what we’ve learned this week is that both the PETA fur-children freaks and team lifeydoodle have a penchant for using hyper-emotive propaganda to advance their respective agendas
but we already kinda knew that I think if we’re honest about it
>Oh, when you run about without precautions
And you’ll get disease and need abortions
Up till now, no vaccination
Can give you back your reputation, yeah
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body, we want your body)
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body)
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body, we want your body)
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body)
As usual, ‘feets, your disdain for lifeydoodles, coming as it does from the privileged perch of a living doodle, grates on those of us who hope you don’t represent the majority of humans, because if you do, we’ve certainly become a worthless species indeed, needing a massive reset hammer time Copybook
>The founder and CEO of StemExpress is Cate Dyer, the younger sister of Charlotte Ivancic, Boehner’s health policy director, as originally observed at the conservative site ForAmerica.
In response to Breitbart News’ request for comment, Emily Schillinger, Boehner’s press secretary, said, “Charlotte Ivancic is a dedicated public servant who enjoys the utmost respect among her peers and Members of Congress. She has the Speaker’s complete trust and confidence in both her work and her character.”<
Debating progressives like the yellow peril is a huge waste of time. They didn’t arrive at their positions through reason, so reason won’t move them off their positions.
Debating progressives like the yellow peril is a huge waste of time.
However, with The Yellow Peril, whether here or at Patterico, the only other place I have seen it infest, it doesn’t debate so much as fling crap in that idiotic baby talk in order to disrupt rational discussion.
Why anyone tolerates its puerile tantrums, other than to showcase new nadirs to which progressives sink, remains a mystery.
Rejoice, rejoice
In your indoor pill -numbed voice
We have a tiny life for you to live
And in the harness teams
You may help us touch our dreams
And we’ll take everything
You have to give
In the tiny life we made for you to live.
The words we’ll pack in
Until they
Distend your skin
And the words will come out
when you feel the goad
You’ll shriek like the damned
You will think in diagrams
With a food tube and
And a hole for your commode
We’ pack you away
In a grid where you will stay
And we’ll slither through your veins
And distract you from your pain
Got some shackles for your feet
And a nice cage in your brain
And rivets and wire
To keep your web from
Swaying.
When your small life is through
We can thus dispose of you
And order a replacement
Right away.
So you needn’t worry
You can neither wait nor hurry
The outcome will always be the same
You’re a part with a task
In an alcove with a mask
And we value you your function
Yes we do.
We have this tiny little life
Prepared for
You.
other things what you can harvest are include sweet corn and jalapeno peppers
i know cause of it’s the midwest and freaking everybody has a garden Mr. McGehee
but seriously i wonder what researchings are being done with the fetal tissues from the abortions
i heard that’s how you develop vaccines for one thing and me i am very pro-vaccine
but i wonder why else the scientists research the fetal tissue
we don’t wanna run off half-cocked like joni ernst without our bread bags on our feets!
we should hold hearings about this defunding before voting i think
hello welcome to our hearing we have a few questions we’d like to ask you I have my notebook open and a sharp pencil so if you see me writing I’m just taking notes
The term “valuable consideration” does not include reasonable payments associated with the transportation, implantation, processing, preservation, quality control, or storage of human fetal tissue.
so it’s not illegal and we don’t want to make it illegal do we?
if we do a LOT of research that helps a lot of people is going to not get done
you have to remember a lot of babies aborted in teh second trimester are being aborted cause of they have severe defects
we study these babies just like we autopsy adults when they die – we send aggressive tumors to oncology labs after people die of cancer so that the scientists can try and think of better treatments
fetal stem cells are also playing an important role in the study of many many other diseases and disorders – this is why the National Institutes of Health uses the majority of the tissues what are collected
also fetal tissue is crucial in making vaccines against diseases
maybe some of the research could just move overseas
but the best labs are still here in america
everyone needs to take a deep breath and wait for facts not silly youtubes i think
it’s titles, “Fetal tissue research declining, still important”
what this tells me is that fetal tissue is not being used in research as much as it used to be, but that it still plays an important role
for example the article says it’s not as important as it used to be with respect to the alzheimer’s, but…
…scientists also said that for some studies, fetal tissue remains essential, and that efforts to reduce an already-scarce supply could set back research on birth defects, spinal cord injuries, Parkinson’s disease, eye diseases, and vaccines and treatments for HIV/AIDS, to name a few.
