It appears that the national intelligence may be overestimated:
New simulations carried out by European Union experts come to an alarming conclusion: Iran could have enough highly enriched uranium to build an atomic bomb by the end of this year.  ÂÂ
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UPDATE: More from Hot Air
In January, physicist Richard Garwin, who is also a US government adviser, calculated that the Natanz facility — even were it to reach its maximum capacity of 54,000 centrifuges — could not produce enough low-enriched uranium for a nuclear power facility. But, he said, the 3,000 centrifuges currently in operation could be sufficient to produce enough highly enriched uranium for a weapon.
Hmmm…
still not scared by Iran….
Course, not, sashal. You still think the revised NIE was a valid intelligence exercise, rather than a politically motivated pile of shit:
By the way, that “logic” is fatally flawed. If we know where the enrichment facilities are, leaving aside what the enrichment is being used for, and we do . . .
“still not scared by Iran….”
Since you aren’t making any of the decisions (thank God) I really don’t care what your emotional state is. Now go back to sleep.
For a minute there I thought you were referring to our collective intelligence re selecting McCain, Clinton, and Obama as presidential contenders! [rimshot]
But seriously, one bomb isn’t much of a threat; except, obviously, to the one city they might touch it off in. Should they over-reach and use the first before they have more to hide behind — which is entirely possible, they are lunatics after all — it’s unlikely they’d get the chance to build any more. It would suck to be in the city that demonstrates the extent of their evil intentions, but perhaps that’s now the best-case scenario, as it appears unlikely we’ll actually do anything about them until they do touch one off.
Come to think of it though, isn’t this pretty much exactly what the Israelis were telling us back when the NIE came out? I’ve got to wonder what they’re planning, being the most likely target..
I think if we just sit across from them in a Starbucks with lattes in hand and 10,000 Maniacs playing lightly in the background, we could talk about this whole situation and emote about our differences while focusing on what binds us (the commonalities of Humans the world over… I mean they love their children too) we could come to some agreement and/or compromise about this whole thing. Like, we could say, like, “okay, look… we don’t like conflict… I mean, we the American People… despite HitlerCheneyBucshCo. And we respect cultural diversity… like you guys. I mean, some people think little brown people are less-attractive than say tall, blue-eyed folks, not that we’re all tall or blue-eyed or anything… but we do look beyyer, generally, in suits. Not all of us or whatever. I mean ’cause we’re not all blue-eyed and stuff. I mean I have a couple friends who are ‘People of color’ and stuff or whatever. Errr, and also I celebrate diversity… fuck it, you should see my CD collection and stuff. I mean I love all sorts of music. So, like I am cultured and stuff. I went to college in the East for a couple semesters. Boston is fucking crazy! Total party town. Oh, and my books too. We have brown little people too. Most of them work in gas stations… but I mean… anyway, look, howabout this. Oh, before I forget, I have been meaning to ask: did you see the last episode of Lost? I don’t know what it’s called in Iran… errr Persia or whatever… I mean, it’s okay if I call your country Iran, right? Cause I’ve met people from Iran er whatever and they always insist they’re from Persia. But I tell them they can be Iranian around me, cause I am not simple-minded like the fly-over farmers in the Heartland that put ChenyBushHitlerStalin in the Whitehouse. I am like a well-educated big-city type… you know Enlightened and cultural sensitive and stuff. I have friends who are gay and friends who are transsexual and transgendered too. Although, they’re not good friends. You know… I am not… well, I mean I know you don’t have them or whatever over there… but really, you should meet them… they’re really fun to hang out with. I have one of them (he goes by Bernie), he’s part of my MySpace connections… hey, that reminds me: are you on My Space? oh. Well, look, I wanted to hang out with you so you could get to meet like a real American, you know. Not one of those small-minded inbred folks. You know, cause I thought if we could just hang out you’d get to know like a real American… and you know then we could be friends, cause you’d know that at least half of us aren’t you know, pea-brained losers. My friends are going to freak when I tell them I met you. Yeah, hey… would you mind signing this napkin. I can scan it and put it up on my Face Book thingy. Oh, shit, do you know what a blackberry is…”
Fuck it… maybe talking to them is a bad idea after all.
