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"Boehner-Obama Deal Leaves FY11 Spending $773B Above FY08 Level—About as Big an Increase as Obama’s Stimulus"

Don’t mess with the GOP Jungle cats! Rrrrawr!

Now. Who wants a julep?

94 Replies to “"Boehner-Obama Deal Leaves FY11 Spending $773B Above FY08 Level—About as Big an Increase as Obama’s Stimulus"”

  1. Squid says:

    They talked Obama/Reid down by 2%. Two friggin’ percent.

    Multiply that by a factor of ten, and repeat for four consecutive years, and then we can talk.

  2. newrouter says:

    The same old Republicans incapable of producing significant results for years are still in control, squandering any hope of the party regaining genuine credibility, as they had a chance to do after November, 2010. And their toadies in the Right-side beltway media like NRO and now neo-Republican Rubin at the Post are cheering them on, while trying to stifle any dissent.

    The toadies we can ignore; Boehner and company we will have to throw out in 2012. Both are less than useless to the conservative cause.

    link

  3. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Cloward-Piven for the win.

  4. JHoward says:

    It’s almost like we’ll never pull this thing out.

  5. AJB says:

    Look at the bright side: years of anti-worker legislation and attacks on collective bargaining are helping reduce America to third world status so that companies are “outsourcing” their sweatshops here. The conservative movement has accomplished a lot and the recent “failure” to gut government programs that don’t involve incinerating brown people is nothing to worry about.

  6. JD says:

    You are a fucking imbecile, Yelverton. Aggressively so. Go fuck yourself.

  7. Jeff G. says:

    I look at the bright side every day, AJB. Namely, that you’ll be one of the first up against the wall.

  8. McGehee says:

    They wouldn’t waste firing squad on AJB. A few shakes of salt will do the trick.

  9. newrouter says:

    from the flaming skull

    As Rand Paul said — and I didn’t think he was right when I first heard this, but he was, in fact right — we’ll actually spend more in 2011 then in 2010.

    This is a “cut”? In what sense?

    This is absolutely horrible. You know what we’ve got? Another stimulus, but a covert one.

    And apparently it’s a stimulus that’s baked in the cake and will keep getting spent year after year forever.

    link

  10. banbait / alex_walter / they're all crooks says:

    expiring the Bush tax cuts would wipe out a significant amount of the deficit

  11. Jim in KC says:

    How much should a guy who puts nutserts into a coffee table make, ajb? Couple mil a year?

  12. Jim in KC says:

    Expiring a number of useless and extra-Constitutional departments would wipe out a significant amount of the deficit.

  13. John Bradley says:

    nr: the land of the flaming skull may indeed be a “smart military blog”, but a surprising number of them who aren’t named “Monty” are idiots when it comes to financial matters.

  14. JD says:

    This thread appears to be flypaper for morons like Yelverton and the assbandit that thinks we can tax our way to recovery. Good Allah.

  15. John Bradley says:

    Simply not spending any more than they take in would wipe out all of the deficit.

  16. bh says:

    This was to be… expected.

    Hope they enjoyed their victory parade though. All it cost them was their credibility. Yes, “they” and “their” runs far further than just the politicians involved.

  17. Squid says:

    What anti-worker legislation, AJB?

    Minimum-wage increases that encourage businesses to automate low-skill positions? “Prevailing wage” requirements that favor a handful of overpaid shovel jockeys at the expense of recent high-school graduates desperate for work? Ever-increasing regulations that force small businesses to spend precious dollars on accountants and lawyers and licensing fees instead of payroll? Ever-increasing taxes that force small businesses out of the market entirely? Out-of-control federal spending that debases the currency and makes everything more expensive for everybody? Ever-changing fiscal policies that encourage investors and businesses to sit on their cash until they figure out what the business environment is going to look like? Federal regulators who illegally force development projects to Brazil? Product safety laws that prohibit little old ladies from selling their knitting projects?

    Or do you mean a couple of laws in a couple of states that allow people to work for the government without being forced to donate a portion of their pay to the Democrats?

