At a time when workers’ pay and benefits have stagnated, federal employees’ average compensation has grown to more than double what private sector workers earn, a USA TODAY analysis finds.
Federal workers have been awarded bigger average pay and benefit increases than private employees for nine years in a row. The compensation gap between federal and private workers has doubled in the past decade.
Federal civil servants earned average pay and benefits of $123,049 in 2009 while private workers made $61,051 in total compensation, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The data are the latest available.
The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,415 in 2000 to $61,998 last year.
Public employee unions say the compensation gap reflects the increasingly high level of skill and education required for most federal jobs and the government contracting out lower-paid jobs to the private sector in recent years.
“The data are not useful for a direct public-private pay comparison,” says Colleen Kelley, president of the National Treasury Employees Union.
Chris Edwards, a budget analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, thinks otherwise. “Can’t we now all agree that federal workers are overpaid and do something about it?” he asks.
Sure we can! We can all get federal jobs — and let the government print more money to pay us. Instant equality!
And the best part? As a permanent Democrat majority, we can they just keeping voting ourselves more and more money, so long as we call it “stimulus” and suggest that anyone who gripes is a greedy, homophobic racist who hates America.
See? Back from the brink. Rejoice!
I heard this morning some public employees’ union spokeswhore claiming that gubmint cubical drones have much more complex jobs and require much more edumacation than drooling ignorant private sector shlubs, so there!
That’s what is sounded like, at any rate.
It wasn’t all that long ago that one took a Federal job with the knowledge that one would make less than one could in the private sector, trading that for more job security. Now, you can not only make more money, but you have even more job security. Such a deal!
I didn’t hear the name of who was speaking, but I guess it was that Colleen Kelley person. I DO know I damn near fell off my chair when I heard it.
You have to know more in the private sector, not less, because you never know when you might have to switch jobs.
Once we all have public sector jobs, the government will be deciding how much money we all make, along with deciding how much we get to keep. Isn’t that wonderful?
Via Cafe Hayek, a couple guys (1 and 2) spanking Krugman over his defense of same.
cranky,
There is absolutely no reason for Federal employees with Civil Service protections to have a union. They didn’t until 1965, I believe, and what’s remarkable is that it took this long before they became as arrogant as they are today.
you couldn’t pay me enough to be an SEIU cocksucker I’d rather eat jiffy corn muffins and pork and beans and learn what the fuck “pectins” are
Combine the lavish compensation with the palpable floundering and decay and we’ve got a tinderbox waiting to be lit. See.
Aren’t pectins those muscles at the top of ones chest?
– Well pretty soon it won’t even take a taxpayers revolt to end the pillage.
– There simply won’t be enough taxpayers left to matter anymore.
– When the lead horse topples over everyone will get to suffer equaly.
– EQUALITY…….it’s what’s for dinner!
This is depressing. The reason third world shitholes are third world shitholes is because of this kind of crap. Systemic coruption.
Private sector workers are underpaid thanks to union-busting and systemic attacks on worker bargaining power despite increasingly high worker productivity. Therefore, we must gut the salaries of public sector workers so that only business executives and high-ranking administrators have a decent living.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire
Damn those progressive CommieNazis!! Free market capitalism had so much going for it before they came along.
Once again, AJB does us the great favor of demonstrating what blinkered ignorance looks like.
Did he really just say “union-busting”? Like out loud and shit?
And patently ridiculous strawman arguments, too!
Wow, he’s on a roll today.
So you’re saying AJB serves some kind of purpose? I’ll have to think about that.
LMFAO! He can’t be fucking serious. The Triangle Shirt Waist fire?
He did, B Moe, he did, out loud and shit!
O_O
“….Therefore, we must gut the salaries of public sector workers….”
– We don’t need to gut anybody, just move the mass of unnecessary public dole employees back into productive private sector jobs where they belong.
– But the Financial group is not going to lift a finger to restart the engine of industry until the Lefturds are out of office.
