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Quick takes [Darleen Click]

Intended consequences

A Catholic university in Ohio said Tuesday it is being forced to end a student health insurance program over the Obama administration’s contraception mandate and costs associated with other provisions of the health care overhaul.

Mr Tingles meets karma

On at least four occasions, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews mocked Sarah Palin for how he felt she’d do if she were ever on the hit television game show Jeopardy!.

In a delicious example of instant karma, the self-proclaimed brainiac got his chance to show America how smart he was in a special “Power Players” version of the show Monday, but came up quite short finishing dead last with the paltry sum of only $2,300

Elizabeth Warren, Woman of Color

[A] 1997 Fordham Law Review piece described her as Harvard Law School’s “first woman of color,” based, according to the notes at the bottom of the story, on a “telephone interview with Michael Chmura, News Director, Harvard Law (Aug. 6, 1996)

Even a lapdog occassionally nips.

CNN host Ashleigh Banfield ripped into Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt on Tuesday over a campaign ad criticizing Mitt Romney for his record at Bain Capital, telling him to “keep it clean. We hate that crap on television.”

193 Replies to “Quick takes [Darleen Click]”

  1. DarthLevin says:

    Elizabeth Warren, Woman of Color

    To be fair, fishbelly-white-with-a-hint-of-rose is a color.

  2. happyfeet says:

    to be fair we haven’t seen Palin on celebrity jeopardy yet she might could do even worse you never know stranger things have happened

  3. jdw says:

    Damn, but that lady from Nebraska has an unfortunate name!

  4. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Via Glenn Reynolds, passivity on display:

    “Senate Democrats are poised to continue their impressive streak of budgetary negligence on Wednesday by unanimously rejecting as many as five different budgets, including the one offered by President Obama. Republicans, meanwhile, are hoping that voters will pick up on the disturbing trend.”

    Is it the politics that makes for the weak grammar or the grammar that makes for the weak politics?

  5. motionview says:

    Alien invasion. Brooklyn Decker. Full throttle Navy badassery. Things that blow up real good. And a director that tells an interviewer JOIN THE ISRAELI ARMY, MOTHERF**KER!

  6. Car in says:

    to be fair we haven’t seen Palin on celebrity jeopardy yet she might could do even worse you never know stranger things have happened

    that’s irrelevant. Chrissy brought it up, it was his smear an attack on HER intelligence.

    He thought he was being oh so clever. Bit him in the ass.

  7. leigh says:

    Exactly. Matthews is the one proclaiming how he’d kick ass and take names not Palin.

  8. happyfeet says:

    I’ll take political celebrities for 1000 Alex

    Sarah Palin!

    You have to wait for me to ask the question.

    Who is the

    Sarah Palin!

    You are correct! The answer is indeed Sarah Palin.

  9. leigh says:

    Just let it go, happy. I’m no Palin fan but Matthews has been nothing short of obsessed with her and how “stupid” she is. That, and Michele Bachmann’s crazy eyes.

    I think it’s time to float a rumor about how he is impotent.

  10. dicentra says:

    Jeopardy might measure how smart you are, but it mostly measures your ability to recall stuff really fast and how well you work the button.

    Me, I prefer the essay question.

  11. DarthLevin says:

    Exactly. I’m smart enough to know I’d suck at Jeopardy, unless the categories included “Obscure Star Trek References from The Original Series”, “The Best of FORTRAN”, “Comic Books My Mom Threw Away When I Left Home”, and “Name That Hobbit”

  12. Squid says:

    “ ’Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.” –Abe Lincoln

    Good advice, and Chrissy Tingles and the Yellow Cupcake Molester would both be well-served to remember it.

  13. motionview says:

    High water mark. He’s already collapsed; it isn’t evident yet due to the press wing and polls with sampling pulled directly out of Plouffe’s ass. They know he’s falling apart and the smarter/careerists are starting to think about themselves.

  14. motionview says:

    For example, no one is doing more in terms of poll bullshit-space preparation than Nate Silver, formerly of DKos and now NYTimes Lead Pollster. His mission is to set expectations that Obama will win while maintaining his own plausibility. So he writes

    Has something fundamental changed in the race? Probably not. …I am not a purist who says that candidates and campaigns make no difference. That said, the most reliable benchmark in the past of when presidential results deviate from those predicted by approval ratings is when one of the candidates has a relatively “extreme” ideology, like Barry M. Goldwater or George S. McGovern.

    Obama does not have an extremist ideology, therefore he will still win.

    For the plausibility, you have to go down to the second-to-last paragraph to see

    Put another way, if you are being very detail oriented, there is a case to be made that Mr. Romney’s odds of being elected have improved somewhat over the past six weeks.

  15. palaeomerus says:

    We need to have some of the worst celebrity Jeoparday players ever brought together. So Wolf Blitzer, Chris Matthews, and maybe Darrel Hammond pretending to be Sean Connery?

  16. palaeomerus says:

    And they should spell” Jeopardy” wrong like I did for comedic effect.

  17. DarthLevin says:

    I’ll take The Rapists for $200, Alex

    That’s “Therapists”, Mr. Connery.

    One of the best SNL skits evah.

  18. OCBill says:

    Major Los Angeles shopping mall bans Manny Pacquaio for intolerant speech

    Manny Pacquaio is against gay marriage, so The Grove (a major shopping mall in Los Angeles, has banned him from even shopping at the mall. The best part is the quote supplied the The Grove’s management:

    “The Grove is a gathering place for all Angelenos and not a place for intolerance.”

    I think what they meant to say is that The Grove is a gathering place for all right-thinking Angelinos and that they can tolerate everything except disagreement with the Progressive liberal orthodoxy.

    So basically The Grove is saying is that if you supported Prop 8, they don’t need your stinking intolerant money and neither do any of their tenants, retail stores that are struggling to survive the crappy California economy.

  19. mc4ever59 says:

    OCBill:
    Which is why even the smallest and most fights are fights worth having.
    Publically hold them to account. Make it clear to them and like minded others that they don’t get to decide what , when, where and how the constitution and bill of rights are- or are not- applied.

  20. TaiChiWawa says:

    “That kid doesn’t know the time of day… By the way, what time is it?”

    ~ W.C. Fields

  21. leigh says:

    OT: The Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) goes before the House today to get sharper teeth as it is alleged that the bill doesn’t go far enough.

    JHo, thoughts?

  22. Squid says:

    High water mark.

