The triumphal yet shrill bleating from the Left over the FDA’s approval of Plan-B one-step for over-the-counter purchase with no age restriction is as depressing as it is linguistically and morally incoherent. A fine example of such predictable piffle is Cathleen London’s piece Plan B for all girls — science finally trumps politics and emotion
This decision allows science to trump politics and emotion.
Plan B One step is a single dose of levonorgestrel, a hormone used in oral contraceptive pills (OCPs), that when taken within 3 days of unprotected sexual activity is effective in reducing the chance of pregnancy.
It works in a similar matter to oral contraceptives that are taken daily (though less effective than regular use of OCPs).
It is NOT an abortifacient. (sic)
London takes the materialistic view of humanity .. “science” as the substitute for ethics, principles and morality. Even as science, itself, is only a process in understanding how the world works and has nothing to say about why or whether something is good or evil, London posits that because Plan-B works, any ethical or moral implications by allowing fifth graders unfettered access to it is unworthy of discussion.
And London gets there by lying about Plan-B not being an abortifacient. It works how she describes as preventing ovulation, but that is only one way in which it works —
If a woman takes Plan B after she already has ovulated for the month, the hormones in the emergency contraception pills will make a fertilized egg unable to attach to the wall of her uterus. Without this action, the resulting embryo, if it exists, will be expelled during menstruation without the woman ever knowing.
Ironically, just as we’ve seen during testimony in the Gosnell trial or from abortionist LeRoy Carhart’s description of an unborn baby as “meat in a crock pot”, London feels it necessary to lie about the science of what is taking place in order to convince the Patriarchal masses that science triumphs!
And just in case you Victorian blue-noses, who question the right of little girls who still play with Barbies or My Little Ponies to having sex behind the swings in the playground, London calls out what you are really engaged in
If a young girl is sexually active, whether by choice or not, she should not be denied reproductive rights. She should be allowed to make timely reproductive decisions about her own body within the dictates of her religious and moral codes.
To deny young adolescents access to medically necessary and proven care is essentially reproductive slavery.
On a related note, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius makes clear that The State will not tolerate your refusal to hand over your infants and toddlers.
Children who don’t get a pre-kindergarten education, ideally from birth to age 5, might fall behind and “may as well drop out” by third grade, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday at an event to garner support for President Barack Obama’s $75-billion proposal to increase pre-school enrollment across the country. […]
“We’ve got to make sure that kids by the time they hit kindergarten aren’t so far behind that they don’t ever catch up, and by the third grade they may as well drop out because they’re never going to catch up,” Sebelius said. “That’s the snapshot that we have today.”
President Obama put out a “comprehensive plan” in his State of the Union speech, she said, “a birth-through-5 [plan], recognizing that you can’t just start with 4-year-olds, but they’re very important, you have to really look at infants and toddlers, you have to do early interventions so parents can be the best and first teacher. You have to have a way that whatever place a parent chooses for their child in an out-of-home placement has high quality.”
Life of Julia, indeed.
So is Cathleen London claiming the age of consent begins at menstruation?
I think her screed tells us more about her, and her twisted sense of morality, than it does about contraceptives and abortifacients.
Pretty soon they will have devices implanted in women that will begin the indoctrination process in the womb.
You cannot start too early.
Didn’t Hitler invent Kindergarten to start the indoctrination process early?
They aren’t even hiding their fascism any more, which is not news to anyone here.
it’s a good thing that Plan B is available it could help prevent a lot of abortions plus prevent a lot of teen pregnancies
the less we have government mediating our choices the better
nobody has to take it what doesn’t want to
freedom should be the default position, as silly as that sounds in a land founded upon on the virtuous principles of food stamps surveillance and subservient media
but even in our fascist piggy whoreslut of a country the less we have government mediating our choices the better
Can the young lady buy cigarettes while she’s pciking up her Plan B abortifacient? Or is that “right to control her body” different?
exactly Mr. Thorn decisions like this form the basis for compelling arguments for government to fuck off in a panoply of areas where it has overstepped
which, yay
not that Team Lila Rose has the sense god gave a grapenut to realize this
Can she pick up a 12 pack and pint of vodka? Carton of cigarettes, a couple cans of Skol? How about a few Bic lighters and some Robotussin? How about rent a few X-rated DVDs? Go to a bar and toss back a few cold ones? Apply for a job as a bar back?
