Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive?
Goddamnit, this would NOT HAPPEN if Ron Paul was in the White House. Dr. Paul is the ONLY person who can save America, and if any of you had more than just a bagel for an IQ, you would know that already. Instead, you useless bunch of sheeple are content with the OFFICIAL VERSION OF THE TRUTH instead of finding out for yourself what’s really going on. The truth is, you’re just afraid of what Dr. Paul (PBUH) will do after he is elected and RESTORES THE CONSTITUTION to this country.
Not only that, but Ron Paul has an eighteen inch boner. You heard me right, I SAID AN EIGHTEEN INCH BONER. Don’t you have any idea what he could do for this country? We haven’t had that kind of cockmeat in the White House since James Garfield, and there’s no telling what he might have accomplished if he hadn’t been shot by that damned frog lawyer.
I came down here to try to educate you bunch of nitwits, but I can tell already that I’m not getting anywhere with you, and your understanding of the truth is about as shaky as Michael J. Fox after a Venti Frappuccino.
That fucking does it. When Dr. Paul gets elected, every last one of you is going to pay. EVERY.FUCKING.LAST.ONE.OF.YOU.
Bite me, Mr. Goldstein! You fucking went to a Rockies game didn’t you. Or you were having some fun some way. Leaving us blogging alone. Outrageous!
When the global warmists take over baseball will be one of the many, many sports that are banned. The crack of the bat brings the roar of the crowd which is nothing more than tens of thousands of walking pollution factories starting up. People, I’m talking about people you dunce! When the global warmists are in charge anything that causes heavy breathing will be banned. Anything! The Earth hangs in the balance. Sacrifices must be made to save Mother Gaia.
My guess, Matt, is that Jeff’s pissed about being systematically ignored by the powers that be, and probably most hurtfully by other PajamasMedia outlets, since he’s finally been able to return to blogging. As one unaccustomed to a large readership, except when I’ve posted on Jeff’s site, I can say that while I’m gratified by the readers and their comments, I sometimes wonder why I’m so infrequently linked, even when I’m right on top of something that they are subsequently talking about, and in my view, Jeff’s contributions have been stellar since he’s come back full time. I have the luxury of not depending on my writing for my daily bread, but Jeff does not. And as the armadillo hasn’t danced yet, he’s not even been able finally to put to rest the incident that caused his absence.
Of course, I might just be talking out of my ass. It wouldn’t be the first time–just ask the Newshoggers people. But I can understand from where he’s coming.
I hope this is not the final goodbye, great things have happen since I stumbled upon it. One thing after finding protein wisdom my hair has grown back, or is that because I stopped shaving my head? Coincidence, maybe, either way it is by far my favorite site.
You guys do realize that Corn’s picture keeps popping up on the ‘jama’s sidebar, right? And that he was on board from the beginning, with a great big wet kiss of welcome? Some hoaxes take a bit of time to unravel. “The company you keep”, etc.
Dan – Please tell us this is not true, some not-so-elaborate hoax, elegant in its simplicity, designed to make me want to smash my Treo against the nearest rock.
The way I feel about quitting something is that a real man just quits without saying anything. You just quit. Disappear. Allah did this better than anyone, and look how people begged him to return.
Since this post is not April 1, I guess that Jeff’s leaving PJM, not leaving PW.
“It is typically published on the occasion of the honoree’s retirement, sixty-fifth birthday, or other notable anniversary in his or her career.”
Do our Festschriften have to refer to the first anniversary of this event? Or can we write about something else -say, the first time we actually saw the armadillo dance?
I can’t say, JD. I haven’t emailed yet, and I don’t want to bother him at this moment. I’m just going to PayPal him some scratch so that he can buy a bottle of something to mull it with.
I didn’t ask about you, Pabs, ’cause I know from experience I can find you anywhere (that’s not a shot, just an expression of my experience with blogs).
Also, outside of Jeff or Ric Locke, there’s no one who has more regard for self than me. In the immortal words of Zaphod Beeblebrox, “If there’s anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.”
“It’s mostly scorn and disgust, timmy, you aren’t worth getting angry over. Have no idea where I will go if this is for real, might have to give blogging a shot myself.
I would be interested to see where timb or actus…er, shine, would go next. Alphie ended up drifting around Jules Crittenden’s site or Patterico’s if I remember correctly.
MJ, I’ve commented on your blog before and, alas, my comment was ignored. It was in an area of your expertise and I thought you could answer it. Later, I got that answer here on PW.
But, put this is “blogger” prospective: full time work, part-time school, three kids, including a 2 month old infant. Time to craft award winning blog entries is time I won’t be able to spend on boring clerk work and learning about “Business Associations”
I was kidding, but I rocked out to “Battleship Chains” as a high school kid.
Do you ever see Michael Stipe and spit at him for being a lefty tree hugger. In my mind you do, cackling all the way about “memes”, “narratives”, and making little Mikey cry with the sarcasm so evident on these pages. Although, you both hate Dan Rather, so maybe I should picture you bonding with him over bourbons at a local watering hole?
You want to talk someone who takes himself a mite too seriously…Michael wins that award going away.
Hey, you where many people could go. Phil Carter has an excellent blog at inteldump.com that does fine work on strategy and military issues. It’s less political and more “inside baseball”, but he’s a smart fellow.
“Do you ever see Michael Stipe and spit at him for being a lefty tree hugger. In my mind you do, cackling all the way about “memesâ€Â, “narrativesâ€Â, and making little Mikey cry with the sarcasm so evident on these pages.”
That imagination of yours is part of your problem, timmy. Stipe is actually a casual friend with whom I have shared a couple of beers, although it has been awhile. Athens has changed quite a bit over the years and the old crowd don’t hang out like they used to.
Imagination is a problem…..from Edmund Burke to Robert Taft to Goldwater to Nixon to Reagan to Rove. Never has the worldview of the conservative been so well enunciated.
Anyway, B Moe, it should be obvious the only thing I know about Athens is a Todd Snider song and “What’s the frequency, Kenneth”. I make no grand claims to the contrary.
It’s funny that I try to engage your sense of you humor, and you just refuse to allow it. It’s what I love about you, B Moe, although Pablo is way more kooky. Did you catch his comment on the “root causes” thread about how Islamic folks hate us because of the jihad. “Always have, always will.”
That just cracked me up.
Anyway, looking forward to your next “listen to me you young man, Islam is no laughing matter” comment
Wow, timmah. It’s rare to see someone take someone else’s words and so totally twist them out of their intended meaning. At least you didn’t put those words in quotes. You see, the original statement was:
That imagination of yours is part of your problem, timmy.
That kind of crap is the reason no one bothers to try to discern when you’re attempting humor.
Yes, B Moe, the spitting was absurdist, you dolt. You frequent this blog, but only absurd comments from Jeff and Dan?
I know, on a serious note, that we can all shred a tear for that prick in Islamabad got to meet Allah today. Uprisings in THAT country scare the living f=ck out of me
tim, there are a couple of times I’ve gone off on you. I don’t recall the circumstances, but I’m sorry anyway. Whatever the importance of PW has been to you, it’s evident that it’s been important. Contradiction certainly has its place in the PW ecosystem, assuming that it’s still here. But I wonder whether you couldn’t please tone it down for a bit till we figure out whether Jeff’s coming back. It’s a simple matter of respect. I’m asking as a favor.
I really hope that Jeff is not hanging up the spikes. There are not many, if any, on the more libertarian/conservative side that interest me. This really would be a bad thing, for the internet.
I second Dan’s comment. There will be other times and other places for timb spanking. I’m a little bit more concerned as to whether or not my adopted outlet for unbridled lunacy laced with critical thought is about to be wrenched from my grasping hands.
Dan? Because silence will bring him back? Or, because more people rending their garments will convince him this is profitable?
If Jeff doesn’t know that the regulars at this site like him and need his opinions to help make sense (and fun of) the world of news and politics, then no amount of crying is going to convince him to return.
Nonetheless, I’m afraid of Scotsmen, so I will restrict my postings to pleading with Jeff to decide to continue to blog.
A quick digression, Brian, the first time you spank me will be the first. I now return you to the faithful begging the powerful to return.
If Jeff does shut down PW, it’ll mean all the work on the new platform was for nought — and that I’ll have to cut short the hiatus I’m taking from my own blog.
As for the timbot, it’s obvious that all that stuff away from here that takes up all his time that he can’t spare to write his own blog, still somehow doesn’t manage to add up to a life.
Not because silence will bring him back, tim. But if you were mourning something close to you, I like to think that I would have the decency not to cast raspberries in your way. In other words, I don’t think that this is the thread to jack.
And more, people who’ve visited, perhaps never donated (though I’ll admit that I do so seldom, but not never, to places where I disagree) might contemplate that whatever their view of the shortcomings of the host and his visitors, one could at least post without having their genius or idiocy, or both, or neither, held for “moderation” or nuked outright, without extreme provocation, and with reasons given always. There are numerous sites where that’s simply not the case, some belonging to very high-profile bloggers, whom, you’d think, would be above that kind of censorship.
Ah! but there you and McGehee must have a lot in common, insofar as neither of you, obviously, is in it for the affirmation. And that goes for my blog, as well.
Did you catch his comment on the “root causes†thread about how Islamic folks hate us because of the jihad. “Always have, always will.â€Â
Timmah!, if you were any more obtuse, you’d be a cinder block.
Karl, that’d be great, but everytime he starts getting spam he just closes his account and starts another, so I’ve no idea who he is now. BTW, thanks for all the fish.
I cannot imagine going through all of the transfer over to WordPress, to then just close up shop, unless something really bad happened, which obviously, I pray has not happened.
I think it is timmah’s fault. We managed to survive Phoenician in a Time of Romans, semenlickerleo, actus, alphie, heet, etal., but timmah might prove to be one of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocaplypse.
Does anyone besides me think its suspicious that Dan Collins hasn’t posted anything above this post? Personally, I hope Mr. Goldstein is in St. Louis tonight. And if he is and you know his cell phone number you should be able to find out. Hmmmm?
klrfz1,
If I had been in contact with Jeff, I would let you know. Since I haven’t, and I’m to confine my posts to the weekends, and since I don’t particularly feel it’s appropriate to supercede a post such as this, I’m not going to post.
But I agree, it does arouse suspicion.
I wish that I could say that I felt as though I were 100% absolved for having tried to keep an oar in, but I fear that in some respects I may have hastened his departure. Completely inadvetently. I could never be Jeff. People came here for Jeff. I diluted the product.
Maybe that Big Score (in anticipation of which Jeff has been cultivating a reputation for honesty and trustworthiness lo these many years) has finally come through and he’s now ensconced on the Costa del Sol under an assumed name, drinking Laphroaig on the rocks while watching the topless water-skiers carve the azure sea.
Dan, I would expect that Jeff would have told you to not post if he didn’t want you to post. The fact that he continued to allow you (and me and the others) to post here when he could have easily used the transition to wordpress as a point to ease us out strengthens my belief that he didn’t want us to stop. However, I agree with you on not posting until he says more about what’s going on.
Just like I joined the chess club in high school to meet chicks.
Trust me, the party chicks were on the debate team. The drama club were the divas (they put the cheerleaders to shame for sheer ‘tude) and the homelier ones ended up in Home Ec or FFA.
So, I sent Jeff a goodbye gift of $60 to buy a bottle of something good to mull it over with. I’m not saying any of you should do the same, but perhaps if we get him drunk enough, he’ll suffer retrograde amnesia. So . . .
Anyway, Jeff, in case you’ve forgotten, you’re loved and admired (and hated with a passion) by lots of people out here in cyberspace, and that means that, more than most of us, you’re alive.
Dan, Timbs only form of daily ablution is PW. Which somehow makes Timb piss poor. I recommend changing the name of your blog to “Timb”, then the “piss poor…” statement will be crystal clear to all visitors. Well, it’s an idea on the table anyway.
Come on, Jeff. Israel is surrounded by Islamists, war is on the horizon, western civilization’s in retreat and the presidential elections are coming up. This is not the time to cede the field to the relativists. Please think this over. Take the rest of the summer off and recharge you batteries. We need you.
I don’t think Jeff is gone, for long. Too much unfinished bidness, to pull out now. Especially after the refurbish job, and the nascent pub thingy.
As a very small-time short-term blog follower, and very-seldom-commenter, I’ll say that I’ve spent more time reading Jeff’s blog than any other on the Web, and I doubt that there’s any other out there like it. None, that I’ve found.
Jeff, you’ve strained youself with your battles, and I’ve noticed your struggles with posts, lately. The flow isn’t always there, as it was. A writer has to have flow, or the thing…suffers. Will time off help? Maybe, but that’s what siphoned your readers away, before. As far as the Malkins and Allahs, easy come, easy go; they can’t touch your style of writing. Yours is many levels above theirs. Just…don’t post anything that doesn’t come out easily, naturally.
Take a 7th inning stretch; but don’t forget the rest of the game~!
david, timmah, and cokane (cute) cannot even allow people to say goodbye without being assholes.
I was really hoping that when I logged on tonight, that Dan would have posted something that said this was all one really bad practical joke. Such is not the luck.
Jeff, I adore everything you write. If this is taking too much of your time, I hope you will continue to post online perhaps in a different format. If you are really hanging it up, I want you to know that I will really miss reading your work.
Look, you want to troll a thread like this, you accuse us of being pitiful sycophants, fan-bois, jilted man-crush wannabes…. I mean, it is a target the size of the fucking Moon, and this is the best you morons can come up with?
I swear to God I would gargle buckshot before I went through life that fucking stupid.
Jeff, if you quite this thing, then Sullivan and Greenwald win! Don’t let the Sodomites, er, Inverts, I mean, people whose love may …not that there’s anything wrong with…Okay, forget that, howabout this: if you stop this thing, then there is the very real chance that a conservative leaning and reasonably educated white male, might, at 11:39 PM on a Thursday, and, in a moment of severe ideological incoherence (aggrevated by a Smutty Nose IPA, a Foster’s Ale and two generous glasses of Cab from the 5 liter tap) and, lacking the confidence provided by one of your inspired rants, actually consider that a HILLARY CLINTON victory in 2008 might be something that this country could live with (“Let the Dems step up and deal with Islamic terror…they’ll learn a thing or two and come to appreciate the unique qualities that make this nation”…”…sense of responsibility”…”after all, we’re all Americans”…damn!, that wine’s going to stain the carpet!)”. Do you you think you could live with yourself if that happened even one time, Jeff? If so, then I can only say that you’ll have a thing or two to think about while you’re trying to find the direction to Mecca as you prostrate yourself for the third prayer of the day!
We could, as a public service, show these pathetic little retards how to properly troll, that is if you maudlin fucking psychophants can stop crying and sober up enough to give your mommy instructions on what to type for you. Or is the thought of trying to come up with something original without the guidance of the Mighty Goldstein too much for your shriveled little neocon heart to bear?
I’m mostly a lurker but I have posted occasionally. I think he means it, although I do hope not. There is a toll to be paid and sometimes you just need to hang it up rather than beat your head against the wall. If so, best of luck Jeff and Godspeed. You will be missed.
david, timmah, and cokane (cute) cannot even allow people to say goodbye without being assholes.”
Hey, JD, you can kiss my ass. It’s like you excel at being silly. You have posted 6 times on this post without saying ONE thing new. You miss Jeff and you don’t like people who disagree. Get over your bad self. Sorry I made fun of your B Moe. Do you have a little crush on B Moe? Pablo? ‘Cause I haven’t taken a shot at Dear Leader. Could you provide of list of commenters who are out of bounds? I just want to avoid getting impotent drive byes from your two bit, insurance adjusting, SAAB driving twittery.
Maybe he just went back-packing with Chris Clarke and Ilyka. You know, commisserating with each other about how they just don’t get the respect they deserve … and Chris is all like, ‘hey, we should start a new group-blog, just the three of us’ … and Ilyka says, ‘yeah, we’ll show ‘em’ …
Or maybe Chris is guiding Jeff through the wilds of Oregon to check out that piece of property Mr. G’s had his eye on …
Then again, you might just see something like this:
The “The I’m Back Post” Post
What the hell was all that? I said “later,” didn’t I ?
[Now, of course, he'll have to come up with something else.]
timmah – Is it not possible for you trolls to act like you have even a shred of decency? Yuck it up, fuckwad. Coming from a group that thinks a funeral is a good place to have a campaign event, it should not surprise me that you do not have enough basic manners to avoid being an ass in this thread. You have now graduated into the heet category, which is not something to be proud of.
Just got back from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Not to spoil anything, but — as in the series — He Who Is Not To Be Named really needs to be named. And there are few as good as Jeff Goldstein at it.
If you’re sitting in some highly computerized, multi-function chair that flies around, or opens beers, or does some stuff while you’re down there in your underground lair, please consider that you may well be the only blogger on the interwebtubenets who is capable (not to mention one of the few inclined to) of discussing the semantic, semiotic, and sociotropic nature of the threat America faces.
This may not mean anything at all, but last evening, just at dusk, I spied high in the western sky, illuminated by the rays of the setting sun, what appeared to be a lawn chair suspended from a hundred or more multi-colored helium balloons. As they drifted across the orange-streaked horizon, propelled inexorably by the breeze toward the Atlantic, I could just make out a tiny figure seated in the chair, its face almost totally obscured by huge aviator glasses. But I swear — I SWEAR — for a moment it looked like an armadillo.
Shouldn’t it concern us that Republicans are constantly talking about how people will all wise up when the next terrorist attack at home comes?
I mean, they really seem to be looking forward to it, and they take great delight in the thought that, by God, people will see things differently when it happens.
They relish the thought. They hunger for that terrorist attack they need to save their Party.
I, Not Atrios, think Democrats would be wise to talk on TV about how the last thing we need is to put people in power who have such a stake in having terrorists attack Americans.
Dan – That fucking wanker quit being relevant a long time ago, at least outside of his echo-chamber. Duncan and his troglodytes are a perfect example of what happens when all you have is vitriol.
For JD, who needs another hobby. I was perusing the site of the good professor and noted he commented on the passing of PW. Jeff, of course, had to respond. Here’s the response from 10:21 last evening:
Jeff said…
Are you serious? You hardly even made a blip on my radar screen, professor.
I answered all of your comments, and offered on several occasions to debate you on the issues you’ve raised.
You, in turn, ran away.
And who can blame you? As I intimated in an earlier comment, you are the intellectual equivalent of a spot of bad Mexican food: predictable going down, and given to repeating on those who make the mistake of swallowing what you have to offer.
The idea that your feckless, flaccid, and pretentious mental droopings had anything whatever to do with my site — which has been around since 2001 — shutting down for a bit, is laughable.
And that you could, for a moment, believe you hold that kind of intellectual power is a testament to your own delusions.
Face it, professor: maybe those evals you’ve been getting aren’t the product of dumb undergraduates not grasping your genius.
Instead, maybe they just see you for what you are: a tired and remarkably average scholar who is trying so desperately to find an edginess that it would come as no surprise to me were you show up to class one day wearing an earring and parachute pants — and dropping a little bit of Maya Angelou while you tap on some kettle drums.
Christ, what an ego!
10:21 PM
See, like Christ or King Arthur or MacArthur or Shiat Ali, Jeff says he will return. You can all rest easier. He will be back at some point. He needs traffic and links, like Dan pointed out and he’s been a busy guy lately. Give him a break and he will be back.
