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“8,753,935: Workers on Disability Set Another Record in July; Exceed Population of 39 States”

America:  “I’ve declined and fallen and I can’t get up!”

The number of workers taking federal disability insurance payments hit yet another record in July, increasing to 8,753,935 during the month from the previous record of 8,733,461 set in June, according to newly released datafrom the Social Security Administration.

The 8,753,935 workers who took federal disability insurance payments in July exceeded the population of 39 of the 50 states. Only 11 states—California, Texas, New York, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina and New Jersey—had more people in them than the number of workers on the federal disability insurance rolls in July.

Virginia, the twelfth most-populous state, had 8,096,604 people in 2011, according to the latest Census Bureau estimate. That would make Virginia’s population about 657,331 less than the number of workers who took federal disability insurance payments in July.

Congress enacted legislation in 1956 to add federal disability insurance to the Social Security system. Over the decades, the number of Americans actually working has dramatically declined relative to the number claiming federal disability insurance payments.

By July 1967, there 74,520,000 Americans actually working and 1,145,663 workers taking disability payments. That made a ratio of 65 actual workers for each worker collecting disability. In July 1987, there were 112,634,000 people actually working and 2,759,852 people collecting disability—a ratio of about 41 actual workers to each worker collecting disability.

When President Barack Obama took office in January 2009, there were 142,187,000 people actually working  and 7,442,377 workers collecting disability—a ratio of about 19 to 1.

In June, there were 142,415,000 people actually working and 8,733,461 workers claiming disability—a ratio of about 16 to 1.

The takers have just about entrenched themselves permanently into the majority.  Can we really wait another several election cycles hoping the GOP wakes up?

174 Replies to ““8,753,935: Workers on Disability Set Another Record in July; Exceed Population of 39 States””

  1. Car in says:

    I read a suggestion, with no back-up supporting link, that in England it sounded so much better politically to have “disabled” folks rather than unemployed. I wonder if this is the tactic.

    It’s been suggested that the roles are increased because people are unemployed and figure going this route is their best option, currently. But I wonder if there have been any behind the scene changes that could have made this happen.

    Or does no one really care about the disability crises we are facing? You’d think someone would be interested enough to investigate.

  2. Car in says:

    roles – rolls. as in SSD rolls.

    Or jelly rolls.

  3. George Orwell says:

    And they’re off… Food stamps are winning this race, with one out of seven Americans eating off of the dole. Disability is bravely struggling to catch up. This is an exciting race, folks! It’s nectar and neck brace! Think how exciting it will be when every American has an EBT card and a hoveround!

  4. Enrak says:

    Between disability and TANF the average worker is fully supporting their family and 1 additional person.

    (142m workers, 8.7m disability, 4.4m TANF)

    Oddly, according to my math, the average worker only spent $234 in 2011 on TANF.

    Source acf.hhs.gov

  5. William says:

    The worst you can have is people sucking up money while being only engaged enough in life to order delivery in front of their TV and believing that they’re protected because “No body dare be mean to me! I’m a human being! I done be suffering!”

    Oh, good. That’s what we have. Yay.

  6. Enrak says:

    Another $5,131 for disability in FY 2011.

    Source ssa.gov

  7. Enrak says:

    Lastly, this represents about ~9% of the median family income in 2009.

    Source census.gov

  8. George Orwell says:

    Since philosopher-king John Roberts the Just has determined the Crown can tax you for inactivity, can it tax you for disability as well? The Crown taxes you for being able-bodied, and taxes you for being idle. Hell, it just owns your asses, in effect. You are its property. Boy.

  9. dicentra says:

    Or from Steyn: “In the last three years, 2.6 million Americans have signed on with new employers, but 3.1 million have signed on for disability checks.”

    Pursuant to more Steyn:

    The Golden Gate Bridge? As Reason’s Matt Welch pointed out, the Golden Gate cost at the time $35 million — or about $530 million today. So, for the cost of Obama’s 2009 stimulus bill alone, we could have had 1,567 Golden Gate Bridges. Where are they? Where are, say, the first dozen? If you laid 1,567 Golden Gate Bridges end to end, you’d have enough for one Golden Choom Bridge stretching from Obama’s Punahou High School in Honolulu over the Pacific all the way to his Occidental College in Los Angeles, so that his car-chooming chums can commute from one to the other without having to worry about TSA patdowns.

    and

    Millions of Americans have looked at the road ahead, and figured it goes nowhere. Best to pull off into the Social Security parking lot. Don’t worry, it’s not your fault. As the president would say, you didn’t build the express check-in to the Disability Office. Government built it, and, because they built it, you came.