I say let’s abolish all of those pesky judge-y child labor laws and put the little bitches to work!
so, hf, if Gov rescinds all restrictions on booze, cigs, drugs, etc would you have any objection if businesses themselves set up standards on age limits?
Or would you have the Gov come in make ’em sell it?
You know, since all young girls are is a walking vagina to this administration and more so to themselves and their peers, why do they need to go to school? Who needs math when you’ve got a pimp to handle all those pesky money details.
if Gov rescinds all restrictions on booze, cigs, drugs, etc
I don’t think that’s very likely Mrs. Click, really
I think it’s a rather fanciful idea actually
um. The second two lines weren’t supposed to be italicky.
I think I screwed up my html when I was deletering that annoying text what gets appended when you paste stuff you copy from upthread.
This issue is cut from the same pie, it seems to me, as the Kate Hunt one [see Stacy McCain’s coverage here], where one of the goals of the activists groups egging the [weird] Hunt Family on is to lower the Age Of Consent.
hf
So you won’t answer the question. Your “libertarian” approach to Plan B is a lie.
How surprising.
. . .to lower the Age Of Consent.
Bob, sounds like a boon to perverts everywhere.
if Gov rescinds all restrictions on booze, cigs, drugs, etc would you have any objection if businesses themselves set up standards on age limits?
i wouldn’t have any objection if individual states set up standards on age limits I think is how I would answer this silly question
But you want a federal gay marriage ruling? You are inconsistent, son.
Positive Rights for everyone!!!
Means no rights for anyone, just licenses from many DMVs. If you meet the approved standards for the license.
federal gay marriage ruling?
I never said we need that
states are doing just fine
i think our congresswhores need to repeal doma
or at least have another vote on it so bigot Team R can sparkle like a little hatey diamond
hf
Since you’ve already revealed your bad faith in this thread, go have some fun hyperventilating over If Sarah Palin had become President.
if there’s no medical reason for a drug not to be over the counter then they should be available over the counter
nannystates are nice but freedom is better
wow we sure dodged a bullet huh darleen
so bigot Team R
Oh so people who know that marriage is, by all definition, male/female are now bigots.
:::sigh:::
you are a one-trick picachu
A lying one-trick picachu.
they should be available over the counter
I can buy booze OTC and cigs, too. Should my 10 y/o grandsons?
Two hardankles get ghey married in CA or NY, let ’em keep that condition inside those borders. Perfect. After all, not all states accept my state carry permit. Why should my state accept another state’s alternative reality permit?
we should all get together and have spare ribs
Oh so people who know that marriage is, by all definition, male/female are now bigots.
it still can’t hurt to have another vote re-affirming Team R’s fervent support for doma darleen
or… could it?
hmmm
i’m very good at buying spare ribs you know if you’ve never had my spare ribs you haven’t tasted heaven
you have to do early interventions so parents can be the best and first teacher
his whore mother abandoned him and daddy soros made him president
he’s just making this shit up out of his head
One-trick hamster.
Photo evidence of the snake in my garden, Thamnophis elegans, Western terrestrial garden snake. He’s about 1ft long.
He froze mid-slither as I traipsed around, taking photos. So I took a photo of him.
He eats slugs and bugs. He’s very welcome in my yard.
Amongst the herbs, I see? Healthy rosemary and is that thyme that’s flowering?
Hmm, we could use one of those garden snakes. Although, in our yard, the poor thing would probably get too fat to slither.
I’ll find toads under the dogs outdoor water bowl now and again. I move them into the garden and they get fat and sassy eating moths and other beasties. They show their gratitude by sending up a chorus of toad music at night.
If McCain had gotten elected at least we wouldn’t have a senile idiot for VP. There’s that, at least.
He’s cute, dicentra. Here in Florida the squirrels would have him for breakfast.
So, you people encourage animals to murder each other. I’m not surprised.
