Somebody’d better contact these “moderate” Republicans and tell them that to “compromise” on something that is to the left of FDR, for Chrissakes, is to surrender the country. Period. Full stop.
Thing is, if Walker’s coalition breaks down, Ohio will do the deed.
That supposed GOP “moderates” are looking for some cheap grace here is repulsive enough. But doing so after watching the thuggish, childish, and downright anti-democratic behavior of the left over this past, just goes to show that the establishment GOP is fighting tooth and nail to remain the party of surrender.
Fair warning: if the GOP goes this route and decides to follow the “moderates,” it is essentially dead as a party. To me, at least.
Period.
Full stop.
(h/t Terry H)
Those guys are fucking pussies. If they stand firm, they will win. However, they apparently lost their spines some time ago.
I hope they all choke.
squish – “hey let’s negotiate with terrorists”
the voice that counts
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Gotta vote for those big tent Repub moderates too so we can gain the majority and thus the agenda…. Oh, wait…Uh…Hmmm???
The pragmatards are speaking out? Looks like the train is right on time.
I called for this to be over by Wednesday. I may need a new more-better jinx.
When I lived in WI, Shultz was my guy. So disappointed in his squishyness…
i don’t think squishes win here. walker knows the probs with unions at a local level.
There’s nothing “moderate” about caving on something like this. They deserve a frozen cheese log in the squeakhole if they don’t back the fuck down.
if the GOP goes this route and decides to follow the “moderates,” it is essentially dead as a party.
the politicians? DEAD!
their political familiy DEAD!
their political house of cards BURNED TO THE GROUND!
(wanna go their in the middle of the night an’ piss on the ashes?)
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Disclaimer: violence is bayhad. m’kayy?
So teach your children well or else we’ll have nobody to work our fields or pay our taxes.
quoth Walker. If he fails (rather, if Team R fails him) he’ll be finished as a national politician. But if he wins…this man could have 2016 or 2020 in his pocket.
Oh, and blogs are dead.
What is this “twitter” thing you speak of? Is it anything like My Face-space Book?
Well, not the ‘meaty’ blogs…
and do they say that blogs are dead-dead or only mostly dead?
Only mostly dead then.
What a terrible situation when the blog world is being deprived of the thoughts of teenagers. Next the NYT will tell us that bored housewives have abandoned blogs in order to tweet their favorite recipes.
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How goes the recall strategy? You’d think at least one of those democrats would be vulnerable to a recall, wouldn’t you?
Which of the Democrat Wisconsin state senators (that fled to Illinois to shirk their elected duties) are potentially subject to voter recall efforts?
Some lefty said that Lincoln once jumped out of a window to avoid a vote in the Illinois State House. No word on whether he ran to Wisconsin or swam to Michigan, however.
According to to all the legislative staffers we’ve been speaking with, Shulz isn’t getting anywhere with this and Walker and leadership are standing a dozen steps past staunch. So, I’m not getting ready for them to cave, I’m getting ready to continue winning.
Starting Tuesday we start pushing everything through on the agenda that doesn’t require a 3/5s quorum for finance. Let them stay in Illinois for awhile longer. We’ll have half our bills passed in a week.
All Schulz is doing here is putting a giant target on his back for a primary. Good for him.
There’s movement on a couple separate recalls, Ernst.
Oh, Schulz has been hearing about it. Don’t have any doubts about that.
Here’s his contact info:
Madison Office
Room 122 South
State Capitol
P.O. Box 7882
Madison, WI 53707-7882
Telephone
(608) 266-0703 Or
(800) 978-8008
District Telephone
(608) 647-4614
Fax
(608) 267-0375
Email
Sen.Schultz@legis.wisconsin.gov
Schultz not Schulz.
That’s the spirit! You’ve got until June to pass the budget, right? Make them pay for every day they’re not doing their jobs.
shultz “i zee nothing i know nothing”
We can special session them to death, Pablo. If one of them is here, we’re call a session. Whether it’s midnight next Sunday or sometime in July.
Of course, all their staffers will start going without pay and offices pretty quickly. They might prefer sooner rather than later.
This is an open secret so there’s no problem mentioning something here. They actually can’t cave. The whole budget is going to require an element in this bill, the collective bargaining on benefits.
The teachers get their health policies from WEAC. It costs a shitload. If the teachers moved onto the state plan instead, it saves somewhere around $70 million. Now, guess how much we’re going to cut state aid to local school districts in the coming budget. $70 million.
We know we’re striking the king here. We’re not being timid.
