– At what point does the tide begin to turn, the backlash begin to burn the “race-baiter and victimhood” industry.
– Not so much a different time as a different planet. A time when things like character, personal integrity, and modesty meant something. Scroll down to see a nostalgic uber-early pre-Bandstand Dick Clark video, and yet another one-hit wonder, long forgotten pop artist..
“Every situation is different,” David Plouffe, Obama’s former top political adviser, said after visiting the White House this week. “Some have called for more of an approach that is geared to the outside. I think you have to wait and see how this develops.”
– Speaking on the immiration legislation which doesn’t look good for Bumblefuck, and what he’s really saying: Translation:
“We’ve seen the polls with 76% against the legislation, another loser for His Wance, so we’ll play “wait and see” and then when no ones paying much attention we’ll brand it as “unimportant”.
So this lawyer wants me to give him my e-mail addy so that he can send me a message that some chick needs me to read. Don’t know her; don’t know him. I demur.
I ask for the password to the girl’s iPhone so that I can read the message myself, but he doesn’t want to tell me out loud or in writing. He begins to scribble idly on a piece of paper, and I idly observe that the doodle looks like some kind of spread-spectrum modulation pattern.
Eureka! I explain to him how you can encode numbers on an RF signal by varying the amplitude and frequency: straight line is ZERO, slightly higher amplitude is ONE, next level is THREE, and the last level is SIX.
So while I’m off somewhere, he and his daughters arrange the books in the bookshelf so that the varying heights encode the iPhone password. I return and surreptitiously copy the numbers in sequence: zero, three, six, six, zero, one, etc. Some of the encoding is hard to read because the books are not quite one designated height or the other. People stream through the den, watching TV, flopping down in the beanbag chairs to converse.
Finally the lawyer and his daughters return. I point out my difficulty in interpreting the code, and then I realize that he didn’t stick to 0, 1, 3, 6: he did all of the digits 0-9.
Crap. People are already starting to take books off the shelves; there’s no way for me to go back and re-interpret the code.
Screw it. I give him my e-mail addy, street addy, phone number—the works. All this trouble for some dumb message, which I never got to read because I woke up.
Pity me, my friends. All of my dreams are this byzantine and exhausting. And all equally pointless.
Within my lifetime, political correctness took a huge blow to the face in the early 80’s(another dumb selfish generation) and again the late 90’s(when the whining got so thick that it killed grunge as a credible angry kids movement). It’s probably near peak for now. So anther four years or so and it should blow up and recede before a backlash.
Di, take the Mysterious Stranger’s advice and dream better dreams.
I had a Flintstones dream once and I think it may have been my favorite dream despite not ever being able to figure out how to get the otter to play my stone record collection and the mental production values being pretty awful. I especially remember constantly adjusting open bottomed my fur onesie when sitting down to avoid flashing people.
Also, every year I have wild sunflowers growing at the side of my driveway. I just let them grow, because hey, why not? They attract goldfinches and stuff.
Then this year, in that very spot, I got this specimen.
That’s not the wild version, which has smaller flowers with pure yellow petals: that’s a domestic. I checked my record to see when I last planted such a thing, and it looks like the year 2000, a cultivar called “Autumn Beauty.”
Damned if one of those seeds didn’t remain viable for 13 years. I’ve had volunteers from years and years ago, but never that long.
Di, I have a recurring dream wherein I am in a house/store/school that I am unfamiliar with and have to interact with a bunch of strangers most of whom either want my money or are hell-bent on killing me. On top of that, I usually have no idea what happened to my car making a get-a-way difficult since the streets are unfamiliar or I am suddenly in a huge parking structure.
I solved this a few months back by killing all of them, freeing myself from this stupid dream that has chased me for almost 30 years.
It’s been a long, long time since I had a scary nightmare. These days when I have a nightmare I end up getting pissed off and wake up (usually) before it comes to violence.
Once I dreamed I was in a gunfight and won it pretty easily. The only scary nightmare I’ve had since then, I was worried someone might find the body.
I see this as a good way to turn things around in the Hispanic community.
Let’s take a page out of their playbook and simply keep repeating this meme (below) over and over:
“Why oh why do they hate Hispanics? The democrat party and the MSM hate Hispanics and this is why they have set forth a lynch mob to persecute Zimmerman.”
Keep saying the above. Repeat it. Keep it up in every interview. Make it become the narrative and take control of it.
And BTW, I don’t mean “good” as is good that Zimmerman is on trial. It is a travesty and I feel for the guy and his family. I meant good in the overarching narrative that dems are the party of the underclass/minorities/peace/love/masturbation in public/etc… and that conservatives are just plain mean racists can come to an end if we start chipping away at the conventional wisdom by using these show trials as proof that the democrat party never really got rid of its racist past.
Because they didn’t get Mr. Zimmerman’s rather tan hide, it’s time for collective punishment of whitey as representatives of a racist system that won’t recognize that nobody follows Trayvon.
I mean it’s not like he got drunk, crashed his car in a canal and drowned his date and ran home to hide behind his richer than rich father instead of help retrieve her body and turn himself in.
This is a win for Zimmerman, if you can call a year of hell, enormous legal costs, and future persecution in a thousand ways a win, but it’s still a loss or America in the main.
A clear message has been sent. If you think it a positive one, go ahead and relax, you’re in your own little Utopia already. Just know, self defense can be a VERY risky thing.
This is a win for Zimmerman, if you can call a year of hell, enormous legal costs, and future persecution in a thousand ways a win, but it’s still a loss or America in the main.
A clear message has been sent. If you think it a positive one, go ahead and relax, you’re in your own little Utopia already. Just know, self defense can be a VERY risky thing.
I’d like to see a cartoon of Justice cutting Zimmerman down from the makeshift gallows with her sword and saying “I’m blind, NOT stupid.” while in the background Busta Rhymes has a shrieking fit.
Don’t knock someone down and straddle them and pound their head on the pavement and you won’t get shot. Unless you are in Chicago in a poor neighborhood. Then it’s just a matter of time.
The message from the #Zimmerman case: Walk on by. Let chaos happen. Do nothing, because if you do you risk it all for the crime of being you.
Beck has been all over this tangent, though not on the Trayvon tip. Rather, we are being constantly dissuaded from being the actual first responders that nature and geography dictate that we are. We’re all supposed to cry for help and wait while circumstances overtake us and eventually the gubmint comes to do something.
– If Sam Kinison were still alive, he’d be doing an in your face number on the prosecution: “I just have one thing to say to the prosecuting lawyers in the Zimmerman case ……. Say IT….SAY IT…..INNOCENT!!!!
Can’t win in reality? No problem! Simply retreat into a dumb story where a picture of Zimmerman in a jail jumpsuit is called a lily white supremacist and wanna be cop from a gated community who hunts down a smiling 11 year old child with a skittles, calls him a “fuckin’ coon” and stalks him and ‘SHOOTS HIM DOWN IN THE BACK….LIKE A DAAAAAWWG’ as the police tell him to stay in his truck which of course makes his leaving the truck a crime. Then the police let him go because they hate blacks. Oh and HE HAD NO WOUNDS ON HIS HEAD IN THIS ONE PICTURE I SAW. CONSPIRACY!!! Fire can’t melt steel! George Bush is a shape changing reptillian hybrid who eats baby blood! Not that killing babies is a bad thing when Gosnell does it. RACISM!
I’m pleasantly surprised by the verdict, though it was of course the correct one given all the evidence I have seen. Zimmerman is, of course, a marked man, and likely will be the rest of his life, thanks to the media and race-baiters like Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama.
Maybe this country isn’t fucked beyond ALL recognition after all.
Maybe, but the current holder of the highest office in the land thinks the nasty dead kid looks like he could be the child of Obazm, which, given the unprovoked assault, looks indeed like the man is right.
– I think Zimmerman should consider moving to Russia, or following Snowden to where ever he ends up until we can get the fucking country back from the bastard Marxists.
Sharpton is an ass. You don’t get to bitch about justice after Tawana Brawley, Freddie’s Fashion Mart fire, and crown heights. Irony lightning? There should be more like an irony x-ray laser.
The fact that anyone mistakes Al Sharpton for a serious person worthy of consideration is prima facie evidence that this is no longer a serious nation.
Which reminds me, I have a plan to get all the illegal aliens out of the US.
All, and I mean all, white males move into Mexico. In five years, all the illegals will sneak back across the border ‘cuz of the economic advantages and law and order . Then we go home, and bang, no more need worrying about amnesty!
Yes, I gotcha Ernst, I just wanted to fill in the exceptional circumstances, i.e. it isn’t the usual situation to have a President who admits he identifies with a common criminal.