The left: Hyperventilates about big business selling products screwing with our and our kids’ body chemistry. Thinks selling Plan B OTC to minors is just ducky.
Amongst the herbs, I see? Healthy rosemary and is that thyme that’s flowering?
It looks like rosemary, but its Aethionema schistosum, blooms spent, and the broader leaves are an oriental lily.
organized crime news
link
It’s like my comments are only visible to me. I guess that’s probably better for everyone.
I thought I heard something, but I guess I didn’t.
Anyone seen Cranky lately?
actually cranky, I thought murder among the real animals is what our better educators encourage (scroll down to last pic)
14 Year-Old Boy May Face Year in Jail for Wearing NRA T-Shirt to School (Video)
That tears it: there’s definitely a coordinated effort to criminalize pro-2A sentiment. It’s not just something in the NEA water.
OMG OMG OMG!
Def Leppard is now available for digital download!
Srsly! I had a few “tribute” versions but they sucked.
Submitted without comment.
the age of the a$$holes
Open borders mob descends on home of Kansas Secretary of State
Not News at AP: Connecticut Legislative District Goes GOP For First Time in 40 Years to a Second Amendment Defender
So, I guess that this means:
Girls rule,
Boys drool,
Fuck the rules.
Sorry, that’s all I got tonight.
Hey, “wise guy” Vinnie Terranova is one of us.
Cool.
I tried to rewatch the series, but I couldn’t deal with the stereotypical mafioso banter. Same thing sank my rewatching of Due South: the Chicago cop was Just Too Street. (I reckon the same fate will befall Justified, with its Just Too Hillbilly dialog.)
But at the time, Wiseguy was an amazing series, daring to extend the story arc throughout the entire season. Too bad for Ken Wahl that he hurt his back so badly he had to stop.
So in general i’m going to have to side with the ayes and be ok with doing away with age restrictions on Plan B. I just don’t see an upside in the federal government prohibiting them. And i see plenty of down side if they do age restrict.
Meanwhile these folks sound pretty good. Never heard of them before.
And i see plenty of down side if they do age restrict.
I don’t. Will you explain?
Nice restatement of the technocratic endeavor: “This decision allows science to trump politics and emotion.”
What trumps politics in a representative republic? Well, as a citizen, I’d offer an opinion but that’d be more of those dirty politics that’ve done been trumped. As a subject, I’ll maybe just grumble under my breath for awhile.
that’ve=what’ve
Sure.
Pregnancy or abortion at < 17.
Why? Why the punishment?
You’re leading with your chin by using “punishment” in this context, BT. That was Obama’s usage.
I’m just stating my opinion. Punishment is not the wrong term just because Obama used it.
I suggest not having sex as a solution to that issue. However, I guess that makes me evil, because we live in a “if it feels good, do it,” society.
I liked “Wiseguy” too, Di. I think I saw all of them. I was disappointed when it ended.
I’m not saying it is the wrong term because Obama used it. I’m saying that you’re leading with your chin with that word choice.
Yes Cranky, Abstinence was an option, but that ship already sailed. Contraceptives were an option, but that ship sailed too. Plan B is one last option before the shit gets real serious.
And I’m not sure it is my place nor my business to tell that girl no.
Right. It’s the wrong term because it’s the wrong term. The word you’re looking for is “consequences.”
bh, i don’t understand your meaning, but i will try not to use the word in the thread.
cranky, honestly, I don’t get these people. The very same people that would hang an 18 year old boy for having sex with a 14 year old girl see nothing wrong with the same 14 year old having access to a “morning after” pill.
Suppose you’re her parent. Now is it your business? How about the fucking? Is that your business?
Consequences would be first person, punishment would be third person, in this case i’m pretty sure we are all third person.
Sorry bh.
Abstinence was an option? Was?
Of all the things that can happen due to being sexually promiscuous, pregnancy is certainly far from the worst.
Sexual abstinence is the only known method of preventing STD’s. Period.
Leading with your chin just means starting with an easy opening for others to seize upon, BT.
Sometimes the best parents fail at preemptive counseling.
Now what?
That’s all I meant. I wasn’t sure that you were aware that Obama had used a similar framing and it was sure to be mentioned at some point.