Take away WEAC’s health plan scheme. Take away automatic union deductions. Take away the need to join the union. Require a yearly secret vote.
We’re playing to win. They’re… what exactly?
It’s why we’re all saying endgame, endgame, endgame. It reminds our side we have many paths to complete success and they have none.
I can’t believe this is going down in Wisconsin of all places. Did not see that one coming.
But if Walker crushes the unions, this could be actual progress.
So why this Republican “Gang of Pussies”? Why even float a compromise?
I called Walker a hero before the protests started. I saw the endgame — but I was dubious he would pull it off. So far, he’s really showing me — and the nation — something. The establishment GOP had better pay attention… If he wins here, they are obsolete.
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There’s no gang as far as I can tell and Schultz was floating this even before the shit went down.
Why is he floating it? Well, because he’s an asshole that needs to be removed from office as soon as possible. That’s on the todo list now.
1. Pressure local school boards and superintendents to do their jobs in progressive districts.
2. Go after “sick” teachers.
3. Recall absent Dems who’ve been in office over a year.
4. Get those doctors disciplined.
5. Push through all non-finance bills.
6. Pass budget repair bill.
7. Win the Supreme Court election.
and…
8. Take Dale Schultz out of office.
We’re working on it. Problem is, there are fewer workers than people might imagine. Trying to keep their spirits up is a major priority and we have years of work left.
9. Move to Wisconsin!
I’m a northwoods kind of guy. If Wisconsin wants to be the Texas of the Big Woods, then I guess I’ll just have to learn to live with Cheezhedz (sigh).
From all accounts — and this includes speaking with staffers myself and talking with others who have done the same — the protesters have created an nearly perfect “external threat creates internal cohesion” dynamic. Also, they realize that they’ve thoroughly pissed off those on the other side and could only do the same with their own base if they caved in now. That’s a suicidal position to now shift to.
So, yeah, we’re pressuring Schultz like mad but we don’t want the legislators to start thinking he’s made any progress with anonymous colleagues. And, seriously, by all accounts, he hasn’t.
A for an.
(And, just imagine this comment also corrects all other spelling and grammatical mistakes I’ve made over the past few weeks.)
If you stay to the northwest of the state, Ernst, you don’t even need to change teams. There’s as much purple as green up there.
Could there be a finer place to start driving the stake into progressivism? It is truly a thing of beauty.
Since Wisconsin spawned the demon Progressivism, what better place to drive a stake through it’s undead heart?
If Wisconsin would fix its gun laws, I might be interested. MN is still better on that front.
[…] 2: Jeff G, for one, won’t be happy with the WI State Senators if they compromise here–even if the situation could theoretically […]
Fix the gun laws?
Sounds like concealed carry will be one of the things pushed through this week while the Dems are valiantly hiding. I’ve been hearing voter ID as well.
You mean right to carry of course.
I wish California Dems would conveniently run off and hide for a few weeks…
Stroszek left me with the impression that there’s a gun every three feet in Wisconsin.
Yes, you’re right, Lee.
Towards Schultz, Walker said this today (http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Neither-side-budging-in-Wisconsin-union-fight-1023021.php#page-1):
Sounds like Schultz stands alone.
That’s not far off, Abe. We probably have one of the largest disparities between our gun laws and our culture in the country.
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Yes, please. And more, thank you.
ad this to the list:
“Governor Jim Doyle made it official Thursday, Dec. 10: He signed into law AB 172, the Labor History in the Schools bill, culminating 12 years of efforts by key legislators, workers, unions and others to pass legislation to assure the teaching of labor history and collective bargaining.”
You betcha, Pablo.
I can google it but could you give me a link on that, newrouter? That’s the sort of thing that keeps people fired up.
Here, bh.
Thanks.
I ‘spect the events of the last week are teaching folks in WI more about the Labor movement than any dippy-ass “Labor Studies” class ever would have managed. Learing is so much easier when you have good examples and Teachable Moments…
bh here:
Wisconsin Labor History Society
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“Learing is so much easier when you have good examples and Teachable Moments…”
true but this would eliminate future brain deformities in youthful noggins.
Thanks as well, nr.
I certainly hope so, John. It seems to be working out that way so far.
“Learing”? Damnit, the Kaiser stole (some of) my ‘N’s!
here’s some “learing”
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I have to say that the best part about what’s going on in Wisconsin and elsewhere is that it literally makes it impossible for Obama to play the phony centrist as we approach ’12. There’s simply no way he can hold the center and placate a base that is riddled with parasites.
a base that is riddled with
parasitesmoonbats.