  10. dicentra says:

    Can we really wait another several election cycles hoping the GOP wakes up?

    Wake up? They’re not asleep. They know exactly what they’re doing, and we’re the fools who think that their apparent spinelessness owes to ignorance or lack of vision.

    Please.

    Lucy draws back the football in full knowledge that Charlie Brown will go Whump! on his back.

    That’s why she does it, yo. She also knows that old Chuck will always come back for more. It’s not the GOP that’s asleep, it’s us.

  11. sdferr says:

    Just a couple of days ago I saw a tv commercial for a company which exists solely for the purpose of finding a way to put “you” — any “you” listening to the commercial, we can take it — onto the disability rolls of the US government. Such a commonplace constitutes, for ordinary purposes, the state of the nation.

  12. dicentra says:

    Sweeet.

    Michael Mann, upon being accused of being the “Jery Sandusky of climate science” by Steyn on NRO, is suing NRO for defamation of character.

    Go, Steyn, Go.

  13. Squid says:

    I’ve never been so proud of my alma mater. Good Lord, what happened to that place?

  14. leigh says:

    You graduated, Squid. They had nothing to cling to.

  15. newrouter says:

    Michael Mann, upon being accused of being the “Jery Sandusky of climate science”

    well he did bugger the data

  16. dicentra says:

    well he did bugger the data

    Read the comment thread on the Steyn post and despair.

    Never seen such an infestation of Leftist scum and villainy.

  17. Squid says:

    I’m still looking for a “Vatican of the Big Ten” sweatshirt. It’s like the Rhymesayers say: When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold!

  18. BigBangHunter says:

    – How’s that Boooooosssh narrative working out for you?

  19. Squid says:

    Jeff is on disability.

    That’s only because he tried to lift his house one-handed and wound up tweaking his thumb.

  20. White man from town says:

    I remember that, Squid.

    It was heartbreaking.

  21. Blitz says:

    OT ( as per usual ) but why are all the comments numbered “1” ? Every link I hit , when I return it goes back to the top of the thread.

  22. Squid says:

    Overheard on local sports radio, and too good not to share:

    You probably heard that Penn State took down the statue of Joe Paterno that stood outside the stadium, but you probably didn’t hear where it went. The statue was moved to the university library, where it will serve as a stern reminder to everybody to keep their mouths shut!

    I laugh to keep from crying.

  23. geoffb says:

    One thing that pushes people to try for disability is that the only way to discharge your student loan debt is to be declared permanently disabled. Loose standards on what constituted disability have made this an option even though being disabled isn’t an automatic loan discharge.

  24. cranky-d says:

    OT: A.B. Stoddard is spreading stupidity about guns on the FauxNewz panel.

    They seem to be saying that people can buy guns online without any checks or something. Plus, she thinks that no one uses an AR-15 for home defense which is pure BS.

    According to their opinion, I should likely be investigated for my ammo purchases, because, I guess, no one needs that much ammunition.

    Time to buy some more.

  25. cranky-d says:

    I forgot, the issue was people with thousands of rounds of ammo are likely terrorists.

  26. newrouter says:

    A.B. Stoddard is spreading stupidity about guns on the FauxNewz panel.

    though it is a stupid device someone should use the “chicken hawk” ploy: if you never own a gun you can’t opine on guns.

  27. cranky-d says:

    Or the side issue was.

  28. cranky-d says:

    How about, if you’re going to opine on guns you should at least shoot a few of them. There would be a bonus in that many people who are anti-gun turn pro-gun after actually experiencing how fun it is to shoot.

  29. cranky-d says:

    Those who are ostensibly on “our side” disappoint way too often.

  30. newrouter says:

    yea that works too. i wish that there were a way to show these talkheads are ignorant on many of the topics they opine on.

  31. Mike LaRoche says:

    Bill O’Reilly is also basically retarded when it comes to gun control.

