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Trump “I will be tough …” [Darleen Click]

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107 Replies to “Trump “I will be tough …” [Darleen Click]”

  1. happyfeet says:

    he’s gonna be so much better than the president we have now

    i’m really enthused about this

  2. leigh says:

    The man is exhausting.

  3. Darleen says:

    leigh

    He’s PT Barnum on crack.

  4. sdferr says:

    Oh, not so much a Barnum, since Barnum at least was reputed to be a source of entertainment. This pathetic schlub can’t even get past dull and boring: ain’t a damn thing entertaining about him, save to those who enjoy staring at a steaming pile of shit.

  5. Ernst Schreiber says:

    It would seem then that a majority of Americans enjoy staring at steaming piles of shit.

    I include Bernie Sanders in my remarks.

    And so far Trump has shown an exceptional ability for giving the people what they want.

    So, shall we say Barnum on steroids?

  6. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And Trump’s afraid of Megyn Kelly/Trump’s afraid to debate is too facile. A strategic calculation has been made that he has more to lose by showing up than he has by not showing up. Likely, he’s right.

    When the inevitable first question from Megyn Kelly tonight is “what do you think about Trump not being here?,” or some variation thereof, the winner of the debate will be the first candidate smart enough to through any discussion of Donald Trump back in her face as waste of the candidates’ time, the viewers’ time, and the voters’ time.

    Preferably followed with an affirmation of Trump’s assessment of her bimbo character.

  7. sdferr says:

    Consider the difference: Barnum traipsed in an enormous elephant name of Jumbo. Trump traipses in a pseudo-elephant name of Huckabee. American’s standards in entertainment must have changed somewhere along the way.

  8. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Trump’s a different kind of populist than Huckabee. He has broader and deeper appeal.

    If the other candidates don’t start taking that seriously and figure out a way to get around his right flank, he’ll be the nominee.

  9. sdferr says:

    For purposes of this narrower question of entertainment Ernst, and not addressing that other question of Trump’s peculiar political populism, I think you mistake me. I don’t intend there any equation of Trump to Huckabee, but suggest that Trump welcomes into his menagerie this distinctly flatulent creature Huckabee. For I hear that Huckabee goes as guest to Trump’s little show. That’s the sum of that.

    Whether Americans intend to make themselves chumps and suckers once again? They’ll have what they want. And deserve it.

  10. leigh says:

    I believe Kevin D. Williamson was correct when he said that Donald Trump is a candidate for a populace that doesn’t read.

  11. Ernst Schreiber says:

    He’s not wrong.

  12. happyfeet says:

    he’s gonna make america great again

    and not a moment too soon

  13. leigh says:

    I didn’t think so either, Ernst. I’ve found his supports are impervious to logic, as well. “Because shut up!”

  14. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Ah, but that doesn’t mean I think Williamson is right either I’ll simply note that the last candidate who was tailor-made for a populace that would rather watch TV and play video games than read and contemplate was himself elected President.

    Twice.

  15. newrouter says:

    Trump | Afterburner with Bill Whittle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBG6Xds7ifA

  16. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Executive summary for those of us too poor to afford broad band internet and a new computer busy & important for YouTube?

  17. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I hear that Huckabee goes as guest to Trump’s little show.

    I just heard Santorum has decided to ride in the clown car as well. That’s really too bad.

  18. newrouter says:

    trump interviewing for a job get some conservative policies from him before giving said job. also the real enemy is the proggtards/demonrats not trump.

  19. dicentra says:

    Trump is not afraid of Megyn Kelly.

    Trump is exploiting this opportunity to humiliate Fox News, pour encourager les autres.

  20. McGehee says:

    Dicentra is right. Everyone else in the media is playing along with his distractions and evasions lest they, too, get Megyn’ed.

  21. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Just goes to show you the biggest mistake Romney made was not lighting his hair on fire I guess.

  22. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Dicentra is right.

    I think there’s more to it than just showing Roger Ailes who’s on top.

    It makes Cruz the target for everyone else tonight instead of him (that assumes everybody is smart enough to not talk about Trump, no matter how much the moderators want them to).

    It offers a ready made excuse for losing Iowa (He pissed the yokels off instead of underperformed because he’s all hype and no ground-game).

