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“Dems: We’re not bound by president’s tax vow”

The Hill:

Democrats are looking at the possibility of raising taxes on families below the $250,000-a-year threshold promised by President Barack Obama during the election.

The majority party on Capitol Hill does not feel bound by that pledge, saying the threshold for tax hikes will depend on several factors, such as the revenue differences between setting the threshold at $200,000 and setting it at $250,000.

“You could go lower, too — why not $200,000?” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). “With the debt and deficit we have, you can’t make promises to people. This is a very serious situation.”

Sen. Byron Dorgan (N.D.), chairman of the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, concurred, saying, “I don’t think there’s any magic in the number, whether it’s $250,000, $200,000 or $225,000.

…Or maybe $175,000, or $150,000, or $125,000… Depending on how we’re feeling. After all, elections have consequences.

You fucked up, you trusted us!

[…] House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) hinted in a speech Tuesday that House Democrats do not consider family incomes of $250,000 an inviolable threshold, despite Obama’s pledge.

He said at the event sponsored by the Third Way think tank that “at a minimum,”the House would not extend the tax cuts to taxpayers above $250,000.

Hoyer argued that higher taxes would be necessary to address the $1.5 trillion federal deficit and downplayed threats that such action would hamstring the economic recovery.

And where did that deficit come from? Well, let’s start with all that “free” stuff you’re getting — whether you wanted it or not.

Turns out that’ll cost you. Who knew?

And to be fair, let’s face it: promises are made to get you elected. Once elected, keeping them is just, well, silly — especially when you can point to the crises you’ve ginned up as a reason to walk those promises back.

(h/t Darleen)

124 Replies to ““Dems: We’re not bound by president’s tax vow””

  1. Hadlowe says:

    I guess we’ve reached the expiration date on that promise.

  2. BuddyPC says:

    Obama made a specific tax pledge. Not Congress.

  3. Joe says:

    Democrats are looking at the possibility of raising taxes on families below the $250,000-a-year threshold promised by President Barack Obama during the election.

    I guess we should thank the Dems for floating this great idea just before the 2010 elections. I am sure that will work out well.

  4. Captain Renault says:

    “i’m shocked, shocked to find taxes being raised here!”

  5. sdferr says:

    Obama made a specific tax pledge. Not Congress.”

    So does that mean that Obama will veto any bill raising taxes he vowed not to raise?

  6. Alec Leamas says:

    Obama made a specific tax pledge. Not Congress.

    Perhaps his supporters in Congress might have mentioned that at the time. Misleading silence is deception.

  7. Mr. W says:

    Can we just skip the intermediate steps and go straight to 100% taxation?

    Then the ultra-efficient government could provide all the services and comforts we could want!

    I can’t believe I just came up with that! It is a brilliant idea!

    And because of the government giving everything out equally, it will be super fair and socially…um…just.

    I can’t believe that nobody thought of this before.

  8. Alec Leamas says:

    So does that mean that Obama will veto any bill raising taxes he vowed not to raise?

    I think they were being clever in the way that Leftists are known to do. I believe a tax decrease will sunset soon, therefore not requiring the President’s affirmative efforts to increase taxes.

  9. Carin says:

    I’m sure once Captain Kick Ass find out about what those Dems are planning …

  10. JD says:

    Remember when Barcky vowed to not sign any healthcare bill that was not deficit neutral?

  11. Brendan says:

    “With the debt and deficit we have, you can’t make promises to people. This is a very serious situation.”

    Unless, you know, you’re promising to give them a bunch of “free” shit. Those promises are unbreakable.

  12. ProfShade says:

    “especially when you can point to the crises you’ve ginned up as a reason to walk those promises back.”

    I’m afraid this will become the primary form of governance going forward…precipitate crisis, then step in for more control. Rinse. Repeat.

  13. sdferr says:

    This is a very serious situation.

    Which is why Dianne Feinstein and her Democrat colleagues are so seriously attempting to cut the Federal outlays by 10% to 20%, and firmly eschewing any new spending, right? Because it is a very serious situation.

  14. JD says:

    Hoyer and Boxer complained about the deficit without laughing, and without anyone pointing out that they are responsible for said deficits?

