Hmmm. Does this mean the Weekly Standard is not really on the political right? I’ll have to remember to ask Shep, or that Napolitano lady what is suddenly all the rage again…
FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they’d found the magazine’s address
A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit , also declined to comment on the investigation.
Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.
The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there’s no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn’s published rants included attacks on “neocons,” and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.
The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn’s white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a “right-wing extremist,” but the substance of his views — which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen — are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.
Really? Because I can think of several disparate ways to map “anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-Israel, anti-Jew, anti-Christian, pro-eugenicist” onto certain “political classifications” — from the Paulites to any number of “progressives.”
In fact, I’ve been hammering away at this point since the early days of this site: the current progressive left and the fringe right have much in common, from their stance on trade and the war to their distaste for Israel.
The difference being that the fringe right is just that: fringe. Whereas the progressives? Well, they just happen to control the Executive and Legislative branches of the US just now, and so would hardly count as some “fringe” portion of the left.
So I suspect that, upon closer examination, some of the more observant and politically cautious pundits on left will find it prudent to begin walking back attempts to tie the Holocaust Museum shooter to any particular political ideology, lest people begin noticing a few uncomfortable similarities in political vision between this Nazi-sympathizing leftover from the Greatest Generation and the current political power holders.
(h/t Mr Pink)
Way to crap all over The Narrative, Jeff. Pony Boy’s not going to like that.
omg. Rainiest wedding day ever.
Holocaust Museum? Weekly Standard? Holocaust Museum? Weekly Standard?
Geez. That’s a toughie.
Flip a coin?
EVIL NEOCONS !!!!!!!!!!!!! The Leftist’s hateful words towards and about neocons led to this. I blame nishi, and the other trolls.
Happyfeet,
Liquid sunshine baby, send some of it my way please;)
I assume Danger means in a Listerine bottle, hf.
Eye Opener: Does Holocaust Shooting Validate Homeland Security Report?*
This looks like a good spot to note this stupid bint.
Meanwhile, Pvt. William Long remains unavailable for comment, though his fellow wounded soldier and his killer are both talking. But not on any of the news networks.
Look! A Joooooo!
Dan,
I was talking about rain but perhaps a few more weeks from now other liquid refreshments will be more on my mind.
Von Brunn was the sort of fellow to get you kicked out of LGF if you refused to acknowlege him as a “right wing” extremist. Extremist not good enough: you must confess his right wingedness or Charles just can’t have a conversation with you.
Pablo, I linked her down below.
There are precisely FIFTY-SEVEN Jews keeping the Rev. Wright from speaking with President Obama!
Says so right here in my magic 8-ball…
Dan and Jeff,
While it is kind of fun chasing you guys all over these threads the server speed here makes it difficult to keep up. (Man, I sound like I’m an internet stalker)
Any chance you could increase the length of the recent comments list?
That’s my wife’s purview, Danger, and she’s out of town on business just now, sorry.
There are precisely FIFTY-SEVEN Jews keeping the Rev. Wright from speaking with President Obama!
One for each state in the Obamanation.
I wonder if you will see anyone in the MSM link the Holocaust shooting with Rev. Wright and left wing websites like Kos that rail against neo-cons? Nah never happen.
“The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn’s white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a “right-wing extremist,—
Fucking liars.
Nice try wingers, but everyone knows that white supremacists make up the core of the right wing. No other facts will be considered.
Sarcasm included at no extra charge.
“Nice try wingers, but everyone knows that white supremacists make up the core of the right wing. No other facts will be considered.”
Robert Byrd (D) WV was unavailable for comment.
So I suspect that, upon closer examination, some of the more observant and politically cautious pundits on left will find it prudent to begin walking back attempts to tie the Holocaust Museum shooter to any particular political ideology, lest people begin noticing a few uncomfortable similarities in political vision between this Nazi-sympathizing leftover from the Greatest Generation and the curren
If my blog is any indication, they just dropped the issue, as they did once I linked Dan’s piece from earlier today. This was after my resident liberal DEMANDED I address it.
Lester Maddox was unavailable for comment.
Orval Faubus was unavailable for comment.
George Wallace was unavailable for comment.
Albert Gore, Sr. was unavailable for comment.
I am frankly surprised he did not go for the Weekly Standard, it is probably a softer target. But the lure of the Holocaust Museum was too much.
William Fulbright was unavailable for comment.
“Bull” O’Connor was unavailable for comment.
Lost in all this is the inhumanity of the left wing using an American citizens murder as a bloody political football. Then the tit for tat I just engaged in. Sometimes paying attention to this crap is just too damn depressing.
Carin – Kneel & Bob and OC are real treats.
Joe: The Weekly Standard would’ve been a nice soft target. Since it’s D.C. and those guys are law-abiding folks, you can bet none of them was armed. Nutcase guy could’ve kept shooting until he ran out of shells.
So we can blame all of the ones that raged about neoconz and all of the anti-semites for the actions of this whackjob, since it is obvious their rhetroic incited him.