  32. sdferr says:

    It’s relatively safe to say Bill O’Reilly is basically retarded on every subject. Or, at least, I’m content to go with that.

  33. Jeff G. says:

    Sorry, looks like RD/sinister/Conrad/etc., signed up for yet another email address so he could bypass the integrity of the registration system and post his suggestions that I don’t really have a family and I live off the government.

    — Though I am a kike. That part is true.

  34. Abe Froman says:

    The only thing O’Reilly has going for him is that he’s slightly less retarded than Hannity.

  35. leigh says:

    Hmm. I thought you were a hebe? Didn’t he call you that, as well?

  36. BigBangHunter says:

    – Thats alright Jeff. Some of my best friends are kikes and kikettes.

  37. B Moe says:

    I have to take your word for that, Abe. I have an old analog retardometer that isn’t very accurate at those levels.

  38. newrouter says:

    baracky & the vets

    Obama said he had kept his promise to uphold “America’s sacred trust with our veterans” including hiring thousands more claims processors at the VA.

    “For the first time ever, we’ve made military families and veterans a top priority not just at DOD, not just at the VA, but across the government,” he said.

    “Where we still have more to do, we will not rest,” Obama said. “That’s my vow to you. I’ve got your back. I’ve got your six.”

    link

  39. newrouter says:

    I have an old analog retardometer that isn’t very accurate at those levels.

    try calibrating it when bor is doing his big oil speil

  40. palaeomerus says:

    “– Though I am a kike. That part is true.”

    I’m 75% ‘squat lowlands brutal’ type kraut. The rest is swiss french and scotch irish n’ shit.
    That means I yell at my family and they yell back and I like smoked meat too much. It might make me a beer swiller but I REALLY severely cut that stuff back so I could have more time with soda- pop. I also like zesty tomato sauce.

    There are no major ethnic slurs for my kind because no one ever gave a half a crap about us. Nor do I blame them for their lack of interest. The family got kicked out of Prussia politely in the late 1880’s and shipped off to go be a pain in some other landlord classes ass. We went to New Sweden (near Manor Texas) and around 1950 most of us headed for the cities and suburbs. I was born in 71 in Austin as part of Gen X the “who gives a damn, and I’m really tired of hearing about the freaking 60’s ” generation. I like .mp3’s way better than the tapes I had as a kid.

  41. BigBangHunter says:

    “I’ve got your back. I’ve got your six.”

    – Isn’t he just to kool for words?

    – Glad you’ve got my six dickhead, but the towels are coming in from your nine.

  42. Abe Froman says:

    There are no major ethnic slurs for my kind because no one ever gave a half a crap about us.

    About the worst thing you can do to a man is call him a Texan.

  43. palaeomerus says:

    I don’t get the hatred for jews and poles. They seem like nice dependable folks to me. I don’t see a high incidence of assholes to individuals in either group. Seems to me that bohunks are the real enemy. And even then its nothing to fight about.

  44. newrouter says:

    i’ve got your 18 holes

  45. newrouter says:

    bohunks are the real enemy.

    is it because of the pierogis ?

  46. palaeomerus says:

    “About the worst thing you can do to a man is call him a Texan.”

    I have empirical evidence to the contrary. It’s called Illinois.

  47. BigBangHunter says:

    – Baracky, he really likes him dat CIC gig, especially the drones. Man thats just some kool shit right there.

  48. BigBangHunter says:

    – Hey now, call me a commie jew, but lay off my pierogis.

  49. Abe Froman says:

    I’ve witnessed a lot of anti-semitic talk in my life, but anti-Polish? Polish jokes used to be big, but they were like a kissing cousin to Italian jokes. More or less benign.

  50. palaeomerus says:

    Pierogis are a Polish thing. Bohunks probably just stole the idea. Of course so did I.

  51. Abe Froman says:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that there’s no such thing as Polish food, Jewish food, Czech food or whatever. Just Eastern European shit that everyone takes credit for. Except Ghoulash. Hungary seems to own that.

  52. palaeomerus says:

    Who came up with Polenta? That stuff is awful. I had to eat it to be polite too. I still have nightmares. It’s like a tamale casing melted on a plate on top of some garlic.