“No question fetal tissue remains an important research tool,” said Sean Tipton of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine. Fetal cells have long been used in vaccine research, and are still used in toxicology studies.
so what i have learned is that this has been going on for a really long time
i have also learned that it’s no accident that fetal tissue research is on the decline cause of why? scientists try really hard (“very hard”) to find alternate ways to do their researchings
Insoo Hyun, a bioethicist at Case Western Reserve University, said the newer, lab-derived cells have not been perfected and researchers still need fetal tissue to ensure that the reprogrammed cells are of comparable quality.
“People are trying very hard to transition out of using stem cells from fetuses but to make that transition, it will take some time,” Hyun said.
They are haggling over price point, seeking to get a MARKET price
that’s just in the video which is a wee tiny part of the whole process
the PP people who are “haggling” are pretty forthright that they don’t know what the price should be and that it’s all gonna have to go to the board and to legal anyways
in these meetings what they’re trying to do is to get a framework agreement worked out to serve as a basis for further discussion
it’s normal old business development where you try to make sure you’re protected against loss – but the people in the video don’t get to sign off on the deal there’s a whole process where legal looks at it and you run it past your insurance guys and the rest of the non-profit board looks at it
(which is not recovery of cost, something never discussed on the videos)
a.) it’s not by any means been established that we’re talking about large sums of money
b.) to the extent we’re talking about specific sums of monies, these sums are introduced into the conversations by the creepy lifeydoodles who keep trying to offer more and more – it’s not a real life conversation it’s a sting operation duh – it doesn’t produce good data
c.) we don’t know what the costs are what would need to be recovered – remember the arrangements offered by the lifeydoodles are completely imaginary – we haven’t learned anything about what the economics are of collecting fetal tissue and preserving them and shipping them in a timely way and such – we DO know that the research people pay the middlemen a LOT more than PP is getting so if PP were really as greedy as people suggest they’d cut out the middlemen – duh hello america?
Plus they discuss at length ways to manipulate the fetus to maximize the harvesting of organs. Something specifically forbidden in federal law.
i’m curious about this too but two things:
a.) discussing is not illegal – the PP people say for sure that all they can do is discuss it with the surgeon they can’t make any promises (and they’re led into this conversation… it’s not like PP’s just jumping out there and saying ok here’s what we’re gonna commit to do) – absolutely no decisions are taken in these videos
b.) are they talking actually about changing the abortion process in a material way that will effect anything other than the disposition of the fetus? It’s really not at all clear from the video cause we don’t know what they actually end up deciding to do – maybe more videos will have more detail
Abortionists are dealing in ORGANS not “tissue.”
actually it’s both… in the reuters article we learn this:
“For us, to understand any of a number of disease states, we need organs,” he said.
“If you took away this area of research, you are taking away the hopes of a lot of people who have currently incurable diseases for which this very likely will get us there.”
part of what’s going on is that organs represent cell differentiation where instead of just having stem cells like with the embryonic stem cells you have stem cells what have developed into organ-specific stem cells
so i think the idea that they need organs is better phrased as they need cells from specific organs
you have to remember a lot of babies aborted in teh second trimester are being aborted cause of they have severe defects
we study these babies just like we autopsy adults when they die – we send aggressive tumors to oncology labs after people die of cancer so that the scientists can try and think of better treatments
That is NOT what planned parenthood is doing, and either you know it and are being disingenuous or you are as stupid as you portray yourself.
It turned out that our daughter had myriad problems, including spina bifida and a tethered spinal cord. We didn’t want to rush into such an important decision, but we did eventually decide we wanted to end the pregnancy. Then, we had to wait for an available appointment. We had an abortion at 22 weeks.
[…]
It was horrible for us to have to end a much-wanted pregnancy, but we made the best of it by donating the fetal tissue for research. We contacted our genetics counselor, who coordinated the donation with a spina bifida research project funded by the National Institutes of Health. We figured that donating the tissue could perhaps spare other families the painful situation we found ourselves in. It was clear to me and my husband that the question of what caused the spina bifida needed to be studied.
so that’s definitely part of the landscape of fetal tissue research
i don’t agree I think the vast majority of reasons people want to study fetal tissue are mostly very sound
the more frivolous commercial-type examples of research involving fetal tissues I’ve seen are usually examples where people aren’t looking to procure fetal tissue from a clinic –
they’re using an established cultured line of stem cells that’ve been around for a long time and have well understood properties
Not once on the video taking place during dissection was any mention of fetal defects. In fact, they were most pleased with finding intact, and marketable, kidneys and spines while “Hey, another boy!” done on a unborn child just shy of 2nd trimester.