If it isn’t Bush’s fault, it’s the fault of the right in general. That’s the narrative, and they will continue to defend it.
Donald Douglas post you might want to link, Jeff.
Well, this makes sense,
Von Brunn hated neo-cons and Jooooooooooos! And one of the main guys at WS is one of the original neo-cons, and a Jew; Bill Kristol…
I am surprised he didn’t follow through, WS would have clearly been a softer target…
But, he was an effin’ nutcase, so, reason can be discounted from his calculus…
Doesn’t that airing opposite The Goode Family?
Or air.
“In fact, I’ve been hammering away at this point since the early days of this site: the current progressive left and the fringe right have much in common, from their stance on trade and the war to their distaste for Israel.”
Careful Jeff G,
That’s essentially the coalition that put the NAZI’s in power; save that the fringe left elements then didn’t stop at go, but went straight to bolshevism…
That’s scary because, as you note, progressivism is now sort of mainstreamed, by virtue of Obama’s election. And soon, when he really starts bustin’ on Israel, the fringe right will start to find him more acceptable. Add in the RINO RethugliKKKans, all the go-along, get-along crew, and all others who think Obama to be a good man, and BINGO! you have national socialist soup…
OK, now I’m really pissed…
This is interesting, I wonder if the media or crap holes like LGF will take notice.
From: http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2009/06/10/james-von-brunn-like-most-holocaust-deniers-are-from-the-left-not-the-right/
But after some research it appears the shooter, James Von Brunn is in fact – despite the protestations of the Kos Kids – a registered democrat from Maryland.
Well, we all know the lefties cant fact check their own shit to save their lives.
Too late. Whoever lies first wins. Facts are literally (literally) useless.
(And to the degree that “Paulites” can be said to be “anti-Israel, anti-Jew, anti-Christian, pro-eugenicist,” they’re differently so than Nazis and Democrats (who are samely so), but hey. See above.)
Is that a fact, psycho?
{sniff} I love you man. That connection is pretty interesting and more importantly, very apt.
Dan, for one I presume that psycho means that Paulites don’t wnat to build ovens and kill the Jews. And as for anti-Israel, well, hell they’re anti any foreign policy but trade, trade, trade. Their foreign policy to me is, for lack of a better word, naive.
Ron Paul, the darling pet Publican of Andrew Sullivan, is now transformed by Charles “Stay Golden Pony Boy” Johnson into the raving anti Semite hero of Nazi wannabees like Von Brunner. Sarah Palin is a hypocricial slut with slutty daughters. The Weekly Standard with its neocon ravings provoked Von Brunner and of course they are primarily responsible for this horror.
And only the unifying love of our god king Barack Obama can save us from the chaos we are facing. One day he will be reconciled with his spirtual father Jeremiah Wright. Even if Obama did throw Wright under a bus.
If Paulites are pro-eugenicist, then they are simply ignoring the fact that Dr. Paul is an OB/Gyn.
Oh and spot on, JD, in regards to root causes. Well, of course the loony left made him do it. He was their trigger man, because frankly there to big of pussies to do it themselves.
Good point, David. Plus, isn’t Ron Paul pro-life?
Obama the big liar is his name.
Can haz flowchartz for Teh Narrative[s]?
B/c was just wondering why
Snowbilly = teen preggers
&
Old Nazi = Rightwinger
but
Black =/= Teh Funneh
Although:
Richard Pryor did a funneh Black Prez way earlier
I mean, it’s a little like so
The narrative reached the ridiculous when I read about some lefty trying to blame the shooter on Limbaugh. The level of ignorance it takes to make that argument is breath-taking. Worse is the amount of effort it requires to maintain that level of ignorance.
Psycho went to journalism school, I think. He’s also right, sadly.
Worse is the amount of effort it requires to maintain that level of ignorance.
Au contraire! Letting familiar voices spoon-feed you with information that makes you feel warm and comfortable is the easiest thing in the world. Trust me, my life before the age of 26 was one long, pleasant dream.
The years since? One long headache, my friend.
Staff Sargeant John Beale is coming home at 6:00PM at Falcon Field in Peachtree City. I went by and the Patriot Riders are there to escort him home. I feel terrible for this Riverdale High School Raider. I’m going to meet a few decent people up at the Publix and we’ll cry as he passes by.
Thanks Sargeant Beale.
Freaky!
H/T: Althouse
…”lest people begin noticing a few uncomfortable similarities in political vision between this Nazi-sympathizing leftover from the Greatest Generation and the current political power holders.”
It’d be be nice to think so. But how? The people who pay attention to the lamestream media won’t be told about any of those connections, either historical or contemporary, either.
Thanks Sargeant Beale. X 2
?
Mel Gibson! Where is Mel Gibson! Forget about Rev. Wright! You are taking him out of context. Mel Gibson!
I just back from the procession. I apologize to the Patriot Guard (Not that they care, they’re real men). I thank (For once) the police and other law enforcement. I’m awed by the turnout of the good people of Coweta and Fayette counties. My parents drove down and apparently it’s wall to wall all the way over to McDonogh. I’m real proud of my neighbors today, and a whole lot more proud of Sgt. Beale. The only bummer is my parents told me my nephew is going back to Afghanistan in September. Go Billy!