  53. BigBangHunter says:

    – Yeh, they stole them from us Russki’s.

  54. Abe Froman says:

    Ghoulash doesn’t look right, but I don’t care. I can’t spell baba ghanoush either.

  55. Abe Froman says:

    I love polenta. Eat at better restaurants, dude.

  56. palaeomerus says:

    Ghoulash should be made from on only the freshest ghouls.

    In my house just about ANY casserole type dish was called a ghoulash. Tuna helper is a ghoulash. Our culinary ignorance prior to the internet was astounding.

  57. palaeomerus says:

    “Czech food or whatever.”

    Bohunk Chow. Use the proper terminology.

  58. Abe Froman says:

    My mother – from Minnesota – calls everything a hot dish.

  59. palaeomerus says:

    Yes, you Wends are all bohunks too. Just because you comb your hair and tuck in your shirts you think we won’t know what you are, but we do! You guys built some nice churches in Thorndale, TX though so there is hope for ya.

  60. BigBangHunter says:

    – Kulitch, pot cheese, and Borscht, but what I miss most is the sausage.

  61. palaeomerus says:

    Okay, I’m tired of pretending that I hate bohunks and hold them in collective contempt now. They seem like nice people too.

  62. cranky-d says:

    “Hot dish” is Minnesotan for goulash.

  63. palaeomerus says:

    Well that sounds like our goulash but we use macaroni instead of potatoes. Actually we do a scalloped potato version come to think of it.

  64. BigBangHunter says:

    – Theres only one place I know of here in San Diego where you can get the authentic fresh made sausage. Its a Orthadox church, and its hard to get to because of its location. Haven’t had any for too many years.

  65. newrouter says:

    as a member of the bohunk community i don’t give two sh&ts about what you call thinking

  66. palaeomerus says:

    “bohunk community”

    That’s not what you call a bunch of bohunks. A bunch of bohunks are a parade.

  67. palaeomerus says:

    Or open mike night at the coffee house.

  68. palaeomerus says:

    Open mic? Yeah, that looks better.

  69. palaeomerus says:

    Don’t sit to close to Open Mike. If he thinks you care he’ll spill his guts.

  70. Abe Froman says:

    In college I tended bar at a Hungarian (Hunky) Club, and the wedding parties made me feel like an extra in The Deer Hunter. Jesus are interior Pennsylvanians hicks. I’m surprised Newrouter has a computer.

  71. palaeomerus says:

    Hungarians aren’t bohunks. Bohemians are. They originated as a people in Moravia and parts of Silesia in the former Czechoslovakia.

  72. Abe Froman says:

    Oh. I assumed that they comprised the “hunk” part.

  73. newrouter says:

    Hungarians aren’t bohunks. Bohemians are.

    dude bo hunks no strovia

  74. newrouter says:

    Hungarians aren’t bohunks. Bohemians are.

    bohunks are eastern europeans except pollacks and jews

  75. palaeomerus says:

    Nope. Bohemians only.

  76. dicentra says:

    Polish jokes used to be big,

    I remember telling Polack jokes by the truckload as a kid. Then when I heard somewhere that “Polack” meant “person from Poland,” I wondered why they’d choose a demonym that was the same as the word in the jokes.

  77. palaeomerus says:

    Hungarians are Mags.

  78. sdferr says:

    Bohunks?

  79. newrouter says:

    I’m surprised Newrouter has a computer.

    actually there’s a site that allows you use the telegraph to browse the internet

  80. Abe Froman says:

    Merriam-Webster disagrees. Vindication!

  81. palaeomerus says:

    Still wrong.

  82. palaeomerus says:

    If you call a Hungarian a bohunk around here they’ll point you to the bohemians and their long hair wire frame glasses and greasy faces.

  83. newrouter says:

    wiki

    Bohunk
    (North America) a person of east-central European descent. Originally referred to those of Bohemian (now Czech Republic) descent. It was commonly used toward Ukrainian immigrants during the early 20th century.[20] See also hunky.

  84. BigBangHunter says:

    – Man, ABC news is doing the goat dance on it’s willie on this Holmes thing, from the git-go.

  85. palaeomerus says:

    Yep. Bohemian.

    Never heard it used for Ukrainians but then I don’t know of any Ukranians around here so it probably just doesn’t come up much.

