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Cantor threatens “civil war” on conservatives; demands (and “wins”) passage of Democrat Senate bill

And you thought it was only Boehner who was willing to caucus with Democrats against his own party rank and file.  Katrina Trinko, NRO:

House majority leader Eric Cantor is increasingly frustrated with a group of House Republicans who are working against the leadership, and he’s not afraid of voicing his dismay.

In a closed-door conference meeting on Wednesday, Cantor told one GOP member that if they blocked the Senate-passed Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) from coming to the floor, they’d cause “civil war” in the ranks.

Cantor’s comment irked some Republican aides, who told National Review Online that such strong language is inappropriate. In recent days, some conservatives have been upset about the Senate’s version of VAWA, saying that parts of the bill are unconstitutional.

Nevertheless, Cantor’s warning may have had an effect. When the bill came to the floor on Wednesday, only nine Republicans voted against the rule to take up the bill.

Tensions between backbenchers and the leadership, however, are evident. Behind the scenes, House Republicans raised concerns about VAWA throughout the day. Eventually, though, the rule passed, 414–9, and the House plans a final vote on the Senate’s version of VAWA [today].

Among those to vote against the rule that will bring a vote to the floor were Karl Rove targets Georgia Senate candidate Paul Broun and potential Iowa Senate candidate Steve King.

Today, the House passed the Harry Reid-led Senate legislation.

This bill, the “Violence Against Women Act [VAWA],” in its Senate version does at least four egregious things:  federalize domestic violence laws (already ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS in 2000), taking that power from the states; expand the parameters of “domestic violence” to include “unpleasant speech” and emotional abuse, both terms left deliberately vague to ensnare as many “offenders” as possible (and in potential violation of the 1st Amendment); grant authority to Native American Federation courts to prosecute non-Native American US citizens; and finally, redefine women to include men, homosexuals, the transgendered, and prisoners — while granting illegals suffering from domestic violence immigration rights.

But perhaps worst of all, conviction under such federal law will negate the right to gun ownership — meaning that men, women, homosexuals, and the transgendered can all lose their 2nd Amendment rights for inflicting “emotional abuse” on a partner, or even for engaging in “unpleasant speech.”

— Which I suppose trumps the “shall not be infringed” portion of the amendment’s text in the Bill of Rights.

Here’s how Daniel Horowitz at Red State describes this dangerous and Orwellian leftwing legislation, actively pushed by the GOP-led Republican House (many of whom voted “no” once the Democrats and the 87 Republicans who voted  for passage were tallied, in much the same way McCain et al, used the Hagel confirmation vote):

Earlier today, the Republican-controlled House passed the Senate version of the unconstitutional Violence Against Women Act (VAWA).  The Senate bill expands “coverage” to illegal aliens, men, homosexuals, transgendered individuals and prisoners.  It  also expands the law’s reach to give tribal Indian authorities jurisdiction over non-Indians accused of abusing Indian women.

The final bill passed with the support of 87 Republicans.  Before voting on this bill, the House considered a substitute amendment that removed some of the new anomalies.  It was defeated by a coalition of Democrats and 60 Republicans.  It is important to note that about half of the GOP noes were opposing the bill precisely because it did not contain the new social engineering provisions.  So even if all the conservatives had supported the House version, there were enough liberal Republicans to block it.  Moreover, even had the GOP version passed the House, the conferees would have inserted the extra provisions in conference anyway.

[…]  The only thing the federal government can do to protect women is to pass a universal right to carry bill.  Everything else is just big government demagoguery.  There is no reason a GOP-controlled House should have brought this bill before the body, much less the Senate passed version.  If they are concerned about the political optics, they should have just ignored it and changed the subject to…let’s say gas and food prices.  Now that is a novel idea.  Giving the Democrats two full days to bludgeon you with gender warfare during debate time is evidently more politically prudent than repealing the ethanol mandate or some other useful legislation.

What is the purpose of a GOP-controlled House anyway?