Hot Air’s advice to Sarah Palin.
a. Allah?
b. Capt?
c. Michelle?
d. All of the above?
Not likely. Despite Jim Robinson’s scrubbing, it is now widely known that Free Republic in particular was all “gooba gobba, one of us” about von Brunn’s rantings.
And let’s face it: Freeper types illustrate “the base” concept in a way that I suspect makes “politically cautious pundits on the right” secretly appalled.
Didn’t it turn out that this guy is a registered Dem in Maryland?
Stalin wins from the grave.
Ben Johnson at Front Page Magazine takes a close look at the lefty howlers and the evidence of what it is that Mr. von Brunn really did believe.
Dan – Mathred and Corn are in a tizzy trying to make him out to be a Rightwinger.
Advice for Palin
If it’s Allah that’s one amazing turnabout. He was practically sympatico with Andrew Sullivan until the Palin site started slapping him around.
Now my WAG (wild-ass-guess) is that this guy, Mr. von Brunn, doesn’t belong in any normal political placement in the American political scene, that he is off in some little political world consisting of himself; you know, if you were to guess on the color of the sky in his world ‘plaid’ or ‘paisely’ would be acceptable answers.
Like Mr. Kaczynski, the Unabomber, he isn’t anywhere on the visible political spectrum at all. And any attempt to place him on the visible political spectrum is a real good indication that the ‘placer’ needs to come up for air and start looking at the forest.
So to speak.
Charles “Stay Golden Pony Boy” Johnson fights off evidence that Von Brunn was a supporter of evolution and eugenics.
Now I support evolution too, nor do I think every vegatarian or German Shepard lover is the next Adolf Hitler, but it is nice to see Pony Boy put off his game and be forced to defend. Now LGF hardly represents the MSM, but this does as an example support the Jeff Goldstein theory on dealing with the media. Attack them right back.
re: Advice to Palin link.
By writing style and word choice, that’s certainly not Allah. Doesn’t read like the other two either.
Olberman is in high dudgeon, and refuses to even acknowledge that a US serviceman was murdered by an American Muslim.
Hey JD, woof!
re: Palin link,
No, but firmly arguing both sides of a position is pretty Allah like.
I think the advice to Palin is actually not bad. Not sure about the charity stuff, didn’t seem to hurt Obama that the only charity he gave was to Jeremiah Wright.
Just having to post a comment like I have above – I mean, damn.
So, Jeff, Dan. When did it get so crazy that pure 100% genuine crazy cannot be acknowledged as just crazy? I think Dick Cheney and Joe Biden have everything in common that could never be shared – politically speaking – with Mr. von Brunn. When did the obvious become so hard to see?
Let me make myself plain for the trolls here: So far as I know, Mr. von Brunn is a WWII vet, from the navy, who commanded a PT Boat.
Get it?
That stuff means nothing – he is just crazy, not part of the American political sphere – totally extra-solar, politically speaking.
Get it? If Democrats are Donkeys, and Republicans are Elephants, Mr. von Brunn is quartz.
Get it?
Little early maybe. The public won’t get overly excited about the midterms until unemployment hits eleven percent.
But even if some distorted version of evolutionary theory was part of Von Brunn’s world view, does that discredit the theory of evolution itself?
That’s either evidence of drug abuse I think or adult-onset retardation, writing something that stupid. Charles Johnson is not in the game no mores. Not hardly.
Yeah, Mikey, I don’t think it’s hard to see that he’s sui generis, or virtually so, and that’s why I entitled my post “The Political Uses” rather than “The Political Species”.
Dan – you see. I knew you would see, I knew Jeff would see. I knew so many of the regulars would see.
But so many don’t see. And that is part of our political problem. Some people, like Mr. von Brunn, are so far outside the American political sphere, that trying to tie him to one part or another part of that sphere is an insult to everyone in that sphere. And those who attempt that tie-in have too many enthusiasms for their own good, and need to take a little break, smell the roses, and see the forest as a forest.
So to speak.
I’d say both he and Scott Roeder certainly seemed to believe in taking direct action.
I’m sure it’s all just a coincidence. Ain’t nothin’ but a tea party y’all.
i wonder what mr. von brunn would think of the THE BELIZEAN GROVE
?
Dap¶er – How did his views diverge from Jeremiah Wright’s, you fucking troll?
DU, you somehow find the expedient formula to be that there was no shooting by Mr. Bledsoe.
Why is that? In point of fact, Mr. Bledsoe’s beliefs are demonstrably closer to this dude’s than Tiller’s murderer. Sorry that that’s not real convenient for you, but that’s the case.
NOW denouces Letterman?
Holy Steinem, Thomas, and Dworkin! I just fell off my chair.
Dan – The fuckin’ Leftists and the MSM (I know, redundant) have practically ignored the murder of Pvt. Long, while going absolutely apeshit over Tiller and the museum shooting. It is vile, reprehensible, and sadly, expected.