She who will not be named is now posting Mr Collins’ work contact information. I suggest that the Lane County sheriff’s office be flooded with complaints about the oft convicted stalker.
Okay, joke’s over. I contributed some of my hard-earned American credit to getting Jeff a laptop so I could guarantee my daily dose of literate snark, and by golly I’m going to get my credit-card’s worth. So while this has been an interesting experiment, I now require a 10,000-character meditation on intentionality, followed by a snark about Michael Moore. So let’s get cracking. Okay?
I’m really not supposed to comment, for legal reasons, about the Frisch affair, but as it’s been a year and the legal process moves at a glacial pace, let me say this:
Frisch is still, a year later, posting on me and my family, despite restraining orders and injunctions (note: I have no involvement in the Frisch Timeline site or the Don’t Hire Deb Frisch site]. She’s now taken to posting the personal info about Dan at one of her sites.
As I wrote earlier — without trying to come back ostensibly — I suggest that you call the Lane County sheriff’s office: (541) 682-4150. Cross-state jurisdiction has long been the problem — the law simply isn’t set up as yet to deal expeditiously with the kinds of harassment Frisch continues to mete out, though progress on that front has been made — so in the mean time, it’s probably best to keep her local jurisdiction aware of her continuing efforts to harass people by way of the computer / phone.
Using the phone, I believe, is something law enforcement is more prepared to deal with.
Frisch is a repulsive creature, and I’m tired of keeping my mouth shut while I wait for the courts to work things out.
david –
You’re no longer welcome here. Don’t post again, please.
How can someone so obviously narcissistic and deranged continue to find on-line venues that allow her to vent filth and attempt to ruin people’s lives because she doesn’t like their political views? The psychotic selfishness of this person is beyond comprehension.
No one, NO ONE deserves to put up with this just because of their personal viewpoint.
david: maybe next time you’ll attmpt to take into consideration past history before you make a complete asshat of yourself with your comments. Although I’m not holding my breath. Please, let the door hit you on the ass as you leave.
Jeff, you have my deepest condolences for this abomination to your family. Dan, hang in there. You still have friends who will fight for you.
Thanks, guys. Appreciate the heads up.
I’m going to get my local authorities involved, and the legal department here. I think I might cause considerably more trouble for SHMNBN than she’ll cause for me.
FWIW, you have my support too, Jeff. Take care of yourself.
And let’s face it david was always the most loathesome, and downright useless, troll that I’ve witnessed here. The good “perfesser ummm” may be manning (is that the correct verbage in regards to a womens studies prof?) that role now, though. So TTFN david, ya little scamp.
In addition to phoning the relevant local law enforcement authorities, I wonder whether the blogs identified in the timeline need to be brought to Google/Blogspot’s attention and shut down. On the one hand, she should not be permitted to violate a restraining order. OTOH, if they are shut down, she’ll just start new ones… and trhe violation of a court order may be better taken up with the judge who issued it. Just something to consider/discuss.
Does Jeff have to use his lawyer in order to bring it to the judge’s attention? Is there a mechanism to do so without using the attorney ‘of record’ (with his attendant bill)?
Jeff,
If I wanted to buy 15 minutes of your attorney’s time as “a gesture of solidariety” (’cause I’m really “into” that), how much would it run?
I guess I should note that Frisch has recently taking to making “jox”– and posting pictures — of the dead child of a blog commenter on another site.
In addition to this, she’s made “jox” about the epileptic wife of another blogger. Something about her being “twitchy” — and wondering what it must be like to “hump” or “phuque” her.
This is what used to teach children and work as a consultant in decision science for the FBI.
And yes, I’ve been dealing with this stuff CONSTANTLY, which has caused me to take time off, lose readers, etc.
Early on, I had a lot of support from other bloggers. But lately, not so much. Loss of traffic has meant lost revenue.
Not everyone has abandoned me entirely, though. So let me take the time now to say thanks to, among the bigger bloggers, Glenn Reynolds, for continuing to keep me afloat with his shows of support and encouragement.
Frisch has once again — with no provocation — stepped up her assault on me, my site, my family and my friends.
Which means I am simply going to redouble me efforts to put a stop to it.
My God, Jeff, I just read through some of that stuff, including the court document for the permanant injunction. That woman needs to be in a psychiatric hospital getting serious care for whatever teh craziness possesses her. I can’t possibly imagine what your family must have gone through over the last year.
Hey, JD, [attempting to change subject from the HER] do you ever listen to Greg Garrison. BTW, this obviously has nothing to do with the thread, but I wanted to ask JD a question. I apologize to the rest of you for the OT question
sorry that post was meant for before I left to file and I forgot to check the most recent posts. Prior to Jeff’s comments I wanted to ask JD that question. In light of Jeff’s most recent comments, it sounds like I was running interference for her. I don’t want folks to think that. Good luck to you, Jeff
Re: 191 — Okay, I didn’t understand what was going on so that comes across as being in wretchedly poor taste, for which I apologize. For what it’s worth, Jeff, your site is so wonderfully quirky that I assume everything here is a complex jest until proven otherwise — and that’s a good thing. So please, accept my apology and my support.
Yes, timb, I do, from time to time. He is not really my cup of tea, but it passes the time. Right now, I am trying to get a $10,000+ property tax bill reassessed, so I am more than a little cranky, as you may have noticed. I would rather have to deal with property taxes than teh krazy that Jeff is dealing with.
Jeff – If there is anything that we can do, other than to patiently await your return, do not hesitate to let us know. Those that have stood by you should be remembered, and those that did not were not real friends to begin with.
SWMNBN reminds me of my son when he was about 4 years old. He continually would launch himself screaming into the pool despite the fact that he couldn’t swim and Dad was going to have to fish him off the bottom. My wife, a Red Cross certified lifeguard and instructor, told me to count to ten after he had submerged until I yanked him out of the water.
He never did that again.
Unfortunatly it appears that you (and everybody else involved in this enterprise) have to count to a gazillion before teh genius gets the message.
Alas, the injunction is of now just preliminary. In civil trials, it takes a long time to come to a final judgment. In the meantime, the monster just continues apace.
Jeff – just know that there are a number of us that are thinking of you and your family, and this bizarro fiasco that you are being forced to endure. I know that we would do anything within our limited powers to help out, just ask.
Dan – Likewise to you, as apparently teh krazy has got you in her sights now. Do not hesitate to ask.
TW : 24,234,021 bars. And I think I had a beer in almost every one when I was drinking.
Jeff, I too wish to apologize for my flippant remark earlier.
This is a serious matter and I, too, believed–okay, hoped–this post was all an elaborate jest.
If you can call to mind the image of Cindy Lou Who standing there in her night gown with her teddy bear dragging on the floor as she watches the Grinch try to make off… well, I’m sad to see you go, Jeff. Here’s hoping you make it back… again.
timmah – We recently purchased a home (which I invited you and your family to on the 4th), and the taxes were estimated at $6800 annually. Our old home was $3800. When our property tax bill came, it was for $10,250 and some change.
There are times when I think I’d like to take the universe by the throat and slap it around — but I know the universe is bigger than me and can easily beat the snot out of me if I tried it.
I think the difference between me and people like SWMNBN is that I don’t want the universe to beat the snot out of me. Whatever illusion of my importance it might generate would be dwarfed by the pain and humiliation of having to mop up all that snot.
Because you just know the universe ain’t gonna clean it up.
Jeff, you’ve got my full support. I only wish that I was in some sort of position to actually contribute to all of this. It truly sucks being a starving graduate student living on stipends.
Alright, this mess is really beginning to piss me off. That fucking lunatic is fucking up my enjoyment of the internet. I am no lawyer, and no fan of the plaintiff bar, but since her actions are having a direct and foreseeable negative impact on my enjoyment of life’s simple pleasures, isn’t there some kind of action that could be brought against her? How about a class action suit for those that have been denied their enjoyment of Jeff’s musings, due to her deliberate psychotic warbling?
In addition, I cannot fucking believe that she is so full of teh krazy that she now wants to increase the number of people she is shitting on by dragging Dan Collins into the mix.
There is an old saying about people not being given more than they are capable of handling, and I am confident that Jeff and Dan will deal with her decisively, if not swiftly. But dammit, that krazy bitch is screwing with my/our internet experience, and there must be something we can do.
SWMNBN has demonstrated, time and again, that she’s building a two story house with half of her tools missing. She’s simply not operating in the same reality that the rest of the world understands. If she weren’t such a vile, vicious little weasal she would be worthy of pity and intervention. As it stands, she will have to be stomped on hard (legally) before any “healing” takes place.
You JUST bought the house and taxes went up that much? Must suck to be rich? . Geez, the tax on my house is like 1200 (maybe I should re-check that). I feel like a major pauper compared to you, JD.
Remind me to sue you once I pass the bar. No one should have more than me, which may explain a lot, because almost everyone does!
I want the fuckin’ ‘dillo to dance again, and this mangy faux intellectual hippie that dry humps concrete poles is keeping the little shelled fella’ from getting his groove on. Maybe we could bring a class action on behalf of disaffected four-legged creatures with shells, that like to guzzle tequila, gnaw on ’shrooms, and play with strippers, all while wearing a sombrero, a bandolier, and a western holster, complete with pearl handled 6-shooters. Keeping the ‘dillo under wraps cannot be healthy.
Them ‘dillos got rights, ya know. Maybe Silkie could channel the spirit of the ‘dillo for us.
timb – 3 months. We are hardly rich, we just spend our money wisely. We bought a home from a bank for $xxx,xxx, and after a few improvements, the appraised value is $275,000 more than what we paid. Good investment.
Unfortunately, the court system certainly is taking its own sweet time grinding what’s-her-name into dust. I don’t envy Jeff at all, having to put up with this crap.
BTW, JD, good luck on the property taxes. Ours quadrupled two years ago(?!) but we were able to get it reassessed and lowered significantly based on a then recent refinance appraisal.
Jim in KC – The appraisal is what is going to kill us, as it came back $275,000 than we paid. We are going to argue that the home was on the market for almost a year, and we paid what it was worth, regardless of what it is appraised at. We actually got it for a steal, but I cannot see how their assessment can be so much higher than what the market would bear, since nobody would pay their assessed value when it was on the market.
In the end, I will take whatever steps I can take, and if not successful, I will just take comfort in the new homestead, incredible schools, great neighbors, and great neighborhood.
JD, you got an appraisal when you bought it that said it was worth $275,000 more than you paid for it, or that’s how the county assessed it? If it’s the first, you’re likely screwed. If you have an appraisal from when you bought it that’s more in line with what you actually paid, that might help.
Our appraisal was probably a bit low compared to the home’s actual value, but they were really only interested in establishing that it was worth enough to support the loan we were getting. Didn’t say that on the appraisal, though, which made it a useful tool. We took it in to the county and said, “Look, these guys said it was worth $x nine months ago, so what crack are you smoking to value it at $y today? And can I have some?”
Jim – It is the first scenario. The appraisal when we purchased the home was significantly higher than what we paid, and after some improvements, we had it appraised again, which was not quite as high as the assessed value.
What gets me is that it is supposed to be a market driven assessment, and the market price is what we were able to pay for it, not what the assessor thinks it should have been sold for. If they do not buy that argument, I am fucked. $10,000 a year in property taxes is a bite in the ass, but like I said, something we will gladly pay, if we must, in exchange for a good education for our daughter, and a comfortable standard of living.
Given your financial state, timmeh, had you considered getting all your pals together — you know, like use the Internets and the Democrat party or something — and forcing envy-reduction-by-State using simple majority pressure? I bet Hilary would run with that, and I KNOW Edwards would. And we ALL know the world would be a better place, what with forced distribution being so compassionate and all.
So go for it. We could call it the Bread and Circuses Plan to End My Coveting Your Shit. I doubt the Constitution would put up much of a fight these days.
Speaking of compassion, Jeff, you’re still too nice a guy. Go forth and doeth to others. And to the rest of your slackers, send Jeff (or Mrs. Jeff) something. I agree that moonbat has wrecked my Internets pleasure and I want to get this particular neocon back ASAP.
Jeff, I’m so sorry to hear about this. I enjoy your blog including your guest bloggers tremendously. I’ve commented once or twice, but mostly I’ve just read avidly.
This woman is building such bad karma, I’m cosmically terrified. She and Eliot Stein need to have their own island, preferably as barren as their atrophied minds.
Best of luck to you and Dan. If there is anything I can do (blog-wise) for either of you, please let me know.
Jeff-
Lomgtime lurker here, love your blog and read it almost every day. Come back soon, you are an AWESOME writer! I really liked your thoughts on “diversity” contributing to racism in this country- I think that was after the Supreme Court decision on racial quotas in schools. Spot on…
Oh, Great, now SWMNBN has posted an E-Mail that she sent to the Shelburne, VT township office asking for information about Dan:
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:19 PM
To: bmarcher@shelburnevt.org
Subject: Contact Form Request
“I’ve been harassed by rightwing nutcases on the internet for a year and today I traced one of the ringleaders to vermont teddy bear company.
dan collins, an employee there, talks about cockslapping his opponents.
not very good publicity for the teddy bare company!”
This woman is a virus. I wrote Betty Marcher and explained, in very polite language, the history with SWMNBN and directed her to the database and the copy of the court injunction and gave her a link to SWMNBN’s website to request that her information be removed.
My thanks again for the timely heads up, and thanks to JD for the phone call. I’ve got an appointment at 10 am tomorrow to formally file my complaint, and then it will be faxed to the local authorities to serve her. I find this even stranger, because I tried to give SWMNBN good advice, and have been less vituperative towards her, given my opinion of her psychological and addiction problems, than many. Now I’m committed to making this a significantly larger problem for her than it will be for me, and I have no doubt that I’ll be able so to do.
As luck would have it, I am also invited to a wedding in Seattle in August, so I may be able to present myself to the local authorities in person.
Jeff, My experience as an Assistant State’s Attorney was that you have to make the local authorities (where the respondent is located)aware of the RO first and foremost – from there it is a crap shoot – but at least you have done the first thing you can. I wish I could help more – if you think of anything I can do, e-mail me.
I also had a meeting this afternoon with the legal department, who made a formal draft of my complaint. So, all I’ll have to do is swear out on the document and sign it, and it will become part of her illustrious record. I may also have a lead on where she expects next to be employed, and found what is likely some family information, though it’s my determination to leave them out of it. As usual, teh doctor seems not to have any conception of the possibility that someone else’s chops and resources might be superior to her own. Thanks, Zelda and all, for your good graces.
Rick – Thanks ! They have one of my neighbors houses listed for $850K+, which will not help me out, since theirs is 2000 sf smaller than ours. :-(
My biggest concern is that is we dispute the valuation, the assessor will likely come back out, and will see the improvements made since their last physical inspection, and increase their assessment even more.
What bothers me is that this property was for sale, and nobody bought it until we came along, and negotiated with the bank. I do not want to drive down the value of my neighbors homes, but am I crazy to think that the value of our home, considering the time and price on the market, is the price we paid for it? I think another big stumbling block will be that the home was originally built for a Home-A-Rama by a local custom builder, and somebody paid in the neighborhood of the assessed value, 4 years ago. However, they went bankrupt, and the property returned to the bank.
I may just have to bend over and take it, like Paris at a frat party.
SWMNBN has a personality disorder that thrives on conflict. Unless she’s making someone else’s life a nightmare, she’s not “happy.” Unfortunately, the fact that people fight back against her makes her feel important. OTOH, not fighting back isn’t much of an option either. She’ll strike until she gets a reaction. Kinda like a terrorist, ne?
What a sad, sad life she’s had and will continue to have. She needs to be committed to an institution, but judging on how hard it is to involuntarily commit someone (VATech shooter), it won’t happen.
One can only hope that… oh hell, I shouldn’t say it. But you all know what I mean.
Jeff, I visited PW from time to time and have always liked it. I think you’re a great writer, even though sometimes your stuff is a bit cerebral for me. I hope you can put all these things to rest for good and things can go back to normal.
Just got off of the phone with a cousin who works for a major law firm, who recommends that I make the local authorities a part of a civil complaint, since they seem not very keen to apprehend her. Interesting prospect. Sounds time consuming, but I may have to go there. Probably not till I’m back in VT towards the end of August.
Jeff, I wish you and your family all the best as you continue to deal with this. As Frisch expands her threats/libel to include more and more people, the chances of her being shut down will rise considerably (I hope).
Dan – Next time you talk to your cousin, could you find out if we, as a community, would have any standing to bring a collective action against tehfuckingkrazybulldykebroadwhosenameishallnevermention ? There is bound to be some plaintiff lawyer that would be willing to delve into this area.
The only problem would be that she, by her stated word, is acting intentionally, which would preclude coverage under nearly any insurance policy, and likely is judgment-proof. But, if it could just get her to quit fucking with people and things that we enjoy, it would be worth it.
With the broadening of what constitutes injury and harm these days, that should not be a problem. I would think that intentional infliction of emotional distress would be a possibility as well.
Why did I think she was a bull dyke? Somebody married her ?!?! Jeebus freaking Christ. The thought of that is positively chilling. See, there she goes chilling free speech.
I think the world has quit turning. Ace describes her as a lesbian, though clearly not the good kind of lip-stick lesbian, or bi-sexual hotties that we all love. The image of her straddling that lamp pole, bumping and grinding, is likely to be seared, seared I tell you, into my memory. Must go hit golf balls, and my opponents lying about their handicaps will briefly take my mind off of this travesty.
Gee, thanks for that. Can you tell me, by dumping Professional Strength Liquid Plumber into one ear, will that wipe away the image that you two have just presented?
If you were bedding teh insanedoublekrazymakesmichaelmoorelooksaneandjeanninegarafalolookcutebulldyke, would you be able to “pay off”. No money shots with that thing in the same area code !
BJ – You should ask timmah, as he has far more experience with things going in one ear, and immediately out the other.
Though to give your question its due, Liquid Plummer is not likely to be effective. Erasing images of freakygranolawestcoastkrazylesbianprofessors has shown to only be possible by viewing videos of Rosie shaving her back hair.
Well, her former lesbian pseudo-husband with daughter dumped her in the wake of last summer’s events, which caused her to latch ever the more tightly to Jeff, since . . . well, at least she had him, you know? I can’t be held responsible, as a legal matter, for what it is you picture in your mind’s eye. Unless John Edwards becomes president.
If getting the RO enforced is a problem, someone, I don’t know who, just sayin’ someone, like an attorney, might approach the Lane County Sheriff (an elective office) and just obliquely comment on the amount of financial support there is in the blogosphere for law enforcement, ’cause we really like it when the law is enforced.
Oh, you can’t be held responsible, eh? What about if I HIRED JOHN EDWARDS TO SUE YOUR ASS FOR LOSS OF MENTAL TRANQUILLITY? CHANNEL, HE WILL CHANNEL MY DISTRESS FOR THE JURY AND YOU WILL PAY, COLLINS!
There is a nice and eminently reusable narrative which appears interminably on the Lifetime network (please, don’t ask) that involves the results of failure by the local police to enforce restraining orders.
Far be it from me to suggest the writing up of such a narrative to be submitted to an ace reporter for a cyber stalker’s hometown paper in order to influence the police to take a more active interest in enforcement. ‘Cause LE is just never, ever responsive to bad publicity. ‘Cept when they are.
