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David Sirota of Salon on Boston Bomber: I SEE WHITE MEN!!! [Darleen Click]

Is there any depth of indecency that the Left will not plumb?

In those awful episodes, a religious or ethnic minority group lacking such privilege would likely be collectively slandered and/or targeted with surveillance or profiling (or worse) if some of its individuals comprised most of the mass shooters. However, white male privilege means white men are not collectively denigrated/targeted for those shootings — even though most come at the hands of white dudes.

Likewise, in the context of terrorist attacks, such privilege means white non-Islamic terrorists are typically portrayed not as representative of whole groups or ideologies, but as “lone wolf” threats to be dealt with as isolated law enforcement matters.

Geez, I guess David missed the whole Nidal Hasan “lone wolf” thing, a “soldier of Allah” who slaughtered 13 people while screaming Allah Akbar! but is having it classified as “workplace violence.”

Oh wait, David has paid attention to Hasan! He just considers him another honorary white dude, like the Lamestream media considers George Zimmerman.

“White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for your group to be profiled as terrorists as a result, subjected to special screening or threatened with deportation,” writes author Tim Wise. “White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came, just to ensure that others like him or her don’t get any ideas. And if he turns out to be a member of the Irish Republican Army we won’t bomb Dublin. And if he’s an Italian-American Catholic we won’t bomb the Vatican.”

Emotionally, it is very hard for me to consider such ilk as fellow Americans, let alone as decent human beings.

171 Replies to “David Sirota of Salon on Boston Bomber: I SEE WHITE MEN!!! [Darleen Click]”

  1. newrouter says:

    “White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for your group to be profiled as terrorists as a result

    ax billy ayers and his slut wife and the bitch at columbia

  2. newrouter says:

    ax the #occupy cleveland bombers

  3. palaeomerus says:

    Unabomber sez howdy-hey.

  4. beemoe says:

    “White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came, just to ensure that others like him or her don’t get any ideas.”

    I like this idea. Bombing the fuck out of Bill Ayers neighborhood sounds like a good start to me.

  5. bh says:

    I don’t know about white privilege but progressive privilege allows one to be a terrorist bomber and then become a respected academic and friends with the President of the United States of America.

    Change one word and their thesis actually makes a bit of sense.

  6. happyfeet says:

    i’m not sure he’s worth paying attention to this is just a banal grad student ejaculation

    don’t touch it

    this is why I always grab extra purell wipes from jesus chicken

  7. Patrick Chester says:

    Is there any depth of indecency that the Left will not plumb?

    That’s a rhetorical question, right? :-o

  8. Jeff G. says:

    Sirota is all over the History Channel 80s documentary. He ruins every last bit of it.

  9. Alec Leamas says:

    He samples Tim Wikkity-Wikkity-Wikkity-Wak-Wize. A licky boom boom down.

  10. I want David Sirota to consider the implications of Salon-emoter Privilege.

    He has a Get Out of Jail Free card from White Privilege Guilt that us non-Salon-emoters don’t have.

    And that’s, like, totally unfair.

  11. SBP says:

    “United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came”

    That would be because the corn field or mountain town or suburb doesn’t give the attacker sanctuary and refuse to hand him over.

    But we’ll just ignore that, shall we?

  12. Ernst Schreiber says:

    a religious or ethnic minority group lacking such privilege would likely be collectively slandered and/or targeted with surveillance or profiling (or worse)[.].

    Which explains why nobody spoke up after 9/11 and every subsequent attack to remind us that not all Muslims were terrorists and that we didn’t want to repeat the mistakes that lead the internment of Japanese-Americans* in WWII. And because nobody was there to tell us the Islam was a religion of peace blah blah etc. etc. the whole country went nuts and carried out a pogrom the likes of which not even the Spanish Inquisition or the Russian Checka would have dared to imagine.

    On the plus side, it’s a lot easier to catch an airplane now that it’s automatically assumed that a brown person attempting to board a plane has a bomb up his ass.

  13. Ernst Schreiber says:

    * Germans and Italians were interred too, but that doesn’t count because WHITE PRIVILEGE.

    Or is it DOESN’T FIT THE NARRATIVE.

    It’s hard to remember the meme of the day.

  14. Spiny Norman says:

    Sirota is all over the History Channel 80s documentary. He ruins every last bit of it.