    He doesn’t have to play the have you stopped beating your wife mistreating women yet? game that Kelly would insist he play. And given his ego, there’s no way he can play the graceful apology for being a boor card –which is the only card he has to play.

    It keeps the carnival atmosphere fresh so that the carnival barkers keep barking for him.

    trump interviewing for a job get some conservative policies from him before giving said job

    Sounds like good advice.

  23. leigh says:

    It saves him from having to actually flesh out policy now that we’re past the meet-and-greet portion of the primaries.

  24. LBascom says:

    I can’t figure out why we need another Megyn Kelly debate in the first place. If five debates weren’t enough, which is highly debatable IMHO, why not have someone else do it, like Hillsdale College for example, or some veterans organization? Giving her another go was destined to be the Megyn and Donald show. It isn’t healthy for the process.

    Oh, wait, I can’t read. What an I doing?

  25. LBascom says:

    This debate, like the others, aren’t designed to flesh out policy, they’re designed to tear the flesh off each other.

  26. leigh says:

    This debate is good. We’re actually getting to learn something.

  27. newrouter says:

    on the radio, boring “debate”

  28. leigh says:

    I’m watching on the teevee.

  29. LBascom says:

    I’m not liking how they ask one guy one question and the next a different question. There’s no contrast. I would have liked to hear other candidate’s answer to the Muslim chick for example. I don’t think Cruz got one foreign policy question, Carson got three.

    I will say though, the moderators are on much better behavior. It’s almost like the have been chastised…

  30. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Oh, wait, I can’t read. What an I doing?

    Boring us with your “I’m just a cave man. Your world frightens and confuses me” schtick.

  31. Curmudgeon says:

    Crappy debate. Moderators decided to gang up on Ted Cruz. And pitch Rubio softballs.

    Wow, Megyn is backing up Cruz on his Amnesty position—after the debate is over.

    She didn’t act that way during the debate, though. Just the opposite.

  32. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Moderators decided to gang up on Ted Cruz.

    Well, they couldn’t gang up on Trump, so who else was there?

  33. LBascom says:

    That was sarcasm.

    Have you taken to using the royal “us” for “me”, or is that some junior high click thang?

    Never mind, either way is so sad I can’t stand it.

  34. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m sure I’m not the only one getting tired of the poor put upon Trump supporter just asking questions thing.

  35. happyfeet says:

    It’s almost like they have been chastised…

    we’ll see when the ratings come out

    i went to bed early too many poopers on the stage still

    when jebbio goes away is how you’ll know things are starting to get serious

  36. McGehee says:

    I’m not liking how they ask one guy one question and the next a different question.

    One of a great many reasons I haven’t watched a debate since, probably 2000. Can’t say I’ve ever watched a primary-season debate, which I think wasn’t even a thing in 2000.

    To be fair though, the number of participants in a primary-season debate would make it really sucky television if everyone was answering the same question for thirty minutes at a time.

    Which means either there shouldn’t be primary-season debates, or they should be hosted on a C-SPAN channel or something. Maybe local-access in the state where the upcoming delegate-selection event will take place. Then outfits that purport to be about reporting news could do what they claim to be for doing, based on the video and transcripts instead of on live national ratings-driven TV.

  37. McGehee says:

    What bothers me is the recurring sense that someone doesn’t understand something that’s easy for everyone else to understand, therefore everyone else is wrong.

  38. sdferr says:

    What are the various particular antecedents of “someone”, “something”, and even the “everyone” contextually Mr. McG? The idea of a recurring sense seems to fit well with the repetition of these silly “debate” fora, but it’s the persons or entities I’m not clear about, to the extent even that I’m uncertain whether you’re talking about the debates per se.

  39. sdferr says:

    A transcript of last night’s proceedings.

  40. LBascom says:

    “To be fair though, the number of participants in a primary-season debate would make it really sucky television if everyone was answering the same question for thirty minutes at a time.”

    If memory serves, they used to have more focused debates, like one debate night would be mostly about the economy, the next mostly foreign affairs, like that. Also they would ask someone a question, and the other candidates could indicate they wanted to use some of their allotted time to answer the same question by lighting an indicator on their podium. That way the candidates themselves have more latitude to decide what they want to talk about and where THEY want to go after someone, instead of the moderators controlling everything.