JD, while the internet has provided some wonderful opportunities to expand legal theories, there is no tort issue in what you describe. More to the point, what would have to gain? Lawsuits are about money and civil suits compel folks to do something only because it might cost more money NOT to do it. In Jeff’s case, there is no money and only a contempt citation. Judge’s will throw people in jail for that (ask Judith Miller), but they reluctant to enforce civil actions with “criminal” penalties. For instance, Mrs. Miller was easily jailed because she was obstructing a criminal investigation.
Dan’s cousin has a great idea for Dan and Jeff, but I doubt one locality’s court can make another’s act unless there is mutual good will (welcome to the downside of Federalism). With that said, soon her level of harassment could rise to a criminal complaint. For instance, does Oregon have a stalking law? If so, could it apply?
Seriousness aside and remembering you’re all small government conservatives who seeking governmental remedies, maybe you can have the President declare her an enemy combatant. First, She’s clearly as competent as the dolts in the UK, who couldn’t light gasoline. Secondly, she’s bonkers and hates us for our freedom. Thirdly, PW might be the last place on Earth where George Bush could see 200 people who support him gathered in one place.
He freed Scooter; he could jail her!
Returning from annoying you with my analytical powers, I’m afraid short of some new laws, that there is no tort to solve this loss of consortium problem.
By the way, I was in Carmel for the fireworks, so maybe I passed by your new house? Sounds like you’re right in that you got a fantastic deal, improved the property and are now going to pay the taxes for it. Despite the tax problem, nice business acumen. That’s capitalism at its finest.
(welcome to the downside of Federalism)
Why did I just get a flash of “interstate commerce” right then? I’m not saying “interfering with interstate commerce” or anything. I’m just saying…
To ACTUALLY say it would be “beneath Jeannette”. Who’s Jeannette, Dr. Turing?
tim,
My whole purpose in this is simply to make this expensive for her, psychically and otherwise, without really going out of my way. I’m willing to fulfill all technical requirements for the authorities, and should my cousin decide to assign someone to deal with this pro bono, a lawyer. Emotionally, though, I’m going to treat this as a lark, because I have no expectations. If she’s not punished for this in the short term, I don’t much care. Eventually, she’ll overplay her hand again, and this will be part of the aggregate that buries her.
Dan, it seems as though taking Sinner’s attitude of “ain’t no big thang” is the best punishment. SWMNBN can’t help herself. Eventually, between you and Sinner and Jeff and all of the other people she harasses she’ll be buried from the ‘tubes or spend a lovely stretch in a local prison.
It’s really a shame that Jeff doesn’t have the same opportunities to brush this off. I hope he (legally) crushes her like the crazed bug she is.
Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom has quit blogging again. Since he recently overhauled his site, I suspected that the abrupt, initially unexplained decision had something to do with the nut job and pervert Deborah Frisch. As it turns out, it…
Well, I’ve been a reader here for two years (enjoyed every minute) and never posted a comment. Now I have two in the same thread. Probably because I thought the post was a joke.
Mr. Goldstein, I wish you and yours well and hope you return soon.
It occurs to me that there is a Federal agency designed to handle criminality that crosses state lines. I’d bet there’s something nifty in the Patriot Act, too.
The First Amendment will eventually be usurped by those who espouse their rights to speak over the rights of others not to listen. And then the tyranny of the minority holds sway.
I knew #188 was the work of “the mind that does not sleep” and then a rousing post later a 9:11 (co-inky dink? I think not!) and on 7/11!! (co-inky dink? I think not not!).
So what we have here is a string of 11’s…. which is surely a sign…. the evidence is mounting… JG is alive and well, mostly well… a little pissed off… a little frustrated…. but gloriously poised to mount the alter of “things that are really important and worthy of getting more of”.
Do what you have to do, come back to us soon, we all miss you…
I can’t say more than what has been said but to echo Dan C at bloddy scott (that fritczhldzthbnpqssszzz thingy, man German even reads harshly!!!))…. you really have enlightened me and plus, like, you allow me to, like totally feel smart because, like, I can actually, like, understand that stuff you write…
It’s not a big thang for me myself, so far. It has been for Jeff, and insofar as I care about that it HAS been a big thang for me. He took the steps he has taken reluctantly. Everyone who’s benefitted ought to take notice, and whether they realize it or not, they are legion.
I have nothing against Jeff’s counsel, particularly considering all of the abuse that he’s taken from SWMNBN, but I’m not certain he understands the potential importance of this case to his career.
As far as I know, protective orders are afforded full faith and credit across all jurisdictions, regardless of where they were issued. And in Denver, and probably in Oregon, a violation of a valid restraining order is a separate criminal offense. Not sure about an injunction, but maybe that’s incorporated into the terms of the RO.
No harm, Gracie? What about the loss of revenue that ensues from Jeff not being able to display his mad blogging skillz on a continual basis because he has to keep dealing with a persistent nut job?
OTOH, nameless’s suggestion about “enemy combatant”: hey, that has a nice ring to it. If you add “illegal,” it fits nicely into the Geneva conventions. A little stay at Club Gitmo couldn’t HURT.
I’ve requested that the site administrators leave up the one site she still has leff (as far as I know), so that she can continue to post drunkenly. Please don’t interfere with this.
This is a tremendous loss for me. At first I tossed it off as another drama post. I seem to recall there was a previous one and frankly am surprised that she has prevailed. What more could she do. Nonetheless, Jeff, you have a life to live. I shall miss you. There was no other site that combined an intellectual acumen, metalinguistic and hermeneutic, to even come within a mile of this one. I like Dan and all but for sheer creative and, if you will, cryptic genius there is only one Goldstein. One of the quoted blurblets in the upper left corner alluded to the fact that he thought there was some secret code and half the words were left out. Well, yeah, that was part of the fun. I think that pure genius has been silenced by a reprehensible slag. I weep (Well not really, because I have a cock I slap people with and that keeps me whole in all kinds of weather.) You were the best, Jeff. Never forget that.
I’ve just gotten off of the phone with one of my state reps, asking that he bring a very stringent cyberharrassment bill to the floor when they reconvene next month. It’s the kind of thing that’s his cup of tea. I’m hopeful.
GIRL’S VOICE
He’s sick.
(pause)
My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s
brother’s girlfriend heard from this
guy who knows this kid who’s going
with a girl who saw Jeff pass-out
at 31 Flavors last night. I guess
it’s pretty serious.
This has nothing whatever to do with anyone’s right to speak. I note you didn’t leave a real name, but had you — and had I begun posting accusations that you sexually molest your children all over the place, using your full name and your child’s name, so that search engines could collect and catalog the accusations — I doubt very much you’d be cracking wise from your high horse.
Wow. I’m late to the comment party here, hoping that Jeff was just joking. I’ve only commented a few times, mostly to be a wise-ass and occasionally thump alphoo about the head and shoulders, but I’ve always enjoyed coming here. Jeff, this just sucks, and I hope like hell I never have to deal with a nutcase the way you, Dan, and others are being forced to do. If you come back, it will be none too soon. But, I don’t have to tell you that your life and your family’s well-being is more important than any blog. Just do what you have to do.
And Dan, crank, Darleen, and all the other guest posters, I noticed you guys beating yourselves up regarding the quality of your posts vis-a-vis Jeff’s. Don’t sell yourselves short like that. I’ve always looked at this site as a group effort, with the commenters (minus myself) doing more than their fair share of adding to the content. So, in short, keep it up.
Hey, everybody make it a habit for the nonce to fly over here and click on some ads or something, just to keep the revenues flowing. Who’s up for that?
Your work is absolutely unique, Jeff, and in addition to your brilliance, you have had the bravery to keep going in the face of unprecedented ugliness. I would have folded in minutes. The fact that I’m afraid to post on political matters is in no small measure due to my realization that I don’t have the balls for it. So I respect you all the more for keeping the fight going when people like me are cowering in the corners.
Looks like Emem Obanga (the ADA) needs to review reinstatement of the stalking charge which he dropped in exchange for the period of probation. Busting probation isn’t exactly like busting parole – no “back in the clink for you, sweetie” – but Mr[s]? Obanga can get some time with the county arranged for the delinquent fairly easily – maybe with a much longer probation period.
just a suggestion, take dicentras idea a level higher and hit the tip jar instead of ads to help build a legal “war chest” for Jeff, I know it’s out of pocket but chances are he receives a higher percentage that way. But if you can’ then click all of the few ads, several times.
It’s not just Frisch either. There are lots of people out there who are presumably sane but just as malicious, and who seem to think it’s their mission in life to make it impossible for people they disagree with politically to do really creative work. I don’t know how Jeff has managed for as long as this. I would be a zombie by now if my writing were subjected to the kinds of pressures that Jeff’s have been.
I couldn’t have said it better than Gail. I spent a few hours late last night going through the archives. Breathtaking and stunning art, Jeff. And yes, balls. You must clank when you walk. Hang in there, friend.
Yeah well, Debbie Frisfjkdls;a, wayward ho, tell her where to go and don’t let her keep you from happening. That labia licking lilliputian should be trembling and shaking, as it were, and not the other way around.
Jeff, you gots a real bum’s eye for words and the axiomatic. Keep firing cannonades broadside; it beats running through the halls wearing a cape.
I’m going to be in Loveland on Friday for my sisters wedding. I really wish I had more time back home. I would love to buy you a beer (or a shot of Jameson’s) and shoot the poo over a steak dinner (my treat, of course).
I do the next best thing… I hit the tip jar. Go get a bottle of Jameson’s and raise one up. I’ll be doing the same and praying for a good ending for this unholy mess.
This may be bad form or redundant, but how about a good old libel suit? What is going on crosses a line. And I can’t imagine the repercussions if the sexual roles were reversed here. Good luck and I can’t wait to read some more bent shit from you and Dan.
For what it’s worth, Mr. Goldstein, I disagree with much of your politics and some of your critical theory. You have been through serial attacks. But aren’t you relinquishing the narrative here? Haven’t you argued against falling silent (for whatever reason) for the sake of expedience? Get up, Champ. I’ll even try to figure out Paypal again if I have to.
Yours is a voice that my quarter considers dissent, if not opposition. It needs to be out there.
Tomorrow morning I would like to see Dan’s morning linkiness. Also maybe Darleen has found stuff to supplement her Jerry Brown post. Maybe now you might refresh the ranks of your guestbloggers since a few of the first batch seem to have fallen away (hi dicentra). As an editorial experiment, maybe it would be worth having guestbloggers adopt particular issues and run with just those for awhile (e.g. climate change, nannystatism) … I think you could see a more consistent product while bringing in the strength of a variety of voices. This is just what I’m thinking. No one asked me.
I am not falling silent for the sake of expedience, cynn. I’m taking time off to talk to lawyers, file affidavits, take screen shots, call enforcement agencies, and raise a three year old who today learned to open up the back gate. Letting slip the dogs of warmongerers — whom I had to chase down and bring back home without the help of a leash.
I’ll be back when my head is clear and my tasks are done. Priorities.
“Letting slip the dogs of warmongerers  whom I had to chase down and bring back home without the help of a leash.”
I like to keep a baseball handy, and not one of those child-proof softies either. I’m talking dirty, sun-stretched-leather hard-as-a-rock official MLB baseball. When the dogs run for it, I like to bean one with a sinking fastball (4-seamer, of course). The surprise always makes them come back, tails looped between their legs. Come to think of it, a dust-off usually gets ‘em running back like a pack of senators after a bad polling.
I’ve occasionally posted here, and enjoy this website. Don’t let “teh crazy” keep you off the web for too long. As I’ve been told, “put your flack jacket and helmet on, lock and load and don’t let the bastards win”.
Do the right thing – get her off the ‘net and behind bars.
Now if you’ve not had time to warm the arm up, there’s another fool proof way to bring the hounds back into the yard with minimal running on your part.
Just quickly work your way upwind of the pack, and then drop a duece in your yard. There’s not a dog this side of hell that can resist taking a nose-dive into an unfamiliar turd that’s been freshly plopped into his territory. Keep a lot of dog shampoo on hand, BTW.
When my dog would get out, what worked was to yell at him so he’d look my way and then fall down on the ground. He’d come right away and lick my face to make sure I was ok. He was a good dog.
What is it with pointless law studies adolescents around here, anyway
Hey, I’m no adolescent! I don’t think timb is either, though it’s the first I’ve seen him mention school.
Jeff, I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again and again and again: you’re too important a voice to let the bastards grind you down like this. Your unique combination of erudition, wit, intelligence, analytical skill, and just plain balls put you right at the head of those defending the Enlightenment from the statists, barbarians, and know-nothings. Do what you have to do for your family and yourself, but please do return as soon as possible.
[...] you haven’t been following the latest on Her Royal Derangedness over at PW, she is now taking swipes at loyal Friend of the Buffet™, Dan Collins. And for that, we give her a hearty middle finger. Which is held aloft next to the other middle [...]
Jeff,
I wish you the best in dealing with that deranged douche-bag and hope that your nightmare ends soon. Yours is one of the most articulate and unique voices on the net, or anywhere else. Please hurry back, I’ll miss my daily fix.
If there ever was a poster-child for human Ugliness (not the physical kind, per se, it seems Michael Moore is owning that one) in Spirit, it would have to be……
JHoward–
I have always felt that the Irishwoman values playfulness and collaboration. Gravity she views as a species of morbidity. She is protean; can you remain in her dimension when she shifts shape? Difficult to capture, loyal to a fault, very warm, somewhat frightening. I’m sure that’s of enormous help.
JHoward,
So, in other words, buy all three seasons of Father Ted, and whatever’s available of Black’s Books, and dazzle her with your knowledge of both.
The 4-seamer is a “riding” fastball with less movement. You’ll want either a 2-seamer (along or across the narrow seams) or maybe even a little cutter to bean those puppies.
Godspeed, JG, and thanks for the endless provocation of thought
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
Dont stop believin
Hold on to the feelin
Streetlight people
Dont stop-
State Rep. Bob Allen was arrested Wednesday afternoon at a local park after offering to perform a sex act on an undercover officer in exchange for $20, police said.
Allen, R-Merritt Island, was booked into the Brevard County jail in Sharpes on a charge of solicitation to commit prostitution, a second-degree misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in the county jail and a $500 fine.
He was released a few hours later after posting $500 bail, according to a jail spokesman. The legislator, who was first elected in 2000, could not be reached for comment late Wednesday.
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Titusville police were at Veteran’s Memorial Park on East Broad Street on a burglary detail when they noticed an unshaven man acting suspicious, going in and out of the restroom three times, said Lt. Todd Hutchinson.
An undercover officer decided to go into one of the bathroom stalls, Hutchinson said. Moments later, Allen knocked on the stall door and offered to perform oral sex on the officer for $20, according to the police spokesman.
I wonder whether he’s part of a Piranha Brothers scheme.
My Turing word would have been funnier if it had been Roman turd rather than Roman tured. I’m not sure what the latter is, frankly.
Checking some of the links in the thread, I see that SWMNBN has been very busy, indeed, making an ass of herself. Dan, good luck to you, too, in dealing with the predations of teh crazy.
Jeff, Is it possible that her family doesn’t know how whacked out she is? I would suspect they do… if they were going to help/intervene, would they have not done so already?
I can’t believe an indie film producer hasn’t made any inquiries yet. I don’t mean that in a crass way, just as a reflection of how… well, this is sort of a distillation of the times I think. Several people above invoked terrorism in discussing this, and what’s compelling about that is that the inability of law enforcement and authorities to effectively address the obvious injustices here, well, like I said, it’s sort of a distillation of the times I think.
Happyfeet, though wouldn’t a good story require some resolution? Her threats and stalking will just keep everyone involved looking over their shoulders for years to come.
There is no good system for dealing with all the trouble mentally ill persons cause, and catch and release is just about as good as it gets. She acts with impunity and even if she didn’t, unless completely removed from opportunities to lash out, she won’t stop.
It digusts me there is no way to get her treated by force and taken away from the freedom to do harm, short of waiting for her to be introduced to the criminal justice system. She’s broken and she can’t fix herself. She belongs in a treatment facility away from normal people.
This book is made for kids ages three to eleven. I would say even some adults should read this book.The book is about a monkey named Spunky. He was give this name by the other animals in the zoo because of all the crazy and wild things that he does. Well one day he decides to escape from the zoo without the man at the front gate seeing him. He tries many creative and funny ways some of witch work and some that dont. This book teaches kids and maybe some adults that they should never give up on their goals. Also it teaches them if you fail at something you should just keep trying because if you just give up you have failed yourself! You should read this book if you give up on your goals easily or if you fail and than just quit.
“If the professor has any friends left, now might be the time to become involved.”
Malignant narcissism doesn’t allow for friendship. The prognosis for a successful therapeutic outcome is very, very low. Most therapists don’t want anything to do narcissists and neither do the narcissist’s families.
I’ve had to deal long term (2-3 year) with one and they will burn sympathy out of you faster than a perpetual drunk.
The DA in Lane county needs to giver thirty days in the cooler. Narcisissts do have the ability to control their behavior and jail time may well affect her future choices.
The key is that Deb believes her behavior is sensible, despite the evidence to the contrary
I have to agree with you on that point, Dan. I was watching a Fred! video yesterday and in the comments following it, I saw this little pearl:
LEATSLAN (1 day ago) Marked as spam
I can explain it:
Conservatives are America’s children:
Need “strong” leadership – even if it’s faked
Need Daddy-God and candidates that come across as Avuncular like Reagan and Fred
Don’t like “rules and regulations”
Don’t like paying their own way in life – taxes are the price of living in a civil society, Cons don’t want to pay their ticket – they just want a free ride.
Conservative “discussion”: Me need, me need, me want, no wanna share, me first, me, me
SWMNBN and this LEATSLAN believe so whole-heartedly what they spew forth that no amount of truth or reason can combat it.
As Kelly Leak explained to Buttermaker and Amanda on the day he decided to join the Bears, “some asshole changed my mind.”
Those most recently attacked by Frisch as a result of their affiliation with, or sympathy for, me, have written and asked that I not let Frisch’s attempts to leverage collateral damage against me force me to padlock the store.
So I’ll take a few days, do a few things on the legal front, and we’ll go from there.
Cheezit crackers, my long post dissapeared after the blogbot told me I’d already posted it. What gives? Now I outed greta for nothing. :) Plus, I forgot what all I said. Oh well, in pale imitation:
I don’t think anything short of removal from devices she can use to harass people will stop her. She’s already regularly and repeatedly violating a court order.
The sad reality is, until she moves to commit a violent act or succeeds in comitting a serious crime against person or property, she is subject only to catch and release incarceration, if that. And she will not find this persuasive. I suppose it doesn’t help that she is able to act with relative impunity at present, and that this has served to embolden her.
If she lands in jail, even for a month or two, it’s not likely to have a lasting effect. A sword of Damocles in some form of probation might be obtainable but I actually don’t think she can stick to it even when it is in her own best interest, unless the means to harass others is physically taken from her.
You have an attorney, correct? Take advantage of the heinous Patriot Act and wade into its murky swirling depths to hook up with the possibility of a criminal act based on “dangerous” electronic transmissions. Just a thought, but I sure feel threatened.
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Comment by BumperStickerist on 7/9 @ 4:18 pm #
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Shane?
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Comment by Liberrocky on 7/9 @ 4:19 pm #
Huh?
Comment by BumperStickerist on 7/9 @ 4:19 pm #
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SHANE!
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Comment by cranky-d on 7/9 @ 4:20 pm #
It’s art, people.
Comment by steveaz on 7/9 @ 4:40 pm #
Literary Art: a written composition constructed to ilicit an emotional response.