– It’s called small, limited waste governance AJB, and you can’t beat it, it’s not possible. You and your fellow travelers will learn that, either the easy way or the hard way. Makes no difference to the movers and shakers.
The only moving and shaking AJB understands happens in the bathroom.
AJB is an elaborate joke, I have a feeling.
Must be. Kaufman, is that you?
Is it of any interest that living decently has been replaced with a decent living, no mention of the manner to be made? Only in passing, I guess.
“Union busting” in the private sector causes GS folks to make piles of cash, great benefits that far outstrip costs and have all but tenure in their positions? Who knew?
I guess we can look at the job creating success of unions like the UAW, aye?
Would to God there could be such a thing as “union busting” in Government.
Buy a gun. Teach your own children. Don’t set your house on fire. That’s how we roll out in the country.
Oh, and we use the internets too.
Oh yeah. Sorry about that.
And not only more skills and education but a lot we work twice as harder so we should be making four times as much as yous i think.
Love the Godfather reference sdferr. And the advantage that public sector unions have over private sector ones is that the public sector gets to elect the management they’ll be negotiating with. No wonder the UAW wanted to join the public sector.
*you*
Someone please esplain to me why pubic workers need pensions? Are they too stupid to save their money?
I mean,they make more than us, and then we pay them when they stop working too.
Does AJB have an explanation?
That was one funny misspelling, Carin. To me at least.
Comment by Jack Kennedy
Oh yeah. Sorry about that.
Not your fault Mr. President. Obviously you were having a hard time thinking clearly, what with half your brain still in Dallas.
That was rude.
That was one funny misspelling, Carin. To me at least.
You mean my “esplain?” I member when I used to write prolly prolly prolly just to piss off what’s-his-name.
Really, though, it’s ’cause I was a huge I love Lucy fan. That Desi was a hoot.
That was rude.
Too soon?
We all need to score federal gigs!
But wait…who will pay for it all?
– Mz Ball used lots of gauze and Vaseline on the camera lens near the end of her rein, wonder what Bumbblefuck and the Lefturds will use near the end of theirs, since smoke and mirrors is pretty much exhausted.
No, Carin, I missed that the first time through.
Then again, in programming, one must sometimes declare functions and variables as “public” and “private” and once when I was doing an example for the class on a whiteboard, I left out the “l.” Twice.
– Just as long as you didn’t leave out the “l”.
The executive order, I meant.*
Ha. ah, yes. I see it now.
Oh, and for the record, I’m fine with any joke that doesn’t involve Teddy. He’s just embarrassing.
BBH, are you going to try to battle me about spelling rules? You shall lose, sir. The period goes inside the quotes.
*you*
…can see Dealy Plaza from the Texas Eagle!
in America it’s in the quotes but back home in the British Isles outside the quotes is preferred I think
“l” and “I”….. the textual equivalent of “two, “to, and “too” on the computer.
– All fonts are not equal. What?. Whats the meaning of this intolerance.
– This discrimination should be brought to the attention of the Central committee on fonts immediately!
I’m gonna put it inside if it’s a quote of a statement with a period, and outside if it isn’t. Makes my own damn rules I does.
I think that makes jolly good sense really
– Once it became widely known that vagina in French is masculine, all bets were off, and it sure answers a whole lot of other questions.
and then i violates ’em just for fun
My mistake, BBH. My apologies. I’m crankier than usual today. Whats almost funny is that I noticed the font issue, too, and it irked me a bit. Then again, I’m easily irked.
And sdferr, all I can say to that is OUTLAW!!
Never let the facts get in the way of a cruel joke.
Neo-neocon noticed an economic correlate in the poverty of journalism today. Could be a thing.
I do what I want!
#51 – Soros must be husbanding his cash. Besides, young turks can always be controlled easier through their short arm and small head.
– Um…#54 that is.
AJB is huffing model glue again today, huh?
Carin has pubic workers?