  15. JD says:

    I would love to be a reporter covering these clowns for one day. Oh, the questions I would ask …

  16. Blake says:

    I saw the Q/A after the Hoyer speech. Hoyer managed to work in a riff blaming Bush and the cost of the wars for the deficit.

    Evidently, Hoyer didn’t receive the memo about the House controlling the purse strings and that Democrats have run the house since 2006.

    Or, Hoyer conveniently overlooked those minor points.

    Anyone else find it obnoxious when members of congress claim “tax cuts cost too much?”

    The comments by congressjerkoffs about “tax cuts costing money” just infuriate me. Any congressasshole who makes that statement deserves to have their teeth knocked down their throat.

  17. BuddyPC says:

    5. Comment by sdferr on 6/23 @ 11:20 am #

    “Obama made a specific tax pledge. Not Congress.”

    So does that mean that Obama will veto any bill raising taxes he vowed not to raise?

    At that point, the American people will have spoken….

  18. proudvastrightwingconspirator says:

    Pretty much everything that comes out of Obama’s mouth is an expedient political lie designed to confuse or outright deceive. Including “and” & “the”.

  19. TerryH says:

    Having given America one of the largest expansions of government in recorded history, Democrats now seek to raise taxes.

    Gee, who wudda saw that coming?

  20. happyfeet says:

    “You could go lower, too — why not $200,000?” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). “With the debt and deficit we have, you can’t make promises to people. This is a very serious situation.”

    good thinking, Dianne! This will do a lot to incentivize and speed the relocation of prosperous people from high tax states like failifornia to for reals states what don’t mug their citizens to pay piece of shit government union members.

    People should remember this when failfornia comes begging to the rest of the country like a scabby scabby crack whore.

  21. dicentra says:

    More good news:

    Andy Stern, former head of SEIU, joins the board of directors at SIGA Technologies.

    SIGA Technologies, Inc (NASDAQ: SIGA), a company specializing in the development of pharmaceutical agents to combat bio-warfare pathogens, announced today that Andy Stern, labor leader and prominent advocate for reform, joined SIGA’s board of directors. Mr. Stern is the former president of Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the largest and fastest-growing healthcare union in North America.

    Andy Stern was responsible for growing the SEIU from 1.0 million members into a powerful 2.2 million member union. Under his leadership, the SEIU had been widely recognized as being an engaged and influential force driving healthcare reform and, ultimately, passage of the 2010 Health Care Reform Act.

    “Andy is a strong leader and a great addition to our Board of Directors. His insight, experience, and leadership, particularly his understanding of how our federal government works, will complement the skill sets of our existing board members,” said Dr. Eric Rose, SIGA’s Chief Executive Officer.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  22. JD says:

    Taxes have already been raised on people making less than $250,000. It is only after taking office that he put the income tax qualifier in there. Since he has already broken his actual pledge many times over, why stop now?

  23. happyfeet says:

    FAIL:

    U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who had imposed a six-month ban on deepwater drilling in the U.S. in response to a vast BP PLC oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, told lawmakers on Wednesday that he would take a look at issuing a new, scaled-back moratorium.

    He said certain types of activities could be allowed if the government determines they are safe.

    “It might be that there are demarcations that can be made based on reservoirs where we actually do know the pressures and the risks associated with that versus those reservoirs that are exploratory in nature,” Mr. Salazar …

    not naming names but some dirty socialist job-destroying fuckwit from Colorado didn’t do their homework I don’t think did they Mr. Salazar?

  24. mojo says:

    TANSTAAFL

  25. ak4mc says:

    I’m afraid this will become the primary form of governance going forward…precipitate crisis, then step in for more control. Rinse. Repeat.

    will become”…?

  26. The politician and the comedian: Both tell the public what they want to hear. But at the end, the audience laughs at the comedian, while the politican laughs at the audience.

  27. donald says:

    About to buy the brooklyn bridge for $125k. Only $200.00 down. Suckers.

  28. “…And all those politicians, they all lying sacks of shit.
    They say better days are coming, but I’m sucking left hind tit…”
    Drive-By Truckers

  29. donald says:

    Patterson ain’t talking bout the democrats.

