Bring on the bread and circuses!
Republicans now expect Democrats to pass health care through the House with a trick only Capitol Hill could dream up: approving the Senate bill without voting on it.
Democrats will vote on a separate bill that includes language stating that the original Senate bill is “deemed passed.”
So by voting for the first bill — a reconciliation measure to fix certain things in the Senate bill — that will automatically pass the second bill — the original Senate bill — without a separate roll call taking place.
It’s called the “Slaughter Solution” (prepare for a weekend of endless TV gabbing about it).
And after debating House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on the chamber floor, Minority Whip Eric Cantor emerged convinced that Democrats are going to use the tactic, and that they won’t allow Republicans, and the public, to see the text of any legislation for 72 hours before a vote.
“I can infer that we’re going to see a rule that will deem the Senate bill as having passed, and at the same time not even have 72 hours to even look at what they are passing,” Cantor, a Virginia Republican, said in an interview outside his office at the Capitol.
“The outrage to me on the part of the public is going to be focused on the fact that there is not even an up or down vote, a clean up or down vote,” Cantor said.
Here’s the reason Democrats are using such a complicated procedure: many in the House completely do not trust the Senate to pass fixes to the bill passed by the Senate in December. But according to the rules of reconciliation, the House must go first in passing the Senate bill and passing a reconciliation fix.
So House Democrats have been searching for a way to alleviate members’ concerns that if they vote for the Senate bill and the Senate does nothing to fix it, they will be hung out to dry as having supported a piece of legislation that many across the country dislike, either for spending reasons, or because of special provisions like the extra money for Nebraska’s Medicaid population (the “Cornhusker kickback”).
Technically, using the “Slaughter solution,” they’ll never have voted for the bill they find odious, even if their vote on the reconciliation legislation will have been the vote that passed the Senate bill into law.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, alluded to all this at her weekly press conference Friday.
“There are certain assurances that they want and that we will get for them before I ask them to take a vote,” Pelosi said.
The “Slaughter solution” is named for House Rules Committee Chairman Louise Slaughter, the New York Democrat who came up with the idea. She told the Daily Caller on Thursday that the chances of her procedure being used were “pretty good.”
Despite doubt among some on Capitol Hill on whether the “Slaughter solution” was feasible, Cantor expressed no doubt that the tactic could be used.
“It’s a self-executing rule. It is akin to passage but hidden in a rule as a side-note, passing the 2,700-page, $1 trillion bill, oh by the way,” he said.
Hoyer rejected the idea that Republicans have not had enough time to review the legislation.
“You have had months to review the substance of that bill. You don’t like it. We understand. You’re going to oppose it. We understand that as well. The fact of the matter is you cannot say you have had no notice of each and every provision for over two months,” said Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat.
Reached for comment, James Madison rolled over in his grave so he could fart dust in the general direction of Nancy Pelosi.
(h/t Doug Ross, who has more.)
The SCOTUS brick wall awaits.
I find it hard to believe they could ever do this…
which makes me think they really will attempt it.
People need to freak. Starting now.
Who among the Democrats will speak up against it? Will Obama himself sign a bill that has never had a vote? I believe he will. Will a Democrat in the Senate repudiate this act, if the bill is signed and treated as law though it has never had a vote? Who? Who will stand and condemn such lawlessness?
I’m with Jho. NO WAY is this Constitutional. I can’t quote the law, but I know there’s something in there that says lawas must be VOTED on.
Joe? only us “freaks” freak. The rest are sheeple.
laws…sheesh
Sd? I truly do not understand the suicide pact the dems are writing. Mostly? they know it will never be repealed, but to lose their cushy jobs? Reminds me of Blazing Saddles…HARRUMPH
Boom goes the dynamite.
OK, that was SUPPOSED to be a link, HTML fail AGAIN….
Mikey? you’re playing with fire…I like fire.
Will 38 Democrats vote no to disapprove the rule itself? It would be heartening indeed to see the rule go down to defeat when it comes to a vote. 178 Republicans will vote no. 38 conscientious Democrats is all it will take to defeat it.
38 conscientious Democrats
Heh.
This went on the wrong thread.