    I watched a bit of one episode, until about 15 or 20 minutes in that prick turned up… haven’t watched any more of it.

  15. sdferr says:

    It’s even harder to remember the doctrine of white men which isn’t taught, i.e. white men should slaughter innocent by-standers. Oh wait, that’s Obazm’s gig with the UAVs, innit?

  16. Spiny Norman says:

    BTW, Iowahawk and friends are having some fun having some fun at Sirota’s expense.

  17. Ernst Schreiber says:

    So which White Privilege is the very pale, very European looking Mr. Sirota talking about? The cheap grace of the two minute hate and the Junior Anti-Sex League’s red sash (look at me! look how, pure, how orthodox I am! Hey, wanna get it on?)? Or the privilege of owning your failures but not your successes (you didn’t build that)?

  18. Neo says:

    Yesterday was the 148th anniversary of the death of Abraham Lincoln.
    I’m surprised that somebody hasn’t blamed the Republicans for attacking a ”blue state” in their “rush to judgement.”

  19. happyfeet says:

    speaking of White Privilege

    National Soros Radio is spinning the fascist propaganda in an even more stupefyingly navel-gazing way than normal

    On Monday, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and some others made a point of highlighting President Obama’s failure to use the words “terror” or “terrorism” in his following the Boston Marathon bombings.

    On Tuesday, the president changed the dynamics somewhat: “This was a heinous and cowardly act,” Obama said in a brief statement he delivered in the White House press briefing room. “And given what we now know about what took place, the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism. Anytime bombs are used to target innocent civilians it is an act of terror.”

    Obama’s use of the word “terror” has been much more deliberate than that of his predecessor, George W. Bush. Of course, the Bush administration saw itself waging a “global war on terror” after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    In this regard, at least, Obama can be seen as the anti-Bush. He argued during his 2008 campaign that Bush invoked the term too broadly, in too black-and-white terms, and too often. Obama argued that Bush’s focus on “terror” sacrificed a more effective national security.

    Obama’s presidency, in comparison, has been a study in caution (and former Vice President Dick Cheney has called Obama “”).

    Early in his administration, Obama “global war on terror” — if not the actual drone strikes against terrorist targets.

    Whether it’s been for political reasons, out of an abundance of caution, or some combination, Obama seems to prefer to walk, not run, to the point where he’s willing to utter “terrorist.”

    what the fuck are they babbling about? What the goddamn fuck does Bush have to do with any of this?

    Jesus God NPR Food Stamp is a pussy.

    Deal with it.

    #stillnotmyfuckingpresident

  20. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Whether it’s been for political reasons, out of an abundance of caution, or some combination, Obama seems to prefer to walk, not run, to the point where he’s willing to utter “terrorist.”

    I wonder if getting all chumy with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn has anything to do with his reticence.

  21. Spiny Norman says:

    Whether it’s been for political reasons, out of an abundance of caution, or some combination, Obama seems to prefer to walk, not run, to the point where he’s willing to utter “terrorist.”

    Barry leading from behind again?

  22. SBP says:

    “So which White Privilege is the very pale, very European looking Mr. Sirota talking about?”

    Hey, he came from the mean streets of Montgomery County, PA (median household income: $89k) and clawed his way through the blackboard jungles of William Penn Charter School (tuition: ~$29k annually) and Northwestern (tuition: ~$15K/quarter). Respect!

  23. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Well, no wonder he pretends to be embarrassed to be white.

  24. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Phony noblesse oblige is even more irritating than the genuine article.

  25. EBL says:

    We need Pressure Cooker Control legislation! You know how white people love to can!

  26. Pablo says:

    a religious or ethnic minority group lacking such privilege would likely be collectively slandered and/or targeted with surveillance or profiling (or worse)[.].

    You mean like al Qaeda? Fecking idjit.

  27. Pablo says:

    Well, no wonder he pretends to be embarrassed to be white.

    I’m embarrassed that he’s white. I wonder if we can trade him.

  28. beemoe says:

    “United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb…”

    If David Koresh had only planted corn around his compound.

  29. SBP says:

    He might want to ask the former residents of Dresden how well that “white privilege makes you immune to bombing” thingie works out.

  30. […] Salon hopes for a par­tic­u­lar type of killer and Politico gears up for a national con­ver­sa­tion about some­thing, ANY­THING the sin­gle […]

  31. Car in says:

    If David Koresh had only planted corn around his compound.