And we know that 99% of 1st trimester abortions are NOT done for reasons of birth defects.
Not once on the video taking place during dissection was any mention of fetal defects.
hello? these conversations are being led by lifeydoodle propagandists
this videos do NOT comprise a documentary about fetal tissue procurement they’re sting videos
this is why Team R’s knee-jerk reaction is to go after PP’s fundings – NOT immediately ban all research
there’s going to be hearings so we learn a lot more about how fetal tissue is collected for research
i was kind of excited about cutting the PP funding btw
I definitely don’t think they’ve done themselves any favors by buying into the “war on women” rhetoric and they’ve definitely made themselves fair game
(i’m not as excited as i was cause it turns out they’re not saving any money just moving it around)
this suggests the incidence of second trimester abortion for purposes of fetal abnormality could be as low as 2% of second trimester abortions
so i take back about “a lot of babies aborted in the second trimester are being aborted cause of they have severe defects”
but instances of fetal abnormalities are still an example where this kind of research is not only manifestly justifiable but very much warranted cause of the good that might come of it
“hello? these conversations are being led by lifeydoodle propagandists”
Led? Lured maybe but the PP crone is chasing the lure all on her own. And she’s up in the structure and trusted so…and now we have another one in Colorado taking the bait. A lot of bait taking going on in the innocent research enterprise methinks.
Palaeo, you have to realize that lifeydoodle proppagandists’ lures are as irresistible to the virtuous-to-a-fault infanticidists as a laser beam is to a kitten. We don’t blame the kitten for chasing it, it’s the person holding the laser who’s to blame.
i dunno Mr. p I’m not convinced there was really all that much money on the table
i think what’s more likely is that PP figured that getting involved in fetal tissue research was a way of developing constituencies/allies among not just the broader medical and scientific community, but also among non-profits related to diseases that stand to benefit from the resulting research (Parkinson’s disease, eye diseases, and vaccines and treatments for HIV/AIDS, to name a few is what the reuters article says)
A former director of a planned parenthood clinic stated in and interview that her job was to sell abortions. That’s how they make their money. They are also making money off of selling baby parts. Whether or not it’s a small amount of money is not the issue.
See the table where 13% of second trimester abortions were done in “intended” or wanted pregnancies and in the text before the tables where they explain that this stat is for pregnancies where health of mother or unborn child was the factor.
RIF, griefer
and say “lifeydoodle” all you want, but the fact remains, in 300 hours of tapes, this is the way PP behaves.
…scientists also said that for some studies, fetal tissue remains essential, and that efforts to reduce an already-scarce supply could set back research…
This sentence gives lie to the claim ‘pro-choicers’ don’t actually promote abortion, and thus exposes the immoral monsters they are.
Happyfeet woulda made a good nazi. Notice the concern over efforts to “reduce the apply”. These types are psychos.
i need a shower too this new apartment doesn’t have central and it’s ungodly humid here cause of the stupid lake plus we had one of those rainstorm things today
“but instances of fetal abnormalities are still an example where this kind of research is not only manifestly justifiable but very much warranted cause of the good that might come of it”
I’d like to study aberrant synaptic response in yellow brains. Mind if I take some of yours? Of course you don’t, cause some good might come of it.
It turned out that our daughter had myriad problems, including spina bifida and a tethered spinal cord. We didn’t want to rush into such an important decision, but we did eventually decide we wanted to end the pregnancy. Then, we had to wait for an available appointment. We had an abortion at 22 weeks
It’s a damn shame that they did, damn shame. My wife’s cousin’s oldest child (sounds like a Spaceball’s Joke, I know, but I want to be precise about the relationship has spina bifida and he’s a great kid.
should have made the “tissue” black for the margret sanger vibe
The previous cartoon did make the pregnant lady black.
Unfortunately, we live in times where Ramirez has an easy job.
