It’s Easter, so if you’d rather bask in the glow of the Risen Lord and enjoy the day with your family than read something that will probably cause you simultaneously to laugh and fulminate, then perhaps it’s best to skip this.
Gleen(s) latch onto an ugly post by “Instapunk,” whom he strongly associates with Instapundit Glenn Reynolds as his “namesake.”  And truly, I have seen Reynolds link to Instapunk, though I cannot remember Reynolds regarding Instapunk–several people, I believe, which is a concept that seems difficult for Gleen(s) to grasp–as a mentor for the past 20 years.  And, of course, it would shock! me to discover that Gleen(s) themselves had ever linked approvingly to a site that hosted something written by someone who later would reveal himself to be a hateful bigot.
On the other hand, I wonder what Gleen(s) make of some of the organizations who have specifically praised Barack Obama, and whose endorsements were, until recently, proudly displayed on Obama’s official website? I only bring it up because a candidate’s ties to religious extremists–especially those who accuse the US of genocide–ought to be examined in detail. Some of them might be race bigots.
I expect both Glenn and The Salon Blogger will respond in good faith.ÂÂ
Related: Phoenix Woman feels vindicated that we’re all going to be disappointed that Eliot Spitzer’s not going to go to jail–at least not for his relations with “Kristen.” I can’t recall anyone who was hoping that he was going to be frogmarched off to prison in an orange jumpsuit, but if you can, please remind me.American Power’s excellent post on Gleen(s) embrace of the idea of guilt by association can be found here. I hope that Gleen(s) will recognize that the assumptions that they feel free to make on the power of a blog link to a contiguous post will make it difficult for them to argue that anyone is “smearing” any candidate they promote.
Tom Maguire, posting at the eponymous Just One Minute blog, notes that although Gleen(s) have altered their original post title, Memeorandum preserves the original. As always when dealing with Gleen(s), certain of us have also preserved screenshots.
UPDATE: Glenn Reynolds’s namesake Instaputz has graced us with his presence in the comments, and all I can say, having visited his site for the first time in a long while, is that his shtick of addressing Reynolds as though he were actually reading it is as lame as Olbermann’s addressing his spittle-flecked bullshit to President Bush as though he were actually watching. In other words, it turns the conceit of the dramatic monologue inside out.
Racist. Good DAY, sir.
oh, haven’t even read it yet, but I notice there are already two(!) updates. yay!
nothing, you Limbaugh/Kristol/Fox News groupie. quit trying to smear people through their associations!
You mean like Retardo? Erm, ‘scuse me. Mr. Montalban, I meant to say.
HTML Mencken, I believe.
OldPunk did that on purpose. He thinks he’s being clever. Bless his heart, really. Blogging is hard, and super-clever reactionary blogging is really really hard. But race really isn’t the deal I don’t think. Black Liberation Theology is just plain old Marxism repackaged for black people. It’s important just to see the thing for what it is, cause there’s lots and lots of white people that hate white people too. That’s why union rank and file are the least reliable Democrats.
Wait. I’ll be right back. I need to go get my hipwaders.
Typical poofter.
I’m just keying off his racial fifth-columny part. He’s right there’s a fifth column that hates America but it’s ideological, not racial. Well, Baracky is working hard to change that, but for now fifth-columny people aren’t defined by their race but more like their goal of diminishing America and what she represents. It doesn’t have anything to do with Hondas. That part was just weird.
Er, the whole of Wall Street, and everyone who’s been railroaded by Spitzer or anyone like Spitzer.
Oh, and anyone who loves to see bullies getting their just desserts.
And fans of Schadenfreude everywhere. (This promises to be their best release EVAH!)
Oh. I remember Spitzer. If it wasn’t a presidential election year he’d still be in office I think. My guess is that Hillary told him she wasn’t having it.
I meant for boinking a whore.
Oh. Whore-boinking isn’t a town in New Jersey is all I know about it.
OldPunk did that on purpose.
As opposed to all of his accidental blog posts? I hope you’re not trying to say that Old Punk was trying to be ironic in his ugly racist post (he really seems to get a kick out of using the N-Word).
But that’s par for your world.
Oh, there’s plenty of legitimized ugliness over in your world, too, Pope Ratzo. Not the least of which is your presumed superiority.
What? I mean he comes right out and says he wants to make a controversial spectacle of himself. He’s blog-trolling, goofball. And Glenn, who a lot invented the technique, took the bait. Glenn then tries to smear Mr. Reynolds, which really sort of ends the game before it starts. He should have kept his powder dry on teh stupid, cause now it’s all just on like your level, which is a lot redundant for Glenn.
Christopher Taylor could explain more better for you how this works than me, Mr. Ratzo. He’s tracked this sort of phenomenon before, but really, after awhile you’ll start to see it’s pretty common. Welcome to the Internet though (even though I don’t think you’re really a Pope – that just seems kind of unlikely and maybe even a little silly) … it’s always nice to see old people embrace new things.
I’m curious if Gleen is of the same immunosupressed variety as Andy Sullivan. You’ll notice in Sully’s case a clear decline of cognitive abilities directly related to AIDS dementia.
I pray that’s not so, Dean.
First, I was shocked. Then, I was amused. After that, I was hysterical with laughter. But I never figured Spitzer would do time, and while I see the possibility based on the financial crimes, I’ve never thought it probable and I still don’t.
What’s happening here is that PhoenixWoman is trying to get those Karl Rove indictment Ya Ya’s off her psyche. That sort of disappointment doesn’t just pass.
It’s awkward cause Andy really does seem to have gone off the rails.
HIV is not AIDS, Dean. And you are not a doctor. Or at least I hope you’re not.
I think maybe he might just could be manic though.
I guess I should have mentioned that Sully, while clearly brain addled, does not have AIDS. He’s just nuts due to his infection with liberalism.
I think the AP might just could be manic though too.
Also, I guess it’s only fair to point out that when you live with, and have an intimate relationship with 4 or 5 or 6 different men, your odds of such affliction increase exponentially. So, Gleen could have teh buttsex dementia, based solely on statistical probability.