    What is it that makes a guy who can’t count to 21 without unzipping his fly think that anyone cares what he has to say about numbers utterly beyond his comprehension?

  18. Squid says:

    expiring the Bush tax cuts

    I don’t know which one of you jokers is ‘banbait,’ but that’s just beautiful. Sauntering into a linguistics blog pushing the narrative that letting a tax cut expire is totally different from just raising taxes. Takes big brass ones, it does.

    Now, ‘fess up — which one of you is the twisted genius?

  19. alppuccino says:

    I hold out hope that Boehner said, “Great deal Mr. President! I think you should make a speech next week.”

    Because as everyone knows, when Obama hypes a speech, and grabs some prime time, he ends up looking like an idiot. I mean, he ends up looking even more like an idiot.

  20. JHoward says:

    Sauntering into a linguistics blog pushing the narrative that letting a tax cut expire is totally different from just raising taxes.

    Not subjecting yourself to bait’s intentionally faulty premise, Squid? Heck, if everybody did that the Democrat Party would literally cease to exist, puny minds and all. And what would that do for the PVC furniture arts, I ask you?

    And you thought it was just the cowboy poetry.

  21. bh says:

    Not me. If I was banbait I would have linked this chart in an asterisk.

  22. Ernst Schreiber says:

    expiring the Bush tax cuts would wipe out a significant amount of the deficit

    Why go to the bother? After all, we’re the united fucking states of America, not some pissant loser shithole like Greece! Fire up the printing presses!

    Obama’s just gonna reach into his stash and make all your dreams come true! No house payments, car payments, no gas to buy, grocery bills to pay, no credit card bills (hell, no credit cards anymore!), man living harmoniously in a state of nature!

    What’s not to like?

  23. JHoward says:

    From AJB’s link, a clue about what to do about working for a company you aren’t compatible with:

    Kylette Duncan, among the plant’s first hires, quit after six months

    Gasp.

    Meanwhile, BarkyReform™ marches on, to the tune of billions and billions of dollars saved from evil “capitalists”.

    Get back to us when you’re ready to get serious, AJB.

  24. Seth says:

    The GOP has a big Boehner for Obama.

  25. Spiny Norman says:

    expiring the Bush tax cuts would wipe out a significant amount of the deficit

    No, it wouldn’t. It might make as much difference as the “$30 billion” in cuts the GOP just settled for. Only for the first year. If that.

    Even the Democrats know better than to raise taxes in a recession…

    Besides, why do you think I should pay 50% more in federal income tax, when I can’t afford what I pay now. (Yeah, I’m currently in the 10% bracket that would “expire” and would be moved up to the 15% bracket, I guess that makes me “rich”.)

    I don’t know, Squid. We’ve had some really stupid trolls, and some others that posted crap they know is crap just to get a reaction.

  26. bh says:

    Btw, I don’t normally check out all these places but I’d be curious to know if any of the biggest cheerleaders have addressed these shocking developments.

    Didn’t see anything from Rubin at WaPo. Haven’t checked NRO, Gabe at AOSHQ or Charlie Martin over at PJM. I suppose they could say that this is new information. On the other hand, if you didn’t know that accounting fraud is standard operating procedure in Washington, I’m not exactly sure why you’re commenting on national politics.

  27. Jeff G. says:

    National Review had an editorial today saying we owed Boehner thanks and gratitude.

    So.

  28. motionview says:

    I’ve written to my Congressman and told him to vote against this monstrosity or gird his loins for a primary challenge.

  29. George Orwell says:

    It’s almost as if Jennifer Rubin had an entire omelet on her face.

    Strike “almost.”

    Shitheads.

  30. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Wouldn’t you love to know who the idiot cheerleading coward hiding behind the institutional voice in order to write that insipid dreck was?

    I’m guessing Lowry.

  31. Jeff G. says:

    banbait is alex_walter. Just can’t quit us.

