In another victory for political dialogue, splodeydopes get their point across through massacre and assassination:
Pakistan’s former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Thursday in the wake of a suicide bombing that killed at least 14 of her supporters, doctors, a spokesman for her party and other officials said.
Bhutto is helped from her vehicle following the October 18 suicide attack on her motorcade.
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Bhutto suffered bullet wounds in the aftermath of the bomb attack, TV networks were reporting.
Police warned citizens to stay home as they expected rioting to break out in city streets as a shocked Pakistan absorbed the news of Bhutto’s assassination.
Video of the scene just moments before the explosion showed Bhutto stepping into a heavily-guarded vehicle to leave the rally.
Bhutto was rushed to Rawalpindi General Hospital — less than two miles from the bombing scene — where doctors pronounced her dead.
Watch aftermath of the attack. »
Former Pakistan government spokesman Tariq Azim Khan said while it appeared Bhutto was shot, it was unclear if the bullet wounds to her head and neck were caused by a shooting or if it was shrapnel from the bomb.
Crap!
The problem here is a signicant number of people in that country who are going to blame Musharraf no matter who was really responsible for this abomination.
Savages.
Musharraf’s warning to any opponent: you could be next!
Any dictator would trade the welfare of his nation for his own personal fortune.
Ding Dong
Oh the fit is really going to hit the shan.
Dan, AP reports
Which seems to contradict the cnn report.
Al Quaeda, with pride, says they murdered those people.
If any good comes of this, Musharref will finally start zapping in earnest, some of that pestilence infecting the hills and sewers of Pakistan.
If only we hadn’t destabilized Pakistan by … what was it we did there? I mean, this is our fault right? I’d better run to HuffPo and read up on how we caused this.
On the left, this will become Bush’s fault in 3…2…1…
I’m trying real hard to see how Musharraf benefits from this tragedy.
One could posit that he arranged a suicide bomber and gunman to solidify a call for martial law and as a warning against other opponents. By doing so he destabilises the entire country and sets himnself up for months of hairy problems. Did he do this to energize the country to get aggressive in fighting the jihadists in Waziristan? Bhutto was a solid supporter on the topic of moving against the splodydopes.
Al qaeda (or insert other jihadist thugs here), on the other hand, gets exactly what it wants within the framework of it’s “strategy.” Chaos and uncertainty are likely to be achieved in the short run. In the long run the jihadists, if it can be demonstrated that they are true to their word of responsibility, may find a far larger chunk of the population hardened to their cause.
Hopefully this will end up as another example of the splodydopes over reaching in the medieval mindset. In the short run, it could get very, very scary.
Oh and, um, Bushitler!
Here ya go
and of course these precious comments from HuffPo thread:
Absofuckingamazing.
“Bravo,” Dan? “Victory for political dialogue,” Dan?
Leave it to a wingnut like you to applaud the murder of innocent people. It’s because they killed a strong woman, isn’t it? You just can’t stand the thought of a non-submissive, independent, powerful woman, can you?
When they start blowing up miserable misogynist wingnut pricks like you, you won’t be applauding any more. You’ll be demanding that the government do something to stop it. Like, keeping the bombers from crossing the borders, or stopping the flow of money that supports them, or leaning on the countries who give them shelter and supplies. Hell, you’ll be screaming bloody murder that they didn’t do something earlier, before these murderers invaded your safe, cozy little corner of the world…
Oh, crap.
When you try and have a shotgun wedding, don’t be surprised when you find the guests are armed.
Darleen:
The really, really sad part of those comments is that the commentators probably believe that they are engaging in serious “reasoned analysis” rather than a blind barking ideological well wish one step removed from chanting “building seven!!!” How is it possible that extremists (on both sides) turn off their brains and run purely on white hot emotion? Don’t answer that, I already know.
Sinister Epiphany: Good one!
BJTexs
Scanning some of those comments is like taking a tour of Patton
It’s all the fault of Booooosh and the Joooooooos!
Sinister’s parody fails because leftists NEVER recognize the cognitive dissonance.
Sarcasm
You just can’t make this shit up, Darleen (#10). Most of the time it’s just amusing. Now it’s actually dangerous.
Yeah, I know. It’s because the murdering savages, when they come over here, will only go after wingnuts like Dan, while looking to enlightened, gentle metrosexuals like myself for guidance and wisdom. No, really!
That’s why it’s doubly important that we take away your guns. Can’t have you screwing up the new order, can we? The day of the Glorious Revolutionary Gay Islamic Vegetarian Workers Freedom And Peace Party is upon us!