From “The Corner”
People, too many of them, they’re just an expense now.
Yeah, if they get there. Which, they need to have the votes for that. And they don’t.
ease up: they voted on a bill they didn’t read, now they are just passing a bill they didn’t vote for
SD, it doesn’t matter how many vote for or against. The thing tha matters?
It IS unconstitutional (is that a word?) I cannot remember where it is, but I know it’s there. So the Supreme Court can knock it down quickly, as any citizen can bring a case based on something or other…Hell, I’m a mechanic, not a lawyer, but read it somewhere.
I know that’s not much of an argument, but you folks can look it up, you’ll see I’m correct.
buy squid™ brand pitchforks
“Supreme Court can knock it down quickly, as any citizen can bring a case based on something or ”
we all have “standing” since we are all required to have “health insurance”
“Yeah, if they get there. Which, they need to have the votes for that. And they don’t.”
As I understand it though, Pablo, the institution of the rule is voted as a preliminary and separate matter to the final vote on the so-called reconciliation package. If that is correct, even though the reconciliation package goes down to defeat, by having voted “for” the rule, won’t the damage to the Republic have already been done?
If they had the votes for this, they would have already voted on it. You will know when they have bought off the last coward, as they will call for the vote shortly thereafter.
They are going to amend a law that has not been passed, by passing a bill they will not vote on, or likely even have time to fully read.
They are craven little fucks.
Newrouter? I own a shotgun (12 ga, 2 3/4 chamber) State police riot gun ( that is actually stamped on the barrel) IF I licence that to Squid? could i get in on the crazy blog money? 10% to Jeff and 5% to both you and Squid.
Re Newrouter #17
(channeling Charlie Brown)
THATS IT!!!
Yes, sdferr. But they don’t have the votes for that thing either. Because, apparently, some members have decided that their constituents aren’t quite that stupid or something. And then, from the House perspective, Republicans are the opposition, the Senate is the enemy.
Not. Gonna. Happen. At least without promising to put one of these dipshits in charge of Starfleet and giving another the moon to take back to his district on his unicorn.
I have to disagree Pablo, as painful as that may be. I think that in the end? They WILL find a way to pass this piece of shit, and you, me, and the rest of the at least 58% of folks against it? be damned.
Well, I really want to see them try something this idiotic.
It has to happen before recess, because they know they’re going to get slaughtered when they go home. That’s why we should close down Washington.
Oh, Constitutoin, almost 300 years of a Representative Republic be damned also
I wish I could type…I CAN spell
Three words, Blitz: Senator Scott Brown
The natives are very, very restless, they’re not playing along with the plan and November is coming quickly. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :)
One really REALLY big stinkbomb? say, at the National Mall? would shut them down…problem is? Where can we get that much sulphur?…
OH!!! Good idea, Pelosis place?
If this thing should ever get to SCOTUS and it isn’t a 9-0 decision, Squid better have the shipping department ready to rock. It will be time.
I do understand Pablo, but still disagree. These asswipes are willing to do ANYTHING to get their future power. Scott Brown type voters cannot EVER repair the damage about to be done.
It’s bad enough that the President of the United States hasn’t already stated publicly that he will not sign any bill “passed” under any such procedure, when the procedure has been widely discussed in public. That alone is enough to sound the death knell. Can you imagine Harry Truman or Lyndon Johnson acquiescing to a maneuver like this?
I believe this is a variation on the ‘I didn’t know the gun was loaded’ defense.
Sad f’n fact is that O’no WILL sign something…ANYTHING. If I wrote ‘Health Care” on a friggin’ credit card receipt? the asshole would sign it.
well frank roosevelt was up to it. and baracky smokes too!
Party !!!
Pablo, I suggested my shotgun( very unique weapon) be included in his line. All we need is a sweatshop in Japan, and someone to show me how to do the trademark thingy? good to go.
Meatball? Pedophilia? Don’t eat the brown acid my friend.
Party?
Party !!!
