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Dems 2008: If Obama is McGovern, why not say so? [Karl]

Bob “The Prince of Darkness” Novak reports:

Strategists for Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign believe it is imperative to identify her high-flying opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, with the “McGovern wing” of the Democratic Party — but they want to keep their candidate’s fingerprints off the attack.

Presumably, leaking it to Novak would be considered counter-productive to that sort of secrecy.

Now that her cover is blown, perhaps Clinton ought to be more overt about comparing Obama to McGovern.

She can say that the Right is going to compare Obama to McGovern — and the Clintons cut their teeth in national politics working for the McGovern campaign — which compels her to raise the subject.

She knows better than most the story of how Edmund Muskie was the “inevitable” nominee in 1972, only to have the more anti-war McGovern campaign surge past Muskie to capture the Democratic nomination.  She can talk about how McGovern did this by winning caucuses in normally Republican states — just like her good friend Barack is doing now.

She can then point out that McGovern went on to lose 49 states to Richard Nixon.  She could point out that Vietnam was about as unpopular then as Iraq is now, but McGovern still had his rear end handed to him by… Richard Nixon.

She could point out that nominating the most dovish candidate, even during an unpopular war, generally does not win elections.  She could note that ever since Nixon, the Democrats have failed when they nominated candidates that appealed more to liberal elites than to the forgotten middle class.

Bill Clinton did pretty well talking about the forgotten middle class.  Hillary used to talk about it when she was the prohibitive favorite.  John Edwards — whose endorsement Hillary covets — did much better with focus groups talking about the middle class than he did with his poverty tour on the campaign trail.

Hillary has forgotten the middle class.  For a campaign without a theme, she could do worse than to remember them.

(h/t Memeorandum.)

30 Replies to “Dems 2008: If Obama is McGovern, why not say so? [Karl]”

  1. […] I note that the Perfesser also has a link up about Obama as McGovern, so you might want to check my take on that also. Posted by Karl @ 5:31 pm | Trackback Share […]

  2. Topsecretk9 says:

    Jeralyn at TalkLeft, clearly in the tank for Hillary strangely has a post up today titled– Obama as the Next McGovern? and then goes on to say

    — “The TimesOnline says the right wing is set to attack Barack Obama s the ultimate “liberal socialist” in the mold of George McGovern. … Sample attack: … More… I was struck earlier by Obama’s statement that the solution to the Florida primary election is to hold caucuses…”

    (cribbed from memorandum, the link to her site isn’t working now) Seems you nailed it…”She can say that the Right is going to compare Obama to McGovern — and the Clintons cut their teeth in national politics working for the McGovern campaign — which compels her to raise the subject.”

  3. happyfeet says:

    I think it backed trackwards.

  4. Karl says:

    I was working on this already from the Novak piece — and had it set to fire off Sunday morning — when Jeralyn Merritt’s post went big on Memeorandum (I think due to the Insta-link). So I did a quick edit for the ToL story and fired off now, ’cause it’s all about the traffic, baby.

  5. Karl says:

    BTW, if this blog was a DVD, that last comment would be the commentary track where I take you behind the blogging.

  6. happyfeet says:

    No, for real. I wish I had your email.

  7. Karl says:

    hf,

    That one went right over my head. Do you want my address?

  8. happyfeet says:

    Well yeah but look at my #3. You can send at happyfeet47 at yahoo… so I won’t have to do meta things in comments…

  9. Karl says:

    Oh. That trackback was caused by my update, which was caused by your tip. I’ll send you my address though.

  10. happyfeet says:

    Oh. Sorry. I couldn’t work that out.

  11. MayBee says:

    Jeralyn was one of the bloggers at the Clinton luncheon, fwiw.
    I’m not sure if she hung out with Sid Blumenthal at the Libby trial when Jane Hamsher did or not.

  12. Karl says:

    No problemo. Sent off that e-mail (in case it ends up in the spam bin).

  13. happyfeet says:

    Hasn’t Baracky explicitly budgeted Iraq war money for his changeyness already? If she hasn’t done the same damn dumb thing I think she could probably use that to McGovernize him a bit.

    “This agenda is paid for,” Obama said as the Republican National Committee promoted an “Obama Spend-O-Meter” online to track his proposals and portray him as a tax-and-spend liberal. Obama explained that the money for his spending proposals will come from ending the Iraq war, cutting tax breaks for corporations, taxing carbon pollution and raising taxes on high income earners.

  14. MayBee says:

    Recall, if you will, how Clinton ultimately treated the middle class:

    CLINTON’S ECONOMIC PLAN: The Campaign; Gambling That a Tax-Cut Promise Was Not Taken Seriously

    By MICHAEL KELLY,
    Published: February 18, 1993

    In selling his economic plan, President Clinton is gambling that voters never took seriously his campaign promise to lower the tax burden of the middle class and will respond favorably to an aggressive pitch based on equal measures of hope, fear and class revenge….

    To this end, the campaign will play off voters’ fears that the nation has reached a crisis point, which, unaddressed, could lead to disaster.

    “What I’m trying to get people to focus on is the thought: If you don’t do this now, think of what the country will look like in five years,” Mr. Carville said.

    Does Hillary really have anything to say other than Obama stole her husband’s 1992 play book, and is beating her with it?

  15. happyfeet says:

    “It is critical,” Mr. Greenberg said, that the rich be seen as punished most by Mr. Clinton’s tax increases.

    What’s old is new again I guess.

  16. happyfeet says:

    Oh. I got that from the story MB linked just above.

  17. happyfeet says:

    Obama is stealing Bill’s penchant for the quotidian as well… In his economic plan he totally reorders the economy but throws in fillips like

    Credit card companies often charge interest on transaction fees, such as late fees or paying a bill by telephone. Barack Obama will prohibit credit card issuers from charging interest on transaction fees.

  18. guinsPen says:

    a campaign without a theme

    I nominate “Town Without Pity.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMQ2rJt8-o

  19. Jec says:

    While she’s at it, Hillary ought to talk about Obama’s connection to the Nation of Islam (he has Nation of Islam members prominently on both his Senate and Presidential campaign staffs,)

  20. nishizonoshinji says:

    well….nixon wasnt very old an prohibitively short.
    i think that is the clincher.
    do u think dean lost the nom cuz of the deanscream?
    nope….its cuz on tv, he was revealled to be the egomanical dwarf his supporters never saw on the web.

  21. nishizonoshinji says:

    jec she tried that an it boomeranged on her.
    just like mccain an huck cudnt attack romney on mormonism, she cant attack obama on islam.
    she cant attack him on race either, hehe.
    u kno..she leaks this stuff…and the insta polls turn it back on her.
    shes gettin boxed in.
    it might be she doesnt want to say mcgovern cuz then ppl know that is where a lot of her “experience” comes from.

  22. nishizonoshinji says:

    i thinks that is it, the mcgovern thing
    shed get tarred with the same brush.

  23. nishizonoshinji says:

    she starts it, an obama sez..wait….didnt u work on his campaign n shit?
    how am I like mcgovern?

  24. Pablo says:

    Nixon beat McGovern because of the James Brown endorsement. Everybody knows that.

  25. McGehee says:

    No, Pablo — it’s because Elvis had a badge.

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