    I gave the guy the $200.00.

    He just went to get the contract. He’ll be back in 20 minutes.

  30. Frontman says:

    “So does that mean that Obama will veto any bill raising taxes he vowed not to raise?”….

    Well, let’s discuss that. He may very well BWAHAHAHAHA! HOOHAAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAAAA! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

    Sorry, that was a good one. I needed a good laugh today.

  31. JD says:

    Watch him claim that allowing Bush’s tax cuts to expire is not a tax increase.

  32. Matt says:

    I would love to know what the fuck they expect us to use to power, you know, everything, when we can’t drill for oil. I hate this administration and everything they stand (or don’t stand) for.

  33. Joe says:

    Comment by Matt on 6/23 @ 1:39 pm #

    I would love to know what the fuck they expect us to use to power, you know, everything, when we can’t drill for oil. I hate this administration and everything they stand (or don’t stand) for

    Well since you asked…

    Michael Yon has the answer.

    Of course if it were practical, I think more people would be using it here. If your total gas needs consist of just a cooking stove and a coleman lantern, you might be able to get by on it.

    But given all the bullshit that Obama spews, I suspect he could supply all the energy needs of Afghanistan all on his own.

  34. LTC John says:

    Matt – we’ll see what Manbearpig ends up selling to fund his divorce.

  35. Old Dad says:

    The RNC ad we will never see.

    Dad, Kid, and Grandpa on the front porch.

    Kid: Daddy, what’s Obamacare?

    Dad: Well, it’s this ridiculously expensive and inefficient overhaul of our healthcare system.

    Kid: But Mommy says we already got good health insurance, and I like Doc. Jones.

    Dad: Doesn’t matter, the idiots in Washington shoved it right down our throats.

    Kid: What’s gonna happen Daddy?

    Dad: Well son, our insurance will get worse, cost more and our taxes will go up. Oh, and Doc. Jones told me he’d retire if this law passed. And Grandpa gets fucked too. His Medicare services will go to hell. He’s hosed. See the Doctors will have to ration health care, and Grandpa will get the short end of the stick. Oh, and son, you and your kids are schtupped, too. See we can’t pay for any of this nonsense so we’ll borrow money from the Chicoms that you and your kids will have to pay back.

    Kid: But I don’t even have a job.

    Dad: Me either.

    Kid: Daddy, you fucked us. Why’d you do it?

    Dad: It’s George Bush’s fault.

    (Grandpa chuckles)

    Kid: Daddy, you sound just like the President…he fucked us, too. (Fade to black)

  36. mojo says:

    “He’s not the boss of us!”

  37. JD says:

    Racist. Why are you trafficking in such commonly held myths?

  38. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I would love to know what the fuck they expect us to use to power, you know, everything, when we can’t drill for oil. I hate this administration and everything they stand (or don’t stand) for.

    Well Matt, you need to understand that there are two Americas and you belong to the American that must be made to suffer so that the other America can feel good about itself. So, either you suffer, or you wise up and join the other America that looks down on people like, well, you.

  39. Mr. W says:

    You guys are trapped in your little teabagger, OMG look at that deficit!, paradigm while Nancy Pelosi has moved to a new plane of thinking…

    Budgets? Where we’re going we don’t need budgets.

  40. Spiny Norman says:

    …Or maybe $175,000, or $150,000, or $125,000… Depending on how we’re feeling. After all, elections have consequences.

    You fucked up, you trusted us!

    Well, I sure didn’t. I knew they could never resist sticking their filthy hands in the tazpayers’ pockets. In addition to the Bush tax cuts expiring, anyone not eligible for food stamps is gonna get hit by those fucking thieves.

  41. Harry Reid says:

    I mean, just because the federal budget is one of the specific ‘responsibilities’ of Congress laid out in the Constitution doesn’t mean much of anything to us in an election year.

    If you can’t see it, did we really spend it?

  42. JD says:

    They aren’t even going to bother passing a budget, since their actual priorities tend to be at odds with people who might vote. Who needs budgets when we have emergencies!

  43. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Budgets? Where we’re going we don’t need budgets.