You can’t ask cui bono when dealing with Jihadi’s; there is irrationality and obliviousness to the evil and self-destroying nature of their murdering. They think Allah benefits when murder is comitted in his name. “Everybody dies” seems to be preferable to anybody lives without submission to (their idea of )Allah. What are you going to do with people like that? Who think free will is a departure from righteousness, and that freedom is forced slavery and submission to a very demanding, exacting, bossy God?
Son of a gun — today is Thursday! I’d lost track.
I have a modest proposal…
Vegetarian? What about those poor cows forced into servitude to provide mankind milk, cheese, and butter? Hater. You must give up your lactic ways and become vegan. BECAUSE OF THE BOVINS.
“She has been ‘Martyred!'” These are the sentiments of her party leader, as reported by the BBC 4’s “World News” service a moment ago.
Is it that Benizir Bhutto is Pakistan’s newest Muslim hero?
Not to mention, all the aborted eggs you wingers turn into omlettes. It would be nice if you could get off your high horse regarding unborn human babies (which the world certainly doesn’t need any more of) and give have a thought to the unborn chickens you scramble on Saturday morning. With bacon.
The horror.
Sorry, Carin — but I can’t allow anyone to glorify the dismemberment of living plant-beings for their selfish sustenance.
PHOTOSYNTHESIS NOW! PHOTOSYNTHESIS FOREVER!
Carin – Human egg white omelettes are just not that tasty. Just sayin’
Someone ought to organize a Splodeydope Olympics. The jihadis really need a medium where people can watch their artistry, so we can reach an understanding. And, while practicing the jihadi biathalon – the suicide vest coupled with the RPG launch, they might just cull the heard a bit.
I agree with BJ – one of Bhuto’s close friends (I forgot the name but its been mentioned in a bunch of the articles) didn’t believe the government was to blame. I believe it. AS Iraq improves, as muslims embrace democracy in some parts of the world, the small minded zealots who want to keep the middle east repressed are desperate to stop the movement.
Do we know how Andrew Sullivan is reading this? Because, as far as I’m concerned, until Andy S chimes in, nobody’s said nothin’ yet.
All this anticipatory angst regarding the expected blame to be reaped by this administration (lower case intentional) is precious indeed.
Can ANY of you ( I refer to the rational minority) honestly extol the virtue of competency of the Busharaff alliance? Feel free to extend the boundaries of Pakistan to include ANY bright spots in the Foreign Relations arena for which we can be thankful to these monumental fuck-ups.
… or Semanticleo? Oh, sorry, right on schedule.
Matt:
Obviously he’s been corrupted by the CIA and Pakistani Intelligence.
NO BHUTTOS FOR DICTATORS! (/sarcasm)
I’ll also make myself an unfeeling kill joy by saying that while many barking moondogs are making Bhutto out to be some sainted martyr for democracy, she and her family have a long history of corruption and economic self interest. It’s important to remember that her father’s corruption and incompetence caused the collapse of the Pakistani economy, causing the widespread failure of the nation’s educational system. The Saudis and others were only too happy to build hundreds of Wahabbist/Deobandi madrassas where young, male children are programmed into blood lusting jihadist robots.
Pakistan desperately needs another, non corrupted secular political figure to make it’s way to real democracy, of the Turkish sort.
I’m sorry, are the Taliban still running Afghanistan? We need to do something about that!
Shreiking and absolutist are no ways to go through life, girl.
No takers, eh.
I am shocked, SHOCKED to find there’s denial going on here.
honestly extol the virtue of competency of the Busharaff alliance?
I want to hear honest alternatives given. Criticize all you want, but was there an alternative? And if so, what?
Out of respect for the holiday season, I was going to refrain from noting that semenlikkker is one of the most painfully and aggressively stupid fucktard around, absent timmah. Dumbfuckerry on display.
For you, Semi-Clueless, denial really is a river in Egypt.
Cleo
Can you please point to a time when Pakistan was the model of geniality, comraderie and Robert’s Rules of Order akin to an American mid-west PTA meeting or Methodist covered dish get together?
Osama bin Laden targeted Bhutto in the early 1990’s… long before Boooosh.
But I realize history isn’t a “progressive’s” strong suit. Too much that doesn’t support the Progg World View(tm)
Semanticleo, it’s time to put that stuff to the side so the healing can start I think.
oh, btw
The Boooooosh ZioNeoCon administration was doing everything diplomatically possible to pressure Musharaff into holding elections and brokering a power-sharing with Bhutto.
So blaming Booooosh and Jooooooos for her assassination is particularly stupid. Not unexpected but still stupid.