You’ve heard me say this now on countless occasions, but I’m going to repeat it yet again:  we legal conservatives/classical liberals/libertarians have no representation in the US Congress.  And that’s because the current GOP leadership is filled with cowards who will trade away our rights under threat of bad press.

After all, who wants to vote for Violence Against Women, right?  And that’s all legislation is any more, is whatever perception can be created by its title.

The Republican Party is dead.   Or rather, those who want it can keep it.  It’s but the Democrats’ whorish little bitch, anyway — and I don’t put out for fascists or socialists, no matter how many baubles they dangle before me.

updateHot Air runs with the headline “Hastert Rule, strike three: House passes Senate’s Violence Against Women Act bill with majority of Republicans opposed,” which points out that Boehner’s house has now passed legislation on three separate occasion where the leadership caucused with the Democrats to defeat its own Party.

But as I noted in the post proper, the real pressure here was from Cantor demanding a vote be allowed in the first place. Once the lockstep Democrats and the certain liberal Republicans broke ranks, that freed up a number of Republicans to vote no on a bill they knew would pass once it made it to the floor vote.

This is the disingenuous, perception-based politics that comes from political “pragmatism,” and many of us simply will not be fooled by it.

Again, take the Hagel confirmation. Rand Paul voted for the filibuster to stop the confirmation vote; John McCain and a few other Republicans allowed the vote to go forward, knowing the Democrats had the numbers to confirm Hagel. Therefore, Paul’s filibuster vote is far more important than his later “yes” vote, just as McCain’s filibuster vote is far more important than his later “no” vote.

We know who these people are. And the sad truth is, the GOP base has no real representation in Congress, and in fact the establishment GOP is doing every thing in its power to coalesce in principle (such as it is) with the left.

And though many of you don’t like to hear it, it is what it is.
 

 

40 Replies to “Cantor threatens “civil war” on conservatives; demands (and “wins”) passage of Democrat Senate bill”

  1. newrouter says:

    “look i need a hill with a smoking lounge and a tanning bed ok you guys. ” – orangeman

  2. happyfeet says:

    if Boehnerfag wants to be a fascist so bad why doesn’t he just man up and switch parties

    i just don’t understand it

  3. beemoe says:

    Why do we call them third parties if there is no longer a second?

  4. newrouter says:

    “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer “

  5. JHoward says:

    we legal conservatives/classical liberals/libertarians have no representation in the US Congress.

    Boehner’s house has now passed legislation on three separate occasion where the leadership caucused with the Democrats to defeat its own Party.

    the establishment GOP is doing every thing in its power to coalesce in principle (such as it is) with the left.

    It’s taken a long time to wake the sleeping majority. Let it not take any more time to demand Boehner be removed and that anyone foolish enough to line up in his shadow be removed as well.

  6. JHoward says:

    if Boehnerfag wants to be a fascist so bad why doesn’t he just man up and switch parties

    i just don’t understand it

    Yes you do.

  7. happyfeet says:

    no, I don’t, Mr. Howard

    here is a link where you can see the overpriced clothings

  8. sdferr says:

    Cantor threatening civil war tends only to point to his failure of perception: the war has been going on for a long time now. People who take offense at a threat in the presence of the fact the threat has been achieved already are what? Sleepyheads, I guess. Or maybe dumbasses, if they claim to be awake.

  9. royced57 says:

    Jeff. I thought you were being a bit extreme in the run up to the 2012 Election. Sorry. You were not. We’re fucked. Good and truly fucked… for now at least.

    It’s gonna get ugly.

  10. newrouter says:

    email

    Dear ********,

    Have you seen what Obama’s pals are doing to push his liberal agenda? The president’s campaign apparatus-turned-advocacy network, Organizing for Action, has hit a new low. OFA is now selling access to the President…for a $500,000 donation. Even the liberal pundits, talking heads, and interest groups have chastised the practice.

    Chuck Todd pulled no punches this week when he said, “this just looks bad.” It’s one thing for OFA to raise money to push the liberal agenda–it’s a different story to blatantly sell access to the highest office in the land.