    Because all ur EVERYTHING r b’long 2 US, Mr. W?

  44. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Why vote when you can just “deem?” You’ll know that they’ve decided to apply that principle to general elections when the rehabilitation of Diebold begins.

  45. Scrat says:

    “Budgets? We don’t need no steenking budgets!”

  46. donald says:

    Um, he ain’t back yet.

  47. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Back to the Future I missed that on the first reading. Congratulations on the clever, multi-layered cinematic reference. I’m bitterly jealous.

  48. Alec Leamas says:

    Nancy Pelosi has moved to a new plane of thinking . . . Budgets? Where we’re going we don’t need budgets.

    I think the issue is that “budget” implies some kind of limit. Nan, you see, she’s a dreamer.

  49. Sounds like a bunch of moonbats are going to want more sugar in their kool-aid, but CAN THEY AFFORD IT??????????????

  50. Harry Reid says:

    What was it with the Clinton Whitehouse? Now the Enquirer drops the bomb that AlGore left DNA on a masseuse’s pants?

    She never should have told him her name was Gaia.

  51. Harry Reid says:

    Must be seen as it is entirely too awesome for mere words to express.

    http://nalert.blogspot.com/2010/06/national-equirer-gore-sex-scandal.html

  52. Mr. W says:

    A lesson for you ladies is that whether it’s a blue dress or brown pants, you always keep the Democrat DNA.

    Yeah, I know it’s gross, but then so is Al.

  53. DarthRove says:

    Well, the Global Warmening scam isn’t turning into such a happy ending for Algore, so he thought he’d get one someplace else I guess.

  54. newrouter says:

    algore should apply for that school “job” in detroit

  55. newrouter says:

    your 1st amendment rights are canceled by sharia in dearborn

  56. donald says:

    Um, well,…

  57. Joe says:

    newrouter, isn’t Michigan part of the lands of Islam?

  58. cranky-d says:

    So, that whole bridge deal has gone south, I’m guessing.

  59. Joe says:

    newrouter,

    a $540 massage?.

    That must have been a hell of a massage!

  60. happyfeet says:

    here is for dicentra if she ambles by

  61. newrouter says:

    i hope you can update us on the jews

  62. newrouter says:

    also masons we need more info on

  63. Mr. W says:

    Just don’t get him started on the illuminati, newrouter…

  64. Mr. W says:

    They should really have a itemized the bill:

    The massage was $100, and apparently ‘keeping your mouth shut’ is worth $440.

    What’s sad is that I’m sure that Al Gore would have volunteered to pay for her dry cleaning, but it uses all those nasty chemicals that are so totally not green.

    Quote: I’m Al Gore, bitch!

  65. Spiny Norman says:

    Alec Leamas,

    Nancy Pelosi has moved to a new plane of thinking . . . Budgets? Where we’re going we don’t need budgets.

    I think the issue is that “budget” implies some kind of limit. Nan, you see, she’s a dreamer.

    Hammer, meet nail. BANG!

  66. Joe says:

    Mr. W, apparently a “happy ending” in Portland is pricy!

  67. Mr. W says:

    Good thing Al has lots of stolen tax dol…I mean…sensible investing in renewable-energy-green-jobs millions to console him.

    You know what Al likes best about money?

    It’s green.

  68. newrouter says:

    the fight for freedom:

    (June 23) — While a controversial ad campaign targeting Muslims is getting a cold shoulder in Detroit, its ads may soon be appearing on the side of Motown buses anyway.

    A conservative legal group has asked a federal judge to force a Michigan bus company to run ads that offer support to Muslims who want to leave their religion, saying the ads are protected under the First Amendment.

    “Fatwa on your head?” one of the slogans reads. “Is your family or community threatening you? Leaving Islam? Got questions? Get answers!”

    link

  69. serr8d says:

    Here’s one of the first California LA micro-burgs to go tits-up. ‘feets, is Maywood near your neck of the woods?