  86. palaeomerus says:

    Good lord! I clicked on that git-go link and saw a picture of Newt Gingrich having a python dropped on him!

  87. newrouter says:

    here in deer hunter land back in the steel mill days bohunk described eastern europeans in general

  88. palaeomerus says:

    Yeah well, that’s Pennsylvania.

    In Cen-Tex (please God, don’t let people start officially calling my region that) it’s fairly nonsensical to try and hang it on anyone but a Bohemian.
    And even then its a dance hall taunt between farmer’s kids at worst.

  89. leigh says:

    All Pennsylvanians are hicks. It’s like there’s a giant meteor under the surface of the state sucking all the intelligence out of in inhabitants.

    Except Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is also full of hicks, but nice ones. Not the rude douche-y ones on the East Coast side. Especially in Reading.

  90. palaeomerus says:

    I just found out that Sally Ride died of Pancreatic Cancer today at the age of 61.

  91. BigBangHunter says:

    – Yeh you do. Me. Actually Bolla Russia (White Russia/Georgia) but close enough.

  92. leigh says:

    Believe me, I know from hicks. Coming from several generations of tenant farmers (mom’s side) and hard-headed German horse traders (dad’s), I’m either related to hundreds of them or have met them in six or eight states.

  93. newrouter says:

    to try and hang it on anyone but a Bohemian.

    Welcome to http://www.texasczechs.com! To all you lovers of Czech Music and culture, these pages are for you.

    here in hickland we had chunk of eastern europe come to work for mr.s frick,carnegie,westinghouse et al

  94. leigh says:

    Cue the Pennsylvania Polka, nr.

  95. palaeomerus says:

    http://www.texasczechs.com

    Agggh! It burns!

  96. palaeomerus says:

    I can’t believe that Sally Ride died. That makes me feel really old. We don’t even have a shuttle program anymore.

  97. leigh says:

    Paleo, you should work on your Czech accent. You could sound like that sexy Eastern European doctor on ER did. All those buckle bunnies in Austin will think you’re exotic.

  98. BigBangHunter says:

    – ‘Course I’d get thrown out of the clam for saying I was Russki, Geogians just love that.

  99. newrouter says:

    Agggh! It burns!

    apply a pierogi and sour creme

  100. leigh says:

    At least you guys aren’t mainly mutts. I’m half German, half French so I can feel superior to myself. My poor kiddos are more German than I am with some Irish stirred in.

  101. BigBangHunter says:

    – Sally Ride, as in the astronaut – Damn I feel old.

  102. leigh says:

    Sally had pancreatic cancer. She hung in for almost a year after the diagnosis. RIP Sally.

  103. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m half German, half French so I can feel superior to myself. My poor kiddos are more German than I am with some Irish stirred in.

    Your French half isn’t as French as it would have you believe.

  104. leigh says:

    My German half tells my French half to shut up and make it an omelet.

  105. Ernst Schreiber says:

    “Hot dish” is Minnesotan for goulash.

    Hot dish, a traditional Minnesotan main course, hot dish is cooked and served in a single baking dish, and commonly appears at family reunions and church suppers, although it can grace any table. If doesn’t look like anything you’ve ever seen before, it’s probably hot dish.”

  106. B Moe says:

    ABC news is going full nuclear retard over this shit, huh.

  107. LBascom says:

    Boy did this thread go sideways!

    Anyway, I just want to say I’m officially outraged by Di’s Steyn quote: “2.6 million Americans have signed on with new employers, but 3.1 million have signed on for disability checks”. Appalled, that’s me.

    As for hicks, I come from a long line of cattlemen, city people would probably think them hicks. Any one of them had/has more dignity and honor than any twelve of DC’s sophisticated elite.

  108. Abe Froman says:

    Whenever my mother made a hot dish, there was always jell-o served on the same plate, so you’d get some fruity flavor bleeding in. Mmmm…

  109. LBascom says:

    Shoulda refreshed! Hicks for leigh at 7:03…

  110. leigh says:

    You know what, Lee? We hicks will be the ones to survive the coming societal melt-down, what with our resourcefulness, work ethic and survivor skills honed from years of being stone broke.