[W]e are being constantly dissuaded from being the actual first responders that nature and geography dictate that we are. We’re all supposed to cry for help and wait while circumstances overtake us and eventually the gubmint comes to do something.
Fuck that is all I can say.
The wolves never like the sheepdogs. The smart wolves dislike the sheepdogs because they want to convince the sheep that they, the wolves, are the sheepdogs to keep them safe from the other wolves.
You might say that they’re the wolves standing between the sheep and the mob pack.
But don’t you dare ask them which way they’re facing. That would be speciesist.
All, and I mean all, white males move into Mexico. In five years, all the illegals will sneak back across the border ‘cuz of the economic advantages and law and order . Then we go home, and bang, no more need worrying about amnesty!
I’m getting too old to be throwing down with narco-trafficantes.
Let’s take a page out of their playbook and simply keep repeating this meme (below) over and over:
“Why oh why do they hate Hispanics? The democrat party and the MSM hate Hispanics and this is why they have set forth a lynch mob to persecute Zimmerman.”
Keep saying the above. Repeat it. Keep it up in every interview. Make it become the narrative and take control of it.
And we want hispanics to hate blacks and/or democrats because that benefits us how exactly?
I only bring it up in the spirit of how you get there matters. I have no problem pointing out to minorites that the Democrats exploit the fact of their minority status, and therefore try to keep them in their present condition. Whatever that condition happens to be.
“I only bring it up in the spirit of how you get there matters.”
i’m mulling a demonstration at kathy kane’s house in her whitopia in ne pa with “black and white” americans asking why she will not defend the 9 + 10 amends. of the us constitution?
i’m mulling a demonstration at kathy kane’s house in her whitopia in ne pa with “black and white” americans asking why she will not defend the 9 + 10 amends. of the us constitution?
There’s an answer to that, but you won’t like it (nor should you).
“There’s an answer to that, but you won’t like it (nor should you).”
i gave some thought to it: it is better for an individual to stand in front of kline’s house and call her out. black, white, white hispanic, gay, whatever. ask her about states 9-10th amendment rights?
As I (possibly incorrectly) understand it, the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine holds that the 14th amendment effectively rendered the 9th and 10th null and void.
” the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine holds that the 14th amendment effectively rendered the 9th and 10th null and void. ”
to whom. “former slave holding states”? is the “supreme court” supreme? time to see what this constitution is really about? where is “marriage” in the us constitution?
The prosecution was not inclusive and should have painted Zimmerman as a Kluxer, because then people would have a better feeling about whatever outcome came about because you know the conversation was had.
I don’t think the former prosecutor understand that a courtroom is not an Oprah segment. Besides the prosecution team in court was all white so Racism.
” the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine holds that the 14th amendment effectively rendered the 9th and 10th null and void. ”
to whom. “former slave holding states”? is the “supreme court” supreme? time to see what this constitution is really about? where is “marriage” in the us constitution?
The Supreme Court has held in effect that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States[.] No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of Citizens of the United States; nor shall any State … deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” renders the 9th and 10th moot. The 9th amendment means you can go beyond what the Feds allow (e.g., you could let 12 year olds vote in State elections, even though the Feds won’t let 12 year olds vote in Federal elections), but equal protection means you can’t Not acknowledge “rights” acknowledged by the Feds. As for the 10th. the 14th means that there aren’t any powers not delegated to the U.S. by the 14th amendment to the Constitution, so there’s nothing to be reserved to either the states or the people.
As to marriage in the constitution, I’m guessing that sonofabitch legal sophist Kennedy would say that it’s in the Constitution under the X, “reserved to the people” as it were, and the Supreme Court’s juris prudence on the IX’s equal protection clause means that men have the same right to marry men as they have to marry women.
In other words, the IX and X only exist when it’s convenient to the federal government (or more exactly, to the Court) for them to exist. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of the intention of the framers.
Again, that’s my layman’s understanding based on two courses on Constitutional Law as part of a Political Science double major completed almost twenty years ago.
So, grains of salt —the size of the ones in your water softener— and all that.
blaming blamers blame it’s what they do everyone else pours themselves an adult beverage and raises their glass in a silent toast to Angela Corey’s and Pam Biondi’s humiliated fascist whore cunts what remain needy of a pounding injustice and the heady frisson of freedom-rape
“In other words, the IX and X only exist when it’s convenient to the federal government (or more exactly, to the Court) for them to exist. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of the intention of the framers. ”
that’s why”Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen G. Kane”
hey hey ‘ho ‘ho kathy has got to go. nice lawyer skills stupid bitch
I’m inclined to agree with you, but look at it from her perspective. Like I said the other day, it’s probably her (or her staffs) considered legal opinion that PA’s law runs afoul of Justice Kennedy, so it’s unlikely to survive judicial review. Fighting the ACLU in court is only going to cost the taxpayers a shit load of money to no good purpose (if only Rachel Corey’s office had that much foresight!), so why bother?
The fact that she happens to agree personally (we’re assuming) with the ACLU is just a bonus.
The reason to make the fight is the hope that you get a strong enough dissenting opinion that a future Supreme Court can someday use as the basis for reversing itself.
But the court doesn’t like to do that. Especially not when there’s a nominally conservative Chief Justice running things.
And by that, I mean the Court under both Rehnquist and Roberts has had far more respect for the Court’s past rulings than it did under Berger or Warren. That’s probably an unintended consequence of replacing judicial activists with justices who believe in judicial restraint.
Or more to the point, replacing living constitution activists with textualists instead of originalists.
” Like I said the other day, it’s probably her (or her staffs) considered legal opinion that PA’s law runs afoul of Justice Kennedy, so it’s unlikely to survive judicial review.”
she is the hired peep. she give it up too soon. she be a fraud. you got the office fight or we be brandishing squid™ feathers and tar. should be interesting.
“Benjamin Crump, the attorney for the Martin family, acknowledged the disappointment of Trayvon’s supporters, as heranked the teenager alongside civil rights heroes Medgar Evers and Emmett Till in the history of the fight for equal justice.”
This kind of hyperbole makes me want to vomit over the keyboard. Evers walked twelve miles to school to earn his high-school diploma and fought for his country in WWII. Martin was a thug life admirer with a juvie record; he wasn’t fit to shine Evers’ shoes.
The other reason to make the fight is that the people of Pennsylvania enacted a law through their elected representatives and their entitled to a presumption of constitutionality.
But don’t expect the federal courts to give a shit about what the idiot voters of any one state happen to think.
Ernst – I definitely understand the how you get there matters doctrine. I was looking at it in terms of taking a page from the opposition’s playbook and making them see that the democrat party is not the one they should be giving their allegiance to.
In short, to borrow from Jeff G (somewhat), we need to start controlling the narrative.
However, I do conceded that this was not a fully formed strategy. More of a “lets throw things against the wall and see if they stick” kind of brainstorming.
“how can a “supreme court” decide something not listed in the us constitution? they make sh*t up no?”
The induced that there must be implicit Penumbras (shadows cast by the text) and emanations(illuminating rays cast from the text) that must modify the meaning of the text for the text to have any consistent meaning at all. They claim that is is a system of externalities whereby assumptions must beget other assumptions if thought through. The text is like a fractal gradient that can be pored over in the hopes of finding links to things the text does not cover or loopholes to circumvent some effect explicitly covered by the text.
Thus you HAVE an absolute implicit right to an abortion because you have another implicit but absolute right to privacy (where matters of abortion and abortion only are concerned) but the 2nd amendment with its “shall not be infringed” language protects only a very narrow sliver of the right to bear arms, then possibly only for a well regulated militia as defined by gun control advocates, and THAT only imperfectly should the populace or their representatives or the regulatory and enforcement bureaucracy wish to ever ignore it in the best interest of the said population or just to frivolously pursue a cool fad.
In short if you can squint at it and see something and you are a judge then you get to tell people what it really does and really doesn’t say until you are eventually replaced by activist judges who disagree with you but are on the right side of history and are more useful to the revolution.
It’s fucking Calvin ball.
We are lucky that they did not base their rationalizations for ignoring the text on concepts of rigidity, astronomical convergences, crystal structures, botany, vibrations, endothermic chemistry, orbital momentums, or the critical vocabulary and style for review of pieces of art nouveau. Lights and shadows is easy.
In short, to borrow from Jeff G (somewhat), we need to start controlling the narrative.
The way to control the narrative is to demonstrate how the narrative is, to borrow from palaeomarus, “fucking Calvin ball”, not to replace the narrative with a “narrative” of our own.
That’s what I was trying to get at.