Heh, I would have giggled like a young schoolgirl. I’m like that.
Pubic variables: the landing strip, the Hitler, the ’70s, the Brazilian…
pubic work will get you arrested unless you film it. Then it’s art.
– Just another slice of Americana.
– You could do it on Pubic television.
Anyone here on pubic assistance?
This feels like it’s been done before.
– They have vouchers now for Pubic assistance.
– #66, You must have gotten used merchandise.
bh – I thought the Brazilian and the Landing Strip were one and the same.
It’s been done before, it will be done again. It’s not old, it’s evergreen.
Meant the full Brazilian. See, this is why we need to declare the pubic variables up front. Otherwise it gets confusing.
Anyone projecting when the trend brings the hair back?
– I’m not going near anything in that area that’s green.
Is the full Brazilian when they was your nipples and squeakhole too?
sdferr – Never
Are you thinking any hair, or the whole 70s porn star never-shorn look?
Respectfully JD, you’re nuts.
Nuts, yes. Shaved.
“…thinking any hair…?”
Noper, specifically pubic hair, though who knows, underarm hair may be next. There’s just no telling with these hominids.
This one has gone waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off the rails, thanks to Carin. The freak. I blame Bush.
Ok then, drawing back, how long before tattooing becomes not just passe but looked on as genuinely dopey?
– Back on topic…Well I for one, do not think Federal workers should be allowed to double their privates, even if they do earn it.
depilator …just another job Americans won’t do…
I blame Bush.
You accidentally capitalized the “b” JD.
“I blame Bush.”
– Don’t get us started again…..
In exchange for a cut in pay, I would agree to give every hot lady federal worker a Roman Battle Helmet, with a Hot Carl chaser followed by an Arabian Goggles aperatif.
Problem solved.
(all overtime paid in Dirty Sanchezes)
– Yes its true….Carin was the instigator this time…..
How far out into the future before transplant technology (or parts growth technology for that matter) enables inexpensive, simple, safe and ready access to supplemental sexual organ attachments? Biggusdickus the next fad?
How long until tatooing becomes dopey? About the time Lucas starts ripping of Ben Hur.
i blame bush.
and ironic tribal tats.
brb – Gotta go find al’s new words on urbandictionary.
really thought that would help get this back on topic
Sometimes I think you’re deliberately obtuse, sdferr, and that you do it to annoy.
tattoos become dopey when your mom has a tattoo I think
“A horse walks into a bar….And the bar tender say’s ‘Why the long face’….”
“The Horse replies…..I’m no longer the benchmark.”
nah cranky-d, neither, I’m just that dumb.
sdferr is one the mostest unobtuse people I know
Here’s a tricky maneuver that even Russell Crowe might have some difficulty with. While sitting on your partner’s forehead, place your balls over her eyes and your dick over her nose. Giving the appearance of a Roman battle helmet. Then exclaim “Am I not merciful?!” Also known as Arabian Goggles.
A “seldom-seen” maneuver when you put your testicles over her eye sockets while getting head. (Picture it:ass on forehead) It may be anatomically impossilbe, but what the fuck else is new.
the act of putting seran-wrap on ones face and proceeding to take a hot steamy shit on the seran-wrap, thus letting them feel the warmth of the poo on their face.
How in the holy hell do you find this stuff, al?
Find?
– feets is the one behind all of this resident evil. He only pretends to luv the bunnies.
al – If you don’t find it, does that mean you make it up?
I get around.
I certainly hope Carin is proud of herself.
Still think it’ll be hard to find a funnier vulgarity than the Paddington Ambush, btw.
A challenge?
Indeed!
Funny HA HA or funny – gives you a stomach ache?
Federal workers > splooged teddy bears
Makes sense to me.
Mung
Felch
al is sooooooooo going to make you regret that challenge, bh.
At the Federal Worker Cafeteria they’re serving “Continental Breakfast” and the “Havana Omelet”
– And then there’s this.