So, parents fail at parenting, got it. So, through that failure, they lose their parenting rights? The parents shouldn’t be informed that their under age daughter has been having sex?
Blake, i think in this case of our 16 year old girl, abstinence as a plan was discarded. And i don’t know if our model is sexually promiscuous, she could be the victim of a roofy.
Do we know that will be the case? The FDA just approves the sale, with or without conditions. I would hope the states would look at the issue and tailor their laws to their constituencies.
An answer to the question would be pretty sweet. If the answer is yes, which seems correct to me, the federal government has just made it that much easier for underage girls to conceal sexual activity from their parents.
Good or bad?
I don’t see how lifting the restriction in any way interferes with the relationship of parent to child. Either they had a truthful give and take relationship prior to the decision of whether Plan B is the best option or they didn’t.
BT, sure, parents will be informed, just like they are informed when their underage daughter has an abortion.
If you’ve got a daughter hanging around with people using roofies, then you’ve got more problems than just teenage pregnancy.
I notice you’re ignoring the STD issue, which is far more serious than getting pregnant. Abstinence is the only 100% foolproof way to avoid getting an STD. Being a parent means keeping a close eye on your kids and not abdicating your responsibilities. Somehow, even as a single parent, I managed to keep a really close eye on my two active teenage daughters. Of course, it also meant I had no life beyond them, but, that’s just the way things were.
I didn’t allow my daughters to run around at all hours. I damn well knew when and where my daughters were. It wore me out, but that’s the hand I was dealt.
The ages are an issue here. There is no way around it.
What we’d discuss and/or argue about involving a 17 year old we’d be primed to kill over with a younger girl.
This issue doesn’t map 1 to 1 as a debate topic in terms of how we’ll as people react viscerally in our views of justice. In real life you’re motivated to murder people about this sort of thing.
Hence, law.
Blake, happy fathers day.
But I don’t think the debate is over parenting skills or the lives of teenage girls and boys in a peer pressured world.
It is whether the fda is making the right decision of allowing the option of a reprieve to a 16 year old who at this particular moment has 72 hours to decide which fork in the road her life will take with or without her parents counsel.
The fda with their decision will say the option is safe.
How does everyone feel about the fact that the easy availability of this pill will likely result in an increase in sexual activity among underage girls, since the potential consequences of the act are so easily dispensed with? Is that a bad thing, a good thing, or completely neutral?
Now what?
Bring the child to term, and let a desperate-to-be-parents couple raise him or her.
Pregnancy is not a disease; embryos and fetuses are not parasites. The way we think about our own offspring at its most vulnerable stage says a lot about us.
The severing of sex from marriage and reproduction has not done anyone any favors except for those who traffic in birth control and abortion.
Not to mention those who traffic in creating and exploiting victim groups for financial and political gain.
It’s too bad that science has trumped politics because I think these are relevant questions:
Pablo: Good or bad?
cranky: Is that a bad thing, a good thing, or completely neutral?
We do get to ask these questions. They’re good questions.
I don’t see how lifting the restriction in any way interferes with the relationship of parent to child.
If she can surreptitiously end her pregnancy as easily as scoring a tab of aspirin, then she can more easily conceal her stupid behavior. If there are hurdles to jump, such as going to a doctor’s office to get a prescription, it might raise the parents antennae.
Our reproductive powers aren’t playthings, as much as our popular culture would like you to think. Perhaps you should review Brave New World? People were kept in a sex-crazed haze to stop them from contemplating their slavery.
You can’t possibly have a daughter.
I don’t, either, and yet I get it. Do you think that teens impregnating one another is OK?
Because if it’s not OK, we adults shouldn’t be enabling it.
allowing the option of a reprieve to a 16 year old who at this particular moment has 72 hours to decide which fork in the road her life will take with or without her parents counsel.
Precious few sixteen-year-old girls have the maturity or perspicacity to make a good decision such as that. Even I, good girl that I was, was a total moron at that age. Only the most psycho parents wouldn’t be of vital assistance to her at this juncture.
As for the term “reprieve,” shielding people (especially the young) from the consequences of their consequential behavior is about the worst thing you can do to them.
