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Having Ruminated [Dan Collins]

Spitz swallows the inevitable.

UPDATE: Celebrate Spitzmas with Whine Spitzers

UPDATEx2: Transporting mynahs over sedate lions for immortal porpoises, or . . . you da man act

UPDATEx3: Tragic fall of a scumbag (Willy Lomax’s evil twin with a trust fund)

85 Replies to “Having Ruminated [Dan Collins]”

  1. Carin says:

    Memo to Kwame Kilpatrick …

  2. daleyrocks says:

    A Big Gulp, so to speak.

  3. mojo says:

    Chew on that.

  4. thor says:

    Irony served cold and sprinkled with bitter revenge.

  5. Semanticleo says:

    OK.

    Now about that war in Iraq……………..

  6. Seamantickleo says:

    Hey look over there! Unicorns!

  7. Victor. says:

    Spitzer should take consolation in knowing that the fucking he is about to receive is on the house!

  8. Mikey NTH says:

    How can you direct us to the Washington Monthly when there are people starving in Zimbabwe, Cleo? have you no heart, no shame?

  9. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    Hey Cleo do you find it funny no news mentions that Spitzer is a Democrat or do you just think happy thoughts of Iraq being a failure when you watch them?

  10. Education Guy says:

    Cleo doesn’t think LFFLR, she emotes, or at best responds reflexively to external stimuli. Like for instance in this case when someone she considers part of her “group” has been caught in a scandal, her programming tells her to try to change the subject or to pull out “the everyone does it” card.

  11. Carin says:

    Well, to bring in Cleo’s article, I find the dismissal of news she doesn’t care for torturous. Kwame’s trying the same thing in Detroit. We need to stop harassing him because he’s got a job to do!

  12. MayBee says:

    cleo is a guy. cleo is a guy.
    I, as a woman, feel it is very important for you all to get that right.

  13. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    So EG when Spitzer resigns will Cleo be thinking happy Peter Pan thoughts about Bush being impeached or weill he be thinking about Karl Rove’s insidiously evil plan to bring Spitzer down?

  14. Rob Crawford says:

    The proper short form of “Semanticleo” is “seman”. It helps you to remember the claimed gender of the idiot.

  15. Semanticleo says:

    If you English majors break it down, it’s Semantic (pause) leo.

    I prefer Leo, but call me what you will. Makes no nevermind to me.

  16. Rob Crawford says:

    So EG when Spitzer resigns will Cleo be thinking happy Peter Pan thoughts about Bush being impeached or weill he be thinking about Karl Rove’s insidiously evil plan to bring Spitzer down?

    The left will probably spend the time up until the conventions searching for a way to hang Spitzer’s crime on Republicans. That means either uncovering dirty Republicans (good!), or trying to convince everyone the entire investigation was a Republican dirty trick.

    Just had a thought — wasn’t there a bounty a while ago for dirt, particularly sex-related dirt, on politicians? I wonder if this story was given to Flynt and he just sat on it, or was that bounty specifically limited to those serving in the federal government?

  17. Semanticleo says:

    “Like for instance in this case when someone she considers part of her “group” has been caught in a scandal, her programming tells her to try to change the subject”

    That’s part of what makes me different from y’all.

    I don’t care what political stripe an asshole wears. Get rid of ’em.

  18. Rob Crawford says:

    Seman, if you want a space in the name, put a space in the name.

  19. Semanticleo says:

    “That means either uncovering dirty Republicans (good!), or trying to convince everyone the entire investigation was a Republican dirty trick.”

    Well now, there’s no precedent for that!

    Or is your conscience operating without your conscious knowledge?

  20. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    He is on TV right now with his wife. He just resigned Semanticleo you can now you can say it is over time to move on and post another link to an “Iraq is a failure” article.

  21. Rob Crawford says:

    I don’t care what political stripe an asshole wears. Get rid of ‘em.

    So why are you trying to change the subject in a thread about Spitzer? Why did you demand we all point to our denunciations of Larry Craig?

    Have you ever worked to remove Ted Kennedy from office? Or Barney Frank?

  22. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    Seriously Semanticleo do you find it odd none of the news on TV or in print seems to find time to put a little D next to his name or even mention he is a Democrat?