    Obama is still trading for $5.82 at Intrade, while Mittenz is at $3.97. I’m thinking a guy could make a pile of money, all at the expense of the True Believers.

    I think I may need to ask the Lovely Bride for an advance on my allowance…

  23. sdferr says:

    Michael Greve: The Coming Constitutional Collapse

    Our deepest problem isn’t that we can no longer afford our extravagant transfer state, or even that we cannot possibly pay back the accumulated debt in real dollars: that much, everyone knows. The real problem is that encrusted institutional structures, built up willy-nilly in times of prosperity, block any meaningful, durable reform.

    Way back in 1787, statesmen recognized that the country’s catastrophic debt could not possibly be managed by decrepit institutions that had caused the predicament in the first place. The United States needed a workable Constitution, an effective tax system, and a Bank. 225 years later, we again need something similar—not a new formal Constitution, for sure, but an institutional program on a Hamiltonian scale.

  24. geoffb says:

    Hmmm

    On the Democrat side, the Senate nomination, while technically contested, was guaranteed to go to Bob Kerrey, who returned from Greenwich Village to save the beknighted Nebraskans. And, of course, there was the presidential primary on the Democrat side. Buraq Hussein got 100% of the Democratic vote for President:62,226. The total vote for Democrat Senate candidates was 80,417. Same ballot. Same trip to the voting booth.

    18,191 [roughly 23%] of the Democrat voters deliberately undervoted their ballots so as not to vote for Obama.

  25. Pablo says:

    More fun with Fauxcohantas: Cherokee genealogist to Elizabeth Warren — Tell the truth

    I am writing this letter in the hope it will help end the current situation you have found yourself in. It seems you are being ripped apart in the media because of your claim of Cherokee ancestry and you don’t like it. According to a recent article in the Boston Globe, you believe your opponent is “creating a distraction” by “ridiculously” attacking you “with questions that have already been answered.” It seems you would like the “attacks” against your claims of Cherokee ancestry to stop so I thought I would offer some advice on how to make it stop.

    Tell the truth….

    Surely, this is not something that has occurred to Ms. Spreading Bull.

  26. Pablo says:

    OT: The Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) goes before the House today to get sharper teeth as it is alleged that the bill doesn’t go far enough.

    Katie Pavlich : “You know what’s better than a Violence Against Women Act? A concealed carry permit.”*

  27. leigh says:

    Ms. Pavlich is correct.

    Re: Fauxcohonas, she better retract this Cherokee business tout de suite . The Cherokee, indeed all of the Tribal Counsels, take heritage very, very seriously and get on the warpath (so to speak) when imposters stake a claim to a heritage that isn’t their’s. Especially when one of Warren’s ancestors was marching them down the Trail of Tears. The Cherokee have a lot of clout. You don’t get bad ass surnames like Mankiller and Tenkiller just for the hell of it.

  28. OCBill says:

    No ice cream until further notice! “Armed Environmental Police” shut down ice cream stand on Mother’s Day.

    Armed Environmental Police in Massachusetts shut down ice cream stand

  29. Squid says:

    The Environmental Police damned well better be armed! Can you imagine what Old Man Duffy woulda done to ’em if they’d tried to shut the place down with nothing but clipboards?

  30. RI Red says:

    As instapundit would say, “Tar and feathers!”

  31. motionview says:

    It can’t be Dear Leader’s fault, and it’s certainly not Proggism. It must be a nation-wide visit from Aunt Flow.

  32. leigh says:

    25 more weeks, Outlaws. 25 more weeks.

  33. happyfeet says:

    Another consequence is full-time Franciscan undergraduates will no longer be required to carry health insurance, starting in the fall 2012 semester. However, the employee health insurance program will remain unchanged.

    “We encourage you to decide how you are going to provide for accidents or illnesses requiring visits to physicians, health clinics or the hospital emergency room while you are a student here,” the school said on its website.

    so this really has fuck all to do with principle – the employees are still eligible for yummy contraceptions… it’s mostly about the price of the student policy tripling to where they think they’ll lose students if they make having coverage a requirement when they don’t have an affordable plan to offer

  34. leigh says:

    I doubt a Catholic university employee has contraceptive benefits written into their health insurance benefits. Aren’t undergrads eligible for mom and dad’s benefits until age 26? Unless they are Bluto from Animal House, they’re good.

    I’ve gone to a lot of universities in my odyssey to figure out my path in life, and have never had health insurance covered. Since when do college aged kids think about health insurance or life insurance or 401Ks or anything other than the next party and graduating?

  35. happyfeet says:

    the law as i understand it thanks to the fascist sebelius hoochie is that all health plans offered by employers now include free free free bonus contraceptions… but yeah kids are eligible now to stay on mom and dad’s policy, but as I read this the university is saying they don’t even have to do that anymores

    I don’t get how it’s even legal in the first place for universities to require health insurance for you to attend class there – but it’s a fairly widespread practice I think

  36. Squid says:

    Since when do college aged kids think about health insurance or life insurance or 401Ks or anything other than the next party and graduating?

    Are they promiscuous 30-year-olds double-majoring in Women’s Studies and Political Operations?

  37. leigh says:

    Beats me. That would be an administrative issue. My son just graduated from college last weekend and they never required him to have insurance and he didn’t work enough hours at his job to qualify for benefits, either. Other than a nasty turned ankle from ice skating, he emerged unscathed.

    Also, we’re talking about a private versus a public university. The same rules do not apply.

  38. leigh says:

    Are they promiscuous 30-year-olds double-majoring in Women’s Studies and Political Operations?

    Heh. See my reference to Bluto in my other post. “Seven years of college down the drain!”

  39. happyfeet says:

    the CNN has a little more reporting…

    About 200 of the Franciscan University of Steubenville’s 2,500 students rely on the university health care plan, which costs about $50 a month, Sofio said. He said the school is retaining its health care plan for employees because it is hopeful that legal challenges to the health care law will prevent much of it from taking effect.

    so they’re acting all butthurt about having to offer the contraceptions to the childrens but they’re taking a wait and see let’s not be hasty approach about their employees, who are being offered the exact same package of contraceptive fun

    I’d call that “principled lite” at best

  40. newrouter says:

    When Team Romney is faced with a problem, their first instinct is to do like their boss and identify the problem and fix it. When Team Obama is faced with a problem, their first instinct is to do like their boss and figure out how they can avoid the blame for it.