    I posted this last night, but let me repeat: confiscate all the profits from Fortune 500 companies; confiscate all income over $250K; pretend we never entered Iraq and Afghanistan, so wipe those yearly expenditures off the books. And you’re still running a quarter of billion dollar deficit for this year’s budget.

    Instead of stealing other people’s wealth, how about we just downsize the fucking government, rework the tax system, loosen regulation, and let this economy go. Seems to be working for Hong Kong.

  32. Jeff G. says:

    I keep trying to save these conservative blogs from themselves, but they don’t want my help. And don’t need it: apparently pitching sunshine and GOP genius until its time to be shocked by their predictable ineptitude is what sells on the right. As was evident by the generally GOP reaction to this deal when we first heard about it.

    Extremists like me need be shunned. We’re not nuanced thinkers. We stupidly believe things like John McCain would have done a bigger service to the nation and conservatism had he gone after Barack Obama rather than appear in awe of a black dude who’da done made his momma so proud!

  33. George Orwell says:

    Seems to be working for Hong Kong.

    That’s the wrong kind of “Otherness” to emulate. Not enough melanin, and too industrious.

    The proper Otherness can be found in places like Sudan, Libya, Egypt, Myanmar, etc.

  34. newrouter says:

    On the Sean Hannity radio show, Senator Rand Paul said he is considering a filibuster of the budget agreement that would fund the government from now to September and includes cuts of $39.9 billion.

    link

  35. B. Moe says:

    Extremists like me need be shunned. We’re not nuanced thinkers.

    You just need some diversity in your background.

    http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2011/04/epicfail-wapos-conservative-jennifer-rubin-liberal-democrat-berkeley-grad.html

    I would think about visiting the South Pole.

  36. George Orwell says:

    “She was mildly critical of some of Kerry’s campaign moves during the ’04 campaign, but she wasn’t in the Bush camp.”

    jrubin@dreamworks.com – Undergraduate School: Univ of California Berkeley; Berkeley CA – Law School: UC Berkeley SOL Boalt Hall; Berkeley CA

    It’s almost as if someone scripted this. Just plain hilarious.

  37. George Orwell says:

    say, I didn’t mean to put anyone’s e-mail in that comment, but it is quoted at Riehl.

    sorry bout that

  38. LBascom says:

    “Didn’t see anything from Rubin at WaPo. Haven’t checked NRO, Gabe at AOSHQ or Charlie Martin over at PJM. I suppose they could say that this is new information.”

    Wait, these geniuses didn’t know 1.4 trillion is a much, much larger number than 100 billion 61 billion 39 billion?

    Yeah, they outta stick with discussing non-math related topics.

  39. newrouter says:

    jrubin@dreamworks probably a dead address @ this point

  40. newrouter says:

    gee ya think the stupid party might run some commercials showing our fiscal condition. oh right that might work.

  41. George Orwell says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if it isn’t the Democrats who are the stupid party and the Repubs the dangerous one.

  42. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    George, Can’t they both be stupid and dangerous at the same time? And of course they are.

    Remember when alex_walter tried to pawn himself off as a libertarian? I do. A libertarian who likes himself some federal tax increases? Hmmmm….

  43. newrouter says:

    i think of the rethugs as the vile party:

    “3.
    a. Contemptibly low in worth or account; second-rate.
    b. Of mean or low condition.”

    so the donks are evil. anagram descriptors anyone.

  44. banbait says:

    I don’t know which one of you jokers is ‘banbait,’ but that’s just beautiful. Sauntering into a linguistics blog pushing the narrative that letting a tax cut expire is totally different from just raising taxes. Takes big brass ones, it does.

    Ok, call it raising taxes.

    Besides, why do you think I should pay 50% more in federal income tax, when I can’t afford what I pay now. (Yeah, I’m currently in the 10% bracket that would “expire” and would be moved up to the 15% bracket, I guess that makes me “rich”.)

    I don’t know, Squid. We’ve had some really stupid trolls, and some others that posted crap they know is crap just to get a reaction.