Joe, iirc, NOW also denounced the Playboy hate sex piece.
I guess that why my cat has been humping the neighbor’s dog.
See what I mean? Mr. von Brunn is outside of any part of the American political sphere. He is just outside it by any measure.
Yet there are those trying to tie him to one part or another. It says a lot about the person trying to make the tie-in, doesn’t it?
Again – where in normal American political life does Ted Kaczynski fall?
The answer is: Nowhere. Like Mr. von Brunn, Mr. Kaczynski was his own wing, a party of one.
g. gordon pulls now’s chain:
Newrouter: You missed the part where you tie your comment about Mr. Liddy to the post here, or any other comment.
And if you want to say “look! someone else did something bad!”, well, that is just pathetic.
Someone else behaving badly does not excuse another person behaving badly; it is the childish excuse of “Mom! He did it too!”
oh my cap’t ed gets ethically equivalent:
?
i’m glad the good cap’t didn’t have to explain that “illegal alien” isn’t a language or give la raza’s interpretation of their name.
yea kiss up to the radicals
yea so now “addresses” this in a blog post for a cya. if they were really serious i’m sure they can get katie couric’s ear or npr. ask anita hill’s pubic hair or the coke can.
now was introduced @84 do you read illegal alien?
@90
nah goofing on now’s reaction to gordon’s short hand for illegal alien mexicans
Hey, nice move. Make the straw man as obscure as possible.
I’m sorry, DU, but why exactly is this Bledsoe fellow not acknowledged as part of this disturbing pattern by the left? Don’t von Brunn’s sources and enmities sort of pair up better with those of an Islamist, as versus those of an anti-abortionist? Does the fact that von Brunn’s and Bledsoe’s targets were generalized groups rather than specific individual make the killings a little more similar, or not.
You don’t even understand the rhetorical idea of the straw man.
Well, we know of another WWII vet who commanded a PT boat. He was a Democrat, too.
Just sayin’.
Regards,
Ric
“Mr. Bledsoe’s beliefs are demonstrably closer to” jerry wright’s
“Mr. Bledsoe’s beliefs are demonstrably closer to†louis farrahkan’s
“Mr. Bledsoe’s beliefs are demonstrably closer to†bill ayers and bernie d
Bullshit. The word means “race” in Spanish, and is used exactly the way the English is. La Raza is attempting to identify Hispanics as a “race” in order to take advantage of the identity politics associated with the concept.
Regards,
Ric
Danger,
Please remember, all that have gone before you are with you now. Do us proud.
So what? Declaring yourself “The People” is no less disgusting than declaring yourself “The Race”.
Hey, I got an idea — stop trying to defend the goddamned racists you like. Start condemning all racists. What was it that wise man said… “The way to stop discriminating based on race is to stop discriminating based on race”.
Sure Rob, but then it would logically follow that Affirmative Action is discriminatory, and it follows from that, that you must hate black people. Hater.
Best Wishes to you Mel,
I hope your travels are exciting, in a peaceful kind of way of course…
Many Happy returns
they sell narratives to each other then sell them collectively to the state controlled media
That would require intellectual effort, original thinking, and would, in the end, be beside the point. The point is to use any means possible to link the lunatics to outspoken conservatives, to make it easier to get those outspoken conservatives shut down.
On the flip side, the possibility that rhetoric coming from the left might possibly contribute to violence is never examined. It never seems to occur to them that that “Snipers Wanted” over a picture of President Bush might incite a lunatic to murder, that repeated calls to rape prominent conservative women might provoke a lunatic to try, that constantly comparing Israel to Nazi Germany might be giving cover to those who think killing “Zionists” is akin to storming Normany on D-Day.
It would be nice to see calm, reasoned debate from everyone, but it’s hard not to reach for the rhetorical axe when you’re accused of everything up to — and including — genocide.
cap’t ed said:
yea because “that time of the month” is a patriarchy stereotype and that female stuff doesn’t happen to a racialist latina
Asspulls and feces-flinging appears to be all Dapper has.
very true considering the coverage of tiller vs bledsoe. go google it fool
Dapper says, in effect: “Truth? What is truth? All that matters is what people believe, and they believe what we tell them to.”
Bob! My favorite flyboy, and I mean that in a good way.
Travels are good, thanks for asking. Headed north now to avoid the heat. Global warming and all, or as we used to call it, summer.
Best to all.
Meya just cannot help but to be mendoucheous.
Hey newrouter! What are you drinking tonight?
“Comment by Mikey NTH on 6/11 @ 6:44 pm #
See what I mean? Mr. von Brunn is outside of any part of the American political sphere.”
Nonsense.
He didn’t create his political views ab initio, they are part and parcel of a loooong history of reactionary leftist thought stretching all the way back to the French Revolution.
“Again – where in normal American political life does Ted Kaczynski fall?”
The reactionary left.
“He didn’t create his political views ab initio, they are part and parcel of a loooong history of reactionary leftist thought stretching all the way back to the French Revolution.”
