June 4, 2009

The Perquisites [Dan Collins]

See what you bought, America?

Rep Barney Frank (D-Mass.) won a stay of execution on Thursday for a General Motors plant in his district that the automaker had announced it would close.

No other lawmaker has managed to halt the GM ax. As chairman of the House Financial Services Committee Frank oversees the government’s bailout program, known as TARP. Frank’s staff said the lawmaker spokes with GM CEO Fritz Henderson on Wednesday and convinced him to keep the Norton, Mass. plant open for at least 14 months.

GM announced Monday in its bankruptcy and restructuring plans it would close of nine of its plants and idle three others. The automaker said it would also shutter three service and parts operations by the end of the year — one of which is in Frank’s district.

“I greatly appreciate General Motors’ willingness to take into consideration the wider needs of the company and especially the community,” Frank said in a statement. “Keeping the facility open for this extra time gives workers a chance to look at other opportunities, while at the same time continuing to provide for their families.”

What a nauseating whore. Like Pelosi’s CIA lies, though, this repugnant selfishness will endear him to the base.

From Zero Hedge:

One particular declaration caught my eye, that of Ethel L. Cook, a dealer based in downtown Little Rock, a town near and dear to the former resident. I believe readers can draw their own conclusions based on Mr. Cook’s sworn testimony (highlights mine).

On May 13, 2009, I received a letter from Chrysler notifying the Dealership that Chrysler had elected to “reject” our Dealer Agreement. I am obviously very familiar with the Little Rock, Arkansas dealer network and was surprised because both Cook and Crain, the only Chrysler dealers in Little Rock, were both rejected. Therefore, Chrysler’s action would, on its face, result in a complete lack of representation in a major American city. Since that would be a ludicrous result, one can only infer that Chrysler has a more sinister motive.

Because it is inconceivable that Chrysler will not have a dealership in Little Rock going forward, the only conclusion that one could draw is that, after review, the evidence in other markets in the region, that Chrysler now intends to “give” the Little Rock market to a Landers-related dealer.

Having reviewed the pattern of assumption and rejection of dealers throughout their region, I have detected a pattern: In every market where there is a dealership connected with former Penske Automotive executive Steve Landers, or his new automotive partnership with “Mac” McLarty (former Chief of Staff for President Clinton) and Robert L. Johnson (majority owner of the Charlotte Bobcats), the competitors are rejected.

In the Little Rock, Landers Chrysler Dodge Jeep is located far out of town in Benton, Arkansas. Nevertheless, the two Little Rock dealers, Cook and Crain were rejected.

In the Fayetteville, Arkansas area, Landers-McLarty Dodge Chrysler Jeep is located far out of town in Bentonville, Arkansas. Competitors Springdale Dodge Chrysler, Steve Smith County Jeep and Jones Brothers were all rejected.

In the Shreveport, Louisiana market, Lee’s Summit Dodge Chrysler Jeep (a Landers McLarty dealership) is located in Bossier City, Louisiana. Both competitive dealers, Claude de Beaux in Vivian, Louisiana and Greater Birmingham Dodge Chrysler in Shreveport were rejected.

In the Springfield, Missouri market, Tri-Lakes Motors (a Landers-McLarty dealership) is located in Branson, Missouri. Competitors Heritage Chrysler Jeep in Ozark, Missouri and Ramsay Motor Company in Harrison, Arkansas were rejected. A pattern seems to be emerging. Everywhere there is a Landers-McLarty dealership, Chrysler has rejected the competition.

In the Huntsville, Alabama market, Landers McLarty Dodge Chrysler Jeep, is located in Huntsville. Competitor Cloverleaf Chrysler Dodge Jeep was rejected.

Favoritism and cronyism towards preferred dealer group is not a valid exercise of business judgment.

Posted by Dan Collins @ 3:33pm
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Comments (206)

  1. and convinced him

    thor says business is war.

  2. Remember, the President said he didn’t want to be in the car business. He didn’t say anything about members of Congress now, did he?

  3. And this will be done at someone else’s expense.

  4. Barney is a prime player in the sub-prime mess, lies about that, and now manages to save a plant run by a company he helped take down. This man gets around.

  5. More than 12,000 GM jobs are at stake in Democratic-held House seats, according to employment numbers for GM’s manufacturing plants, compared with roughly 3,000 jobs in Republican-held seats.

    Thanks, Dan. We’re going out to eat with friends tonight, and that sentence sent a thrill up my leg. Justice always does.

  6. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh how rat-fucking dumb my Democratic comrads are. After Dealergate turns out to be a complete fizzle, Barney Frank goes and does exactly the kind of government interference that Dealergate was looking for. And brags about it.

    On another topic: http://bitsandpieces.us/2009/06/04/creepy-crawler/

  7. Barney knows how to bring home the pork! He can deliver!

  8. How wrong you are, Sammy.

  9. This is so disgustingly blatant in its abuse of power. Frank doesn’t even try to look like he’s got the country’s best interests at heart. Not even a pretense.