>The previous cartoon did make the pregnant lady black. <
true but margret sanger was hunting black babies and other "defectives"
>we live in times where Ramirez has an easy job.<
i think it would be a very difficult "job" to graphically show what the proggtarded are doing to the black family over the last 70 years in the us.
what we’ve learned this week is that both the PETA fur-children freaks and team lifeydoodle have a penchant for using hyper-emotive propaganda to advance their respective agendas
but we already kinda knew that I think if we’re honest about it
>what we’ve learned this week is<
"anger is an energy"
Public Image Ltd – Rise
for the geezer lion or the humans is the ?
PIL – Public Image
I should have thought “The Body” would be a better PIL song for this.
https://youtu.be/Nr94K5VX0Q4
YT seems to have removed the official video and the lyrics versions.
oh here
>Oh, when you run about without precautions
And you’ll get disease and need abortions
Up till now, no vaccination
Can give you back your reputation, yeah
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body, we want your body)
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body)
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body, we want your body)
We want, we want your body
(We want your body, we want your body)
<
http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-body-lyrics-public-image-limited.html
also
My Review in Taki’s Magazine of “Between the World and Me” by Ta-Nehisi Coates
As usual, ‘feets, your disdain for lifeydoodles, coming as it does from the privileged perch of a living doodle, grates on those of us who hope you don’t represent the majority of humans, because if you do, we’ve certainly become a worthless species indeed, needing a massive reset hammer time Copybook
-style.
black bodies news
Boehner’s Health Policy Director is Sister of StemExpress Founder
the corruption runs deep:
>The founder and CEO of StemExpress is Cate Dyer, the younger sister of Charlotte Ivancic, Boehner’s health policy director, as originally observed at the conservative site ForAmerica.
In response to Breitbart News’ request for comment, Emily Schillinger, Boehner’s press secretary, said, “Charlotte Ivancic is a dedicated public servant who enjoys the utmost respect among her peers and Members of Congress. She has the Speaker’s complete trust and confidence in both her work and her character.”<
The “prey” that got away.
We know you don’t care about the murdering of the unborn, yellow peril. How about not bothering to mention it again?
I’m trying to figure out how much a complete set of hamster “gestative tissue” goes for.
Not enough, apparently.
Wouldn’t you think that in Zimbabwe, naming a popular lion after Cecil Rhodes would be like flying a Confederate flag?
More like flying the Czar’s flag in front of Stalin’s window before the “sickness” (Beria-itis perhaps) took him.
I’d think Stalin was more offended by what he saw after he died.
“What gives you, a purely imaginary opiate of the masses, the right to sit in judgment over me!?”
ECHO!
echo
echo
echo
PICKLEPOOPERDOOPERDO!
Butt butt butt butt ass butt
[…] posted that and this one […]
Debating progressives like the yellow peril is a huge waste of time. They didn’t arrive at their positions through reason, so reason won’t move them off their positions.
Debating progressives like the yellow peril is a huge waste of time.
However, with The Yellow Peril, whether here or at Patterico, the only other place I have seen it infest, it doesn’t debate so much as fling crap in that idiotic baby talk in order to disrupt rational discussion.
Why anyone tolerates its puerile tantrums, other than to showcase new nadirs to which progressives sink, remains a mystery.
He’s another who will ask that indignant question when introduced to his Creator.
you’re starting to sound like grampa grumpypants Mr. NcGehee
you need you a week in Panama City
that gulf air will do you good
and the sunsets there are better than any therapy dog you ever likely to get your paws on in this most fallen of whirls
Mr. *McGehee* i mean
Greetings:
“The Lyin’ Hunters” ???
Hamsters need to keep their stupid opinions to themselves.
People have an emotional reaction to babies being dissected. Weird.
Bubbleheads Like White Elephants.
I heart littlesirechofoot.
Hello!
I was going to suggest one of Mr. Lydon’s Sex Pistols songs, “Bodies”.
People have an emotional reaction to babies being dissected.
Next week we’ll have an emotional reaction to babies born alive and intact, then placed in “the nursery,” which is actually a freezer.
At Stem Express or somewhere similar.
But we’re the wackos.