  70. happyfeet says:

    that’s very very to NG’s zone but they’re much worse off and more crimey… she’s on the other side of the 710 from there and a little further south I’ll ask her if anyone’s been talking about that

  71. happyfeet says:

    very very *close* I mean

  72. happyfeet says:

    On Tuesday, as we reached day-64 of the BP catastrophe, President Obama announced his decision to name Richard Lazarus as executive director of the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. Given the highly technical nature of the challenges facing the United States in the Gulf, one would assume that Lazarus comes from a background deep in technical know-how, operational understanding of offshore processes and an unbiased perspective on the critical issue of this nation’s energy development.

    Unfortunately for the future of American energy production and consumption, Lazarus’ background is far from technical and, perhaps more ominously, far from unbiased. Lazarus is an environmental lawyer who has, in fact, argued 30 cases in front of the Supreme Court on behalf of environmental interests. Quite simply, Lazarus is an incredibly accomplished, incredibly talented opponent of offshore drilling.*

    fire Kevin Jennings!

  73. newrouter says:

    fire Kevin Jennings!

    yes perverts of all types must go

  74. JD says:

    feets – That is rather pathetic, yet entirely predictable of the little president man, no?

  75. happyfeet says:

    it betrays an unprecedentedly smug confidence that he’s made the media of America his bitch I think

  76. sdferr says:

    “…he’s made the media of America his bitch…”

    And this only works, I think, because as Dave B put it “We’re good people…”. Or was that what that meant actually? Oh well, whatev’s.

  77. JD says:

    That Forbes article is actually even worse than the part you excerpted.

  78. serr8d says:

    From the sound of it, I’ll bet Richard Lazarus, Georgetown University Law Professor, Illinois University and Harvard grad, hates him some Sarah Palin.

    And you know what? The little envirowhack prick looks a lot like William Yelverton.

  79. JD says:

    What is Illinois University?

  80. Kevin Jennings says:

    I dunno, the way Obama’s shoving all this stuff our backsides, those fisting kits of mine ought to be coming in pretty handy these days.

    Fisting kits; standard issue for progressive politicians intent on ramming the Obama agenda through.

  81. serr8d says:

    Oh. U of I. That’s in Champaign, not Chicago.

  82. JD says:

    I hate it when one of those clowns comes from my alma mater. Dick Lazarus sullies the name of the school that myself and LtC John attended.

  83. Bob Reed says:

    Someone in Congress needs to make a big deal out of Richard Lasarus’ appointment. This is a job for a scientist or engineer, not for an enviro-nazi, offshore drilling opposing attorney, who is a dilettante at best.

    Unless, of course, the goal is to, you know, end all offshore drilling…

    That one doesn’t even need a wink and a nod.

  84. happyfeet says:

    mostest pathetic wiki profile ever?

  85. Pablo says:

    fire Kevin Jennings!

    We should start at the top and work our way down.

  86. happyfeet says:

    this is the douchiest thing I’ve ever seen ever my whole life and I click and click

  87. Matty O says:

    The title of this post is funny; Dems aren’t bound by any pledge, they are amoral pieces of crap.

  88. serr8d says:

    ‘feets, that video showcases why most people are against public displays of fisting. Supporters.

  89. JD says:

    Did you see willie the racist hilljack is back, serr8d?

  90. happyfeet says:

    hah ok we are moving on to the coolest thing I have seen all week here you can donate lip balm to soldiers and also skin care balm and also soap this is obviously someone what had a vision and did whatever it took to realize that vision and her name is sara

  91. serr8d says:

    I just left him a comment over at TFree. Poor doofus, he’s so confused. Nothing is working out according to master’s plan. With the evil BOOOOOOSH! gone, life was supposed to be near-perfect for him; he could quit blogging and get ready for the leftist nirvana he knew was coming.

    Until someone asked his ilk to pay for it.

  92. sdferr says:

    What they see from the ISS, multiple times a day since they’re circling. Pass you cursor over the pic for captions, click the pic for an enlargement, wherein mountains appear silhouetted at the horizon.

  93. motionview says:

    Climate Science Blacklist established, with climate denier as a journal keyword.

  94. SBP says:

    Oh. U of I. That’s in Champaign, not Chicago.

    There’s University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, University of Illinois at Chicago (Bill Ayers), University of Illinois at Springfield (Ward Churchill is an alum), and University of Chicago (private school, Barky allegedly taught con law there).