The moral? Limit the number of cabana boys to no more than 3. And keep them off the internet so people won’t mock you.
“I guess I should have mentioned that Sully, while clearly brain addled, does not have AIDS.”
Are you a medical doctor? And upon what basis do you state such a diagnosis?
Ugh. Please, let’s not get into this.
I don’t get the eponymous part. Maybe it’s ironymous.
It is. Boschy.
Greenwald’s a twit, but the Oldpunk post is embarrassing and deserves a little outrage as well.
Dan – it’s nice to see that, contra Greenwald, the conversation on the Right has already moved beyond OldPunk’s clumsy racism and into a high-level discussion of which poofters are becoming retarded due to teh AIDs.
Lack of evidence. What do you base your diagnosis on?
I’ll be off to Easter dinner here shortly, Dan. Prime rib, I’m told, and prepared by an agnostic. I’m eating it anyway.
Hah. Aristophanes, that was funny, what you said. Also, Happy Easter!
Is it as important as Old Panther’s clumsy racism, or his claim that HIV/AIDs was inflicted on the black community by the US government, do you suppose, D. Aristophanes?
D. Aristophanes, you might want to look into this newfangled concept called snark. Eventually, we’ll develop the punctuation needed to make it obvious to those of you who can’t discern it organically. In the meantime, I suppose we’ll have to point it out to you on a case by case basis.
I was hoping he’d be frogmarched off to prison in a gorilla suit with a pink tutu.
One commenter brought it up.
In Rightworld, that’s not a “discussion.”
At any rate, if anyone’s interested, here are some of Sadly, No!’s references to dementia. I’m sure that none is insulting.
– I checked in this morning to see what CNN-CCCP was up to today for the first time in quite awhile, both because I could already guess pretty much on the money so why bother, and because watching Wolf Blitzer is something like watching a Ghoul faced zombie deliver the NYT Obits in a humorless monotone that would make a chatty Kathy doll want to OD on St. Josephs aspirin.
– They’ve completely dropped the mask of objectivity and are shamelessly in the tank for the Donkeys, which comes as absolutely zero surprise. The problem is finding ways to try to spin the Dem primary as anything less than the train wreck it is, and deciding which Dem candidate they will shill for.
– They have now moved to producing full up videos depicting the economy as directly equal to 1929 pre-crash conditions. They are in a full court press on badmouthing the economy as a counterpoint to any good news coming out of Iraq. Dem pundits know full well that the electorate has never changed horses in mid-stream with an ongoing war, so on the one hand they continue to dismiss any sort of Iraq gains, and seek to unseat the Reps through bad economy rumor mongering. Nice. I’m going to thoroughly enjoy every minute of their post election miseries if McCain wins.
– Apparently one thing they are really pissed about is that the “Bad Bush” narrative is not rubbing off on McCain as yet, and they can’t understand why. Several talking heads admitted they’re at a loss to explain this bulletproof state McCain seems to be enjoying. We feel their pain.
– On the Iraq front, some Dem leaders are saying that the only reason the Iraq government is finally starting to make a bit of progress, an almost armeggeddon admission for a Leftard to make these days, is because they are afraid if a Dem takes the oval office the money will dry up, not the idea of the pullout of American troops. Apparently the hardliners are not so much worried about slaughtering each other as they are about being able to finance the slaughter. Observers worry that Iran will supply the guns and bullets if we don’t. If any of this is true, rather than Dem day-dreaming, It would seem that Bush was off the mark badly when he said he believed peopl would always opt for peace and stability, and personal freedoms, if given a decent chance. Just possibly the Islamic world knows itself much better than we do.
– Unfortunately for the Dems theres a lot more at stake here than “nation building”, and they know it and refuse to talk about the futre of stability in the middle East. The party faithful would be more than willing to cut and run, and leave a human blood bath in the wake of a fast withdrawal, because they plan on blaming any aftermath on Bush, even as the Clinton camp and their supporters go about covering up and rewriting history so they can have it both ways, redacting Clintons lassitude and risk-aversion that led directly to 9/11. Good work if they can pull it off.
– Lets see. In the ObamaRama/Hillery three ring circus, Brack managed a last minute bank shot from half court by grabbing the endorsement of Bill Richardson, a double blow that robs the Clintons of a Hispanic vote sweep, and took the Wright mess off the radar temporarily. Score one for the Obama camp. Watching the back and forth is truly high entertainment you couldn’t buy at any price.
Spitzer will get whatever the justice system decides. He better hope he doesn’t get treated with a dose of his own medicine… maybe “chickens coming home to roost”.
Chicken is delicious when cooked properly and how nice of the chickens to make themselves easy to catch.
Proverbs, the Psalms, Ecclesiastes, even the book of Job could have been found in the Gideon Bible drawer in his hotel. I saw the Spitzer went to consult with some Cardinal after he got caught with no condom up the back door. Hmmmmmm. Another religious hypocrite (which we all are at some ponts in time)
One of my prayers is that God would be gracious enough to correct me early and often and as tough as he needs to so I never get to the type of place Spitzer found himself. Full permission to kick my ass, pull me up, drag me off. That is why the prophets used imagery like the picture of being destitute and living in the ash heap with God as being better than having it all but without God.
The imagery is about humility.
Humbling oneself before God usually works out better than having people administer it to you…
Spitzer put himself into the mix. Family, friends, associates and the justice system will all judge him now. Tools Spitzer has honed will be turned on him (he who lives by the sword will die by it… another call to humilty and self awareness)
Even if you are not religious, or you are, but not Christian… today is a good day to reflect on humility and the consequences of arrogance and cruelty
Happy Easter
Please diagnose this: http://web.archive.org/web/20010529005723/http://milkyloads.tripod.com/
Hmmm. Well, I had thought to have taken the day off from judginess, you know.
I’m cooking braised lamb shanks with scallions and rosemary, potato fans, and green beans with fried tomato.
