May 4, 2014

Democrats make it clear: Obama’s political reputation more important than American lives [Darleen Click]

Democrat Congresscritter Rep. Adam Schiff of California, member of ironically-named House Intelligence committee calls for Democrat boycott of investigation of Benghazi and the White House coverup.

A Democratic member of the House intelligence committee called Sunday for his party to boycott the newly announced committee tasked with probing the Benghazi attacks, dismissing new evidence that Republicans have called a “smoking gun” showing the White House politicized the tragedy.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., told “Fox News Sunday” that Democrats should not give the select committee more “credibility” by joining.

“I think it’s a colossal waste of time,” he said. “I don’t think it makes sense, really, for Democrats to participate.”

Of course it makes no sense … if “sense” is defined as making sure Democrats make it through the mid-terms by any means necessary.

There still is some sense of the Constitution and its principles flickering amongst the hoi polloi that needs stomping out. Can’t let one dead ambassador and three dead Seals stand in the way of fundamental change now, can we?


Posted by Darleen @ 10:26am

Comments (45)

  1. What can you expect of a congressman whose official portrait looks like a passport photo?

    Or maybe they just decided to use the face-front mug shot instead of the turn-to-the-side.

  2. The baldness of the Democrat move is almost outrageous enough to inspire one to do a treason to the poet Robert Frost, to re-cast his poem “Choose Something Like a Star” into a debased “Choose Something Like a Lie”:

    O Lie (the foulest one in sight)
    We grant our lowliness the right
    To some obscurity of word —
    It will not do to say of night,
    Since dark is what brings out our might.
    Some mystery becomes a turd.

    . . . etc.

    . . . because only almost.

  3. It really was all about Obama’s and Hillary’s political reputations. Per Brett Baier’s Benghazi special last night, Hillary put out an ass-covering memo at around 10:00pm the night of 9/11/12 – while Woods & Doherty (and others) were still fighting for their lives, while Stevens’ whereabouts were still unknown. Spending time to spin instead of sending in help. Disgusting.

  4. We’re way past the point of no easy return. The only people who can get elected will just be re-arranging the deck chairs, since the majority of the electorate thinks free stuff will last forever.

    The best thing that could happen now is a massive default on our debt so no one will lend us money. The resulting huge dose of reality might save us. Maybe.

    Time to think about dredging a few lakes.

  5. The State Dept. did issue this at 4:05 pm Washington time which was 10:05 pm Benghazi time while the attack was still underway.

    10:05 p.m. (4:05 p.m. ET): An alert from the State Department Operations Center is issued to a number of government and intelligence agencies, including the White House Situation Room, the office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the FBI. “US Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack” — “approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM (Chief of Mission/embassy) personnel are in the compound safe haven.”

    One problem I’ve seen in talking about this is that the time difference between Benghazi and Washington changed several times since this happened. 9/11/12 Benghazi was on standard time of UTC +2 Eastern European time and DC was UTC -4 Eastern Daylight time. By the time people were talking about this DC had changed to Eastern Standard time of UTC -5. On Nov 10th 2012 Libya changed time zones to UTC +1 to be the same as Egypt and then in March 2013 started using Daylight Savings time for the first time since 1989. These changes have made talking about when things happened a bit difficult.

    At the time of the attack Benghazi was 6 hours ahead of DC.

  6. 10:00 pm Washington DC time was also when Obama and Hillary talked on the phone about Benghazi according to them.

    This was also the time in Benghazi, 4:00 am, when the mortar shell killed Woods & Doherty and wounded DSS David Ubben. It was a couple hours later (6:00 am) that our forces, which were at the airport for evac. discovered that Ambassador Stevens was dead and his body was at the Benghazi hospital.

  7. So if the Democrats boycott the hearings who the “Fluke” will they get to “testi-lie” at their Press Cconference “hearing?” Tommy-boy?

  8. It’s a qualified strategy geoffb, rooted in an “empirical” study, this boycott idea. Didn’t hear an uproar then, so they think “Won’t hear an uproar now.”

  9. “One problem I’ve seen in talking about this is that the time difference between Benghazi and Washington changed several times since this happened. ….. These changes have made talking about when things happened a bit difficult. “

    Convert everything to Zulu time..that is what it was invented for.

