It’s not that I didn’t expect some of the usual Leftist Emos to cheer on homicidal manic, Dorner — nevermind the cognitive dissonance of cheering on someone shooting The Man while said oppressed fighter published a “manifesto” full of yearning and praise for Big Daddy Government headed by Obama…
…However, the fact that Facebook pages are being put up to support him while his first victims are being mourned by the people whose lives they influenced is vile beyond belief.
But hey, when the culture of death celebrates abortion as hip and death panels as “the way to go” to get unproductive seniors out of the way, I guess my question is more rhetorical rant.
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UPDATE Man claiming to be Dorner calls father of murder victim
A man identifying himself as the fired LAPD officer wanted in the murders of a coach, her fiance and a California police officer, taunted the father of one of the victims, ABC News reported.
A man claiming to be Christopher Dorner, the former LAPD police officer who is the subject of a massive manhunt in California after allegedly killing Monica Quan and two others, called Randall Quan, Monica’s father, and told him that he “should have done a better job of protecting his daughter,” according to court documents cited by ABC.
The call apparently came four days after Dorner allegedly killed Monica Quan and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, and 11 hours after he allegedly murdered a police officer in Riverside, Calif.
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San Diego, California News Station – KFMB Channel 8 – cbs8.com
i can’t get worked up about it either way
I’m excited about president’s day weekend mostly
the LAPD sucks balls though on a daily basis
whereas this Dorner feller is gonna end up being a flash in the pan you just watch
Darleen, this is not going to end well.
We have a nut job ex-cop that has declared war on LAPD and considers everyone connected with LAPD to be a target.
Meanwhile, LAPD has decided it is open season on anyone who drives a truck. After the truck shooting incidents, the police chief made a bad situation worse by claiming “mistaken identity.”
How is the LAPD in charge of this investigation anyway? The guy is all over the map and their fruitless search of Big Bear is a waste of time and resources. Nutjob is not there.
Dorner has been in at least five counties and tried to steal a boat from one of the marinas in San Diego, which would put the Harbor Police and possibly the Coast Guard in jurisdiction on the angle. Careening across the other counties and big Bear is going to put him in jurisdiction of the Forestry Service, who are Feds, I believe, and the County Sheriffs of whichever county he is/was in.
Have the Feds taken over? It’s only a matter of time until he takes a hostage or two and then we’ll have kidnapping. Then bounce goes the ball to the Feds. Bye-bye PD and Sheriffs.
One good thing – another layer ripped off the face of the left in this country, revealing just how vile they are.
I don’t think the LAPD have to be officially in charge of it to still pose a threat to pick up owners.
” calls father of murder victim” is typical propaganda slut journalism
here is about the guy he called
He’s probably a piece of shit truth be told.
leigh
I don’t believe LAPD is “in charge” of this. They may be taking a lead in coordination, but CHP is doing road-checkpoints into/out-of Big Bear. San Bernardino Sheriff Department (which contract as city pd’s in most of San Bernardino) did the house-to-house in Big Bear. Other jurisdictions – from Orange County (Irvine where the couple were killed) to Riverside (Riverside PD officers ambushed) to San Diego. Even Border Patrol is involved.
Fuck you, griefer.
I’d delete your cretinism about the father who just lost his daughter, executed in cold blood, but I want others to see how low you’ve gone.
At least some of the “fan pages” are probably parodies, shallow comfort that might be.
Is the MFM still boycotting the portions of the manifesto that embarrass them and short-circuit their political agenda over Newtown? Just checking.
Jesus, piki, no wonder you got banned at Tepid Air.
I bet you are perpetually confused as to why people don’t like you very much.
That’s why I was asking Darleen. There are a shit-load of overlapping jurisdictions, county, city, state and federal. I’ve only seen the Chief of LAPD on tv, so I guess he is the designated spokesman. And I still say they are wasting their time in Big Bear. Shooter has grabbed himself another vehicle and is probably in Nevada by now.
darleen you don’t know dick about this guy at all – you don’t even know the facts in evidence
me what I know he’s an LAPD piece of shit (true) and I know he apparently does not make very good impressions on the people he’s supposed to defend at disciplinary hearings (also true)
Happy, shut up.
How’s about someone calls you up and tells you that your sister was just raped, strangled and dismembered? Because, you’re really kind of a piece of shit anyway. Truth be told.