Comment by Joseph on 7/9 @ 4:55 pm #
Meh.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/9 @ 4:59 pm #
Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive? Mr. Bush, just what is it about ‘So help me God’ that you find so offensive?
Comment by mastour on 7/9 @ 5:00 pm #
That’s it? That’s all you got? Ok then. Gleen wins!!
Comment by Major John on 7/9 @ 5:02 pm #
How much later?
Comment by Cythen on 7/9 @ 6:03 pm #
ttyl, brb plz kthx?
Comment by Bill D. Cat on 7/9 @ 6:05 pm #
After all this NO !
Comment by the dolphins on 7/9 @ 6:13 pm #
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
Comment by Jeffersonian on 7/9 @ 6:15 pm #
Is Jeff taking Art Bell’s slot?
Comment by mojo on 7/9 @ 6:49 pm #
Later than what?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/9 @ 6:59 pm #
I’m at a loss for words.
Comment by ThePolishNizel on 7/9 @ 7:01 pm #
Peacizel my nizel.
Comment by Pablo on 7/9 @ 7:18 pm #
Pick up a gallon of whole milk and some more of those red pills on your way home, please.
Comment by McGehee on 7/9 @ 7:27 pm #
It’s a pun, people. Jeff is off to get a new OTC drug designed to make people less stressed out. It’s called “Laterol.”
From the makers of “Dammitol” and “Fugguol.”
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/9 @ 7:33 pm #
I thought that Dammitol was those cork things you bung yourself with when you’ve got diarrhea.
Comment by charles austin on 7/9 @ 7:40 pm #
Well, I control the narrative so I’ll tell Jeff what it means when I get good and ready.
Comment by RC on 7/9 @ 8:47 pm #
Yeah, right, Dan Collins at a loss for words…
Comment by Pon Raul on 7/9 @ 10:01 pm #
Goddamnit, this would NOT HAPPEN if Ron Paul was in the White House. Dr. Paul is the ONLY person who can save America, and if any of you had more than just a bagel for an IQ, you would know that already. Instead, you useless bunch of sheeple are content with the OFFICIAL VERSION OF THE TRUTH instead of finding out for yourself what’s really going on. The truth is, you’re just afraid of what Dr. Paul (PBUH) will do after he is elected and RESTORES THE CONSTITUTION to this country.
Not only that, but Ron Paul has an eighteen inch boner. You heard me right, I SAID AN EIGHTEEN INCH BONER. Don’t you have any idea what he could do for this country? We haven’t had that kind of cockmeat in the White House since James Garfield, and there’s no telling what he might have accomplished if he hadn’t been shot by that damned frog lawyer.
I came down here to try to educate you bunch of nitwits, but I can tell already that I’m not getting anywhere with you, and your understanding of the truth is about as shaky as Michael J. Fox after a Venti Frappuccino.
That fucking does it. When Dr. Paul gets elected, every last one of you is going to pay. EVERY.FUCKING.LAST.ONE.OF.YOU.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/9 @ 10:08 pm #
Please check Hot Air for the video of that last rant. You’ll find a link to ace, too — so doubleplus good!
Comment by klrfz1 on 7/10 @ 4:50 am #
Bite me, Mr. Goldstein! You fucking went to a Rockies game didn’t you. Or you were having some fun some way. Leaving us blogging alone. Outrageous!
When the global warmists take over baseball will be one of the many, many sports that are banned. The crack of the bat brings the roar of the crowd which is nothing more than tens of thousands of walking pollution factories starting up. People, I’m talking about people you dunce! When the global warmists are in charge anything that causes heavy breathing will be banned. Anything! The Earth hangs in the balance. Sacrifices must be made to save Mother Gaia.
Comment by eLarson on 7/10 @ 6:05 am #
Keep in touch. Have a great summer!
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 7/10 @ 7:08 am #
Hopefully this is art and not an actual “I’m leaving”. With all the comings and goings on this site, I’d like to actually know whats happening.
Not that I have a right to, I would just like to know. Thanks )
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 7:20 am #
My guess, Matt, is that Jeff’s pissed about being systematically ignored by the powers that be, and probably most hurtfully by other PajamasMedia outlets, since he’s finally been able to return to blogging. As one unaccustomed to a large readership, except when I’ve posted on Jeff’s site, I can say that while I’m gratified by the readers and their comments, I sometimes wonder why I’m so infrequently linked, even when I’m right on top of something that they are subsequently talking about, and in my view, Jeff’s contributions have been stellar since he’s come back full time. I have the luxury of not depending on my writing for my daily bread, but Jeff does not. And as the armadillo hasn’t danced yet, he’s not even been able finally to put to rest the incident that caused his absence.
Of course, I might just be talking out of my ass. It wouldn’t be the first time–just ask the Newshoggers people. But I can understand from where he’s coming.
Comment by Steve on 7/10 @ 7:47 am #
I hope this is not the final goodbye, great things have happen since I stumbled upon it. One thing after finding protein wisdom my hair has grown back, or is that because I stopped shaving my head? Coincidence, maybe, either way it is by far my favorite site.
Comment by Mr. Boo on 7/10 @ 7:48 am #
If Jeff is leaving, I’m gonna just clock out early, alright?
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/10 @ 7:52 am #
Dan,
You guys do realize that Corn’s picture keeps popping up on the ‘jama’s sidebar, right? And that he was on board from the beginning, with a great big wet kiss of welcome? Some hoaxes take a bit of time to unravel. “The company you keep”, etc.
Comment by mojo on 7/10 @ 9:56 am #
Hello, I must be going.
– Groucho
Comment by mojo on 7/10 @ 10:09 am #
Re: PJM
How about you lose the PJ button, get together with Steve H. and Moxie and some others (Dennis?) to form “Babydoll Nighty Media”?
Comment by Drumwaster on 7/10 @ 10:30 am #
Why clock out early? Last one out clocks us all out and locks the door…
Or so I’ve heard. Never done it myself. Nope. Not once. Not that I’ve been caught at anyway.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 10:33 am #
This is depressing like when they cancelled Buffy. Well, I really only watched it like two years later on dvd but still is very sad.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 10:35 am #
For any who are interested, I’d like to post a Anyone whom you know who might like to dedicate something is welcome.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 10:37 am #
What was the weirdest thing is that they cancelled Buffy but Charmed had like two more seasons. Sick business, tv.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 10:37 am #
Festschrift is the missing word, above.
Comment by Mr. Boo on 7/10 @ 10:46 am #
“Festschrift is the missing word, above.”
Geshundheit.
Wait. Jeff is actually leaving us?
That blows.
Let me be the first to contribute to the Fes… Festler… Fez… Fe… thingy:
“Jeff G. rules. Everyone else kinda sucks in comparison.”
Comment by Mr. Boo on 7/10 @ 10:47 am #
Also I call Jeff’s week old donuts in the fridge.
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 11:03 am #
Dan – Please tell us this is not true, some not-so-elaborate hoax, elegant in its simplicity, designed to make me want to smash my Treo against the nearest rock.
Comment by otcconan on 7/10 @ 11:04 am #
Did someone say OTC?
The way I feel about quitting something is that a real man just quits without saying anything. You just quit. Disappear. Allah did this better than anyone, and look how people begged him to return.
Since this post is not April 1, I guess that Jeff’s leaving PJM, not leaving PW.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/10 @ 11:07 am #
What was the weirdest thing is that they cancelled Buffy but Charmed had like two more seasons.
Used to watch Charmed at the gym every afternoon. It’s much better without sound.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/10 @ 11:13 am #
“It is typically published on the occasion of the honoree’s retirement, sixty-fifth birthday, or other notable anniversary in his or her career.”
Do our Festschriften have to refer to the first anniversary of this event? Or can we write about something else -say, the first time we actually saw the armadillo dance?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 11:17 am #
It can be on anything, so long as it’s done in the spirit of PW.
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 11:21 am #
Dan – Is Jeff truly retiring ?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 11:34 am #
I can’t say, JD. I haven’t emailed yet, and I don’t want to bother him at this moment. I’m just going to PayPal him some scratch so that he can buy a bottle of something to mull it with.
Comment by MikeH on 7/10 @ 11:52 am #
Torpedo – LOS!
(although as an American I would prefer the phrase, “Commence Firing!”
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 12:06 pm #
Let me know where B moe will be posting. I need that rage to survive day to day.
Comment by Pablo on 7/10 @ 12:13 pm #
If you could learn to love yourself, Timmah!, you wouldn’t need the rage.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 12:29 pm #
I didn’t ask about you, Pabs, ’cause I know from experience I can find you anywhere (that’s not a shot, just an expression of my experience with blogs).
Also, outside of Jeff or Ric Locke, there’s no one who has more regard for self than me. In the immortal words of Zaphod Beeblebrox, “If there’s anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.”
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 12:35 pm #
“It’s mostly scorn and disgust, timmy, you aren’t worth getting angry over. Have no idea where I will go if this is for real, might have to give blogging a shot myself.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 12:37 pm #
Dear lord, let that be so….can your trailer handle the bandwidth? Is power in rural Georgia more reliable than in Baghdad?
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 12:41 pm #
“Is power in rural Georgia more reliable than in Baghdad?”
I live in Athens, the Southern Company is more powerful than God, just ask Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Comment by Techie on 7/10 @ 12:47 pm #
The Southern Co. is your all knowing and all-compassionate God.
(Seriously though, I’ve never had my power go out as much as when I moved from the North GA mountains to Eastern MA. Go figure)
Comment by Major John on 7/10 @ 12:51 pm #
I would be interested to see where timb or actus…er, shine, would go next. Alphie ended up drifting around Jules Crittenden’s site or Patterico’s if I remember correctly.
Remember folks, Blogger is free.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 12:51 pm #
Were you the bassist for the Georgia Satellites?
Comment by Aldo on 7/10 @ 12:59 pm #
Is this post related in any way to the legal matter ans she who must not be named?
TW: Warning More
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:04 pm #
MJ, I’ve commented on your blog before and, alas, my comment was ignored. It was in an area of your expertise and I thought you could answer it. Later, I got that answer here on PW.
But, put this is “blogger” prospective: full time work, part-time school, three kids, including a 2 month old infant. Time to craft award winning blog entries is time I won’t be able to spend on boring clerk work and learning about “Business Associations”
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 1:05 pm #
“Were you the bassist for the Georgia Satellites?”
If you are asking me, no, I was a big fan though. I have played guitar with a few Athens bands/musicians, but never with those guys.
Comment by TODD on 7/10 @ 1:07 pm #
Your coming back right?
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:11 pm #
I was kidding, but I rocked out to “Battleship Chains” as a high school kid.
Do you ever see Michael Stipe and spit at him for being a lefty tree hugger. In my mind you do, cackling all the way about “memes”, “narratives”, and making little Mikey cry with the sarcasm so evident on these pages. Although, you both hate Dan Rather, so maybe I should picture you bonding with him over bourbons at a local watering hole?
You want to talk someone who takes himself a mite too seriously…Michael wins that award going away.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 7/10 @ 1:12 pm #
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:04 pm #
Wow, for such a busy little bee, you sure have time to post a lot of crap on Jeff’s blog.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 1:13 pm #
If all leftists were Michael Stipe, I’d be ok with that.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:13 pm #
Doesn’t take me as long to read as it takes you!
And, like JD, I find this work is boring.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 1:14 pm #
Well, cept for that Everybody Hurts song.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:17 pm #
Hey, you where many people could go. Phil Carter has an excellent blog at inteldump.com that does fine work on strategy and military issues. It’s less political and more “inside baseball”, but he’s a smart fellow.
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 1:22 pm #
“Do you ever see Michael Stipe and spit at him for being a lefty tree hugger. In my mind you do, cackling all the way about “memesâ€Â, “narrativesâ€Â, and making little Mikey cry with the sarcasm so evident on these pages.”
That imagination of yours is part of your problem, timmy. Stipe is actually a casual friend with whom I have shared a couple of beers, although it has been awhile. Athens has changed quite a bit over the years and the old crowd don’t hang out like they used to.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 1:27 pm #
Don’t tell him what I said about the Everybody Hurts song.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 1:30 pm #
Adonai! Why hast thou harshed my mellow?
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:31 pm #
Imagination is a problem…..from Edmund Burke to Robert Taft to Goldwater to Nixon to Reagan to Rove. Never has the worldview of the conservative been so well enunciated.
Anyway, B Moe, it should be obvious the only thing I know about Athens is a Todd Snider song and “What’s the frequency, Kenneth”. I make no grand claims to the contrary.
It’s funny that I try to engage your sense of you humor, and you just refuse to allow it. It’s what I love about you, B Moe, although Pablo is way more kooky. Did you catch his comment on the “root causes” thread about how Islamic folks hate us because of the jihad. “Always have, always will.”
That just cracked me up.
Anyway, looking forward to your next “listen to me you young man, Islam is no laughing matter” comment
Comment by Jim in KC on 7/10 @ 1:35 pm #
B Moe, is he more understandable in conversation than when he sings? 20-some years later, I’m still trying to decypher some of REMs lyrics…
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 1:37 pm #
Festschriften may be sent to: vermontaigne@gmail.com
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 1:45 pm #
“B Moe, is he more understandable in conversation than when he sings?”
Sometimes, it comes and goes. He is funny as hell when he gets drunk, though, tends to loosen up a bit.
“It’s funny that I try to engage your sense of you humor, and you just refuse to allow it.”
Oh that bit about spitting on someone was supposed to be humor? I guess I don’t hang around with children enough, my bad.
“Anyway, looking forward to your next “listen to me you young man, Islam is no laughing matter†comment…”
No way, man, those imam’s are some funny cats. Did you hear the one about the well-hung Iranian fag? That shit kills them in Tehran.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 7/10 @ 1:48 pm #
Wow, timmah. It’s rare to see someone take someone else’s words and so totally twist them out of their intended meaning. At least you didn’t put those words in quotes. You see, the original statement was:
That kind of crap is the reason no one bothers to try to discern when you’re attempting humor.
Comment by dicentra on 7/10 @ 1:49 pm #
Wait, which Hot Air post was Jeff talking about? There are so many, I can’t tell! And which radio show did he do? They podcast, right?
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:50 pm #
Bob, don’t you have a gnome to paint or something?
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:53 pm #
Yes, B Moe, the spitting was absurdist, you dolt. You frequent this blog, but only absurd comments from Jeff and Dan?
I know, on a serious note, that we can all shred a tear for that prick in Islamabad got to meet Allah today. Uprisings in THAT country scare the living f=ck out of me
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 1:57 pm #
Corrected
Yes, B Moe, the spitting was absurdist, you dolt. You frequent this blog, but only absurd comments from Jeff and Dan are welcome?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 1:57 pm #
tim, there are a couple of times I’ve gone off on you. I don’t recall the circumstances, but I’m sorry anyway. Whatever the importance of PW has been to you, it’s evident that it’s been important. Contradiction certainly has its place in the PW ecosystem, assuming that it’s still here. But I wonder whether you couldn’t please tone it down for a bit till we figure out whether Jeff’s coming back. It’s a simple matter of respect. I’m asking as a favor.
TW: plaintiff mankind,
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 1:59 pm #
Rob – That is part and parcel of his schtick.
I really hope that Jeff is not hanging up the spikes. There are not many, if any, on the more libertarian/conservative side that interest me. This really would be a bad thing, for the internet.
Like killing hoboes about the zeitgeist.
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 2:01 pm #
Good luck with that one …
Comment by BJTexs on 7/10 @ 2:03 pm #
I second Dan’s comment. There will be other times and other places for timb spanking. I’m a little bit more concerned as to whether or not my adopted outlet for unbridled lunacy laced with critical thought is about to be wrenched from my grasping hands.
THE HORROR!
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 2:11 pm #
Dan? Because silence will bring him back? Or, because more people rending their garments will convince him this is profitable?
If Jeff doesn’t know that the regulars at this site like him and need his opinions to help make sense (and fun of) the world of news and politics, then no amount of crying is going to convince him to return.
Nonetheless, I’m afraid of Scotsmen, so I will restrict my postings to pleading with Jeff to decide to continue to blog.
A quick digression, Brian, the first time you spank me will be the first. I now return you to the faithful begging the powerful to return.
Comment by McGehee on 7/10 @ 2:11 pm #
If Jeff does shut down PW, it’ll mean all the work on the new platform was for nought — and that I’ll have to cut short the hiatus I’m taking from my own blog.
Neither bears contemplating.
Comment by McGehee on 7/10 @ 2:16 pm #
As for the timbot, it’s obvious that all that stuff away from here that takes up all his time that he can’t spare to write his own blog, still somehow doesn’t manage to add up to a life.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 2:21 pm #
Not because silence will bring him back, tim. But if you were mourning something close to you, I like to think that I would have the decency not to cast raspberries in your way. In other words, I don’t think that this is the thread to jack.
And more, people who’ve visited, perhaps never donated (though I’ll admit that I do so seldom, but not never, to places where I disagree) might contemplate that whatever their view of the shortcomings of the host and his visitors, one could at least post without having their genius or idiocy, or both, or neither, held for “moderation” or nuked outright, without extreme provocation, and with reasons given always. There are numerous sites where that’s simply not the case, some belonging to very high-profile bloggers, whom, you’d think, would be above that kind of censorship.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 2:27 pm #
It’s the most endearing and best part of PW.
If I might, Dan, McGehee, if your blog is an indication of “having a life,” I’ve seen it and let’s just say we agree to disagree re: your definition.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 2:31 pm #
Ah! but there you and McGehee must have a lot in common, insofar as neither of you, obviously, is in it for the affirmation. And that goes for my blog, as well.
Comment by Pablo on 7/10 @ 2:32 pm #
Did you catch his comment on the “root causes†thread about how Islamic folks hate us because of the jihad. “Always have, always will.â€Â
Timmah!, if you were any more obtuse, you’d be a cinder block.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 2:33 pm #
Oh, crap. I just realized today’s my brother’s birthday. I suppose that means another belated card.
Comment by Karl on 7/10 @ 2:41 pm #
Dan,
E-cards. E-cards.
Comment by Danny B on 7/10 @ 2:55 pm #
Well, if it comes to it there is always this:
Find Jeff Goldstein $9.95
http://www.peoplefinders.com – Get current information on this person instantly.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 2:56 pm #
Karl, that’d be great, but everytime he starts getting spam he just closes his account and starts another, so I’ve no idea who he is now. BTW, thanks for all the fish.
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 3:11 pm #
Please. Let. This. Be. A. Really. Bad. Joke.
I cannot imagine going through all of the transfer over to WordPress, to then just close up shop, unless something really bad happened, which obviously, I pray has not happened.
Comment by Rusty on 7/10 @ 3:12 pm #
Was it something I said? Because we all know it’s all about me.
Comment by Jim in KC on 7/10 @ 3:16 pm #
I didn’t really have anything to say, but the captcha was too good to pass up:
Socialists gift
Yeah. And it encourages me to “solve the challenge below”. As if.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 3:17 pm #
I blame Rusty.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 3:18 pm #
Couldn’t you have been more supportive, Rusty (you bastard)?
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 3:21 pm #
I think it is timmah’s fault. We managed to survive Phoenician in a Time of Romans, semenlickerleo, actus, alphie, heet, etal., but timmah might prove to be one of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocaplypse.
Comment by Shawn on 7/10 @ 3:34 pm #
If tim’s one of the four horsemen, then I’m Ronnie James Dio.