    Wait! I know the answer to this one! Cut your spending.

    banbait is alex_walter. Just can’t quit us.

    Oh, you mean the guy who wrote this: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=23713#comment-1053430

    Nah. It’s apparent that you’re so invested in your ideas that to admit being wrong about much of anything would force an identity crisis that you’d much rather avoid.

    But while we’re on the subject of candid observations, here’s one that I sense you’re just starting to get a whiff of: The blessed tea party movement is stillborn.

    I sense an upcoming wave of disillusionment on the right post 2010 election that’s a mirror image of the disillusionment on the left after the 2008 election. The small government ideas and more narrow interpretation of the commerce clause are going to go exactly nowhere for one important reason:

    You don’t become a rich and powerful set-for-life member of congress by cutting spending. You get there by controlling where vast amounts of money go. Government spending makes powerful friends. Spending cuts? Only enemies. Why would anyone want that?

    What’s the tea party offering as a counter incentive? To have any chance, they need to get off the stick and start showing some obscenely lucrative lobbyist jobs to legislators leaving congress. But I’m not sure where they’d get the money to support that.

    I apparently had no idea what I was talking about.

  45. newrouter says:

    “Wait! I know the answer to this one! Cut your spending.”

    yes i says to the gov’t.

  46. Jeff G. says:

    Oh wow! Alex went out on a limb to tell all us dumbshits that politicians look to protect themselves! His insights…they’re like, Jedi and shit. THANK YOU, OBI WAN!

    Hey, dumbass. I’ve been saying that for years. It’s axiomatic. Where you’re wrong is that you seem to equate the GOP with the Tea Party. We don’t. The Tea Party isn’t stillborn at all. In fact, it’s just getting started.

    Unlike you, who’s finished. Again.

  47. bh says:

    That shit was deep. It, like, realigned my most basic thoughts and shit.

    How long has public choice theory been studied in economics again? I reckon it’s at least two bh lifetime units.

  48. bh says:

    47 was for 44.

  49. Entropy says:

    Didn’t see anything from Rubin at WaPo. Haven’t checked NRO, Gabe at AOSHQ or Charlie Martin over at PJM.

    Haven’t seen Rubin or Gabe respond to it yet. Don’t know who Charlie Martin is. NRO – haven’t seen anything from Andrew Stiles who was the big cheerleader… most of them are decrying it now though.

    Andrew McCarthy and Mark Steyn were spot on from the start though.

    This might be the most glorious thing I’ve ever read on NRO.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/264381/budget-deal-response-andrew-stiles-andrew-c-mccarthy

  50. newrouter says:

    Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

    Tuesday, April 12th at 6:58PM EDT
    3 Comments

    It is becoming more and more clear that Republicans got played in the budget deal. Likewise, envirowackos have gone totally wild.

    link

  51. bh says:

    Charlie Martin at the PJ Tatler.

    From here:

    So far, it appears that the lesson of the comments is that Republicans and too-conservative-to-be-Republicans don’t like arithmetic that disagrees with what they want a lot better than Democrats and too-liberal-etc.

    Stupid plebes with their jaundiced eyes and uncouth cynicism.

    Again, it’s the attitude that most offends. This is essentially a charge of epistemic closure coupled with the notion that math is too hard for some mouth breathers.

    We get plenty of that elsewhere, thanks.

  52. bh says:

    I see that McCarthy has been chided by Ponnurorouro (perfect spelling, I’m sure) over his tone when rebuking the head cheerleader.

    Has Ponnoruroru considered the possibility that sometimes we learn something or another when someone else slaps us down once in awhile?

    Got plenty of that myself when I was younger. The embarrassment didn’t kill me. It motivated me to learn my shit so that I could avoid future embarrassment. I could have sworn that was a good thing.

  53. LBascom says:

    You know nothing of self-esteem bh.

  54. Entropy says:

    So far, it appears that the lesson of the comments is that Republicans and too-conservative-to-be-Republicans don’t like arithmetic that disagrees with what they want a lot better than Democrats and too-liberal-etc.

