The task of cutting greenhouse gas emissions enough to avert a dangerous rise in global temperatures may be far more difficult than previous research suggested, say scientists who have just published studies indicating that it would require the world to cease carbon emissions altogether within a matter of decades.
Their findings, published in separate journals over the past few weeks, suggest that both industrialized and developing nations must wean themselves off fossil fuels by as early as mid-century in order to prevent warming that could change precipitation patterns and dry up sources of water worldwide.
Using advanced computer models to factor in deep-sea warming and other aspects of the carbon cycle that naturally creates and removes carbon dioxide (CO2), the scientists, from countries including the United States, Canada and Germany, are delivering a simple message: The world must bring carbon emissions down to near zero to keep temperatures from rising further.
U.S. Out of Earth!!!
The Southern Baptists are on board.
BECAUSE OF THE MEXICAN FOOD!
Can we now just say “F* it”?
After all, if the only way to avert disaster is to revert to 1800 population levels and technology there isn’t much point in trying. Better to start, now, qualifying bidders for the dike-building.
Regards,
Ric
I don’t know, Ric. Rising sea levels should increase the amount of quagmire on the planet’s surface. And as everyone knows, quagmires are an essential component of a well-functioning ecosystem.
“…if the only way to avert disaster is to revert to 1800 population levels and technology…”
Ric, to the watermelons, the fucking Paleolithic era was too advanced technologically.
I know all that.
What I was trying to hint, in my ever-subtle way, is that they may have overstepped. If appointing St. Al God-Emperor, killing off six billion people, and reducing the remainder to manual labor won’t fix the problem, what’s the point in trying? Hundred-foot dikes don’t get built in an afternoon, and the right time to start is now.
Regards,
Ric
We are all Marsh Arabs, now.
If Kevin Costner can evolve gills, so can I.
Getting rid of much of Florida might be worth it. Manhattan too. They’ll already pumping water out of the subways in a massive way. Pretty soon they won’t keep up.
The Rapture only allows for the good people to be on the Right hand side of God. Could he open up the Left side, please?
Too bad, then, that we ceased construction of nuclear generating facilities some decades ago as the result of the dire predictions of this same gaggle of port-side Jeremiahs, eh? Now they’re poking a branch into the spokes of coal-fired plants. We’ll be back at Ric’s 1800 by default pretty soon.
God doesn’t have a sinister side, dave.
God is never sinister or gauche; always dextrous and adroit.
What’s beginning to interest me more and more about the enthusiastic doom-criers is: What do they expect to be eating in the Brave New World? The Arcadian pre-industrial society they cry for needs — requires — three-quarters of its people directly engaged in producing food by digging in the ground with hand implements. Even if they don’t wind up as trace impurities in the magma at the bottom of the Marianas Trench with the rest of us, how many Professors of Women’s Studies and/or Activists for the Poor does such a society really have the surplus to support?
Regards,
Ric
Eat the Tenured!
Lat’s start by shooting the useless!
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Hey, where are you guys going?…
Cite, please. And said citation must indicate this is a new or unusual state of affairs. NYC’s subways have always been below the local water table.
Only as a last resort, Dan. Part of the reason they’re so abundant is that they’re a bitch to clean.
Regards,
Ric
>>>Better to start, now, qualifying bidders for the dike-building.
Damn, Ric. Why does it always have to be about teh gheys with you, in this case lesbian contractors? Or am I misreading you, and you’re actually referring to someplace they could live free of tHe opressyve patriarchy, like an apartment complex in Hoboken?
Pol Pot, call your office!
<attempts to visualize a seawall made of the stacked bodies of Amanda clones>
<fails>
Regards,
Ric
[who uses “i” and “y” to distinguish between the two meanings]
From Daily Tech by way of Tim Blair’s site:
Researcher: Basic Greenhouse Equations “Totally Wrong”
To hell with carbon emissions and anthropogenic global warming. The cosmic dust will kill us all, IT WILL KILL US ALL ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
The sooner the better, as far as Manhatten replacing those crummy old trains with some bchin hot speedboats.