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/06/11/alleged-holocaust-museum-shooter-had-given-up-hate-site-planned-other-attacks/
What a lefty.
“Sadly, conservatives seem to have lost their touch at translating obvious bullshit into votes.”
We sold the franchise to the O!bama administration.
I mean, you voted for him, right?
“What a lefty.”
The first correct thing you’ve ever typed, meya.
This is as ridiculous as putting an NAACP lawyer on the court. Oh wait.
Well, spell it out then. Oh wait. You can’t.
Racial preference is racial privilege, and you are down with that, no matter how absurd and illiberal it may be.
Yes, because everyone knows the Constitution is subservient to the will of the people.
Meya – Let’s see if you can answer a direct question. I know, I know … silly me. Explain the differences between Von Nutjob’s view and Jeremiah Wright’s views.
pablo did you stop beating your wife?
Well Mr Dapper, thanks for the demonstration of hubris. Enjoy it while it lasts kid. It never does. It’s called history kiddo. Look into it.
What did Todd Palin say to Olbermann?
Mush!
fucking chavez this guy. one vote one time
Dapper is a douchenozzle, but is illustrative of the Leftist lust for power over others.
Mel!
NOBrain — I lean towards your opinion of von Brunn and Kaczynski, but get what Mikey’s saying, too. Those two wouldn’t be able to lead any movement larger than a short bus[*], but they were certainly steeped in a certain ethos. I remember a lot of “well… he has a point” noise from the left after Kaczynski’s “manifesto” was published, and apparently von Brunn’s peculiar strain of “thought” was heavily fertilized by Chomsky and works with titles like “Is Capitalism Dead?”
I’ve also never seen conservatives or Republicans reluctant to make it clear that nominally “right-wing” extremists are not welcome. Even relatively mild comments that intimate approval of racist beliefs are enough to cost a conservative or Republican politician their position. Sure, some of that is political calculation — but mostly it’s because conservatives and Republicans are vehemently non-racist.
This doesn’t mean there aren’t idiot conservatives or Republicans. It means we don’t bless them. We don’t go around making up excuses for allied groups calling themselves “The Race”. We don’t put a guy who spent twenty years calling an unabashed racist and antisemite his spiritual mentor into the White House.
[*] — The counter example being Jim Jones. His “religion” was thinly veiled Marxism; poorly developed liberation theology. He was lauded by leftist luminaries, who praised his “good works” and his teachings while carefully ignoring every sign of his mental instabilities. It was only after paranoia fed by leftist conspiracy theories about the CIA led to the mass murder/suicide of his followers that the left began building a wall between him and themselves.
Hi Maggie.
I hesitate even to post this.
hey trent don’t say that. mr. jerry wright says this. liberal wiggers knows your language
Don’t have one to beat, newrouter. Did you stop beating your meat? And, what are you drinking tonight?
Dapper – You are not original, nor witty, or even good in comparison to other trolls. You should be ashamed.
yeah, at least it took Sammy a week or two to get hammered.
Hmmmm…
This is what The Andy Griffin Show would have been like…if Barney killed Andy, buried him in the basement, and had a tazer to use on Aunt Bea to keep her in line.
Okay, it is not a total slam dunk in her favor because she said she was getting in her truck, but he could have easily overpowered her or blocked her from doing so. The officer was letting his own emotions go too. Reminded me a little of Andrew Sullivan, going after Sarah Palin (only difference being Sarah Palin could probably physically kick this cop’s and Andrew Sullivan’s ass at the same time).
Dapper, you remind me of an old golf partner. He would hit a great shot and then talk a lot of trash. Most of tje time he would miss the putt. There’s a lesson in there if you care to look for it.
oh a twofer. pablo are you still an idiot?
I wish I had a dime for every “chocolate chip cookies” hit on Google. Did you have a point?
pablo are you still a neocon?
Never been one. What are you drinking tonight, hero?
a fucking idiot like you has one on the top of your head obama
yo asshat the dave letterman school of masterbate don’t work here
Hey, you’d have $32.00. Sweet! I’d have $21K for my cookies.
I take it you’re drinking kerosene, then?
yo pablo do you speak “illegal alien”?
i take it that ad homo attacks are your only shot of looking like a dickhead. you suckceeded
hey pablo
when did you stop beating obama’s meat?
aw, is google fight defunct?
This is the comment where I giggle at newrouter suggesting that I’m an O!-bot. Because idiots are funny. See Joe Biden.
Pablo and Newrouter
Might I suggest pistols at dawn?
You think we ever could have an NAACP lawyer on the court? I mean, “advancement of colored people†? Ridic!
Yes, I grok your fealty to racial privilege. Paleo-leftist is the new conservative, blue hair optional.
Only if you’re willing to spot router some ammo, Mel. Fair is fair, after all.
I was actually surprised when Sean Hannity’s forum was only number three for “stocking up on ammo”.
At this point, I believe you all need to apologize to Janet Napolitano.
Unless, of course, you hate and fear strong liberal women.
I’d figure Janet Napolitano will want to apologize to Janet Napolitano, don’t you? She did take herself to the ground for the pin after all.