    Is that english? I’m not even sure what that means.

    Also these charts of his.

    Is that math? I notice it has no numbers on it, just lines.

  55. Entropy says:

    coupled with the notion that math is too hard for some mouth breathers

    What math? He’s drawing lines on graph paper with no reference point.

    I can draw 2 axies and a curvy line and graph “agreement with entropy” against “correctness and factual accuracy” and show stunning correlation all damn day long.

    That wasn’t math, it was an assertion monkey with crayons.

    Assertion monkey asserts, colorfully and in a way that mimics the conventions of human mathematics without demonstrating any capacity for understanding them.

  56. bh says:

    Heh, I suppose so, Lee. I’m not sure that was even a thing back when I was a kid.

    Yeah, Cranky mentioned that as well, Entropy. It’s certainly fun to be condescended to by people leading with their chins, isn’t it?

  57. bh says:

    He declared it arithmetic, Entropy. Don’t question him.

    Troglodyte.

  58. newrouter says:

    “Donald Trump is your worst enemy.”

    yes his money to rahm/schumer underlines that. but it is fun to watch baraky’s media mouth pieces skirm concerning the cob.

  59. newrouter says:

    “Donald Trump is your worst enemy.”

    the communists in the demonrat party are my worst enemy

  60. JHoward says:

    Charlie Martin is wrong on anything involving a dollar sign. His idea of a good time is apparently kiting up debts and inflation for as long as the presses can be made to run.

    Either he’s on Wall Street running machine trades or he really is clueless he’s touting the Democrat line 24/7.

  61. Jeff G. says:

    This might be the most glorious thing I’ve ever read on NRO.

    Don’t read the majority of the comments, then.

    The right seems to have been taken over by the minions of Moran while I’ve been wandering here in the wilderness.

  62. newrouter says:

    “Because while Mr. Trump is entertaining you he’s putting a torpedo in the side of the Tea Party.”

    not really. butthead you be “reality based” communist. dream on.

  63. newrouter says:

    “The right seems to have been taken over by the minions of Moran while I’ve been wandering here in the wilderness.”

    battle lines being drawn

  64. Jeff G. says:

    I don’t think Ponnoaluamanorro wouldn much like me.

  65. Bob Reed says:

    Dude!
    What kind of BS is Martin spouting? This is the same old, “We’ll GROW! OUR! WAY! OUT! OF! DEBT!“, snake oil we’ve been hearing for 25 years. The problem is that at some point, the Congress decides to spend some of that sweet, sweet, “revenue surplus”, Martin’s metric-less chart depicts…

    I’m sorry Charlie, but there’s no way that Boehner’s 100 billion, 61 billion, 38 billion less than 15 BILLION dollar cuts are even statistically signifigant in a year that we’ll be booking a more than 1.5 trillion dollar deficit.

    His whole article is fantasy, and responses in the comment thread are condescending.

  66. newrouter says:

    i want to thank the baraky for pointing out the idiots in the right’s flank.

  67. Jeff G. says:

    I know for certain PJM no longer likes me.

  68. Jeff G. says:

    The problem. newrouter, is that they control “our” narrative.

  69. JD says:

    Alecwalter the douchenozzle is on one of its manic benders again.

  70. Sarah Rolph says:

    Your mention of juleps brought this classic recipe to mind.

    (Found at epicurious.com, credited to one Henry Watterson, described at the Pulitzer Prize-winning editor of The Louisville Courier-Journal; I first read this in one of my cookbooks but I can’t remember which one; it is supposed to go on longer than this, but the snippet will suffice)

    “Pluck the mint gently from its bed, just as the dew of the evening is about to form upon it … Prepare the simple syrup and measure out a half-tumbler of whiskey.” (Bourbon is a style of whiskey, after all.) “Pour the whiskey into a well-frosted silver cup, throw the other ingredients away and drink the whiskey.”

  71. Bob Reed says:

    Fuck PJM. I never go there save for when someone who’s opinion I respect here links there. Most of them are part of the good men gang.