SD? My grandmother used to LOVE that song. Me? got sick of it after the millionth play, but Thanks for that!!!
we need a pw squid™ tar and feathering of p-o-r
Don’t be hopeful. This procedure is already done, at least once each year.
constitutional meltdown coming when 10,000,000 americans file in federal court about obama “care”
Three thoughts:
First, as mentioned, they don’t have the votes. At least not yet, but all we hear is how more people are saying no or coming forward with new demands.
Second, as they would do it if they could, we should still do what is in our power to punish them. This isn’t something to forget or forgive regardless of outcome.
Third, I’m glad Ed is here because when the shit goes down, I want him to watch as I fuck an underage meatball. Because that’s how I roll.
Jake Tapper should ask Gibbs/OBarcky on Monday if they will sign a bill that has not been voted on.
gives happyfeet a chance to dance at the Savoy
Bh – not only do hilljacks molest underage meatballs, they cousinfuck and chew tabacky and drink devil juice and bitterly cling to their guns and religion. Racists. Prolly think cheese and bacon are food groups too.
Tick Tock.
Let’s just hope Pelosi is incompetent.
Cheese and bacon are at the very top of the tasty pyramid. I remember seeing that on a poster in grade school.
I cannot believe that Green did not get T’d up for the Spartans. Ridiculous. There was an intentional foul called on a missed free throw, against Northwestern that was one of the single worst calls I can ever remember seeing.
Minnesota refuses to win.
Sorry I was posting things that you don’t find useful, Ed. Wait here. I have an armadillo I think you’ll like to see dance.
Back in a flash —
I have an armadillo I think you’ll like to see dance
WHOA!!! We haven’t seen the little guy in a while. I thought he had wandered off to Hefner’s place or something.
Now you are just teasing us.
Fuck you, RD.
Friday night reading…
Democrats will vote on a separate bill that includes language stating that the original Senate bill is “deemed passed.”
It’s the art of voting without voting. Bruce Lee is doing spining crescent kicks in his grave.
Comment by Joe on 3/12 @ 11:08 pm
“So what have you been up to these days, Kelly?”
“I cut the dicks of dead Armadillos and blow them up.”
I mean, what the fuck?
Those whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad.
Gentlemen; I give you Barry, Harry, and Nance, the co-mayors of crazytown.
I will miss the Democrat Party or the Republic. I am afraid that with this session of Congress they have become mutually exclusive.
“A rage for paper money, for an abolition of debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other improper or wicked project, will be less apt to pervade the whole body of the Union than a particular member of it; in the same proportion as such a malady is more likely to taint a particular county or district, than an entire State.”
Madison sure didn’t count on Dems pushing this improper, wicked project, did he? Still, he knew scumbags would be scumbags.
Support in the trenches is a bit underwhelming.
Charlie has a bright future in politics, don’t you think?.
A stout pair of gentleman’s undergarments can guard against fence splinters, B Moe.
I already e-mailed my Rep on the monstrosity.
I expect a boilerplate answer in about a month.
From B Moe’s link:
“Maureen Reed, a medical doctor running against Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), said Congress “needs to pass something.””
Well, there’s the whole ball of wax in one handy, compact form.
We gotta do “something”.
Scratch a reactioanry leftist, find the fascist snarling underneath.
They need to pass something? Bah. They do best when in perpetual gridlock. Or on vacation.
“Out” would be good, Michele.
Joe @57:
Where in the most cavernous of hells did you find that? And, why??
At least there were no photos.Maureen, even.
That paper is interesting. But only for specialists in armadillo cock. My cousin specializes in rat cock and he has a paper coming out in Rodent Cock this spring.
Speak for yourself, wimp.
“Well, you gotta pass something. I mean come on,” she argued.
Tea Party march in DC this Tuesday. Come on down. I assume it’s a kegger.
It ain’t gonna pass.
“said Congress “needs to pass something.””
confine it to farts
They do best when in perpetual gridlock. Or on vacation.
