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The Man's Inhumanity to Man, Man [Dan Collins]

Male judges who deny men access to their kids, male professors who bypass men for tenure, and certain male presidents who sexually harass women all help fuel anti-male bias.

11 Replies to “The Man's Inhumanity to Man, Man [Dan Collins]”

  1. Synova says:

    I object.

    Certain male presidents who sexually harass women did nothing to fuel anti-male bias because that certain male president got a pass from nearly *everyone*. Suddenly it wasn’t improper for a man of extreme position and power to partake of the benefits befitting his office… ie., the barely adult girls in the steno-pool.

  2. Dan Collins says:

    Yeah, but what has he done for you lately, Synova? ;-P

  3. Ouroboros says:

    Hey, this is OT but this might be the perfect time and place to ask this.. Where else does such a widely assorted group of intelligent people congregate?

    Here’s the question: When one (like a single mother) receives child support from an ex-spouse one can voluntarily disclose that income for purposes of being considered for a loan or other credit.

    If one is obligated to pay a sizeable amount of child each month (like a divorced father) can one then disclose that obligation for purposes of qualifying for low income assistance of any sort?

    I’m asking because I’m looking at modest apartments in Seattle and finding that a lot of nice, semi-affordable apartments here are earmarked for “low-income” people only and my income is considered too high… A sad joke considering that once my income is taxed and child support paid that ‘fat’ income feels minimum wage.. I figure if I could adjust my wages by the amount of the child support I pay out then I could qualify for an apartment I could afford in Seattle..

    Any thoughts on this?

  4. Dan Collins says:

    My thought is that you’ve got a very good claim, but are unlikely to find reciprocity. It’s worth a try arguing, though.

  5. Pablo says:

    It’s a good question, but I suspect Dan is right. Banks are concerned with actual cash flow where social services have more nuanced parameters for determining who is victimy enough to receive assistance.

    That said, I knew a woman who was in public housing where rent was determined on a sliding scale. The child support she was receiving was factored into her income, so naturally she lowballed it significantly.

    I’d give it a shot if I were you, and I’d be interested to hear how you make out.

  6. bergerbilder says:

    Can you voluntarily set up your child-care payments to be garnisheed from your wages? That way you could show your actual income by the amount of your paycheck or deposit notice.

  7. Pablo says:

    Can you voluntarily set up your child-care payments to be garnisheed from your wages? That way you could show your actual income by the amount of your paycheck or deposit notice.

    If you were insane, you could. Anyone who would invite a child collection agency to access their paycheck would need to have their head checked. That said, as soon as there’s an order, the recipient can request such services and the state agencies will happily oblige due to the federal funds they’ll receive under Title IV-D for doing the collection.

    As for proving the payments, and assuming that you’re not already being garnished, one could simply provide the court order showing the amount of the obligation.

  8. J. Peden says:

    Males discriminating against men certainly does fuel my anti-male “bias”. I “despise those men”.

  9. bergerbilder says:

    Pablo, the man said:

    “I figure if I could adjust my wages by the amount of the child support I pay out then I could qualify for an apartment I could afford in Seattle..”

    Wouldn’t this (garnishment) be a way to adjust your wages, rather than just claiming expenses?

  10. Pablo says:

    Wouldn’t this (garnishment) be a way to adjust your wages, rather than just claiming expenses?

    No, it isn’t considered lost income for the payer, nor is it considered income for the payee, though a bank will look at is as cash flow. Alimony would be, child support is not.

  11. Blitz says:

    Pablo, I don’t kow where you are in MA, But SMOC here in Framingham does take child support payments into consideration when a person applies for subsidized housing. I know that’s not “low income” but it may provide a window into Ouroboros’ question.

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