When confronted by the narrative, the thing to do, to take my turn borrowing from Jeff G., is to say “that’s a fucking lie,” and “you’re a fucking liar,” or maybe “you’re a lying fucker.”
[I]f you can squint at it and see something and you are a judge then you get to tell people what it really does and really doesn’t say until you are eventually replaced by activist judges who disagree with you but are on the right side of history and are more useful to the revolution.
Everything is in the Constitution, waiting to be discovered, by virtue of the IX amendment. The XIV amendment’s equal protection clause, together with the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine, means that once the Federal judiciary “discovers” it (whatever “it” happens to be). it’s binding on 50 states.
So if, like Brian, you want to look on the bright side, by not defending PA’s marriage law, only PA’s law goes down. If PA defended it, and the court struck it down, it’s possible (even probable) that the court’s decision would apply to every state that recognizes marriage traditionally.
[W]hether or not Obama decides to double down and pursue Federal charges against Zimmerman remains to be seen.
I’d dearly love to watch some happless fed assert Trayvon Martin had a civil right to beat George Zimmerman to the point that Zimmerman feared for his life, and that Zimmerman interferred with that right by exercising his right to self defense.
The only reason for the Justice Department to go after Zimmerman would be that the political leadership deliberately and consciously desired to discredit the Department and the legal system by arguing just such an absurdity.
It’s certainly stupid but is it stupidity? Caprice, frivolity, absurdity, arrogance, habitual resort to autocratic ‘pulled from the ass’ grandiose wish-casting, formal cognitive dissolution, ironic art…um…pissing in a peon’s face to see if he’ll let you empty your whole bladder in confusion, or punch you right in the dick and start dragging you over towards an eight foot drop to a below street level dumpster creche with a ramp leading down to it…I think its something more like that.
Is there a fancy latin word for acting up like a demon with brain damage until someone finally smells the wuss gene in your blood, doesn’t want to put up with more of your shit, and slaps you down hard enough to turn your shameful cringe reflex back on and restore your basic humanity?
“I’m guessing that sonofabitch legal sophist Kennedy would say that it’s in the Constitution under the X, “reserved to the people” as it were”
And in that specific case, that sonafabitch legal sophist Kennedy would be one hundred percent correct. The Constitution has exactly two things to say about marriage laws: “jack” and “shit”.
Okay. If Jamie Foxx tweets ANYTHING about this then I’m sending a letter to Sony Pictures about why I am boycotting the next Amazing Spider-Man film. Seriously.
How can I boycott this guy? His movies are already unwatchable. I’ve been boycotting him just for being in the Dungeons and Dragons movie. Hell I’m boycotting Tom Baker for it too. And Jeremy irons. If you were in the Dungeons and Dragons movie then I don’t want to hear from you. Ever. Yeah, you too Thora Birch.
The press did a test run to see if they could muscle the courts system. It turned out that they could.
The ‘stand your ground’ law got trampled.
But six jurors didn’t buy it and ultimately didn’t fall for the intimidation. They were still, in their hearts, true Americans who believed in the justice that the court and the local authorities and the DA were so willing to toss under the bus.
And yes, the bus was there. The Justice Department had it’s tendrils snaking about the background trial. This was melded into a quasi campaign issue last fall. BUT the radicalized mob did not win the day. The stupid cartoonish horse shit version of events where a tiny smiling eleven year old buy was shot in the back in a gated community by a racist monster who constantly harassed the cops and hated black people blew up. Sadly there are still bloated idiots trying to pass it around as gospel on twitter.
BUT the mob made its demands and threats and yet the bad case STILL led to an acquittal.
This time.
But DAMN we came close to the edge.
And Nakoula is still in jail for his youtube video that did but didn’t cause Benghazi.
WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA! A stupid, ignorant, piss soaked mob is being stirred up against you and the practice of law is becoming a mere fluid. Soon you will dangle at the merest nod of self appointed lords and the mob will howl like locusts and MSNBC will celebrate it. AWAKEN!
” In real justice systems, the state decides what crime has been committed and charges somebody with it. In the Zimmerman trial, the state’s “theory of the case” is that it has no theory of the case: might be murder, might be manslaughter, might be aggravated assault, might be a zillion other things, but it’s something. If you’re a juror, feel free to convict George Zimmerman of whatever floats your boat.
Nailing a guy on something, anything, is a time-honored American tradition: If you can’t get Al Capone on the Valentine’s Day massacre, get him on his taxes. ”
“Multiple charges tend, through sheer weight of numbers, to favor a result in which the jury convict on some and acquit on others and then tell themselves that they’ve reached a “moderate” “compromise” as befits the reasonable persons they assuredly are. It is, of course, not reasonable. Indeed, the notion of a “compromise” between conviction and acquittal is a dagger at the heart of justice.”
” In Sanford, the state’s second closing “argument” to the strange, shrunken semi-jury of strikingly unrepresentative peers — facts, shmacts, who really knows? vote with your hearts — brilliantly dispenses with the need for a “case” at all. “
Martin was a thug life admirer with a juvie record; he wasn’t fit to shine Evers’ shoes.
But he is also a Crump & Parker financial asset which they are willing to go to any length, even the conviction and/or execution of an innocent man, to keep the money, power, and fame rolling in. And they are not alone in that consideration.
Wow. Without comments Althouse’s blog is hardly worth reading anymore. Dull as dry mud. Is she trying to detach from the Instapundit mains? If so why? Does she welcome a slide towards obscurity?
Lupe Fiasco, who I don’t know at all, also says “Yeah gimme that anger…once again that rage…that misguided angst when you true enemy is your own complacency and cowardice.”
Lupe seems to have privately discovered or re-discovered the actual meaning of tragedy, and with it, the proper target to which to apply the concept. He’s also going to learn what it means to be alone.
Even at Breitbart comments get disappeared apparently.
In this piece I first posted that there was a slightly earlier piece which called Zimmerman “white” and it showed up for a while but now seems to be gone.
Then I attempted to correct this poster By showing that the drink was Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail which along with Skittles and Robotussin DM is the formula for the drug called “Lean“. and that comment went into moderation and then disappeared.
Nice “news” site ya got there now. Can’t have any little person fucking with their truth either.
A portion of the view of John Locke (Second Treatise, Chapter III, Secs. 17 -19, Of the State of War)
*** Sec. 17. And hence it is, that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power, does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life: for I have reason to conclude, that he who would get me into his power without my consent, would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for no body can desire to have me in his absolute power, unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom, i.e. make me a slave. To be free from such force is the only security of my preservation; and reason bids me look on him, as an enemy to my preservation, who would take away that freedom which is the fence to it; so that he who makes an attempt to enslave me, thereby puts himself into a state of war with me. He that, in the state of nature, would take away the freedom that belongs to any one in that state, must necessarily be supposed to have a foundation of all the rest; as he that in the state of society, would take away the freedom belonging to those of that society or commonwealth, must be supposed to design to take away from them every thing else, and so be looked on as in a state of war.
Sec. 18. This makes it lawful for a man to kill a thief, who has not in the least hurt him, nor declared any design upon his life, any farther than, by the use of force, so to get him in his power, as to take away his money, or what he pleases, from him; because using force, where he has no right, to get me into his power, let his pretence be what it will, I have no reason to suppose, that he, who would take away my liberty, would not, when he had me in his power, take away every thing else. And therefore it is lawful for me to treat him as one who has put himself into a state of war with me, i.e. kill him if I can; for to that hazard does he justly expose himself, whoever introduces a state of war, and is aggressor in it.
Sec. 19. And here we have the plain difference between the state of nature and the state of war, which however some men have confounded, are as far distant, as a state of peace, good will, mutual assistance and preservation, and a state of enmity, malice, violence and mutual destruction, are one from another. Men living together according to reason, without a common superior on earth, with authority to judge between them, is properly the state of nature. But force, or a declared design of force, upon the person of another, where there is no common superior on earth to appeal to for relief, is the state of war: and it is the want of such an appeal gives a man the right of war even against an aggressor, tho’ he be in society and a fellow subject. Thus a thief, whom I cannot harm, but by appeal to the law, for having stolen all that I am worth, I may kill, when he sets on me to rob me but of my horse or coat; because the law, which was made for my preservation, where it cannot interpose to secure my life from present force, which, if lost, is capable of no reparation, permits me my own defence, and the right of war, a liberty to kill the aggressor, because the aggressor allows not time to appeal to our common judge, nor the decision of the law, for remedy in a case where the mischief may be irreparable. Want of a common judge with authority, puts all men in a state of nature: force without right, upon a man’s person, makes a state of war, both where there is, and is not, a common judge. ***
Wow. Without comments Althouse’s blog is hardly worth reading anymore. Dull as dry mud. Is she trying to detach from the Instapundit mains? If so why? Does she welcome a slide towards obscurity?”