    I’m not sure the way they do it now is even a debate, even if that’s what they call it. It’s more like a job interview where the moderators are hiring and one of the applicants is the CEO’s brother in law.

  41. tkdkerry says:

    Jeebus, I am ever so sick of the “Trump’s a coward ” meme. Hasn’t anyone paid attention to the man? This is calculated. Maybe he’ll benefit, maybe he won’t, but it isn’t out of fear.

  42. palaeomerus says:

    Has it not occurred to you that the “Trump’s a coward ” meme is equally calculated? And fun?

  43. LBascom says:

    Yeah, Trump is afraid of Kelly, so he took on Ailes and the whole Fox news network.

    Coward.

  44. palaeomerus says:

    He didn’t take them on. He went over the CNN for a “thing”.

  45. Curmudgeon says:

    Donald Trump is shocking, vulger…and spot on. Tucker Carlson is onto something.

    Again, he’s not my first choice; Ted Cruz is.

    But to claim he’s an Establican in populist clothing leaves out one simple fact. He can’t be controlled.

  46. bgbear says:

    I agree the Megyn thing is just pretext.

    I worry about the Republicans messing it all up until I remember the Hillary/Bernie show on the other side.

  47. palaeomerus says:

    “He can’t be controlled.”

    If he’s against your political interests, while pretending he’s not, and can’t be controlled is that really a virtue?

  48. Curmudgeon says:

    “If he’s against your political interests…”

    IS he really?

    To quote again from Tucker Carlson’s article:

    “A temporary ban on Muslim immigration? That sounds a little extreme (meaning nobody else has said it recently in public). But is it? Millions of Muslims have moved to Western Europe over the past 50 years, and a sizable number of them still haven’t assimilated. Instead, they remain hostile and sometimes dangerous to the cultures that welcomed them. By any measure, that experiment has failed. What’s our strategy for not repeating it here, especially after San Bernardino—attacks that seemed to come out of nowhere? Invoke American exceptionalism and hope for the best? Before Trump, that was the plan.

    Republican primary voters should be forgiven for wondering who exactly is on the reckless side of this debate. At the very least, Trump seems like he wants to protect the country.”

    And Carlson goes on:

    “All of which explains why almost nobody in Washington caught the significance of Trump’s finest moment in the first debate. One of the moderators asked, in effect: if you’re so opposed to Hillary Clinton, why did she come to your last wedding? It seemed like a revealing, even devastating question.

    Trump’s response, delivered without pause or embarrassment: Because I paid her to be there. As if she was the wedding singer, or in charge of the catering.

    Even then, I’ll confess, I didn’t get it. (Why would you pay someone to come to your wedding?) But the audience did. Trump is the ideal candidate to fight Washington corruption not simply because he opposes it, but because he has personally participated in it. He’s not just a reformer; like most effective populists, he’s a whistleblower, a traitor to his class…..”

    “Anyone can peer through the window in envy. It takes a real man to throw furniture through it from the inside.”

    Again, the disclaimer that I prefer Ted applies.

    But if you don’t understand how much Trump is a smack at the GOPee consultant class, then you aren’t getting it.

    Sure, The Donald is out for The Donald.

    But The Donald sure as hell isn’t the Consultant Class.

  49. newrouter says:

    dr. trump has the elixir you need to cure your failshitamerica problems!

  50. happyfeet says:

    maybe not cure but alleviate for sure

    he’s put a lot of time into this

  51. newrouter says:

    i want a trump tie to go with my sweater vest

  52. palaeomerus says:

    “IS he really?”

    Given most of his positions before he was triangulating his way into this run? Yes. Really. And obviously so.

    https://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2016/01/22/trumpians-get-had/

  53. LBascom says:

    Trumpians (along with every other patriotic American) have been getting had every election since H Bush kicked off the new world order (his words).

    I predict when the lower tier candidates start dropping out, their supporters will go to Rubio not Cruz, and Trump will win because of immigration. And nationalism. Trump will be the next president.