    I guess the Name Randy Weaver is also unknown to this tool.

  32. Car in says:

    This person seems to have a basic lack of knowledge.

    If recent history is any guide, if the bomber ends up being a white anti-government extremist, white privilege will likely mean the attack is portrayed as just an isolated incident — one that has no bearing on any larger policy debates. Put another way, white privilege will work to not only insulate whites from collective blame, but also to insulate the political debate from any fallout from the attack.

    Is he insane? Does he not remember after Oklahoma City, the attention paid to militias all over the country? How any act of random violence by a white dudes leads to hours and hours of hand-wringing discussion by the teevee talking heads?

  33. what the fuck are they babbling about?

    Imagine the crippling moment of clarity if one of them ever asked himself that question.

  34. […] Malkin: Desperate Dem Terry McAuliffe Sues Watchdog.org Over Green Tech/Cash-For-Visas Expose Protein Wisdom: Salon’s David Sirota On Boston Bomber – “I SEE WHITE MEN!” Shot In The Dark: A Crisis Not To be Wasted Power Line: On Gun Control, The Dems Don’t Have […]

  35. Squid says:

    I’m embarrassed for Sirota, and I’m embarrassed that white men everywhere must be tarnished with stupidity-by-association.

  36. ThomasD says:

    I don’t get the pressure cooker device.

    Oh, I get it from the third world standpoint. Over there they are ubiquitous, easily overlooked, and – given the dirt poor nature of the places – may be the only decent metal container of any sort available.

    But, as a high pressure vessel they suck. Being made of thin aluminum they probably burst at maybe 2 or 3 atmospheres, and -as the pictures prove- remain largely intact.

    What any bomb maker with half a brain would want is something made out of high strength steel, which will sustain a much higher pressure before bursting, and is more likely to shatter into multiple pieces.

    Here in the US there are just so many other easily purchases/made objects that would make a better bomb – both more compact and more powerful even still using whatever form of powder that was used. Either the people involved (and it seem like more than one given the logistics of surreptitiously placing two devices) had limited their research to jihadi type sources or were actual jihadi types themselves.

    Which doesn’t rule out a home grown wacko, but sure places the emphasis on wacko.

  37. sdferr says:

    any bomb maker with half a brain would want

    We have to be thankful this one hasn’t but the half. Problem is, he’s still out there, possibly learning even.

  38. Squid says:

    Pressure cooker devices are easy, though, and don’t require a lot of extra work or training. Given that we’ve established* that the bomber is a lazy fat guy who’s sick and tired of being pushed around and ridiculed by skinny, fit busybodies, it makes perfect sense that he’d take the easy route.

    Hey hey! Ho ho! Trans-fat bans have got to go! If bringing back Big Gulps and smoking in bars saves just one child, it’s worth it. I want Bloomberg and the ObamaCaring to look Americans in the eye and tell them that bowing down before Big Health is really worth it.

    * Well, I’ve established it, anyway. Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

  39. […] the Left In America will take every advantage they can of this situation, both regarding matters directly related to the Bombing and […]

  40. ThomasD says:

    Half a brain or more, the smartest thing he/they did was select a target that gave maximum exposure but also offered a very good chance of getting in/getting out unnoticed.

    Even with all the available footage it’s still going to be a search for a needle in a needle stack.

    My sneaking suspicion is that the explosive materials used are things that bomb sniffing dogs are not trained to hit on. If the dogs went off every time they smelled charcoal, sulfur, or nitrate anybody who had recently come into contact with grilled hot dogs and potato salad is gonna get a cavity search.

    Whether this was by design or chance remains to be seen.

  41. serr8d says:

    Last pressure cooker I saw was my Grandmother’s, filled with plums for making plum jelly.

    Whatever happened to plum jelly? Haven’t seen that around in ages.

  42. serr8d says:

    As I recall, that pressure cooker was a monstrously large and heavy device. Perhaps those available today at Target are smaller and lighter?

  43. serr8d says:

    Oh, ‘feets, I’ve made you more famouser…

    https://twitter.com/serr8d/status/324533128947453952

  44. Spiny Norman says:

    David Sirota’s douchebaggery inspires a new meme: #Siroting

  45. ThomasD says:

    Canning type cookers are huge, ones for rice or beans can be much smaller.

  46. sdferr says:

    smaller and lighter?