Like I said: if she’s pregnant, carry the child to term and put it up for adoption. I don’t think anyone regrets giving birth instead of aborting, though I suspect plenty regret the opposite decision.
How does everyone feel about the fact that the easy availability of this pill will
likelyresult in an increase in sexual activityFTFY.
Look at what happened with the introduction of The Pill.
Nuff said.
And those who enjoy fucking underage girls.
Yes they are.
Hopefully the fda’s decision doesn’t lead astray kids of yours in this age group. Make it easier for them to sneak around and live a lie. Hopefully their roots are strong. And if that is the case Plan B should not be an issue.
Math is still hard, isn’t it, Science Barbie.
Shoulda gone to sexy engineer school.
The severing of sex from marriage and reproduction has not done anyone any favors except for those who traffic in birth control and abortion.
And those who enjoy fucking underage girls.
I think the fertility clinics have done quite well off of the on the pill from 14 to 34 crowd and now I ‘m having trouble concieving crowd as well Pablo.
Who stole my blockquotes?!?!
FWIW, that was my reaction to a quote in the post, BT. This technocratic/bureaucratic notion that something exists in our system above politics other than very bad things offends me. You didn’t express any such notion though.
What you’re saying I disagree with in most ways but you’re not making anything like that odious argument.
One would certainly like to hope. But the fact is, there’s that much more temptation/license/moral confusion in the world. The mere fact of the existence of a new option creats new alternatives that didn’t previously, or otherwise wouldn’t exist.
I expect the biggest beneficiary. at least in the long run, is going to be a traditional (i.e. pre-modern) culture comfortable with seeing child-brides married off to older men.
Fortunately for America, it’s not like we have to worry about anything like that though.
[I’m using “politics” in the old school sense here, btw. Not the new school version that’s now become a simple pejorative.]
BT
Hopefully the fda’s decision doesn’t lead astray kids of yours in this age group. Make it easier for them to sneak around and live a lie. Hopefully their roots are strong. And if that is the case Plan B should not be an issue.
Know what happens when communities ignore graffiti?
You can give your kids strong roots, have a great relationship with them, but they are still going to be out there on their own for many more hours of the day.
And having the community working against you instead of supporting you is going to make it that much harder.
Sorry Di that i missed this. No I have a son who is now 32. Which is 29 more years than the marriage lasted.
I have a niece whose son is now entering college.
Decisions made.
Do I think that teens impregnating one another is OK? Not if they are married or plan on marrying.
But I don’t see where i am enabling them to do so, any more than i am responsible for contraceptives, condoms, or pulling out is enabling them.
Not if should be not unless
Defining deviancy down by acquiescing to the new community standard —which, by the way, was imposed upon the community, rather than adopted by it— perhaps?
e.g. I’m not particularly happy about the Boy Scouts of America ending their version of don’t ask, don’t tell and adopting, a gay is ok (as long as you’re under 18 – gay adults aren’t allowed to tell). It’s incoherent and ultimately unsupportable. But at least the membership got to vote on it.
BT
There are all manner of activities and behaviors that are just Not.A.Good.Idea for minors that communities restrict by age. Drinking, smoking, buying pr0n, getting tattoos, and fucking.
The same people who are pushing Plan B for fifth graders are the same people who do everything in their power to also encourage underage sex … to “empower” “sex positive” attitudes, make virginity a disease and “demystify” sex so its less special then a pedicure.
It’s delivering up young girls to reinforce a culture where they are reduced to their sex bits and their parents — if unhip, sex-shamers — are their worst enemies.
It is a feature, not a bug, of a movement to make parents little more than incubators for The State that will be the child’s God/Parent/Spouse.
I don’t see where OTC plan B is imposing anything.
OTC plan B was imposed by the FDA, is all I meant, without regard for whether or not it’s a good idea to let children whom we don’t allow to drink, or use tobacco, or sign contracts (for the most part), or even drive (in most states) have ready access to OTC birth control. The pill pill isn’t OTC, not even for women, but we’re cool with adolescent girlss taking the super pill every other weekend and after school sporting events? Because some scientists and bureaucrats in D.C. said so?