    All of these institutions also have plenty of real scholars among their faculty, staff, and students, of course. There are many Nobel winners from UIUC (real Nobel prizes, not Gore-style fake ones). University of Chicago is where Milton Friedman taught. And so on.

  95. newrouter says:

    baracky and fisting so chicago thug. yo vagina warriors forced penetration ain’t salve by progg jelly

  96. JD says:

    No way that Ward Churchill came out of Illinois-Springfield. It has only existed under that name for about 10 years. It was Sangamon State prior. And by no way, that is an expression of shock and surprise, not questioning your facts. I had just never heard that before.

  97. SBP says:

    Quite right, JD. It was still Sangamon State when he graduated.

  98. JD says:

    That is nearby by father’s lake house, is how I know that.

  99. sdferr says:

    O hark you, nameless bolus
    Of wagyu beefsteak
    Do your worst, or is it, best?

  100. Pablo says:

    Condom distribution policy starting in elementary school at Provincetown, Mass.

    “We’re talking about younger kids,” said Singer. “They have questions they need answered on how to use them, when to use them.”

  101. sdferr says:

    Beth Singer has questions that need answered on when to be beaten into retirement or pursuit of another occupation.

  102. bh says:

    From that link:

    The committee also directed school leaders not to honor demands from parents who object to their kids receiving protection.

    Also, as early as first grade?

  103. JD says:

    The not honoring the wishes of the parents part is something that would make my head assplode.

  104. JD says:

    Early morning tomorrow. Be nice to wee willie the racist hilljack if he goes all estupido on your asses again during one of its manic phases.

  105. Pablo says:

    It’s Provincetown, JD. It shouldn’t be much of a problem.

  106. bh says:

    According to Wiki, the total pop is 3421 with around 200 school age kids. Times that by 2/3s to get the elementary school age and you’re at 132 kids. Times that by 2 (very traditional of me, I know) and you get 264 parents total. Rough estimate of course.

    Take the 3421, subtract the sub 18 year olds (8%) and you get 3147.

    So, 264 parents vs 3147 voters.

  107. bh says:

    106 is towards 105. It’s really, really not a problem politically for this school board.

  108. Pablo says:

    Times that by 2 (very traditional of me, I know) and you get 264 parents total. Rough estimate of course.

    Very rough. Which is good, because some residents like it that way.

  109. Ernst Schreiber says:

    bh, many, if not most of those 264 parents will have friends and relatives. I can imagine a fair number of grandparents, for example, who might not be very keen on this. Hell, I imagine every fixed income retiree in town wants to know why there tax money is going to fund something like this. It wouldn’t take much to take over the school board in a town that size.

  110. Ernst Schreiber says:

    “…why there are tax monies going to fund…”

    There. Fixed it (sorta).

  111. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    And you know what? The little envirowhack prick looks a lot like William Yelverton.

    Seems like those “Low T” peddlers are really onto something.

  112. bh says:

    Heh, Sullivan would probably be much more concerned about the dread curse of male circumcision that just under half the kids have suffered through. Priorities, man, priorities.

  113. bh says:

    I’m not sure, Ernst. If the school board was effectively taken over in P-town, I assume they’d be replaced by even more progressive idiots.

    It’s incredibly sad to say but I bet over half the parents involved are actually for the policy.

  114. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Well, Singer is awfully close to Sanger, so you’re probably right about the progressive idiots. I suppose the hard left position would be mandatory sterilization for children recieving free meals. That should take care of all the ones in the public schools.

  115. bh says:

    FWIW, the internet tells me that it’s a Pre-K to 5 elementary school with 95 kids.

    I went to a 1-8 elementary parochial school. I still get confused by the very concept of junior high.

    And, don’t give them any ideas, Ernst.

  116. dicentra says:

    Thanks for the link in your #60, feets.

    “When you’re selling religion door-to-door,” one hedge-fund manager, who is a Mormon, told CNBC, “it makes every other business enterprise easier in comparison.”

    To begin our tour, ladies and gents, here we see the “Mormons learned Teh Hard Sell as missionaries and they can’t seem to stop themselves afterward” meme. It’s older than anyone living but it still maintains its shape.