Yep. The comments were what “made it happen.” I won’t bother with it anymore.
Even a flatworm is smart enough to avoid pain. (From Instapundit regarding a proposed solution for the recent trend of bureaucracy and litigiousness being used to squelch free speech)
Well her “thoughts I done thunked up today and a picture of some ratty ducks” format is about as much fun as watching an ice cube melting in a kitchen sink on wednesday night because the cat won’t play with me.
Althouse’s fit of pique reveals a petty soul. The childish “email your comments to my husband and he’ll decide if you’re worthy” was laughable forabout two minutes. Now it is just lame.
There’s something I think I observed which occurred during the trial which hasn’t been mentioned (or at least, I haven’t seen it mentioned yet), and which I’d like to attempt to put in print.
And it is this: recall the one moment when George Zimmerman could not maintain his calm composure and a genuine smile and laugh became his countenance? That was when his teacher told the slight joke on the witness stand that he would not wait to be killed before he would use deadly force to protect himself, remember?
So, here’s the thing I thought I saw — that Zimmerman laughed and smiled out of his love for that teacher. He couldn’t contain it, his love of that rational and loveable man Captain Carter. Zimmerman was for a split second unguarded, and his feeling escaped. Of course, he subdued it quickly, but nevertheless, there it was to see.
So, here’s the thing I thought I saw — that Zimmerman laughed and smiled out of his love for that teacher. He couldn’t contain it, his love of that rational and loveable man Captain Carter.
The truth is that children and adults are the victims of beatings every day, but not everyone getting beaten up imagines that they’re going to be killed – and thus justifies killing the other person!
Good flippin lord, Pablo!! That actually was published in “Psychology Today”?
That actually was published in “Psychology Today”?
Somehow or other I can’t find anything surprising about it. But then I long ago concluded such publications have little but a form of hackery on offer. Certainly they are not concerned with discovering truth since they are premised on the utter absence in the world of any such thing.
In the light of the matter of the lynch party, so called (and only a little a stretch, though fortunately not a stretched neck), I wandered off to take another look at Don West’s opening knock-knock joke and happened accidentaly into this account at NEWSONE For Black America:
*** In perfect symmetry with the racist, flippant, insincere and insensitive rhetoric spewed by George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, his defense attorney, Don West, opened the closely watched trial with a knock knock joke.
Yes, a knock knock joke.
After telling the jury not to hold the comedy routine against Zimmerman if they felt it to be inappropriate, West laid on the cocktail party humor:
“Knock-knock.”
“Who’s there?”
“George Zimmerman.”
“George Zimmerman, who?”
“Alright good. You’re on the jury.”
When the joke was met with silence, West urged the jury to lighten up.
Sorry to be late to respond SW: I went off to watch a bit of the Futures game.
Why Black America needed different news? They don’t, of course, but as this neo-neocon commenter Beverly points out with an extended quote of Booker T. Washington’s observation (I make here in brief) “There’s gold in themthar hills!”
“I’m guessing that sonofabitch legal sophist Kennedy would say that it’s in the Constitution under the X, “reserved to the people” as it were”
And in that specific case, that sonafabitch legal sophist Kennedy would be one hundred percent correct. The Constitution has exactly two things to say about marriage laws: “jack” and “shit”.
Kennedy didn’t leave it at that though, did he? That’s what makes him a sophist.
– At what point does the tide begin to turn, the backlash begin to burn the “race-baiter and victimhood” industry.
– Not so much a different time as a different planet. A time when things like character, personal integrity, and modesty meant something. Scroll down to see a nostalgic uber-early pre-Bandstand Dick Clark video, and yet another one-hit wonder, long forgotten pop artist..
‘Protest,’ Riots, To-may-to, To-mah-to
New Black Panther Chairman: Obama Has ‘Silenced’ Civil Rights Leaders
“Every situation is different,” David Plouffe, Obama’s former top political adviser, said after visiting the White House this week. “Some have called for more of an approach that is geared to the outside. I think you have to wait and see how this develops.”
– Speaking on the immiration legislation which doesn’t look good for Bumblefuck, and what he’s really saying: Translation:
“We’ve seen the polls with 76% against the legislation, another loser for His Wance, so we’ll play “wait and see” and then when no ones paying much attention we’ll brand it as “unimportant”.
The immigration bill looks DOA and Obamacare is unraveling. The Wan’s “legacy” isn’t looking shiny-bright.
– At what point does the tide begin to turn, the backlash begin to burn the “race-baiter and victimhood” industry.
Same way as obsolete scientific paradigms die out: when their proponents grow old, die, and take the garbage to their graves.
zimmerman better hope that horse doesn’t go nowheres
he’s in a very precarious situation I think
– I’d say Miami is the one in a precarious position.
He’s complaining that his competition has been silenced? He certainly has never been, not at anytime, for anything.
You might think that the DOJ “hearts” the NBPP.
So this lawyer wants me to give him my e-mail addy so that he can send me a message that some chick needs me to read. Don’t know her; don’t know him. I demur.
I ask for the password to the girl’s iPhone so that I can read the message myself, but he doesn’t want to tell me out loud or in writing. He begins to scribble idly on a piece of paper, and I idly observe that the doodle looks like some kind of spread-spectrum modulation pattern.
Eureka! I explain to him how you can encode numbers on an RF signal by varying the amplitude and frequency: straight line is ZERO, slightly higher amplitude is ONE, next level is THREE, and the last level is SIX.
So while I’m off somewhere, he and his daughters arrange the books in the bookshelf so that the varying heights encode the iPhone password. I return and surreptitiously copy the numbers in sequence: zero, three, six, six, zero, one, etc. Some of the encoding is hard to read because the books are not quite one designated height or the other. People stream through the den, watching TV, flopping down in the beanbag chairs to converse.
Finally the lawyer and his daughters return. I point out my difficulty in interpreting the code, and then I realize that he didn’t stick to 0, 1, 3, 6: he did all of the digits 0-9.
Crap. People are already starting to take books off the shelves; there’s no way for me to go back and re-interpret the code.
Screw it. I give him my e-mail addy, street addy, phone number—the works. All this trouble for some dumb message, which I never got to read because I woke up.
Pity me, my friends. All of my dreams are this byzantine and exhausting. And all equally pointless.
Jesse Jackson, Racist!
That was my dream message Dicentra. It was “Be sure to drink your Ovaltine”.
The dream message for next week will be “Arby’s is having a roast beef sale!”.
“- At what point does the tide begin to turn, the backlash begin to burn the “race-baiter and victimhood” industry – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=50061#comment-1002184”
Within my lifetime, political correctness took a huge blow to the face in the early 80’s(another dumb selfish generation) and again the late 90’s(when the whining got so thick that it killed grunge as a credible angry kids movement). It’s probably near peak for now. So anther four years or so and it should blow up and recede before a backlash.
Di, take the Mysterious Stranger’s advice and dream better dreams.
I had a Flintstones dream once and I think it may have been my favorite dream despite not ever being able to figure out how to get the otter to play my stone record collection and the mental production values being pretty awful. I especially remember constantly adjusting open bottomed my fur onesie when sitting down to avoid flashing people.
I had an Arby’s Max last night. The girl at the drive-in recognized my widdle tree-frog.
Also, every year I have wild sunflowers growing at the side of my driveway. I just let them grow, because hey, why not? They attract goldfinches and stuff.
Then this year, in that very spot, I got this specimen.
That’s not the wild version, which has smaller flowers with pure yellow petals: that’s a domestic. I checked my record to see when I last planted such a thing, and it looks like the year 2000, a cultivar called “Autumn Beauty.”
Damned if one of those seeds didn’t remain viable for 13 years. I’ve had volunteers from years and years ago, but never that long.
i planted some Tithonia rotundifolia this year
Di, I have a recurring dream wherein I am in a house/store/school that I am unfamiliar with and have to interact with a bunch of strangers most of whom either want my money or are hell-bent on killing me. On top of that, I usually have no idea what happened to my car making a get-a-way difficult since the streets are unfamiliar or I am suddenly in a huge parking structure.
I solved this a few months back by killing all of them, freeing myself from this stupid dream that has chased me for almost 30 years.
Happy. He’s already dead. It’s just a matter of execution.
It’s been a long, long time since I had a scary nightmare. These days when I have a nightmare I end up getting pissed off and wake up (usually) before it comes to violence.