**** Mother was an incubator
Father was the contents
Of a test tube in the ice box
In the factory of birth
My name is 905
And I’ve just become alive
I’m the newest populator
Of the planet we call Earth
In suspended animation
My childhood passed me by
If I speak without emotion
Then you know the reason why
Knowledge of the universe
Was fed into my mind
As my adolescent body
Left its puberty behind
Everything I know is what I need to know
Everything I do’s been done before
Every sentence in my head
Someone else has said
At each end of my life is an open door
Automatically defrosted
When manhood came on time
I became a man
I left the “ice school” behind
Now I’m to begin
The life that I’m assigned
A life that’s been used before
A thousand times
I have a feeling deep inside
That something is missing
It’s a feeling in my soul
And I can’t help wishing
That one day I’ll discover
That we’re living a lie
And I’ll tell the whole world
The reasons why
But until then
All I know is what I need to know
Everything I do’s been done before
Every idea in my head
Someone else has said
At each end of my life is an open door ****
Rejoice, rejoice
In your indoor pill -numbed voice
We have a tiny life for you to live
And in the harness teams
You may help us touch our dreams
And we’ll take everything
You have to give
In the tiny life we made for you to live.
The words we’ll pack in
Until they
Distend your skin
And the words will come out
when you feel the goad
You’ll shriek like the damned
You will think in diagrams
With a food tube and
And a hole for your commode
We’ pack you away
In a grid where you will stay
And we’ll slither through your veins
And distract you from your pain
Got some shackles for your feet
And a nice cage in your brain
And rivets and wire
To keep your web from
Swaying.
When your small life is through
We can thus dispose of you
And order a replacement
Right away.
So you needn’t worry
You can neither wait nor hurry
The outcome will always be the same
You’re a part with a task
In an alcove with a mask
And we value you your function
Yes we do.
We have this tiny little life
Prepared for
You.
it’s never good to let fanatics drive the train
never ever
it just do not end in a pleasing denoument
*denouement* i mean
but you get the point
oh my goodness
let’s play what if
even if
Team R could defund PP
which it can’t
we’d then be left with a very good question
why can’t it defund xyz?
The stupid, it burns!
no it doesn’t it tingles
Those who have more of it think it feels good.
other things what you can harvest are include sweet corn and jalapeno peppers
i know cause of it’s the midwest and freaking everybody has a garden Mr. McGehee
but seriously i wonder what researchings are being done with the fetal tissues from the abortions
i heard that’s how you develop vaccines for one thing and me i am very pro-vaccine
but i wonder why else the scientists research the fetal tissue
we don’t wanna run off half-cocked like joni ernst without our bread bags on our feets!
we should hold hearings about this defunding before voting i think
hello welcome to our hearing we have a few questions we’d like to ask you I have my notebook open and a sharp pencil so if you see me writing I’m just taking notes
The stupid always miss the part about how IT’S ILLEGAL, IMMORAL AND WRONG TO DISMEMBER A HUMAN BEING FOR MONEY.
Doesn’t matter what wunnerful feelingses you can get from the researchiness, if it involves being a fucking latter-day Dr. Josef Mengele.
Which, by the way, I have the power to change a Mengele apologists’ comments so they’re signed “mengelefeet.”
no it’s not illegal Mr. NcGehee – not anything what’s been documented so far anyways
this is the law
here’s the key part
so it’s not illegal and we don’t want to make it illegal do we?
if we do a LOT of research that helps a lot of people is going to not get done
you have to remember a lot of babies aborted in teh second trimester are being aborted cause of they have severe defects
we study these babies just like we autopsy adults when they die – we send aggressive tumors to oncology labs after people die of cancer so that the scientists can try and think of better treatments
fetal stem cells are also playing an important role in the study of many many other diseases and disorders – this is why the National Institutes of Health uses the majority of the tissues what are collected
also fetal tissue is crucial in making vaccines against diseases
maybe some of the research could just move overseas
but the best labs are still here in america
everyone needs to take a deep breath and wait for facts not silly youtubes i think
no it’s not illegal Mr. *McGehee* i mean
oh and that should be *the* second trimester
here is an article from some chick at reuters
it’s titles, “Fetal tissue research declining, still important”
what this tells me is that fetal tissue is not being used in research as much as it used to be, but that it still plays an important role
for example the article says it’s not as important as it used to be with respect to the alzheimer’s, but…
so what i have learned is that this has been going on for a really long time
i have also learned that it’s no accident that fetal tissue research is on the decline cause of why? scientists try really hard (“very hard”) to find alternate ways to do their researchings
oh. that should say it’s “titled”
so it’s not illegal and we don’t want to make it illegal do we?
They are haggling over price point, seeking to get a MARKET price (which is not recovery of cost, something never discussed on the videos)
Plus they discuss at length ways to manipulate the fetus to maximize the harvesting of organs. Something specifically forbidden in federal law.