  23. ThomasD says:

    When do we get to see Spitzer do the frogmarch?

  24. daleyrocks says:

    Arrogant bastard didn’t sound or look very contrite.

    I think his wife was there staring at him thinking “suck on it asshole, you deserve this.”

  25. ThomasD says:

    Actually, I thought his wife was attempting to stare down the press. From the progressive mindset aren’t they the ones who let her down?

  26. Semanticleo says:

    “Seriously Semanticleo do you find it odd none of the news on TV or in print seems to find time to put a little D next to his name or even mention he is a Democrat?”

    Knowing the Press the way I do, no. They print or broadcast what people want to hear this news cycle. They are beholden to circulation
    and viewership. Their financial well-being is the only important factor.

  27. Rob Crawford says:

    “That means either uncovering dirty Republicans (good!), or trying to convince everyone the entire investigation was a Republican dirty trick.”

    Well now, there’s no precedent for that!

    In my adult lifetime, there have been many more dirty tricks against Republicans than pulled by them. I know you have no issue with the Clinton’s going through the FBI files of their political opponents, and their use of the IRS to punish their critics, or the illegal eavesdropping on Gingrich’s phone conversations, but you can’t deny it happened.

    Do you really think Spitzer was the victim of a sting? Or are you simply slinging mud around to force people to blink?

  28. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    Knowing the Press the way I do, no. They print or broadcast what people want to hear this news cycle. They are beholden to circulation
    and viewership. Their financial well-being is the only important factor.

    So what financial angle is being serviced by not informing the public he is a Democrat? Is the public less interested in Democrat scandals?

  29. Semanticleo says:

    “I find the dismissal of news she doesn’t care for torturous.”

    I, on the other hand, as seen above, am glad spitz is over. Is it over for PW? Well, I saw just one post on Larry Craig during the height of his fame. Where are we now on this subject? Three dozen? How many more until this rock bleeds? A dozen more?

  30. Rob Crawford says:

    Knowing the Press the way I do, no. They print or broadcast what people want to hear this news cycle. They are beholden to circulation and viewership. Their financial well-being is the only important factor.

    How would it harm them to identify Spitzer’s party affiliation? Are you saying their audiences don’t want to know?

    Do you honestly believe the lack of a consistent policy to identify party affiliation at the first mention of a politician’s name in the body of a story is driven by the market?

  31. Semanticleo says:

    “Is the public less interested in Democrat scandals?”

    Bingo! You see, it’s teh hypocrisy.

  32. Rob Crawford says:

    Well, I saw just one post on Larry Craig during the height of his fame.

    A quick search and count found five postings about him.

    And why do you care what’s being discussed on someone else’s site? Why don’t you get your own and bring up the things YOU want there?

  33. Ralph Phelan says:

    Having watched the drawn-out Nifong resignation process, I have to ask whether his announcment is irrevocable, or if he can change his mind on Sunday and hang around longer.

  34. Education Guy says:

    I prefer Leo, but call me what you will. Makes no nevermind to me.

    You’ll always be Nancy to me.

    That’s part of what makes me different from y’all.
    I don’t care what political stripe an asshole wears. Get rid of ‘em.

    Oh, you’re different all right. Which is why you made such a clear unambiguous statement about Spitzer and Spitzer alone, why you didn’t try the “they’re all crooks” sleight-of-hand, and why you are not trying to change the subject now.

    You can lie to yourself all you want, but your lies won’t fly here. Nancy.

  35. mojo says:

    Hmmm… semanticleo… Semantic LEO?

    It’s the GRAMMAR POLICE!

  36. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    Comment by Semanticleo on 3/12 @ 9:58 am #

    “Is the public less interested in Democrat scandals?”

    Bingo! You see, it’s teh hypocrisy

    Yours or the media’s?

  37. Rob Crawford says:

    Bingo! You see, it’s teh hypocrisy.

    Bullshit.

    Spitzer’s story is jam-packed with hypocrisy. He hounded after businessmen for minor — sometimes illusory — financial misdeeds, while attempting to get his bank to hide his attempts at laundering payments for prostitutes while prosecuting other prostitutes.

    Or are you saying the Democrats, as a party, have no beef with public corruption? That it’s not really news when we discover a Democrat has been breaking the law and attempting to manipulate the system to hide his crimes?

