Report: Abstinence Not Curbing Teen Sex
Bombastic Texas Minister Embroiled in Firestorm of Sexual Turmoil
Cowabunga/Geronimoo–What is it raining? Not cats and dogs.
Universal Studios apologizes for freaking out over breastfeeding–Because people shouldn’t be able to see some things for free.
More Seriously  [Ramesh Ponnuru]
I do think the Robertson endorsement is a big plus for Giuliani. It’s not as big as getting a more current figure, but it beats not having a prominent social conservative. And any of the other guys would have loved to get Robertson. It may also make sense for Robertson, since he has more value to Giuliani that he would have had to any of the other candidates.
Advantage for the primaries, sure. Disadvantage for the general election?
Boy: Friendship With Teacher Led to Sex (Slippery Slope)
Well, they figure since there aren’t any horses to frighten anymore, they might as well do it in the middle of the street.
I like how they buried the fact that this “non-partisan” group that did the study also publishes books for the curriculum for the comprehensive sex education programs.
That is a great headline, Dan.
You would think that since the group that did the study is also the same group that has done many of the prior studies, and has an interest in promoting the comprehensive programs, that would be noted early on, instead of simply calling them non-partisan.
Actually, when the media goes out of their way to call a group non-partisan, it is almost always far to conclude that they are not only partisan, but in favor of the Dems as well.
I like the idea that the more comprehensive programs actually increase…wait for it…abstinence.
Because teenage sex is totally a Red State/Blue State issue, JD. And they’re not on either side of that divide. Clean hands, see?
I think Sowell did a pretty convincing takedown of the idea that “comprehensive sex education†is a benefit; more accurately, it was a solution in search of a problem, which it helped create, and now more and younger “comprehensive sex education†is the cure always proffered for the problem.
Sowell also makes the rather convincing point that it doesn’t take very long, or very many attempts, to teach the “plumbing†to curious kids. They’re innately interested, and they get the idea of how babies are made rather quickly. What does take a while is undermining and subverting the sexual and gender mores of the childrens’ parents, which as we all know as astute observers, is the real purpose of the whole exercise.
Teens are looking to authority figures for buried messages about what is “normal†and how to be an adult – a “meta-message,†if you will – and it does not take very much to conclude that “comprehensive sex education†and distribution of condoms will create an environment in which teens will seek to conform to being what is perceived as “normal†by visiting the condom bowl. It is but a half step from coercion, which the teens will take care of themselves.
There are two kinds of people, I think – those who believe that 14 year olds really shouldn’t have sex under any circumstances, this opinion usually issuing from the experience of the demonstrably awful decision-making notorious of 14 year olds – and the other, crazy people, who think that 14 year olds really ought to be able to decide the matter on their own. The latter generally cannot understand the idea that authority runs with responsibility, and, after all, when Suzy Rottencrotch gets pregnant, abortion is no big deal and those silly parents with their “outdated†morality will deal with the mess in one way or another.
Anytime you pull back the mask on a vociferous advocate of “comprehensive sex educationâ€Â, you see a Scooby-Doo villain of the second, crazy sort.
Alec
The Vagina Warriors would have it that to deny or shame Suzy out of an abortion is to punish her with pregnancy. Those of us who do no look to abortion as a sacrement of womanhood (defined down to 9 and 10 y/os) (I’m a reluctant pro-choicer) HATE womyns and HATE babies, ya know.
I’d have had all you crazy kids having sex if hadn’t been for you meddling kids!
Did I type “crazy”? Shoulda been “dang” kids, or maybe just “kids.” I should probably go back to just biting my tongue – er, fingers. You know.
“meddling,” scooter. “meddling.”
I had to change that, scooter. Can’t have people saying we don’t know the difference between meddling and crazy.
“A spending bill before Congress for the Department of Health and Human Services would provide $141 million in assistance for community-based, abstinence-only sex education programs, $4 million more than what President Bush had requested.”
Your ilk never saw a military-pipedream-boondoggle weapons system you didn’t want to pay for with tax dollars, but public programs….pheh.
You remind me of rednecks with the latest water and off-road toys filling their overgrown yards who whine they can’t afford to fix their kid’s teeth. It’s your priorities creating that fetid odor you wrinkle your nose at.