    But you Cruzers can take heart, for the rest of your lives, at every setback for America, you will be able to say “I told you so”, and blame the non-existence of a conservative utopia on Trumpians. Even if said setbacks are helped by “true” conservatives refusing to cooperate with the man out of spite for him and the people that voted for him, you will hold the moral high ground. Be strong, be pure, virtue is it’s own reward!

  54. sdferr says:

    It isn’t the case that once a statist, always a statist. On the other hand, anyone genuinely persuaded that statism isn’t right, or good, or true about human governance in liberty would surely be capable of expressing the grounds of his own persuasion; showing some sign that statism as such doesn’t continue to reach into his every position, his every reaction to a problem posed. One who cannot express the breadth and depth of his own profound change of mind regarding these principle distinctions concerning his own and others’ liberty must remain suspect as a charlatan, a fraud, a con-artist, etc; just a man willing to dissemble, to utter lip service to the desires of others. One who avows he “loves the Constitution” should show some sign of that, some measure of understanding of it, some evidence of care for it. Lacking any such evidence, understanding, or care warrants a deep skepticism of his pretended claims. And a label: bullshitter.

  55. palaeomerus says:

    I knew Trump was not trustworthy or serious when he lied so sloppily, idiotically, and cynically about Cruz assuming his lackey’s would somehow cuck-call it into quasi-reality.

    At that point I knew Trump was not even paying attention to who was GOPe or interested in crafting an effective opposition party out of the GOP and its recently orphaned outsiders. He is a con-man trading on desperation. I was sympathetic that he might have had an epiphany or was at least willing to play an honorable political mercenary until he used stupid dirty conspiracy theory bullshit to attempt to eliminate a rival who was getting to close for comfort before a single vote had been cast in a single primary.

  56. palaeomerus says:

    “lackey’s ” should have been lackeys

    to close should have been too close.

  57. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Trump is the best failmerica could do this time round

    fortunately he’s going to make America great again

    this should be a positive

  58. newrouter says:

    this should be a positiveyyyuge

  59. happyfeet says:

    oh please like the romney mccain cruz whoresquad had better ideas?

    lol!

    even limbaugh’s like fuck this shit

    Team MAGA’s the new hotness

    learn it know it live it, proteins

  60. palaeomerus says:

    “the romney mccain cruz whoresquad”

    And bullshit again is what keeps Trump in the air.

  61. palaeomerus says:

    Often it’s transparently stupid bullshit. It’s not even the good stuff.

  62. happyfeet says:

    you’re jaded is what you are

  63. palaeomerus says:

    And you are a poop gobbler.

  64. happyfeet says:

    you’re jaded AND surly

  65. palaeomerus says:

    Oh so cheerful feces consumption noted!

  66. newrouter says:

    trumpeters are not jaded, they’re gold plated!

  67. McGehee says:

    Pyrite-plated, if you ask me.

  68. Curmudgeon says:

    oh please like the romney mccain cruz whoresquad had better ideas?

    Which of these three is NOT like the others? To lump in Ted with the other two is appallingly dishonest.

    That said, while I am disgusted with The Donald for his attacks on Cruz, I do know this: (1) The Donald is most decidedly NOT the GOPee “Consultant” Class, and (2) If Rubio overtakes Ted in the polls, those attacks will shift onto The Rube. I rest my case.

    If The Donald and Ted finish #1 and #2 in IA, NH, SC, NV….what a nice slap in the faces of the GOPee consultant class that will be!

  69. Curmudgeon says:

    I predict when the lower tier candidates start dropping out, their supporters will go to Rubio not Cruz,

    Really? I fully expect the supporters of Ben Carson, Rick Santorum, and Mike Huckabee to go with Cruz, or Trump, over Rubio.

    The Supporters of Christie the RINO, Jeb Arbusto, iCarly, and Kaysuck, on the other hand, will go to Rubio.

  70. LBascom says:

    You could be right, especially about the second group, where you agree with me! =)

    I’m not sure about the first group though, Carson people will probably go Cruz or Trump, the other two I’m not so sure. I can’t figure why Santorum and Huckabee supporters exist this election at all, much less where they will go.

  71. newrouter says:

    go jeb! beat kasich

  72. newrouter says:

    @ 2800 votes

    John Kasich
    0.8%

    Jeb Bush
    1.7%

    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/

  73. LBascom says:

    Congratulations Senator Cruz!