Comment by steveaz on 7/10 @ 3:47 pm #
Jeff,
Don’t let those stiff-collared PJM tarts get you down.
If they’re too pretty to share their “A”-table in the Junior High School lunch room with us losers from the smoking section, then it’s their loss.
Plainly, there’s too much starch in their shirts and it’s got to be chafing them. So, never you mind.
Comment by BumperStickerist on 7/10 @ 3:50 pm #
Come back, Shane!
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Comment by kelly on 7/10 @ 4:01 pm #
Shit. Take a couple of days off and come back to this!
*sigh* Well, looks like my productivity at work can only go up from here. Dammitall.
Pingback by Up in smoke…? | Cold Fury on 7/10 @ 4:42 pm #
[...] Jeff G: hanging it up? [...]
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 5:01 pm #
I are bereft.
Comment by Requiem for a Douchebag on 7/10 @ 5:26 pm #
Well, we’ll always have the memories (sniffle)…Farewell, Jeff. Godspeed!
Comment by klrfz1 on 7/10 @ 5:26 pm #
Does anyone besides me think its suspicious that Dan Collins hasn’t posted anything above this post? Personally, I hope Mr. Goldstein is in St. Louis tonight. And if he is and you know his cell phone number you should be able to find out. Hmmmm?
Comment by dicentra on 7/10 @ 5:28 pm #
Shane!
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 5:44 pm #
klrfz1,
If I had been in contact with Jeff, I would let you know. Since I haven’t, and I’m to confine my posts to the weekends, and since I don’t particularly feel it’s appropriate to supercede a post such as this, I’m not going to post.
But I agree, it does arouse suspicion.
I wish that I could say that I felt as though I were 100% absolved for having tried to keep an oar in, but I fear that in some respects I may have hastened his departure. Completely inadvetently. I could never be Jeff. People came here for Jeff. I diluted the product.
Comment by mojo on 7/10 @ 5:58 pm #
Maybe that Big Score (in anticipation of which Jeff has been cultivating a reputation for honesty and trustworthiness lo these many years) has finally come through and he’s now ensconced on the Costa del Sol under an assumed name, drinking Laphroaig on the rocks while watching the topless water-skiers carve the azure sea.
Hey, it could happen.
captcha: swiss money
Great minds, baby.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 5:59 pm #
Zihautenejo.
Comment by cranky-d on 7/10 @ 6:00 pm #
Dan, I would expect that Jeff would have told you to not post if he didn’t want you to post. The fact that he continued to allow you (and me and the others) to post here when he could have easily used the transition to wordpress as a point to ease us out strengthens my belief that he didn’t want us to stop. However, I agree with you on not posting until he says more about what’s going on.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 6:05 pm #
Thanks. Because I’m certainly not posting till this becomes the longest comments thread at PW, EVAH. And even then, maybe not.
Comment by McGehee on 7/10 @ 6:08 pm #
I’m in it for the cold, hard cash. Just like I joined the chess club in high school to meet chicks.
Comment by frank p on 7/10 @ 6:09 pm #
Rehab?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/10 @ 6:11 pm #
Festschrift offfering #1.
http://bloodyscott.blogspot.com/2007/07/festschrift-1-jd.html
Comment by Drumwaster on 7/10 @ 6:30 pm #
Just like I joined the chess club in high school to meet chicks.
Trust me, the party chicks were on the debate team. The drama club were the divas (they put the cheerleaders to shame for sheer ‘tude) and the homelier ones ended up in Home Ec or FFA.
Comment by vermontaigne on 7/10 @ 6:38 pm #
So, I sent Jeff a goodbye gift of $60 to buy a bottle of something good to mull it over with. I’m not saying any of you should do the same, but perhaps if we get him drunk enough, he’ll suffer retrograde amnesia. So . . .
Anyway, Jeff, in case you’ve forgotten, you’re loved and admired (and hated with a passion) by lots of people out here in cyberspace, and that means that, more than most of us, you’re alive.
Comment by Russ on 7/10 @ 6:39 pm #
Gesundheit.
Comment by McGehee on 7/10 @ 6:39 pm #
Yeah, I would’ve had better luck joining the D&D club.
Comment by McGehee on 7/10 @ 6:41 pm #
Or, you know, maybe going to a co-ed high school.
Comment by klrfz1 on 7/10 @ 6:41 pm #
Jeff, I wouldn’t tell you to bite me if I didn’t mean it in the best possible way. I hope you
knowunderstand that.And if change is in the offing, here’s to ya you little peckerwood. Thanks for the entertainlightenment.
Also I found out the All Star Game is in San Francisco, an entirely different Saint. So if you’re in St. Louis leave.
Comment by R30C on 7/10 @ 6:46 pm #
Dan, Timbs only form of daily ablution is PW. Which somehow makes Timb piss poor. I recommend changing the name of your blog to “Timb”, then the “piss poor…” statement will be crystal clear to all visitors. Well, it’s an idea on the table anyway.
Comment by farewell, jeff on 7/10 @ 6:47 pm #
Memories…light the corners of my mind.
Comment by vermontaigne on 7/10 @ 6:48 pm #
I’ll take it under advisement, though almost all of us agree that that there are fates (i.e. Trolls) far worse than timb.
Comment by vermontaigne on 7/10 @ 6:51 pm #
For example.
TW: Finally, absurdly
Comment by blow hard on 7/10 @ 7:12 pm #
Re: the shrugging
Atlas, do it man. Do it.
Trackback by The Brea Canyon Monument on 7/10 @ 7:15 pm #
What the?…
Oh no. Hell no….
Comment by Diana on 7/10 @ 7:24 pm #
We are not amused.
TW: “onto O’Donnell” … Hah! Jeff’s going to co-host “The View”.
Comment by ahem on 7/10 @ 7:25 pm #
Come on, Jeff. Israel is surrounded by Islamists, war is on the horizon, western civilization’s in retreat and the presidential elections are coming up. This is not the time to cede the field to the relativists. Please think this over. Take the rest of the summer off and recharge you batteries. We need you.
Comment by maggie katzen on 7/10 @ 7:31 pm #
Is this when we all start seeing him other places? like Elvis? I’d swear farewell,jeff at #124 has been altered.
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 7:34 pm #
“…timmah might prove to be one of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocaplypse.”
More like one of the 4 Moped Riders of a Really Bad Weekend.
Didn’t JG do one of these before, and he was just gonna be out of town for a night or two?
Comment by vermontaigne on 7/10 @ 7:43 pm #
Maybe, B Moe. I’m not taking any chances, though.
Comment by vermontaigne on 7/10 @ 7:47 pm #
Festschrift #2
http://bloodyscott.blogspot.com/2007/07/festschrift-2-rick-ballard.html
Comment by jim on 7/10 @ 7:51 pm #
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Comment by blow hard on 7/10 @ 7:59 pm #
jim, are you the jim of the long lost Objectionable Content?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 8:01 pm #
maggie’s right. I think there was a sadlyno link there. Myself I do not click on links to sadlyno, so I don’t know what that was all about.
Comment by david on 7/10 @ 8:03 pm #
Why the long faces?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 8:26 pm #
I hadn’t noticed that Mr. Reynolds had linked here today. He has an eye for talent, that one. His pox on both your houses thing though dovetails nicely with the dominant malaise theme the MSM is all about these days, so he’s zeitgeisty too.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 8:28 pm #
linking things is hard
Comment by total n00b on 7/10 @ 8:33 pm #
What the FRICK is an armadillo dance?
Comment by Shawn on 7/10 @ 8:38 pm #
Jeff’s probably just enjoying the All-Star festivities. He’ll be back soon enough.
Comment by cokane on 7/10 @ 8:50 pm #
No one cares that you’re leaving
Comment by marc page on 7/10 @ 8:50 pm #
[Let us all now bow our heads
and join our voices in song:]
“Good night,
Good-bye;
Good riddance,
Good luck.
And if we never meet again,
will it be too soon?
May you be in heaven
half an hour before
Mr. Dante knows you’re dead.
And there let us warily meet,
safe and warm as at home
in our own unmade bed.”
[Requiescat in pace, Mr. Godlstein.]
Comment by R. Sherman on 7/10 @ 8:50 pm #
Speaking as a “lurker” who has never commented here before, I hope this is a joke.
Cheers.
Comment by BrendaK on 7/10 @ 8:51 pm #
Jeff Goldstein, you just get yourself right back to that computer and crank out some commentary, young man.
Please?!
Comment by serr8d on 7/10 @ 8:51 pm #
I don’t think Jeff is gone, for long. Too much unfinished bidness, to pull out now. Especially after the refurbish job, and the nascent pub thingy.
As a very small-time short-term blog follower, and very-seldom-commenter, I’ll say that I’ve spent more time reading Jeff’s blog than any other on the Web, and I doubt that there’s any other out there like it. None, that I’ve found.
Jeff, you’ve strained youself with your battles, and I’ve noticed your struggles with posts, lately. The flow isn’t always there, as it was. A writer has to have flow, or the thing…suffers. Will time off help? Maybe, but that’s what siphoned your readers away, before. As far as the Malkins and Allahs, easy come, easy go; they can’t touch your style of writing. Yours is many levels above theirs. Just…don’t post anything that doesn’t come out easily, naturally.
Take a 7th inning stretch; but don’t forget the rest of the game~!
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 8:58 pm #
david, timmah, and cokane (cute) cannot even allow people to say goodbye without being assholes.
I was really hoping that when I logged on tonight, that Dan would have posted something that said this was all one really bad practical joke. Such is not the luck.
TW : Europe failures … where to begin?
Comment by clarice on 7/10 @ 9:01 pm #
Jeff, I adore everything you write. If this is taking too much of your time, I hope you will continue to post online perhaps in a different format. If you are really hanging it up, I want you to know that I will really miss reading your work.
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 9:02 pm #
“Why the long faces?”
“No one cares that you’re leaving”
Look, you want to troll a thread like this, you accuse us of being pitiful sycophants, fan-bois, jilted man-crush wannabes…. I mean, it is a target the size of the fucking Moon, and this is the best you morons can come up with?
I swear to God I would gargle buckshot before I went through life that fucking stupid.
Comment by Joe B on 7/10 @ 9:17 pm #
Jeff, if you quite this thing, then Sullivan and Greenwald win! Don’t let the Sodomites, er, Inverts, I mean, people whose love may …not that there’s anything wrong with…Okay, forget that, howabout this: if you stop this thing, then there is the very real chance that a conservative leaning and reasonably educated white male, might, at 11:39 PM on a Thursday, and, in a moment of severe ideological incoherence (aggrevated by a Smutty Nose IPA, a Foster’s Ale and two generous glasses of Cab from the 5 liter tap) and, lacking the confidence provided by one of your inspired rants, actually consider that a HILLARY CLINTON victory in 2008 might be something that this country could live with (“Let the Dems step up and deal with Islamic terror…they’ll learn a thing or two and come to appreciate the unique qualities that make this nation”…”…sense of responsibility”…”after all, we’re all Americans”…damn!, that wine’s going to stain the carpet!)”. Do you you think you could live with yourself if that happened even one time, Jeff? If so, then I can only say that you’ll have a thing or two to think about while you’re trying to find the direction to Mecca as you prostrate yourself for the third prayer of the day!
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 9:18 pm #
We could, as a public service, show these pathetic little retards how to properly troll, that is if you maudlin fucking psychophants can stop crying and sober up enough to give your mommy instructions on what to type for you. Or is the thought of trying to come up with something original without the guidance of the Mighty Goldstein too much for your shriveled little neocon heart to bear?
Comment by marc page on 7/10 @ 9:19 pm #
You’re not “gargl[ing] buckshot ? Weird … it always ’sounds’ like you are.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/10 @ 9:21 pm #
The “the ‘the “I’m back” post’ post will belie the ‘the no one cares that you’re leaving comment’ comment” comment.
Comment by B Moe on 7/10 @ 9:27 pm #
Atta boy, marc. Still stupid as hell, but at least you are trying!
CW: armament existence- the fucking turing machine has got nothing but talking points, sheesh.
Comment by ahem on 7/10 @ 9:29 pm #
See, assholes; it’s like this: in the morning Jeff will be sober, but you’ll still be assholes.
tw: fling, poo
Comment by EricP on 7/10 @ 9:32 pm #
I’m mostly a lurker but I have posted occasionally. I think he means it, although I do hope not. There is a toll to be paid and sometimes you just need to hang it up rather than beat your head against the wall. If so, best of luck Jeff and Godspeed. You will be missed.
Comment by Darleen on 7/10 @ 9:40 pm #
Geez, just after JeffG has been conducting university level lectures and I feel I starting to grasp some of it here and there…
!!!
Come ON Jeff…you can’t “buh BYE” forever… not when people like Joe Biden are just so giving of priceless material
It’s gotta be somesort of inspiration to a CITIZEN JOURNALIST
and what about Billy Jack now that Mommy Sheehan is out to get Pelosi’s seat ….
TW: 57,000 treats is that what its gonna take?
Comment by km on 7/10 @ 9:54 pm #
Remember the days of “Carthaginian in a time of Romans” or whatever that guy called himself? Good times.
Comment by jamrat on 7/10 @ 10:00 pm #
I CAN’T QUIT YOU, JEFF!!!!!!
Seriously, good luck in whatever you end up doing and thanks for a great education.
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 10:01 pm #
Phoenician in a Time of Romans. Classic. Good times. It was like a troll pinata.
Comment by timb on 7/10 @ 10:07 pm #
“Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 8:58 pm #
david, timmah, and cokane (cute) cannot even allow people to say goodbye without being assholes.”
Hey, JD, you can kiss my ass. It’s like you excel at being silly. You have posted 6 times on this post without saying ONE thing new. You miss Jeff and you don’t like people who disagree. Get over your bad self. Sorry I made fun of your B Moe. Do you have a little crush on B Moe? Pablo? ‘Cause I haven’t taken a shot at Dear Leader. Could you provide of list of commenters who are out of bounds? I just want to avoid getting impotent drive byes from your two bit, insurance adjusting, SAAB driving twittery.
Comment by marc page on 7/10 @ 10:08 pm #
Maybe he just went back-packing with Chris Clarke and Ilyka. You know, commisserating with each other about how they just don’t get the respect they deserve … and Chris is all like, ‘hey, we should start a new group-blog, just the three of us’ … and Ilyka says, ‘yeah, we’ll show ‘em’ …
Or maybe Chris is guiding Jeff through the wilds of Oregon to check out that piece of property Mr. G’s had his eye on …
Then again, you might just see something like this:
The “The I’m Back Post” Post
What the hell was all that? I said “later,” didn’t I ?
[Now, of course, he'll have to come up with something else.]
Comment by JD on 7/10 @ 10:13 pm #
timmah – Is it not possible for you trolls to act like you have even a shred of decency? Yuck it up, fuckwad. Coming from a group that thinks a funeral is a good place to have a campaign event, it should not surprise me that you do not have enough basic manners to avoid being an ass in this thread. You have now graduated into the heet category, which is not something to be proud of.
Comment by Hoodlumman on 7/10 @ 11:20 pm #
Nipple.
Comment by mojo on 7/11 @ 12:03 am #
Coccyx.
Captcha: competitor 1917
What’s that girl? Captured by Krauts?
Comment by cranky-d on 7/11 @ 1:59 am #
I decided this thread needed another comment. So here it is. Enjoy.
Comment by Karl on 7/11 @ 2:17 am #
Just got back from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Not to spoil anything, but — as in the series — He Who Is Not To Be Named really needs to be named. And there are few as good as Jeff Goldstein at it.
Comment by Darth Bacon on 7/11 @ 3:21 am #
I just stumbled on this URL.
Is this some blog, or something?
Seriously, Jeff-
If you’re sitting in some highly computerized, multi-function chair that flies around, or opens beers, or does some stuff while you’re down there in your underground lair, please consider that you may well be the only blogger on the interwebtubenets who is capable (not to mention one of the few inclined to) of discussing the semantic, semiotic, and sociotropic nature of the threat America faces.
In the immortal words of Yaz, Don’t Go.
Comment by Darth Bacon on 7/11 @ 3:53 am #
Sorry…
I didn’t mean to say “nature”, so much as “elements”.
But I’m an inarticulate fool.
Comment by Warren Bonesteel on 7/11 @ 4:02 am #
Dispatches the bledge.
Con-tratemps? 42.
Hit with a sledge.
Feeling blue.
Wearily I sit here, pain and misery my only companions.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 7/11 @ 5:10 am #
““…timmah might prove to be one of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocaplypse.—
More like The 4 Riders of the Short Bus.
The one wearing the helmet.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 5:23 am #
There’s a kind of hush – all over the world – tonight
And now the waiting begins.
Comment by McGehee on 7/11 @ 6:00 am #
The long, dark dentist’s appointment of the soul.
Comment by Wind Rider on 7/11 @ 6:24 am #
Ciao bellas.
btw, got a light?
Thanks.
Comment by slackjawedyokel on 7/11 @ 6:32 am #
This may not mean anything at all, but last evening, just at dusk, I spied high in the western sky, illuminated by the rays of the setting sun, what appeared to be a lawn chair suspended from a hundred or more multi-colored helium balloons. As they drifted across the orange-streaked horizon, propelled inexorably by the breeze toward the Atlantic, I could just make out a tiny figure seated in the chair, its face almost totally obscured by huge aviator glasses. But I swear — I SWEAR — for a moment it looked like an armadillo.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 6:33 am #
Here’s something to get pissed about:
What a fucking nimrod.
Comment by mishu on 7/11 @ 6:54 am #
This can’t be real. Could it?
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 7:04 am #
Dan – That fucking wanker quit being relevant a long time ago, at least outside of his echo-chamber. Duncan and his troglodytes are a perfect example of what happens when all you have is vitriol.
Comment by david on 7/11 @ 8:05 am #
Sounds like somebody needs a hug.
Comment by Smedley on 7/11 @ 8:08 am #
That fucking wanker …. Duncan and his troglodytes are a perfect example of what happens when all you have is vitriol.
Oh, the beautiful irony.
Comment by timb on 7/11 @ 8:18 am #
For JD, who needs another hobby. I was perusing the site of the good professor and noted he commented on the passing of PW. Jeff, of course, had to respond. Here’s the response from 10:21 last evening:
Jeff said…
Are you serious? You hardly even made a blip on my radar screen, professor.
I answered all of your comments, and offered on several occasions to debate you on the issues you’ve raised.
You, in turn, ran away.
And who can blame you? As I intimated in an earlier comment, you are the intellectual equivalent of a spot of bad Mexican food: predictable going down, and given to repeating on those who make the mistake of swallowing what you have to offer.
The idea that your feckless, flaccid, and pretentious mental droopings had anything whatever to do with my site — which has been around since 2001 — shutting down for a bit, is laughable.
And that you could, for a moment, believe you hold that kind of intellectual power is a testament to your own delusions.
Face it, professor: maybe those evals you’ve been getting aren’t the product of dumb undergraduates not grasping your genius.
Instead, maybe they just see you for what you are: a tired and remarkably average scholar who is trying so desperately to find an edginess that it would come as no surprise to me were you show up to class one day wearing an earring and parachute pants — and dropping a little bit of Maya Angelou while you tap on some kettle drums.
Christ, what an ego!