  72. newrouter says:

    “newrouter, is that they control “our” narrative.”

    maybe but levin slapped it down on day one and by day 2-4 it was exposed as a fraud with jenrubin et al mia. keep hope alive for hope and change or sumthing.

  73. geoffb says:

    Ok, call it raising taxes.

    It’s all about the fatuousness that is called “fairness”.

    The crucial point here is that what Obama is interested in is not increasing revenue but in promulgating redistributionist policies that make it harder for people to prosper economically.

    Spreading the misery around is what they do best.

  74. Darleen says:

    The blessed tea party movement is stillborn.

    Fer cryin’ out loud — Some version of that pronouncement has been tossed around since about 2 months after the first TEA Party protests started

    3 freaking years ago …

  75. Darleen says:

    geoffb

    It’s the great “transformative” thingy Obama promised …

    The economy is to no longer be one based on private business, but one commanded by Those.Who.Know.Best in Big Government.

    They already know how to feed/parent our kids, what light bulbs we should use, what showerheads, that we need to give up our selfish private cars and use high speed rail

    obviously we are too stupid to run businesses or pursue the careers/jobs we might like.

    Hey FIVE YEAR PLANS!!!

    It will work this time. Really.

  76. bh says:

    keep hope alive for hope and change or sumthing.

    My apologies, I know it’s too early for songs but one keeps hope alive (olympic remix) so that one can get within seconds of a five minute mile.

    Alternately, so that one can most enjoy rolling their nuts off and dancing with some crazy girls from Loyola who are holding actual opium.

  77. bh says:

    Try it. You’ll see. The song really does work for both scenarios.

  78. Entropy says:

    Don’t read the majority of the comments, then.

    The right seems to have been taken over by the minions of Moran while I’ve been wandering here in the wilderness.

    Oh, I did read them, and yes they sucked. But McCarthy’s bitch-slap was still epic, all the more so that it’s his cubicle neighbor colleague.

    I don’t know what is up with the Moran-takeover stuff lately.

    I don’t put too much stock in any public indicators anymore because you never know what is true. Sitting around pondering whether the democrats are going Cloward-Piven and all that… I’m through the fucking looking glass. I don’t know what anything means. I don’t know if everyone’s lying. I dunno if Boner is getting screwed or in on the screwing. I dunno for certain WTF Trump is really doing. God knows I’ve no use for polls. So much theater.

    Like I think I said once before, my litmus is going to be the ’12 primaries. Will the Tea Party come back and bitch slap the GOP some more?

    If so, there’s hope.

    If not, I’m gonna go back to huffing furniture cleaner, get a lot of target practice, and wait for the government to collapse.

  79. geoffb says:

    It will work this time. Really.

    Always has “worked” for certain meanings of “worked”. And it also always comes back to language and meaning which is why I’m here.

  80. newrouter says:

    “I don’t put too much stock in any public indicators anymore because you never know what is true. Sitting around pondering whether the democrats are going Cloward-Piven and all that… I’m through the fucking looking glass. I don’t know what anything means. ”

    stop listening to glenn beck /sarc off

  81. Swen says:

    17. Squid posted on 4/12 @ 3:19 pm
    — snip —
    What is it that makes a guy who can’t count to 21 without unzipping his fly think that anyone cares what he has to say about numbers utterly beyond his comprehension?

    In AJB’s case I can’t see that getting him to more than about 20 & 1/3 :D

  82. Entropy says:

    I don’t even listen to Glen Beck.

    But who knows what these jackass scheisters are pulling or who’s responsible for what.

    I think I’m very resistant to conspiracy mongering, honestly, but really I’m running out of places to dodge them. Shit is screwy.

  83. Swen says:

    27. Jeff G. posted on 4/12 @ 3:54 pm
    National Review had an editorial today saying we owed Boehner thanks and gratitude.

    So.

    I’d be even more thankful if he’d used lube….