Gosh, Dean. Thanks a lot. Now I’m all racist and homophobey and there’s no way I’m gonna get that off of me before I have to go to the multi-ethnic liberal no-were-not-Christian but-wait-til-you-see-the-cutest-dress-we-got-her Easter party thinger. I’ll just have to be really quiet I guess. And probably bring wine.
If Greenwald is picking a fight with Reynolds, then Greenwald is truly outclassed; like a corvette going toe-to-toe with a heavy cruiser. A gallant action, perhaps; but the outcome is not in doubt.
And worse, Douglas Reeman is not writing this tale.
I left my last line out… today is also a day we can realize there is more. We can rise above the messes, battles, disasters we have been through.
Greenwald’s always ankle-biting at Reynolds. I even saw Insty get irritated, once.
– Thats one of the perks of being Catholic feets. They provide the wine, you just have to provide the shame. We Joooosss have to provide our own wine, but we demand payment for the guilt, so it all balances out nicely. Happy Easter. Try to go easy on the Chocolate bunny cupcakes.
Sure thing, Dean. You’re obsessed. Any other questions?
I’m gonna try but I have a feeling I’m doomed. Easter is very a lot about sugar. And Jesus. But there’s gonna be a lot more of the one than the other.
For me, it’s about the beef. Bye, y’all!
Besides the silly and beside-the-point argument as to whether Instapundit’s links to Instapunk are as damning as Obama’s links to Wright, what do you think of that post?
I think instapunk’s post, and the ensuing conversation about it on Salon, especially the “paranoid tribalism” theory, explain a hell of a lot to me. I suspect that instapunk’s post will not be the last to say exactly what he said either. And it is a good (though disturbing) thing. Lay it out there; tell the truth and shame the devil.
Happy Whatever-Holidy-You-Are-Celebrating.
PS. Glenn is rather humorless and dour (like Dave Niewert – who is only funny when making fun of Jonah Goldberg) but he is a good blogger.
Ok, ok. I will go back to my quiet place.
Happy Easter, P! Agnostic prime rib is teh ecumenical I think.
Lisa, for real I think the “paranoid tribalism†thing can be laid squarely at Baracky’s feet. It flows directly I think from his clumsy attempt to mainstream his hatey paranoid anti-American church. What a contrived concept, really, and developing it is just investing energies in an excuse for Baracky’s defeat. That’s bad juju for Team Baracky and also it wastes a lot of time for everyone.
No, he’s not a good blogger, Lisa. He’s a lying, hypocritical douchebag, who twists information and tortures logic, and then places it in the mouths of sockpuppets. He’s a fraud and an ass, and the people in this story who are really paranoid and tribal are people like Reverend Wright or, really, like Gleen(s).
Hate to burst the bubble of evidence-collectors, but a “screen shot” of a web site is not really ironclad. Let me rephrase that, a screen shot of a site is completely worthless. There are plugins for several browsers that let you edit the HTML-code of pages on the fly, meaning you can just change whatever it says on the page and take a screen shot.
I propose other methods of keeping and maintaining evidence be discussed…
Oh. And Happy Easter cause He died for you and all, even if you aren’t feeling it. Have a cupcake.
Seixon has a point though I think the essentially transitory nature of these sorts of disputes really a lot mitigates the problem, but a cool idea would be for a site with a known methodology that lets you capture a page you’re looking at and cache it there. A tinyurl type thing but what caches. That would be very helpful.
Seixon–good to see you. What do you propose?
– My beautiful wife, being of Irish lineage, is Catholic, so each year I get the pleasure of preparing the Easter offering basket. Kulitch bread, Pot cheese, Russian sausage, wine dyed eggs, ect. We go to the tiny Orthidox church, and stand through a 5 hour mass. Stand because the usual orthidox church is so small theres simply no room for pews, other than a few folding chairs for the Babuska;s over 90 years of age.
– Its a little like a solumn sort of torture. If you’re tall, you exist in a layer of Incense, thick enough to coat a good sized house. If you’re short, which many Russian elderly immigrents are, you exist in a layer of beer and garlic that stems from the lentel fasts. either way you are definately going to live the experience.
– At about 11pm the congregation exits the church with candles and marches around the building to exorsize the spirits. Its a sort of cleansing thing, and denotes “Cristo et westa wes adsumae.”, “Christ has indeed risen”. Then we go back in and stand for 5 hours, or until you faint, whichever comes first. then back home where every shred of the blessed food must be consumed. I love it, the whole process, plus the icecream cone steeples are pretty lit up at night. Russian sausage, homemade, yum.
That was really the most beautiful Eastery thing I’ve read this weekend.
I thought the Orthodox celebrated Easter on a different Sunday. Shows what I know.
It’s pulled pork for this gang, but the prime rib sounds good, too.
– #61. Well to be specific, it can fall on a different Sunday each year. Sometimes it coincides with the non-Orthodox day. So you are correct.
– Overall it all works well for us, My being Russian I can act as an interpreter, and I do enjoy the religious ceremonies, plus I can honor My wifes beliefs, but maintain a few of My own.
I always thought that instapunk or instaputz were BDS infected asshats. To find that Gleen and the Kabana Boyz woke up in Brazil, and decided to lie their collective asses off is about as surprising as Lisa being painfully and consistently wrong, or IJS being an ass. It is a given.
Reynolds demolishes the gleenz in his own deadpan way in his updates, which will blissfully fly right over the heads of the loonwaffles.
Instapunk and Instaputz are very different creatures. At least, politically.
For the record, #62, if I didn’t have my family to appease, I’d probably go Orthodox. We still get the liturgy in Anglicanism, but we have to put up with the idiotic gurglings of Rowan Williams. I’m much more a fan of how the Orthodox Church handles things, kook-bishop-wise.
63 – Wrong about what? And what was Glenn lying about when he posted the Instapunk’s thoughts on race? Were those not Instapunk’s words? Seriously, if that is a hoax, then I stand corrected.