  10. You want to know what Adam Schiff doesn’t think is a waste of time? Talking about how the White House is displaying a rug made in 1920 by Armenian orphans. It has apparently been in storage since Calvin Coolidge was in office, but he has been “working diligently” to see that it might get displayed “as early as this fall”. But finding out why the current guy at #OccupyResoluteDesk let four Americans, including his personally-selected representative, die on his watch, and then lied about it for political gain, including throwing someone in jail over First Amendment issues? No biggie, stay at home, see whether the latest DWTS results are in…


  11. There’s a lesson here…

    -The Left is very savvy at delegitimizing our beliefs. They may succeed or not in this particular campaign that this apparatchik Schiff has begun, but, the reality is, the Left has succeeded many more times than not. This is why they end-up, most of the time, controlling The Narrative

    -This is why it is imperative that we begin to refuse to legitimize the Left’s beliefs. Of course, we have the added advantage that all Leftist Thinking is perverse, a mutation of Reason.

    And when we do this and the Left inevitably tries to delegitimize us for doing so by labeling us such things as ‘raaaaacist’, we should respond just as Andrew Breitbart used to: Just Say So?.

  12. “geoffb says May 4, 2014 at 12:39 pm 10:00 pm Washington DC time was also when Obama and Hillary talked on the phone about Benghazi according to them.”

    Thanks for the clarification, geoffb. Still no idea where Obama was between the end of his & Biden’s call w/Bibi (lasted 6:30-7:30 Eastern) and this 10:00pm call with Hillary – lotta time there to do something.

    The Dems were sure as heck trying to spin this a just kooky conspiracy theories on the Sunday talk shows. It was nice to see Brit Hume lay the smack down on Jane Harmon when she likened the talking points discussion to Area 51, etc. They expend more energy denouncing the Koch brothers (and spinning conspiracy theories that they are responsible for everything including AGW) than pondering how 36+ people almost perished in Benghazi thanks to Obama & Hillary’s inaction both before and during the attack.

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  14. What Libby wrote, Geoff, and, also, thanks for the time zone clarification.

  15. The crook ALWAYS tells the cop that the lady he just robbed is crazy.

  16. Can’t let one dead ambassador and three dead Seals stand in the way of fundamental change now, can we?

    Significant quibble: Two dead SEALs. Ty Woods and Glen Doherty. Sean Smith was an IT guy with State. And his mother is not playing with these scumbags. God bless her.

  17. I like Schiff’s idea. I think the Dems should make it perfectly clear that they don’t give a fuck what happened in Benghazi. America should know that they don’t actually care at all about the people who risk their lives for them.

    Bravo, Rep. Schiff. Be loud. Be proud. Make sure America knows you just don’t care that we knocked off an ostensible ally, handed his country to al-Qaeda and got 4 good American public servants killed in the process. Tell the nation, you’re fine that it was lied to and that it ought to shut up and stop questioning its betters.

    Loud and proud. Do it, asshole.

  18. Bob, that McInnis piece is the best. I linked it when the whole Bundy is a Raaaaaaaaaaacist!! deal was going on. It’s must read.

    Libby, watching Hume smack down Harmon was a thing of beauty. I watched it twice.

  19. Shorter David Plouffe: “RACISSs!”

  20. And from high atop Mt. Washington, the purple finch cries, “Live Free. Or Not.”

  21. Still no idea where Obama was between the end of his & Biden’s call w/Bibi (lasted 6:30-7:30 Eastern) and this 10:00pm call with Hillary – lotta time there to do something.

    There was a discovery (I saw linked and referred to on Insty or somewhere) in a post at the site of a certain ADA, that three people, who do Obama’s debate prep with him, were at the WH that day at an unspecified time and for an unspecified amount of time. So he could have been doing debate prep for those 2 1/2 hours.

    Whatever it was he wasn’t running to the sound of the guns focusing on saving those people and punishing those who did it. It was CYA for the election as job 1!

  22. Bob, I owe you an apology as you were right on. He’s just an ass who managed once to say some things sorta right but they must have been a mistake or more likely a calculated lie as his faith demands.

  23. -No apology necessary. I initially did the same thing; it was Mark Levin who shook me back into Reality.

    -Leigh: I think Mr. McInnis really understands Andrew.

    -Always remember: There are five a’s in raaaaacism!

  24. Latest pushback I have seen on Benghazi was something to the effect that 60 people were killed in embassy attacks while Bush was in office. Why can’t you Google, Republicans?

    If you do Google, you find out that most of the dead are embassy security staff (mostly local police), the attackers, and bystanders.

  25. Bob, one of the things I always loved about Breitbart was his in your face attitude. “So?” is perfect. It was also the reply of a very young Madonna shortly after the nude photos of her were published in ’85(?). “So what?” she said.

    Slarti, I’ve had to debunk that Bush let people die at the Embassies, too! meme at least four times yesterday. There is a sloppy, misleading list on Daily Kos and (I think) HuffPo.

  26. The way to begin going about chaning the narrative is by pointing out the the common thread throughout this affair, from what were Obama & Hillary doing the night of 9/11/12 to why the administrations spokesholes said what they said at the time, from what those same spokesholes are saying today about what they said then to why Rep. Schiff can’t be bothered with any of this is politics.