  111. newrouter says:

    i propose packages of lime jell-o in every ssid check

  112. LBascom says:

    Also, I feel guilty and ashamed for relaying the media story that the theater shooters mom told them they had the right guy. Apparently, they asked if the was ____(insert name), mother of ______(insert name), and she said “yes, you have the right person”.

    Fucking media. I bet he wasn’t a TEA Party guy either…

  113. cranky-d says:

    All I really know is that whenever I describe what my mother (born and raised in South Dakota) called goulash my Minnesotan friend says it’s hot dish. There could be a lot of different things in it, though noodles and mushroom soup were common ingredients.

  114. newrouter says:

    “I bet he wasn’t a TEA Party guy either…”

    FLASHBACK: when Dr. Amy Bishop shot her colleagues, the Left speculated that she was a Tea Partier. In fact, she was an Obama donor.

    FLASHBACK: Discovery Channel hostage-taker was supposedly a climate change denier. In fact, he was an enviroweenie, D.Channel intern.

    FLASHBACK: the census-taker was supposedly hanged by extremist anti-tax Tea Partiers. In fact, he hanged himself.

    FLASHBACK: the Times Square Bomber was speculated to be upset about [Health Care Reform]. In fact, he was jihadi scum.

    FLASHBACK: the guy who flew his plane into the IRS in TX was supposedly a Tea Partier. In fact, he quoted from the Communist Manifesto.

    FLASHBACK: the guy who was stabbing NYC cabbies was supposedly an anti-Ground Zero Mosque Tea Partier. In fact, he supported the GZM.

    link

  115. Abe Froman says:

    Yeah, I definitely remember noodles and mushroom soup being in stuff. My mother used to make all kinds of silly concoctions, though they usually weren’t from scratch. Kind of crafty bastardizations of commercially bought stuff.

  116. Abe Froman says:

    My mother was born in South Dakota, too. Smack dab in the middle of nowhere.

  117. newrouter says:

    Kind of crafty bastardizations of commercially bought stuff.

    campbell’s soup casseroles

  118. newrouter says:

    My mother was born in South Dakota,

    oh noes you got hick blood

  119. cranky-d says:

    My mother was from Gregory, population 4000 or so.

  120. cranky-d says:

    My dad was raised on a farm. Gregory was a big town to him.

  121. Abe Froman says:

    My mother was born in Groton, population 1,400.

  122. Abe Froman says:

    According to Wikipedia, the pop was 946 when she was born.

  123. newrouter says:

    oh my the bitter clinger thread

  124. cranky-d says:

    The population of Gregory in 1930, when my mother was born, was 1034. So, I win.

    I don’t know where I got the 4000 figure, even now only 1295 people live there.

  125. cranky-d says:

    Darnit, you win, Abe.

  126. cranky-d says:

    Though I grew up in San Diego, I have bitter clinger roots.

  127. bh says:

    I’ve heard hot dish before but I thought that was just a way of making sure people weren’t all bringing the same thing. So you’d say, I’m thinking of bringing a hot dish (entree, warm) or a salad or a side or a desert and the other person would say that there was already plenty of hot dishes and deserts expected so maybe you could bring that pasta salad that everyone likes.

    I didn’t know it was actually a thing. That’s a casserole to my peoples.

  128. BigBangHunter says:

    – Looks like the Proggies just lost another sacred cow. Let the rending of clothes and hair pulling commence.

    – Obi to guard: “These are not the WMD’s you are looking for, so we can move along”….

  129. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Whenever my mother made a hot dish, there was always jell-o served on the same plate, so you’d get some fruity flavor bleeding in. Mmmm…

    Not Jell-O, salad.

  130. motionview says:

    There were a few fathers in Cicero who only described other kids by their ethnicities. The Italian Dad: get Johnny and Frankie and that Polack kid and those two Micks and I’ll open the fire hydrant. The Polish dad: pull that bohunk’s father off the Sokol bar stool and get him into Sat night mass – he’ll be drunk till Monday otherwise. The Irish dad: get your brothers, the one wop family from across the alley, and those Polack twins and we’ll play 9 on 9 baseball in the parking lot.

  131. newrouter says:

    baracky lies syrians die for hummus abedin

  132. newrouter says:

    who only described other kids by their ethnicities.

    evil “whites” ignoring victimhood

  133. bh says:

    “Dessert” would probably make more sense above.