We need to get some “Dead Zone” type coma-guy close enough to shake Ahmadinejads hand – then we would know for sure whether he was planning to push the button (or just get rat-arsed and blow his own brains out) and we wouldn’t have to rely on this ghey Intelligence stuff.
I nominate Sashal to be the one with the sniper rifle if turns out that we are dealing with a Button Pusher.
Except for the reaction to that one city being nuked. Do the victims retaliate, possibly setting off a larger war? Or do they restrain themselves, setting the precedent that nukes are OK if used by a Third World nation against a First World nation?
Enoch_Root
That’s was brilliant!
Because supporting one disastrous, poorly-conceived foreign war per decade just isn’t enough!
Hey, you think you could get me some of that ergot?
Just curious, Dan.
I was not around at the time.
But can you tell me if the same fear and paranoia gripped plenty of Americans when USSR was in the zenith of it’s military power?
The great thing about folks like Argot is that if there is a terroristic nuclear strike, they will simply switch into truther mode and claim that the (Republican) powers that be (or used to be) simply didn’t do enough to prevent it. It’s a perfect, if sadly predictable, closed system.
Why? Did the Russians blow up our embassies, our military barracks and a couple of skyscrapers full of people?
But can you tell me if the same fear and paranoia gripped plenty of Americans when USSR was in the zenith of it’s military power?
Yes. In fact we used to have drills in school where we would either get under our desks or all march down to the basement. Of course, the fact that the USSR spent it’s history invading other countries and killing it’s own citizens en masse may have helped move it from the realm of paranoia into simply being prepared for what seemed like the inevitable.
did Iranians?
Russians did shoot down Powers though (remember Saddam shooting at our airplanes), Korean passenger airplane, invaded Afghanistan, Czechoslovakia , Hungary, put missiles on Cuba.
Just the first things which came to mind, I am sure there were more to be concerned with…
Are you saying that elements of the Iranian state don’t support terrorists with designs against the United States and its allies, sasha?
EG, good answer.
Thankfully we did not hide under the desks or ran to bombshelters as a drill.
I guess we were more sceptical or trusted more that sane and rational people in USA will not start the “nucular” war.
the “elements” do support terrorist and we all know that (btw, Russians did too-supported terrorists-Arafat, red brigades, etc.).
I am referring to the self-survival and rational of the whole country.
No government will ever want self-destruction.
For God’s sake Iran is not even able to stand against tiny Israel.
Stop be scared of them, people.
We certainly should be vigilant, but no more then towards Pakistan, or Venezuela….or even Putin’s Russia…
For God’s sake Iran is not even able to stand against tiny Israel.
Wrong. They just use proxies to do their dirty work. Hezbollah for example. Perhaps that is a lesson they learned from your former country.
I don’t want them to have a nuclear bomb, sasha, particulary given Achmadinejad’s bizarre millenarian rhetoric, which somehow doesn’t strike lefties as more disturbing than Christian fundamentalists in this country.
Thankfully we did not hide under the desks or ran to bombshelters as a drill.
I guess we were more sceptical or trusted more that sane and rational people in USA will not start the “nucular†war.
Or maybe you just weren’t told to. Russian leaders don’t have a history of caring much if a few million of their people get killed occasionally, now do they?
Sashal, you’re confusing “wanting to deal with, before it gets millions killed” with fear. I’m not particularly worried about my own life — or the lives of anyone I know — ending under an Iranian bomb, but I also don’t want to live through the aftermath of a nuclear war, no matter how distant or small.
Frankly, I don’t believe there’s a lot of rationality among the Iranian leadership, at least what we’d judge as rationality. The Iranian government has a different sense of what’s valuable than we do; we can’t trust that they won’t consider a nuclear exchange to be a worthwhile bargain.
You can never convince me that someone who declares their fervent wishes for the deaths of millions isn’t willing to commit the murder of those millions. I guess I’m hard-headed that way, but I believe you’re better served taking people at their word than piously hoping they’re blustering.
Dan, me too, I do not want Iran to have nuclear weapon.
And I would not want the same for Venezuela or any other country, which do not have it yet.
But what should USA do?
Bomb them , invade them? Would that be too much responsibility we take upon ourselves ? Are we that powerful, what if some other bad guy will go after the nukes? Will we have enough power then too?
Just think about this , guys. USSR was considerably greater threat.
And we are still here.
Terrorism is the problem where I agree with you Dan completely.
