85% of Egyptians believe Islam’s role in politics is positive. 48% want it to play a large role in politics. 59% of Egyptians identify with Muslim fundamentalists, while only 27% identify with modernizers. 49% of Egyptians have a favorable view of Hamas. And 20% hold a favorable view of Al-Qaeda.
But hey — they Tweet! So, like, you know.
What could possibly go wrong?
OH, you’re such a pessimist Jeff. The Egyptian MILITARY is in charge. Don’t you wingnuts LOVE the military:
FREEDOM.
Hey, you forgot to mention that estimates go as high as 95% for FGM for Egyptian women. Because nothing says love of freedom than making sure your women don’t enjoy sex.
untrustworthy bitches.
The modernizers may have led the protests, but I don’t think for a moment they’ll have much influence on the next government.
Any Mustafah Kemal types in the Egyptian Military. Oh wait. He was a dictator.
Nevermind.
You’re missing the optics here, Carin.
The world is about marketing. Nothing more. Freedom is as freedom looks (while the camera is turned on).
After that, who cares? WHERE’S THE NEXT CAUSE I CAN CHAMPION FOR A MONTH OR SO?
I am sure the Copts are just giddy over the possibilities for the future.
How is that visa application to the States going?
You know whose negatives are high? Israel. Cancel them.
Put on “Glee,” instead.
Carin, Egyptian men think that little man in the boat just causes trouble.
Disney is already working on Egyptian Revolution, The Musical.
I think all the angst and anger in the ME can all be tied back to FGM.
What’s the point of your wife not cheating on you, saving her flower for ONLY YOU, when the sex sucks?
Reminds me of my favourite Dennis Miller quote of “having to run the gauntlet of mind stupefying mediocrity that passes for network executives to make to the other side and still hold ones creative soul intact”.
That is what passes for foreign policy now, except that the mediocrity is replaced by stupefying incompetence. You know we can’t press our advantage with the military. Now that Egypt is free, who needs the police in the police state. Let them find their way to salvation. Send Jimmah and some of Hugo’s boys over to vouch for the legitimacy of the elections.
Insty is characterizing this (or, at least accepting someone else’s characterization) as a military coup. I’m not sure that is particularly apt. The question is whether this is the military stepping in and sticking a fork in the already-done Mubarak in order to preserve some semblance of order; or this is the military making their move after locking down the Muslim Brotherhood; or this is the military making their move after being co-opted by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Don Fanucci will be on at one this afternoon to wet his beak … so to speak
Maybe 50 years from now they can try to throw off the oppressors they are about to embrace. It probably won’t work, but they can try.
I think the best thing about this is that the Muslim Brotherhood really hasn’t infiltrated the Egyptian military at all. ACK-THPWP-HACK! HACK! COUGH! HACK!…..erm…Sorry, I just can’t swallow it.
The point is SHE doesn’t know it sucks Carin
HONOR! MACHISMO!
Carin, it is absolutely insane.
Then again, we are talking about a religion that makes it an ideal for a fifty four year old guy to have a nine year old wife. Funny how Amanda Maracotte is not all over this.
ThomasD, a couple of the guys in the Hudson Institute panel yesterday thought as you do, that the military coup took place many years ago (1957?) and hasn’t released its grip since.
I hope Obama calls for a renewed uprising in Iran.
I give it a 70% chance.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, but only for her.
I remember when the media was giddy about the democratic revolution in Iran in 1979.
Optics.
I saw the interview with the Egyptian google guy on CNN, that supposedly started the protests (and soon to be disposed for his troubles) and thought to myself, This fucking guy? Mubarak is losing to this fucking patsy? He’s gone soft.
Frank Lopez was not available for comment
“Hey, Hosni! See that mob out there? It’s getting really tough to hold them back. We’re not sure how much longer we’re going to be able to do it. Do you really want to be here when they get in?”
Is that a coup?
Students and freedom, baby! What’s not to love? That was a great 9 months, wasn’t it? Well, unless you were being held hostage during them, I suppose.
#18 Yes, somewhere in Egyptian military headquarters this is playing out.
Only they’re indoors, more finely dressed, at less than arms length, and smiling at each other while sipping sweet tea.
What’s the point of your wife not cheating on you, saving her flower for ONLY YOU, when the sex sucks?
Yeah, but only for her.
Yea, I’m sure the sex is great when you have a rather unwilling partner for whom it is performing a duty and most likely painful.
“Hey, Hosni! See that mob out there? It’s getting really tough to hold them back. We’re not sure how much longer we’re going to be able to do it. Do you really want to be here when they get in?”
Is that a coup?
“Yes, fly me elsewhere. Where did I place my banking information?” Looks around. “Ah, there it is. Yes, let’s go!”
400 million? I think I read that figure the other day.
You can smack that unwilling part right out of her. Allah is down wid it.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Get fooled again and again.
But remember, you cannot beat her indiscriminantly. There are guidelines.
What could possibly go wrong?
The NYT could give Glenn Beck a birthday present?
400 million? I think I read that figure the other day.
I heard something starting with “B.”
Will the Egyptian central power turn to inculcating a hatred of the great external enemy in order to divert the masses attention? It’s worked before. May as well expect to see it again, though possibly after a short breathing space to get people back to work.