To put some perspective on it, after, what? Thirty? Forty? years of sex education in public schools, we need a Plan B? Why? All that education about sex must not be working.
My understanding is the FDA is fast tracking universal availability because they have been ordered to do just that by Judge Edward R. Korman of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York. I believe he was appointed by Reagan.
I think the reason was that the Judge thought the administration was allowing politics to override science.
That just makes it worse when a profession Decider Decides for us roobs.
allowing politics to override science.
Whatever the hell that means.
Science, as in the scientific method and the results thereof, is amoral. The fact that such a pill has been created does not and cannot speak to the issue of whether it’s a good idea to have created it or whether it ought to be distributed.
Just as the explosion in Big Data technology doesn’t give license to the NSA to use it whenever they feel like it.
These same leftists who complain about “politics overriding science” have in fact spent their entire lives making sure that politics overrides every. Damned. Thing.
Of course, they use the term “politics” only to describe what their opponents do. Their motives are Pure and Righteous.
Is that what the FDA is supposed to do?
Backing track.
Politics being that which makes Obama look bad?
You’d think so. But you seem to have been arguing against that very premise.
Allowing politics and science (as bedfellows) to override centuries of religious beliefs, and by mocking the moral coda that religious practice sometimes instills, undermine forever the notion that we might owe allegiance to any authority save Government and/or Science.
Government and Science have concluded that there’s no God, no souls in our bodies, no purpose to our lives other than the immediacy of our day-to-day needs (supplied by Government). After reaching that conclusion, Plan B and other population controls methods just make sense.
We, subjects of Government and Science, are now subject to sensible animal husbandry practices.
The few remaining who disagree, clingers, will be overridden. Why should Government care about those bitter folk? After all, their kids will be so much more malleable, after a proper public education.
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“Do I think that teens impregnating one another is OK? Not if they are married or plan on marrying. But I don’t see where i am enabling them to do so, any more than i am responsible for contraceptives, condoms, or pulling out is enabling them.”
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“My understanding is the FDA is fast tracking universal availability because they have been ordered to do just that by Judge Edward R. Korman of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York.”
That was my impression as well.
Both the FDA and the Obama administration were opposed to this.
http://floppingaces.net/2013/06/16/sunday-funnies-243/
The cartoons almost draw themselves.
They were against it before they were for it. If they opposed this with a fervor similar to their defense of their right to impose violations of faith on employers or some such, I’d be more convinced as to their principles here.
Opposition in principle is for suckers. Opposition in anti-principle is for slick political operators, who, because they are slick political operators deserve to decide the public morals for the public, who are suckers.
Well, well. Looks who’s got the hairy feet now.
you be flippin the bird
“I believe, and my faith tells me that marriage is between a man and a woman and by the way I totally support same sex marriage, unlike those hatey haters who need to stop living in the Middle Ages!”
Well, well. Looks who’s got the hairy feet now.
But don’t call the spokesman for this regime a liar.
you be flippin the bird
I heard from a little bird Alef that he heard from the flippin’ bird Taw that Taw had decided to remain upside down for a time in protest of Buck’s inability to manage the bullpen in the seventh (come what may, win or lose, the protest was on). Then, said Alef, recounting what Taw told him, once upside down, Taw came to realize that since the whole freakin’ world is upside down things appeared in a more coherent form to him, so he figured he’d just stay thataway awhile — for the relief it afforded.
allowing politics to override science.
Really? How do you ascertain that the judge’s decision was not politics? Only Plan-B has been approved by this judge for OTC, not its generic equivalents.
You want “science” as the final arbitrator of what’s “good”? Well, then Obamacare & Bloomberg should make you happy when it uses science to regulate sodas, fried & charcoal grilled foods, alcohol, your BMI, your daily exercise quota, how many cars, if any, you are allowed to own …
for your own scientific good, of course!
In the upsided-down world, The Hill wants the everyone to know what’s important, so they put what’s important at the beginning of the articles they write (it is not important, for instance, that the world understand that The Hill cannot see the nose leading its own face):
See? “Found little” is important.