But bombing or invading Iran will not solve it .
Regular armies are not equipped and counterproductive to fught the smatterings of fanatics.
Let’s leave it to CIA, special opps, Mossad to do that, they sure know how, and I am sure will do it even more effectively in the future.
I am all for the surgical strikes(which McCain do not apporve of against our sworn enemy AQ) and special operations.
Nobody really wants to bomb Iran. Yet.
It’s just that it would be foolish to “take anything off the table.” It sends a message not only to the Mullahcracy, but also to other state sponsors of terrorism . . . I’m looking at you, Syria.
I don’t see anyone suggesting an invasion of Iran, sashal. That would be a really bad idea. As for bombing, well, that depends on what you bomb and what you bomb it with, doesn’t it? What do you suppose the CIA or Mossad might do? Yes, surgical strikes. The Air Force and Navy are capable of those too.
If there’s to be any bombing, I don’t see any point in it being anything other than eliminating the facilities producing the threat.
B Moe, there is the truth in that statement.
But when they faced almost certain defeat and extermination against Germany in WWII, they released many criminals from jails and even some not too dangerous “politicals” and sent them to war.
They could have used any able body to fight the aggression of “evil imperialists”
Your statement could have been more appropriate in regards to China…
i would not take anything off the table, Dan, too.
And you know how our(Russian) tables are always full with delicious edible and drinkable goodies.
But seriously, i love good bluff and conceivable threats.
That is how USSR was deterred.
So here I do not have much disagreement with you…
Yes.
Fagan!
Using New Math, I declare a 1-nuclear-weapon Iran a Non-Threat.
How? Well, let’s see. Suppose they make a sort of medium-sized device, which they happen to sneak into some fairly densely populated American city or other, and set it off. Suppose 100,000 people are killed. We could make it 200,000 and the results would be about the same.
Two and a half million people die in the United States every year. An extra 100k people is a drop in the bucket on that scale, and a statistically negligible blip in the data.
So the New Math enthusiasts like to argue: 3000 people killed in the WTC attacks is a vanishingly insignificant number, statistically. No cause for concern, then.
Now, if they started nuking two or three cities a year, we might deign to pay attention; until then, I say ignore them.
It is interesting that sashal is more concerned about the designs of the United States than Iran.
Nah; it really isn’t interesting. It’s just the same old-same old: America is evil and any who oppose it are good, despite all evidence to the contrary.
America is evil, this I know;
‘Cause every lefty’s told me so.
So, sashal is one of those who thinks the Cold War was a result of American paranoia, rather than a reaction to the USSRs intention and actions in spreading Communism throughout the world, to include a massive black-op to infiltrate the US Government and other institutions in order to undermine Americas strengths, which resulted in them getting the bomb, which resulted in the nuclear stalemate with the hot war faught thru proxies throughout the world. Not to mention the direct training of Arab terrorist groups who were attacking Israel, a key ally in the ME region. Now those groups have morphed into various powers with their own agendas being paramount.
Iran is already waging war against us via proxies with Hizballah and al Quaeda getting support from Al Quds. We’re just too chickenshit to do anything about it, with Democrats more worried about W attacking Iran more than Iran killing US Troops.
BUt, it’s all just a reichwing paranoid fantasy. I remember the leftards back in the day saying the same things sashal does; The USSR wants PEACE MAN, but Reagan want nuclear war. It sounds just as stupid now as it did back then.
I think sashal is Gleen(s) new sockpuppet.
sashal’s like Europe. They’d act all sad if Tel Aviv gets incinerated by an Iranian bomb.
Secretly, they’d be like, “Whew! Israel’s gone! Don’t have to deal with THAT problem anymore!”
I am truly amazed how someone can make such a faulty judgement as poster #34 reading my posts.
I actually just made a similar argument , that regardless how aggressive USSR was, the realism in the USA politics prevailed over the paranoia and fear. Don’t we all like Reagan here(and me especially). But he definitely was a realist.
I am sure the likes of N.Podhoretz would not support him as the president if he would run right now.
What’s the cost to society of one nuke detonating in one city?
Well, we don’t really have a metric, do we?
Is it possible to scale up and extrapolate from the known history associated with the employment of a hat ful of box cutters?