Once I dreamed I was in a gunfight and won it pretty easily. The only scary nightmare I’ve had since then, I was worried someone might find the body.
poor man
i remember when tray tray first got dead and I went to Miss Peaches and one of the cooks had some kind of ANGRY TRAYVON MESSAGE on his shirt
i went there one time after that but
it wasn’t the same
I don’t want my soul food cooked with anger fuck that action
so now I just go to mofongo’s when I want soul food cause even if it’s not soul food they cook it with love
via drudge the baracky touch
Govt’s worldwide view America as arrogant superpower…
I see this as a good way to turn things around in the Hispanic community.
Let’s take a page out of their playbook and simply keep repeating this meme (below) over and over:
“Why oh why do they hate Hispanics? The democrat party and the MSM hate Hispanics and this is why they have set forth a lynch mob to persecute Zimmerman.”
Keep saying the above. Repeat it. Keep it up in every interview. Make it become the narrative and take control of it.
Verdict is in.
And BTW, I don’t mean “good” as is good that Zimmerman is on trial. It is a travesty and I feel for the guy and his family. I meant good in the overarching narrative that dems are the party of the underclass/minorities/peace/love/masturbation in public/etc… and that conservatives are just plain mean racists can come to an end if we start chipping away at the conventional wisdom by using these show trials as proof that the democrat party never really got rid of its racist past.
They’re about to announce the verdict now.
Shit. My stomach is clenched all to hell.
Not guilty.
THANK GOD.
THANK GOD.
Poor hispanics. Only a single dirty glance away from being classified as whites now.
NOT GUILTY!!!
Heh. I puked a little bit anyway. I got way too stressed out over this.
Now we just need God to keep an eye on George and Miami for a while and the prosecution to get sued into the infamousness they deserve.
Orlando as well I guess. And surrounding communities. Kissiimee, etc.
I’m so glad for Zimmerman and his family.
Also, I’ve been hearing Judge Nelson sentence him to a VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER! in my head.
SWEET.
Maybe there is a god.
If there were (additional) justice in the world, George Zimmerman would ultimately find himself owning several media outlets in the U.S…
The prosecution team insists they are one and all morons who can’t distinguish their own hand in front of their face, and proud of it.
Because they didn’t get Mr. Zimmerman’s rather tan hide, it’s time for collective punishment of whitey as representatives of a racist system that won’t recognize that nobody follows Trayvon.
Jeez
Corey and company are retrying the case during a news conference
“I respect the jury’s verdict”
You brought a shitty case and tried to put it over with intimidation. Own it jackass.
And Angela Corey talks out of her ass to cover it.
Corey and Co better say good night.
You lost. Get over it.
Why are we watching interviews of the losers?
Jurors to be served with IRS audit notices in 5… 4… 3…
Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutors ‘Should Be Disbarred’
And prosecuted…
Well I’m going to go over to Twitchy and scare the heck out of myself as the internet has a four course hate-gasm over this.
Zimmerman served with federal civil rights charges (most likely hand-delivered by Eric Holder himself) before Monday. Count on it…
I suspect Daily Kos is likely going to have a meltdown before tonight ends…
I doubt it, eCurmudgeon. It’s radioactive now.
Don West is such a mensch.
Isn’t he, though? They did a outstanding job.
Which? The civil rights ploy, or the Orange Menace?
Corey & Co.
*plonk*
The civil rights ploy.
Where does Mr. Zimmerman go to get his life and reputation back?
The LI crew is having a blast.
I mean it’s not like he got drunk, crashed his car in a canal and drowned his date and ran home to hide behind his richer than rich father instead of help retrieve her body and turn himself in.
This is a win for Zimmerman, if you can call a year of hell, enormous legal costs, and future persecution in a thousand ways a win, but it’s still a loss or America in the main.
A clear message has been sent. If you think it a positive one, go ahead and relax, you’re in your own little Utopia already. Just know, self defense can be a VERY risky thing.
Rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.
life is good in proggtardia tonite
A good summary from Kurt Schlichter on Twitter:
mt chair edition
Dionne Warwick – Walk On By
O’Mara is lambasting the mediots to their very faces for the rush to judgement.
I think I love him.
O’ Mara spanks the media.
I guess we’ll soon see if blacks are as fucking stupid as sensible people already believe them to be.
I’d like to see a cartoon of Justice cutting Zimmerman down from the makeshift gallows with her sword and saying “I’m blind, NOT stupid.” while in the background Busta Rhymes has a shrieking fit.
Been chatting with some twits who don’t like the verdict. They see it as black man gets profiled then shot by non-black man. Forensics? Fuggedaboutit!
And besides, Trayvon was just defending himself against a man with a gun!
Trayvon had Skittles; Z-man had a gun!
An innocent black teen is dead and a grown man walks!
That’s all they see.
Don’t knock someone down and straddle them and pound their head on the pavement and you won’t get shot. Unless you are in Chicago in a poor neighborhood. Then it’s just a matter of time.
Beck has been all over this tangent, though not on the Trayvon tip. Rather, we are being constantly dissuaded from being the actual first responders that nature and geography dictate that we are. We’re all supposed to cry for help and wait while circumstances overtake us and eventually the gubmint comes to do something.
Fuck that is all I can say.
– A win for rugged individualism, self-defense, and fuck you Progs.
– Which, of course, cannot stand, so the hair pulling, clutching of pearls, screaching and rending of clothes will now commence.
– Coupled with Bumblefucks many arena’s of woes, Texas, and now this, it hasn’t been a good week for teh Utopia.
In Chicago they shoot kids just for going to school. And Busta Rhymes doesn’t say a word about it.
And Busta Rhymes doesn’t say a word about it.
– For now, with the Lefturds in power there’s no money in truth and honesty.
just remember proggtardia luvs some anarchy.
– Hey, when you’re trying to peddle gasta rap there’s only one way to go.
Martin’s are in a safe house for their own security?
if i be a tweeter #justiceforzimmerman to put it their face but i’m not a tweeter
skittels, watermelon tea and codeine be tough to peddle to the metal
Maybe this country isn’t fucked beyond ALL recognition after all.
– If Sam Kinison were still alive, he’d be doing an in your face number on the prosecution: “I just have one thing to say to the prosecuting lawyers in the Zimmerman case ……. Say IT….SAY IT…..INNOCENT!!!!
Can’t win in reality? No problem! Simply retreat into a dumb story where a picture of Zimmerman in a jail jumpsuit is called a lily white supremacist and wanna be cop from a gated community who hunts down a smiling 11 year old child with a skittles, calls him a “fuckin’ coon” and stalks him and ‘SHOOTS HIM DOWN IN THE BACK….LIKE A DAAAAAWWG’ as the police tell him to stay in his truck which of course makes his leaving the truck a crime. Then the police let him go because they hate blacks. Oh and HE HAD NO WOUNDS ON HIS HEAD IN THIS ONE PICTURE I SAW. CONSPIRACY!!! Fire can’t melt steel! George Bush is a shape changing reptillian hybrid who eats baby blood! Not that killing babies is a bad thing when Gosnell does it. RACISM!
I’m pleasantly surprised by the verdict, though it was of course the correct one given all the evidence I have seen. Zimmerman is, of course, a marked man, and likely will be the rest of his life, thanks to the media and race-baiters like Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama.
MSNBC. Lean into a lie. Hard.
Maybe this country isn’t fucked beyond ALL recognition after all.
Maybe, but the current holder of the highest office in the land thinks the nasty dead kid looks like he could be the child of Obazm, which, given the unprovoked assault, looks indeed like the man is right.
So, where does George Zimmerman go to get his life back?
Beause you and I know damn well he ain’t ever getting his reputation back.
– I think Zimmerman should consider moving to Russia, or following Snowden to where ever he ends up until we can get the fucking country back from the bastard Marxists.
Sharpton is an ass. You don’t get to bitch about justice after Tawana Brawley, Freddie’s Fashion Mart fire, and crown heights. Irony lightning? There should be more like an irony x-ray laser.
BBH, Peru, not Russia. Isn’t that where his people are?
still be hanging by a thread dude
Today is a good day for America.
Anyway, want to escape tyranny? You flee the US…
Fuck that is all I can say.
Roger that, Pablo.
All I meant was that the country isn’t completely unrecognizable, sdferr.
Although clearly, this isn’t the same country it was five years ago.
time to go up the prosecution chain of command and apply squid™ tar and feathers, no?
The fact that anyone mistakes Al Sharpton for a serious person worthy of consideration is prima facie evidence that this is no longer a serious nation.
Which reminds me, I have a plan to get all the illegal aliens out of the US.