The panic on the part of Pelosi, et al, is the prospect of a repeat of last August’s townhalls if they allow Congressional members to go home for Easter break. Yesterday on Hugh Hewitt’s show, John Campbell spelled that out by reading a memo sent out by Dems scheduling for the next couple of weeks. Campbell said they were kept in DC with some rinkdink thing until Fri 3/12 so as they could only go home Sat and Sun and have to be back in DC on Monday. Then the schedule is rigged so they will not be allowed to go home until “healthcare is passed”. Supposedly with votes this next Sat and Sun. Pelosi is pulling out all sorts of pressure, bribes, threats along with an Obama who has postponed his trip just so they can pass something before the Congressional break. They know the American people don’t want this and they cannot take a chance of letting Congresscritters go back to their home districts and be confronted by their constituents.
This allows you to write an email to your own Congress critter and send another email to the 58 blue dogs.
And interesting bit a trivia. As a student at Cornell [school of animal sciences], Olbermann was a student test subject during Dr. Kelly’s Armadillo study. Keith’s cock was consistently smaller than all the test Armadillos in the study.
“They know the American people don’t want this and they cannot take a chance of letting Congresscritters go back to their home districts and be confronted by their constituents.”
Which is why their constituents are going to come to them in Washington this next week. Besides, Washington has pretty flowers in the Spring. And pretty flowers adorned with the blood of congresscritters? Well what could be lovelier?
Obama Akbar
End Times!
“So they will vote on it”
No, they will not have voted on “it”. Don’t be a moron.
tuttles have small cocks
If they actually voted on the Senate bill then there would be no need to ‘deem’ it passed.
So, no they are not actually voting on the Senate bill.
adrian
you seem confused about how The Slaughter Rule works.
This is the best talking point they can come up with?
Used Darleen’s link but rewrote the letter as follows.
The only health care legislation I would support is that which was outlined in a speech given by Representative Paul Ryan on January 13th 2010.
There are people in and running for Congress saying Congress “needs to pass something” or that “the country can’t wait any longer”. http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/86375-democratic-candidates-dont-want-to-mention-it
This is the language of insanity. An insanity that is contained in, written into, the Senate bill and all the proposed “fixes” of it. Manufacturing crises, then passing bills to fix the crisis, which was caused by former bills, fixing former manufactured crises is a means to power. It is not a way for legislatures to properly function in a Democracy.
adrian tuttle (meya) has 10 crisp $100.00 bills she got moments ago from the bank on the corner. I have a piece of paper approximately the size of ordinary US currency, which I have fashioned as a facsimile of a $1000.00 bill. adrian tuttle is happy to exchange her ten $100.00 bills for my facsimile $1000.00 bill.
Which of us now has $1000.00? According to adrian tuttle, we both do! Cheers! Yay!
The House Democrats doing this are “act[ing] like a moron[s].” Those running around the web spewing OFA/DNC style talking points, as if they had profound meaning, come in quite a bit below moron.
No insult to Ace’s folks intended.
The Obamapologists keep claiming the Slaughter Solution is just a “self-executing rule” (an ironic name if ever I heard one) but can’t seem to grasp that the Slaughter Solution has other traits that have been ruled non-legit by the Senate Parliamentarian.
The only faint hope I have if this abomination becomes a reality is that the members of the “gang of 14” on the Republican side will have a fundamental rethinking of their bi-partisan mindsets … along with the so called “Main Street Republicans.”
I know, faint hope indeed. Lindsay Graham is trying to ram through amnesty in the middle of this mess. clueless is viral and pandemic.
“If they actually voted on the Senate bill then there would be no need to ‘deem’ it passed.”
They’re voting on whether to “deem it passed.” It’s very transparent that a vote for or against this is a vote for or against obamacare. Once it is said and done that is how you and everyone else will treat this vote. You get some kicks by pretending otherwise now — the linked cartoon, for example — but a halfway serious look at how you or anyone interested will react to this vote should be enough to dispel this fantasy that there will be no vote.
Darleen, I’ve written my congressperp, Bart Gordon, who voted AGAINST the first House health care bill. Now, since he’s not running for re-up (he got some nice spankings at the Town Halls) he is likely to vote FOR this one.
Forgetting his legacy I’m thinking. Does he intend to not live here anymore ? A vote of YES will stink on him like a 20-day-old dead albatross, and for the rest of his life.
If there is no vote, it should be needless to say, then there is no vote. That, adrian, is what is called a tautology. tauto is the Greek for “same”. Same. Huh. What is the same as voting for the Senate bill as written (i.e., without any change)?