    It has been my long experience that a team with the first attitude will likely succeed far more than a team with the second attitude. The first approach allows the team to rapidly identify problems and quickly deal with them. It also lets team members know that it is safe to bring up issues of concern. The second approach tends to cover up problems more than solve them. People become afraid of bringing up problems that they might get blamed for, so the tendency is to hide problems instead of dealing with them.

    Things like “Julia” would never had made it very far in a team like Mitt’s that is more concerned about solving problems than affixing blame. Someone would have expressed misgivings about it, the problems would be addressed, and if they couldn’t get it to work, it would have been scrapped. In teams that place a high priority on avoiding blame, any criticism of ideas is looked upon as attempts to cast blame, and people get defensive. You do NOT want to make your boss defensive, so you learn to keep your mouth shut if you see a potential problem. So “Julia” likely sailed through the various committees and levels with nary a dissenting voice.

    I suspect that this, more than anything else, may be a big reason why little if anything coming out of the Obama Campaign seems to be working. Their internal error checking is severely impaired by their instinctual blame avoidance. With Barack Obama as their head, I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

    http://race42012.com/2012/05/16/a-campaign-in-trouble/

  41. newrouter says:

    In its decision to drop coverage, the school cited the contraception mandate, but also a requirement that the maximum coverage amount be increased to $100,000 for policyholders — claiming that would have made premiums skyrocket. A university official told Fox News Radio the students’ basic $600 policy was going to double in cost in the fall and triple next year and that the school’s insurance provider said the increases were the result of the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/15/catholic-university-drops-student-health-insurance-cites-obamacare/#ixzz1v4peEQ7u

  42. bh says:

    so they’re acting all butthurt about having to offer the contraceptions to the childrens but they’re taking a wait and see let’s not be hasty approach about their employees, who are being offered the exact same package of contraceptive fun

    Yeah, they’re the problem.

  43. bh says:

    Acting all butthurt about contraception is also called being Catholic, btw. Or, Christer, I suppose.

    Funny thing about those Christers, they actually fed me and educated me when I was a poor kid and the people who call them Christers don’t seem to do jack shit for anyone.

    Fuck off with this noise already.

  44. bh says:

    They must have been all butthurt about kids with duct-taped shoes not knowing math and misspelling everything.

    What assholes.

  45. mc4ever59 says:

    Catholic charities alone have done more good for more people than the feds ever have, would or could.

  46. bh says:

    Amen.

  47. geoffb says:

    the feds ” minus the military part of “the feds”.

  48. mc4ever59 says:

    geoffb, absolutely.
    sdferr, wasn’t that a great series of cartoons? My grandfather and his brothers loved ’em when they served.

  49. happyfeet says:

    it just feels like they were gonna cancel this insurance anyway cause of the huge huge rate increase but they want to leverage the cancellation to make a statement about contraception – if they were really all that incensed about the contraception they’d cancel their employee coverage too I think

  50. newrouter says:

    if they were really all that incensed about the contraception they’d cancel their employee coverage too I think

    in due time. unload the simple stuff 1st. barackycare forward!

  51. bh says:

    I suppose I could act like I was stupid and I can’t notice various subtleties of word choice and tone, ‘feets.

    Nope. Don’t feel like it though.

    Listen, as you wage your war against Christers, you’re gonna have to realize that they’ve individually and collectively been good neighbors for years and years and years. They’ve earned good will. They’ve earned allies.

    Recognize that and maybe you’ll be able to argue a point or two here or there without immediately making everyone decide they’d rather eat rat poison than agree with your arguments.

  52. happyfeet says:

    well they’re the ones what lobbied their asses off for the barackycare in the first place Mr. newrouter

    everyone in this failshit little country – every last little pikachu – is being forced to buy health insurances, and being forced to buy health insurances what must follow very strict guidelines what fascist bitch kathleen sebelius has dictated

    we’re all in the same boat, and sure as shit if you make tweaks here and there for so special interest groups feel more comfortable with this fascist imposition, your odds of ever freeing your little country from its clutches will diminish dramatically I think

    and that would be that

  53. newrouter says:

    well they’re the ones what lobbied their asses off for the barackycar

    the franciscan bros. in steubenville were minding their own biz.

  54. happyfeet says:

    i like catholics fine Mr. bh

    but when religion gets political it cheapens and perverts politics and religion both I think

    just ick

    case in point

    Catholics should be fighting to free ALL of their fellow Americans from this socialist healthcare nightmare

    but no no no they’re happy to see the rest of us mercilessly pinned under the thumb of the state as long as they get to strike a bit of language here in subparagraph 5 of addendum C

    that does not sound like one nation under God to me

  55. geoffb says:

    The whole point of Obamarecare is to get all private health insurance policies cancelled either by the individual, the employer, or the insurance company. It will drive everyone into the government plans and enable the left to blame employers and insurance companies for it too. Cancelled now or cancelled in a year or so, someone’s always the first but we will all get there soon.

    The only ones to blame for all effects are the fuck-heads who voted for it, the fuck-head-Secretary who does the “shall-s” and “will-s” in the act, and the fuck-head-in-chief who signed it.

  56. happyfeet says:

    the franciscan bros. in steubenville were minding their own biz.

    yes they were and they should not be afflicted with the totalitarian healthcare fascisms anymore than you me or Nancy Reagan

  57. bh says:

    That’s funny because again I’m not stupid. You were talking about how they were all butthurt and hypocritical about contraceptives.

    This is a new argument. One that people might actually respond to.

    Riddle me this. Why didn’t you start there?

  58. happyfeet says:

    The whole point of Obamarecare is to get all private health insurance policies cancelled either by the individual, the employer, or the insurance company.

    yes Mr. geoff and we all hang together or we will hang separately like mistletoe or chads

  59. newrouter says:

    but when religion gets political it cheapens and perverts politics and religion both I think

    the “separation of church and state” cliche

    The Tyranny of Cliches: How Liberals Cheat in the War of Ideas

  60. happyfeet says:

    Why didn’t you start there?

    I started by pointing out that their protest was undercut by their unwillingness to cancel their employee plan

    they just canceled the student plan what the students the plan was originally designed for would never have been able to afford anyway

  61. happyfeet says:

    (cause the cost was set to triple)

  62. sdferr says:

    I wonder how many political regimes the ecclesia has seen come and go over the duration of its existence? The Old institution moves slowly, glacially even. But then, why move fast when the end is nominally eternal?