Billions spent on salaries of white shirted TSA drudges. Tens of thousands of man hours added to the cost of business and travel. Massive investment in spurious or technically flawed sensor platforms and systems intended to detect bombs, toxins, and humans being smuggled through ports of entry. Wholesale, willful, institutional ignorance by the highest levels of government where existing illegal immigration and our porous physical borders are concerned, with concomitant justifiable damage to our citizens’ trust and confidence in government’s commitment to this war.
What’s one bomb going to cost… if you aren’t selected for a slot on Big Spikes In North American Air Pollution” on the weather channel?
We all have to dump our shoes when we fly. Some drone drags a sponge treated with agents intended to detect explosives residue across our luggage. I’ve been held up once by the “sniffer”, a machine that uses a puff of compressed air to dislodge molecules from your clothing for instant analysis and hopeful detection of explosive residue. I work on a site where explosives are routinely employed to prep roads and pits for excavation. I also reload metallic cartridges as a hobby, and make it a point to travel in clean boots…
What would the cost of one nuke be? Would it be countered with an eye to economy of force and the highest principles of human justice?
I don’t think so. Matter of fact, I demand that should we ever suffer an attack on our soil via another weapon of mass destruction (what? You don’t remember the anthrax associated with the aftermath of 9/11?) that we can trace back to a specific group or movement or nation or combination of the three… we pull the cork out of the bottle and pour fire across every inch of ground possibly connected with the attack.
We’ve been fighting the active phase of the War on Fundamentalist Islam longer than we fought World War 2 and are not even close to wrapping up our Guadalcanal moment.
The ideas originate in Riyadh and Tehran. The checks are written by sheiks and imams worldwide. They characterize their struggle as one – on – one war with victory or death as the stakes… or simply death unending until some future victory.
Fuck ’em. If they truly want to see God, we’ve got that market cornered in ways they are simply unable to comprehend. We need to school them sooner rather than later, in the hope that we don’t have to go to the mat unnecessarily. Our leadership lacks wisdom, our society rapidly approaches amoral decadence, and our enemy mistakes both for an inability to effectively end this fight.
I don’t hate very easily; if I did, I’d be too busy raging on our descent into apathy to worry about the jihadis. I certainly don’t fear these people. But I know enough about history to see ahead a couple of pages and am quite ready to support necessary force to put these barbarians in a place where they can prey on each other and not my family or country.
You may continue with your normally scheduled Friday. Have NICE day!
ps – sach, I remember “duck and cover”, and remember how surprised I was the first time I met the Bear ‘s minions face to face. “Who would trust these rubes with a set of car keys, much less a ship?” was my first thought.
The thing is, the “realists” of Reagans era were arguing that we would just have to put up with the USSR as is and deal with them. Reagan came in and said we must defeat them. For that, the “realists” were afraid Reagan would touch of a hot war, by not accepting the USSR as a legitimate nation. He called it the “evil Empire” which made the peaceniks and “realists” bonkers.
To me, the realists are those who recognize that we cannot ignore the jahidist war being waged on us any longer The “rationalism” of MAD simply cannot be risked when dealing with Messianic death-cultists like those who run Iran that want a nuclear weapon. Reagan recognized the threat in his day. He would definately recognize the threat of jihadi/wahhabi/ Imperialistic Islam. And the dread neo-cons would be supporting him, just like they did in his day. Which is what neo-cons are: former leftists and libs who came to their senses and realized the threat of despotic regimes to human freedom and the need to oppose them, not accomidate them.
Yeah, Reagan was definitely hated by the “realists” of the day. He was an idealist — believing people wanted to be free — and that set the left’s teeth on edge.
He was such an idealist he wanted to rid the world of nuclear weapons.
Why is it that folks like sashal continually prop up this bullshit idea that we are poised to invade Iran, and proceed to flog that idea. The Left has killed enough straw to make ethanol look efficient.
Sgt Ted –
“Reagan came in and said we must defeat them.”
I respectfully submit that Reagan had a polity more equipped to “win” without pulling a trigger than we have today.
And Rob is absolutely right: the teeth of the Left are permanently on edge, and they act to ensure such a man never be allowed to rise again…
… after all, the only people that pay the price are all those brown folks who aren’t ready for freedom, any way. Oh, and also the people here who watch their freedoms contract by razor thin slices day after day after day, simultaneously suffering the assassination of their patriotism and their country’s history, and the endless, carping ridicule of the ideals that their nation is based upon.