We could stop this new fangled “Teen Sex” thing real easy if we wanted to.. We just start some programs in our schools to promote drug use, fast food and video games.. Then when all our teens have bought into it and are fat, pimply, misanthropic shut ins no one will want to have sex with them.. Problem solved..
Cleo – Go get you PRE traumatic stress syndrome checked out.
We do not object to public programs, just ones that do objective damage to children and families.
That “fetid odor” is coming from your abode. Take a shower. Get out of the house, cleo. Life as a shut-in cannot be fun.
“The Vagina Warriors would have it that to deny or shame Suzy out of an abortion is to punish her with pregnancy. Those of us who do no look to abortion as a sacrement of womanhood (defined down to 9 and 10 y/os) (I’m a reluctant pro-choicer) HATE womyns and HATE babies, ya know.â€Â
Actually, Darleen, you left out the part of “OMG!!! IF THE WINGNUTZ WUDD SUPPORT SOCIAL(ISM) JUSTICE INSTEDD OF REICHWING CHIMPLER’S TAX CUTZ FOR DADDY WARBUKKKS, THERE WUDD BE NO ABORTIONS!!! OMG!!!â€Â
Also, my Spidey sense tells me that Marcotte and “the Feministe†aren’t so free with the distribution of access to the holy vagina.
Is “all teh good sexxx†with a gaunt, pasty, ill-groomed punk who looks in pictures as if he must emit the faint scent of urine really “all teh good sexxx?†Methinks . . . Not.
“Your ilk never saw a military-pipedream-boondoggle weapons system you didn’t want to pay for with tax dollars, but public programs….pheh.”
[foghorn leghorn] You see, son, raising an Army and a Navy is one of the ennumerated duties of the Feddle gubmint in that thar Yooonited States Consteeetution, I say.[/foghorn leghorn]
Also, I reckon that I can deliver the appropriate message to my children at the appropriate time, and – get this – it costs the Federal Government – NOTHING!!!!
Wait, Cleo. So you’re saying that Bushco hates “public programs” or some sort of thing by having Congress INCREASE the budget by ~2.8%? Stop the presses!
You know, there really is a reasoned case to be made that pregnancy is rather burdensome to a 9 or ten year old. And I think that case could be made without a single all-caps reference to Chimperators or wingnuts, or making medical or surgical interventions “sacraments.”
Techie – According to the leftists, this could be a cut, because they were proposing a $500,000,000 increase. In leftist-ese, this amounts to a $496,000,000 cut to this program. Why do Republicans hate the kids?
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Your ilk never saw a military-pipedream-boondoggle weapons system you didn’t want to pay for with tax dollars, but public programs….pheh.”
Um, would you like to enumerate some of the “military-pipedream-boondoggles”?
I forgot to turn off the sarcasm tags.
Remember, Teh Patriarchy hates it when women say “yes, and no strings attached.” Hate it!
The best way for women to ensure that they will be taken seriously as thinking adults is to put out. And dress like a ho. Especially dress like a ho.
N.O’Brain – Don’t go getting all factual on Miss Cleo. She feels it. Should she grace you with one of her visions, I suspect it will be an absolute cornucopia of moonbat ranting. Stay tuned …
dicentra – My little 5 year old wants “low rider” style pants for her upcoming birthday. Maybe I should buy her some thongs too, huh? Ugh.
What, they fill cornucopias with vomit, now?
“You know, there really is a reasoned case to be made that pregnancy is rather burdensome to a 9 or ten year old. And I think that case could be made without a single all-caps reference to Chimperators or wingnuts, or making medical or surgical interventions “sacraments.—
Perhaps so, but I would rather not hear the case made by someone who encourages nine year old girls to “explore their sexuality” and distributes prophylactics. You see the connection here, perhaps?
“What, they fill cornucopias with vomit, now?”
From the Memoirs of Vomitus Maximus.
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Comment by Semanticleo on 11/7 @ 9:19 am #
“What, they fill cornucopias with vomit, now?â€Â
From the Memoirs of Vomitus Maximus.”
Why would you write your autobiography under a pseudonym?
#20 N. O’Brain
Um, would you like to enumerate some of the “military-pipedream-boondoggles�
My guess would be “anything that makes noise”.
“Um, would you like to enumerate some of the “military-pipedream-boondogglesâ€Â?