All, and I mean all, white males move into Mexico. In five years, all the illegals will sneak back across the border ‘cuz of the economic advantages and law and order . Then we go home, and bang, no more need worrying about amnesty!
Yes, I gotcha Ernst, I just wanted to fill in the exceptional circumstances, i.e. it isn’t the usual situation to have a President who admits he identifies with a common criminal.
“Kathleen Kane”
next proggtard i think for squid™ tar and feathers
The wolves never like the sheepdogs. The smart wolves dislike the sheepdogs because they want to convince the sheep that they, the wolves, are the sheepdogs to keep them safe from the other wolves.
You might say that they’re the wolves standing between the sheep and the
mobpack.But don’t you dare ask them which way they’re facing. That would be speciesist.
Most honest thing he’s ever said.
I may not have chosen the right word to start that sentence.
” a President who admits he identifies with a common criminal ”
gitmo, f&f,solyndra???
I may not have chosen the right word to start that sentence.
heh. You were looking for “only”, perhaps?
For starters, he walks away from Obama and Co. Dude just learned a lesson the very hard way.
I’m getting too old to be throwing down with narco-trafficantes.
baracky be the criminal element. he and holder
Ernst, I didn’t say we become them, I’m implying fundamental transformation of Mexico…
be positive . put the bird up “right side”
Zimmerman’s brother is giving Piers a good run for his money.
put the bird up “right side”
Oh hells no, I’d sooner Hammel has got to go (lost to the SkankyJays 7 – 3 today, you see).
Twitter lynch mob threatens to kill George Zimmerman
Posted at 10:30 pm on July 13, 2013
And we want hispanics to hate blacks and/or democrats because that benefits us how exactly?
I only bring it up in the spirit of how you get there matters. I have no problem pointing out to minorites that the Democrats exploit the fact of their minority status, and therefore try to keep them in their present condition. Whatever that condition happens to be.
“Oh hells no, ”
how about those bucs?
I’m implying fundamental transformation of Mexico…
To paraphrase John Wayne, out
herethere,due processfundamental transformation is a bullet.how about those bucs?
I likee, to say plain. All (’79) is forgiven, for the time being.
“I only bring it up in the spirit of how you get there matters.”
i’m mulling a demonstration at kathy kane’s house in her whitopia in ne pa with “black and white” americans asking why she will not defend the 9 + 10 amends. of the us constitution?
Any thoughts on whether or not this Rachel Corey bitch has cost Rick Scott his job?
Because if it were up to me, she would.
how about ’71 or 2? i forget
“Any thoughts on whether or not this Rachel Corey bitch has cost Rick Scott his job? ”
it is like by by bushies for me
There’s an answer to that, but you won’t like it (nor should you).
rubio threw in with the loser gop
“There’s an answer to that, but you won’t like it (nor should you). ”
please explain. i don’t have the capabilities to do this. just trying to use the proggs tactics against them.
“There’s an answer to that, but you won’t like it (nor should you).”
i gave some thought to it: it is better for an individual to stand in front of kline’s house and call her out. black, white, white hispanic, gay, whatever. ask her about states 9-10th amendment rights?
As I (possibly incorrectly) understand it, the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine holds that the 14th amendment effectively rendered the 9th and 10th null and void.
MSNBC is blaming the prosecution.
The defense was unhelpful to the prosecution?
“To paraphrase John Wayne, out there, fundamental transformation is a bullet. ”
Well, I WASN’T implying singing Kim-Bi-Ya around the campfire and warm showers together*….
*Heartbreak Ridge
So am I, abeit for different reasons.
” the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine holds that the 14th amendment effectively rendered the 9th and 10th null and void. ”
to whom. “former slave holding states”? is the “supreme court” supreme? time to see what this constitution is really about? where is “marriage” in the us constitution?
The prosecution was not inclusive and should have painted Zimmerman as a Kluxer, because then people would have a better feeling about whatever outcome came about because you know the conversation was had.
I don’t think the former prosecutor understand that a courtroom is not an Oprah segment. Besides the prosecution team in court was all white so Racism.
Jeez
how can a “supreme court” decide something not listed in the us constitution? they make sh*t up no?
The Supreme Court has held in effect that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States[.] No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of Citizens of the United States; nor shall any State … deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” renders the 9th and 10th moot. The 9th amendment means you can go beyond what the Feds allow (e.g., you could let 12 year olds vote in State elections, even though the Feds won’t let 12 year olds vote in Federal elections), but equal protection means you can’t Not acknowledge “rights” acknowledged by the Feds. As for the 10th. the 14th means that there aren’t any powers not delegated to the U.S. by the 14th amendment to the Constitution, so there’s nothing to be reserved to either the states or the people.
As to marriage in the constitution, I’m guessing that sonofabitch legal sophist Kennedy would say that it’s in the Constitution under the X, “reserved to the people” as it were, and the Supreme Court’s juris prudence on the IX’s equal protection clause means that men have the same right to marry men as they have to marry women.
In other words, the IX and X only exist when it’s convenient to the federal government (or more exactly, to the Court) for them to exist. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of the intention of the framers.
Again, that’s my layman’s understanding based on two courses on Constitutional Law as part of a Political Science double major completed almost twenty years ago.
So, grains of salt —the size of the ones in your water softener— and all that.
blaming blamers blame it’s what they do everyone else pours themselves an adult beverage and raises their glass in a silent toast to Angela Corey’s and Pam Biondi’s humiliated fascist whore cunts what remain needy of a pounding injustice and the heady frisson of freedom-rape
XIV‘s equal protection clause, not the IX’s.
Damn latin numerals!
Mr. Ernst that was by far the leasterest pithy comment in the whole thread good work (e.g. it was not very pithy)
What the fuck is it with you and your near constant resort to sexual violence against women imagery?
I can be pithy or I can be educative (hopefully not too pedantic) or I can be sarcastic or caustic or scornful. I’m a multi-trick pony.
Unlike you.
“In other words, the IX and X only exist when it’s convenient to the federal government (or more exactly, to the Court) for them to exist. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of the intention of the framers. ”
that’s why”Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen G. Kane”
hey hey ‘ho ‘ho kathy has got to go. nice lawyer skills stupid bitch
i’m thinking a black lady speaking constitution stuff on a public street right in front of the kathy’s house w/cameras and audio. eff the commie scum.
i’m a be educative tomorrow
The downfall of Angela Corey…
I’m inclined to agree with you, but look at it from her perspective. Like I said the other day, it’s probably her (or her staffs) considered legal opinion that PA’s law runs afoul of Justice Kennedy, so it’s unlikely to survive judicial review. Fighting the ACLU in court is only going to cost the taxpayers a shit load of money to no good purpose (if only Rachel Corey’s office had that much foresight!), so why bother?
The fact that she happens to agree personally (we’re assuming) with the ACLU is just a bonus.
The reason to make the fight is the hope that you get a strong enough dissenting opinion that a future Supreme Court can someday use as the basis for reversing itself.
But the court doesn’t like to do that. Especially not when there’s a nominally conservative Chief Justice running things.
And by that, I mean the Court under both Rehnquist and Roberts has had far more respect for the Court’s past rulings than it did under Berger or Warren. That’s probably an unintended consequence of replacing judicial activists with justices who believe in judicial restraint.
Or more to the point, replacing living constitution activists with textualists instead of originalists.
Sorry if that’s too unpithy.
Whatever you say, Annie.
the night is young Mr. Ernst and Mr. Zimmerman, he is one step closer to freedom
the next step will involve moving to a different state
” Like I said the other day, it’s probably her (or her staffs) considered legal opinion that PA’s law runs afoul of Justice Kennedy, so it’s unlikely to survive judicial review.”
she is the hired peep. she give it up too soon. she be a fraud. you got the office fight or we be brandishing squid™ feathers and tar. should be interesting.
” considered legal opinion that PA’s law runs afoul of Justice Kennedy”
marriage is where in the us constitution exactly?
– The next step will involve moving to a different continent.
From the ‘Daily Mail’ article on the case:
“Benjamin Crump, the attorney for the Martin family, acknowledged the disappointment of Trayvon’s supporters, as heranked the teenager alongside civil rights heroes Medgar Evers and Emmett Till in the history of the fight for equal justice.”
This kind of hyperbole makes me want to vomit over the keyboard. Evers walked twelve miles to school to earn his high-school diploma and fought for his country in WWII. Martin was a thug life admirer with a juvie record; he wasn’t fit to shine Evers’ shoes.
” Justice Kennedy”
O! eff thems kennedy and all the irish losers like rooney. eff stealers
The other reason to make the fight is that the people of Pennsylvania enacted a law through their elected representatives and their entitled to a presumption of constitutionality.