  63. newrouter says:

    I started by pointing out that their protest was undercut by their unwillingness to cancel their employee plan

    there’s no condom mandate at the moment why screw the employees before baracky makes you do it?

  64. B Moe says:

    but when religion gets political it cheapens and perverts politics and religion both I think
    just ick
    case in point
    Catholics should be fighting to free ALL of their fellow Americans from this socialist healthcare nightmare

    Do you really not see the huge fucking contradiction in that?

  65. bh says:

    Try harder, ‘feets.

    It’s not like they might consider their mission to be important enough to continue so employee retention might be a base requisite they’d address in one way while a small minority of students would be handled another way. No. Wait. It’s exactly like that.

    Of course, this still isn’t the same thing as the later, better point you eventually offer.

    Let’s go back to butthurt about offering contraceptives. That’s your characterization. Why was this offered up again? Any animus behind that phrasing?

    Again, I’m probably being repetitive here but I do actually find it insulting when you pretend I’m a moron.

  66. happyfeet says:

    there is no contradiction there Mr. Moe

    the huge fucking contradiction is found when you have a caterwauling interest group what is caterwauling why? Because of the painfulness of the injustice what has been inflicted upon them.

    And yet they betray no sense, not even a glimmer of awareness, that this monstrous injustice what has been inflicted on them may be equally grievously afflicting others of their brothers and sisters in Christendom in different ways. That the offense others have taken to this socialist rape of freedom may be equally valid as the one of which they so wailingly complain.

    It’s very callous.

  67. happyfeet says:

    well the animus might come from my sense that the Catholic position on contraception is stupid and anachronistic

  68. bh says:

    well the animus might come from my sense that the Catholic position on contraception is stupid and anachronistic

    Did that hurt? Did I really have to write a couple comments for us to get to this point?

    Okay. Fine.

    Maybe now we start digging into how this possibly matters in some non-infinitesimal way when we speak about the liberty-infringing, market-distorting Obamacare.

  69. newrouter says:

    the Catholic position on contraception is stupid and anachronistic

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

  70. mc4ever59 says:

    sufferer at 6:32 pm;
    And the ancient ones still possess one of the world’s finest intelligence services, with a network more far flung and intricate than anything Mr. Axelrod could ever dream of.
    I think they might want to step carefully.

  71. mc4ever59 says:

    that would be sdferr. I’m under a combined assault from spell check and auto correct again.
    How the hell do they get ‘sufferer’ from sdferr?

  72. sdferr says:

    “How the hell do they get ‘sufferer’ from sdferr?”

    It inferred from the nic that this is just another in a long series of impassioned and *beset from all sides* u-m-b-n’s?

  73. Bob Reed says:

    happyfeet,
    when you speak about special interest groups caterwauling, you should really separate the wheat from the chaff; that is, individual Catholics supported the passage of Obamacare, while the Church itself, and the Catholic Conference of Bishops, is opposing the government order that effects their intstitutions…

    There’s a big difference there. Indeed, just in the last two weeks the leadership of an association of nuns has been rebuked formally by the Vatican and is being reorganized by the Bishop of Seattle. Among the reasons? The high visibility of support for Obamacare by the leadership; Superiors who publicly stated that consideration for the social justice aspect of Obamacare superceded concerns over the abortion on demand/contraception aspect of it.

    Rank and file Catholics may be politically active, but the Church itself doesn’t get involved until threatened; part and parcel of the, “Render unto Caesar, etc…”, teaching of Christ.

    A broad brush can often spatter those who never should have been painted, know what I mean?

    My Regards

  74. happyfeet says:

    I’m not talking about the animus you wanted to talk about the animus Mr. bh. My point is more that there’s something exquisitely perverse about a willingness among some to seek an accommodation with a fascist healthcare system… a system what will degrade everyone’s healthcare and quality of life to where it’s very likely that the younger ones of them will die of infection in squalid government hospitals as long as they don’t get free rubbers.

    It’s just zany.

  75. happyfeet says:

    I can’t keep up

  76. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Bob! Hello. My understanding has been that the Church itself, and the Catholic Conference of Bishops was very supportive of Obamacare

    The AARP and American Medical Association supported H.R. 3692, the Affordable Health Care for America Act of 2009, but a careful analysis of the media coverage demonstrates that it was the U.S. Catholic Church that provided the winning margin. Yet, the liberal media are failing to raise the issue of the alleged separation of church and state.

    Contrary to some media reports, the U.S. Catholics Bishops never opposed a national health care scheme. In fact, their main objection was to a provision for federal funding of abortion. Once that provision was eliminated, the Catholic Bishops embraced the bill.

    Are they wrong?

  77. newrouter says:

    a system what will degrade everyone’s healthcare and quality of life to where it’s very likely that the younger ones of them will die of infection in squalid government hospitals as long as they don’t get free rubbers.

    if there’s only gov’t hospitals why wouldn’t the rubbers be free?

  78. geoffb says:

    Up?

    Fox News reports on their new poll:

    Obama would have an advantage of 46 percent to 39 percent over Romney, if the election were held today. Three weeks ago the candidates were tied at 46 percent each.
    […]
    The gender gap is alive and well, as women continue to be more likely to back Obama (55 percent to 33 percent), while men are more inclined to support Romney (46 to 37 percent).

    Down?

    t has taken months of bad news, but Democrats increasingly believe that President Obama might just lose his re-election bid.

    The latest wake-up call comes in the form of a New York Times/CBS poll showing Republican Mitt Romney in the lead not just among registered voters overall, but with women and independents.

    The Times/CBS survey is unique in that the pollsters called back the same phone numbers they had a month before. In April, Obama and Romney were dead even. Now, Romney leads by 3 points overall. That’s still within the margin of error — a statistical tie.

    But the shifts with women, moderates and independents are all statistically significant. Obama lost 5 points with each of those demographics.

    In Wisconsin.

    A new Marquette Law School Poll shows that with three weeks to go until the recall election Governor Scott Walker has taken a six-percentage point lead over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, 50-44 percent, among likely voters.
    […]
    Looking ahead to the November election, President Barack Obama is tied with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, 46 percent to 46 percent, among likely voters. In April Obama led Romney by 49 to 45 percent, also among likely voters.

    Battleground Wisconsin now, soon battleground Michigan. By October it will be battleground Illinois.

  79. newrouter says:

    Yet, the liberal media are failing to raise the issue of the alleged separation of church and state.

    the tyranny of cliches cont.