10:21 PM
See, like Christ or King Arthur or MacArthur or Shiat Ali, Jeff says he will return. You can all rest easier. He will be back at some point. He needs traffic and links, like Dan pointed out and he’s been a busy guy lately. Give him a break and he will be back.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 8:33 am #
timb – thanks for posting that. You are a nice troll person, if you ask me.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 8:34 am #
timb, david, and smedley – There are many things about PW that many of us will miss. People such as yourselves will not be on that list.
Comment by a friend on 7/11 @ 8:37 am #
She who will not be named is now posting Mr Collins’ work contact information. I suggest that the Lane County sheriff’s office be flooded with complaints about the oft convicted stalker.
(541) 682-4150
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 8:38 am #
you take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 8:43 am #
oh. I was talking to JD, not to ‘a friend’, just so that’s clear and all. Crazy people suck. I think this is Mental Health Parity week btw.
Comment by david on 7/11 @ 8:48 am #
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Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 8:52 am #
wow. the crazy is epidemic.
Comment by Crank on 7/11 @ 8:56 am #
I think I heard Meadow trying to parallel park while Jeff was writing this.
Comment by Jonathan on 7/11 @ 9:02 am #
Okay, joke’s over. I contributed some of my hard-earned American credit to getting Jeff a laptop so I could guarantee my daily dose of literate snark, and by golly I’m going to get my credit-card’s worth. So while this has been an interesting experiment, I now require a 10,000-character meditation on intentionality, followed by a snark about Michael Moore. So let’s get cracking. Okay?
Jeff?
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 9:11 am #
I’m really not supposed to comment, for legal reasons, about the Frisch affair, but as it’s been a year and the legal process moves at a glacial pace, let me say this:
Frisch is still, a year later, posting on me and my family, despite restraining orders and injunctions (note: I have no involvement in the Frisch Timeline site or the Don’t Hire Deb Frisch site]. She’s now taken to posting the personal info about Dan at one of her sites.
As I wrote earlier — without trying to come back ostensibly — I suggest that you call the Lane County sheriff’s office: (541) 682-4150. Cross-state jurisdiction has long been the problem — the law simply isn’t set up as yet to deal expeditiously with the kinds of harassment Frisch continues to mete out, though progress on that front has been made — so in the mean time, it’s probably best to keep her local jurisdiction aware of her continuing efforts to harass people by way of the computer / phone.
Using the phone, I believe, is something law enforcement is more prepared to deal with.
Frisch is a repulsive creature, and I’m tired of keeping my mouth shut while I wait for the courts to work things out.
david –
You’re no longer welcome here. Don’t post again, please.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 9:12 am #
this is not bringing out the best in people
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 9:17 am #
sheesh – that was meant to follow #191. you’d think I’d learn.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 9:32 am #
This makes me heartsick.
How can someone so obviously narcissistic and deranged continue to find on-line venues that allow her to vent filth and attempt to ruin people’s lives because she doesn’t like their political views? The psychotic selfishness of this person is beyond comprehension.
No one, NO ONE deserves to put up with this just because of their personal viewpoint.
david: maybe next time you’ll attmpt to take into consideration past history before you make a complete asshat of yourself with your comments. Although I’m not holding my breath. Please, let the door hit you on the ass as you leave.
Jeff, you have my deepest condolences for this abomination to your family. Dan, hang in there. You still have friends who will fight for you.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 9:37 am #
Thanks, guys. Appreciate the heads up.
I’m going to get my local authorities involved, and the legal department here. I think I might cause considerably more trouble for SHMNBN than she’ll cause for me.
TW: historian power,
Comment by Steve on 7/11 @ 9:40 am #
The depths that some creatures will sink. Jeff, as a long time lurker, you have my support.
Comment by McGehee on 7/11 @ 9:49 am #
Not that this is an open thread or anything, but this strikes me as potentially of interest, in an intentionalist sort of way.
Comment by ThePolishNizel on 7/11 @ 9:55 am #
FWIW, you have my support too, Jeff. Take care of yourself.
And let’s face it david was always the most loathesome, and downright useless, troll that I’ve witnessed here. The good “perfesser ummm” may be manning (is that the correct verbage in regards to a womens studies prof?) that role now, though. So TTFN david, ya little scamp.
Comment by PC on 7/11 @ 9:59 am #
ok what the hell is going on here?
Jeff is really leaving? what does that mean “shutting down for a bit”?
And how come there was no warning?? I know I’m not here every single day, but DAMN
I’m going to be having withdrawal issues!
Comment by Kirk on 7/11 @ 10:05 am #
Can’t say that I will be missing david much. As cancers go, he was one of the less desirous ones.
1/2 TWs: repulsive
Comment by Karl on 7/11 @ 10:09 am #
In addition to phoning the relevant local law enforcement authorities, I wonder whether the blogs identified in the timeline need to be brought to Google/Blogspot’s attention and shut down. On the one hand, she should not be permitted to violate a restraining order. OTOH, if they are shut down, she’ll just start new ones… and trhe violation of a court order may be better taken up with the judge who issued it. Just something to consider/discuss.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/11 @ 10:21 am #
Karl,
Does Jeff have to use his lawyer in order to bring it to the judge’s attention? Is there a mechanism to do so without using the attorney ‘of record’ (with his attendant bill)?
Jeff,
If I wanted to buy 15 minutes of your attorney’s time as “a gesture of solidariety” (’cause I’m really “into” that), how much would it run?
TW future offenders How the hell did it know?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 10:24 am #
More on Luisa Fernanda here. Picture here.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 10:37 am #
I guess I should note that Frisch has recently taking to making “jox”– and posting pictures — of the dead child of a blog commenter on another site.
In addition to this, she’s made “jox” about the epileptic wife of another blogger. Something about her being “twitchy” — and wondering what it must be like to “hump” or “phuque” her.
This is what used to teach children and work as a consultant in decision science for the FBI.
Bask in its warmth.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 10:46 am #
And yes, I’ve been dealing with this stuff CONSTANTLY, which has caused me to take time off, lose readers, etc.
Early on, I had a lot of support from other bloggers. But lately, not so much. Loss of traffic has meant lost revenue.
Not everyone has abandoned me entirely, though. So let me take the time now to say thanks to, among the bigger bloggers, Glenn Reynolds, for continuing to keep me afloat with his shows of support and encouragement.
Frisch has once again — with no provocation — stepped up her assault on me, my site, my family and my friends.
Which means I am simply going to redouble me efforts to put a stop to it.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 10:49 am #
My God, Jeff, I just read through some of that stuff, including the court document for the permanant injunction. That woman needs to be in a psychiatric hospital getting serious care for whatever teh craziness possesses her. I can’t possibly imagine what your family must have gone through over the last year.
I’m asking the same question as Rick Ballard.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 7/11 @ 10:52 am #
Update : Jeff will be running Cindy Sheehan’s campaign.
Comment by Ed on 7/11 @ 11:00 am #
You have our full support, Jeff and Dan.
Comment by Rob B. on 7/11 @ 11:06 am #
You do what you have to do. Family comes first. Every time.
Comment by timb on 7/11 @ 11:06 am #
Hey, JD, [attempting to change subject from the HER] do you ever listen to Greg Garrison. BTW, this obviously has nothing to do with the thread, but I wanted to ask JD a question. I apologize to the rest of you for the OT question
Comment by PC on 7/11 @ 11:11 am #
oh fuck. so this has to do with that crazy stalker again!?
Man I been outta the loop. Any possibility she’s gonna get sent to a psych ward so we can have our blog back?
*SIGH*
Comment by timb on 7/11 @ 11:13 am #
sorry that post was meant for before I left to file and I forgot to check the most recent posts. Prior to Jeff’s comments I wanted to ask JD that question. In light of Jeff’s most recent comments, it sounds like I was running interference for her. I don’t want folks to think that. Good luck to you, Jeff
Comment by Jonathan on 7/11 @ 11:13 am #
Re: 191 — Okay, I didn’t understand what was going on so that comes across as being in wretchedly poor taste, for which I apologize. For what it’s worth, Jeff, your site is so wonderfully quirky that I assume everything here is a complex jest until proven otherwise — and that’s a good thing. So please, accept my apology and my support.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 11:17 am #
Yes, timb, I do, from time to time. He is not really my cup of tea, but it passes the time. Right now, I am trying to get a $10,000+ property tax bill reassessed, so I am more than a little cranky, as you may have noticed. I would rather have to deal with property taxes than teh krazy that Jeff is dealing with.
Jeff – If there is anything that we can do, other than to patiently await your return, do not hesitate to let us know. Those that have stood by you should be remembered, and those that did not were not real friends to begin with.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 11:17 am #
SWMNBN reminds me of my son when he was about 4 years old. He continually would launch himself screaming into the pool despite the fact that he couldn’t swim and Dad was going to have to fish him off the bottom. My wife, a Red Cross certified lifeguard and instructor, told me to count to ten after he had submerged until I yanked him out of the water.
He never did that again.
Unfortunatly it appears that you (and everybody else involved in this enterprise) have to count to a gazillion before teh genius gets the message.
What an utterly infuriating situation.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 11:21 am #
That permanent injunction is disturbing. That judge should be commended.
Comment by Beck on 7/11 @ 11:24 am #
Illegitimi non carborundum
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 11:25 am #
Alas, the injunction is of now just preliminary. In civil trials, it takes a long time to come to a final judgment. In the meantime, the monster just continues apace.
TWs: jejune process
Wow. Sometimes this thing even scares me.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 11:33 am #
Jeff – just know that there are a number of us that are thinking of you and your family, and this bizarro fiasco that you are being forced to endure. I know that we would do anything within our limited powers to help out, just ask.
Dan – Likewise to you, as apparently teh krazy has got you in her sights now. Do not hesitate to ask.
TW : 24,234,021 bars. And I think I had a beer in almost every one when I was drinking.
Comment by eLarson on 7/11 @ 11:38 am #
Jeff, I too wish to apologize for my flippant remark earlier.
This is a serious matter and I, too, believed–okay, hoped–this post was all an elaborate jest.
I’ll be happy to help in any way possible.
Comment by Percy Dovetonsils on 7/11 @ 11:39 am #
Good lord, Jeff. This is just a fucking nightmare.
Comment by timb on 7/11 @ 11:52 am #
How much did yours go up?
Comment by Matt Knowles on 7/11 @ 11:56 am #
If you can call to mind the image of Cindy Lou Who standing there in her night gown with her teddy bear dragging on the floor as she watches the Grinch try to make off… well, I’m sad to see you go, Jeff. Here’s hoping you make it back… again.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 11:56 am #
timmah – We recently purchased a home (which I invited you and your family to on the 4th), and the taxes were estimated at $6800 annually. Our old home was $3800. When our property tax bill came, it was for $10,250 and some change.
Comment by McGehee on 7/11 @ 11:59 am #
There are times when I think I’d like to take the universe by the throat and slap it around — but I know the universe is bigger than me and can easily beat the snot out of me if I tried it.
I think the difference between me and people like SWMNBN is that I don’t want the universe to beat the snot out of me. Whatever illusion of my importance it might generate would be dwarfed by the pain and humiliation of having to mop up all that snot.
Because you just know the universe ain’t gonna clean it up.
Comment by Techie on 7/11 @ 11:59 am #
Jeff, you’ve got my full support. I only wish that I was in some sort of position to actually contribute to all of this. It truly sucks being a starving graduate student living on stipends.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 12:00 pm #
no apologies necessary. Unless you happen to be one of the trolls. In which case, feel free. Though I won’t hold my breath.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 12:09 pm #
Alright, this mess is really beginning to piss me off. That fucking lunatic is fucking up my enjoyment of the internet. I am no lawyer, and no fan of the plaintiff bar, but since her actions are having a direct and foreseeable negative impact on my enjoyment of life’s simple pleasures, isn’t there some kind of action that could be brought against her? How about a class action suit for those that have been denied their enjoyment of Jeff’s musings, due to her deliberate psychotic warbling?
In addition, I cannot fucking believe that she is so full of teh krazy that she now wants to increase the number of people she is shitting on by dragging Dan Collins into the mix.
There is an old saying about people not being given more than they are capable of handling, and I am confident that Jeff and Dan will deal with her decisively, if not swiftly. But dammit, that krazy bitch is screwing with my/our internet experience, and there must be something we can do.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 12:26 pm #
JD:
SWMNBN has demonstrated, time and again, that she’s building a two story house with half of her tools missing. She’s simply not operating in the same reality that the rest of the world understands. If she weren’t such a vile, vicious little weasal she would be worthy of pity and intervention. As it stands, she will have to be stomped on hard (legally) before any “healing” takes place.
What a waste of time and life.
Comment by timb on 7/11 @ 12:26 pm #
You JUST bought the house and taxes went up that much? Must suck to be rich? . Geez, the tax on my house is like 1200 (maybe I should re-check that). I feel like a major pauper compared to you, JD.
Remind me to sue you once I pass the bar. No one should have more than me, which may explain a lot, because almost everyone does!
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 12:27 pm #
I want the fuckin’ ‘dillo to dance again, and this mangy faux intellectual hippie that dry humps concrete poles is keeping the little shelled fella’ from getting his groove on. Maybe we could bring a class action on behalf of disaffected four-legged creatures with shells, that like to guzzle tequila, gnaw on ’shrooms, and play with strippers, all while wearing a sombrero, a bandolier, and a western holster, complete with pearl handled 6-shooters. Keeping the ‘dillo under wraps cannot be healthy.
Them ‘dillos got rights, ya know. Maybe Silkie could channel the spirit of the ‘dillo for us.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 12:30 pm #
timb – 3 months. We are hardly rich, we just spend our money wisely. We bought a home from a bank for $xxx,xxx, and after a few improvements, the appraised value is $275,000 more than what we paid. Good investment.
Once you pass the bar? Good God, help us all.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 7/11 @ 12:31 pm #
Good luck Jeff. My sympathies to you and your family. Hopefully this is only a brief hiatus. Your friends and fans will be glad when you’re back.
Comment by Jim in KC on 7/11 @ 12:37 pm #
Unfortunately, the court system certainly is taking its own sweet time grinding what’s-her-name into dust. I don’t envy Jeff at all, having to put up with this crap.
BTW, JD, good luck on the property taxes. Ours quadrupled two years ago(?!) but we were able to get it reassessed and lowered significantly based on a then recent refinance appraisal.
Comment by Lazar on 7/11 @ 12:37 pm #
Regards, Jeff, God bless.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 12:43 pm #
Jim in KC – The appraisal is what is going to kill us, as it came back $275,000 than we paid. We are going to argue that the home was on the market for almost a year, and we paid what it was worth, regardless of what it is appraised at. We actually got it for a steal, but I cannot see how their assessment can be so much higher than what the market would bear, since nobody would pay their assessed value when it was on the market.
In the end, I will take whatever steps I can take, and if not successful, I will just take comfort in the new homestead, incredible schools, great neighbors, and great neighborhood.
Comment by eLarson on 7/11 @ 12:47 pm #
A thought: is what’s-er-name’s attorney’s name/address a matter of public record? Does he/she know what his/her client is up to?
Comment by helpful on 7/11 @ 12:53 pm #
eLarson: As best as we know, debbie’s “pro se” all teh way. She had an attorney for awhile…but they had a falling out.
Now debbie mocks her former attorney on her blog from time to time.
:p
Comment by Jim in KC on 7/11 @ 12:55 pm #
JD, you got an appraisal when you bought it that said it was worth $275,000 more than you paid for it, or that’s how the county assessed it? If it’s the first, you’re likely screwed. If you have an appraisal from when you bought it that’s more in line with what you actually paid, that might help.
Our appraisal was probably a bit low compared to the home’s actual value, but they were really only interested in establishing that it was worth enough to support the loan we were getting. Didn’t say that on the appraisal, though, which made it a useful tool. We took it in to the county and said, “Look, these guys said it was worth $x nine months ago, so what crack are you smoking to value it at $y today? And can I have some?”
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 1:00 pm #
Jim – It is the first scenario. The appraisal when we purchased the home was significantly higher than what we paid, and after some improvements, we had it appraised again, which was not quite as high as the assessed value.
What gets me is that it is supposed to be a market driven assessment, and the market price is what we were able to pay for it, not what the assessor thinks it should have been sold for. If they do not buy that argument, I am fucked. $10,000 a year in property taxes is a bite in the ass, but like I said, something we will gladly pay, if we must, in exchange for a good education for our daughter, and a comfortable standard of living.
Comment by JHoward on 7/11 @ 1:01 pm #
Given your financial state, timmeh, had you considered getting all your pals together — you know, like use the Internets and the Democrat party or something — and forcing envy-reduction-by-State using simple majority pressure? I bet Hilary would run with that, and I KNOW Edwards would. And we ALL know the world would be a better place, what with forced distribution being so compassionate and all.
So go for it. We could call it the Bread and Circuses Plan to End My Coveting Your Shit. I doubt the Constitution would put up much of a fight these days.
Speaking of compassion, Jeff, you’re still too nice a guy. Go forth and doeth to others. And to the rest of your slackers, send Jeff (or Mrs. Jeff) something. I agree that moonbat has wrecked my Internets pleasure and I want to get this particular neocon back ASAP.
Comment by Liberrocky on 7/11 @ 1:06 pm #
Apparently all terrorists are not muslim after all.
Comment by PhoneTechnicianinaTimeofRoaming on 7/11 @ 1:07 pm #
Hope you keep it up Jeff, but if you don’t, good luck and Godspeed.
Comment by Zelda on 7/11 @ 1:09 pm #
Jeff, I’m so sorry to hear about this. I enjoy your blog including your guest bloggers tremendously. I’ve commented once or twice, but mostly I’ve just read avidly.
This woman is building such bad karma, I’m cosmically terrified. She and Eliot Stein need to have their own island, preferably as barren as their atrophied minds.
Best of luck to you and Dan. If there is anything I can do (blog-wise) for either of you, please let me know.
Comment by Kat on 7/11 @ 1:16 pm #
Jeff-
Lomgtime lurker here, love your blog and read it almost every day. Come back soon, you are an AWESOME writer! I really liked your thoughts on “diversity” contributing to racism in this country- I think that was after the Supreme Court decision on racial quotas in schools. Spot on…
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/11 @ 1:19 pm #
JD,
Go here, type in your address and create a spread sheet from the data generated in recent sales. Tack it onto your letter to the assessor (usually an elected official, btw) and watch what happens.
They back down fast when presented with actual data and recent sales count – “appraisals” don’t.
Don’t forget – they are there to “help” you. Use caution.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 1:21 pm #
Oh, Great, now SWMNBN has posted an E-Mail that she sent to the Shelburne, VT township office asking for information about Dan:
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:19 PM
To: bmarcher@shelburnevt.org
Subject: Contact Form Request
“I’ve been harassed by rightwing nutcases on the internet for a year and today I traced one of the ringleaders to vermont teddy bear company.
dan collins, an employee there, talks about cockslapping his opponents.
not very good publicity for the teddy bare company!”
This woman is a virus. I wrote Betty Marcher and explained, in very polite language, the history with SWMNBN and directed her to the database and the copy of the court injunction and gave her a link to SWMNBN’s website to request that her information be removed.
Sheez!
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 1:23 pm #
My thanks again for the timely heads up, and thanks to JD for the phone call. I’ve got an appointment at 10 am tomorrow to formally file my complaint, and then it will be faxed to the local authorities to serve her. I find this even stranger, because I tried to give SWMNBN good advice, and have been less vituperative towards her, given my opinion of her psychological and addiction problems, than many. Now I’m committed to making this a significantly larger problem for her than it will be for me, and I have no doubt that I’ll be able so to do.
