February 9, 2013

Dr. Benjamin Carson Addresses National Prayer Breakfast, Criticizes Obamacare [Darleen Click]

I’m thinking we start a pool on how long it takes the IRS or DOJ to start an investigation of this apostate.

The first part is about the PC police, Tocqueville and his personal story.

At about the 19:00 mark Dr. Carson starts criticizing the tax code:

What about our taxation system? So complex! There is no one who can possibly comply with every jot and tittle of our tax system. If I wanted to get you, or you, I could get you on a tax issue. That doesn’t make any sense.

What we need to do is come up with something simple. And when I pick up my Bible, you know what I see? I see the fairest individual in the universe, God, and he’s given us a system. It’s called a tithe.

We don’t necessarily have to do 10% but it’s the principle. He didn’t say if your crops fail, don’t give me any tithe or if you have a bumper crop, give me triple tithe. So there must be something inherently fair about proportionality. You make $10 billion, you put in a billion. You make $10 you put in one. Of course you’ve got to get rid of the loopholes. Some people say, ‘Well that’s not fair because it doesn’t hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy who made 10.’ Where does it say you’ve got to hurt the guy? He just put a billion dollars in the pot. We don’t need to hurt him. It’s that kind of thinking that has resulted in 602 banks in the Cayman Islands. That money needs to be back here building our infrastructure and creating jobs.

At about 21:00 on healthcare:

Here’s my solution: When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account to which money can be contributed — pretax — from the time you’re born ’til the time you die. When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you’re 85 years old and you got six diseases, you’re not trying to spend up everything. You’re happy to pass it on and there’s nobody talking about death panels.

Number one. And also, for the people who were indigent who don’t have any money we can make contributions to their HSA each month because we already have this huge pot of money. Instead of sending it to some bureaucracy, let’s put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care.

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  1. here is a link where you can give a buck or two for to help Mr. Dr. Carson make a better america

  2. This guy is brilliant. America needs more Dr. Carson.

  3. It’s the table flipping, in the mode of his model, more than his speechifying, that takes the cake. Of course, as he reflects further on the consequences that ancient table flipping aroused (and he does: “And now, before I get shot, let me finish here.”), any IRS investigation is the least of his concerns.

  4. Of course, he’s already preempted that line of attack in the speech.

    What about our taxation system? So complex there is no one who can possibly comply with every jot and tittle of our tax system. If I wanted to get you, I could get you on a tax issue. That doesn’t make any sense.

  5. During the Obamacare debate, everybody talked on-and-on about how “we’re paying for them in the emergency room anyway!” so Obamacare was a better way to pay.

    They’re wrong. I’ll tell you how they could have fixed this… and far more easily/cheaply. If we’ve decided, as a society, that nobody is going to be turned away from an ER in an emergency (and since EMTALA in 1986, that’s been true), then paying for it should draw the shortest distance between two points. A couple of things:

    1. Shield emergency care from malpractice for all but cases of malice, or truly egregious breach of the standard of care. That should be done anyway, particularly since they’re forcing doctors and hospitals to provide the care.

    2. Make emergency care tax-deductible (at something resembling medicare rates) for the doctor and the hospital, just like any other “charitable contribution.”

    Those two things would bring specialists back to ER call-lists, and encourage doctors and hospitals to take on more indigent care. The paperwork burden would be minimal… submit your form and documentation on Apr 15, done.

    However, the class-warriors would never do it, because it would mean that evil/rich/greedy doctors would get more money.

  6. However, the class-warriors would never do it, because it would mean that evil/rich/greedy doctors would get more money.

    – See, agitprop and the Big Lie™ really do work on the low info electorate, at least in the short run. The Left doesn’t give a flying fuck about the evil/rich/greedy. Thats just the flavor of the year boogyman.

    – No, the reason they’ll never do anything, either what you propose or any of the good doctors suggestions, or anything in the way of common sense is control. All the inequities and screw jobs and backwards thinking in the present system is all about controlling the people and the flow of money/wealth.

    – Which is what happens when the central government grows too big to manage. That is what the founders were trying so hard to preclude. But no fears. The system will ultimately collapse in on itself, and then things will come full circle.

  7. Watch Obama’s reaction all through the speech. Most of the time he doesn’t look pleased, perhaps the look of someone who realizes he’s in the presence of someone smarter and wiser than himself.

    Starting a little bit after the 7:00 mark, Dr. Carson starts talking about his mother and that she discovered that his father was a bigamist. I don’t know if Stanley Anne Durham knew that Barack Obama Sr. was a bigamist, but her son certainly knows now. Then Dr. Carson talks about how he had one thing that saved him, a mother who believed in him. Compare that to how Obama’s own mother pretty much abandoned him, leaving her parents to raise him. Some interesting psychodynamics going on there.

  8. Iowahawk Tweet of the Day :

    Colbert making Bush squirm at WH press dinner: brave hero of dissent. Dr Ben Carson making Obama squirm at WH pray bkfast: rude pig .

    Actually, it was one of several zingers. He was on a roll today.

  9. Then Dr. Carson talks about how he had one thing that saved him, a mother who believed in him. Compare that to how Obama’s own mother pretty much abandoned him, leaving her parents to raise him.

    And Stanley was an educated, worldly woman while Ma Carson was an illiterate, dirt poor housekeeper. Ma Carson did the better job.