  38. Education Guy says:

    So EG when Spitzer resigns will Cleo be thinking happy Peter Pan thoughts about Bush being impeached or weill he be thinking about Karl Rove’s insidiously evil plan to bring Spitzer down?

    It will likely depend on what the most convincing of the other hive minds are saying. The one thing you can be sure of is it won’t be clearly expressed or based on morals or logic.

  39. JD says:

    SemenlickerLeo is in rare form today. That pre-traumatic stress disorder must be acting up.

  40. Rob Crawford says:

    It will likely depend on what the most convincing of the other hive minds are saying. The one thing you can be sure of is it won’t be clearly expressed or based on morals or logic.

    It is quite breath-taking to watch the left pause while they get their talking points in order, isn’t it?

  41. Education Guy says:

    The Democrats can only reasonably expect to have the “Republican scandals are more interesting/damning because of the hypocrisy” angle work if they are willing to admit that their wrongdoing can’t be hypocritical because they have no set standards of morals to begin with. It’s sort of funny that they are too stupid to understand that. Stupid and amoral, what a party.

  42. Kirk says:

    Leo,

    In case you hadn’t noticed, PW is not the main stream media.

  43. Semanticleo says:

    “You’ll always be Nancy to me.”

    Keep the misogynistic derogations coming. It is instructive to the
    lurkers passing by…..

  44. LiveFromFortLivingRoom says:

    I am just wondering how anyone on the left can still claim media bias is either a right wing fantasy or that the media is only biased toward conflict and money at times like this. On every news channel, on every print media I look at, it is never front and center he is a Democrat. You have to look at paragraph 15 of the article to see it if it is even given at all. When it is a Republican it is given front and center in the headline, given every time they mention his name on TV or in the graphic at least. This is complete bullshit I have been watching CNN for the last hour and not once did they directly mention Spitzer was a Democrat.

  45. Rob Crawford says:

    Keep the misogynistic derogations coming. It is instructive to the lurkers passing by…..

    Yes, the lurkers will be put off by our insults towards you, but have no issue with your casual acceptance of corruption among Democrats.

  46. Semanticleo says:

    “This is complete bullshit I have been watching CNN for the last hour and not once did they directly mention Spitzer was a Democrat.”

    Fox News as well.

    It’s a conspriacy, I tell you!!!!!

  47. alppuccino says:

    I like to think that the MSM prints “Republican” early in their scandal reporting to quickly thwart your 98%-of-the-time-correct assumption.

  48. alppuccino says:

    It just shows that the Democrats are the establishment as far as corruption goes. And I like it that way.

  49. Techie says:

    The Left: brought to you by the National Insecurity Council.

  50. Cowboy says:

    Pedantic — Leo

  51. Education Guy says:

    Keep the misogynistic derogations coming. It is instructive to the
    lurkers passing by…..

    Come on Nancy, that word is too big for a little girl like you to understand. To be fair, the most instructive thing is that you think lurkers would agree with your position. Let’s call it the Nancy as the center of the world position.

    Which is not to say that there aren’t any lurkers who would agree with your position, and to save time let’s dub them Mary for future conversations. Nancy and her horde of Mary’s.

  52. Education Guy says:

    It is quite breath-taking to watch the left pause while they get their talking points in order, isn’t it?

    It really is. It’s like when you catch a young child with a purloined cookie in their hand trying to figure out which magic words will free them. If you use the right words, you can undo reality.

    Just ask Nancy, who thinks misogynistic is her magic word.

  53. Bareback Andy says:

    Like a steamroller, baby.

  54. JHoward says:

    The toilet cleaners at NPR this morning delivered their lofty, predictable ode to Spitzer, replete with mentions of his former tough-on-crime-dogism, the resulting shock, shock! at finding The Great Man evidently so burdened by his willful, independent, and progressive penis at this juncture in His Illustrious Career, and a follow-on soundbite of his simply colossal ego itself already applauding its rising from the moral and criminal ashes, that being the appropriate imagry to evoke while one resigns for betraying what he’d only hours ago called a failure of all moralities, including, presumably, yours and mine.