You mean Old Punk, Lisa? Yes. But that’s not the post to which Glenn Reynolds linked. By resorting to the rhetorical device of referencing all of them as Instapunk, and by referring to Instapunk as one of Reynolds’ fave bloggers, Greenwald attempted knowingly, deliberately to mislead his readership. And it is typical.
It comes back to this point about trying to make one’s point through obfuscation, misinformation, omission, or outright lies.
Okay but you still didn’t answer my question: What do you think of the actual post? (This is why I am not a blogger, I am too impatient with timewasting exercises that have to be attached to each and every issue before people actually get down to discussing the meat of the issue).
(Old Punk’s post, before you get all bent out of shape about Glenn/Glenn’s ongoing girl-fight).
I told you what I think. Specifically, that if you’re looking for someone paranoid and tribal in this story, you need look no further than Reverend Wright or his successor.
well, except that’s a different issue isn’t it? and mostly it’s about gleens tarring right wingers with one post while excoriating them of doing the same to Obama.
– The nice thing about the Gleen(s) is you can always tell they are lying. Their socks move. Plus hes never learned how to tune that banjo.
But that is not what I asked. I asked for thoughts on the post in question: The post on Instapunk that was quoted. I don’t care about the blogger bitch fights. They are so boring.
But I find the post by OldPunk fascinating. Why are we so afraid to talk about the content of THAT POST.
Dan – Noted re insta-punk/putz. Apparently the rampant BDS of one turned me off of both.
Lisa – Gleenwald is a mendoucheous liar. No parsing required.
how bout you start your own post on it?
I will post it (this in no way impugns or links anyone on this blog to the words I am about to copy and paste):
On the other hand, I am sick to death of black people as a group. The truth. That is part of the conversation Obama is asking for, isn’t it? I live in an eastern state almost exactly on the fabled Mason-Dixon line. Every day I see young black males wearing tee shirts down to their knees — and jeans belted just above their knees. I’m an old guy. I want to smack them. All of them. They are egregious stereotypes. It’s impossible not to think the unthinkable N-Word when they roll up beside you at a stoplight in their trashed old Hondas with 19-inch spinner wheels and rap recordings that shake the foundations of the buildings. . . .
Here’s the dirty secret all of us know and no one will admit to. There ARE niggers. Black people know it. White people know it. And only black people are allowed to notice and pronounce the truth of it. Which would be fine. Except that black people are not a community but a political party. They can squabble with each other in caucus but they absolutely refuse to speak the truth in public. And this is the single biggest obstacle to healing the racial divide in this country.
I’m not proposing the generalized use of the term, just trying to be clear for once, in the wake of Obama’s call for us to have a dialogue about race. However much they may scream and protest, black people will know what I mean when I demand they concede that the following people are niggers:
– Jeremiah Wright
– O.J. Simpson
– Marion Barry
– Alan Iverson
– William Jefferson
– Louis Farrakhan
– Mike Tyson . . .
You see, you’ve just given life to the suspicion that black people in America are, and have long been, a fifth column — unanimously hating the very country that has afforded the highest standard of living ever achieved by black people in human history. We’re teetering at the edge of believing that you’re a secret society, a massive collection of sleeper cells just waiting for your chance to do serious harm to the rest of us. You’ve made it possible for us to believe that. Because you’re never outraged by what the worst black people do. Because you continue to make excuses for what should be inexcusable to everyone.
Thoughts?
Nobody is afraid of anything, Lisa. This post is about the lying liars and the mendouceous asshats that enable all of the gleendwaldian sockpuppets to do so. Trying to ingratiate yourslef with their ilk should not be a goal of a sentient being.
*yawn*
I believe that I stated it was ugly. It’s ugly, repulsive, and revolting, and I reject it, even as I reject Obama’s pastors’ bullshit.
Lisa – Whoever wrote that is an ass.
That post says a lot about OldPunk mostly. And I still don’t understand the deal with the Hondas.
I dunno Dan, I more think of it like happyfeet and the AP thing yesterday about the little girl. it strikes me as trying too hard to be manipulative and so I just don’t really care what it says.
What is it supposed to have to do with Reynolds?
Thanks for your thoughts, Mags.
how is it that different from your
Faggotthing, Collins? ;D or did I mis-skim it?Now, compare what that ass said to the mendoucheity of Rev. Wright and Rev. Otis. Compare and contrast the responses. Compare and contrast the relative importance of what Racists Wright and Otis preach, right, and believe in to some obscure individual. If this is the discussion on race you want to have, it seems like you have not moved beyond the practice of finding some obscure, non-mainstream individual with horrible views, and paiting every one of yiur ideological opponents with an incredibly broad brush. It is dishonest, disingenuous, and predictable.
I’m going to get into trouble today aren’t I? RTO’s gone all of ten minutes and I’m cranky already. still I don’t see what’s to get all worked up about someone trying so hard to be controversial.
– #77 – I for one, am not the least bit surprised the Black American community is going through growing pains. I see them as a group having to finally face the spectical of making the jard jump from protectionism to true full up self-supporting responsible citizenship, and though I can’t know the “black experience” I can certainly appriciate how difficult such a transition would be. As far as yoiur other points I will leave it to you to judge you own. I’m neither interested or curious about such things, believing as I do that stereotyping is generally not a positive approach to growth.
-What I will say is if this growth process means the Black community will take that step, rejecting the “help for the poor dears” as proffered all these years by a party whos only really interest is garnering votes, I will apllaud that event loud and clear.
– You see I believe that the vast majority of racism in this country, in this day and age, is a manufactured need of a certain group, with non-altruistic motives and goals. I simply do not believe in the NH-word, other than a political device.
– Bill Cosby is one of My heros.
LMAO Happy. Yeah I didn’t get that part either – I thought that was a different racial stereotype involving Asians, Hondas, spoilers, and lightning bolts painted onto your driver and passenger doors (Happy you never fail to crack me up).