Why how about that? It turns out that the only thing the same as voting for or against the Senate bill as written is to vote for or against the Senate bill as written.
Pretending to have voted for or against the Senate bill just won’t do. And no amount of repetition of the mantra you’ve wrought here twice now today will change the thing. Say as many times as you like that pretending to vote for the bill is the same as voting for the bill, that won’t make it so.
This talking point will be inoperative as soon as they actually get the deeming done. I fact I suspect that, as a talking point, it is in very limited circulation so as to keep the “I never voted for that bill” talking point usable for the next few months.
geoffb, it seems like an odd tactic on its face to go about the land spouting a talking point which demonstrates that the spouter is a moron though, doesn’t it?
Why would they do this? It is like the Iraq
I was going to say it is like the Iraq War, but instead of going after Saddam they are going after us!
Hasn’t stopped many elected Democrats in my lifetime. They seem proud of the frequent displays.
#98 for #95
they found wmd its called obamacare
Adrian wants to be a critter one day is my guess. For fuck’s sake, who (other than a miscreant) says that voting for a rule, which says that an ACTUAL mother fucking vote has passed, is the same thing as voting on the ACTUAL mother fucking bill? Adrian, if you’re a man, I’d punch you so fucking hard you’re momma would start bleeding. If you’re a woman, I’d punch you so fucking hard that only you would bleed. Again, ONLY if you actually believe the shit you’re spewing. Because that would make you an elitist holier than thou prick. They deserve to get punched.
Damn geoffb, you’ve got me there…
It’s almost — but not quite — a tautology.
I’d say it breaks down two ways. The first, meya is correct (heh) that this will give the Dems foolish enough to vote for the Slaughter sham absolutely no political cover. The second is that, of course, to vote on a bill — as required by the constitution — you must vote on bill. A is A. A is not B.
Adrian’s Jedi mind trick has me convinced! Vote’s been had. Obamacare is passed! What’s for dinner?
Soylent Granny.
Hey Silver Whistle, did you hear? Korea DPR has won the World Cup and South Africa has been vastly enriched by the overwhelming attendance at the games! On to Brazil 2014! Yeeeeeeeehawwwwww.
You had to ask.
The progressives in the Democratic Party have worked long and hard on a selection process for candidates for election to ensure that the qualities they think of importance will likely be present in those selected for office. That the same qualities have a high correlation to others which may not help in getting elected is considered a “bug” which can be touted as a “feature” and be perceived as one if it is pushed hard enough.
Maybe this really is some crazy sort of exit strategy.
If the Senate bill goes to a legitimate vote the house Dems either bow to pressure and fail to pass it – leaving them up a creek with the nutroots crowd, or they pass the Senate bill and get screwed over by Obama when he signs it as written. Then they face the ire of both sides of the electorate.
Instead they ‘deem’ it passed, pretending they actually accomplished something, then scream bloody murder about judicial activism and courts run amok when SCOTUS pulls the plug on the whole farce.
Which, to my mind, is the most dangerous game they could possibly be playing. Given what we know of Obama, his distaste for sharing power, and his already exhbited disdain for the current SCOTUS crew, this seems at least possible.
These mutts think they can insult our intelligence. Well, fuck them and the ugly mules they rode in on.
I’m off to the bookies to see if I can get a couple of quid on S Korea.
“For fuck’s sake, who (other than a miscreant) says that voting for a rule, which says that an ACTUAL mother fucking vote has passed, is the same thing as voting on the ACTUAL mother fucking bill?”
Once it is all said and done everyone will say that voting for the rule is a vote for Obamacare and voting against the rule is a vote against obamcare. Or does anyone here think otherwise?
Then why not just vote the bill? What is the reason for the rule if it is superfluous?
Beyond the ads we’ll be running against the Dems who decide to end their careers, that’s irrelevant, meya.
A is A. A is not B.
Shocking development!
In related news, liars lie.
No one thinks otherwise.
The difference, though, is that this is the far more cowardly tack to take. And it’s likely unconstitutional. So that makes it perfect for the modern Progressives and the Most Ethical Congress Ever.