  80. B Moe says:

    but when religion gets political it cheapens and perverts politics and religion both I think

    So religion should just mind its own business, and only be concerned with how government affects it directly? Or:

    Catholics should be fighting to free ALL of their fellow Americans from this socialist healthcare nightmare

    Government should cheapen everybody by getting directly involved in government and directly influencing how it affects everyone.

    Those two statements are in direct contradiction.

  81. Bob Reed says:

    Also, the links about the Franciscans you put up? There’s no hypocrisy there anyway; that’s what the whole blow up with HHS is about. The health plans they currently offer don’t comply with Kommisar Sebelius’ ideal..

  82. happyfeet says:

    Catholics should be fighting to free ALL of their fellow Americans from this socialist healthcare nightmare

    well let me re-phrase that for you Mr. Moe

    Catholics should join the fight alongside all of their freedom-loving countrymen to free ALL of our fellow Americans from this socialist healthcare nightmare. A New Argentina the Voice of the People cannot be and will not be and must not be denied!

  83. geoffb says:

    2009-2012 summarized.

    Oceania Lite

    Everyone must buy health insurance, regardless of whether he wants it. The FAA streamlines rules for the domestic use of drones. The president redefines marriage. Armed Environmental Police shut down — and stand guard over — an ice cream stand in Lowell, Mass., for not having a permit. A Harvard law professor is referred to as a ”woman of color” because she imagines herself 1/32nd Cherokee. Thousands are put out of work because the state values a tiny fish more than its citizens. Americans may not buy incandescent 100-watt light bulbs.

    Hello, Winston.

  84. Bob Reed says:

    No happyfeet, you’re not wrong in your link regarding USCCB. But because they didn’t actively oppose the entire act doesn’t imply support.

    As an organization, the only positions they took on it was to oppose the parts that didn’t comply with their beliefs.

    But a large number of rank and file Catholics, outspoken nuns, and liberal priests, like Phleger, did their best to lend the imprimatur of the Church to their individual support…

  85. happyfeet says:

    I don’t understand about links Mr. Bob

  86. happyfeet says:

    one sec I have a pollster on the phone

  87. bh says:

    [1]I’m not talking about the animus [2]you wanted to talk about the animus Mr. bh. [3]My point is more that there’s something exquisitely perverse about a willingness among some to seek an accommodation with a fascist healthcare system […]

    You make three claims there. All false. (With my emphasis which we have to note even when everyone can tell it by the brackets and bolding.)

    1) By using words to express your animus, you’re talking about your animus. It’s a thing. A is A. You did so unprompted. 2) I didn’t want to talk about your animus. I wanted you to admit that it was your initial thrust. Everyone knows about your animus. We mostly ignore it. 3) No, that’s your later point. I don’t think we should call it your point only because it’s the one bit of defensible ground you now find yourself on.

    [bh note: yes, I do understand the irony of saying that I’m not a moron while arguing with ‘feets. I also smoke.]

  88. Bob Reed says:

    Anyway, I could only pop in for a moment.
    My best to the entire PW commentariat :)

    Soon I’ll be able to join the sandlot game for more realistic time spans…

  89. newrouter says:

    I also smoke.

    good allan you’re evil!

  90. leigh says:

    I can’t keep up

    No kidding. You’re tying yourself in knots to make a point that is nonsensical. It would serve you well to learn about Catholic teachings. First and foremost the doctrine that life is a seamless garment, from conception to a natural death.

    I fear that your early teaching in the Lutheran church, itself founded by a former Catholic priest who had great animus toward the Church, has poisoned your mind in regard to good and faitful Catholics. (I mean no offense to observant Lutherans here or elsewhere and am only referring to happyfeet, here.)

    As you love to toss around when we are speaking of your fabulous gay friends, you are acting like a bigot. Knock it off.

  91. happyfeet says:

    you shouldn’t smoke Mr. bh it’s bad for you and I am not arguing I am just making the comments you’re getting all 1 2 3 and it’s confusing

  92. B Moe says:

    It is really hard for me to reconcile that Rick Santorum, Nancy Pelosi , and the Pope are all theoretically the same religion.

  93. newrouter says:

    Rick Santorum, Nancy Pelosi , and the Pope are all theoretically the same religion.

    ms. nancy is the botox/catholic offshoot

  94. happyfeet says:

    I’m not trying to deprive anyone of their rights leigh I want everyone in America to stand together and oppose the evil designs of the dirty socialists.

    We can sing songs of protest and freedom and have low-cal fro-yo after.

    I just think the whole contraception thing is one of those not seeing the forest for the trees things.

  95. happyfeet says:

    hey happy grab a sign we’re all going to the contraception rally!

    No thanks I’m a catch you later I have to get up early tomorrow and I need to do some laundry and I have a heart condition and I should probably get that checked plus a friend of mine called me at work and I told her to call me later after I got home and I think she only has my landline.

  96. newrouter says:

    I just think the whole contraception thing is one of those not seeing the forest for the trees things.

    the tyranny of cliches cont.:

    “draw a line in the sand”(islamofasciticphobic)

  97. leigh says:

    I just think the whole contraception thing is one of those not seeing the forest for the trees things.

    Surely you recognize a slippery slope when you see one?

  98. happyfeet says:

    yes I recognize a slippery slope we are all every one of us sliding headlong down that slope at a terrifying speed leigh

    I’m scared

  99. BT says:

    To observant Catholics the contraception issue is not a tree, it is the pull cord on a chainsaw.

  100. leigh says:

    If you are scared you need to stop fighting with people who are believers in freedom.

  101. leigh says:

    That’s very good, BT.

  102. happyfeet says:

    I’m not fighting with nobody really these are just comments on the internet

    why does nobody get that

  103. leigh says:

    Don’t start.

  104. newrouter says:

    yes I recognize a slippery slope

    you and the commies luvs this stuff

  105. happyfeet says:

    well we have reached that point at which I have exhausted my thinkings about the contraception kerfuffle

    so what’s up with that Elizabeth Warren I don’t think she’s really an indian at all I think she’s just joshing

  106. bh says:

    I’m not fighting with nobody really these are just comments on the internet

    why does nobody get that

    Why don’t you get that if you’re bothering easygoing folk like B Moe and myself you must be either fucking up or achieving your goal?

    People can hit me in the head with rocks and not bother me. True fact. For recreation I encourage my most muscular friends to try and choke me out. True fact.

    This has to tell you something.