Found perfect congruence with statements made right out in the open by the President himself, over the course of seven years now, that’s not important.
This is how the world looks when upsided-down.
Better. See?
Helpful things rise to the fore. Unhelpful things recede to immateriality.
Taw should be pleased that the Crimson Jihad has forgotten how to hit.
But not how to lie about foul tips.
Of course Taw hastens to add that Blue only follows his instincts when he takes the word of the hitter as to that. And is certain Blue would do the same for any self-assertive bird.
Haven’t you heard? There’s a Conservative Republican in the Cincinnati office who swears that The Messiah had nothing whatsoever to do with this perfidy!
Ipso facto, QED and done. Racist.
“There’s a Conservative Republican in the Cincinnati office who swears that The Messiah had nothing whatsoever to do with this perfidy!”
That’s another helpful thing! Which, in order to be more helpful yet must be diligently promulgated, that it may fall gleaming from every thoughtful lip henceforth, a jewel for to adorn the needy!
baracky in yo face
AT&T to Load iPhones With Emergency Alerts From Obama – That You Can’t Switch Off
How to fledge:
1) backwards, without really trying
2) forwards, looking suave by comparison
&
3) “Did someone order
pizzastarling?”According to the Times article i linked:
“In April, Judge Korman once again ordered the government to make all morning-after pills available without a prescription and without any sales restrictions.”
I know others have touched on the truism that teens shouldn’t be sexually active while others are on the side of meh, they’re going to do it anyway. This is any easy out. Pregnancy is only one of the undesired outcomes of unprotected sex with multiple partners (hey, who are we to judge?). I have mentioned this a time or two, but parents and the schools need to really crack down on the sex ed. I mean, they should show films to the kids like the films they show soldiers in basic training that show horrible, disgusting pictures of real people whose genitals are all but ready to fall off from horrible disease. There is a drug-resistant strain of gonorrhea making the rounds. Syphilis is making a comeback. HPV is everywhere.
Being the proactive and realistic mom that I am, I have regularly reminded my boys about the consequences of teen aged lust. No condoms aren’t going to keep you safe nor keep your girl from getting knocked up, so until they are off at college or otherwise on their own I read their email, monitor their Facebook friends and scroll through their phones. Draconian? Too bad. I ain’t raisin’ no babies.
The only sexually mature females around here have udders and wooly fleeces. I’m pretty sure my boys will escape unscathed until college and the big city beckons. There are some advantages to living in the arse end of beyond.
Hear, hear.
“some advantages ”
Read that as “many”. So, you got that going for you.
2B #32. sheesh.
– So there you go, and it;s “different” than when Boooooosh was doing it.
– The most transparent fucking administration EVAH!.
someones had a talking to
Update Rep. Nadler in a statement to BuzzFeed says: “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant.”
Jerry Nadler is still fat between the ears, I see.
Obama does not feel Americans’ privacy violated
Really. I don’t care how he “feels”. I THINK the NSA is violating my privacy and that of my fellow citizens.
cc: NSA
Just the fact that the letters “NSA” appear together in your post is enough for the NSA to find it.
I put it in twice so they wouldn’t miss it.
That was kind of you.
“Well, then Obamacare & Bloomberg should make you happy when it uses science to regulate sodas, fried & charcoal grilled foods, alcohol, your BMI, your daily exercise quota, how many cars, if any, you are allowed to own …”
You’re conflating removal of regulations (the Plan B thing) with addition of regulations (the other stuff).
Just as with gay marriage, it’s starting to look like many here are all for federal government meddling when it matches your personal beliefs. Which differs from the “other side” how, exactly?
To be quite clear: I believe that the Federal government is limited to the powers explicitly granted to it by the Constitution.
Regulation of pharmaceuticals isn’t in there. Abortion isn’t in there. Marriage laws aren’t in there.
States may be allowed to regulate those things. Not the feds.
I’d be willing to stretch the point to allow an FDA that said stuff like “Hey, we think this shit is dangerous; here’s why…” but even there I’d rather see it funded by the states, either individually or as a consortium.
So you don’t thing the Federal government should be teaching our daughters about the joys of anal sex and homosexuality? I concur.