Does the fact that some psycho killed his daughter make it impossible that he is indeed a corrupt piece of shit?
the LAPD does not get the benefit of the doubt Leigh
they have a long long history of really and truly horrific abusiveness, corruption, racism, and criminality
Does it matter, BMoe? His daughter is dead.
happy, I grew up in SoCal. I’m quite familiar with the LAPD. Probably more so than you.
yeah well I know more about the tacos I bet
darleen you don’t know dick about this guy at all
SO WHAT, asswipe! How does that justify the cold-blooded murder of his daughter and her fiance?
She was a Cal State Fullerton basketball coach for God’s sake!
But it’s ok with you that she’s dead becuz LAPD is corrupt???
Hey, chew on this, cretin. NYPD of the 70’s was everything you imagine about LAPD to the 10th power
Yet Frank Serpico never once figured he had to murder a cop or a cop’s family to bring it down.
Fuck.You.
beemoe
It is irrelevant. Period.
let’s try and argue in a civil manner please
you are imputing views to me what I do not possess
It isn’t irrelevant, and you are completely misrepresenting what happyfeet said.
It sucks that this guys daughter was killed. Nobody said any different.
But I really don’t give a shit that some idiots think Dorner was a hero. There are also idiots out there that think McVeigh and Rudoph were heroes. There are idiots out there that think Stalin and Castro and Hitler were heroes. None of this means shit to me or my life.
The fact that there are incompetent, corrupt, indiscriminate bullet spraying idiots out there with badges and handcuffs and the ability to throw my ass in jail or just gun me down on the street are what bothers me.
And I think that is what we should be focusing on here.
it remains very possible that what we have here is a corrupt cop who helped railroad an unstable guy and ultimately put his family at risk
the reason this is very possible is because we are talking about the LAPD
Shove it, griefer. Your credibility is nil.
ultimately put his family at risk
fuck you
drats I have to go I have company
don’t hurry back
I’ve had to fire people, so I guess, if someone has a grudge against me as the meanest boss around and a piece of shit, it’s MY fault if that someone goes and murders one of my daughters or grandkids.
and I shouldn’t expect sympathy for my loss, being a piece of shit (in the opinion of the murderer & their sympathizers).
Darleen, if you’re defending LAPD, you’re backing the wrong horse. LAPD just proved themselves to be everything Dorner said they were when LAPD shot up a neighborhood in the process of shooting up a truck with a couple of innocent civilians in it. Add to that the truck that was rammed and shot up in Torrance.
Blake
I’m saying whatever LAPD is is irrelevant to Dorner’s murders.
see what I said about Frank Serpico above.
And the cop that was murdered was Riverside PD. What beef has Dorner with them? or with a basketball coach?
Everything about Dorner screams “unstable asshole”. I’d like to see his FitReps.
I’d also like to know if he’s an Affirmative Action hire.
Has Obama called Mr. Quan to express his condolences about the senseless killing of his daughter and her fiance? Spoken of the obvious need to get rid of AA as a means of hiring because one act of senseless violence like this is one too many?
Has Obama called Mr. Quan to express his condolences about the senseless killing of his daughter and her fiance? Spoken of the obvious need to get rid of AA as a means of hiring because one act of senseless violence like this is one too many?
Those are good questions about ObaZma, despite that the answers were already known.
Still, they do tend to make one reflect that in the most general terms, ObaZma agrees with Dorner in respect of his willingness, if not simple delight, to punish and torment the children, or many-times-great grandchildren, of those whom he hates in particular.
He’s nothing if not disobedient to the rule set out against vengeance of blood. Though oddly enough, it is interesting he’s never made a special effort to go after Bin Laden’s children and grandchildren. Hmmm.
Darleen, Dorner is waging war, as far as he is concerned. Dorner considers anyone related to the cops that did him wrong to be legitimate targets, because, again, he’s waging war. Dorner also made it clear that any police department that joins in the manhunt for him becomes a target.
If you look at this from the viewpoint of how war is waged, then yes, Dorner’s targets make sense. And no, I’m not condoning Dorner’s actions. Unless PD realizes and accepts that Dorner has literally gone to war (again, in Dorner’s mind) they’ll be one step behind him.
Dorner has it in for authority figures. If they are wearing a uniform or a badge it just makes them easier to pick off.
– They want this guy out of action fast, and of course, so does the Lefturd media. 1 million posted as a reward now. Whatever they are saying publickly, you can bet your ass the FBI has been in on this since very soon after the first killings. Its almost routine to bring them in when you have inter-state criminal acts of any level of felony or murder involved. Now with an intrnational border possibly included its for sure they’re on it.
Has Obama called Mr. Quan to express his condolences about the senseless killing of his daughter and her fiance?
– I can find no account of a statement on Dorner by anyone from the gestoppo, let alone “daddy” himself.