Dear jeff, please consider doing a weekly podcast. I offer my meager tech info to help! :)
Mel – That is a very apt description, except Dapper is the kind that once saw someone else hit a great shot, basks in the glory of same as though he did it, and then later on down the line, starts telling the story where he was the one that hit the great shot.
I believe we need to start casting the stink eye at WWII vets, especially those registered as Democrats.
Pablo and Newrouter,
Conservation of force for future action is often a wise choice. I would suggest that you both make that choice.
Where in Napolitano’s warning were we asked to be on the lookout for 80-year-old Democratic WWII vets who parrot a good deal of the progressive platform and idolize Margaret Sanger?
80 year old vets? Am I on the list? Crap, I’m going fishing.
great. just remember Janet will be watching you.
Is “illegal alien” like “Austrian”?
No Mel, Marines are exempt from that list…
But driving a winnebago..? That might be a crime soon…
Can you fit all your gear in a Hyundai..?
Just kiddin’, good luck fishing!
Until Next Time,
Best Wishes
Janet can watch all she wants. Maybe if she learned to tie a fly she wouldn’t be so uptight.
I’m guessing the shooter didn’t vote for Obama.
yes. But not everyone who didn’t vote for Obama is the shooter.
And thus ends my visit to Protein Wisdom. Best to all.
Not everyone who’s Muslim shoots up recruiting stations or (supposedly) makes trans-atlantic flights go down, but you’d never know it hanging around here.
good night, Mel
oh. I didn’t know that about the Muslims. If that’s true then definitely I think the non-shooty ones should be applauded.
(clap, clap)
There’s, like, 1.2 billion of them who don’t shoot.
If we got together and gave them each a red velvet cupcake for to be like positive reinforcement, that would be an unprecedented number of red velvet cupcakes to where I honestly don’t even know if that’s feasible, Sammy.
well, I love any excuse to make red velvet cupcakes. Is there a holiday in June that might require them?
Juneteenth? Yay! Freedom! In Texas! I think freedom cupcakes would be beautiful and timely.
oh, Father’s Day. duh. and RTO tells me that Flag day is also the Army’s birthday.
I wish I had a dime for every “stocking up on ammo†hit on teh Google.
I wish I had ammo for every “stocking up on ammo†hit on teh Google.
[…] and here’s Jeff, whom I’m either squabbling with or crushing on—I can’t remember which: I can […]
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G*dd#mn, M%therf@cking number 22s.
Sammy, until you’ve read the Koran, I suggest you have a heaping helping of STFU. The danger isn’t just the “shooty types”; the danger is the percentage of that 1.2 billion who have read the Suras about dividing the world into the D’ar al Islam and the D’ar al Harb (hint:well over 90%) and send money, materials, and the occasional warm body to kill everyone who isn’t a Muslim / a slave.
“Not everyone who’s Muslim shoots up recruiting stations…”
But all recruiting station shooters are muslim.
“…or (supposedly) makes trans-atlantic flights go down, but you’d never know it hanging around here.”
But it wasn’t for want of trying.
BTW, you know a lot of Amish shoe bombers?
Amish horse shoe bombers?
Comment by Mel on 6/11 @ 7:41 pm #
“Danger,
Please remember, all that have gone before you are with you now. Do us proud.”
Thanks Mel, and I will do my best.
If I had raised the right flag I probably could have avoided this deployment. But as hard as it was to leave my family, squirming out of it would have been dishonerable.
Too many good men like Staff Sargeant John Beale (refered to @ #53) gave everything they had and deserve someone to pick up the ball for them.
I’ll be darned if I am going to let them down.
Fair winds Mel,
I made it to where that crazy jackass in the fedora breaks through the glass wall. But I’ll happily read your quick synopsis.
Why the surprise? NOW lobbies hard and eternally for the system that once had Letterman falsely accused of domestic violence from half a nation away.
Er, its only a few orders of magnitude more people than who read about how a usurper is gonna take everything away and destroy western civilization. Those few orders actually go out and follow the “courageous†conclusion to saw an infidel head off rather than just talk about it.
Assuming that’s where that piece of crap you wrote was headed, meya. Law briefs much? My excuse is I don’t write for a living.
“Yeah, its only a fraction of the people who read about how a usurper is gonna take everything away and destroy western civilization that actually go out and follow the “courageous†conclusion rather than just talk about it.”
The evidence clearly points to James von Brunn having heard and believed the lefts lies and fabrications about Boosh having bombed the WTC and invading Afghanistan and Iraq in a “illegal and immoral war for oil” as the driving force for him making his “courageous†decision.
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A very tiny fraction of a basic shitload of people adds up nonetheless to be quite a few. Try .083% of 1.2 billion as an example.
“#Comment by meya on 6/12 @ 6:11 am #
And he better do it before the mulatto takes away his guns.”
Why do hate brown people so?
Where in Napolitano’s warning were we asked to be on the lookout for 80-year-old Democratic WWII vets who parrot a good deal of the progressive platform and idolize Margaret Sanger?