SemenKKKleo has never really been quite right. Maybe it is all of that fellating of O-Dub she does. Or, the PRE traumatic stress disorder.
Or, Kyoto.
NO DICTATORS FOR CARBON CREDITS!!!
What really is the scariest thing about this to my thinking is that apparently Bhutto’s party didn’t have a plan in place for this sort of inevitability. Shows a lot about that woman’s priorities I think.
Perv is playing his little pro-con game with the Taliban/AQ for a reason – he wants to stay alive while surrounded by unknown numbers of infiltrators in the Paki security orgs. Bhutto promised to hunt down and kill the terrorist outfits, and got dead real quick, probably with an inside assist.
Advantage: Perv. Point proved, I think.
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Comment by Semanticleo on 12/27 @ 12:47 pm #
Busharaff
I see yer problem right there!!
If you want a ‘measured’ and ‘ reasoned’ response, you have to quit using stupid sophomoric little digs like the one above. Otherwise people will believe you’re an unserious stupid moron. Little wonder.
JohnAnnHarbor,
The easy answer is, we have the Pashtun in a pincer-trap. Before we didn’t.
Musharraf, and the bulk of capitalist Pakistani society are on the West side. And NATO forces are dug-in in Afghanistan to the East. All thanks to Bush/Powell/Rice’s forward thinking and steadfastness.
My advice is, don’t be hypnotized by CNN and BBC reportage on Pakistani politics (as it appears you are). These outlets parrot Transnational, anti-Bush narratives and, as evidenced by their mis-reporting of the “Anbar Awakening,” are ill-suited to detect the key military trends that may rebuke these narratives.
That means that you-won’t-know-what’s-really-going-on.
BTW: These media “blind-spots” extend to other issues in Pakistan, such as class and ethnic issues, where “Global Media’s” European-style Left/Right perspective misinforms about social-divides, rather than salves them.
I see yer problem right there!!
Note; looking for ‘rational’ commenters.
cleo looking for rational commenters here ’cause the mirror is no help at all.
Hi! I’m rational, Semanticleo. I would be happy to help you if you need some clarity on recent events. Let me know…
The problem, Cleo, is that your definition of ‘rational’ is orthagonal to the widely-accepted one.
You’ve been asked to provide reasonable alternatives to the Musharraf arrangement; you have yet to offer any. If you did, we could have a rational debate about the merits of the alternative offered. You’ve been asked to provide evidence that the situation in Pakistan was better before Bush took office; you have yet to offer any. If you did, we could have a rational debate about the missteps and mistakes that caused such a deterioration.
Until such time as you begin to argue in good faith, this community has no obligation to engage you in good faith. Until such time as you offer real arguments and a little respect to your readers’ intelligence, you may expect little more than name-calling from this community. It is more than you deserve, really.
Karl, you just don’t understand. It is the height of rational commentary to use terms like “the Busharaff alliance” or to imply that this assassination is in no way due to independent actors. No, no, the rational approach is to blame “[the] bright spots in the Foreign Relations arena” – followed by a sarcastic thanks “[for] these monumental fuck-ups”.
When Andy S gets this worked out, I would expect no less. Better written perhaps, but no less.
Cleo claimed:
No, you’re not.
HTH. HAND.
Irrespective of Pakistani democracy blah blah blah Cloverfield is sticking to its January 18 release data, so I’m looking forward to that even though if the reviewers want to try to talk me out of going I will definitely listen to what they have to say.
That should be *date,* I guess. I didn’t know I actually posted this comment, really, but there it is.
Libya gave up its WMD program. The Khan nuclear market was shut down.
That’s off the top of my head.
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Comment by Semanticleo on 12/27 @ 1:36 pm #
I see yer problem right there!!
Note; looking for ‘rational’ commenters.
Reading comprehension not you’re strong suit, eh?
Also, Liberia. And Mexico could have gone to that crazy old freaky commie guy instead of the amigo what won. It was a close thing, and the Bush team definitely didn’t hand the commie guy a lot to work with, so that was pretty savvy. They have been very patient with Europe, almost inhumanly so. India thinks we’re pretty neat. Japan, too. Bush did not send out the Giant Robot to knock New Zealand into the sea, which was very diplomatic and also enviro-friendly. All in all, Bush has pretty much saved the world I think.
S-Cleo
I am proud to say that most people here are so smart that they can actually PREDICT what you will say next. Psychics! That’s what we are!
Now. Where does that leave you, and your “fact based, rational analysis”?
I would have to say, though, that I would be embarrassed to be your father, and have to explain to all my neighbors, why you take the short bus to school.