I was just interested in a reaction to the OldPunk’s actual post. I found it interesting because it highlights a generational shift in perception. I notice that Rev. Wright and this blogger share a fatalistic “we will always hate each other because the other side is fundamentally corrupt and morally bankrupt” point of view. And they are a bit “up in age”. I think while most of us may argue vehemently about the whole thing, we don’t see each other as fundamentally morally bankrupt or “hopeless”. We see, better than many people who lived through nastier times, that we all want and work for the same things: Good relationships with our loved ones and our neighbors, a good education, satisfying and lucrative work to take care of our families, and a better future for our kids. Strangely enough, OldPunk made me feel deeply optimistic.
Actually, Sexion has no point at all. The notion that anyone around here would actually bother to doctor the HTML code of a web screen shot just to make Rump Ranger Gleenwald look bad (given that the dweeb needs no help at all in making himself look like a complete idiot) is several orders of magnitude beyond ludicrous.
And as an aside, after having read the outtake from the post by this “OldPunk” person, I must say he hits the nail on the head. That is, he (OldPunk) was speaking the truth, however unsavory it may be. That is reality, the world as it is. Deal with it.
(And before anyone jumps up and starts screaming RACIST, RACIST, let me say that this has nothing to do with race. Race is irrelevent. It’s about CULTURE. Or more specifically, the problems endemic within black American culture as it exists today. A nontrivial difference to say the least.)
On the other hand, I am sick to death of black people as a group. The truth. That is part of the conversation Obama is asking for, isn’t it? I live in an eastern state almost exactly on the fabled Mason-Dixon line. Every day I see young black males wearing tee shirts down to their knees  and jeans belted just above their knees. I’m an old guy. I want to smack them. All of them. They are egregious stereotypes. It’s impossible not to think the unthinkable N-Word when they roll up beside you at a stoplight in their trashed old Hondas with 19-inch spinner wheels and rap recordings that shake the foundations of the buildings. . . .
Here’s the dirty secret all of us know and no one will admit to. There ARE niggers.
Stay classy, wingnuts. Why would Reynolds consistently promote a blog that featured this kind of racist crap?
I don’t know how else to answer you, Lisa. There’s something in research science called fudging. You create data to support a position that you’ve already arrived at without doing your homework. It’s enough to get you cashiered from the sciences. It’s possible that Mendel resorted to fudging, massaging his data. It’s very rare that someone does that and ends up being right about something.
Greenwald’s been caught outright lying and otherwise “massaging” his data to suit his ends on numerous occasions. If he wishes to make a case for something he believes in, let him do so. But nobody’s under any obligation to respect him or to pay attention to what he says unless and until he reforms himself. And since his audience doesn’t give a crap, he has no incentive to reform.
Blue Texan–go fuck yourself. You don’t seem to care that this is a ridiculous reversal of the Black Liberation Theology paranoia perspective that Reverend Wright preached. THAT you’ve tried to give cover to, ass. THIS we reject wholeheartedly.
You see this shit? Why are you trying to make Obama culpable for overtly supporting the crap of figures like the Rev. Wright? Why would you try and tar him for his involvement with Rezko, you fascist?
But you are all tarred for making excuses for Reynold’s linking to a site where someone said something hateful, you haters!!!!!! Even if you’ve stated it’s ugly and vile!!!!!
Hope you’ll remember that next time you link to HuffPo, jackass.
Cavebear, the majority of black people are not “rolling on 20s”. Nor are we wearing our pants hanging off of our asses. We are (gasp) wearing the same clothes and driving the same vehicles as you.
Hip hop culture is what it is. It does not represent BLACK culture anymore than folks who do the boot-scoot-boogie at the country-western bar on Friday night represent WHITE culture.
Ps. I know how to do the boot-scoot-boogie, thankyouverymuch.
– Its always so telling the way the moonies panic and just have to crash the party whenever they get skeered the adults are actually discussing things in the open.
Actually, “ricers” (young males who like to drive dolled-up and occasionally ridiculously overpowered Japanese sub-compact cars, with the big wings, oversize wheels/spinners/, wacky pain jobs, assorted neon lights, stickers, etc) come in ever race, creed, color and hat size.
Yes. It’s a lot contrived and I don’t want to do the monkeydance for OldPunk cause I don’t even know him and also he’s uncomfortably bigoty. Which I just said on the wrong thread.
Like I said, I don’t care about the pissy-slappy baby fight between the Glenns. I generally ignore that silliness. It can go back and forth endlessly like a dog chasing its tail. “You! Why you! I oughtta! You liar! No YOU liar!!” The thing that caught my attention was what the old guy posted.
Oh. 99 was at maggie’s 88. I seemed to have lost time. Checking for signs of probing.
Lisa, I’m sorry, but it bothers me when people lie to me, especially when they seem to assume that I’m stupid.
– Us old guys have a way of wanting to cut through the shit and get to the beef. Where we’re at, life is too short, and who wants to expend all that wasted energy anyway. Besides, the sooner you out everyones prejudices, and air them pro and con, right or wrong, the sooner you can get back to March madness, and the beer and doritos.
Blue Texan–go fuck yourself. You don’t seem to care that this is a ridiculous reversal of the Black Liberation Theology paranoia perspective that Reverend Wright preached. THAT you’ve tried to give cover to, ass. THIS we reject wholeheartedly.
That would be known as a hissy fit. And it doesn’t change the fact that Reynolds has linked to ugly racist BS like this before. Someone who thinks Hurricane Katrina should be played for laughs, refers to gun ownership as “civil rights”, links obsessively to every “liberal media won’t cover random white victim crime story” he can find (his 100,000 posts on the Duke lacrosse story is rather revealing), and poses in a shirt with a lot of guns on it, in pan-African colors, that says, “Celebrate Diversity” doesn’t have a lot of wiggle room as it is.
But look over there! It’s Wright! Obama hates whitey!!!!
Wait, moron. To what did Reynolds link?
By the way, gun ownership is a civil right.
And you know what’s really revealing? The way that all the people who rushed to Nifong’s side apologized.
Except for the non-PC use of the n-word, how exactly are Instapunk’s remarks incorrect? I say he hits pretty close to the truth and they is why it riled people up.
You want to excuse Gleen(s)’s deceit? Have at it.