But don’t expect the federal courts to give a shit about what the idiot voters of any one state happen to think.
– JuliaM – its all part of the “narrative”, and has nothing what-so-ever to do with justice or reality.
Ernst – I definitely understand the how you get there matters doctrine. I was looking at it in terms of taking a page from the opposition’s playbook and making them see that the democrat party is not the one they should be giving their allegiance to.
In short, to borrow from Jeff G (somewhat), we need to start controlling the narrative.
However, I do conceded that this was not a fully formed strategy. More of a “lets throw things against the wall and see if they stick” kind of brainstorming.
“how can a “supreme court” decide something not listed in the us constitution? they make sh*t up no?”
The induced that there must be implicit Penumbras (shadows cast by the text) and emanations(illuminating rays cast from the text) that must modify the meaning of the text for the text to have any consistent meaning at all. They claim that is is a system of externalities whereby assumptions must beget other assumptions if thought through. The text is like a fractal gradient that can be pored over in the hopes of finding links to things the text does not cover or loopholes to circumvent some effect explicitly covered by the text.
Thus you HAVE an absolute implicit right to an abortion because you have another implicit but absolute right to privacy (where matters of abortion and abortion only are concerned) but the 2nd amendment with its “shall not be infringed” language protects only a very narrow sliver of the right to bear arms, then possibly only for a well regulated militia as defined by gun control advocates, and THAT only imperfectly should the populace or their representatives or the regulatory and enforcement bureaucracy wish to ever ignore it in the best interest of the said population or just to frivolously pursue a cool fad.
In short if you can squint at it and see something and you are a judge then you get to tell people what it really does and really doesn’t say until you are eventually replaced by activist judges who disagree with you but are on the right side of history and are more useful to the revolution.
It’s fucking Calvin ball.
We are lucky that they did not base their rationalizations for ignoring the text on concepts of rigidity, astronomical convergences, crystal structures, botany, vibrations, endothermic chemistry, orbital momentums, or the critical vocabulary and style for review of pieces of art nouveau. Lights and shadows is easy.
The way to control the narrative is to demonstrate how the narrative is, to borrow from palaeomarus, “fucking Calvin ball”, not to replace the narrative with a “narrative” of our own.
That’s what I was trying to get at.
When confronted by the narrative, the thing to do, to take my turn borrowing from Jeff G., is to say “that’s a fucking lie,” and “you’re a fucking liar,” or maybe “you’re a lying fucker.”
It’s a possibility.
woot!
We were out celebrating our anniversary tonight … just got home and saw the “Not Guilty”
Though, whether or not Obama decides to double down and pursue Federal charges against Zimmerman remains to be seen.
Everything is in the Constitution, waiting to be discovered, by virtue of the IX amendment. The XIV amendment’s equal protection clause, together with the Supreme Court’s incorporation doctrine, means that once the Federal judiciary “discovers” it (whatever “it” happens to be). it’s binding on 50 states.
So if, like Brian, you want to look on the bright side, by not defending PA’s marriage law, only PA’s law goes down. If PA defended it, and the court struck it down, it’s possible (even probable) that the court’s decision would apply to every state that recognizes marriage traditionally.
I’d dearly love to watch some happless fed assert Trayvon Martin had a civil right to beat George Zimmerman to the point that Zimmerman feared for his life, and that Zimmerman interferred with that right by exercising his right to self defense.
The only reason for the Justice Department to go after Zimmerman would be that the political leadership deliberately and consciously desired to discredit the Department and the legal system by arguing just such an absurdity.
Which, come to think of it….
i thought calvinball was one word like sharknado and
I forgot the other one
skittles and tea!
food stampin large
but hark!
methinks a white hispanic doth approacheth
let us attend the discord what follows
We need a corollary to Hanlon’s Razor.
nobody’s that incompetent except by malice.
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
It’s certainly stupid but is it stupidity? Caprice, frivolity, absurdity, arrogance, habitual resort to autocratic ‘pulled from the ass’ grandiose wish-casting, formal cognitive dissolution, ironic art…um…pissing in a peon’s face to see if he’ll let you empty your whole bladder in confusion, or punch you right in the dick and start dragging you over towards an eight foot drop to a below street level dumpster creche with a ramp leading down to it…I think its something more like that.
Is there a fancy latin word for acting up like a demon with brain damage until someone finally smells the wuss gene in your blood, doesn’t want to put up with more of your shit, and slaps you down hard enough to turn your shameful cringe reflex back on and restore your basic humanity?
Pugno reddit moraliter ? Insperata iniuria reficit moralibus?
“I’m guessing that sonofabitch legal sophist Kennedy would say that it’s in the Constitution under the X, “reserved to the people” as it were”
And in that specific case, that sonafabitch legal sophist Kennedy would be one hundred percent correct. The Constitution has exactly two things to say about marriage laws: “jack” and “shit”.
“felicespedes”
DAY-UM
That’s gonna leave a crater.
Aftermath in progress? (This time without any ‘Deng Lei Di Yu Sang Tso Pu Lee’ type stuff)
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/zimmerman-protests-turn-violent-oakland/nYqFL/
More Aftermath of a different sort:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/zimmermans-brother-to-piers-morgan-george-will-be-looking-around-his-shoulder-for-the-rest-of-his-life/
And a bit of prologue from June:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/piers-grills-robert-zimmerman-you-actually-think-trayvon-was-going-to-beat-your-brother-to-death-with-bare-hands/
http://wgntv.com/2013/07/13/rev-jesse-jackson-dont-riot-over-george-zimmerman-verdict/
That means YOU TOO Hymie-town.
http://thegrio.com/2013/07/14/chicagoans-react-to-zimmerman-not-guilty-verdict/#
Jesse wants to stir the pot a little but frowns on riots. But still.
More on the Daley Plaza protest
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/14/trayvon-martin-supporters-in-chicago-protest-verdict-at-daley-plaza-photos-vine/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
Michael Moore apparently feels a movie comin’ on. Gotta get the word out!
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/13/michael-moore-trayvon-martin-had-right-to-do-anything-to-defend-himself/
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/13/bet-hes-pissed-trayvon-martin-supporters-waiting-to-hear-from-jamie-foxx/
Okay. If Jamie Foxx tweets ANYTHING about this then I’m sending a letter to Sony Pictures about why I am boycotting the next Amazing Spider-Man film. Seriously.
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/14/rapper-lupe-fiasco-black-blood-spills-in-the-streets-of-america-nightly-at-the-hands-of-other-blacks/
Is this something to be hopeful about? A crack in the suicide pact of outraged black identity?
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/13/its-ngga-season-marlon-wayans-tweets-epic-meltdown-about-fat-guck-zimmerman/
How can I boycott this guy? His movies are already unwatchable. I’ve been boycotting him just for being in the Dungeons and Dragons movie. Hell I’m boycotting Tom Baker for it too. And Jeremy irons. If you were in the Dungeons and Dragons movie then I don’t want to hear from you. Ever. Yeah, you too Thora Birch.
I’d be very surprised If he(Zimmerman) is alive a year from now.
Althouse is concerned that the expectation of rioting by the “Black community” might be racist.
Well, Ann. If past behavior is indicative of future performance it might be prudent to check your homeowners insurance.
The press did a test run to see if they could muscle the courts system. It turned out that they could.
The ‘stand your ground’ law got trampled.
But six jurors didn’t buy it and ultimately didn’t fall for the intimidation. They were still, in their hearts, true Americans who believed in the justice that the court and the local authorities and the DA were so willing to toss under the bus.
And yes, the bus was there. The Justice Department had it’s tendrils snaking about the background trial. This was melded into a quasi campaign issue last fall. BUT the radicalized mob did not win the day. The stupid cartoonish horse shit version of events where a tiny smiling eleven year old buy was shot in the back in a gated community by a racist monster who constantly harassed the cops and hated black people blew up. Sadly there are still bloated idiots trying to pass it around as gospel on twitter.
BUT the mob made its demands and threats and yet the bad case STILL led to an acquittal.
This time.
But DAMN we came close to the edge.
And Nakoula is still in jail for his youtube video that did but didn’t cause Benghazi.
WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA! A stupid, ignorant, piss soaked mob is being stirred up against you and the practice of law is becoming a mere fluid. Soon you will dangle at the merest nod of self appointed lords and the mob will howl like locusts and MSNBC will celebrate it. AWAKEN!