Har-dee-har-har!
(I never thought I’d have the excuse to post that NSFW link here.)
Funny Ha Ha. I have very delicate sensibilities.
Look harder
“To professionalize you must Federalize” – Former Majority Leader Tom Daschle
Unionize too and then the rest follows naturally.
Ahhhhh.
A sexual procedure involving a small amount of cooking. Ideal for horny mornings or just for those with some kind of food fetish. At least 1 egg will be required, if not more.
The egg yoke is used for lubrication in either vaginal or anal sex (careful of little flecs of eggshell). After the man has ejaculated, the puree of fluids is caught in a bowl or straight into a pan and fried. Top with a sprinkling of salt and a dash of pepper and serve ala carte. Delicious!
Simply put, explosive diarrhea–the kind that explodes all over the bowl. Accompanied by gaseous emissions, swearing, perhaps an “AAAAAHHHHH” in relief, and then a horrid stench within about 3 seconds–sending innocent bystanders running from the john.
Wow JD, your definition of “Continental Breakfast” is different then mine. Yours is kinda gross.
than, then.
– Oh. I thought you guys said find something with a giant “clock”.
I might never go to a Marriott Courtyard again. The bagels are probably safe though.
alppuccino is a living legend.
You want to cut down on federal expenses? Great! Let’s start with the Defense Department. Now there’s an overpaid sector. Just ask Dick Cheney.
Nah, we’ll start with the guaranteed lefty voters first, trolly.
Shut up, William Yelverton, the lying fucking cowardly pigfucking skin flute playing hilljack.
Cheney never made the kind of money Gore makes just by furrowing his brow and raping masseuses.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development subsidizes housing for people who can’t afford to pay rent, and subsidizes commercial development for businesses that can’t turn a profit. It does this with dollars it takes from people who can pay their rent, and businesses that do turn a profit. The artificially created demand for residential and commercial space means that people who lease apartments and offices wind up paying more in rent because of the competition they’re fostering among the unfit. Which makes it that much harder to afford an apartment or turn a profit.
But yeah, let’s go after the guys who protect the country. Because guns are icky.
I’m sorry I came back to this thread.
Does the Urban Dictionary have an entry for the “Yelverton Comment?”
Back in the day, this was probably in the early 70’s, we lived on Andrews, and I got a job moving government office furniture in DC. A guy would get a promotion entitling him to a bathroom, so we moved him and 100 secretaries 100 yds. down the hall. I worked there a whole summer, and can’t recall ever seeing a government employee actually working, though it must happen sometimes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080904903.html?hpid=topnews
There is room for streamlining. But that is not at all what the Leftists like William “The Coward” Yelverton want to do.
Does the Urban Dictionary have an entry for the “Yelverton Comment?”
That was the Havana Omelet
I don’t see the problem here. If I make my quota at the tractor factory for the entire plan year I should get on the list for a three room flat or, (dare I say it?) even get on the wait list for the automobile lottery. It’s really the only fair way to do things and I would already have had the better house if the Ispolkom chairman hadn’t been fucking every woman in the oblast.
Shouldn’t that be the Havana Paella?
Some government workers get a lot of work done. Many do not, and make the rest look bad. Someone is getting something done, but the average output is probably fairly low.
Paella!
Willie the racist skin-flute player certainly makes all guitar-picking midgets look bad.
Angry midgets cooking veggie paella … Oh Good Allah, why doesth thou hate me so?
If it’s the Yelverton I’m thinking of all participants must have really bad teeth and one must own a giant glow-in-the-dark dog.
Yeah, I’d agree with that, cranky, I’ve met a number of smart, hard-working gov workers. I’m not sure how they can take it. Their lazy fool tolerance must be through the roof.
Their lazy fool tolerance must be through the roof.
Visiting a DC bar during working hours will help to explain, in part, how they put up with it.