  10. propaganda slut kirsten powers says Dr. Carson is uppity and rude

    well I say he’s not

  11. But Michelle has bangs, which should reassure the multitudes.

  12. if you say bangs in a public school you can get dispended

  13. “dispended” is a very happyfeets word that is sensible like happyfeets

  14. “I have a Nug, and I’m not afraid to use it *Gnab, gnab!*”

    – So the LBmediots couldn’t hide Dorners true nature and ideology, so here comes the defense.
    – Just like clockwork. I’m waiting for the day when the first Lefturd news operation gets leveled when some pissed off citizen has finally had enough propaganda..

  15. Imagine the obozo anger. This guy is a person of substance and accomplishment, unlike obozo who just got hauled up the greased pole through skin color and BS.

  16. But Michelle has bangs, which should reassure the multitudes.

    I know I’m reassured.

    Most of the time he doesn’t look pleased, perhaps the look of someone who realizes he’s in the presence of someone smarter and wiser than himself.

    yes, this. And someone who got ahead in life not through contacts, and bs, but through actual ACCOMPLISHMENT.

    Obama was probably a seething ball of hate during his speech.

  17. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “Carson was rude” meme originated with the little god-king himself.

  18. Little god-king had a twitchy middle finger when he was wiping his sweaty brow with middle and fourth fingers.

  19. Bones, as long as an ER can order CT’s and labs out the whazoo for whatever excuse it wants to use, and its hospital is getting reimbursed for most of them, WITHOUT the patient having any say or immediate fiduciary responsibility, the insanity will continue.

    I see patients every week in my FQHC who went to the ER, had THOUSANDS of dollars billed to them (since they had no insurance) for workups I could do for a tenth of the price for urgent (in the eye of the patient) but not emergency problems. The patients go because they know they don’t even have to make a copay to be seen. I have same day appointments open almost every day, so access isn’t the problem.

    Carson hits the nail square – when the patient is responsible for putting out their health care dollars, and when they’re gone, they’re gone, THEN they have motivation to either spend wisely, stay healthy, or just say to hell with it and party until they die because no one else is going to pay for their sins.

  20. OT, but I think many of us warned this fellow that he was out of control.

    Live life outside a courtroom like a belligerent prosecutor, better have a private judge on watch to remind you when to rein it in.

  21. Am I to gather there’s something going on with somebody I ‘ve quit reading?

  22. His mind is dirty but his hands are clean.

  23. Epador:

    I wouldn’t judge if I were you; you’re held to a different standard of care in a private office. Do you think those of us in the ER actually WANT to spend all that money on tests that we know are probably going to be low-yield? Hell no… but combine the pressures of Press-Ganey scores, HCAHPS, and the Trial Bar, and you get rampant overtesting.

    Ever been sued? I have… I’m five years into a case right now… and I’ve had other close calls too. In EVERY SINGLE CASE, I made a reasonable clinical decision to not do test X, Y, or Z… and in EVERY SINGLE CASE, I was raked over the coals by some attorney for not doing so. Every single one of those incidents has changed my practice, and NOT in the direction of cost-control. Give up five years of YOUR life defending yourself, and then come talk to me about my “insanity.”

    I’m not judged by a jury of my peers, and neither are you… and if you don’t know that, you’d better learn it damned quickly. I’m judged by a jury of laymen who may or may not understand indications, medical decision-making, risk-benefit analyses, and cost-constraints.

    I’m held to a zero-defect standard, and spend a ludicrous amount of money trying to meet that standard. If I didn’t have a legal gun held to my head, I’d practice very differently, and much more efficiently.

    But that’s not going to happen, because Americans have decided that everybody deserves a good outcome, and if not, they’ll get their pound-o-flesh in court. Vengeance is mine, sayeth the patient (and their attorneys). And if that’s the game (and it IS…), I’m going to preemptively defend myself, even if it involves spending boatloads of the patients’ money (and the insurance/govts money).

    What I will not accept is a govt/society that demands I be responsible for saving money, but also wants to hang me at high noon for the inevitable misses that a minimalist philosophy of care will create.

    F*ck that. I’ll retire first.

  24. Bones, I can’t count the number of really good docs who feel exactly the same way. No one can afford to spend the kind of money they have to on malpractice insurance, even in a group practice. Especially if your practice carries a lot of risks such as Obstetrics or oncology.

  25. I don’t mind my med-mal premiums as much as I mind the untenable position that societal expectations, trial lawyers, and our fiscal realities have placed me in.

    “No, doctor… we’re not going to admit that patient to the hospital. Also, you can’t order this, that, or the other thing… but it’s totally on you if anything goes badly because of that! Thanks for being society’s safety net!”

    Yeah. If they think they’re going to balance the medicare/’caid budget on the backs of physicians’ malpractice premiums, they’ve got another thing coming.

  26. Expectations are indeed completely unrealistic. Sometimes heroic measures are best left to television and overwrought novels.

    I had one doc tell me that things were a lot easier back in the day when his dad was practicing. Patients knew you were making it up as you went along (even with all the technology available today, a lot medicine is still guess work) and that you were doing the best that could be done for them and their loved ones.

  27. F*ck that. I’ll retire first.

    Seems there’s a lot of that going around. I can’t wait until we’re importing all of our Docs from the subcontinent. Bloody good show.

  28. OT, but I think many of us warned this fellow that he was out of control.

    I would afford that particular lunatic precisely the weight of the smallest grain of salt you can lay hands on and no more.

  29. Fouad Ajami can join Dr. Carson, then they can watch one another’s backs.

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