    The Obama administration has long been known for its crony capitalism–awarding its top donors with plum gigs and favors. At a time when Americans are facing so much economic uncertainty, the President should have YOUR ear–not the ear of one of his special interests.

    Chip in $15, $25, $100, or whatever you can to help us counter the $500,000 OFA is trying to raise. Selling White House access is cronyism at its worst. So let’s make sure President Obama knows we’re standing in the way. Help us reach our end of the month goals – donate whatever you can today!

    Joe Pounder
    Research Director, Republican National Committee

    reply: fuck you and the eric cantor.

  11. geoffb says:

    RESPECT, they will never give it too you Eric unless you just dry up and blow away. They are a Party of monsters. Unless you give in to every thing they will never, never, stop calling you an evil bastard.

    You can be a doormat for these twisted people to walk on or you stand up and fight them at every turn until they are defeated or you are dead. There is no third way. They only respect power.

  12. Gayle says:

    @jhoward Let it not take any more time to demand Boehner be removed and that anyone foolish enough to line up in his shadow be removed as well.

    From what I understand of the previous “coup” attempt against Boehner, none of the upstarts wanted to take the speakership, so the attempt fell apart.

    I see nothing to indicate that any of them have managed to grow gonads since that time.

  13. dicentra says:

    Which provision in the VAWA bill do the Establicans want so badly?

    What’s in it for them?

  14. cranky-d says:

    Welcome to the United Fascist States of America. Please have your papers ready.

  15. McGehee says:

    Paul Broun just earned a merit, if he runs for the Senate next year. If Rove’s against him he can’t be totally egregious. 99% maybe, but not totally.

  16. palaeomerus says:

    Maybe the tea party types need to offer not to caucus with the GOP anymore . Publically. Bring Cantor and Boehner into it by name. Ask why anyone should vote for them in 2014 when all they do is give up ground and blame their base for it? Ask how much they need in donations to sell out their donors and bash them once the checks clear. Ask them just how far into Hell they intend to follow Karl “the architect” Rove and his phantom Orca.

  17. palaeomerus says:

    Ask them if the sole of Obama’s shoe is red shifted or blue shifted.

  18. newrouter says:

    DENVER – Experienced Republican campaigners have entered the fight against Rep. Mike McLachlan, D-Durango, although it remains to be seen how much they will assist in an effort to recall him.

    A new nonprofit group called Colorado Citizens Protecting Our Constitution took out Web ads and a full-page print ad in the Feb. 17 Durango Herald to criticize McLachlan’s votes on four gun bills.

    The Web ads link to a one-page website that duplicates the print advertisement, attempting to link McLachlan to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a gun-control advocate.

    Three other Democrats were targeted with nearly identical full-page ads in their hometown newspapers. The ads mentioned Diane Mitsch-Bush of Steamboat Springs, Tony Exum of Colorado Springs and Dave Young of Greeley.

    link

  19. Jeff G. says:

    Jeff. I thought you were being a bit extreme in the run up to the 2012 Election. Sorry. You were not. We’re fucked. Good and truly fucked… for now at least.

    Thanks, royced57. And I’m sorry: I didn’t want to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it was what it was and I called it like I saw it. That’s what I’m here for.

    Other sites operate differently. But at the end of the day I always want to say I’ve kept my integrity. Which isn’t easy to do when you make as many vajayjay jokes as I do.

  20. Mike LaRoche says:

    Sequestergeddon is just 35 minutes away here in the Central Time Zone.

  21. serr8d says:

    Sequestergeddon is just 35 minutes away here in the Central Time Zone.

    Obama’s got a hot date.

  22. Mike LaRoche says:

    Obama’s got a hot date.

    Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey….

  23. SBP says:

    “Which provision in the VAWA bill do the Establicans want so badly?
    What’s in it for them?”

    Increased federal power isn’t enough?

    Remember when people used to say “don’t make a federal case out of it”? Everything is a federal case now.

  24. geoffb says:

    Mr. Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: ‘Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action’.
    […]
    The first time was the Fiscal Cliff.
    The second was the Debt Ceiling.
    The third was the VAWA.