– Government work is a joke. Typically it takes 1 guy to screw in a light bulb, four others to guard the package the bulb came in, and at least three assistant managers and one department head to authorize and approve the screwing.
– Once a month the big cheese will show up, and then all that gets done is a series of reports/all hands meetings about the screwing, and waiting on Mr. big hand and foot.
For want of an ell, the thread was lost.
By this time, most threads are lost anyway.
– DCAS (department of commerce aerospace systems) inspectors have it even better.
– They show up for 1 hour a day. Have a meeting with the project heads, then they witness the end-of-test results. If anything fails they send a red flag memo back to DCAS head quarters asking whether the test needs to be repeated or a variance can be issued. If everything passes they sign the sheet and stamp it and leave. The worst case scenario is one hour a day at the plant test site.
– They are generally not local, which means they collect per diem in addition to the 40 hour paycheck, pension, medical, and hazardous duty/travel insurance, all payed for.
– Best racket in the world.
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AJB is huffing model glue again today, huh?
Model glue is a little hard to boost these days. Probably hung around Home Depot until someone left the cage open to the spray paint. You can tell by the brown ring around AJB’s mouth and nose.
What?
I’m a Federal employee, and I agree, we are, by and large, an overpaid, underworked bunch. I’d hate to tell you what I make annually; I could survive a 25% pay cut easily. I like to think I earn my pay, but I’m hardly objective in this matter.
But then, I’m a senior GS employee, with lots of seniority, in a professional job. I can’t speak for the lower grade employees (nor take the time to dig up payroll data), but the USA Today comparison of AVERAGE salaries looks fairly accurate. I suspect that a large reason for that average is grade inflation — people receive grade increases because they’ve been in their job for a long time, not because they are doing more work, or have more responsibilities. I’ve seen that time and again. In that regards, BBH in #141 is spot on.
And if you’re at the head office of a Federal agency, you automatically start out at a GS12, or so it seems to me. Add in the profusion of “Senior Executive Service” types, and it’s very true.
And those goobermint unions? All they do is prevent office closings, parcel out overtime, and keep crappy workers from getting bad evaluations. Gah!
Which pretty much means this country is sliding faster downhill than I thought. Time to buy more items useful should a economic collapse become reality. Trickle down economics does work.
(And, yes, I realize the irony of a Federal employee bitching about getting overpaid while commenting on a blog during working hours. You’d be surprised at the quality of the news that I get from browsing blogs, something that I need in my job; the networks simply aren’t enough. Not to mention, I’m on break.)
– I was you I’d stay clear of any Lefturd brown rings Darleen. Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they couldn’t tell the difference between a drinking fountain and a urinal.
– AFE – I hope you don’t take my little rant as to mean I’m blanket disparaging ALL Fed employees. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have many buds at your pay level and they all work damn hard for their keep. It’s more a case that over the years the ranks have swelled way past anything really needed, and as you alluded too, there’s no real mechanism for efficiently thinning down the gaggle when it’s warranted. So the rock just gathers more and more moss.
GET ‘IM!!!!!
– Oh NOOOOOOOOOEEESSSSSSS….
….and in other news…..
– The latest round in Left on Left happy fun times stuff.
I hope you don’t take my little rant as to mean I’m blanket disparaging ALL Fed employees….It’s more a case that over the years the ranks have swelled way past anything really needed, and as you alluded too, there’s no real mechanism for efficiently thinning down the gaggle when it’s warranted.
Not at all, BBH, you are simply speaking Teh Truth™ here. A good number of my fellow Feds are also hard workers, are proud of what they do, and damn well earn their keep.
The excess employees are a different matter — I hate to think about how many “managers” are around and above me. But I have little choice, especially when they send out memos I have to read without gagging. Most of them are ass covering, pompous, empire building bureaucrats, and not interested at all in running this country; they want to loot it. Although they think of it as “project management”. Political hacks, sucking off the goobermint teat, the lot of them.