Now get off my site. People like you absolutely sicken me.
“Or does anyone here think otherwise?”
the indefensible must be defended
I “softened my pledge” when I told her I would respect her in the morning.
CNN – all spin, all the time.
It doesn’t really have to though. Pelosi just has to convince them it is going to. So the question is, are the Blue Dogs dumber than the people who voted them in?
As to whether it is Constitutional, are we asking the same court who ruled on McCain-Feingold and Kelo?
I hear you, B Moe. Towards the first, I do tend to think that if politicians care about anything, they care about maintaining their position. That’s why this thing hasn’t passed yet even though we’ve been hearing it’s about to pass for months.
Towards a future SCOTUS ruling? Seems pretty slam dunkish to me but your two cases give pretty good reason to pause and worry.
Same Court, B Moe? Not exactly. Rehnquist was CJ for both Kelo and McConnell v FEC, O’Connor and Souter were both still on the bench, so no, not if the constituent members make any difference.
Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer were the majority five on Kelo.
Breyer, Stevens, O’Connor, Souter, and Ginsburg were the majority five on McConnell v FEC.
Kennedy is still the man in the middle though. But would Scalia vote as O’Connor did in McConnell? Possibly, but I doubt it. See Citizens United, for instance, which partially overrules McConnell.
After McCain-Feingold, I refuse to accept “don’t worry, SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional,” regardless of context.
Tell me, Adrian. Are you woman or man. I have to decide how fucking hard I’m going to punch you. Thanks in advance.
I like to think even Kennedy would blanche at the thought of all the kinds of shenanigans the future would hold if such a scheme were upheld.
“ACTION MUST BE TAKEN!!!! NOW!!!!
Telling, that.
…the American public had been waiting for health care reform since the time of President Theodore Roosevelt…
What if they had passed a non-profit, single payer system back in TRs day? What if all our resources had been spent on applying the absolute best medical care of the day to all the needy, and no profit had been available for R&D, or to incentivise private research?
What would modern medicine look like? How many diseases wouldn’t we have found a cure for? What technology wouldn’t have been developed?
I took those damn Big Pharma brand sulfa drugs for months after that infected hangnail. For some reason though it cleared right up after I ate some bread that turned out to be moldy. Go figure.
“I have to decide how fucking hard I’m going to punch you.”
Sticks and stones break your bones huh?
Nuts! Monkey Nuts rejected my paper on spider monkey testicle atrophy.
US Congress, giving used car salesman a good name since 2004…
Jeff, you sure do attract some disturbed people. Remember Neil “Kneel” Masters? He was the guy who went ballistic about his family serving in every American war since Lincoln. I don’t recall if he ever got around to expressing his point.
Not at all, coward. You hide because you can. My point is simple. IF, and it sure looks like it, you think that not voting on a bill, but rather voting for a rule in which the bill is assumed to be passed, is the correct course of action, then you are a person deserving of having your face punched. My only question is how hard? Because, these cowardly congress people aren’t “better” than us, nor are you. Especially, you.
Pelosi: We totally have the votes to pass health care, except we’re four short. Or maybe seven. But we have the votes to pass it. But we don’t need a vote because the bill has already passed the house. So we don’t need all the votes for this bill that has already passed, but we have them if we need them, which we don’t, but could pass it…no problem. This bill actually outlaws problems. So we need to vote on it next week, or not, because we have already passed it.
Barcky: We have waited too long. Pass this bill by
JuneAugustThanksgivingChristmasEasterright fucking now! But deadlines are unimportant. I’ve got to get the family overseas don’t you know. I know the economy is in the shitter, but there’s a sweet beach and a pina colada with my name on it. So get this done by the18th21stwhenever.The time for talk is overLet me schedule another speech.We should be happy that they are this incompetent.
Heh, Duke, exactly.
That tuttle thingie is clearly incapable of being embarassed. It must be the author of http://www.cockslapme.com
Oh, and I forgot this little gem from Madame Speaker:
“We have to pass the bill so that you can see what’s in it.”
If stupidity were painful, Nancy would need a handful of Vicodin.