Heh. Is it wrong for the proprietor to be the thread-winner? There’s prolly some small type somewhere that say’s Jeff’s prohibited.
I’m guessing the shooter didn’t vote for Obama.
And, that’s prolly the totality of the crossover in the Venn diagram between the shooters’ views, and those of “conservatives.”
meya, why so afraid to see this guy was a basket of really weird things, mostly handpicked from the far-Left shelf of the store? Nobody here is claiming that since he hated “neo-cons” we need to make sure no registered Democrats have access to firearms or are allowed within 500 feet of Bill Kristol.
“meya, why so afraid to see this guy was a basket of really weird things, mostly handpicked from the far-Left shelf of the store?”
Because he’s a right wing extremist. Which is not to be confused with a conservative. If an enviro wacko decides to take out some neighborhood development or union owned project, that doens’t make him a right wing union buster or anti-government spending nutcase. He’s still an enviro wacko and a left wing extremist that our government agencies warn us about. I mean, you all know that there are right wing extremists that hate neocons and jews right? New world order black helicopter types. The non-extremist non-hate part of that is the right wingness that people like pat buchanan espouse. The fact that pat doesn’t like neocons does’nt make him left.
I think the problem here is for people who can’t grasp extremes. They think the ALF/ELF is in charge of congress in the form of nancy pelosi, so they see this guy and they cant have him associated with the mainstream right, so the reaction is to turn him into the left. Rather than seeing that the extreme right and extreme left are the source of this terrorism, not the people who actually get elected.
Your explanation falls apart, Meya, because the term “right winger” has been thrown at just about everyone to the left of Kathleen Parker.
Perchance if you don’t look as the right/left dichotomy as a line. And, instead – a circle.
I mean, you all know that there are right wing extremists that hate neocons and jews right? New world order black helicopter types. The non-extremist non-hate part of that is the right wingness that people like pat buchanan espouse.
So, Pat Buchanan is JUST like the shooter, only a bit more grounded. Got it.
That’s why he’s always guesting on MSNBC, Carin. Because of the mainstream winger bonafides.
meya,
With all due respect this guy probably voted for neither major party candidate last fall…
He hates Booooosh! nearly as much as you do. He despises neo-cons, and all that they stand for. He’s an extremem anti-semite, which judging by the Presidents mentor’s and the prevailing sentiments is a viable mainstream point of view in the Democratic party. And finally, he is a NAZI, which is an ultra-nationalistic socialist; and although the Democrats have become the party of “hate/blame America first”, they are clearly the party of a socialist mindset that borders on communism…
He’s the kind of guy Bill Buckley ran out of he conservative movement 50 years ago…
Regardless of your semantics game, this guy was anything but right wing; even though you all would definately want to make the right the ideology of racism…
But that convoluted meta-narrative is the subject of most certainly a whole different thread…
all that said, have a lovely Friday
“Because he’s a right wing extremist.”
Yeah just like his hero Adolf Hitler right? Oh well except for the “National Socialism”.
“So, Pat Buchanan is JUST like the shooter, only a bit more grounded. Got it.”
See this is the part where I’m talking about the problem is people don’t grasp extremes.
“He’s the kind of guy Bill Buckley ran out of he conservative movement 50 years ago…”
Exactly. And not because he was too liberal. But because he’d be the type to actually lynch people, rather than write articles about how the south is entitled to take steps necessary to control blacks.
“Your explanation falls apart, Meya, because the term “right winger†has been thrown at just about everyone to the left of Kathleen Parker.”
Look man, nancy pelosi is left wing and pat buchanan is right. This guy an extremist of the latter, not the former.
Danger,
If you were really getting ready to deploy, you’d know how to spell “Sergeant”. I call bullshit.
Danger,
My apologies. I had you confused with another commenter. Disregard my previous.
Good luck and Godspeed.
He’s a Nazi meya and you know what that means, even though you chose to lie and distort the truth.
“He’s a Nazi meya and you know what that means”
An extremist of this:
http://buchanan.org/blog/buchanan%E2%80%99s-necessary-book-1557
Perchance if you don’t look as the right/left dichotomy as a line. And, instead – a circle.
Better yet, a plane.
SFAG and Buchanan are both at about 5, 1′.
Look man, nancy pelosi is left wing and pat buchanan is right.
Look, woman, “right” and “left” in the sense you’re using them are utterly meaningless, other than as a rhetorical cudgel.
You can tell by his Reform Party membership, his perch at MSNBC and his anti Israel sentiment.
Um… he’s a close friend of the Kennedys?
Excepting his party membership, Buchanan’s indistinguishable from most Democrats.
I wasn’t really listening, but did Meya just say she thinks Buchanan is right?
“An extremist of this:”
So now your saying it’s MSNBC’s fault?
SBP, that was kinda interesting.
The shooter’s political leanings were so bizarre, how ’bout we say it’s utterly useless to put him on a right/left line.