You’ve noticed that too, huh?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353322/dagger-heart-justice-mark-steyn/page/0/1
” In real justice systems, the state decides what crime has been committed and charges somebody with it. In the Zimmerman trial, the state’s “theory of the case” is that it has no theory of the case: might be murder, might be manslaughter, might be aggravated assault, might be a zillion other things, but it’s something. If you’re a juror, feel free to convict George Zimmerman of whatever floats your boat.
Nailing a guy on something, anything, is a time-honored American tradition: If you can’t get Al Capone on the Valentine’s Day massacre, get him on his taxes. ”
“Multiple charges tend, through sheer weight of numbers, to favor a result in which the jury convict on some and acquit on others and then tell themselves that they’ve reached a “moderate” “compromise” as befits the reasonable persons they assuredly are. It is, of course, not reasonable. Indeed, the notion of a “compromise” between conviction and acquittal is a dagger at the heart of justice.”
” In Sanford, the state’s second closing “argument” to the strange, shrunken semi-jury of strikingly unrepresentative peers — facts, shmacts, who really knows? vote with your hearts — brilliantly dispenses with the need for a “case” at all. “
But he is also a Crump & Parker financial asset which they are willing to go to any length, even the conviction and/or execution of an innocent man, to keep the money, power, and fame rolling in. And they are not alone in that consideration.
Wow. Without comments Althouse’s blog is hardly worth reading anymore. Dull as dry mud. Is she trying to detach from the Instapundit mains? If so why? Does she welcome a slide towards obscurity?
It’s a damn good sign.
Lupe Fiasco, who I don’t know at all, also says “Yeah gimme that anger…once again that rage…that misguided angst when you true enemy is your own complacency and cowardice.”
Lupe seems to have privately discovered or re-discovered the actual meaning of tragedy, and with it, the proper target to which to apply the concept. He’s also going to learn what it means to be alone.
Even at Breitbart comments get disappeared apparently.
In this piece I first posted that there was a slightly earlier piece which called Zimmerman “white” and it showed up for a while but now seems to be gone.
Then I attempted to correct this poster By showing that the drink was Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail which along with Skittles and Robotussin DM is the formula for the drug called “Lean“. and that comment went into moderation and then disappeared.
Nice “news” site ya got there now. Can’t have any little person fucking with their truth either.
A portion of the view of John Locke (Second Treatise, Chapter III, Secs. 17 -19, Of the State of War)
*** Sec. 17. And hence it is, that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power, does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life: for I have reason to conclude, that he who would get me into his power without my consent, would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for no body can desire to have me in his absolute power, unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom, i.e. make me a slave. To be free from such force is the only security of my preservation; and reason bids me look on him, as an enemy to my preservation, who would take away that freedom which is the fence to it; so that he who makes an attempt to enslave me, thereby puts himself into a state of war with me. He that, in the state of nature, would take away the freedom that belongs to any one in that state, must necessarily be supposed to have a foundation of all the rest; as he that in the state of society, would take away the freedom belonging to those of that society or commonwealth, must be supposed to design to take away from them every thing else, and so be looked on as in a state of war.
Sec. 18. This makes it lawful for a man to kill a thief, who has not in the least hurt him, nor declared any design upon his life, any farther than, by the use of force, so to get him in his power, as to take away his money, or what he pleases, from him; because using force, where he has no right, to get me into his power, let his pretence be what it will, I have no reason to suppose, that he, who would take away my liberty, would not, when he had me in his power, take away every thing else. And therefore it is lawful for me to treat him as one who has put himself into a state of war with me, i.e. kill him if I can; for to that hazard does he justly expose himself, whoever introduces a state of war, and is aggressor in it.
Sec. 19. And here we have the plain difference between the state of nature and the state of war, which however some men have confounded, are as far distant, as a state of peace, good will, mutual assistance and preservation, and a state of enmity, malice, violence and mutual destruction, are one from another. Men living together according to reason, without a common superior on earth, with authority to judge between them, is properly the state of nature. But force, or a declared design of force, upon the person of another, where there is no common superior on earth to appeal to for relief, is the state of war: and it is the want of such an appeal gives a man the right of war even against an aggressor, tho’ he be in society and a fellow subject. Thus a thief, whom I cannot harm, but by appeal to the law, for having stolen all that I am worth, I may kill, when he sets on me to rob me but of my horse or coat; because the law, which was made for my preservation, where it cannot interpose to secure my life from present force, which, if lost, is capable of no reparation, permits me my own defence, and the right of war, a liberty to kill the aggressor, because the aggressor allows not time to appeal to our common judge, nor the decision of the law, for remedy in a case where the mischief may be irreparable. Want of a common judge with authority, puts all men in a state of nature: force without right, upon a man’s person, makes a state of war, both where there is, and is not, a common judge. ***
Crips vs Bloods violence. Only the Bloods show here. Meet the Crips member. Very obviously a member of that gang.
“palaeomerus says July 14, 2013 at 7:03 am
Wow. Without comments Althouse’s blog is hardly worth reading anymore. Dull as dry mud. Is she trying to detach from the Instapundit mains? If so why? Does she welcome a slide towards obscurity?”
Yep. The comments were what “made it happen.” I won’t bother with it anymore.
Turns out he has readers that don’t adore her as a default position.
“Et averte dolorem vermis satis sapien.”
Even a flatworm is smart enough to avoid pain. (From Instapundit regarding a proposed solution for the recent trend of bureaucracy and litigiousness being used to squelch free speech)
Well her “thoughts I done thunked up today and a picture of some ratty ducks” format is about as much fun as watching an ice cube melting in a kitchen sink on wednesday night because the cat won’t play with me.
Althouse’s fit of pique reveals a petty soul. The childish “email your comments to my husband and he’ll decide if you’re worthy” was laughable forabout two minutes. Now it is just lame.
There’s something I think I observed which occurred during the trial which hasn’t been mentioned (or at least, I haven’t seen it mentioned yet), and which I’d like to attempt to put in print.
And it is this: recall the one moment when George Zimmerman could not maintain his calm composure and a genuine smile and laugh became his countenance? That was when his teacher told the slight joke on the witness stand that he would not wait to be killed before he would use deadly force to protect himself, remember?
So, here’s the thing I thought I saw — that Zimmerman laughed and smiled out of his love for that teacher. He couldn’t contain it, his love of that rational and loveable man Captain Carter. Zimmerman was for a split second unguarded, and his feeling escaped. Of course, he subdued it quickly, but nevertheless, there it was to see.
Love? Of Alexis Carter? Who also seemed to hold Zimmerman in high regard? But…but…but…that can’t be right!
The truth is that children and adults are the victims of beatings every day, but not everyone getting beaten up imagines that they’re going to be killed – and thus justifies killing the other person!
Good flippin lord, Pablo!! That actually was published in “Psychology Today”?
What political hackery…
That actually was published in “Psychology Today”?
Somehow or other I can’t find anything surprising about it. But then I long ago concluded such publications have little but a form of hackery on offer. Certainly they are not concerned with discovering truth since they are premised on the utter absence in the world of any such thing.
I hope George Zimmerman changes his name to Jose Rodriguez and moves to Texas or somewhere far away from race baiting liars like Gary Younge.
“Psychology Today” is written for laymen and is not a credible source of anything and may not be cited as a source. So there you are.
Psychology Today is about as reliable on psychology as Scientific “Two Lies in one Title!” American is on science in general.
In the light of the matter of the lynch party, so called (and only a little a stretch, though fortunately not a stretched neck), I wandered off to take another look at Don West’s opening knock-knock joke and happened accidentaly into this account at NEWSONE For Black America:
*** In perfect symmetry with the racist, flippant, insincere and insensitive rhetoric spewed by George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, his defense attorney, Don West, opened the closely watched trial with a knock knock joke.
Yes, a knock knock joke.
After telling the jury not to hold the comedy routine against Zimmerman if they felt it to be inappropriate, West laid on the cocktail party humor:
When the joke was met with silence, West urged the jury to lighten up.
“Nothing?” asked West, skeptically. “That’s funny.” ***
Now that’s funny.
Breaking News for Black America
I was wondering why Black America needed different news? Looking at their front page, sdferr, I’m kind of sorry I bothered.
Sorry to be late to respond SW: I went off to watch a bit of the Futures game.
Why Black America needed different news? They don’t, of course, but as this neo-neocon commenter Beverly points out with an extended quote of Booker T. Washington’s observation (I make here in brief) “There’s gold in themthar hills!”
I thought Don West’s knock-knock joke was pretty funny.
I’ll denounce myself.
I suppose everyone has to make a living, sdferr. I would rather tell people I was a crack whore than have them know I peddled that trash.
Kennedy didn’t leave it at that though, did he? That’s what makes him a sophist.
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