  107. happyfeet says:

    I’m sorry I bothered you and Mr. Moe but that doesn’t change my opinion really

    the contraception thing annoys me cause it’s so so picayune set against the wholesale rapey viciousness of obamacare

  108. bh says:

    I’m a moron.

    I really am.

  109. leigh says:

    You’re not a moron, bh. Come sit by me. I have cake.

  110. happyfeet says:

    no you’re not Mr. bh you have a good head on your shoulders

  111. bh says:

    No, I’m remarkably stupid.

  112. bh says:

    I think many, many lurkers probably get how I am stupid but they’re too polite to remark upon it. So I did.

    Remarkably stupid.

  113. happyfeet says:

    no you’re not stupid at all you just let yourself get all worked up sometimes I think

  114. Pablo says:

    I’m not fighting with nobody really these are just comments on the internet

    why does nobody get that

    Because we tend to think we’re having substantive discussions as opposed to fingerpainting with our dicks.

  115. Pablo says:

    First and foremost the doctrine that life is a seamless garment, from conception to a natural death.

    But that’s …inconvenient!!!!

  116. Pablo says:

    bh, you need to embrace the curve.

  117. bh says:

    I’m gonna start with a beer, Pablo.

  118. sdferr says:

    Don’t bunch up.

    But did we know about Goa and how the Portuguese got it from off some Ottoman sultanate in 1510, only to lose it to the Indians in 1961? That’s a long chunk of time to be holding the ground.

  119. RI Red says:

    “fingerpainting with our dicks.” Classic, pablo. I hope I can shamelessly rip that phrase off sometime.
    As much as I am tempted to respond, sometimes hf is too far gone. And, happy, I don’t mean that as disrespect. I just know how much you try to push buttons. And, bh, I am occasionally moronic enough to jump into that La Brea tar pit.
    But I’ve given it up for Lent. And I’m not sure of the calendar on that. So it’s sort of on-going.

  120. leigh says:

    But that’s …inconvenient!!!!

    Isn’t it? No one said this Catholic business was easy.

  121. happyfeet says:

    here is a musics about the Goa Mr. sdferr

    one of my favorite musics really

  122. leigh says:

    Lent’s over, Red. Next up: Pentacost.

  123. newrouter says:

    No, I’m remarkably stupid.

    repent you smoker

  124. RI Red says:

    And as far as embracing the curves, that’s one of my favorite pastimes. But I realize that my heterosexual fetishes are just not in vogue. My bad.

  125. Dale Price says:

    Why don’t you get that if you’re bothering easygoing folk like B Moe and myself you must be either fucking up or achieving your goal?

    People can hit me in the head with rocks and not bother me. True fact. For recreation I encourage my most muscular friends to try and choke me out. True fact.

    This has to tell you something.

    Because hf has a bug up his ass about Christers. His hate-on–functionally indistinguishable from Marcotte’s–is more important to him than anything else. It’s been pointed out to hf innumerable times that it’s not just a Catholic fight, but that’s irrelevant. Catholics, after all, don’t agree with hf on sexual matters, especially marriage “equality,” so that’s that. They can die in a fire.

  126. RI Red says:

    Further , I’m listening to Taylor Swift and acknowledging that she is hawt. Does that make me a perv? Just because I’m attracted to females from 21 to 60? Oh, the horror.

  127. motionview says:

    What’s wrong with filesharing and transparency?. Even US State Department documents. Data wants to be free. Of course sometimes then people people tend to be dead.

    WikiLeaks may have been responsible for exposing Majid Jamali Fashi, the 24-year-old kickboxer who was hanged in Tehran on Tuesday morning after “confessing” to assassinating a nuclear scientist on behalf of Israel, a British media report said. The Times of London reported Wednesday that a document from the US Embassy in Baku, Azerbaijan, seemingly drew attention to Fashi. The September 2009 US diplomatic document — identified by the code 09BAKU687 — quotes an Iranian source who was a licensed martial arts coach and trainer as describing to his American contacts pressure from the Iranian regime to train soldiers and militiamen in martial arts. Fashi was reportedly in Baku for an international martial arts competition only days before the US Embassy document was written. The suggestion is that the Iranian authorities identified Fashi as someone who was in illicit contact with the West on the basis of the document. He was arrested days after the publication of the document by WikiLeaks in December of 2010 and charged with carrying out the January 2010 assassination of nuclear scientist Masoud Ali-Mohammadi on behalf of the Mossad

    All because li’l Manley is a gender-confused, and the Army is mean.

  128. Dale Price says:

    To observant Catholics the contraception issue is not a tree, it is the pull cord on a chainsaw.

    A-yep. And not just on Obamacare.

  129. leigh says:

    I’m listening to Taylor Swift

    One of my kids went to school with Taylor. She’s a stuck-up snot.

    Just FYI.

  130. Pablo says:

    “fingerpainting with our dicks.” Classic, pablo. I hope I can shamelessly rip that phrase off sometime.

    Feel free, Red. I’ve been flogging “Our vote is purely aspirational” so much I’ve been forgetting attribution, so I owe you one.

  131. happyfeet says:

    the Hunger Games soundtrack sucks ass

  132. sdferr says:

    Taylor Swift, she would be one of these then? Speaking of aspirational.

  133. newrouter says:

    She’s a stuck-up snot.

    that and “hope and change” oh well

  134. RI Red says:

    Shoot. Debussy, Taylor Swift, Hunger Games. I’m definitely aspiring. I’ll be in my bunk.

  135. Danger says:

    bh says May 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm
    No, I’m remarkably stupid.

    Let’s not be so hasty on that diagnosis bh.

    Tell me about your mother… and these muscular men you like to challenge to choke you out, where do you meet them? Are any of them Chicago club regulars? How much beer will you be drinking? And finally, do you believe people are lurking and watching you?

    Ok, that should do for this session;)

  136. BT says:

    Small world.

    The not going to goa group did the opening song for the Sopranos. Speaking of Catholics you don’t want to mess with.

  137. newrouter says:

    hey i baracky/holder suck let’s start a race war:

    The NY Times can’t quite bring itself to report on the latest news in the Zimmerman case – Zimmerman’s medical file shows he was banged up and Martin’s autopsy showed bloody knuckles – so they hand the mike to the Ben Crump, the Martin family attorney, and rehash every possible mistake made by the Sanford PD.

    Presumably their goal is to pretend that, however ludicrous the current situation, the media and the prosecutor acted in good faith in bringing us here.