As luck would have it, I am also invited to a wedding in Seattle in August, so I may be able to present myself to the local authorities in person.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 7/11 @ 1:27 pm #
Ah, “pro se”. The wunnerful status that allows the malignant idle to drag the rest of us into court.
Comment by Major John on 7/11 @ 1:28 pm #
Jeff, My experience as an Assistant State’s Attorney was that you have to make the local authorities (where the respondent is located)aware of the RO first and foremost – from there it is a crap shoot – but at least you have done the first thing you can. I wish I could help more – if you think of anything I can do, e-mail me.
Comment by Steve on 7/11 @ 1:30 pm #
I found this in one of the comments on SWMNBN’s website
Anonymous said…
http://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067
Rick the prick Ballard
July 11, 2007 9:52 AM
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 1:31 pm #
They are aware of the RO. Getting the local authorities to enforce an out of state RO and preliminary injunction is another matter.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 1:32 pm #
I also had a meeting this afternoon with the legal department, who made a formal draft of my complaint. So, all I’ll have to do is swear out on the document and sign it, and it will become part of her illustrious record. I may also have a lead on where she expects next to be employed, and found what is likely some family information, though it’s my determination to leave them out of it. As usual, teh doctor seems not to have any conception of the possibility that someone else’s chops and resources might be superior to her own. Thanks, Zelda and all, for your good graces.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 1:33 pm #
Rick – Thanks ! They have one of my neighbors houses listed for $850K+, which will not help me out, since theirs is 2000 sf smaller than ours. :-(
My biggest concern is that is we dispute the valuation, the assessor will likely come back out, and will see the improvements made since their last physical inspection, and increase their assessment even more.
What bothers me is that this property was for sale, and nobody bought it until we came along, and negotiated with the bank. I do not want to drive down the value of my neighbors homes, but am I crazy to think that the value of our home, considering the time and price on the market, is the price we paid for it? I think another big stumbling block will be that the home was originally built for a Home-A-Rama by a local custom builder, and somebody paid in the neighborhood of the assessed value, 4 years ago. However, they went bankrupt, and the property returned to the bank.
I may just have to bend over and take it, like Paris at a frat party.
Comment by dicentra on 7/11 @ 1:36 pm #
SWMNBN has a personality disorder that thrives on conflict. Unless she’s making someone else’s life a nightmare, she’s not “happy.” Unfortunately, the fact that people fight back against her makes her feel important. OTOH, not fighting back isn’t much of an option either. She’ll strike until she gets a reaction. Kinda like a terrorist, ne?
What a sad, sad life she’s had and will continue to have. She needs to be committed to an institution, but judging on how hard it is to involuntarily commit someone (VATech shooter), it won’t happen.
One can only hope that… oh hell, I shouldn’t say it. But you all know what I mean.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 1:37 pm #
Zelda – FWIW, I rather enjoy your blog too. Sometimes it kind of reminds me of a female version of this place ;-)
Comment by ThePolishNizel on 7/11 @ 1:38 pm #
My God! Good luck to you too Dan! The woman’s a kook, no doubt about it.
Comment by Sinistar on 7/11 @ 1:38 pm #
Jeff, I visited PW from time to time and have always liked it. I think you’re a great writer, even though sometimes your stuff is a bit cerebral for me. I hope you can put all these things to rest for good and things can go back to normal.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 1:40 pm #
Jethro is one lucky man !
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 1:40 pm #
Normal?
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 1:46 pm #
Normal is one of those relative terms.
Dan – Sorry to bother you at work. I am still amazed that she chooses to expand her battlefield.
BTW – the video of her dry-humping the concrete pole is priceless, and more than a bit disturbing.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 1:51 pm #
JD–Naw, nice talking to you.
As one of the startled onlookers said, “Dr. Frisch, I presume?”
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 1:59 pm #
Many of you have written to ask me about the kid/twitchy thing (above). Helpful stuff in that regard here.
Note: I am not affiliated with the site or its administrators.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 2:02 pm #
Just got off of the phone with a cousin who works for a major law firm, who recommends that I make the local authorities a part of a civil complaint, since they seem not very keen to apprehend her. Interesting prospect. Sounds time consuming, but I may have to go there. Probably not till I’m back in VT towards the end of August.
Comment by marcus on 7/11 @ 2:03 pm #
Jeff, I wish you and your family all the best as you continue to deal with this. As Frisch expands her threats/libel to include more and more people, the chances of her being shut down will rise considerably (I hope).
Comment by McGehee on 7/11 @ 2:10 pm #
The trouble with that is, what happens if the reaction she gets actually manages to be out of proportion to the trouble she’s caused?
So far she’s managed not to pick on anyone as psychotic as herself, but past performance does not guarantee future results.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 2:13 pm #
McGehee–don’t you be giving away my secrets, man.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 2:15 pm #
Dan – Next time you talk to your cousin, could you find out if we, as a community, would have any standing to bring a collective action against tehfuckingkrazybulldykebroadwhosenameishallnevermention ? There is bound to be some plaintiff lawyer that would be willing to delve into this area.
Comment by McGehee on 7/11 @ 2:17 pm #
Dan, unless you’re older than me, it was my secret first.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 2:18 pm #
Sure, JD, but I think that you’d have to be able to prove harm. I’m not sure that this rises to the level of loss of consortium.
Also, given her bad luck with “pseudo-husbands,” I don’t think she’s a bulldyke.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 2:19 pm #
The only problem would be that she, by her stated word, is acting intentionally, which would preclude coverage under nearly any insurance policy, and likely is judgment-proof. But, if it could just get her to quit fucking with people and things that we enjoy, it would be worth it.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 2:19 pm #
Well, we can always chalk it up to being Celts, though.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 2:20 pm #
Ace is up with a post on teh crazy succor and Jeff’s leaving.
http://minx.cc/?post=233242
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 2:23 pm #
With the broadening of what constitutes injury and harm these days, that should not be a problem. I would think that intentional infliction of emotional distress would be a possibility as well.
Why did I think she was a bull dyke? Somebody married her ?!?! Jeebus freaking Christ. The thought of that is positively chilling. See, there she goes chilling free speech.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 2:27 pm #
Not married, per se, JD. They shacked up and described it as such. Long story, no payoff.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 2:33 pm #
I think the world has quit turning. Ace describes her as a lesbian, though clearly not the good kind of lip-stick lesbian, or bi-sexual hotties that we all love. The image of her straddling that lamp pole, bumping and grinding, is likely to be seared, seared I tell you, into my memory. Must go hit golf balls, and my opponents lying about their handicaps will briefly take my mind off of this travesty.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 2:35 pm #
JD, Dan:
Gee, thanks for that. Can you tell me, by dumping Professional Strength Liquid Plumber into one ear, will that wipe away the image that you two have just presented?
Or will I have to pull out the Makita Jig Saw…
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 2:36 pm #
If you were bedding teh insanedoublekrazymakesmichaelmoorelooksaneandjeanninegarafalolookcutebulldyke, would you be able to “pay off”. No money shots with that thing in the same area code !
Comment by mishu on 7/11 @ 2:38 pm #
Jeff, my thoughts and prayers are with you as well as that poor lamp post too. I wonder how many buckets of bleach were needed to clean that thing.
Comment by JD on 7/11 @ 2:39 pm #
BJ – You should ask timmah, as he has far more experience with things going in one ear, and immediately out the other.
Though to give your question its due, Liquid Plummer is not likely to be effective. Erasing images of freakygranolawestcoastkrazylesbianprofessors has shown to only be possible by viewing videos of Rosie shaving her back hair.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 2:43 pm #
Well, her former lesbian pseudo-husband with daughter dumped her in the wake of last summer’s events, which caused her to latch ever the more tightly to Jeff, since . . . well, at least she had him, you know? I can’t be held responsible, as a legal matter, for what it is you picture in your mind’s eye. Unless John Edwards becomes president.
Comment by Karl on 7/11 @ 2:47 pm #
If getting the RO enforced is a problem, someone, I don’t know who, just sayin’ someone, like an attorney, might approach the Lane County Sheriff (an elective office) and just obliquely comment on the amount of financial support there is in the blogosphere for law enforcement, ’cause we really like it when the law is enforced.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 2:48 pm #
Oh, you can’t be held responsible, eh? What about if I HIRED JOHN EDWARDS TO SUE YOUR ASS FOR LOSS OF MENTAL TRANQUILLITY? CHANNEL, HE WILL CHANNEL MY DISTRESS FOR THE JURY AND YOU WILL PAY, COLLINS!
BWAAAAA HAHAHAHAHA! (..urp..)
See what you made me do….
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 2:54 pm #
and … JD
Rosie shaving her back hair?
Consider yourself a co-defendant. MY SILKY PONY WILL MAKE ME TEH RICHES AND YOUR 20,000 SQ. FT. HOME ARE TO BELONG TO ME!
Pressure. Behind. Eyes.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/11 @ 2:58 pm #
There is a nice and eminently reusable narrative which appears interminably on the Lifetime network (please, don’t ask) that involves the results of failure by the local police to enforce restraining orders.
Far be it from me to suggest the writing up of such a narrative to be submitted to an ace reporter for a cyber stalker’s hometown paper in order to influence the police to take a more active interest in enforcement. ‘Cause LE is just never, ever responsive to bad publicity. ‘Cept when they are.
Comment by TheNewGuy on 7/11 @ 3:00 pm #
Over? Did you say “over??”
Nothing’s over until we decide it is! Was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?
(donation sent, Jeff… take a break, we’ll be here when you get back)
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 3:02 pm #
BJ–you’d have to establish that you had previously experienced mental tranquility.
Neocons don’t experience mental tranquility.
Ergo, directed judment.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 3:04 pm #
BTW, Rich, that’s genius.
But, you know . . . it’s Eugene.
Comment by timb on 7/11 @ 3:04 pm #
JD, while the internet has provided some wonderful opportunities to expand legal theories, there is no tort issue in what you describe. More to the point, what would have to gain? Lawsuits are about money and civil suits compel folks to do something only because it might cost more money NOT to do it. In Jeff’s case, there is no money and only a contempt citation. Judge’s will throw people in jail for that (ask Judith Miller), but they reluctant to enforce civil actions with “criminal” penalties. For instance, Mrs. Miller was easily jailed because she was obstructing a criminal investigation.
Dan’s cousin has a great idea for Dan and Jeff, but I doubt one locality’s court can make another’s act unless there is mutual good will (welcome to the downside of Federalism). With that said, soon her level of harassment could rise to a criminal complaint. For instance, does Oregon have a stalking law? If so, could it apply?
Seriousness aside and remembering you’re all small government conservatives who seeking governmental remedies, maybe you can have the President declare her an enemy combatant. First, She’s clearly as competent as the dolts in the UK, who couldn’t light gasoline. Secondly, she’s bonkers and hates us for our freedom. Thirdly, PW might be the last place on Earth where George Bush could see 200 people who support him gathered in one place.
He freed Scooter; he could jail her!
Returning from annoying you with my analytical powers, I’m afraid short of some new laws, that there is no tort to solve this loss of consortium problem.
By the way, I was in Carmel for the fireworks, so maybe I passed by your new house? Sounds like you’re right in that you got a fantastic deal, improved the property and are now going to pay the taxes for it. Despite the tax problem, nice business acumen. That’s capitalism at its finest.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 3:05 pm #
Oops–RicK!
TW: Psychology dull
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/11 @ 3:09 pm #
“But, you know . . . it’s Eugene.”
S’OK – remember, women and children first – Dad’s busy caring for spotted owls with broken wings when he’s not restoring salmon streams.
Comment by eLarson on 7/11 @ 3:11 pm #
(welcome to the downside of Federalism)
Why did I just get a flash of “interstate commerce” right then? I’m not saying “interfering with interstate commerce” or anything. I’m just saying…
To ACTUALLY say it would be “beneath Jeannette”. Who’s Jeannette, Dr. Turing?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 3:14 pm #
tim,
My whole purpose in this is simply to make this expensive for her, psychically and otherwise, without really going out of my way. I’m willing to fulfill all technical requirements for the authorities, and should my cousin decide to assign someone to deal with this pro bono, a lawyer. Emotionally, though, I’m going to treat this as a lark, because I have no expectations. If she’s not punished for this in the short term, I don’t much care. Eventually, she’ll overplay her hand again, and this will be part of the aggregate that buries her.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 3:17 pm #
Timmy. Don’t post here anymore.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/11 @ 3:24 pm #
Dan, it seems as though taking Sinner’s attitude of “ain’t no big thang” is the best punishment. SWMNBN can’t help herself. Eventually, between you and Sinner and Jeff and all of the other people she harasses she’ll be buried from the ‘tubes or spend a lovely stretch in a local prison.
It’s really a shame that Jeff doesn’t have the same opportunities to brush this off. I hope he (legally) crushes her like the crazed bug she is.
Trackback by baldilocks on 7/11 @ 3:25 pm #
Teh Crazy Surfaces…
Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom has quit blogging again. Since he recently overhauled his site, I suspected that the abrupt, initially unexplained decision had something to do with the nut job and pervert Deborah Frisch. As it turns out, it…
Comment by R. Sherman on 7/11 @ 3:31 pm #
Well, I’ve been a reader here for two years (enjoyed every minute) and never posted a comment. Now I have two in the same thread. Probably because I thought the post was a joke.
Mr. Goldstein, I wish you and yours well and hope you return soon.
Comment by Joseph on 7/11 @ 3:34 pm #
Dang … I had thought this was one of Jeff’s joke posts.
Jeff, you’ve got my full support. I hope justice is rendered quickly and fully in your case.
Comment by Bane on 7/11 @ 3:38 pm #
It occurs to me that there is a Federal agency designed to handle criminality that crosses state lines. I’d bet there’s something nifty in the Patriot Act, too.
Comment by Drive-by attorney on 7/11 @ 3:57 pm #
The First Amendment will eventually be usurped by those who espouse their rights to speak over the rights of others not to listen. And then the tyranny of the minority holds sway.
Spit.
Comment by Darrell Gregg on 7/11 @ 4:05 pm #
I knew #188 was the work of “the mind that does not sleep” and then a rousing post later a 9:11 (co-inky dink? I think not!) and on 7/11!! (co-inky dink? I think not not!).
So what we have here is a string of 11’s…. which is surely a sign…. the evidence is mounting… JG is alive and well, mostly well… a little pissed off… a little frustrated…. but gloriously poised to mount the alter of “things that are really important and worthy of getting more of”.
Do what you have to do, come back to us soon, we all miss you…
I can’t say more than what has been said but to echo Dan C at bloddy scott (that fritczhldzthbnpqssszzz thingy, man German even reads harshly!!!))…. you really have enlightened me and plus, like, you allow me to, like totally feel smart because, like, I can actually, like, understand that stuff you write…
I know, it’s weird huh?!!!
Hurry back!
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 4:05 pm #
It’s not a big thang for me myself, so far. It has been for Jeff, and insofar as I care about that it HAS been a big thang for me. He took the steps he has taken reluctantly. Everyone who’s benefitted ought to take notice, and whether they realize it or not, they are legion.
I have nothing against Jeff’s counsel, particularly considering all of the abuse that he’s taken from SWMNBN, but I’m not certain he understands the potential importance of this case to his career.
Comment by cynn on 7/11 @ 4:08 pm #
As far as I know, protective orders are afforded full faith and credit across all jurisdictions, regardless of where they were issued. And in Denver, and probably in Oregon, a violation of a valid restraining order is a separate criminal offense. Not sure about an injunction, but maybe that’s incorporated into the terms of the RO.
Comment by dicentra on 7/11 @ 4:17 pm #
No harm, Gracie? What about the loss of revenue that ensues from Jeff not being able to display his mad blogging skillz on a continual basis because he has to keep dealing with a persistent nut job?
OTOH, nameless’s suggestion about “enemy combatant”: hey, that has a nice ring to it. If you add “illegal,” it fits nicely into the Geneva conventions. A little stay at Club Gitmo couldn’t HURT.
Unless she’s allergic to halal meals.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 4:17 pm #
I’ve requested that the site administrators leave up the one site she still has leff (as far as I know), so that she can continue to post drunkenly. Please don’t interfere with this.
Comment by commander0 on 7/11 @ 4:20 pm #
This is a tremendous loss for me. At first I tossed it off as another drama post. I seem to recall there was a previous one and frankly am surprised that she has prevailed. What more could she do. Nonetheless, Jeff, you have a life to live. I shall miss you. There was no other site that combined an intellectual acumen, metalinguistic and hermeneutic, to even come within a mile of this one. I like Dan and all but for sheer creative and, if you will, cryptic genius there is only one Goldstein. One of the quoted blurblets in the upper left corner alluded to the fact that he thought there was some secret code and half the words were left out. Well, yeah, that was part of the fun. I think that pure genius has been silenced by a reprehensible slag. I weep (Well not really, because I have a cock I slap people with and that keeps me whole in all kinds of weather.) You were the best, Jeff. Never forget that.
TW “that redemption” Who’s?
Comment by commander0 on 7/11 @ 4:23 pm #
I have nothing to add except the latest turing incarnation is “severest stimulus”. GOLDSTEIN LIVES!
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 4:32 pm #
Cripes. You’re making me feel like the Matt Dillon in Rumblefish.
Comment by Pablo on 7/11 @ 4:37 pm #
It’s a crime in Colorado, not in Oregon. And there is a warrant for her arrest that the Eugeniacs don’t seem interested in pursuing.
Now, if Jeff were a woman, he’d probably be having better lick getting her incarcerated/committed.
Comment by Pablo on 7/11 @ 4:39 pm #
That should be “luck”.
Ewwwww…
Comment by Dewclaw on 7/11 @ 4:44 pm #
Could it be time for the most awesomest word to describe Dr. Psycho?
TWATWAFFLE!!
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/11 @ 4:48 pm #
I’ve just gotten off of the phone with one of my state reps, asking that he bring a very stringent cyberharrassment bill to the floor when they reconvene next month. It’s the kind of thing that’s his cup of tea. I’m hopeful.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/11 @ 4:50 pm #
“It’s a crime in Colorado”
So there’s a warrant out in Colorado? Should we start a bounty fund? Nothing like a good fugitve chase…
Comment by Dewclaw on 7/11 @ 4:58 pm #
TEACHER’S VOICE
Goldstein?
TEACHER’S VOICE
Goldstein?
TEACHER’S VOICE
Goldstein?
GIRL’S VOICE
He’s sick.
(pause)
My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s
brother’s girlfriend heard from this
guy who knows this kid who’s going
with a girl who saw Jeff pass-out
at 31 Flavors last night. I guess
it’s pretty serious.
TEACHER’S VOICE
(weary)
Thank you, Simone.
GIRL’S VOICE
(cheery)
No problem whatsoever
Comment by Dewclaw on 7/11 @ 5:04 pm #
“So there’s a warrant out in Colorado? Should we start a bounty fund? Nothing like a good fugitve chase…”
What I wouldn’t pay to see Dawg fold ol Deb like a lawnchair…
Comment by JHoward on 7/11 @ 5:15 pm #
timmeh booted?! Excellent. What is it with pointless law studies adolescents around here, anyway. We all remember that other, um, whateverit was.
Bravo.