But then those that treat their jobs as entitlements. That’s complete and utter BS, of course. But try telling THEM that, and they’ll cry like a baby.
I’m eligible to retire in a few years; I can only hope that Uncle Sugar is solvent enough to cover my annuity. I’m too ugly to be a gigolo, and too old to turn brigand.
Oh… that might cover a few of us, too.
My little bro works for a private company that does contract work with the National Guard. There is a civilian GS a lot that routinely makes projects harder to complete, longer for no particular reason, and generally serves as an obstacle to progressing forward. AFE does a good job describing this type of person above.
You can never be too ugly to be a brigand, so there is that.
You have just described about 98% of the state inspectors I have worked with.
I wish I could tell stories about this guy. My little bro is Rain Man smart and started a real niche IT company. This one clown mucks up more projects and jobs than all other problems combined. Bro is usually the only non-military or ex-military person in the room, and way younger, though he did 3 years in Iraq and a year in Bosnia with KBR from the first day they were there. This GS fucker treats him like a servant. Last week, GS fucker made an overtly incorrect statement, 180 degrees wrong, which would take the project way down a path it should not be on. Bro pointed out the correct path, and they moved on. 2 days later, GS emails his boss, his boss’s boss, up 4 levels, and every level of Bro’s company up to the owner about how he was disrespectful, insubordinate, and tried to embarrass him in public, show him up, and demanding he be removed from the project, a project he started. He spent the next 4 days flying around the country trying to smooth things over with all levels just so he could go back to work. On Sunday, when he got back to the job, GS fucker was waiting in the lobby of his hotel and told him that he better watch himself, as everyone else is, and left. Rant done.
I hate government jobs with a passion because of the bullshit and vindictive little idiots like you describe, but since the leftards have utterly destroyed private development right now, that is all we have to work with.
And since the company is down to bare bones right now, all the little pissant jobs the coops and newbs usually handle are having to be covered by Sr. Techs and Engineers.
Obama is not very popular in our industry right now.
Bmoe – What amazes me is how acceptable that type of behavior is. Nobody will do anything about it.
JD, at a guess, that GS asshole knows your brother is smarter than him, and is jealous, not to mention scared of being proved incompetent. I’ve seen it happen. And I’ve known Feds to do that other Feds as well. The condition is likely not unique to the Federal Goobermint. But the system encourages that behavior, thanks to the difficulty of firing incompetents.
No doubt your brother is aware of this possibility, but I suspect that everyone is NOT watching him, except the minions of the GS asshole. He needs to cover his six, no question about it, but that GS asshole has a weakness, and it’s his ego. Maybe your bro can play it to his advantage.
15 layers of “middle management” where one would suffice?
AFE – Isn’t the saddest part about it that he even has to worry about why, that he has to cover his 6, or how he can exploit the weakness? Would be nice to just do their job. Agreed that this is more likely just a rotten apple, but in my experience, it is far from unique.
Acceptable? It is a job requirement. Ric Locke’s “just say no” post the other day was spot on, as his posts usually are.
Covering your ass is absolutely job one if you are a private inspector working on government jobs.
The best way I can describe it is when I am on a private job, I see myself as a coach, trying to improve the performance of the team and only come down on them if they are truly fucking up.
On government jobs everybody is a cop, doing nothing but trying to find fault and write tickets and backstab anybody and everybody.
15 layers of “middle management” where one would suffice?
Yup, Spiny. That’s known as “program management”.
Would be nice to just do their job.
JD, I have a similar problem, where I have to cover my tail against other federal employees, instead of just doing my job; I spend maybe 20% of my time *scheming* on how to get my job done. The reasons for this are somewhat different from the situation you describe, but your brother has my complete and total sympathy.
Well, AFE, I am glad you are out there. You remind me of a commenter that used to come around, wishbone. Wish there were more of you out there.