I have to go get my Easter on but when I get back I want to check out this … Fox News Anchors Upset Over ‘Obama Bashing’… What’s that all about I wonder.
Lisa: what do you think of that post?
It’s repulsive, and I’d never attend a church where someone like “OldPunk” was the minister.
How’s that?
Dean… the whole Honda thing has been thoroughly debunked. I think a lot of OldPunk’s knitting unravels when you tug on that.
You want to make a case that Glenn Reynolds is a bad man? Go ahead. Create an entire dossier of his evil ramblings. But don’t try to pull this peruke over our eyes, man. Get thee hence.
–“The way that all the people who rushed to Nifong’s side apologized.”
– Except of course, for the Lefty Duke Profs, who were really only using the whole mess as a opportunity to espouse Marxist hate America first rhetoric.
So, Gleen is saying that Glenn believes that “all people who drive Hondas are racists?” Huh?
um, I don’t know that watching it will help.
I am not sure what the fuss is all about. McCain is going to be President, regardless of a black man or white woman will be running against him. That same black man and that same White woman has seen fit to make it so.
Good God! Reynolds wore a t-shirt that offended someone’s blessed sensifuckingbilities!
My son walks to school past teachers’ cars that have “Fuck Bush” bumperstickers on them. I just think they’re dolts, not eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil.
Ohhhhhhh Happy, that was hysterical. Chris Wallace certainly did NOT get a chocolate bunny from Steve Doocy today. Tee hee.
I got even better after the Chris Wallace scolding. It is kind of sad when the SPORTS guy has to storm out because you are being too thick for him.
Lisa, I never said anything about “rolling on 20s” (had to think about that a minute), and I’ve no idea what the “boot-scoot-boogie” is.
But the sad fact is that black American culture has some significant problems, some of which this “OldPunk” guy addressed, however tackily he did so. And the verbal actions of idiots like Wright and now his successor are doing NOTHING to address these problems.
Frankly Lisa, I don’t give a good goddamn about “the Black Experience”, or of the other self-serving horseshit I see shoveled with nauseating regularity to explain away the various self-made problems in the black community. Oh yes, let’s just blame “whitey”, the “government”, the “JOOOOOS”, the cops, or whatever other convenient boogey man comes to hand.
Don’t want to get HIV (or any of the other STDs out there)? Don’t be fucking every swinging-you-name-it that comes within 20 feet of you, at least not without a condom.
Want a decent job? Get a fucking education. 2+2 still equals 4, again, ragardless of race, creed, color or hat size. It’s not “acting white” if you bloody LEARN!
My teenaged stepdaughter came home a few weeks ago with a classmate of hers, another 17 year old. I had a long conversation with this kid, and I must say that she gave me a serious dose of hope for the future. She was (for a 17 year old, to be sure) without a doubt one of the most brilliant people I’ve met in my 54 years (and believe me, honey, I’ve met more than my share of smart people in my time).
That kid made a PERFECT score on her SAT, and now is trying to decide whether to go to Harvard, MIT or CalTech, and whether or not she’s going to be an engineer or a doctor. I told her I hope she is in command of the first manned mission to Mars, and while she thought that was funny, I guaran-damn-tee you if she wanted that slot, she could get it. And she is as black as you ever thought of being.
But then, she’s not worried about whitey, the Joooos, the e-vil Bush/Cheney/Halliburton cabal, or any other contrived irrelevancy out there. If more kids of the black persuasion were like her, I would not be nearly as worried about their collective futures.
Is bluetexan that fuckin’ instaputz? If memory serves, he is trying to make his liberal chops with the big boys by going around to “winger” sites, telling lies, calling names, and otherwise making an ass of himself. Racists.
okay, I wasn’t sure SPORTS guy was serious. did he not ever come back? anyhoo, they do tend to spend too much time on crap.
#103: Here here. I like getting to the point and then getting over said point as fast as possible. Sometimes, you have to have a really uncomfortable discussion where you have to be brave enough not to finger-point or use lame distraction maneuvers. But it gets you where you need to be way faster than the avoidance tactics.
Now I am going to go next door to partake in beer and Doritos. Mmmmmm, tasty.
Sounds like you had an wonderful encounter with a younger version of Michelle Obama, that American-hating nigger-wife of Barack.
OldPunk’s stealing from Chris Rock now?
Sounds like you had an wonderful encounter with a younger version of Michelle Obama, that American-hating nigger-wife of Barack.
Yeah, these things are always so revealing. It just takes the smallest push, and bingo — you get to see clearly what’s beneath the surface.
Stay classy, wingnuts.
Hip hop culture is what it is. It does not represent BLACK culture anymore than folks who do the boot-scoot-boogie at the country-western bar on Friday night represent WHITE culture.
I agree with that completely, but the problem is to many on the left want to deny that distinction and insist that it is racist to denigrate the culture, that the culture is inseparable from the race. I work all over north Georgia, and in my hometown you will see the stereotypes he talks about, along with an awful lot of non-stereotypical blacks. If you travel to some of the smaller towns, you are just as likely to see a white boy dressed the way he described in the pimped out hoopty. Or some country kid in a jacked up 4×4 with a filling rattling Toby Keith blasting out of the subwoofer. When I hear someone blathering ignorant stereotypes like that I figure they probably don’t get out much, and mostly know about black folk from the TV. The ones I work and drink with are much more complex.
Yeah, these things are always so revealing. It just takes the smallest push, and bingo  you get to see clearly what’s beneath the surface.
Stay classy, wingnuts.
Fuck off, moron. 125 comments and you pick the over the top sarcasm to paint us all. You are the kind of indefensible, dishonest little pinhead that keeps this shit stirred up.