You want to know what makes me proud of this country? I can walk into the poorest part of town ANYWHERE within five hundred miles of where I sit, walk in to a random apartment and take a cold drink out of the fridge, turn on the TV, and read the paper under an electric light.
I’ll have to listen to the owner of the place gripe about gas prices and his weight problem, but if it becomes too much a drag I’ll just toodle on out onto the pavement and walk under the streetlights until I find someplace else where the mood is improved…
… or I can just listen to my daughters’ friends talk about college, jobs, and the future. I don’t know how they keep that PMA, but they do.
This country doesn’t work. It EXCEEDS all reasonable expectations. Not by accident. Maybe by grace, or just call it wisdom if you want.
What a bunch of chimps we have running this show. Sooth!
TmjUtah –
. . . the people here who watch their freedoms contract by razor thin slices day after day after day, simultaneously suffering the assassination of their patriotism and their country’s history, and the endless, carping ridicule of the ideals that their nation is based upon.
Damn, Sir, that was finely said!
Poor Iran. It never gets credit for its ability to act, and only pity and sympathy for its ability to only REact to anything the Great Satan does.
You try walking into a random apartment in Texas and you’re likely to get a quick lesson in Second Amendment Rights.
But I get your point.
scooter –
Point taken, sir. I was being rhetorical. I know I’d react … poorly… to any uninvited somebody diddying into my kitchen looking for a cold one and some small talk.
Might as well clarify: “loss of freedoms” weighs heavily toward speech codes, McCain-Feingold, and PC than it does FISA, or Patriot. Just so you know.
We’ll have plenty of time to chat about Obamanation’s Green Corps and whatever form Hillary!Care ends up taking. Plenty of time…
JD, here is the better question: Why do people like sashal continuously give the benefit of the doubt to proven religious theocrats like Iran’s rulers? Why do people like sashal always question the motives of the United States?
Why is it that way when the evidence would show that their purported principles should have them skeptical of Iran and supportive of the United States?
Those are good questions and they never can be answered, well, not without an answer that in calmer days would have your ticket punched for a one-way trip to the Funny Farm.
What’s the cost to society of one nuke detonating in one city?
Well, we don’t really have a metric, do we?
Tmj – If the bomb falls on a city full of welfare drones created by years of democrat administration such as New Orleans, it might be a net positive. Are we up to $500,000 per resident cost of repair and renovation now and counting, and the carping, complaining, corruption, and teeth knashing continues.
I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s because, culturally, we’ve all been trained to think that way.
I worked with a friend to write a script for a short film. Nothing spectacular, and we haven’t tried to actually produce it, yet, but despite how hard I tried, it was impossible not to fall back on the “big company behind evil conspiracy” trope. It’s part of our cultural shorthand, and a hell of a lot easier to sell to the audience than most alternatives. Keep in mind I’m a supposed RWDB.
Hollywood thrives on stereotypes — the villain is almost certainly going to be a businessman of some sort, the religious guy is either insane or in the closet, etc. Hell, they seem to revel in those stereotypes — look at the praise they heaped on the utterly predictable “American Beauty”. The constant repetition of those stereotypes makes it easier for people to fall into that same type
of thinking.
Look at the press — they fit the facts to the narrative, rather than just reporting. And, endlessly, the narrative they present is anti-American, anti-business, anti-liberty. Can you imagine anyone but John Stossel running a story about how the “Center for Science in the Public Interest” is just a pack of busy-bodies trying to control our lives? Yet, that’s what they are, and the rest of the press constantly runs CSPI press releases blaming choices made by free people on conspiracies by business. People aren’t fat because they eat poorly and don’t get enough exercise — it’s because McDonald’s made them eat there, and restaurants in general serve larger portions.
We’ve been using the same shorthand in regards to the government for so long, it’s almost second nature. New Orleans wasn’t ravaged by a big storm, it wasn’t that the levies were poorly maintained by corrupt local officials — it was a deliberate plan, like something out of an X-Files episode.
Add in the general double-standard the left loves to apply to the US (China shoots down a satellite — yawn; US shoots down a satellite — OUTRAGE!!!), and it’s no surprise every action of the US is viewed with suspicion. Toss in the ignorance most people have of the nature of governments like Iran’s, and why shouldn’t they believe Iran’s motives are innocent?