  134. LBascom says:

    oh my the bitter clinger thread

    Ha!, My Uncle was an artist! We rented his house in Vivtorville when I was a small lad.

    Make sure you check out the Family Heritage and Art Pedigree at the bottom, hicks…

  135. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I spel like a bohunk.

  136. BigBangHunter says:

    – That ABC bunch of journalist school morons just keep digging the hole. Mosks account of the telephone coversation does not support their contention either, not something a moron trying to hype the story would csre about.

    – Shoving about 98% of the Pravda press into a wood chipper and using the remains as coolant in a nuclear plant might go a long way to cleaning uo the environment.

  137. bh says:

    Oh, that was me above, Ernst, making the classic desert/dessert mistake you’d hope your fourth grader would outgrow.

    By the way, do you guys still like those hot dishes/casseroles? I ate so much of that as a kid I’ve developed a real aversion. Noodles and cream of anything makes me want to go find a large piece of meat to grill.

  138. cranky-d says:

    I used to do the noodles and cream of mushroom soup and meat thing because I’m really lazy, but I haven’t had it for a few years.

  139. Ernst Schreiber says:

    There’s a couple hot dishes we still make. But only when the thermometer drops below 10 degrees or so.

    Of course, chili is considered a hot dish, so there’s that.

  140. LBascom says:

    A casserole, by any other name, is still a hot dish of goulash, ‘cuz of we forgot to take something out of the freezer.

  141. newrouter says:

    Noodles and cream of anything makes me want to go find a large piece of meat to grill.

    heartless what about the “poor” people?

  142. bh says:

    Okay, if chili is a hot dish then, yeah, I’m pretty sure the good German and Scandi people around here are using the term in pretty much the same way.

    It’s not really a casserole then. Casserole would be a subset of hot dish.

  143. Abe Froman says:

    I get the occasional urge for a few of them. Creamed corn mixed with hamburger meat and thrown in the oven topped with mashed potatoes is still pretty tasty. Kind of like Shepherd’s Pie. Generally though, I don’t make that kind of stuff if I’m cooking for myself because I’d have to eat it for a week.

  144. bh says:

    That’s certainly why we ate it, nr. Nothing reminds you of your lean years quite like realizing how the majority of your meals didn’t have any protein. It’s a miracle it didn’t stunt my growth.

  145. BigBangHunter says:

    – Tuna casserole is a subset of the Devil.

  146. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Just to further sidetrack an already side tracked thread, you all know that the reason the east europeans are even dirtier than the typical dirty (west) european is due to the fact that the slavs were the original swamp people, right?

  147. leigh says:

    My mother fried everything. Breaded, deep or shallow fried. And baked a lot of pie.

    Yet, my peoples live long and are skinny while noshing on fried chicken and biscuits with beer or iced tea followed up by cigarettes and many hands of Pinochle.

  148. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Minnesota chili is made with ketchup and eaten with a spoon, bh.

    Just like Bar-Be-Cue and Tack-Os

  149. Abe Froman says:

    I’ve never heard of Minnesota chili. Then again, my mother didn’t know about Minnesota meat raffles until I brought them up.

  150. sdferr says:

    We used to semi-regularly have a tuna-slicedtomato-swisscheese pie in a rice pieshell, topped with a salad dressing of some sort, like the bottled orange french stuff I think. Pretty good vittles, thinking back on it.

  151. leigh says:

    I ordered chili in Indiana once and it was beans and macaroni with hamburger in tomato sauce. I think there was a pinch or chili powder in there.

    There was also a scary salad on the salad bar with multi-colored marshmallows in it.

  152. newrouter says:

    that the slavs were the original swamp people,

    nah the eastern church held on until the western church got going again. victory,winners and other propaganda

  153. cranky-d says:

    I cannot imagine Minnesota Chili. The people here appear to think adding a little pepper makes food too spicy.

  154. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Minnesota chili:

    two cans of beans, any variety (kidney is most common)
    1 pound pulverized meat
    pour into baking dish and cover with ketchup
    heat until warm, salt and pepper to taste. top with cheeze whiz and serve.

  155. BigBangHunter says:

    – Something tells me Diane Sawyer won’t be getting any exclusive enterviews with the Holmws family.