    They come in a huge range of sizes, from roughly 4 quarts at the low end to multi-gallon jobs for home use, to industrial behemoths.

  47. Slartibartfast says:

    What any bomb maker with half a brain would want is something made out of high strength steel, which will sustain a much higher pressure before bursting, and is more likely to shatter into multiple pieces.

    I’d be tempted to score it so as to encourage small shrapnel generation.

    But, as a high pressure vessel they suck. Being made of thin aluminum they probably burst at maybe 2 or 3 atmospheres, and -as the pictures prove- remain largely intact.

    Aluminum?

  48. palaeomerus says:

    “Is he insane? Does he not remember after Oklahoma City, the attention paid to militias all over the country? How any act of random violence by a white dudes leads to hours and hours of hand-wringing discussion by the teevee talking heads?”

    Yeah the guy bombing abortion offices was conflated with EVERY prolifer or chirstian too.

    But he’s not insane. He’s a dishonest zealot who thinks that you, the reader, are dumb enough to believe him and that you will NEVER EVER challenge his pronouncements, nor will his peers, or anyone in the “real” press because they find his fantasy convenient. He is a propagandist asshole putting a coat of paint over the real world and baiting suckers, not a guy having a reasonable conversation about real problems.

  49. palaeomerus says:

    I tried to fry some chicken in a pressure cooker once. It did not work out. And the pressure cooker took up a lot of space so I left it at goodwill to find a new friend.

  50. ThomasD says:

    Thanks for the link Slart. There’s another strike against the evil genius perp theory.

    The pictures of the actual one clearly show it to be aluminum – also the way it deformed is emblematic.

    Scuba tanks were originally steel. Then eventually switched to aluminum, mainly for weight savings. But aluminum also had the added benefit that, when it did rupture, it usually just split open but otherwise stayed intact. Steel tanks weren’t so forgiving. The downside of aluminum is that they wear out quicker (but that made everyone much more attentive to observing proper hydro testing.)

    It used to be that you could tell the approximate age of a dive shop whether the fill room was inside the main building or outside. Sheds and out buildings being easier and cheaper to repair. Also older shops would often have a ruptured tank or two on display, and the steel ones usually had a chunk or two MIA.

  51. sdferr says:

    Beans beans beans beans beans

    Still produces quasi-explosive gas though.

  52. geoffb says:

    At Weasel Zippers they had some pictures of the pressure cooker that was used for one of the bombs.

    On the base can be seen “1NOX” and there was information that the device was 6 liters. There is a brand by T-fal sold only in Europe called SEB. The 6 liter model has on the bottom the identifying characters “SA SEB 6L 1NOX TYPE 3215“.

    This is the only pressure cooker that comes up linked with “1NOX”. Why would a bomber use a device sold in Europe and one that is no longer sold even there? Just happen to buy one on Ebay? Or have it laying around the house?

  53. […] Is there any depth of indecency that the Left will not plumb? […]

  54. sdferr says:

    Just happen to buy one on Ebay?

    Or at a flea market, junk shop, etc. Could be a tough trace.

  55. Silver Whistle says:

    I don’t think that’s 1NOX, but INOX, which is Froggy and generic Eurospeak for stainless (acier inoxydable).

  56. Slartibartfast says:

    The pictures of the actual one clearly show it to be aluminum – also the way it deformed is emblematic.

    The Tefal pressure cooker Geoffb links to is stainless, FWIW. One of these suggestions is incorrect.

  57. Jeff G. says:

    That’s interesting, geoff. Have you seen that evidence presented anywhere else? If not, may I post it here?

  58. Jeff G. says:

    Oh. Good catch, SW.

  59. geoffb says:

    Thank you SW.

    Never mind my above.

  60. geoffb says:

    I still wonder about it being referred to as 6 liter when US ones are in quarts and the INOX. It would point to it being a European model cooker.

  61. Silver Whistle says:

    De rien, mes vieux.

  62. geoffb says:

    In the last photo is a picture of some of the “ball bearings” which, if the ruler there is right, are just under 3/16 inch in diameter which would point to them being BBs which are that size and common.

  63. […] I used to be driven to fisk with wild abandon, but since Jeff G. at Protein Wisdom has already made short work Sirota (and he’s getting  bludgeoned in the Twitterverse), I needn’t […]

  64. leigh says:

    Clearly the Boston Bomber is a grandma. And probably a Mormon.