Can I haz quagmiyr?
nishi should be along any minute to tell everyone why they are full of shit.
she knows things.
And nobody has gone for the “and nothing of value was lost.” reference yet??
Shame.
Nono — I’m suggesting that we ought to ask our friends across the aisle some questions, beginning with what if you’re right?
I’m not just talking about people who can generate a graduate thesis entitled Deep Roots of Marxism-Leninism: Communitarian Practices among Pre-Columbian Tribes of the Celebes Islands. That person has a thesis advisor. That thesis will have three to ten pages of references to other, similar “work”. There will be three to six professors, all with similar backgrounds, solemnly thinking up and asking substantive questions the thesis-writer will have to answer in defense. Taken all together, it’s an example of conspicuous consumption that makes a Gulfstream V look like a bicycle. If we’re going to eliminate industrial capitalism and return to agricultural tribalism in order to save the Earth, which needs to go first — that excrescence, or finding ways to feed Mexican peasants?
Regards,
Ric
The Mexican peasants. Haven’t you heard the Earth’s over populated?
What do they expect to be eating in the Brave New World?
Soylent Green. Duh. It’s a Win/Win/
Anti-Papist Bigots! … is this the right posting? oh shit, sorry guys… as you were.
U.S. Out of Earth!!!
Change that to “off of”, and I’m game.
“Using advanced computer models to factor in deep-sea warming and other aspects of the carbon cycle that naturally creates and removes carbon dioxide (CO2), the scientists, from countries including the United States, Canada and Germany, are delivering a simple message: The world must bring carbon emissions down to near zero to keep temperatures from rising further.”
Seriously,after decades of saying that carbon emissions cause temperatures to rise, they need an ADVANCED COMPUTER MODEL to figure out that continued carbon emissions will cause the temperature to continue to rise?
Why didn’t they just ask me? I wouldn’t have even asked for a grant.
I guess I’m in the “wait and see” camp. Wait and see regarding AGW; wait and see, especially, when the latest refutation is presented.
Fresh data has a habit of being wrong, while well-aged data is more reliable. Like Scotch, only less intoxicating.
I think the GW hoax is sinister and evil. It’s got little kids scared of the weather!
The task of cutting greenhouse gas emissions enough to avert a dangerous rise in global temperatures may be far more difficult than previous research suggested, say scientists
If there is a “dangerous” rise in global temperatures, it won’t be because of us, and there won’t be anything we can do about it.
Unless by dangerous, you mean there’s going to be bad weather. Like there always has been, from time to time.
Personally, I’m more worried about the Yellowstone volcano.
Oh wait. The global temperature has to first regain the last one hundred years that it lost in 2007.
Can’t someone get that Co2 just to buck up? Are you just going to let the world temperature run roughshod over you like that? Where are your kahunas Co2?
(If you want to argue that one year does not a trend make, please explain the stray datapoint using things like world temp data, charts and graphs, math – you know, science).
So the way to save the earth is to make the entire planet carbon-neutral?
Since all life on earth is carbon-based, I guess we know what we need to do: kill everything.
Today I killed a potato and part of a cow.
I’m suggesting that we ought to ask our friends across the aisle some questions, beginning with what if you’re right?
How are they going to decide who starves to death first? That is a rather crucial bit of policy AlGore never seems to want to address, isn’t it?
So after we’ve killed everything, how will the greenies make sure that life doesn’t just crawl right back up out of the soup and start over again? They’ll have to leave someone behind to kill anything that tries, won’t they? What a conundrum. Unless they just nuke the place into oblivion; destroy the planet in order to save…well, not *it* exactly….
Stupid control freaks. I begin to suspect they haven’t really thought this through.
Skynet.
“How are they going to decide who starves to death first? That is a rather crucial bit of policy AlGore never seems to want to address, isn’t it?”
Easy. First, internal enemies of Humanity and the Scientifically Established Global Mandate (conservatives, then people who say something conservative-ish, then people who look like conservatives).
Second, external enemies of Humanity and the SEGM (Chinese people).
That’s how these things work.
“Unless they just nuke the place into oblivion;”
It’s the only way to be sure.