Linky to NYT article referenced in my 31.
Also, it’s Sarah Palin’s birthday today, and it was Glenn Beck’s yesterday. They were born the same year. I was born 99 days before Glenn.
COINCIDENCE!?!?!? I THINK NOT!
Jen Rubin asks “As after Tunisia, the world now begins to wonder: Which despot is the next to go?”
What the heck, I nominate the Castro bros. and Hugo Chavez.
The despotic despots don’t go sdferr. That’s what makes them despots.
FREEDOM square: Smells Like Teen Spirit
Jen Rubin asks “As after Tunisia, the world now begins to wonder: Which despot is the next to go?”
I’m not putting any money on Putin going, that’s for sure.
heh
Here’s a thought – I wonder if Barrett Brown is off to Moscow to organise an anarchistic uprising of smart, educated, non-religious Russkis? On account of the FREEDOM?
How long until it looks like Bloody Sunday?
The Egyptian government is now in the hands of a junta, is facing a constitutional crisis, faces domestic and international pressures of unimaginable proportion, and the dominos fall. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Historic can have many meanings, most end badly.
Which despot is the next to go?”
– Bummblefuck comes to mind, but then again “Telepromter Tyrants” are just empty suits, so they even suck at despotism.
Go wrong? Everything could go wrong. Then again, maybe not. The Army is in (as expected) and that isn’t anything new. Constitutionally speaking that is normal for Egypt, and so is the concept that after elections it will be the government of whomever the Army backs. If the Muslim Brotherhood wants to get in they will have to infiltrate the Army officer corps, and I don’t know if they have had any success there and I bet I know more than either Panetta or Clapper.
So once again – it all depends on where the Army is.
– Hysterical might be more apropos, particularly from the Golden Unicorns in the WH.
Sayeth Barcky, “Let me be clear, it has always been our position …”
In terms of the constitution of Egypt, army control is the norm. In terms of the black letter law of the 1980 Egyptian Constitution, the army is acting unconstitutionally.
I guess they forgot to pinky-swear when they forswore an Army takeover ever again.
…says the sweet talking guy who is self-marketing egotistical functional idiot.
What?
Camera Lights come on and presser commences:
….“Let me be clear, it has always been our position….”(teleprompter skips, and goes dark)”….um…..that we simply don’t have a fucking clue…um…I’ll take questions now….”
The comment about the sandworms being sighted on the outskirts of the Giza plateau made me laugh.
Ernst: I htink it goes something like this: “There is the secret clause that says that the boys who vote with M-16’s get to be the electoral college. Wait – that’s not in there? Look closer, much closer…yes, that is a pistol…oh! You found it! Good for you. You get to live.”
The problem with all of this is “the fremen” are really the Muslim Brotherhood and vice versa.
Don’t want to discuss it
I think it’s time for a change
You may get disgusted
And think Im strange
In that case I’ll go underground
Get some heavy rest
Never have to worry
About what is worst and what is best
Oh oh domino
Roll me over romeo
There you go
Lord have mercy
I said oh oh domino
Roll me over romeo
There you go
Say it again
I said oh oh domino
I said oh oh domino
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#51 Joe,
Heh.
Obama conference rescheduled for 3 pm. When Rush is off for the weekend.
some say coincidence, but Rush always brings this up and I think it’s pretty funny.
Friday afternoon dump.
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Spiny & Joe-Does that mean don’t walk like an Egyptian?
Close: He said it’d take time. Freedom, I think he meant. Freedom by the eventual but inevitable rule of a remarkable degree of western-style liberalism, equality, choice, tolerance, and rights. In the middle of a region of resurgent fundamentalism.
He sounded almost classically liberal. Liberty!
I guess that would be an uprising, wouldn’t it?
It stunk. But it sounded great! Lying by omission typically does.
pepsi moment
Dave Burge tweets:
As for witnessing history: Who would have guessed a few years ago that the one bright spot in the Middle East would be Iraq?
They would have called you meshugena.
Joe –
Ummm..
The little man in the boat CAN be quite a trouble maker. He has a unique ability to cloud men’s minds when his mind is put to that task…
“I give it a 70% chance.”
Normally laughing at your own joke doesn’t make it funnier but somehow this one was different.
Maybe it was the … things;^)
They would have called you meshugena.
Is that yiddish for macacca?
Claire Berlinski on “What the Turkish military is thinking“.
After reading it I think another question would be, what is the Egyptian military thinking in light of what is happening in Turkey?
She also links to the Victor Davis Hanson piece, “The Obama doctrine at play in Egypt“.
OT: Today I saw the armadillo hitchhiking to Pine Mountain, GA with a couple of strippers he must have picked up in Atlanta. I know it was him because when I stopped to offer him a ride he leered at my Bronco and said, “Nice truck, Nancy. Compensate much?”
I would have stayed to chat with him some more but I think he was serious about slashing my tires.
#63 – I said it would be a bright spot, back in 2008. But I was there, so I might have been sufferinng from observational bias of some sort. Of course, I didn’t say “only”.
I count Israel as a bright spot too. I had more hope for Lebanon back then as well… damn.
Is there anything more vapid than saying that we are “witnessing history” – you do that everyday, sheesh.