  74. Curmudgeon says:

    I am pleased. Cruz #1 and The Donald #2 is a hearty F*** You to the Establishment.

  75. guinspen says:

    **** In an interview this morning [January 31, 2016] on This Week, Donald Trump cited his desire to “help people” as the reason he favors government-funded universal health coverage. Unlike Ted Cruz, Trump said, “I have a heart.”

    “If somebody has no money and they’re lying in the middle of the street and they’re dying, I’m going to take care of that person,” Trump said.

    Host George Stephanopoulos asked Trump “how do you do it?” And Trump explained his plan thusly:

    We’re going to work with our hospitals. We’re going to work with our doctors. We’ve got to do something. You can’t have a — a small percentage of our economy, because they’re down and out, have absolutely no protection so they end up dying from, you know, what you could have a simple procedure or even a pill. You can’t do that.

    We’ll work something out. That doesn’t mean single payer. And I mean, maybe he’s got no heart. And if this means I lose an election, that’s fine, because, frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country. We can’t let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else.****

    Middle of the street, sidewalks.

    Tomato, tomato.

    Indeed.

  76. And Gnaeus Pompous Pompeius Trump Magnus will cleanse the streets!

  77. McGehee says:

    It would be interesting to see where Huckabee’s supporters go now that he’s dropping out, but my guess is that with Santorum still in that’s where they may go.

    Some Carson supporters may blame Cruz supporters for the false rumor that the Doc told his supporters to support Cruz (my reaction when I saw that was … skeptical).

  78. McGehee says:

    It’s important to bear in mind that there’s a psychology at work in people who support candidates trailing in the polls at this point in the game (I know because I’ve been one of them more often than otherwise):

    Before Iowa, they were waiting to see what would happen when voting actually starts.

    Now, after Iowa, they’re going to wait to see how it goes in New Hampshire. Then South Carolina.

    I think after South Carolina is when these supporters will start to consider supporting one of the remaining strong candidates. And they will make their choices individually, because that’s how they chose their initial favorites.

  79. I would agree, McGehee, but I do think this time Nevada may be added to that mix.

  80. McGehee says:

    For the Democrats maybe.

  81. McGehee says:

    I always seem to be the least pessimistic guy here, despite my hard-earned cynicism. Or could it be because of it? Because I’ve had my cynicism for over 30 years?

    You Johnny-come-latelys still have a lot to learn.

  82. LBascom says:

    Here is where Trump is coming from on healthcare, because I remember arguing his position months ago; he wants an employer based insurance system similar to what we had before, but that left many people out. And those people, because it’s illegal (and immoral and not wise) for hospitals to deny medical care, those uninsured people were using the emergency room for their primary care, which not only put a huge strain on emergency rooms, but is grossly inefficient and ends up being paid by the taxpayer anyway.

    Obamacare was created with that problem as the excuse, but as we know it is even more grossly inefficient, as government controlled systems are want to be, more expensive, and can only lead to single payer, as it was designed to do.

    Trump wants to repeal Obamacare and go back to an employer based insurance system, but have a government program (admittedly vague at this point) to take care of those not insured in a more efficient way than relying on emergency care. I think that a sound position, especially going forward from where we are.

  83. From the Wikipedia Pompey page:

    …In Appian’s account of the civil war, Caesar has Pompey’s severed head interred in Alexandria, in ground reserved for a new temple to the goddess Nemesis, whose divine functions included the punishment of hubris.[55] For Pliny, the humiliation of Pompey’s end is anticipated by the vaunting pride of his oversized portrait-head, studded entirely with pearls, and carried in procession during his greatest Triumph….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#Civil_war_and_assassination

  84. Danger says:

    “Because I’ve had my cynicism for over 30 years?”

    Your consistency allows the rest of us to rest peacefully at night; thereby, making us more optimistic by comparison.

    That’s my nickel’s worth of Lucy Van Peltian analysis ;)

  85. Danger says:

    “Some Carson supporters may blame Cruz supporters for the false rumor that the Doc told his supporters to support Cruz (my reaction when I saw that was … skeptical).”

    Someone should remind them that taking time off from campaigning to sell books just might create (or reinforce) doubts about one’s commitment.