  65. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Half a brain or more, the smartest thing he/they did was select a target that gave maximum exposure but also offered a very good chance of getting in/getting out unnoticed.
    Even with all the available footage it’s still going to be a search for a needle in a needle stack.
    My sneaking suspicion is that the explosive materials used are things that bomb sniffing dogs are not trained to hit on. If the dogs went off every time they smelled charcoal, sulfur, or nitrate anybody who had recently come into contact with grilled hot dogs and potato salad is gonna get a cavity search.
    Whether this was by design or chance remains to be seen.

    My worry is that this was a test run for moving through a large crowd before attacking it. Think Times Square and New Year’s Eve.

  66. leigh says:

    Independence Day isn’t too far away, either. What’s a little extra pyrotechnics/concussion before someone catches on that it’s not part of the show?

  67. Car in says:

    Even with all the available footage it’s still going to be a search for a needle in a needle stack.

    I have a feeling it’s not going to be as hard as they’re letting on.

    EVERYone takes pictures at these things. The truth is out there.

  68. sdferr says:

    Carin, have you seen a photo of the bag sitting in place prior to exploding yet? Seems like that pic should have turned up already.

  69. sdferr says:

    That wasn’t clear, my apologies. I’ve seen the suggested photo of the second bomb site, and the bag sitting alongside the curb. (I don’t happen to believe that’s the device, for now.) But by the above question, I intended the first bomb site, where there was a scissor-lift positioned for cameras, I assume. And assume as well other photographs were taken in and around the first bomb site at the finish line prior to the device going off.

  70. Car in says:

    I have not but the site that is doing the hard core searching is swamped and I’m only seeing the stuff that’s being posted on facedouche.

  71. leigh says:

    The Boston Globe is reporting the FBI has identified a subject in the videos.

  72. Pablo says:

    Stupid this powerful should burn.

    Terrorism and Privilege: Understanding the Power of Whiteness

    White privilege is knowing that if the Boston bomber turns out to be white, we will not be asked to denounce him or her, so as to prove our own loyalties to the common national good.

    Yeah, like we embraced McVeigh.

  73. SBP says:

    “It would point to it being a European model cooker.”

    Or Canadian, maybe.

  74. Ask the white guy in the photo missing his lower right leg how privileged he feels.

    I hope the guy is purple with yellow polka dots to make him extremely easy to find. But then again, I’m not trying to score political points, nor do I have any particular concern about high capacity pressure cookers.

  75. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m having trouble remembering here, so someone help me. When was it, exactly, that we made Americans of middle Eastern descent swear loyalty oaths? Maybe we put OBL posters on doormats and mailed them to every mosque?

    What I do remember are a couple of kerfuffles over whether or not we needed to trip all over ourselves to demonstrate our tolerance and inclusivity; something about a memorial in Pennsylvania to something or other and a new mosque in New York city somewhere.

    But maybe those were about whose sensibilities were more worthy of sensitivity, and didn’t have anything to do with “the common national good” at all.

  76. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Two idiots talking about white privilege: what are the odds?

  77. Sirota benefits from Douchebag Privilege.

  78. ThomasD says:

    I hadn’t seen the photo that shows the inox imprint, that would be stainless steel then.

  79. ThomasD says:

    Only the metal sure as hell looks like aluminum to my eyes.

  80. ThomasD says:

    I wonder if it is anything like Allclad – with bonded layers of both metals.

  81. geoffb says:

    Here is a video that has the image of the package that sdferr referred to above. 30 seconds in.

  82. geoffb says:

    ThomasD, the earlier picture of the top shows it to be rather too thin to be aluminum. IMO.

  83. sdferr says:

    I wonder if it is anything like Allclad – with bonded layers of both metals.

    If not the sides of the things, at least the bottoms are commonly laminated metals.

  84. ThomasD says:

    Good point Geoff, it does seem very thin.

    More broadly, with the current conflicting reports of arrests/suspects/persons of interest if you were a person, carrying any sort of package, within a one mile radius of the blasts on that day, it might be best if you just submitted your name and address to the FBI. Maybe even drove yourself to the nearest office right now.

    Because, sooner or later it’s gonna happen.

  85. palaeomerus says:

    “Yeah, like we embraced McVeigh.”

    All I know is, Wilbo Ayers ain’t in jail. So maybe it’s not white privilege so much as leftist white privilege.