Just begin with the Enola Gay and assume anything else effective and/or having a deterrant value is included.
I gather that Semanticleo doesn’t quite understand our preference for winning wars, and giving our boys a technological advantage to further this end . . .
Perhaps so, but I would rather not hear the case made by someone who encourages nine year old girls to “explore their sexuality†and distributes prophylactics. You see the connection here, perhaps?
The modern question is why can’t we teach self restraint anymore? The loss of false shame seems to have been accompanied by loss of any shame at all, even that which ought to apply.
SarahW – Well said.
I blame teh internets.
Oh, come on guys, we spend literally BILLIONS on weapons systems that don’t work. I know, because I saw a fake news story in the movie Broadcast News about it.
On the other hand, social program spending (see “The Great Society”, “the New Deal”, etc.) are ALWAYS dollars well spent. They always have net positive social effect. And even if they don’t, you can’t prove that the problem isn’t that we haven’t spent enough.
On the other hand, we are the best in the world at BSU (“Blowing Shit Up”). So there is that.
Oh, hey, I forgot to add . My bad – would hate for the comments to be filled with unintentional sarcasm on my account.
Oops – forgot to add “”. The browser will apparently treat ANYTHING as a tag of you format it correctly.
/SARCASM
Dang. I really should be working anyway.
Scooter – Great example. We he spent billions, if not trillions of dollars in the War Against Poverty, yet there are still the poor. Ask Cleo, it is not that the money was spent incorrectly, it is that there has not been enough money spent. It is never the fault of the underlying premise (government can fix it), it is always a result of insufficient funds. Or Republicans.
Dan – It does not really matter in the general. The Left will find people like Robertson, Rudolph, and other such people, and portray them as the face of the Republican party, whether or not they endorse anyone.
Sure, JD. Because if you give the poor a million dollars, they’ll all be millionaires. What could be simpler than that?
Of course, that’d only push the poverty line higher, but if we give them all a million dollars next year, problem solved!
I’m wondering whether Dan really has an ilk, anyway. I question whether he’s got the social skills.
I do so have an ilk. It’s just that they’re . . . incognito.
“incognito ilk”, suspiciously enough, anagrams to “lock ignition”. Which should tell you a lot, right there.
I want an ilk. Can you buy them at Lowe’s or Home Depot?
He is, in fact, a member in good standing of the Benevolent and Protective Order of Ilks.
Irish Ilk Hound.
I googled ilk, and found that http://www.iLKiLKiLK.com is not the least bit surprisingly, a French company.
Semanticleo, on the other hand, anagrams to “coital semen”. Also “lame section” and a number of other equally appropriate phrases.
No. Not only because it will annoy and fool in equal, tiny measure, but because you guys severely underestimate how much people already hate the despicable, corrupt, insane fuck you’re nominating. This guy really is the cartoon devil BDS-heads say Bush is. They’ll say the same crazy shit, because they always do, but they’ll be right this time, because you chose a man to match their rhetoric — who doesn’t even share any more of your positions than Hillary does. Not a winning strategy.
But, presuming it’s not stupid, the Party has another idea of winning; it clearly wants Hillary to be President, and to purge itself of the tiny remnants of Goldwater conservatism and mild libertarianism that remain in it. Worry about that, if you care. Because she’s already won. Your guys chose her.
Huh?
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#20 N. O’Brain
Um, would you like to enumerate some of the “military-pipedream-boondoggles�
My guess would be “anything that makes noiseâ€Â.”
He must love the “Hush-A-Bomb”.
Dan, I think he doesn’t like Giuliani.
Well the psycho guy has a point. If we were to take Guliani and Clinton side by side on issues are we going to come up with many significant differences?
We might like Rudy on the GWOT and he says he’s a fiscal conservative but as for the rest? He may have a better likability rating than the Hildebeast but he’s easily the most liberal of the Republican candidates.
We’ll see…
The key passage in the “Illegal Alien Students Fucking the Fat Teachers That American Kids Won’t Fuck” story:
The boy said they drove 1,300 miles to Riverside, Calif., outside Los Angeles, to see relatives but they couldn’t find anyone because they had no phone numbers or addresses. He said they made a short trip to a beach, where he swam in the ocean.
“She wanted to see the beach, I guess, because she had never seen it,” he said.