Cave: Most black American kids are like her. My first instinct is to be insulted at your assumption that most of Americans who happen to be black are more promiscuous, lazy, uneducated, or unemployed than any other American. But I realize there is social condition that makes you think that. Your daughters friend is not some bizarre “exception”. My sister, my brother and I were all Phi Beta Kappa. We were not exceptions. My brother went to university in the 70s and managed to consistently make the Dean’s list while maintaining an enormous Afro (complete with pick that was shaped like a black fist). People can have pet issues and be part of movements that include being pissed off about various issues and still achieve academic and personal excellence. BTW, he grew out of all of that and got a Master’s in engineering. He is more Steve Erkel than H. Rap Brown now.
We work hard, get really good grades, and dress very nicely, most of the time (remember Bill O’Reilly’s shock when he visited a restaurant full of well behaved Americans who happened to be black?).
There is a problem with the underclass of America, black and white. There is a combination of hopelessness and entitlement that befuddles even the most earnest sociologist. But it is certainly not confined to black folks. NOW I am going next door.
Within mine canon there’s more than a touch of tasteless, satire-to-the-extreme nuanced art-deco. Cow-molesting hicks rarely see through the myriad of my art’s intractability because, of course, there’s no black pepper spackle gravy on my chicken fried swaller bone.
Amen, thor.
I didn’t read all of OldPunk’s post, but I find it rather ridiculous that Greenwald chose to pick on a blogger to highlight an example of the Right’s “‘guilt of association’ attacks” by seeing it “applied mutually, fairly and equally.” For Chrissakes, it’s not like Reynolds is running for president.
Dan, would you be so kind as to add the entire bracket-busting University of Pittsburgh basketball team to the short list of black men you plan on lynching this Easter Sunday.
I see Tiger can find no birdie-fu at Doral here in South Florida. And that large white fellow named Tyler is eating Arkansas alive in the paint. Random coincidences, I think not.
You really need to work on coloring inside the lines, thor. Lefties don’t mind much if you get all diversified with the colors, but you must stay within the fucking lines.
– “Stay classy, wingnuts.”
– If you’re feeling “Left” out and you’re that jealous of class, why not get some yourself. Who knows, you might like thinking for yourself.
– I watched the Breitbart vid and was struck by the temporizing going on. We shouldn’t take people to task that display posts that pimp Tny snows demise in a rabidly hateful way, because you know, its just impossible to monitor all of the posts put up there, especially the ones that make advertisers smile from the jump in the hit counter.
– Right.
– And O’Reilly could put his time to better use discussing Global warming.
– Right.
– And Arriaana HuffPos response to the worst of the hate posts that are being cited, posts that have remained up for Months?
–“[the] same sort of thing, the same sort of hate, that O’Reilly spews everyday on his TV show”.
– Serious question: Does her and her handlers have any idea how childish that sounds?
It must be ingrained in bluetexan’s DNA to show his ass every single time he drops by here.
That is the first time GG screwed up so bad.
Oh and big privet to BB Hunter, our easter is on April 26 this year.
And here is some for you and other guys:
If you are Russian
darns i missed wishin feets happy easter!
so i will wish the rest of u.
may your hearts be melted for god/allah/hashem and for your fellow man.
it has occurred to me that feets goes a long way towards makin up for jeffies continued abscence..for me at least.
frontpage promotion perhaps?
anyways, feets, always be.
I agree completely!
Someone who thinks Hurricane Katrina should be played for laughs, refers to gun ownership as “civil rightsâ€Â, links obsessively to every “liberal media won’t cover random white victim crime story†he can find (his 100,000 posts on the Duke lacrosse story is rather revealing), and poses in a shirt with a lot of guns on it, in pan-African colors, that says, “Celebrate Diversity†doesn’t have a lot of wiggle room as it is.
I see two possibilities, here:
(1) Glenn Reynolds is a closet racist; or
(2) Blue Texan is a self-parody of a race-obsessed leftist retard who’s desperately trying to fling crap at a blogger whose jockstap he’s not fit to sniff.
Votes?
DAMN YOU WORDPRESS!!!! I CHANGED MY NAME!!! that was supposed to be posted by Wilson McKitty. just FTR.
Chris Rock uses lucifer to posess you and quit your job so he can have one.
Benders are best handled by bending brain stems(unless you kill), it’s female then.
GG used to be CBC. She was really an undercover secret CSIS agent who married a French separatist so she could study them(like Plame and Wilson) and that’s how CSIS gets and keeps the jobs, in Quebec, French speakers. She has at least one soldier commit suicide before she shows up in Afghanistan cause Obama’s preacher is mad or is that Oprah and her kids. Ya, it’s that church!!!!
Huffpo used to feed on balls, so everyone is confused about Pelosi and the earthquake in China when she endorsed Tibet as the DEM LEADER.
Hash’em. Ya, then they’re all relaxed and won’t pain or anything.
Punks are just the guys who trashed their clothes cause society made ’em hear voices and see things. Richardson is a scumbag, but so is Carville.
Honda gets millions from the government.
Intellectual honesty is sometimes in short supply. While “OldPunk” may have been less than polite in his comments, where is the racism?
Substitute the term lowlife for nigger and is anything he pointed out beyond the pale?
The folks at Instapunk have taken “ownership” of the term punk, we all know what it used to mean, right? So it is just a bit amusing to find an essay railing in part against young black punks.
The word nigger is part of our common popular vocabulary. I have great sympathy for the blacks who are genuinely offended, despite thier efforts to eradicate a term that they find hateful, society is bombarded with the word. But not from white racists but black musicians.
But the idea that only blacks can “own” a term and use it constantly without it gaining currency in the population as whole is a rather naive and utopian viewpoint.
But back to the post in question, where is the racism? Hostile perhaps, offensive perhaps, cynical yes, but racist, I don’t see it. Certainly nothing like the rantings of a “respected” black leader preaching to the choir.
How many of the liberals posting here would be comfortable in a parallel situation? Politically correct means we have to pretend something is true when we know it is not.
Cave Bear put it best stating that this is a cultural rather than a racial thing. I challenge those of you offended by that post to point out the actual racist things in it.
On the Left, we usually see someone either being intentionally obtuse, or aggressively ignorant. With the likes of instaputz, IJS, timmah, caric, glennwald, ygelsias, neiwart, and the like, we are now seeing a fusion of obtusity and ignorance, that is simply breathtaking.