    And if you’ll turn toward your right, you can look through this peephole and see the the parallel universe, where:

    Brigham Young University (BYU) [is] a Mormon stronghold

    and

    BYU is in Salt Lake City, Utah, where the church is headquartered.

    In the conventional universe, BYU is in PROVO Utah, a whole county away (46 miles) from Church Headquarters. BYU has a little branch in SLC, and sister schools in Rexburg ID and Laie HI, but there’s no actual BYU campus in Salt Lake.

    Furthermore, “Mormon stronghold” is a weird way to put it, because the Church owns (and founded) BYU lock, stock, and barrel, and some 97% of the students are LDS. (Strangely, Palestinians send their kids to BYU a lot because the dorms are sex-segregated, we don’t drink alcohol, and we don’t stare at the hijab.) “Stronghold” sounds like a lot of us just happen to go there.

    The business success among Mormons is almost entirely male, partly because the church believes that the faith is best served if women devote their time to home and family. But another reason has to do with the training that young Mormon men receive and then put to use later in business.

    And here on your Left, you can see the “Mormon women are oppressed by Teh Patriarchy” diorama, featuring several barefoot and pregnant women who strive to hide their disappointment at not being allowed to have this marvelous training that young Mormon men receive and then put to use later in business. Well, except for the part where women are allowed to serve missions and go into business. A minor oversight, I’m sure.

    If you’ll peer into this other parallel-universe peephole, you’ll see that:

    the missionaries spend 12 hours a day for two months learning the basics of a foreign language at the Mormon school in Salt Lake City

    Which in our universe is called the Missionary Training Center, and it adjoins BYU which is, once again, in the next county.

    And it was 10 hours of language training per day, but only if you were going to, you know, a foreign-speaking mission.

    Wait, is that all? Where’s the part about how we’re secretly trying to buy and sell the entire world? Where’s the reference to Our Sinister Ways? Where’s all that insinuation about how the Church is structured like a corporation? (Just a for-profit part, which is kept separate from the non-profit part; what, you think the IRS doesn’t tear through our accounts every year with a fine-toothed comb?)

    Well, boys and girls, this concludes our tour of Bad Journalism, where they can’t get the geography right and they leave all the good dirt out.

  117. Random T. Counselor says:

    the school committee has unanimously adopted a condom distribution policy beginning as early as first grade.

    According to the Provincetown Banner, the program requires that students speak to a school nurse or trained counselor before receiving condoms.

    The committee also directed school leaders not to honor demands from parents who object to their kids receiving protection.

    Some members on the committee were wary because the program requires that students speak to school officials first.

    But Beth Singer, the school’s superintendent, said she wanted to guarantee younger students get information on how to use condoms because there is no age limit.

    “I’m thinkin’ of the kids in the knickerbockers, shirttailed young ones, peekin’ in the pool hall window after school,” sang Singer.

    Do me a favor, kid. Wear your hat.

  118. Big Bang Hunter says:

    The Goracle was just looking to pick up another piece prize.

  119. LTC John says:

    JD, I cringe at the loons that get mention in conjunction with dear alma mater….at least we had the good grace to invite Jesse Jackson to leave after he got caught cheating.

    hf, we saw plenty of lip balm, etc. But only one lucky American (and some Scots he shared with) managed to get Robusssstooo!!!!

  120. happyfeet says:

    :) I wonder if that via stuff from Starbucks has gotten popular over there… I haven’t tried it yet

  121. donald says:

    He never answered his phone.

    If anybody sees alonzo by Pete’s Place drop me a line @ 1-800-dumbass.

  122. JD says:

    LtC John – Hugh Hefner more than makes up for most of those clowns.

  123. Yackums says:

    She any relation to Peter “Party Animal with animals” Singer?

    KNOCK KNOCK.

    Who’s there?

    Wagyu Beef.

    Wagyu Beef who?

    Wagyu Beef at somebody else for a change, Mistah Pezzident!

    You may now laugh politely.

  124. Miss Frances says:

    Ding, ding, dong.

    Sweet, old school.

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