– They are collectively staying as far away from this as possible. I would bet a real concern in the politiboro right now is the possibility this nutcase will try to contact Bumblefuck.
The Revermund Jackson came out with a statement that was largely sympathetic to Dornan yesterday. Which is to be expected in light of the fact that JJ’s own kid is on his way to the Big House and the JJ is a class A moron and opportunist.
The Reichstag had better hope that Dornan hasn’t hit the interstates going East.
Well, there’s one thing you can just about guarantee…this guy Dorner will never make it to a courtroom. It will either be self-inflicted when he finally gets cornered or suicide by cop.
Happyfeet, not even knowing you, but by your writing, I can tell you’re a pretty despicable person.
Blake, real soldiers try hard not to involve innocent citizens in their war. Only uncivilized guerrillas or terrorists maim and kill innocent people on purpose. So in essence, Dorner is not a hero, he is nothing more than a common thug.
Darleen isn’t defending the LAPD, and the LAPD did not shoot up a truck load of innocents. This is about individual behavior.
The killer in the story just got out of the military, you may as well blame them too, as well as the police department he worked for a short time.
I don’t know, and neither does any other regular here, the character of the man who the psycho targeted. But pretending like he shares blame with the man who murdered his daughter is despicable as far as I’m concerned. Regardless how corrupt the leadership of the department is.
Those cops who fired on the innocent civilians? They should be fired, charged with reckless endangerment, and fined the amount of their victims hospital bills and loss of income, plus some restitution.
That that won’t happen, that’s why the LAPD has a bad reputation. It all boils down to public services being unionized.
LBascom, I was merely looking for some clarification. Very easy for things to wind up conflated that shouldn’t be.
MikeG. I did not claim Dorner is or was a hero. Nor do I think Dorner should be lionized.
My beef is I don’t like being held accountable for what Eric Rudolph did because him and some folks who thought he was a hero share some of my views, and I don’t like painting some broad strokes about what “the left” thinks because of this.
It isn’t exactly news that you can find some extremist idiots on the internet.
I also have been fucking appalled at the behavior of the LAPD. The only reason several innocent people have been killed is that the accuracy is even worse than their judgement.
That to me is much more of a story than what some dipshit on twitter thinks.
I agree with all of Darleen’s comments, as with as with LBascom and Mike G.
Nothing can wash away the stain of Dorner’s guilt – nothing.
I’m fairly new in commenting here, so I normally wouldn’t offer the following, but I think an exception is called for: Fuck You, Happy.
pickles!
I’m so looking forward to his capture and subsequent trial. Another OJ circus in the offing. Won’t that be fun?
Speaking of offing, how much you want to bet that the spectre of OJ is in the forefront of every cop’s mind in California? His best chance is to get to Venezuela. Perhaps Danny Glover would help him with that. Sean Penn, Ollie Stone, Ed Asner, lotsa folks who would be down wit the struggle. Right on brutha!
@Blake
My apologies if I insinuated that you had called Dorner a hero. I was just making the point that what Dorner is doing is no different than what the Taliban or Hamas or Al Qaeda does, which is pure unadulterated terrorism.
As far as corruption in big city police forces, even small town and county law enforcement agencies aren’t immune to the influences of corruption. The big cities just get more press when they get caught.
I think the only killing was by the psycho, the others were wounded. Not that it changes your point…
Ever since Columbine I’ve been of the opinion law enforcement has a greater ratio of cowards than just about any group out there. They act like they have the most dangerous job ever, but really they’re about 8th or 9th, below construction and mining. Crab fishing is most dangerous I think, but they don’t get parades and 21 gun saluted when they die.
The Truth About Dorner: Leftism Is Violence
Farming is about twice as dangerous as being a cop I think.
If I had the keys to the ban hammer you’d be gone.
Not even in the top ten…
The average 17 year old girl working at the 7-11; ten times braver than the cops shooting at the Asian ladies delivering newspapers…
my friend P went to big bear this weekend he says it’s like ten degrees and he had to stop and get chains for his tires
he said he had a shuriken with him for in case of he met anyone with murderous intent
i need to google for to see if it’s legal to carry those things around
i’m sure not this is california
Best thing you can do when scared of a psycho is tell’em his victim deserved it. ‘Cuz of the corruption inherent in the system and Beyonce.
i have no fear of this Mr. Dorner person really
the LAPD on the other hand I keep a very respectful distance from
for all her faults beyonce is still just a nice hard-working texas girl what done good at the end of the day I think
I’m not watching her HBO thing or whatever though
The only reason several innocent people have been killed is that the accuracy is even worse than their judgement.