Comment by gail on 7/11 @ 5:21 pm #
Love you, Jeff.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 5:23 pm #
Drive-by attorney –
This has nothing whatever to do with anyone’s right to speak. I note you didn’t leave a real name, but had you — and had I begun posting accusations that you sexually molest your children all over the place, using your full name and your child’s name, so that search engines could collect and catalog the accusations — I doubt very much you’d be cracking wise from your high horse.
Comment by cjd on 7/11 @ 5:24 pm #
Wow. I’m late to the comment party here, hoping that Jeff was just joking. I’ve only commented a few times, mostly to be a wise-ass and occasionally thump alphoo about the head and shoulders, but I’ve always enjoyed coming here. Jeff, this just sucks, and I hope like hell I never have to deal with a nutcase the way you, Dan, and others are being forced to do. If you come back, it will be none too soon. But, I don’t have to tell you that your life and your family’s well-being is more important than any blog. Just do what you have to do.
And Dan, crank, Darleen, and all the other guest posters, I noticed you guys beating yourselves up regarding the quality of your posts vis-a-vis Jeff’s. Don’t sell yourselves short like that. I’ve always looked at this site as a group effort, with the commenters (minus myself) doing more than their fair share of adding to the content. So, in short, keep it up.
Comment by Pablo on 7/11 @ 5:25 pm #
Rick, see here. She’s also on probation.
Comment by dicentra on 7/11 @ 5:26 pm #
Hey, everybody make it a habit for the nonce to fly over here and click on some ads or something, just to keep the revenues flowing. Who’s up for that?
TW: alas associated
Indeed.
Comment by gail on 7/11 @ 5:34 pm #
Your work is absolutely unique, Jeff, and in addition to your brilliance, you have had the bravery to keep going in the face of unprecedented ugliness. I would have folded in minutes. The fact that I’m afraid to post on political matters is in no small measure due to my realization that I don’t have the balls for it. So I respect you all the more for keeping the fight going when people like me are cowering in the corners.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/11 @ 5:48 pm #
Pablo,
Looks like Emem Obanga (the ADA) needs to review reinstatement of the stalking charge which he dropped in exchange for the period of probation. Busting probation isn’t exactly like busting parole – no “back in the clink for you, sweetie” – but Mr[s]? Obanga can get some time with the county arranged for the delinquent fairly easily – maybe with a much longer probation period.
Comment by TBinSTL on 7/11 @ 5:49 pm #
I can say this because I’m not the one taking the heat here. It’s worth it!
Comment by R30C on 7/11 @ 5:51 pm #
just a suggestion, take dicentras idea a level higher and hit the tip jar instead of ads to help build a legal “war chest” for Jeff, I know it’s out of pocket but chances are he receives a higher percentage that way. But if you can’ then click all of the few ads, several times.
Comment by gail on 7/11 @ 6:00 pm #
It’s not just Frisch either. There are lots of people out there who are presumably sane but just as malicious, and who seem to think it’s their mission in life to make it impossible for people they disagree with politically to do really creative work. I don’t know how Jeff has managed for as long as this. I would be a zombie by now if my writing were subjected to the kinds of pressures that Jeff’s have been.
Comment by JWebb on 7/11 @ 6:08 pm #
I couldn’t have said it better than Gail. I spent a few hours late last night going through the archives. Breathtaking and stunning art, Jeff. And yes, balls. You must clank when you walk. Hang in there, friend.
Comment by thor on 7/11 @ 6:11 pm #
Yeah well, Debbie Frisfjkdls;a, wayward ho, tell her where to go and don’t let her keep you from happening. That labia licking lilliputian should be trembling and shaking, as it were, and not the other way around.
Jeff, you gots a real bum’s eye for words and the axiomatic. Keep firing cannonades broadside; it beats running through the halls wearing a cape.
Comment by Dewclaw on 7/11 @ 6:21 pm #
Jeff,
I’m going to be in Loveland on Friday for my sisters wedding. I really wish I had more time back home. I would love to buy you a beer (or a shot of Jameson’s) and shoot the poo over a steak dinner (my treat, of course).
I do the next best thing… I hit the tip jar. Go get a bottle of Jameson’s and raise one up. I’ll be doing the same and praying for a good ending for this unholy mess.
Comment by Sean Neves on 7/11 @ 6:23 pm #
Jeff,
This may be bad form or redundant, but how about a good old libel suit? What is going on crosses a line. And I can’t imagine the repercussions if the sexual roles were reversed here. Good luck and I can’t wait to read some more bent shit from you and Dan.
Comment by cynn on 7/11 @ 6:46 pm #
For what it’s worth, Mr. Goldstein, I disagree with much of your politics and some of your critical theory. You have been through serial attacks. But aren’t you relinquishing the narrative here? Haven’t you argued against falling silent (for whatever reason) for the sake of expedience? Get up, Champ. I’ll even try to figure out Paypal again if I have to.
Yours is a voice that my quarter considers dissent, if not opposition. It needs to be out there.
Comment by ss on 7/11 @ 7:10 pm #
Best of luck, Jeff and Dan.
Comment by ShakespeareW on 7/11 @ 7:11 pm #
When troubles come, they come not single pies,
But in several varieties, and mostly poo.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 7:19 pm #
Tomorrow morning I would like to see Dan’s morning linkiness. Also maybe Darleen has found stuff to supplement her Jerry Brown post. Maybe now you might refresh the ranks of your guestbloggers since a few of the first batch seem to have fallen away (hi dicentra). As an editorial experiment, maybe it would be worth having guestbloggers adopt particular issues and run with just those for awhile (e.g. climate change, nannystatism) … I think you could see a more consistent product while bringing in the strength of a variety of voices. This is just what I’m thinking. No one asked me.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/11 @ 7:26 pm #
I am not falling silent for the sake of expedience, cynn. I’m taking time off to talk to lawyers, file affidavits, take screen shots, call enforcement agencies, and raise a three year old who today learned to open up the back gate. Letting slip the dogs of warmongerers — whom I had to chase down and bring back home without the help of a leash.
I’ll be back when my head is clear and my tasks are done. Priorities.
Like nuance, only more conservativey.
Comment by mojo on 7/11 @ 7:43 pm #
I deference to Gail, I omit the obscenities that course through my sensorium at this news.
Lemme know if you need a real thorough look up somebody’s ass, Jeff. You know the addy.
‘Nuff said.
Comment by Alan Kellogg on 7/11 @ 7:45 pm #
Glad you caught the dogs, but have you seen the ‘dillo?
Comment by cynn on 7/11 @ 7:51 pm #
I guess we’ll let the real owner of the sitec, Dan Collins, do that dirty Irish thing, and be all blovient.
Comment by OregonMuse on 7/11 @ 7:54 pm #
Actually, the two guys I know here in Eugene who do salmon stream restoration are both conservatives. Funny how that works out.
God bless you, Jeff.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 7:54 pm #
Is Dan Irish? No one tells me anything.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/11 @ 8:02 pm #
“Letting slip the dogs of warmongerers  whom I had to chase down and bring back home without the help of a leash.”
I like to keep a baseball handy, and not one of those child-proof softies either. I’m talking dirty, sun-stretched-leather hard-as-a-rock official MLB baseball. When the dogs run for it, I like to bean one with a sinking fastball (4-seamer, of course). The surprise always makes them come back, tails looped between their legs. Come to think of it, a dust-off usually gets ‘em running back like a pack of senators after a bad polling.
Comment by fmfnavydoc on 7/11 @ 8:07 pm #
Jeff and Dan,
I’ve occasionally posted here, and enjoy this website. Don’t let “teh crazy” keep you off the web for too long. As I’ve been told, “put your flack jacket and helmet on, lock and load and don’t let the bastards win”.
Do the right thing – get her off the ‘net and behind bars.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/11 @ 8:09 pm #
Now if you’ve not had time to warm the arm up, there’s another fool proof way to bring the hounds back into the yard with minimal running on your part.
Just quickly work your way upwind of the pack, and then drop a duece in your yard. There’s not a dog this side of hell that can resist taking a nose-dive into an unfamiliar turd that’s been freshly plopped into his territory. Keep a lot of dog shampoo on hand, BTW.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/11 @ 8:15 pm #
When my dog would get out, what worked was to yell at him so he’d look my way and then fall down on the ground. He’d come right away and lick my face to make sure I was ok. He was a good dog.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/11 @ 8:16 pm #
Proven canine behavioral science aside, best regards. Hoping for the best possible outcome for you and your family.
Al
Comment by clarice on 7/11 @ 8:20 pm #
Whew! Sorry you have all this uneneding agita, but delighted to hear we haven’t lost one of the most brilliant and entertaining bloggers in the world.
Comment by km on 7/11 @ 8:22 pm #
Total Noob: You can say “fuck” here. Jeff won’t mind.
TW: Populism insists!
Comment by alppuccino on 7/11 @ 8:24 pm #
happyfeet’s method and my “strange duke” method ARE NOT to be combined.
Comment by Patrick on 7/11 @ 8:25 pm #
What is it with pointless law studies adolescents around here, anyway
Hey, I’m no adolescent! I don’t think timb is either, though it’s the first I’ve seen him mention school.
Jeff, I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again and again and again: you’re too important a voice to let the bastards grind you down like this. Your unique combination of erudition, wit, intelligence, analytical skill, and just plain balls put you right at the head of those defending the Enlightenment from the statists, barbarians, and know-nothings. Do what you have to do for your family and yourself, but please do return as soon as possible.
Comment by SarahW on 7/11 @ 8:35 pm #
Well, Fuck.
Just testing
And also, Fuck.
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Comment by Stephen M on 7/11 @ 8:41 pm #
Priorities.
Like nuance, only more conservativey.
The man is a genius.
God bless you Jeff Goldstein.
Comment by JHoward on 7/11 @ 8:43 pm #
Dan’s Irish? Dan, there’s this terrific little Irish bird lives near here who won’t accept my heartfelt pleas for cohabitation until time itself ends.
Sucks being virtually body-slammed by someone half your weight. Any advice? Any beverages involved?
Comment by Toby Petzold on 7/11 @ 8:53 pm #
Later, Jeff.
Comment by SarahW on 7/11 @ 9:18 pm #
Jeff G – The goose flies at midnight…and I think it might be blocking the email you should be getting from Amazon.
Comment by harrison on 7/11 @ 9:44 pm #
Good luck to y’all on your continuing crap.
Keep your head up, Jeff.
Comment by Tim P on 7/11 @ 10:38 pm #
Jeff,
I wish you the best in dealing with that deranged douche-bag and hope that your nightmare ends soon. Yours is one of the most articulate and unique voices on the net, or anywhere else. Please hurry back, I’ll miss my daily fix.
Trackback by The Cutting Edge on 7/11 @ 11:04 pm #
“Teh Krazy Ex-Doctor…”…
If there ever was a poster-child for human Ugliness (not the physical kind, per se, it seems Michael Moore is owning that one) in Spirit, it would have to be……
Comment by Hoodlumman on 7/11 @ 11:13 pm #
Nipple…
Comment by maggie katzen on 7/11 @ 11:43 pm #
uh, too much vodka Hood?
Comment by Hoodlumman on 7/12 @ 1:28 am #
Not really, Maggie. It’s just that while Jeff is on hiatus, I like to pay tribute by mentioning the subject of my favorite hilarious post on PW.
Comment by lonetown on 7/12 @ 4:01 am #
I’m keeping this link in my blog honor roll of stupendous sites.
Comment by Diana on 7/12 @ 4:14 am #
Comrade Hood is living a
depraveddeprived existence for a few days fostering Russo-Americo relations..Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 5:14 am #
JHoward–
I have always felt that the Irishwoman values playfulness and collaboration. Gravity she views as a species of morbidity. She is protean; can you remain in her dimension when she shifts shape? Difficult to capture, loyal to a fault, very warm, somewhat frightening. I’m sure that’s of enormous help.
Comment by Hoodlumman on 7/12 @ 5:17 am #
Diana – if relations can’t be improved over top notch vodka, they aren’t relationships that are worth having. *hic*
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Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 6:11 am #
JHoward,
So, in other words, buy all three seasons of Father Ted, and whatever’s available of Black’s Books, and dazzle her with your knowledge of both.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 6:17 am #
Oh, and also buy a copy of copy of The Best of Myles, and save big on psilocybin.
Comment by Ken Hahn on 7/12 @ 6:20 am #
Dan,
You might mention your cousin’s idea next time you call or visit the local authorities out there in Oregon. It might inspire them. Best of luck
Comment by Jess on 7/12 @ 6:33 am #
Y’all come back now, y’hear?
Or, one could say there’s a famine of thought in this ivory tower…
Comment by Veeshir on 7/12 @ 7:09 am #
Once again reinforcing my very low opinion of the human race.
You can’t have anything nice, ever. Some icehole just has to come along and ruin it.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 7:18 am #
Veeshir–Are you going to eat the rest of that?
Comment by kyle on 7/12 @ 7:31 am #
The 4-seamer is a “riding” fastball with less movement. You’ll want either a 2-seamer (along or across the narrow seams) or maybe even a little cutter to bean those puppies.
Godspeed, JG, and thanks for the endless provocation of thought
Comment by JHoward on 7/12 @ 7:34 am #
Comment by N. O'Brain on 7/12 @ 7:39 am #
“Comment by OregonMuse on 7/11 @ 7:54 pm #
Actually, the two guys I know here in Eugene who do salmon stream restoration are both conservatives. Funny how that works out.”
Well, not really. The best conservationists are land owners, hunters and fishermen, not watermelons.
TW: it’s a long way to tip a Rary.
Comment by locust on 7/12 @ 7:43 am #
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
Dont stop believin
Hold on to the feelin
Streetlight people
Dont stop-
Comment by happyfeet on 7/12 @ 7:45 am #
unsummarized, my news is
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 8:00 am #
I wonder whether he’s part of a Piranha Brothers scheme.
Comment by brian on 7/12 @ 8:06 am #
Dan – was there a table nailed to his head?
Comment by Jim in KC on 7/12 @ 8:11 am #
My Turing word would have been funnier if it had been Roman turd rather than Roman tured. I’m not sure what the latter is, frankly.
Checking some of the links in the thread, I see that SWMNBN has been very busy, indeed, making an ass of herself. Dan, good luck to you, too, in dealing with the predations of teh crazy.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/12 @ 8:24 am #
I guess he should have shaved, huh.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/12 @ 8:25 am #
I hope you took notice of her latest post today, Dan.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 8:33 am #
At heckallow? Yeah, I saw it.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/12 @ 8:40 am #
Time to start talking to her family about an intervention, I guess.
Comment by Major John on 7/12 @ 8:47 am #
Jeff, Is it possible that her family doesn’t know how whacked out she is? I would suspect they do… if they were going to help/intervene, would they have not done so already?
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 8:51 am #
There’s not much they can do, unless a judge sees fit to file an order. That doesn’t happen very often.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 8:52 am #
The key is that Deb believes her behavior is sensible, despite the evidence to the contrary.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/12 @ 9:40 am #
I can’t believe an indie film producer hasn’t made any inquiries yet. I don’t mean that in a crass way, just as a reflection of how… well, this is sort of a distillation of the times I think. Several people above invoked terrorism in discussing this, and what’s compelling about that is that the inability of law enforcement and authorities to effectively address the obvious injustices here, well, like I said, it’s sort of a distillation of the times I think.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/12 @ 9:59 am #
I clicked an ad and all I got was mild cognitive dissonance. Your mileage may very.
Comment by Swen Swenson on 7/12 @ 10:03 am #
Hang in, Jeff! Hope you can deal with Teh Crazy expediently and hurry back!
Comment by SarahW on 7/12 @ 10:08 am #
Happyfeet, though wouldn’t a good story require some resolution? Her threats and stalking will just keep everyone involved looking over their shoulders for years to come.
There is no good system for dealing with all the trouble mentally ill persons cause, and catch and release is just about as good as it gets. She acts with impunity and even if she didn’t, unless completely removed from opportunities to lash out, she won’t stop.
It digusts me there is no way to get her treated by force and taken away from the freedom to do harm, short of waiting for her to be introduced to the criminal justice system. She’s broken and she can’t fix herself. She belongs in a treatment facility away from normal people.
Comment by Kirk on 7/12 @ 10:14 am #
It is really sad to see someone self-distruct like this. If the professor has any friends left, now might be the time to become involved.
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 10:15 am #
Comment by kyle on 7/12 @ 10:18 am #
394th!
Comment by kyle on 7/12 @ 10:21 am #
aw, damn, dan! I so wanted 394th.
Comment by Greta van Pezterezen on 7/12 @ 10:29 am #
In red lipstick: “Monkey loveses the spunky.”
Comment by Rick Ballard on 7/12 @ 10:32 am #
“If the professor has any friends left, now might be the time to become involved.”
Malignant narcissism doesn’t allow for friendship. The prognosis for a successful therapeutic outcome is very, very low. Most therapists don’t want anything to do narcissists and neither do the narcissist’s families.
I’ve had to deal long term (2-3 year) with one and they will burn sympathy out of you faster than a perpetual drunk.
The DA in Lane county needs to giver thirty days in the cooler. Narcisissts do have the ability to control their behavior and jail time may well affect her future choices.
Comment by PattyAnn on 7/12 @ 10:35 am #
I have to agree with you on that point, Dan. I was watching a Fred! video yesterday and in the comments following it, I saw this little pearl:
SWMNBN and this LEATSLAN believe so whole-heartedly what they spew forth that no amount of truth or reason can combat it.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/12 @ 10:37 am #
it’s a long hard slog
Comment by Huey on 7/12 @ 10:51 am #
So long, and thanks for all the frisch.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/12 @ 11:31 am #
As Kelly Leak explained to Buttermaker and Amanda on the day he decided to join the Bears, “some asshole changed my mind.”
Those most recently attacked by Frisch as a result of their affiliation with, or sympathy for, me, have written and asked that I not let Frisch’s attempts to leverage collateral damage against me force me to padlock the store.
So I’ll take a few days, do a few things on the legal front, and we’ll go from there.
Comment by largenfirm on 7/12 @ 11:41 am #
Excellent. Please let me know if I can help with feet on the ground in Oregon.
Kirk Hays, aka Largenfirm
Comment by PattyAnn on 7/12 @ 11:42 am #
“some asshole changed my mind.â€Â
Thanks, Dan!
Comment by SarahW on 7/12 @ 11:48 am #
Greta = me
Comment by Dan Collins on 7/12 @ 11:56 am #
Gosh. That’s the nicest thing anyone’s ever said about me. *sniff*
Comment by Ugh on 7/12 @ 12:01 pm #
debbie posted more crap @ 10:24am. Just the typical “count” crap.
It will be sheer joy to finally see her nailed in *criminal* proceedings.
Comment by SarahW on 7/12 @ 12:01 pm #
Cheezit crackers, my long post dissapeared after the blogbot told me I’d already posted it. What gives? Now I outed greta for nothing. :) Plus, I forgot what all I said. Oh well, in pale imitation:
I don’t think anything short of removal from devices she can use to harass people will stop her. She’s already regularly and repeatedly violating a court order.
The sad reality is, until she moves to commit a violent act or succeeds in comitting a serious crime against person or property, she is subject only to catch and release incarceration, if that. And she will not find this persuasive. I suppose it doesn’t help that she is able to act with relative impunity at present, and that this has served to embolden her.
If she lands in jail, even for a month or two, it’s not likely to have a lasting effect. A sword of Damocles in some form of probation might be obtainable but I actually don’t think she can stick to it even when it is in her own best interest, unless the means to harass others is physically taken from her.
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