“Oh, it’s just a bureraucratic mistake”. What other ‘splanation could be offered? Your rationality certainly can’t be questioned, n’est pas? (I hope nobody knows French – ’cause I pretty obviously don’t).
I think you speak French beautifully, LD.
Benazir Bhutto was a great woman.
The people who killed her are cowards.
Terrorists will never change the world.
They say their killing is in the name of Allah.
The fact is that Allah said not to kill.
This means Allah is sending these filthy coward terrorists to Hell.
Terrorists are liars who really do not believe in Allah, because if they did, then they would not be killing people.
Terrorists want their own religion to be the only religion in the world.
I laugh at that.
People will follow any religion they want to.
We will worship who and what we want.
That will never change.
Bin Laden, Atta, and the other sick terrorists have never changed a thing.
They wasted their lives, and life goes on.
Long live America!
Long live Israel.
Long live Benazir Bhutto!
I am,
George Vreeland Hill
Permit me a moment to pass around this handy-dandy “What to Do When Clueless Fuck #5134 (aka Semanticlown) shows up in a thread.”
Please review with me the steps to be taken.
1. The first honest, rational commenter to notice a steaming pile of CF #5134 commentary should immediately place traffic cones around the site to ensure no one else step in it.
Since that alone is no longer sufficient, and CF #5134 has shown a tendency to return to eat its own leavings and vomit them up again, I’m afraid we’re going to have to add another step to the instructions:
2. Temporarily change your screenname to that used by CF #5134 and post some variation of the following in a comment:
Hopefully, upon seeing that comment, CF #5134 will believe it has already re-soiled the thread, and will move on.
Thank you for your help with this infestation.
‘Cleo is right: Measured against a set of idyllic, perfect conclusions Bush’s policies have been utter failures. Just like all others since, oh, 1789.
No, only Hershey’s.
“…n’est pas…
Biting tongue…must not correct atrocious French grammar…must not become my mother.
Here. Clamp down on a pencil with your teeth…that usually works…
Zut Alors!
I would ask that others adopt the Major John ROE – do not engage the Talking Telephone Poles. That is all. I will now resume enjoying my two weeks leave before returning to Ft Riley to finish training. Then, it is On To QUAGMIRAQ!!!!11!1!
Godspeed, Major John. Don’t forget that we will all have you in our prayers, and to get us your APO.
“Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez told reporters in Caracas: “We received the news with great pain, and I hope this is never repeated ever again, anywhere.”
…and in one shining pleonasm, Yugo gives us a glimpse into the mind that so fascinates Sean Penn and Semanticleo.
“Yugo gives us a glimpse into the mind that so fascinates Sean Penn and Semanticleo.”
I was talking to the block mason foreman on one of our jobs yesterday and he said one of the things most Americans don’t get about Chavez is how truly ignorant the man is, apparently he has about a third grade education. He said people in Mexico make fun of his speech. From what I understand from some of my other Central American friends, if Mexicans make fun of your Spanish, you have a problem.
All of the Latin American countries believe that their Spanish is more pure than that of the others around them, and probably than that of the Spanish themselves.
Per Instapundit,
Tens of thousands of NATO troops are massed in Afghanistan right now. That’s a pretty handy development given Pak’s newly-apparent “failed state” status.
But, did the Clinton/Christopher/Albright administration station them there? Or was it W. and friends?
I’m asking ‘cuz I’m all confused by the journalists I read. They’re saying Bush kinda had a hand in it, but he screwed it up mostly… and also that Bush had nothing to do with it, and if he did he shouldn’t have.
Should never comment unless there are a couple of days free for follow-up. Otherwise the howler monkeys get emboldened enough to air-dry their balls and imagine them larger.
I don’t get it. Why is air-drying contingent on emboldening? I mean, air-drying just sort of happens that’s why it’s called air-drying.
It’s not a proactive sort of drying I mean. You’re just letting the air do the work.
That you don’t get it is commentary enough
oh yeah well you are
Semenlicker is off her meds, again.
It does kind of sound like she’s mumbling to herself. Maybe she’s one of those for whom the holidays are kind of tough.
Hang in there, semen!
Please, a corrupt Pakistani leader gets killed by a rag-tag Mickey Mouse outfit, and these racist Libs blame it on *Bush!* Lol! I thought Bush was an incompetent idiot who couldn’t take a dump right, and now he somehow can order a hit on someone in *Central Asia* and it *actually works?*
You have to wonder why the Libs call people like Lott racist, and then turn around and say brown-skinned Muslims are too stupid to send airplanes into buildings. Projection, much?