    What would really be impressive would be a mea culpa about the Times mis-reporting and errors. Some of those errors have been corrected. On the other hand, the Times also makes new ones, such as the laugher in today’s story (my emphasis):

    Given Mr. Zimmerman’s assertion that he was acting in self-defense, and lacking enough evidence to the contrary, the original prosecutor in the case, Norm Wolfinger, whose jurisdiction includes Sanford, filed no charges against him.

    That decision resulted in an increasingly strident public outcry. After Gov. Rick Scott of Florida contacted Mr. Wolfinger and had a conversation with him in late March, the prosecutor recused himself, citing, among other things, an unspecified conflict of interest.

    He cited “an unspecified conflict of interest”?

    link

  138. mc4ever59 says:

    Heh, that’s a fine job and a lot of ground covered for such a short session, Danger. In comparison, there are people from Harvard who get $500 an hour for inferior quality work. I believe the Wizard called them ‘Thinkologists’.
    I call them thieves.

  139. mc4ever59 says:

    nr, I don’t know what to make of the ‘Washington Insider’ mentioned here by Leigh, among others. Is he real? Is it all a put on?
    Whichever, he’s certainly walking down the right path. Race war has been discussed several times by his ‘source’ as a tactic in the lead up to November.

  140. bh says:

    Heh. Good stuff, Danger.

  141. leigh says:

    *sniff*

    Y’all are making fun of me.

  142. bh says:

    Nah, leigh.

    Unless you’re an old school Freudian. You’ve definitely never struck me as one though.

  143. sdferr says:

    Top of the 15th an’ we ain’t done yet. Unfortunately, our finisher first baseman has already been substituted for though, so Showalter is going to have to find another willing pigeon if this game goes on much longer.

  144. leigh says:

    No, I’m not. I’m more of an Adler gal. Too bad he was a commie. But, he was a pal of Ayn Rand’s, so there’s that.

  145. sdferr says:

    Finally, a run.

    Larry Adler! Yep, commie.

  146. mc4ever59 says:

    Would never make fun of you, Leigh. You’re one of the good ones, and one sharp gal.

  147. newrouter says:

    mr strait daughter talks @ http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930#

    thanks eric and baracky @ 2:40

  148. mc4ever59 says:

    sdferr, if you had tickets to see your favorite ballclub, would you be happy if the game went 18 innings-“woohoo, a two for one!”- or would you be saying, “Please God, end this”.

  149. Mike LaRoche says:

    Luck the Fakers! What a thrilling finish.

  150. mc4ever59 says:

    Well. I guess there won’t be one more for old time’s sake classic Celtics-Lakers title series.

  151. Mike LaRoche says:

    It’ll be interesting to see who wins the Eastern Conference, what with the injury to Chris Bosh negatively affecting Miami’s chances.

  152. bh says:

    I also hate Miami. It’s not a mature, full hatred yet but I’m working on it.

  153. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Just wondering, did anybody tell the dipshit that the likely reason that Franciscan University hasn’t cancelled the employee health care plan is because it’s included in the various fucking union contracts?

  154. happyfeet says:

    no nobody told me Mr. Ernst but you have to remember they explicitly say why…

    He said the school is retaining its health care plan for employees because it is hopeful that legal challenges to the health care law will prevent much of it from taking effect.

    and I agree I think they have an open and shut court case

  155. Mike LaRoche says:

    I also hate Miami.

    I don’t care much for Miami either, especially with LeBron James transforming himself into a Kobe-esque type villain by stabbing Cleveland in the back.

  156. sdferr says:

    I like a game that’s over at around 2hrs 10min, mc4ever59, but nine innings anywhere inside 2:45 will do.

  157. bh says:

    For me it was partially Lebron’s Decision and partially the insane calls Dwayne Wade gets, Mike.

    Only so many times a guy can draw a foul by putting his forearm into a defender before I put them on my list.

  158. happyfeet says:

    hi catholic church! oh crap I left my clipboard in the car.

    brb.

    hi catholic church! I understand you’re not very happy about this obamacare business.

    Not at all, wee small yellow creature. What happened to separation of church and state?

    um, yeah. Exactly.

    What happened to the whole “…or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” thing?

    yeah. I feel you.

    It’s a war on religion is what it is!

    Oh yeah that sucks I can’t believe…

    yeah!

    yup. And, um exactly! And that’s why we think the federal government shouldn’t be in any position to dictate…

    Right.

    so we’ll put you down in support for repealing obamacare?

    oh nononononono! We just want to change the part about the contraception the rest of you can suck it.

    Oh. That’s funny! I guess I didn’t really need my clipboard after all.

    Guess not.

  159. mc4ever59 says:

    I try not to bash on refs too much, but I agree with you ,bh. I sometimes think Wade could bring a tire iron out on the court, apply it none to gently to someone’s knee, and not get called for a foul.

  160. mc4ever59 says:

    Heh, apparently pikachus do not require much sleep, and enjoy nipping ankles at any hour.

  161. happyfeet says:

    it’s only a quarter after 10 Mr. 59

    it’s cause I live so far west of America

  162. mc4ever59 says:

    Ah, one o’ them left coasters.

  163. happyfeet says:

    yeah it’s not my fault

    I have a limited skill set so i have to go where the work is

    here is a tuneful tune a friend of mine gave me this morning

    it’s very summery and retro and too-earnest and I like it

  164. mc4ever59 says:

    The tune was bizarre, hf, but what the hell. God bless ya.
    Talk to you all tomorrow. Hell, it is tomorrow.
    In a few hours then.

  165. happyfeet says:

    night you

  166. B Moe says:

    well let me re-phrase that for you Mr. Moe

    Catholics should join the fight alongside all of their freedom-loving countrymen to free ALL of our fellow Americans from this socialist healthcare nightmare. A New Argentina the Voice of the People cannot be and will not be and must not be denied!

    How do you know they aren’t? Many Catholics as individuals are doing exactly that, and keeping the Church out of it so folks like you don’t get any ick on them.

    It is the Catholic Church that is specifically upset about contraception and birth control, because that is the specific point that specifially conflicts with there religion. If the Catholic Church as a religious body gets involved in a purely political matter such as the entirity of Obama Care, then you are going to get all covered in ick again.

    We can’t have that now, can we?