  84. newrouter says:

    “I don’t even listen to Glen Beck.”

    if you want to know what the “left” is up to, gb is a good source. proof: see the attack against beck from soros funded media. it is fun to do 1969-1979 over again in 2 years NOT.

  85. bh says:

    OT: Jeff, you have to see this shit. He starts going with a weight vest and ankle weights at around 3:50. Man.

  86. SDN says:

    But I’m not sure where they’d get the money to support that.

    Doesn’t cost us anything to hound these people out of their districts. Imagine never being able to show your face in public again like that jerk from Nebraska.

    Tar and feathers ain’t that expensive either.

  87. Swen says:

    41. George Orwell posted on 4/12 @ 4:39 pm
    I’m beginning to wonder if it isn’t the Democrats who are the stupid party and the Repubs the dangerous one.

    They’re usually characterized as the Stupid Party and the Evil Party, but I’ve come to the conclusion that both parties are Stupid and Evil by turns, and that makes them all dangerous.

  88. Jeff G. says:

    OT: Jeff, you have to see this shit

    That’s like chimpanzee strength.

    Pull-ups are some of my worst exercises. I do them weighted, but I’m not very good at them. And I’m far too old and thick to ever dream of that level of conditioning again. Amazing.

  89. Entropy says:

    proof: see the attack against beck from soros funded media

    The soros funded media will attack anyone they please. It hardly speaks very much. It’s not an exclusive club.

    But I do not get the anger directed at Beck on the right. O’Reilly, I do not think is horribly detrimental to have people watching, a great deal better than Olbermann, but I get why people on the right hate him. I don’t much like him. Beck notsomuch.

    Although I don’t listen and only hear/see what clips get posted around the web from time to time, I actually like the guy. From all I’ve seen he seems to be fairly substantive, entertaining, honest, and clever.

    I don’t watch TV news though, I don’t watch fox.. The only talk radio I listen to is 890AM in Chicago and even then, the only program I really like on it is Rush Limbaugh, and even then, I just put it on for background noise while I’m working and catch maybe 1/4 of his show.

    I use to watch a lot more news and listen to alot more talk radio but I started cutting back and cutting back some more, finding no down side to my news downsizing and several upsides. From all I can tell I’m missing very little really.

    I’m increasingly becoming ‘that type of person’ I use to boggle at, who doesn’t really watch TV even. It’s always on for background noise, usually on the Science, History International or Military channel, but I don’t pay much attention apart from a few select series and some occaisional comedy.

  90. bh says:

    Yeah, I’m thinking that Chernobyl had at least one positive consequence.

  91. Donald Trump says:

    I think it’s suspicious that Obama hasn’t said his birth certificate isn’t in China that’s our enemy. When I’m president, if I decide to run, I’ll make them hand it over. Muslim.

    The great thing about my candidacy is that I make all the “serious” Republican candidates seem reasoned almost no matter what they say. I’m setting the benchmark for extreme. And I’ll make it easy to dismiss the Tea Party in one fell swoop.

    winning

  92. Swen says:

    74. Darleen posted on 4/12 @ 7:07 pm
    The blessed tea party movement is stillborn.

    Fer cryin’ out loud — Some version of that pronouncement has been tossed around since about 2 months after the first TEA Party protests started

    3 freaking years ago …

    Wishful thinking never goes out of style, even when it’s silly. The fiscal problems that spawned the TEA Parties have only gotten worse, how likely is it that the people who were alarmed three years ago have now grown complacent? To think that’s even remotely possible you’ve got to be willfully delusional.

  93. newrouter says:

    “But I do not get the anger directed at Beck on the right.”

    well the “right” has been redefined in the last few days. over to you jen rubin/peteywehner.

  94. Slartibartfast says:

    There’s a thread about the Ikea thing over at obsidianwings. I’m trying to determine in comments what the proposed alternative is, and what it is that’s supposed to be objectionable.

    So far, all I can see that looks in the least bit untoward is the mandatory overtime. What kind of company does that, when they can just hire more people?

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