Mystery solved.
psychologizer always has a point. It’s just that I was the one who asked about the general election, out of curiosity more than any interest in Giuliani. I think he might have been addressing himself to Ramesh & Company, as “you,” but that pronoun in this instance was ambiguous. So, more confusion than anything.
I just noticed something … that 270 kg cow that fell off of a cliff had to be euthanized. The damn heifer did not die when it fell off of a cliff onto an automobile? That was one tough cow, prolly would not make for good eating – tender is better.
I’d call that tenderization.
I’ve written Darleen and Serr8d and asked them to cook up a “Watch for Falling Cow” road sign, but I haven’t gotten a response.
Just take a picture of Helen Thomas, and levitate it over the head of a stickman.
When I was seven years old I looked up “sexual intercourse” in the dictionary. A light bulb went off and, briefly, the world made sense.
Ensuing years of sex education seemed utterly tedious. Never could understand what the purpose of teaching us about something we weren’t supposed to be doing, especially since they never taught us about the things we would need to know to actually do it. Instead, we all ended up learning the hard way (wa WAAA), just like every generation before us.
Sex Ed. What a crock.
Dan, I saw one on, I believe, Wizbang.
Fock. Thanks, McGehee.
They didn’t have Cowabunga or Geronimoo, did they?
Gee. Dan, you know I can put things on signs. It’s enough to make a girl eat cookie dough.
Sorry, Sarah. I’ll think of you next time.
SarahW – How about a Helen Thomas falling from the sky sign?
Ramesh Ponnuru is a ding dong.
Since when can registered users not post links in the comments. I’m onto the chocolate gingerbread by now.
I never really understood how Giuliani’s response to 9/11 wasn’t perfectly in line with his job description.
Link test
Happyfeet, well, it was. I think that’s why people were impressed with G. He did his job.
At the time I was working at a studio and what we did was flee. As we got to the elevators they told us to get gas on the way home.
That headline link in #69 made some folks mad in 2004. I can’t see why, but some folks were upset and thought MM had been injured.
I never knew MM’s skull got crushed by the spotlight. You would never notice it, given its size.
happyfeet – It is always so much more enjoyable when you are around.
JD, it was quite the ordeal, which you can read for yourself if you have good eyes.
And happyfeet does also improve my mood. I might even go for a nice run, instead of cramming cookies in.
SarahW – Step away from the sweets.
That story about the boy hooking up with his teacher. That would have played out a whole hell of a lot different if the child was a girl and the teacher was a man.
y’all are making my most crappy day in a good while a little better. thanks for that. not a crappy day in the sense that it won’t get immediately better come 5:00, but for now it’s above my tolerance level for general crappy dayness.
Well, happyfeet, you make all our crappy days better, too.
And I think you’re in touch with your feminine side. Which I admire. In a Viking way.
Happy – Just go stare at New Girl’s breasts for a little bit ;-)
I will own that.
oh – New Girl is away til Friday. There’s still an afterimage if I squint really hard though.
I would think that with New Girl, and her special brand of stupidity being gone, that things would be looking up.
She has been in touch through messenger. A lot. I hooked her up with my best work-friend and lied to him and told him she was awesome so he would help her have a good time at HQ and meet people. After she meets people she goes back to her temporary cube and tells me who she met and that they are “super super sweet.” How daft.
Yep. Definitely in touch with his feminine side.
I bet your best work-friend might not be so fond of you right about now. lol
daft – another great word.
Cleo: “You remind me of rednecks with the latest water and off-road toys filling their overgrown yards who whine they can’t afford to fix their kid’s teeth. It’s your priorities creating that fetid odor you wrinkle your nose at.”
What about idiot hippies with three new SUVs who can’t afford health insurance for their children?
B Moe – How quickly they forget.
The reason the the War on Poverty didn’t work was that we haven’t been bombing enough poor people…
Just sayin’
You know, that might be a case where bombing them really did create more of them.
Where do you find that many depressed cows in one place? Is the cost of cattle feed being driven up that badly by ethanol?
Sure it wasn’t a steer? I mean! That would make anyone depressed.
Ya think? Instead of feeling vaguely sorry for the twit we’d probably be debating the morality of forced sterilization.
Swen – There is a guy arguing, at another site, that she should be given probation because it would be unfair to her child to take her mother away from her.
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