So let’s release ALL the videos and stop playing the euphemism game. Abortionists are dealing in ORGANS not “tissue.”
They are haggling over price point, seeking to get a MARKET price
that’s just in the video which is a wee tiny part of the whole process
the PP people who are “haggling” are pretty forthright that they don’t know what the price should be and that it’s all gonna have to go to the board and to legal anyways
in these meetings what they’re trying to do is to get a framework agreement worked out to serve as a basis for further discussion
it’s normal old business development where you try to make sure you’re protected against loss – but the people in the video don’t get to sign off on the deal there’s a whole process where legal looks at it and you run it past your insurance guys and the rest of the non-profit board looks at it
(which is not recovery of cost, something never discussed on the videos)
a.) it’s not by any means been established that we’re talking about large sums of money
b.) to the extent we’re talking about specific sums of monies, these sums are introduced into the conversations by the creepy lifeydoodles who keep trying to offer more and more – it’s not a real life conversation it’s a sting operation duh – it doesn’t produce good data
c.) we don’t know what the costs are what would need to be recovered – remember the arrangements offered by the lifeydoodles are completely imaginary – we haven’t learned anything about what the economics are of collecting fetal tissue and preserving them and shipping them in a timely way and such – we DO know that the research people pay the middlemen a LOT more than PP is getting so if PP were really as greedy as people suggest they’d cut out the middlemen – duh hello america?
Plus they discuss at length ways to manipulate the fetus to maximize the harvesting of organs. Something specifically forbidden in federal law.
i’m curious about this too but two things:
a.) discussing is not illegal – the PP people say for sure that all they can do is discuss it with the surgeon they can’t make any promises (and they’re led into this conversation… it’s not like PP’s just jumping out there and saying ok here’s what we’re gonna commit to do) – absolutely no decisions are taken in these videos
b.) are they talking actually about changing the abortion process in a material way that will effect anything other than the disposition of the fetus? It’s really not at all clear from the video cause we don’t know what they actually end up deciding to do – maybe more videos will have more detail
Abortionists are dealing in ORGANS not “tissue.”
actually it’s both… in the reuters article we learn this:
part of what’s going on is that organs represent cell differentiation where instead of just having stem cells like with the embryonic stem cells you have stem cells what have developed into organ-specific stem cells
so i think the idea that they need organs is better phrased as they need cells from specific organs
That is NOT what planned parenthood is doing, and either you know it and are being disingenuous or you are as stupid as you portray yourself.
Mr. cranky please to read this
It turned out that our daughter had myriad problems, including spina bifida and a tethered spinal cord. We didn’t want to rush into such an important decision, but we did eventually decide we wanted to end the pregnancy. Then, we had to wait for an available appointment. We had an abortion at 22 weeks.
[…]
It was horrible for us to have to end a much-wanted pregnancy, but we made the best of it by donating the fetal tissue for research. We contacted our genetics counselor, who coordinated the donation with a spina bifida research project funded by the National Institutes of Health. We figured that donating the tissue could perhaps spare other families the painful situation we found ourselves in. It was clear to me and my husband that the question of what caused the spina bifida needed to be studied.
so that’s definitely part of the landscape of fetal tissue research
99.99% of “fetal tissue” trafficking gives the other 1/100 of 1% a bad name.
Mengelefeet, you’re giving us reason to guess who your employer is.
i don’t agree I think the vast majority of reasons people want to study fetal tissue are mostly very sound
the more frivolous commercial-type examples of research involving fetal tissues I’ve seen are usually examples where people aren’t looking to procure fetal tissue from a clinic –
they’re using an established cultured line of stem cells that’ve been around for a long time and have well understood properties
Mengelefeet, you’re giving us reason to guess who your employer is.
classy McGehee really classy
griefer
You are engaged in willful ignorance.
Not once on the video taking place during dissection was any mention of fetal defects. In fact, they were most pleased with finding intact, and marketable, kidneys and spines while “Hey, another boy!” done on a unborn child just shy of 2nd trimester.
And we know that 99% of 1st trimester abortions are NOT done for reasons of birth defects.
And 87% of 2nd trimester abortions are NOT done for reasons of birth defects.