  25. TeeJaw says:

    From: Why Obama Wins: Democrats Purge Moderates, Republicans Purge Conservatives

    “The Democrats’ strategy may deepen national divisions, and lead to bad policy, but it is, so far, the winning approach. Regardless, the pattern remains the same: the new, netroots-and-community-organizer Democratic leadership dispenses with party’s moderates, while the old Republican establishment tries to marginalize the grass roots conservatives who are largely responsible for the limited electoral successes the party has enjoyed in recent years.” [emphasis added]

    No enterprise that fires its most productive workers can last.

    Obama wins because the Democrats are stronger for what they are doing, and the Republicans are weaker because of what they are doing.

  26. Danger says:

    “What’s in it for them?”

    They won’t have to worry about being called sexist by Democrats.

    Wait,… WHAT???

    Belay my last.

  27. geoffb says:

    Obama thanks Cantor, Boehner for passing VAWA:

    “I want to thank leaders from both parties – especially Leader Pelosi, Congresswoman Gwen Moore and Senator Leahy – for everything they’ve done to make this happen.

    Oops.

    For Danger above, to show how well it worked.

  28. beemoe says:

    “I want to thank leaders from both parties…”

    Both Democrats and Progressives.

  29. They only respect power.

    I beg to differ. They HATE with an incandescent hatred power wielded by anybody other than themselves.

  30. And that includes, of course, power wielded by individuals over their own lives.

  31. Shtetl G says:

    Yes, but now violence against women is finally illegal, right? So what if our constitution is shredded. A small price to be paid to end the violence both physical and of course, most importantly, mental. You can’t have any bad thoughts. Besides our European betters will tell you how passe “Freedom of Speech” really is.

    Glenn Reynolds has a link this morning about the ascendency of the courts on politics today. I can’t help but think that if Congress didn’t keep such blatantly unconstitutional laws, the courts would have a little less say in politics. Of course it doesn’t help that most Judges don’t believe in the Constitution. I guess we are truly boned.

  32. McGehee says:

    Yes, but now violence against women is finally illegal, right?

    And bloody well about time too.

  33. Squid says:

    The Democrats’ strategy may deepen national divisions, and lead to bad policy, but it is, so far, the winning approach.

    Indeed, they keep winning battle after battle. But we know what lies at the end of their campaign: Utopia. The Workers’ Paradise. The Brave New World. Whatever you call it, it means the death of thousands, possibly millions.

    Me and mine are not going to be counted among those numbers. Just sayin’, is all.

  34. beemoe says:

    I can’t help but think that if Congress didn’t keep such blatantly unconstitutional laws, the courts would have a little less say in politics.

    That might be something to keep in mind when we rewrite the Constitution.

    There should be penalties involved with passing stupid laws.

  35. JohnInFirestone says:

    @beemoe

    Colonial villages had it right:

    Colonial villages were enjoined to have their own sturdy stocks, and those that were lax ran the risk of a fine. The magistrates in early Boston had imported from England bilboes, long heavy bars of iron with sliding shackles and padlocks that held many a colonial culprit by the heels. When replacements became needed, it dawned on the local pence watchers that iron was expensive and in short supply, though wood was plentiful. A set of wooden stocks was ordered, and as soon as the job was done, the magistrates selected as their first customer Edward Palmer, who was “fyned £5 & censured to bee sett an houre in the stocks.” Carpenter Palmer’s crime? He was accused of extortion for charging £1 13s. 7d. for the wood and his labor in building the stocks.

    If only we could do the same to legislators, sales of Cranky Cudgels ™ would take off!

  36. Squid says:

    Typical Boston government: attempt an untested design in an effort to save money, see the project go over budget, then punish the poor contractor who struggled to meet the poorly-defined specifications.

    And those were “the good old days!”

  37. geoffb says:

    They still will respect the power even as they hate that they are not the ones wielding it. Out of power they are reduced to muttering and plotting in basements. That is much better than their lording it over all of us daily.

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