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What the fuck is wrong with these people? So bombing the enemy (who would love nothing better than cutting the heads off the self indulgent idiots at the ACLU) is wrong?
God forbid the ACLU should put the security interests of the US and the lives of American servicemen over an existential constitutional principle and the lives of terrorists and collateral casualties.
I mean it. Seriously. God forbid! These people live in a vacuum wrapped container of inhuman, self realized ideals.
Solution’s obvious. Just rig those drones up with PA gear, reading the terrorists their Miranda rights. Then blast them. If they didn’t get away in the interim, that is.
On the ACLU’s website, they’ve got this action of theirs filed under the heading “Keep America Safe And Free”. */tilt/*
newsspeak, if ever there was, TSI. Ok, I understand they want that info, not saying I agree, but what the hell does that info have to do with keeping America safe and free? Nothing at all. There’s no causation. There’s no correlation. Nothing.
Since when, OI, has the ACLU been interested in causation and correlation when expressing one of their contrived overarching “constitutional” ideals? The echo chamber is the size of the Grand Canyon covered in ivy but a millimeter wide.
It’s the naivete inside of me, BJ. Sometimes I still hold out hope.
Abandon hope all ye who attempt to to understand ACLU principles.
How does fuck does the ACLU have standing to persue a suit like this?
According to Holder, it should be the other way around: we should be reading the Miranda warnings after they’re dead.
So I guess KSM will get his precious civilian-court trial after his execution?
Uh, I thought they were the American Civil Liberties Union…What the hell are they doing worrying about foreign nationals?
I guess and pretext to hand-wring is as good as any other to that bunch.
Why doesn’t CIA and DOD just do like O! and tell them where to stick the FOIA request.
http://tiny.cc/kQeZx
Sorry, forgot to change my sock
Can anyone show me the Americans whose civil liberties are being compromised? I mean, sure, if the CIA starts using drones to target citizens here in the States, I’ll expect ACLU to be all over it. But last I checked, making war was one of the few areas where the government’s authority was not in doubt.
You’d think that having IRS agents hold a gun to my head and take my money so that a bunch of indigent hypochondriacs could get their snake-oil pills for free might rate somewhere on the “Civil Liberties” scale. But no…
Bah. Beaten to the punch by a man with a sock.
But … but … uh .. um … Because of the transparency!
Can anyone show me the Americans whose civil liberties are being compromised?
I know a guy who’s a tech recruiter and he’s upset his linkedin contact list keeps shrinking. That count?
They have standing?
There are some good reasons for opposing this business of armed UAVs doing assassination missions inside of Pakistan, but I’m not sure any of those reasons have much to do with Civil Liberties.
The ACLU reminds me of this. Guess which character.
And yeah I get who is the bad guy, but just because he was bad doesn’t mean he is wrong on how to defeat an enemy.
These are not the Americans you think they are or ever were.
Wait. I’m confused. Are civilians being killed by these drones? Because I’m not hearing any news to that effect.
Whereas, when GWB launched 1/10th of the amount of drones Obama shoots off, and someone’s goat got killed, Charles Gibson was rending his Brooks Bros.
There are the Adam Gadhan American children types’ civil liberties to worry over, and then the American born alQaeda imam dude in Yemen, alAwlaki, Mohamad Hassan’s spiritual adviser. Someone might get an eye put out having to run from Hellfire missiles and falling down while carrying that dagger, you know.
Lazarus: You don’t need standing to file FOIA requests. They’re not lawsuits.
The lawsuit here is a “tell us why you denied the FOIA request” one, which you get standing for automatically if your FOIA request is rejected (or ignored).
The real question is why the ACLU thinks this is a matter for a civil liberties union.
(The answer, of course, is that they’re not really a generic “civil liberties” organization, but a progressive activist group (for proof, look at their complete denial that anyone has a right to armed self defense, and (last time I checked, pre-Heller) that somehow the Second Amendment is the only one that, despite being all about “the people” somehow doesn’t confer any protection to a right of individuals).
Sometimes they do good work anyway, but…)
Why does the ACLU think it has jurisdiction over what happens in Pakistan?
Oh right. They’re the ACLU: God’s own righteous army. They have jurisdiction over everything.
Define:
cutting off your nose to spite your face.
How bout this:
Pushing Obamacare with numbers like these:
I’d love to talk with Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU National Security Project. I’d really want to know what end he is seeking. Well, besides the US losing one more way to kill our enemies.
Next up, the Field Artillery Branch gets FOIA requests for all calls for fire in OEF and OIF! And all FAC logs too. Maybe they could ask for MEDEVAC flight info. Why, there is no stopping the FOIA requests they could launch.
They don’t even care if they win or lose – just that they get to strike a pose and get some press.
And I have to protect these slime, just like everyone else. Bah.
It’s their inherent liberties more than their personage Colonel John. I don’t know if that makes you feel any better…
Maybe the FA guys could do us all a solid and have a few stray rounds “misdirected” in the ACLU’s direction!
I know, I know; not feasable…Just a thought.
I thought hippies with Philosophy degrees were bad, ’til I met a hippie with a Law degree…
Squid, one my law professors was a hippy with a law degree. He had spent the 1980s working for Prairie State Legal Services, Inc. filing lawsuits against the Reagan Administration, rather than helping indigent clients like he was supposed to…so he fled to academia where he would berate students for not being activist enough. I wanted to swat him with my rolled up tuition bills, but managed to refrain.
…but managed to refrain.
This is why we keep losing, and they keep winning.
Maybe the FA guys could do us all a solid and have a few stray rounds “misdirected” in the ACLU’s direction!
Or you could let it leak that they’re a bunch of Jewish conspirators and let the chips fall where they may.
Progressistes sans frontières
#1 –
I think if you look at the attorney in charge of this lawsuit, you might get a clue as to “what the fuck is wrong with these people?”.
His name is Jameel Jaffer.
Hmmmmmmmm…
There are people who will have orgasms when they hear of this, ranging from the real thing to undulating Leg-Thrills. Truth to Power and all that.
And they will email Yay! ACLU will email PAY! It’s how interest groups MAKE HAY.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/08/afghanistan-drones-defence-killing
How is this unreasonable?
It’s a fishing expedition. And classified information is what they are fishing for.
Let’s wait until the court actually upholds their stupid suit before becoming excited. Just this once, ok?
And this is what’s known as “Cutting off her nose to spite your loss of face.”
http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/18/shaming-her-in-laws-costs-19-year-old-her-nose-ears/
Which explains with no need of words or “texts” exactly why the drones are, and must keep, flying.