– I did not touch on THAT aspect of interaction with our faithful gov inspectors. I know exactly what your bro is dealing with JD. More times than I’d care to count I had to butt heads with those butt heads, just to get a job through. Often to the point of putting my job on the line. Here I am, a senior staff scientist working on some of the most sensitive stuff you could imagine, having to do battle with some GS14 piss-ant, and they acted like piss-ants, little emperors, and yes it was petty jealousy driven.
– The reason why? Project continuity and future contracts. One of those fuckers could stick a wrench in the gears and cost the company a bundle just by delay tactics, or worse, submit an unfavorable supplier report directly to GAO.
– The justification. They, these dimwits, have to oversee super important work, so they need almost unlimited control so companies can’t game the system. Problem is, they have no formal training in the job their selected to do. a lot of these positions are given based on service in the military. So you end up with some lifer supply officer retiree making stupid assed hi-tech decisions.
– As Project leaders we spent a lot of time making sure they didn’t do anything important, another complete waste of resources.
Problem is, they have no formal training in the job their selected to do. a lot of these positions are given based on service in the military.
Exactly right, BBH. However, sometimes, the position is given to whomever kisses ass the best. I mind me one twerp who was the project manager of an environmental project in a major recreation area. His college edumakayshun? Electrical engineering. And, yes, he performed at about the level one would expect: he failed miserably. Of course, the project failure was blamed on the locals, who were so unreasonable to expect a major Federal agency to live up to the original agreement.
Well, AFE, I am glad you are out there.
Thank you, JD. I try, in large part because I know Federal employees can do better. And I refuse to live down to their expectations.
Let’s further emasculate the government while simultaneously destroying the middle class as we have been since Reagan’s tax cuts for the rich. We’ll cede all power to our oligarchy. We’ll be just like Mexico! Who needs public schools, libraries, bike paths, parks, public transportation, affordable health care, city planning, and other things that make for a decent place to live? I prefer the models of Denmark, Germany, Holland, and even Spain (which was a third world country not long ago) but maybe I’ll warm up to the Road Warrior vision you guys have for America. I’d just like you to point me to the model of the sort of place you are trying to shape. I think we’ve already been there; it was America in about 1910. No thanks.
Fuck you, William “the plagiarist” Yelverton.
Nice job of fitting ten pounds of stupid in a five pound box. Further emasculate the government? Good Lord.
Lying midget fuckers that serendate cats with skin flutes should not use the term emasculate.
serenade … i screwed that up.
William Yelverton is the most self-unaware person in the history of the innertubes.
– Pretty hard to emasculate something that consists more and more each day of empty suits.
William Yelverton should have to carry a sign around, or wear a special hat, so people can recognize him and see him coming.
Good news for teachers, Willie!
Poor kids want to eat they need to get a better fucking union, huh? LOL!
your buddies pitching cap and trade are taking you there anyway
I don’t see why 10% off the top of every Federal Agency isn’t doable. If I am expected to keep a battalion I might command in a fight going with more than 10% losses…
And I do mean DoD too. I have suggestions for that outfit, heh heh. Yes, it does involve lots of people in the Pentagon and NGB needing to update resumes…
But I am sure every Fed dept needs their layers of assistants, managers, spokespersons, etc. AFE has already described the problem in depressingly accurate detail.
The bill…cuts $11.9 billion from the food stamp program, ending part of last year’s economic stimulus plan that temporarily increased the aid given to poor families each month to buy groceries. It rescinds advance refunds of the earned income tax credit, a break given to poor families, as well.
BMoe, it was my understanding that those cuts were from F2014. And, if true …. like THAT is gonna happen.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/food_aid_cutback_troubles_advocates_100172199.html?showFullArticle=y
Yes, they’re pulling another flim-flam.
Pretending cuts in the future.
You know, next year, I’m gonna stop eating food/feeding the family, which will save my family (quick adding) about $14,000. Since I now have a surplus, I’m gonna go on a spending spree NOW.
What should I buy first?
Let’s further emasculate the government while simultaneously destroying the middle class as we have been since Reagan’s tax cuts for the rich.