  156. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The swamp people were all pagans, newrouter, until Cyril and Methodius saved their heathen souls.

  157. motionview says:

    Forget Rule 5; guns and ethnic jokes.

  158. BigBangHunter says:

    – Huffpoop made the mistake of posting a couple of articles on the Syrian WMD’s thing, and they’re getting ripped in the comments section by both sides. The right is mocking and laughing at the ‘blind’ progressives, and the Left is totally dispondent because their propaganda organ has betrayed the “invisable WMD’s’ narrative.

  159. Blake says:

    With the way things are going, Hamburger Helper may become a treat. That and its cousin, Tuna Helper.

  160. newrouter says:

    The swamp people were all pagans, newrouter, until Cyril and Methodius saved their heathen souls.

    the collapse of the east This article is about the 1453 siege

    the resistance of the west Battle of Vienna

  161. John Bradley says:

    Minnesota meat raffles

    Sounds like something you’d find on Urban Dictionary… if one were brave enough to look.

    “What is seen cannot be unseen!”

  162. palaeomerus says:

    “Your French half isn’t as French as it would have you believe.”

    Yeah if the French half was in charge she’d have said half French and half Westphalian. I keed, I keed.

  163. cranky-d says:

    No, they actually have meat raffles in bars and the like. I think it’s more popular outside the cities, but my local bar has one every Friday at 4:30 pm.

  164. Car in says:

    I ordered chili in Indiana once and it was beans and macaroni with hamburger in tomato sauce. I think there was a pinch or chili powder in there.

    There was also a scary salad on the salad bar with multi-colored marshmallows in it.

    My ex-sil served a “salad” once that had snicker’s bars in it. She served it WITH dinner.

    She was from Minnesota.

  165. Dale Price says:

    The swamp people were all pagans, newrouter, until Cyril and Methodius saved their heathen souls.

    the collapse of the east This article is about the 1453 siege

    the resistance of the west Battle of Vienna

    If the West hadn’t blackjacked the East in 1204, the Turks don’t get into Europe. There’s a good chance they don’t get all of Anatolia, even.

    Well, spilt milk under the bridge.

  166. Squid says:

    Why is a whisky raffle considered perfectly normal, while a meat raffle is some kind of offense against God and Nature? Here’s the thing, kids: you come home from the VFW with a big chunk of red meat, and your wife ain’t gonna yell at you for being out late.

    Honestly, I don’t understand why meat raffles haven’t taken the nation by storm.

  167. Squid says:

    The thing about Minnesota Chili is not exaggerated. There was a commercial on the radio some years ago, advertising “Cajun Night” at one of our casinos. The waitress in the ad said, “You want that mild, extra-mild, or North Shore style?” Sure, it was meant in jest, but a kernel of truth and all that…

  168. Slartibartfast says:

    My ex-sil served a “salad” once that had snicker’s bars in it.

    Recipe?

    On the hotdish topic: my grandmother had a casserole (she was a Yuper, so no hotdish) that was pretty cool, but it would have been even better with bacon. ‘course, she learned to cook during the Depression, so none of the meats would have any of the fat drained off.

    But she didn’t die of anything cholesterol-related, so there’s that. Nor was it lung cancer, despite her 2-(sometimes 3-)pack-a-day habit.

  169. Ernst Schreiber says:

    If the West hadn’t blackjacked the East in 1204, the Turks don’t get into Europe. There’s a good chance they don’t get all of Anatolia, even.

    Or maybe the Greeks should have just paid this greedy bastard his asking price. Then he wouldn’t have had to go over to the Ottomans.

    They probably should have kept the formula for Greek Fire some place where they could find it again as well.

  170. Dale Price says:

    Or maybe the Greeks should have just paid this greedy bastard his asking price. Then he wouldn’t have had to go over to the Ottomans.

    They probably should have kept the formula for Greek Fire some place where they could find it again as well.

    It would have been nice to pay Orban for cannons, but they were even broker than they are now. Broke the bank getting John VIII out of Venice’s debtor’s prison. Which was a shame, since his son was whip smart, but had to play power politics with a busted flush.

    Greek fire wouldn’t have made a huge difference. Another 7500 troops and a fleet would have.

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