  86. ThomasD says:

    Oh, and when you go downtown bring

    a) a lawyer (remember Richard Jewell), and
    b) the bag(s) you had with you that day

    Probably get you out the door quicker.

  87. palaeomerus says:

    So how long before the local police start having pressure cooker buy-backs and you have to get a demolitions/hazardous explosives certification to buy and use a pressure cooker ?

    I sure hope the government doesn’t find out about paint cans. I guess we’d end up with paint bags or something. And they’d be recyclable AND biodegradable.

  88. cranky-d says:

    If there were no pressure cookers, people wouldn’t build bombs to kill other people.

  89. palaeomerus says:

    We need to get rid of pipes too. Or have soft pipes.

  90. leigh says:

    Cut to the chase, boys. No more fire. Ever. Not for anything. That’ll kill it in the crib.

    And no cell-phones. Or alarm clocks. Or kitchen timers, which we won’t need because there will be no fire.

    Here, report to this intake center at six.

  91. sdferr says:

    Betimes the sonsabitches just build themselves.

  92. palaeomerus says:

    We’d better get rid of air compressors too. I’ve seen them do some pretty frightening stuff like inflate a bob-tailed truck tire instantly.

  93. sdferr says:

    Then there was this little beauty.

  94. leigh says:

    See? Fire bad!

  95. palaeomerus says:

    I think I remember Brenham Texas blowing up in 1990 or so. It was a natural gas line that went up. So we probably need to outlaw salt domes.

  96. leigh says:

    Trains are bad too, regardless of Joe the Biden’s affection for them. They are forever colliding when full of toxic chemicals and killing unsuspecting poor folk who are forced through economic necessity to live near-by the tracks.

    Boom! goes the train and whoosh goes the chlorine gas.

  97. palaeomerus says:

    Don’t have an air compressor? S’okay. Hillbilly magic can inflate tires too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiv6fW2aYqc

  98. palaeomerus says:

    If someone made a solar powered bomb wouldn’t be better for the environment?

  99. VekTor_ says:

    Yessiree, “white privilege” means that white males involved with terrorist-type activities always get treated as “lone wolf” individuals, rather than as members of a group… and then the group being the target of any repercussions.

    I mean, just ask white males John Walker Lindh and Adam Gadahn. They are poster boys for “white privilege”.

  100. SBP says:

    Now, now. All we need are some reasonable compromises.

    1) No high-capacity, military-style pressure cookers. No one needs a pressure cooker of more than one quart capacity.
    2) Background check before pressure cooker purchase.
    3) Get rid of the “taste festival” loophole. All pressure cooker sales must go through licensed pressure cooker dealers.

  101. leigh says:

    Spies, will we need to register our already owned pressure-cookers with the FBI? How can I prove I inherited it from my Grandma?

    I may need a bail bondsman.

  102. cranky-d says:

    I foresee a lot of pressure cookers ending up at the bottom of lakes.

  103. sdferr says:

    Fox News Radio just reported the Feds are looking for two men, each seen on video or in pictures with a bag at the two bombing sites.

  104. palaeomerus says:

    We need someone to make us some 80% machined pressure cooker blanks. And bayonet lugs.

  105. SBP says:

    Just checked, and Amazon is still engaged in internet sales of pressure cookers, including a 21 quart model. No one needs a pressure cooker of that capacity to prepare a family meal.

    Have they no decency?

  106. sdferr says:

    I’ve an injunction floating around in my head against cooking tomatoes in a pressure cooker, but for the life of me I dunno where it came from. Anyhow, never tried it. Is it teh bomb?

  107. bh says:

    Tomatoes are fine but thicker sauces like a marinara tend to burn on the bottom because you can’t stir it properly while cooking.

  108. sdferr says:

    Thanks bh. Following up, is the breakdown sped up materially? ‘Cause if so, I’mma go for it.

  109. SBP says:

    I think it’s pressure canning that you’re not supposed to do — a boiling water bath is sufficient for tomatoes, and the higher temperature of a pressure cooker will destroy some of the flavor.

  110. bh says:

    Oh, it greatly speeds it up. Maybe 15 minutes total.

    It’s also a simple way to make a garlic confit in far less time than normal.

  111. sdferr says:

    I had some sense of foaming caused by the tomatoes SBP, but again, it’s been so long ago I heard the story I can’t recall the rationale.