Well, you certainly living in a fantasy world, WR. The Feds are anything BUT emasculated, and getting stronger, while the middle class is being destroyed now by the Demoncrats’ economic and spending (but I repeat myself) policies.
This is all workers averaged together? Ain’t this a no-no when talking about the gender wage gap? Anyone compare actual jobs?
Reagan increased federal jobs by 60,000 and gave Americans their biggest tax increase in history. Fact.
And you have a problem with that because…?
fact the demonrat house of reps controlled spending during reagan
Ernst – That is willie the plagiarizing hilljack. He is posting under multiple names again, because he is a dishonest fucking midget coward.
the middle class is being destroyed now by the Demoncrats’ economic and spending
That’s why the GOP is fighting like hell to preserve tax cuts for the top 1%. Economic inequality accelerated under Bush and is at an all-time high:
‘”…while the bottom 99 percent of incomes grew at a solid pace of 2.7 percent per year from 1993-2000, these incomes grew only 1.3 percent per year from 2002-2007. As a result, in the economic expansion of 2002-2007, the top 1 percent captured two thirds of income growth.”
class
warriorclownNow willie is just spitting out DNC talking points. Willie the racist plagiarist is just phoning it in now.
If I were a cat, willie the racist hilljack would be my own personal ball of yarn, to be batted around whenever I am bored. Alas, I have work to do this morning, and must leave my ball of yarn in your capable hands. Whack away.
Me: …the middle class is being destroyed now by the Demoncrats’ economic and spending…
Ram: That’s why the GOP is fighting like hell to preserve tax cuts for the top 1%.
The GOP wants to preserve tax cuts for the rich because the Dems are fucking the middle class. Riiiiiigggghhhhhhhtttttt.
Say, Ram, did your parents teaching that huffing paint is a BAD idea?
99% of us were better off in 2007 than were in 1993 in aggregate (n.b. see Thomas Sowell on how liberals lie using aggregates) and 1% of us were better off still, and the thief (that’s what plagiarism is) wants to burn the house down because its so unfair!
The brain damage doesn’t come from huffing. It’s because the bitch that whelped him put him down to sleep on his stomache when he was a baby.
With his head on a pillow.
Underneath the mattress.
That’s why the GOP is fighting like hell to preserve tax cuts for the top 1%.
No, fool; the ‘pubbies want to preserve the cuts for the top 1% because there are soooooo many GOP votes there. Like Kohl and Feinstein and Kennedy and Rockefeller and Corzine. Rethuglicans like that.
Cordially…
Unfortunately Rick you’re making the same mistake as Willie: conflating the top 1% of income earners with the top 1% of wealth holders. I’d be willing to bet that the owner of the family run auto-shop where you get your vehicle serviced (or not) pays more in income tax than any of those super wealthy Democrats you named.
So Reagan is a role model now?
Ernst,
My point was really that there’s not much electoral gold in the top 1%. The Democrat aristocracy probably can’t avoid paying a fairish amount, certainly on their unnecessary senatorial salaries, and all the unearned income.
Or…they simply don’t report it. Works…don’t it Cholly?
Cordially…
WR #60: When we’ve eliminated all the government jobs not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, we’ll start on those that ARE, like Defense.
no sacred cows cut it all by 50%. let these “smart” civil servants learn how to prioritize.
cows!
ok tastsy cakes or clarks too
lemon ginger cupcakes are indeed sacred
you have a secret hindu take on such matters
i will be ever grateful for the cows gift of
moo/ because u can say it to a child
and they can moo back at ya
and smiles happen! thank u moo cow
Who says we cannot outsource the highly paid jobs to private sector as well? I think the National Treasury Employees Union’s argument kind of makes sense, but as soon as there is competition, we’ll see how professional and educated the people have to be and how much they really should cost.
If fresh graduates can work in the Big Four, the National Treasury can’t be as difficult to staff.