So…I’m going to take a wild guess at what Mona blogged about today.
Blue Texan, you were asked a question. You should see fit to answer it if you mean to continue taking part here.
That you don’t, suggests you are being mendoucheous.
LMAO @ mendoucheous. Oh douché,douché my dear.
I agree with Lisa.
I but stand upon the shoulders of giants.
MvGehee – I like that one of my ATF words is catching on amongst those wity functioning grey matter.
“I but stand upon the shoulders of giants.”
What happens if they sneeze?
This must be some kind of code.
AAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhh-CHooooooooo!
…may your hearts be melted for god/allah/hashem and for your fellow man.
Not a chance, I don’t believe in the supernatural.
Pure, PC-less poetry.
Get Off My Lawn, Negroes
N-word controversies are so 2005, don’t you think? In the end we’re all human–meaning, in need of salvation. (Dedicated to the memory of Robert Smith)
This baldilocks person, I like. I like a lot. Great site.
:::curtsies:::
I went and read Gren Gleenwald’s posts and his multiple updates, and my IQ dropped 20 points. If there is a more mendoucheous liar on these here inntertubes, I have not yet run across them.
sashal, link in #137 is teh awesome, thanks. I am not Russian, but having been there a couple of times; some of those things really ring true. Moi sin y ya lyubim (nam nravitsa?) Cheburashka. Russians tended to be very pleased that I had learned even as little of their language as I did. Panamayu po-russkiy nimnova. Gavaryu ochen plokha.
ya nizh nayu ya lub lu pi piva
ya tozhe
Mmmmmm, beer.
You know it’s a hard drinking country when you have two words for “to drink”, and the one that means “to drink alcohol” doesn’t contemplate beer or wine as being in that category.
Happy Easter nishi. I guess yours was probably less arduous maybe, but also there was cake. I’m beat. Knackered, really. Great word.
Blue Texan blogs at Jane “Blackface” Hamsher’s blog and he is trying to denounce connections to racism?
Hilarious.
Lisa, you remind me of the way Mona used to be.
– Privat Droog sashal – dosvidonia
B Moes, cant i believe, and also unnerstand the mechanisms of belief?
Several years ago I had a brief conversation with a Russian cosmonaut on the Mir space station (this was via radio, as I’m an amateur radio operator, and I was lucky enough to catch him when he first came up on 2 meters). As I signed off, I closed out with “do svidanya, y’all”, which is how we say that here in Texas…:) He got a good laugh from that…
daspedanya?
i allus loved that krasivoya meant both beautiful and red po russki.
B Moes, cant i believe, and also unnerstand the mechanisms of belief?
I was refering to myself. You, like everyone else, are free to believe as you wish. Sorry about all the irony meters out there this little exchange destroyed.
BMoe – I quit with the irony meters a long time ago. It was getting to be too damn expensive.
That gets my vote. I mean, fer crissake, Reynolds is supposedly a racist? Doesn’t Blue Texan bother to think about Reynold’s point about gun control and Reconstruction? Or is there some kind of mind-numbed reflex on the left that maintains “person X disagrees with me on one point, therefore that person is bad, therefore that person is a racist”?
More like a Boston Whaler whose sole armament consists of a one-armed, myopic narcoleptic armed with a slingshot.
Reynolds linked to Instapunk a couple of dozen times, ever. Reynolds has linked to PW several times more frequently than that, and Jeff can hardly lay claim to one of Reynolds’ favorites. I haven’t read Instapunk’s piece yet, but Gleens have practically insured that it’ll get read by everyone.
Which, I’ll report back in later to say whether that’s a good thing, IMO.
Well, I wouldn’t have said it that way, but I think there’s way too much truth there to just toss it out.
Case in point. Is NAACP saying that wearing your pants down around your knees is, in fact, a black thing?
Me, I much prefer the barrio pants-up-near-the-armpits style, just because I hate to be looking at someone’s boxers.
….did Blue Texan just try that ridiculous claim that the “Celebrate Diversity” t-shirt (with a diversity of handgun models) is racist?
Wasn’t that claim made a couple years ago, by people who tended to project a bit much? Wonder if Blue Texan’s one of those people…
I’ve never seen Blue Texan say much worth responding to. It’s almost as if that’s some sort of physical constant. Blue Texan is more of a pot-stirrer than anything else.
Stay constant, Blue Texan!
If I stay on, I win a belt buckle the size of Indianapolis.
Meanwhile, Instapundit has linked to Greenwald just about as many times as he’s linked to Instapunk. Which means Reynolds agrees with everything Greenwald says, evidently, about Reynolds linking to bad arguments.
Please Slart. They are BLOGGERS. Insecure little boys(who, incidentally are very alike in temperament and background) sitting at their computers frothing over stupid shit, like two clowns. Neither of them could actually peel themselves from their desk chairs, where their asses are glued by a combination of cheetocrumbs and old sweat to have a “war”.
War indeed. Ha.
Woops….I thought my first post went byebye. So I had to try to remember it and repost. Oh well.
McGehee – Indy is not really a belt buckle kind of town. More of a steak and potatoes kind of place.
Lisa: “My first instinct is to be insulted at your assumption that most of Americans who happen to be black are more promiscuous, lazy, uneducated, or unemployed than any other American.”
Are black Americans more promiscuous than other Americans?
Are black Americans more unemployed than other Americans?
etc..
I really don’t know the answers to those questions.
If yes, then I don’t think you should feel insulted. If no, then I think you should feel insulted.
Ah, forget it. This subject is a minefield. Talking about it mostly brings more problems than not talking about it.
White people are plenty promiscuous I think. Enough to where I think if they knew it was a contest they’d probably give about anyone a run for their money.
I was about to note that Bill Clinton has a rep for being promiscuous, until I remembered it was a black woman who named him the “first black president.”
i like to use wooden desk chairs in comparison with those plastic ones~,~
our desk chair is made up of high quality pine wood, i love this desk chair~,,