    Generous, this most recent in a constant string of otherwise high-minded Democrat victims of otherwise unavoidable and regretful personal foibles. So noble, so objective, so courageous in the face (so to speak) of the unfortunate errant whims visited by God upon The Spirited Progressive Intellect to test their souls. So resilient in enduring the sins of the flesh (for ten fucking years of “pub(l)ic service”) all the while on the Noble Path of The Spitzer Plan for Planning the Plan of Progressivism, Changiness, and what had until this week presumably passed as his version and theirs of left-leaning Hopetitude.

    In other words, what a bunch of lying, shameless jackasses. These fucks must have no overriding moral authority.

  55. JHoward says:

    [Any parallels between the hypocrisy indicated above and the tone of Semanticleo’s various outbursts is purely unintentional…]

  56. JD says:

    This issue is a veritable treasure trove of exposing the double standards employed by the Left, the absolute bias of the media, selective hypocrisy, and just how much of a twatwaffle the likes of semenkleo, hampster, and GiGi are.

  57. JHoward says:

    Excuse me. Meant to say “while one resigns for betraying what he’d only hours ago called a failure of all moralities.”

    I find myself overcome with grief at the thought of an unfaithful public servant.

  58. Education Guy says:

    I’m sort of curious if Nancy thinks that Democratic ex-Governor Spitzer paying for women so that he can use them as sex toys is in any way misogynistic, and if so, why was she so quiet about expressing that opinion? Curious that.

  59. Slartibartfast says:

    “A quick search and count found five postings about him.”

    Remember who’s talking here: a fellow not well-known for paying attention.

  60. Topsecretk9 says:

    In case you missed it

    “As New York’s attorney general, Eliot Spitzer had broken up prostitution rings before, but this 2004 case took on a special urgency for him. Prosecuting an international sex tourism business based in Queens, he listened to the entreaties of women’s advocates long frustrated by state laws that fell short of dealing with a sex trade expanding rapidly across borders.

    And with his typical zeal, he embraced their push for new legislation, including a novel idea at its heart: Go after the men who seek out prostitutes.

    It was a question of supply and demand, they all agreed. And one effective way to suppress the demand was to raise the penalties for patronizing a prostitute. In his first months as governor last year, Mr. Spitzer signed the bill into law.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/nyregion/12prostitute.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

  61. Slartibartfast says:

    The toilet cleaners at NPR this morning delivered their lofty, predictable ode to Spitzer

    Funny. What I heard was a semi-ironic reporting of how Spitzer more or less engineered the same safeguards that brought him down. Must have been a different NPR.

  62. JD says:

    EG – Nope, because Nancy trusts the intentions of the Dems, much like she admitted vis a vis Clinton and wiretapping.

  63. JD says:

    TSK9 – Beautiful, that is.

  64. Education Guy says:

    JD – Democrats are far more trustworthy, I know this because they keep telling me every time they get caught breaking the law or telling a lie.

  65. happyfeet says:

    I heard that more as an IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU sort of story, Slart… sort of conflated almost with domestic spying alarmism… but the point was, it let NPR do the story sort of prophylactically I thought.

  66. JHoward says:

    Not a different NPR, Slart, perhaps just a more jaded listener.

    I got a huge kick out of Spitzer lauding the nebulous principle of Great People never wallowing in their (willful) failures but rather using them to conquer the very adversity of having to deal with them at all. Preemptive self-congratulation competing masterfully with sheer obfuscation.

  67. thor says:

    It’s about time an evil Wall Street player was exposed and now the world can see just how corrupt those Rethuglican family values truly are. Capitalist greed-weevils and hard dicks are one and the same. The true victims in this ordeal are the tragic women Spitzer raped and tossed gold coins at. Demeaning. Despicable. At least the new NY state governor will be a Democrat!

    Beyond words, do Rethuglicans know no shame?

  68. Dan Collins says:

    JHoward: He stole that from Chumbawumba

  69. JHoward says:

    What feets said in #66: I heard NPR’s context as casting humanity as walking potential self-victims, including of our various, um, erections — it was indeed ironic.

    Some are inevitably sucked into arduous Clintonesque self-martyrdom. For and even by The Cause.

    Or maybe I just despise NPR…

  70. psycho... says:

    People!

    The “D” is not the thing.