    Real people were killed. A real person was falsely imprisoned. Presumably all those spooks over at the annex were doing something real.

    Ultimately, what this is all about is finding out if Stephens Woods and Doherty died for something real, or if Obama’s foreign policy is just another piece of fiction.

    Like his memoirs.

  27. Pablo suggests we take Schiff up on his proposition. It’s maybe not a bad idea that we do, especially to the extent that thus far in the multiple Congressional Committee hearings of investigation the Democrats’ consistent and unified stance has been one of obstruction and obfuscation, doing everything in them possible to prevent actual investigation, to waste the time and energy of the various Committees, witnesses, and proceedings, all with a view to confusing the public or merely turn the public away from deliberate consideration of the events in Benghazi and the decisions made prior to Sept. 11th resulting in the events of that day.

    If the Democrats do participate in the Select Committee, would we expect their behavior to change? I don’t, though perhaps I miss some fundamental difference in the circumstances which would necessitate a change.

  28. Benghazi, the Maoist view.

  29. That is funny, trying to simplify the events as if all that matters is that embassy personnel died during Obama’s watch.

  30. it was more about trying to come up with a coherent message for the Sunday shows, she said

    I guess, “It is still a bit early to know everything that went on in that terrorist attack, and I don’t want to give any false impressions, especially to the families that deserve the truth to come out” isn’t coherent enough for someone basing his campaign on claiming “Al Qaeda is on the run”, especially less than eight weeks before the elections. Better to toss someone into jail for exercising his First Amendment Rights and trusting the lapdogs to not ask any questions…

  31. The video lie, per Andrew McCarthy, was developed for protests they were expecting in Egypt, which is why when that embassy was under siege members inside were sending out missives apologizing for the video. This was developed and calculated in advance of the Benghazi attacks.

  32. One excuse is as good as another when no one bothers to dig into the facts behind them.

    If only we had a group of people who were paid to dig up the facts behind what our government was doing, and then to put that information out to the people who are supposed to actually be in charge of the country, using whatever technological means existed to do so. (Used to be that would be called “the press”, rather than “the daily White House employee memo”.)

  33. The Coptic anger video stands in a precise analogy to the Danish cartoons of Muhammed used pretextually by Muslim-rageday developers to drive the narrative they wanted. There was never anything “spontaneous” about it in their hands. It was a tool, a means to an end.

  34. Oh, great. And, at this point, what difference could it possibly make?

  35. how important are “American lives” really anyways?

    we put some n number of millions of them on them on the fucking obamacare without batting a goddamn eye

    poor bastards

  36. on them

    I think I’m getting out of comment practice

    I’m a need to knuckle down and give a 110 percent going froward

  37. pickles.

  38. Thomas Jocelyn explains why the White House’s new handwaving obfuscation that the Rhodes’ memo wasn’t about Benghazi actually highlights that the White House’s case is even worse than merely covering up incompetence, both strategic and tactical, in Benghazi: it highlights incompetence across the entire Middle East and Muslim inhabited world.

    Highlighting the al-Qaeda led demonstrations and assaults at other embassies across the Middle East (even if the Islamists use the video as pretext) is highlighting the strength of the very thing — Al-Qaeda! yay! — which the White House was claiming the ClownDisaster strategy had put into retreat.

    Yet so little attention does the IWonPenPhonePress pay to al-Qaeda and any war against the Islamists, they missed these plain indictments of the whole ClownDisaster strategy (the forest), substituting instead the re-election tinsel-trees (Now with Bunnies!) the ClownDisaster administration erected for their fawning admirers’ pleasures. What isn’t written or spoken isn‘t, simply.

    Thus Al-Qaeda falls to the onslaught of a PenPhone — even while going from strength to strength, from killing to killing — in the actual event, by disappearing from the newspaper and evening news shows altogether. There is no strengthening Al-Qaeda because the press doesn’t mention them. And that will suffice.

    (“So may it be,” thinks the IWonPenPhonePress to itself, “with any Congressional Select Committee. We don’t mention it, it doesn’t exist!”

    Or, Al-Qaeda falls, see, ’cause in IWonPenPhones’ always shifting moral scheme, killing is bad when Al-Qaeda does it, the act of killing alone doing harm to the killers when the killers are Islamists. Whereas jdam or hellfire attacks from drones on Islamists and their children is good killing, by definition. And heck, in a pinch, even that latter killing can be made to disappear.

  39. How about killing done by al Qaeda with weapons provided by IWonPenPhone? Cancels out to be an a-moral event, sdferr?
    My head hurts.

  40. >pickles<

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