If stupid were painful, tuttle would have passed out from the pain some time ago.
That’s true, JD, but judging from her comments, Vicodin is involved.
Duke – it appears to be some surreal form of performance art, interprtation of sadomasochism in a public forum, perhaps.
Stupidity can’t be painful — pain requires the existence of neurons.
No brain no pain ?
If we’re speaking of adrian, I would agree with the no brain part. That much is self evident. OI is interested in the pain part, or at least the infliction of pain, which would be rather amusing.
adrian tuttle put me in mind of Archibald “Harry” Tuttle, who had this exchange with Sam Lowry:
Near Gilliam worthy political ad, at least in the running theme on Boxer.
Four short and seven queers ago, our…
our…
*hic*
Why, yes it would Duke. My wanting to punch him/her in the face has nothing to do with a disagreement (a rather large one at that) but rather the fact that this wannabe elitist would rather we shut up and take our medicine from Mama Gubmint like good proles. The cowardice of this fuck’s actions, as well as the proposed actions of the chimps in congress, tickles my “punch someone in their fucking face” nervous system response.
I’m two heartbeats away, people !!!
…
Well, Biden, so one.
Except for Harry was really cool, and Adrian really isn’t.
Well “except” if you insist B Moe. I didn’t equate the two but elided my earlier references to adrian as moronic etc. for the sake of brevity, taking them as assumed.
You’ll get no disagreement from me, OI. My thoughts of late have gone back and forth from “Are you fucking kidding me?” to “I need to hit someone.”
Adrian is meya, no? So, keeping with the Slapshot meme, meya, you make me sick when you speak.
Whoops. Slapshot was in the paahhhhrty thread.
She does make me sick though.
lulz
Harry Tuttle.
The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here
How wrong he was.
If you’ve never been to Gettysburg, you need to go. Well worth your time.
Understood, and didn’t mean to imply otherwise. Just expanding the thought.
You remember, I remember, but I’m thinking Madame Speaker and her ilk don’t.
Also, my third favorite whatever ever, “fathers brought fourth,” instead of forefathers.
Forth.
Fourth is the Chicago Bears this year.
Whatarever.
Ah. It looks like I have to referee a paper by Harry Murfree: “Mechanisms of Vole Penis Helmet Expansion.” Well, I know vole cock and I’m not going to be afraid to slam this guy.
My father brought fifth.
Now I remembo, fourflushers!
Referring to the squatters and not the Original Six, that is.
You remember, I remember, but I’m thinking Madame Speaker and her ilk don’t.
Well said.
She’s probably a Niners fan too.
A is A, meya like substance. Thanks for all the bullshit though.
Do you ever convince anyone of anything? Children, maybe? Slow children?
When was the last time you paid attention?
“‘there will be no vote’ is a mere temporary fantasy”
tell it to the denture lady slaughter
On the topic of face-punching, hows about trying to pass this bill in a legal and honest manner?
As the man says “Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit”.
When was the last time it made a valid point?
You’re wasting your time here, Adrian. You should be explaining this to the Senate Parlimentarian. Which would be a good use of your time, now that you’ve been shown the door.
Whoops.
I wonder if a real person named Adrian Tuttle would have a cause of action for defamation of character …
Yep, it’s SFAG.
So, you and Rilly split up? What happened? You were such a cute couple.
The good thing, meya, is that with all the narcotics in your system you won’t even feel the punch. After that last comment, you need punching.
Lying fucking fascists, they are.
SBP with the SFAG. Good times.
Dems will lose one or both Houses on Congress in mid-term elections.
Simple majority in either House or Senate can ‘deem’ impeachment. Can ‘deem’ that every action of previous Congress in ‘undone’ by ‘deeming’ the result for both Houses. Can ‘deem’ to remove Supremem Court Justices, impeach Czars. Can they ‘deem’ presidential appointments too?
Excellent!
Adrian, so you’re a woman, then. I will punch with less than optimum force. Look me up. Please.
At this point I wouldn’t let a Democrat pass Patrick Kennedy an aspirin for his hangover, much less a health bill.
At the risk of provoking proof to the contrary, I’m about convinced Pelosi couldn’t pass gas.