Yeah that was supposed to be a haven’t.
Beyond that I am out of here, this thread looks like something out of the DU.
they were doing fine Mr. moe right up til someone Questioned Teh Narrative then oh my goodness
Questioning Teh Narrative
Sounds more like the assertions of a dick, than truth. But maybe it’s just me (and DU, whomever that is.).
I don’t always say stuff in the goodest way Mr. lee it’s my cross to bear
WTF – Bulletgate? Why A Difference? Print Media VS. Video Media in LAPD “accidental shooting”.
You’ve been hanging out at a blog devoted to truth in language for an awfully long time to use that excuse.
Plus, Beyonce is a useful idiot in the culture war, but to be fair, her husband is her handler. HE probably has more influence on the Obama administration than the state department.
It’s the way America rolls these days….
ok what excuse do you suggest?
I suggest you acquaint yourself to the truth, and stick with it. You can’t go wrong, right?
i thought i was truthful enough in my own way just maybe a little toe steppy
You know they guy who’s daughter was shot dead is a piece of shit? You know he has a bad record representing his clients? You know Darleen is ignorant of the facts in evidence?
I’m having trouble finding any truth in your “questioning the narrative”.
ok what excuse do you suggest?
– It wouldn’t really matter. You’d say something cute to try to win back a few more days of being tolorated before launching another discordent comment, and the scene would start all over again.
– You seem to have an intense need to be Peeka-hammered every now and then to prove you still exist…..or something.
Lee
Griefer divined The Truth from the crumbs of buttertarts swirled with grease dripped from a Pink’s hotdog
Facts? Morality? Pffffft that SO not hip.
From what I’ve seen the effing press is practically cheering this asshole along just like they did the Unibomber and the Beltway sniper.
you know who’s happy from his head to his feet over this i bet Ward Churchill is who
the beltway sniper was the one they tried to pretend wasn’t terrorism
but it was textbook
ok darleen the truth to which I appeal is the truth that the LAPD is not entitled to the benefit of the doubt and that is some come to jesus gospel truth right there sister
I don’t doubt that you were being truthful about reporting on those feelings of yours. But those feelings of yours are repugnant, is pretty much the story here.
So I would just like to, politely and in a non-toe-steppy way, invite you to fuck off.
Griefer
One more time … LAPD corruption or not is a non-issue here. They could be as corrupt as NYPD of the 70’s yet it does not excuse evil maniac Dorner’s execution of a basketball coach, her fiance and a cop on patrol who wasn’t even looking for him.
I’m hoping his soul is merrily burning in hell right now and his frozen body is found come spring. I piss on his memory.
BTW I think it’s been made very clear at least once in this thread that this isn’t about the LAPD, regardless of how evil they are. And the one using LAPD’s evilness as a valid reason for killing people who are not LAPD is you.
Which makes you a dick. So, there’s reason number 817 why you’re a dick, right there. Or maybe it’s 818; I have kind of lost count, not to mention interest.
Not even that nice officer Mareno in south Compton who saved a kitten that one time, and eats the most diverse of foods in the whole city?
‘Cuz officer Mareno of the LAPD never shot anybody, and’s as honest as the day is long…
How can you be worried about police corruption when there are people posting stupid shit on facebook, happyfeet!
i can’t get worked up about it either way
I’m locked out of my facebook account cause I can’t remember happy’s birthday
It’s hard to get worked up over guys killing the evil offspring of evil LAPD when there are Sarah Palins sapping our precious
bodily fluidsstaunchness.Everything’s on Facebook now, so I guess Ms. Clinton had it right. What does it matter?!
Mr. slart i don’t really have an emotional umbilical cord what connects me to whatever it is on any given day cable tv news decides is the mas importante
Mr. lee my new boss told me I had to get a linkedin and that was his first lesson in how I don’t do everything I’m told
social media is creepy and weird
MikeG., Dorner claims to be at war and you equate his methods to the Taliban.
Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden spring to mind.
Anyway, I’m not saying Dorner is not a nutjob. I’m merely trying to point out that Dorner thinks he’s in a total war with attendant brutality.
The whole thing is interesting, in a macabre sort of way, as Dorner is showing goverment exactly what will happen if you get people with guns mad at government. Dorner is single-handedly sucking up huge amounts of resources.
Those who claim there’s no way citizens with guns can stand up to government have just been proven wrong.
Of course, government will learn exactly the wrong lesson and push even harder to take away guns.
Dorner is showing government exactly what will happen if you get people with guns mad at government
I never got too worked up at the dude what flew his plane into the irs building either
I’m really not getting something here. We’re wrong, apparently, to be upset about people cheering on a murderer instead of being upset about the LAPD being a whole blue-uniformed army of fail.