You are engaged in willful ignorance.
i am not i read a lot of stuff today
Not once on the video taking place during dissection was any mention of fetal defects.
hello? these conversations are being led by lifeydoodle propagandists
this videos do NOT comprise a documentary about fetal tissue procurement they’re sting videos
this is why Team R’s knee-jerk reaction is to go after PP’s fundings – NOT immediately ban all research
there’s going to be hearings so we learn a lot more about how fetal tissue is collected for research
i was kind of excited about cutting the PP funding btw
I definitely don’t think they’ve done themselves any favors by buying into the “war on women” rhetoric and they’ve definitely made themselves fair game
(i’m not as excited as i was cause it turns out they’re not saving any money just moving it around)
i can’t find that 87% stat in the linked doc btw
If you are bitching this much, yellow peril, it means we are over the target.
Playing the, “These aren’t the murdered babies you are looking for,” game will not work.
this suggests the incidence of second trimester abortion for purposes of fetal abnormality could be as low as 2% of second trimester abortions
so i take back about “a lot of babies aborted in the second trimester are being aborted cause of they have severe defects”
but instances of fetal abnormalities are still an example where this kind of research is not only manifestly justifiable but very much warranted cause of the good that might come of it
“hello? these conversations are being led by lifeydoodle propagandists”
Led? Lured maybe but the PP crone is chasing the lure all on her own. And she’s up in the structure and trusted so…and now we have another one in Colorado taking the bait. A lot of bait taking going on in the innocent research enterprise methinks.
Ne pas condamner le héraut. L’institution cherche occasion pour embrasse la corruption.
Palaeo, you have to realize that lifeydoodle proppagandists’ lures are as irresistible to the virtuous-to-a-fault infanticidists as a laser beam is to a kitten. We don’t blame the kitten for chasing it, it’s the person holding the laser who’s to blame.
i dunno Mr. p I’m not convinced there was really all that much money on the table
i think what’s more likely is that PP figured that getting involved in fetal tissue research was a way of developing constituencies/allies among not just the broader medical and scientific community, but also among non-profits related to diseases that stand to benefit from the resulting research (Parkinson’s disease, eye diseases, and vaccines and treatments for HIV/AIDS, to name a few is what the reuters article says)
A former director of a planned parenthood clinic stated in and interview that her job was to sell abortions. That’s how they make their money. They are also making money off of selling baby parts. Whether or not it’s a small amount of money is not the issue.
Principals don’t have a price tag.
See the table where 13% of second trimester abortions were done in “intended” or wanted pregnancies and in the text before the tables where they explain that this stat is for pregnancies where health of mother or unborn child was the factor.
RIF, griefer
and say “lifeydoodle” all you want, but the fact remains, in 300 hours of tapes, this is the way PP behaves.
It’s just Gosnell with a happy face.
This sentence gives lie to the claim ‘pro-choicers’ don’t actually promote abortion, and thus exposes the immoral monsters they are.
Happyfeet woulda made a good nazi. Notice the concern over efforts to “reduce the apply”. These types are psychos.
When SMoD arrives with cleansing destruction, we will only have ourselves to blame.
see my comment at 3:56 pm
btw health of mother isn’t as relevant in this discussion as fetal abnormality
this is the way PP behaves
yes yes yes i’m just not as fainting couchy about it as you guys are
it’s a fallen whirl Darleen
Supply, not apply.
But you knew that…
yes, supply
as in supply and demand hello
of all the markets you do NOT want to drive underground this one has to be near the top of the list if you ask me which nobody does
God God Happyfeet, you’ve not only endorsed abortion, you’ve convinced yourself a steady , reliable supply of abortions is noble!
I need a shower…
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i need a shower too this new apartment doesn’t have central and it’s ungodly humid here cause of the stupid lake plus we had one of those rainstorm things today
haven’t gotten used to that yet
Hello!
“It’s alarming how charming
It is to be a-farming.”
“hello? these conversations are being led by lifeydoodle propagandists”
and this one is being led by a Nazi . So, there you go.
“but instances of fetal abnormalities are still an example where this kind of research is not only manifestly justifiable but very much warranted cause of the good that might come of it”
I’d like to study aberrant synaptic response in yellow brains. Mind if I take some of yours? Of course you don’t, cause some good might come of it.
“treatments for HIV/AIDS”
Stop butt surfing.
It’s a damn shame that they did, damn shame. My wife’s cousin’s oldest child (sounds like a Spaceball’s Joke, I know, but I want to be precise about the relationship has spina bifida and he’s a great kid.