Bah. I’m rambling, I know, but I think it comes down to most people being so poorly informed, and so used to thinking in those terms.
Nice ramble, Bob. I know my questions were obvious, but sometimes the obvious needs to be stated in order to jar people into thinking about the foundation beliefs they hold. Challenging stereotypes and all that rot.
Rob & TMJ, well said, sirs!
Rob:
The consequence of such a metric is the death of personal responsibility. I happen to be an overweight guy. I recently talked my doctor into letting me take a stress test at 51 years old. No symptons, mind you, just the “it seems like a good idea considering I’m a lard butt” kind of approach. He suggested a nuclear stress test, which I had this past Tuesday. The test went great, no problems or issues. Wed. my doctor calls me and says they found some partial blockages, I need to see a cardiologist right away and, oh, by the way, “don’t do any strenuous exercise until you see him.”
Yikes!
So what am I to do? Blame Mcd’s and Bravo Pizza and Philadelphia Cream Cheese and La Tolteca Gourmet Mexican Restaurant for my clogged arteries? Of course not. The only one to blame is me and my genes (mostly me.). Do I whine that no one was calling me every year to have my cholesterol checked and review the trans fatty foods I bought or how many trips to the gym I made in the past month? Uh-uh!
It’s my own, personal responsibility that at 51 I might need to get the cardiac arteries roto rotored (or whatever.)
I’m not trying to be maudlin but rather to illustrate that sort of attitude as compared to the guy who wanted to sue Atkins for his lousy blood work. Everytime I hear both Barry O’Kennedy and the Hildebeast speak I hear the mantra that says “We’ll look out for you! We’ll make sure you don’t damage yourself!”
Screw them both. Being concerned about terrorism and the states that enable them is not fear, it’s prudence. It’s responsible!It’s what the founders had in mind when they talked about scuring the common defense. How can we expect people to take responsibility for securing the common defense when they don’t think it’s a good idea to take responsibility for their own actions or are willing to provide cover for those unwilling to take responsibility for theirs?
Instead I’ll change my diet, exercise more, take a beta blocker and a statin (along with some vitamans) and get off of my fat ass and work out. Not because it is in the least bit unusual or praiseworthy but because it’s the personally responsible thing to do and I have the freedom to make that choice.
That doesn’t seem so complicated to me.
Progressive politics reeks of elitism, and that’s what offends me most. Others have said it already, and better, but I’m surprised at how much traction they (Progressives) get with this stuff – you don’t know how to raise your kids, so we’ll tell you. You don’t know what to eat, so we’ll outlaw the bad stuff. You can’t be trusted with a gun, so we’ll take them away. Just put the SMART PEOPLE in charge, and we’ll fix everything. Since, clearly, you can’t be trusted to make smart choices yourself.
TmjUtah – no disrespect intended, hope none taken. Your point was a good one – I’m amazed that poor people in this country are fat. Poor people in socialist paradises like Cuba eat banana peels.
BJ – you really don’t hear of many fat Amnish, do you?
Amish.
I think Amish tend to work hard enough, and prize moderation enough, that there aren’t all that many fat ones.
Plus, they don’t have TVs. Or didn’t, anyhoo.
scooter –
None taken at all.
It’s just that I’ve spent quality time in places where “poor” meant “dead by dawn unless pa did okay rustling grubS”.
Back when Bangalore was still called Bangalore, the Untouchables had a contract to clear the corpses from in front of the gate of the U.S. consulate. You see, they’d heard that nobody ever starved in America and that sometimes they let people in through the gate, in to America.
The families that owned the night rights to the sidewalk there rented space on the walk to the individuals, and sometimes entire families, come down from the back of beyond try their luck. The aspirants might be reduced to giving up their last possession – their begging bowls – for the privilege.
I’ve seen poverty. We don’t have much of it here. But we’ve got an entire industry built on the proposition that we do… and by jove I think that right now I’m as angry as I’ve ever been in my life.
Whooooee. Time for some ice tea. And maybe some relaxing leather crafting.
But seriously, i love good bluff and conceivable threats.
It was no bluff. Your lot couldn’t steal stuff fast enough to keep up. Capitalism might suck, but it works amazingly well everywhere it’s practiced. Socialism. Not so much.
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