Where did the “instead” part come from?
In past threads there’s been all kinds of comment on the LAPD shooting up innocent people because their trucks happened to look like Dorner’s. This thread is about a related but different thing, another facet of the story.
Seems to me we’re allowed to talk about these things from more than one angle. Usually it’s trolls (and griefers) who don’t like us doing that.
Just wanted to put that out there.
maybe you ‘re not wrong per se Mr. McGehee but it’s odd to see team conservative try to exploit murder for political gain so soon after the whole newtown thing
Modified to increase accuracy.
you don’t know humans very well really
Where is the exploitation?
I guess it’s on cable news. Whatever that is.
i don’t see why the people cheering Dorner are leftists per se anymore than the wackadoodle 911 troofers were leftists per se
leftists like to redistribute shit and put people on food stamps
I’m not seeing that here
Of course you don’t. You only see conservatives exploiting the situation by noticing the ones cheering on the psycho.
It’s all very staunch.
For me it was when you had to grieve for the father and daughter,” instead” of just grieving for the daughter and reserving judgement on the father.
You don’t have to grieve for anyone if you don’t want to. We were talking about how fucked up it was for people to cheer on a murderer, and for him to call the father of the woman he murdered to taunt him.
Apparently some think they deserved it or something. Maybe on DU, I’m not sure…
– The Internets true name is Anarchy. Commit that to memory. It helps a little to remember that. As a result, it brings out the worst in humanity because they can, which is always a recipe for insanity.
The internet is many things, and not all anarchic, not by a long shot.
The Internets true name is Anarchy
I like that.
And social media is spyware.
– The vast majority of internet activity goes unregulated, which is its strength and its weakness. Given unfettered oportunities people will often do the worst. Human nature.
I wonder if shooter dude can be charged with a hate crime since Ms. Quan was Asian?
+p
– Well shooter dude seems to have gone to ground as they say in hunting. Probably some pre-planned redoubt, which kills any chance for an insanity plea, what with all the planning this crusade must have taken.
– Best chance of finding him is someone stumbles across his hideyhole purely by accident.
Nah, they obviously mistook her for a 300 pound black guy.
T’wasn’t hate, but stupidity and cowardice what shot the newspaper lady.
Unless…
Was that an assault paper in her hand?!
Dorner is killing people because he lost his job. Even if it was the bestest job even and losing it was the most unfair thing no one sane kills people because they lost a job. Dorner is a crazy evil fuck and whatever happened at the BOR isn’t something to kill over. Those cheering him on are drinking of the same evil.
Evil and crazy however don’t have to be joined with stupid, though it is better if they are. If Christopher Jordan Dorner is the usual fucked up evil crazy he’ll turn up, or be made, dead soon. If he isn’t the usual stupid crazy and his screed is what he is really about this is going to get worse maybe a lot worse. He’s had about 4 years to think and plan this out. That is worrisome.
Because they are.
Lee, Monica Quan is the first person Dorner killed, unless it was her black fiance, in which case she was second. That should teach those LAPD racists a thing or two, huh?
Fixed.
I don’t come here much and am not part of your community. I will say this. Crappyfeet was a dispicable self centered lame asshole 5 years ago and he/it’s worse now.
dad wally’s giving me the business
Because they are.
I’m sure some of them are but cheering on a figure like Dorner doesn’t really resonate with the left’s profound respect for state authority
Cognitive dissonance is the normal state of affairs for the left.
the left hardly has a lock on that though
the “right” nominated romney and mccain remember
That’s true. If we mean the center-left Republican establishment when we say “the ‘right.'”
wow that’s like a rorschach test Mr. Pablo
I don’t know what “the right” really means anymore to be honest Mr. Ernst
I’m convinced half of this new found support for Dorner is a result of his manifesto, in which he praised Obama, leftism, government and a bunch of assholes on CNN. I mean, an oppressed guy that loves Obama- there must be some good in him, right? All murdering aside, the guy took the time to complement Michelle Obama’s new hairstyle. That was nice, right?
He’s basically your typical leftist, with the only exception being is that he is apparently not frightened of guns.
As long as they are in what he considers to be the right hands, his hands in his case, the left is slightly more expansive as they like them only in government hands.
Oh, my bad. I thought she was talking about one of the other asian ladies one of the other police officers shot for no good reason.
The newspaper delivery ladies were Mexican, Lee. Delivering the news that American kids won’t do.
Mike G, you might want to discuss that with Generals Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan. Just sayin’.