But, the issue is, Meya, we KNOW why the “he’s a right winger” line is being repeated so often. We know. It is an attempt, by the media, to smear conservatives with the taint of Von Bron. How is this NPR headline for you. “Was the Holocaust Museum Shooter a Right-Winger?” Notice the absence of the word “extreme”. I see, though, that is where you got your talking points about Buchanan.
Make of that what you will.
lest people begin noticing a few uncomfortable similarities in political vision between this Nazi-sympathizing leftover from the Greatest Generation and the current political power holders.
That would require the leftists to remove their ideological blinders. Let me know when the Four Horsemen arrive, because that’s about the only time that that’s likely to happen.
I keep repeating myself, but a Venn diagram would be helpful. Overlap of the shooter’s believes and the two political parties.
This article brings to mind another story which has been deemed not news worthy by the media, which ideology spawned this?
Why did the press ignore the firebombing of Sarah Palin’s church?
By Dave Gibson
Link
The real question is how long did it take MAINSTREAM leftwing pundits and activists to start gameplanning how this holocaust pyscho’s murder of an American citizen could be used for a political advantage? Would anyone even give them 5 minutes?
I love me some Pournelle, but his axes aren’t the only ones to use. I’m rather fond of the Nolan Chart, particularly in its diamond orientation as presented by the World’s Smallest Political Quiz. Those two axes cover most of domestic politics, but there needs to be a third for foreign policy, and let’s not even go into abortion, which divides even those who strongly believe in both personal and economic liberty.
I took that quiz Monster, agreeing with every question…
It told me i was libertarian; and here all along I thought I was an eeeeevil RethugliKKKan!
You can be both, Bob. I am also a registered Rep and an ideological Libbie. (Note that parties are coalitions of ideological groups.)
mean, you all know that there are right wing extremists that hate neocons and jews right?
The lying little fascist was at it again. In case nobody pointed it out, there is nothing uniquely right wing about hatred of neocons and Jews. In fact, the combination of hatred of neocons and Jews appears to be uniquely Leftwing. For you to claim that is Right wing is to ignore the rhetoric from your side of the aisle for the last 8 years. Then, meya pulls out Buchanon, instead of, let’s say, Jeremiah Wright.
It should be noted that Kos is a veteran, and that he does have some political views, and is rather vocal about those views.
I think DHS ought to keep an eye on him lest he go on some rampage.
And keep an eye on that Frank Buckles – can’t trust those WWI vets.
Dude shot a black man in the Holocaust Museum.
Sowwy JeffieG, fail on empirical data.
There is nothing “empirical” about the blather you puke out, nishidiot.
Also dude served 6 years for attempting to kidnap members of the Fed Reserve, on the whole jews-control-the-world conspiracy theory.
Hated Jews and Blacks and wrote a whole bunch about it.
Your misdirect is not working JeffieG.
Do you have The Fisher King in your Infinite Movie Playlist?
Can I send it to you if you don’t?
Nishi’s apparently under the impression that she can joust in shorthand on a blog where everyone thinks she’s weird and creepy.
Abe – Nishit is under the impression that she is sentient and sane.
Nishi freaks me out. In a bunny in a pot of boiling water sorta way. She just exudes ickiness.
It’s the combination of appearing developmentally disabled and calling for eugenics.
Whenever I see Nishi’s name I get an image of orderlies in white coats running behind her.
Silver Whistle – Like I always say, every time I see that name show up, I realize that some hospital has lost a patient, and some orderly is out looking for her, again.
JD, I hope she has a label, like Paddington Bear. Then I wouldn’t worry so much about her getting lost in the big world.
The orderly should considered RFID or an ankle bracelet.
JD, that doesn’t seem so bad, if a little unsightly. A Paddington label would be a little cuter, though. Especially if she had a duffle coat and red wellies.
No, I am weird and creepy.
Not to mention a liar.
No, I am weird and creepy.
I’m sure if you spent a little time on your wardrobe, met some nice friends, took your Chlorpromazine, maybe painted your bedroom a nice pastel, then you wouldn’t see things that way.
“Excepting his party membership, Buchanan’s indistinguishable from most Democrats.”
Fascinating stuff guys. Really.
The problem with dumbshits is that they don’t know they’re dumbshits (because they’re dumbshits), so they just go on and on and on as if they were contributing something interesting or useful, as opposed to just smearing their feces on the comment box and clicking “Say It!”
It isn’t dissent, it isn’t an alternative opinion, it isn’t an intellectual challenge, it’s dumb shit.
And who here hates Obama? I disapprove of every policy position of his I can figure out through the clouds of unicorn dust and Skittles, but hate him? Nah.
thor, OTOH? Hate is not the exact word I’d choose. Loathe and despise are lots closer.
Oh, and meya? von Brun is registered in Maryland as a Democrat. Just like Democrats Fred Phelps and Kleagle Byrd, two other fine examples of Democrat tolerance.
The James W. von Brunn “Thing” (UPDATED)…
So a “white supremacist” goes into a Holocaust Museum… sounds like the beginning to a bad joke huh? But a joke its not, the ass hat walked in, started shooting and the spin machines oiled up to start rolling.
Other coverage…
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