If under Roe v Wade abortion is a federally protected privacy then how can states make their own choices as to whether or not Plan B is allowable in that state?
I’m sympathetic to the argument — let the states handle this — but isn’t that a non-option currently?
Gay marriage does follow a similar pattern. If the one side gets a federal judge to rule that a new form of marriage in any state must be accepted in the others then it’s hard to advise the other side that they should only endeavor to pass laws that will immediately be ruled void.
All of this only works if we have an actual federalist system. If we don’t, one side wins on all these issues and the other side loses all of them.
That’s the plan, bh.
All of this only works if we have an actual federalist system.
– We have one, the question is, will the electorate stand by as the Marxo-Socialist cult overthrows same with rogue Fed unlawful laws?
I’d be willing to stretch the point to allow an FDA that said stuff like “Hey, we think this shit is dangerous; here’s why…” but even there I’d rather see it funded by the states, either individually or as a consortium.
Given that there’s a need for an impartial judge to rule on the dangerousness of new meds, the best kind of judge is the kind that suffers when it’s wrong. Government agencies — state or federal — never do.
Underwriter’s Laboratories tests electrical devices to make sure they don’t set things ablaze. Insurers could therefore say: unless you wire up in a way that UL approves, we’re not insuring you.
Ergo, the companies that insure pharmaceuticals against malpractice should be the ones that verify the safety of meds.
Dicentra, I’m waiting for the lawsuit(s) when some 12 or 14 year old takes three or four of the Plan B tablets using the reasoning of an adolescent that if one is good, more is better. The unwanted pregnancy may not be the only one whose dreams die that day.
Judges need to stay far away from medical decision making, unless they are also medical doctors who specialize in the area being ruled on. Not doing so leads to sloppy/sentimental decision making such as we just saw with the young lung transplant patient. You heard it here first: that ruling is going to cause a cascade effect like nothing we’ve ever seen.
Which is fine by me. And if they rule that Plan B Pharmaceuticals are safe for those under 17, is that fine by you?
Pablo: “So you don’t thing the Federal government should be teaching our daughters about the joys of anal sex and homosexuality?”
Nope. With certain constitutionally-allowed exceptions (e.g., military training) I don’t think the federal government should be teaching them anything.
bh: “If under Roe v Wade abortion is a federally protected privacy…”
I think Roe v. Wade was right up there with the Dred Scott case when it comes to federal government jugheadery.
dicentra: “Ergo, the companies that insure pharmaceuticals against malpractice should be the ones that verify the safety of meds”
Works for me, and I wouldn’t have a problem with the states requiring proof of insurance (which is where I part ways with most of the libertarians, I think).
“Which is fine by me. And if they rule that Plan B Pharmaceuticals are safe for those under 17, is that fine by you?”
People are allowed to do a lot of things that aren’t “fine by me”.
Sorry, that sounds snarkier than I intended.
I’d personally be okay with requiring parental consent for drugs and medical procedures, but again think that should be up to the state governments.
The Constitution has jack shit to say about medicine.
Jerry Pournelle’s ideal role for the FDA is something like “determining that any snake oil sold in interstate commerce contains actual oil made from snakes”.
Obama State Dept Accused of Covering Up Another Sex Scandal
proggtardia news
‘Stockholm rioters could be a labour asset’
I’m late to this party, but if the media is lying about how this stuff works, its a huge conspiracy, as the current research all seems to point to prevention of ovulation.
Furthermore, failure to implant seems to occur in about 50% of cases of fertilization.
I try to be as staunch on this issue as anyone, but I just can’t equate these kinds of pills with the actions of a Kermit Gosnell, particularly when all the current literature denies this mechanism of action.
Plan B is what you do when Plan A fails sheesh everybody knows that
cultural literacy hello
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I have a feeling that my use of “politics” wasn’t understood as meant.
Serr8d’s comment? That’s politics. Same with Bob’s. It’s the very thing I’m talking about.
To use politics as a simple pejorative is a choice.
What else would we call citizens speaking their mind in a public forum?
There’s a word for this: politics.
The notion that politics can’t involve citizens informed by their religious beliefs is practically the definition of a false dilemma.