    Cheerleading is fun, and anti-cheerleading more so, but the point not to let this trading of chants make slip from your mind — which is what it’s made to do — is that if you did what Spitzer did, you’d go to prison. He won’t. Your wife would leave you. His won’t. You’d be financially and socially destroyed. He won’t. You’d never be able to get a job outside a car wash for the rest of your life. None of this will happen to him.

    What team he’s on does determine this, but whether he plays offense or defense doesn’t.

    JHoward and ThomasD are onto something, though. Those who attach themselves to these monsters are worse than monsters. (And that goes double for his wife. “You know what kinda man you got,” as Dr. Rock says. And she does. And if you’re sympathizing with her, fuck you. Your mind’s not working. She’s Caril Fugate, not Queen Isabella.)

    Without followers, there are no Spitzers — or any other evil-politician names that come to mind. Left alone with their psychologies, they’d be marginal creeps and, at worst, serial killers. Compared to the average politician, Ted Bundy’s a fucking saint.

  71. Dan Collins says:

    Enough with the litotes, psycho. People don’t understand that.

  72. JHoward says:

    All of which has a certain consistency to it: If man serves government and if today’s leftist, collectivist, postmodernist moralizing is the higher power it certainly appears, then surely there will be casualties but only conditional casualties. Not casualties to personal ethics and responsibilities, what with their legitimate, attendant sacrifices, forgivenesses, and atonements, but casualties to the Hivemind in the Borg-like way of the left.

    Instant, utilitarian, second chances then abound because personal accountability is apparently replaced with justifications of anything that immediately serves the Hive. Spitzer is simultaneously dispensable yet instantly justified, reformed, and usable. No skin off the Hive’s face either way.

    What’s so blatantly fallacious is that one can thereby preempt one’s own moral salvation, expecting he be forgiven and made useful again before ever being completely accountable. The faux heroism therefore precedes the atonement and any sacrifice made — if any at all — is an accessory virtue.

    The Hive doesn’t value the personal experience, therefore The Hive will not value personal accountability. All is sacrifice, including the sacrifice of accountability and punishment, where means perpetually serve the Hive’s ends.

  73. JHoward says:

    Er, in the last paragraph I meant “all is now collective sacrifice”

  74. MObl says:

    “I got a huge kick out of Spitzer lauding the nebulous principle of Great People never wallowing in their (willful) failures but rather using them to conquer the very adversity of having to deal with them at all. Preemptive self-congratulation competing masterfully with sheer obfuscation.”

    True, true….The poor man! He is simply a victim of the high standards he has set for himself.

    He’ll be teaching ethics and law at Columbia before the year is out.

  75. Semanticleo says:

    “JHoward: He stole that from Chumbawumba”

    He speaks..Praise God and pass the corn relish.

  76. JD says:

    THEOCRAT !!!!!!!!!!

  77. Semanticleo says:

    “JHoward: He stole that from Chumbawumba”

    He speaks. Praise the Lord and pass the corn relish.

  78. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Semanticleo on 3/12 @ 9:40 am #

    If you English majors break it down, it’s Semantic (pause) leo.”

    Ah teh irony.

    This from someone who doesn’t understand English.

    Gaat u akkoord, Seman?

  79. bergerbilder says:

    From the article linked in 61.:

    “Peter Pope, one of Mr. Spitzer’s point people on the bill, declined to comment through the governor’s press secretary, Errol Cockfield.”

    Is there such a thing as “Freudian staff”?

  80. JD says:

    It depends on what kind of staff you are referring to.

  81. McGehee says:

    51. Comment by Cowboy on 3/12 @ 10:25 am

    Close, but it needs one little tweak:

    Pedantic Liar.

  82. MC says:

    Closest thing to a pun today. At lunch one of the ladies said (the discussion had been about Spitzer swallows), “I can take a horse to water, but I can’t f**k it in the a** because I don’t have the equipment.”

  83. Enoch_Root says:

    Education Dude – If it’s all the same to you,could we call Nancy’s friends “Ellen(s)” instead? As a Papist Theo-Con (aspiring Jesus Freak), I beseech thee… thx in advance

    -Enoch

  84. Education Guy says:

    Enoch

    Of course, Ellen it is.

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