  112. bh says:

    Give this a try sometime. Quick, easy, and results in a nice little jar of deep flavor to have sitting in the fridge.

  113. leigh says:

    Pressure canning is a must if you are canning high acid foods. It keeps the botulism at bay.

    Jams and such may be processed in a boiling water bath.

  114. sdferr says:

    Just to be clear, I ain’t talking about canning, but about making sauce tomatoes from fresh.

  115. leigh says:

    Then you don’t need a pressure cooker. Just two hours of free time.

  116. bh says:

    That’s what I was assuming, sdferr. About 15 minutes at 1 bar and you’ll have stewed tomatoes. Chop ’em up quickly first and it’ll be roughly equivalent to crushed tomatoes.

  117. sdferr says:

    I figured you got it bh, but canning kept coming up so I jes’ wanted to throw the word in.

  118. bh says:

    If you have some chicken thighs available you’re on the path to my favorite way to make a nice cacciatore.

  119. SBP says:

    “Pressure canning is a must if you are canning high acid foods. ”

    Low acid. High acid (like tomatoes) are what’s okay without pressure.

  120. leigh says:

    You know, I thought “damn it!” as soon as I hit post. We need an edit button.

  121. pdbuttons says:

    i used to live in san diego
    went to robertos 24 /7
    they used to give a carrot/jalopeno throwaway bag
    extra-with every meal
    the carrots were soft/but spicy
    any one have recipe? I must say this thing now
    What’s up Doc?

  122. sdferr says:

    pd, getcha one a these, make up a pickling juice to taste (vinegar, salt, sugar, spices, honion, garlics, li’l thai peppers, whatevs), brung it to near a boil hotness, toss in many a sliced up jalapeno and carrots cut to size you wann’em, cook til carrots get to near what softness you want (they still cook while coolin’), stop cookin’, cool the whole, put ’em all in teh jar and you’re good to go.

  123. pdbuttons says:

    look-if u boil the carrots to get them flexible/soft chewy and stuff-which is a pain in the ass-how do you get them spicy?
    I’m not Dr. Phibes but I wANT SEMI-CRUNCHY HOT CARROT STICKS FOR oops
    It shouldn’t be this hard

  124. sdferr says:

    Dude, if cooking is a pain in the ass, don’t cook. Whether it’s hard to find what you want is your look out.

  125. leigh says:

    I make pickled carrots and jalapenos every summer. Super easy.

  126. bh says:

    Had to pick up a vacuum sealer for the restaurant so I’ve been making wacky ass pickles every couple days.. Two inch sections of green onion and rice vinegar is simple but the best I’ve come up with yet.

  127. happyfeet says:

    the spicy comes from letting them sit in the spicy brine for many moons Mr. buttons

  128. sdferr says:

    O heck hf, I thought I had ‘im goin’ on some misdirected bland-ass carrot concoction.

  129. bh says:

    Heh, thai peppers are hotter than I can appreciate.

  130. happyfeet says:

    pickles!

  131. cranky-d says:

    So you’re out of the investment business and in the restaurant business now, bh?

    Frying pan, meet fire.

  132. bh says:

    That would be too sensible, cranky. I’m still in both. (Making partner a couple years back in the first made it easier to scale back participation there without having to totally resign.)

    But, yeah, I’ve decided to enter the tranquil, carefree world of hospitality.

    Guess who has a health inspector crawling up his ass this coming Monday?

  133. sdferr says:

    Uh oh, get out the toothbrushes.

  134. pdbuttons says:

    look-semi soft chewy carrots with out a fucking nazi jar
    or Amish time
    time-are u retardareenos telling me I have to wait? like a gun bill or amnesty?
    I want my binky!

  135. newrouter says:

    clean the can openers

  136. bh says:

    Uh oh, get out the toothbrushes.

    If only. So far I need another exhaust hood, two new hand-washing stations, a four sink instead of a three and written variances for sous vide cooking, house-curing of meats, and the smokers out back.

    We’ll see what the list looks like after this next visit. Fun!

  137. leigh says:

    Dude, let them sit for about two months, then enjoy! In the meantime, pick up some canned ones in the International Foods aisle at Giant.

  138. sdferr says:

    Ach, get out the wallet then. For the stuff. Not the palm grease.