  86. McGehee says:

    I admit Carson’s playing victim diminished him in my estimation. Now, even if he has accepted Cruz’s apology and explanation, it’s given Trump another line of attack against Cruz.

    Of course, given the outcome of Trump’s previous attacks on Cruz I may have to reserve judgment…

  87. sdferr says:

    another line of attack against Cruz

    oh heck, McG, I think I must have misunderstood Trump’s twitter outbursts this morning: I mistakenly thought Trump, in an act of ultimate defiance of PC speech was ironically couching his hatred of PC in diverting figures of speech (the apparent direct attacks against Cruz) which conceal the message: I, Donald Trump, declare myself a moral cretin, America! Take that, PC!

  88. guinspen says:

    Your link sends me to my youtube home page, LB.

    Cleaned up, it leads to We Can Work It Out.

    Potato, Bug.

  89. McGehee says:

    I’ve said Trump is smart. I’ve never said he was self-aware.

  90. sdferr says:

    It’s possible Mr. Trump isn’t self-aware but on reflection given his notorious self-regard that would be at least a little strange, phenomenologically speaking. It may remain to see whether Mr. Trump’s evangelical supporters who went to Iowa to campaign show that they in turn are aware of that ninth of the Mosaic commandments, I guess.

  91. guinspen says:

    The flip side of said double A-side 45 was Day Tripper.

    For those of you tallying.

  92. LBascom says:

    Thanks guins. I thought I checked that link and it worked, but sometimes these intertubes do things that baffle me.

    McGhee, I don’t get it, Cruz puts out a story that Carson dropped out, very possibly hurting his vote count, and you look down on Carson for complaining?

    Seems Cruz supporters have nothing on Trump supporters when it comes to loyalty…

  93. sdferr says:

    The problem with the link I think is only the “m.” portion, indicating mobile, which evidently doesn’t or won’t work from the ordinary website.

  94. LBascom says:

    I heard Levin yesterday was also very excited about the first Hispanic Iowa caucus winner. If that wasn’t so funny (let us all remember, “Hispanic” is a made up category the Nixon administration came up with) I would…wait, maybe it’s screaming funny.

    Anyway, I guess we’re all to make a thing out of multiculturalism now. It’s been around long enough to be conservative apparently.

  95. sdferr says:

    Got a link to Levin’s excitement about multiculturalism? It would be interesting to hear that. Did you hear it Lee?

  96. LBascom says:

    This is why Cruz will beat Rubio. Rubio is just a run of the mill Cuban-Hispanic-American, but Cruz is a Cuban-Hispanic-Canadian-American. The only thing I can say it’s a Damon shame he was born in Alberta instead of Quebec, ‘cuz then he’d be a Cuban-Hispanic-French-Canadian-American, which would have been cinq sex-ee!

  97. sdferr says:

    So I take it, that’s a no?

  98. LBascom says:

    It was in his first hour, going on about how it should be big news about the Hispanic what won and everyone should be talking about it and the major networks weren’t talking about it because they don’t want to tell what a great and wonderful thing the republicans did with all the Hispanicness.

    Multicultural was my word, in the second paragraph which was my takeaway. Because of the waddling and quaking…

  99. sdferr says:

    Multicultural was your lie, y’mean. Yeah, Levin upbraids the mainstream media with a double standard, but that gets morphed into his dependence on some phony historical achievement. Ok.

  100. LBascom says:

    Fuck you sufferer, I used no quotes, so stick your accusation straight up your ass.

  101. LBascom says:

    Sdferr, fuck autocorrect too…

  102. newrouter says:

    the sweater vest will be spending more time in the dresser

    CNN has learned @RickSantorum will exit race tonight. Plans endorsement.

    https://twitter.com/JohnKingCNN/status/694956445289340930

  103. leigh says:

    It was CNN that reported Carson was dropping out. Cruz’ team was not the source of that mistake and Cruz has apologized for not confirming it. The blame can truly be laid at the feet of Carson’s team for their less than clear messaging.

    Be that as it may, Carson overperformed in the actual balloting when compared to that day’s polling. This means that last minute caucus goers changed their minds from Trump, not Carson.

    Hope this helps.

  104. newrouter says:

    there be alotof whining go on and on. also kasich beat jeb! in nh!

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