  167. mc4ever59 says:

    B Moe;
    Your post tracks with what a friend of mine from back east told me in a phone call last weekend. He’s devout Catholic ( I’m raised Catholic, but haven’t been to church for a long time), and says they’re getting guidance, but are handling things on their own. The feeling is that they’re hoping it doesn’t come down to a full blown confrontation between church and state, as it could get ugly.
    If the O admin thinks they could roll over the church in such a fight as easily as they would a kid’s corner lemonade stand, they’re fools.

  168. Dale Price says:

    Tigers pooped the bed against the frigging Twins. I think the preseason hype has been too much early on.

    Oh, and I have no problem hating the Heat at this point.

  169. Dale Price says:

    Lakers blew it? Awesome. Perhaps the most enjoyable title in my lifetime from the standpoint of being unexpected was the Pistons pasting LA in 2004.

  170. mc4ever59 says:

    Heh. Hating the Heat is easy. Between the doofus LeBron ‘please kick me’ James and D Wade- aka ‘the one who cannot be called for a foul’- and all the rest of their circus bs, ya just can’t help it.
    I really enjoyed watching the Mavs take them apart in the finals last season.

  171. Dale Price says:

    The main problem with slash and burn screeching against the papists is that it nicely antagonizes people who have been slapped awake by the prog leviathan. One formerly-supportive fellow beadsqueezer now says of Obamacare “It just gives the government too damn much power.”

    So, yeah, let’s stomp those green shoots flat–the jihad against Christers must come first.

  172. happyfeet says:

    did you read this link Mr. Moe?

    The Catholic Church was also specifically upset that America didn’t have a nice euro-style cradle to grave mediocre health care system. The long march through the institutions didn’t pass over these guys. Not a bit. No more than it passed over the upper echelons of the Presbyterians or the Episcopalians or the Lutherans.

    Kathy Saile, director of domestic social development with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, was quoted by the Los Angeles Times as saying that illegal aliens should be included in any health care plan because health care is “a basic right” and “you can’t start cutting people out.”

    So I’m not gonna be too upset that some people are getting free birth control pills against the wishes of a catholic bishop. We all know the courts will ultimately exempt them. Let’s just hope the supreme court is as merciful with respect to the rest of obamacare.

    That’s the important thing.

  173. leigh says:

    I had a terrible dream last night, in which I was harangued by militant Baptists about how I wasn’t a real Christian (due to my statue worshipping ways, etc).

  174. mc4ever59 says:

    Did the head militant Baptist have a yellowish skin palor and look like a……pikachu?

  175. leigh says:

    Come to think of it, he was sort of yellowish in pallor and talked a lot of nonsense. He even accused me of wanting to steal his cheap-ass firearms. As if.

  176. TRHein says:

    It was so much nicer without this yellow creature around.

  177. happyfeet says:

    that is a mean thing to say, and hurtful

  178. leigh says:

    TRHein, we all have intrinsic worth.

  179. TRHein says:

    Intrinsic: inherent, built-in, basic, essential, fundamental, central, native, real, genuine.

    Leigh, please point out where any of the above fits most of the comments of the yellow creature, esp. pretaining to Ms. Palin or Christians.

  180. leigh says:

    Happy is an instigator, TR. Don’t let him get under your skin, although I admit that he makes me mad, too, sometimes.

    My job is working with difficult people, and while he is a challenge, he’s not stupid. He’s constructed an elaborate facade to hide behind to enable him to say nasty things he wouldn’t say in person or using his real name. He is friends in real life with JD and a number of others, and I respect his choice of friends and will continue to give him a pass until they tell him to kiss off.

    I disagree with him about his views of Christianity, but it’s America. I am not a fan of Ms. Palin, but I haven’t anything to add to that conversation, so I stay out of it.

    All this is a long-winded way of saying don’t let him bait you.

  181. guinspen says:

    From this angle, it looks more like a belabored facade.

  182. TRHein says:

    Leigh,

    Instigator or not I don’t cotton to his type. I was raised a shoot from the hip type of guy. While I appreciate he is from Texas I do not fancy the way he carries himself. America is not a failshit little country and I will be damned if I spent my life defending this country for the like of him to say what he “feels” to be true.

    Ms. Palin need not be bended because he and his ilk don’t like her. Christians should not be dumped on just because it’s the in thing to do. I do not have to accept gay… what you do on your own time doesn’t matter to me but do not force me to have to accept or condone what you do on your own time.

    I am sick and tired of hearing the same bull I can read in the papers or at other online sources here at PW.

    I appreciate that you are more learned in things than I but I have to draw a line. America has to draw a line and the yellow caricature and those that think like him are not the sort to see that line. That is my point. If the yellow caricature feels hurt by that then let him find a way to change his color. Lord knows many here at PW have asked he desist from his more caustic assaults but he can not.

    This is not a matter of baiting.

  183. leigh says:

    He’s not hurt, TR. He’s trying to make you feel sorry for calling him out. His tropes are wearing thin and I figure that Jeff will give him the heave ho once more or at least give him a stern talking to when he has time away from the baby.

    America is indeed a wonderful place and doesn’t deserve to be pissed on. I want to thank you for your service, too. (My husband is a USA retired officer.) I am religious and it hurts my heart when people speak poorly of Christianity. Generally it comes from a place of ignorance or it would never be suggested that Jesus is cool with the ghey marriage. See Matthew 14 for proof. Sadly, there are a great many people who feel the need to mock and scorn those who do believe or accuse us of ulterior motives (projection much?). Fight fire with fire and pray for them and let them know you are praying for them.

    PW is a wonderful place and a real marketplace of ideas. There are no moderators and thank God for that. Unfortunately, there are those who will take advantage of that and go too far and happyfeet has been doing that lately. He’s making his own bed and not for the first time. Why? Who knows. I wonder if he even knows.

    Anyway, I’m not making excuses for him and I completely understand how you and many others (including me) feel when he gets on a tear. I know he’s reading this, too. Happy, chime in and tell us why you’ve been acting the fool.

  184. leigh says:

    Make that Matthew 19. I need a new memory stick, evidently.

    4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’[b] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

    That Jesus! What a homophobe.

  185. TRHein says:

    Leigh,

    Thank you for your warm thoughts though I would ask that you save them and return them a thousand fold for those currently down range.

    As to the yellow caricature, as Jeff has said many times he’s a “griefer”, I really don’t care what he thinks or why and I will continually call him on out that point.

    Pistols at 20 paces as it were, though I likely couldn’t hit the side of a barn in my current state.

  186. TRHein says:

    or “out on”, whichever floats the boat.

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