  139. pdbuttons says:

    Curly-” Hey Moe..I’m in a pickle!”
    Larry ”
    Moe’ ‘Why I oughta..”
    Larry ” “

  140. newrouter says:

    written variances for sous vide cooking

    over cooked meals – it’s the law

  141. newrouter says:

    green beans and cond. mushroom soup @ 80 c for 2 hrs is tastey

  142. bh says:

    over cooked meals – it’s the law

    It’s funny because it’s true.

  143. bh says:

    You have a sous vide rig set up now, nr? That’s awesome.

  144. pdbuttons says:

    it sucks that eveyones kinda right about the carrot thing

    i can admit it
    you’re a better man or something than me
    gunga din ha ha but
    i will seek the scarelet pimpernel soft chewy spicy vegetable
    i’m dedicated

  145. Pablo says:

    i used to live in san diego
    went to robertos 24 /7
    they used to give a carrot/jalopeno throwaway bag

    And the burritos were as big as your head, for like $3.50.

  146. leigh says:

    I used to go to Roberto’s quite a bit. Great eats. My gods, their buildings were hideous, though.

  147. VekTor_ says:

    Hmmm… Three-fitty you say? A burrito salesman, or a Loch Ness Monster?

  148. bh says:

    I’m guessing this was during the 90s.

    Burritos as big as your head were also to be had in Madison and Chicago for under $4 during those heady years of grunge music and this new thing called the internet.

  149. pdbuttons says:

    I one dollar-5 rolled tacos
    which where basically fried up corn tortillas with a lil something something meat inn em and ima sorry to keep harping on this
    soft spicy carrots carne asada burritto
    but then there was always the jack
    Jack in a box..who had a double cheeseburger thing going on
    across the street

  150. pdbuttons says:

    take me home
    country roads
    patty melt

  151. pdbuttons says:

    rueben

  152. bh says:

    Double layer of corn tortilla with some skirt steak, fresh cilantro, and onion are still my favorite tacos. I think of them as “real”.

    There used to be this joint in Wicker Park where my friends’ bands would play some dive bar in the back but the street-front business was this taqueria you’d stumble back to after shots to get that fortifying goodness into your belly before more shots and other much more questionable decisions.

  153. bh says:

    Good times.

  154. pdbuttons says:

    weird/ im a cheeseburger fan/
    always askin “this place got good c Cheesenburghers?]’
    of course they say they do
    so
    I’m in Newport RIp-blah blah
    i end up on the hill/ in lower rent country
    asking/starving
    “You got good cheeseburgers?”
    she big tiity bartend/opens the back door to show me a n open pit-/she opens fridge to big ball of meat
    starts patty caking
    “So..how u want it..?”

  155. cranky-d says:

    Once you start drinking shots the concept of questionable decisions has already been put to rest I think.

  156. pdbuttons says:

    The concept of questionable decisions
    to be, or not to be..

  157. bh says:

    What’s poignant to me is that when I was first commenting here I was in my 20s and immortal so shots and lunacy and… questionable decisions.

    Now I’m months to 40 and very consciously mortal so big career moves and cash outlays and… questionable decisions.

    This place is like Cheers but it’s lasted longer.

  158. bh says:

    This place has been around so long that most of us have actual character arcs by now.

    Strange.

  159. leigh says:

    “I’m guessing this was during the 90s.”

    80s for me. Good times.

  160. beemoe says:

    “Yeah, like we embraced McVeigh.”

    All I know is, Wilbo Ayers ain’t in jail. So maybe it’s not white privilege so much as leftist white privilege.

    Exactly. Rudolph is doing life, McVeigh got the needle, and Bill Ayers is a fucking hero.

    The privilege got nothing to do with color.

  161. cranky-d says:

    I’m less than two months from 49, youngster.

    Kids these days…

  162. bh says:

    You’re one of those I’d like to buy a beer one of these days, ol’ man.

  163. Pablo says:

    I’m guessing this was during the 90s.

    Yup. Still only $5 and change tho.

  164. Mike LaRoche says:

    One week to 38, myself.

  165. Mike LaRoche says:

    And to stay on topic, Dave Sirota is an assclown.

  166. I’m barely four months from 50 — in the wrong direction, unfortunately.

  167. Car in says:

    This place has been around so long that most of us have actual character arcs by now.

    I was about 35 when I started commenting here, so that makes me … well, about 36 or so.

    *cries quietly to self

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