    There are good arguments for non-geographic electoral systems, and this is one of them.

  10. So if I’m reading this correctly what this means is that Steve Landers is a dirty socialist whore what pisses on what America stands for. But it’ll be a moot point unless there’s wankers what buy his cheesy gay Fiat eurotrash fagmobiles.

  11. Here is an Ace observation: “So, even if there is a recovery, it’s strangled in the crib for want of oxygen.”

  12. “comrads,”…

    It’s comrad[e]s, sammy.

    Can’t grow up and work in the Democrat Politburo if you can’t spell “comrades.”

    Try and keep up.

    Barney Frank likes the cock, right? (NTTATWWT). Can we just pay a few TARP dollars to have some gay pornstar dude cornhole him into oblivion?

    Ya know, so he never comes back.

    We’d be happy. Barney’d be happy.

    Its win-win.

  13. And also OT, on another thread, someone said something like “Show me something Rush Limbaugh said that’s wrong.”

    Exhibit A

    And she would bring a form of racism, bigotry to the court. But as I said yesterday, folks, I may look past that. I’ve got a whole stack on Sotomayor today. You know she would be the sixth Catholic on the Supreme Court and there are a lot of people worried about that. That does not bother me at all. I know a lot of Catholics, I love Catholics. But Sotomayor, she’s a Catholic, and she doesn’t have a clear record on abortion and I’m, overturning Roe versus Wade, well, that could be huge. I don’t know that it’ll ever happen, but if, you know, the opportunity to get somebody like her — she’s a Catholic, she’s a devout Catholic. She’s a Hispanic Catholic, Puerto Rican, they tend to be devout. She hasn’t got a record on this. Normally liberals do have a record, I mean when they’re pro-choice, man they’re, they, they, they can’t [inaudible] it. They shout from mountaintops, they trumpet it. She hasn’t so I, I can see a possibility of supporting this nomination. If I can be convinced that she does have a sensibility toward life.

    Now I know most of you actually think Rush is an ass. For those that don’t give that a read.

  14. Let Barney Frank keep his loser UAW thug daycare center. What the fatass doesn’t get though is that his flamboyantly dirty socialist pressure tactics make it a lot unlikely that companies will want to invest in his district or even in his douchebag state.

  15. What do you think is wrong with that Rush statement, specifically, Sammy?

  16. @13. I don’t get it/

  17. Exhibit A huh? Well for starters, Sammy, you have to know that everyone here knows that you’re a dishonest little prick so using a quote that starts with “and” is not a real good approach for you.

  18. You’re right Abe, I make the whole fucking thing up.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_060309/content/01125107.guest.html

    Really, who sees something wrong with Rush’s comment. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

  19. “And also OT, on another thread, someone said something like”…

    What are you, 6 years old?

    I’m embarrassed FOR you.

    What’s next? “This one time, at band camp, someone said something like”…

    FUCK OFF mate, and fetch a search party that can maybe find you a shred of credibility. No way that search team can also find your dignity, but…”on another thread, someone said something like” new technology can spot penguin crap from orbit. Maybe you can find your dignity that way.

    An orbital shit finder. It’ll spot you in no time.

    But I’d give it a day or two to find your dignity.

  20. I’m still not convinced there’s much there on dealergate. Penske’s a legend; anyone who worked for him for long probably has his shit pretty tight in terms of the auto business, regardless of any dubious associations with former Clinton staffers.

    Bottom line, you’d have to see the sales numbers, along with customer satisfaction data, for each dealer, in order to determine whether what they’re doing makes sense or not.

    It’s no secret that all the “Big Three” have wanted to close a number of dealers for some time now, and bankruptcy allows them to do it quickly and relatively painlessly without having to fight things out in a bunch of state courts.

    I talked with an auto insider, an F&I guy who has been in the business for ~20 years, 17 of those with Chrysler dealers, and his take on it based on his knowledge of the local market here in KC is that they’re closing dealers who either sell relatively few cars in comparison to the dealers remaining open, or those who have refused to become full-line dealers for whatever reason. In other words, his analysis is that Chrysler is closing them based on sound business reasoning. And he’s no former Clinton staffer; dude’s from Texas and actually has a George W. Bush special limited edition pocket knife.

  21. I don’t see as much as a punctuation mark wrong with it, Sammy. So hold forth on morality, egotist.

  22. Lamontyoubigdummy (#19) – You’re right. I made the whole thing up. Oh, wait:

    http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=14992#comment-728349

    B Moe: Why don’t you give us an example? Pick out an argument he has made lately and refute it with a real argument instead of invective. Show us some chops, dude, lead by example.

    http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=14992#comment-728391

    So who’s on board with Exhibit A(#13)?

  23. “Refute it with a real argument”, you child.

  24. Really, I have to refute #13? It’s not glaringly bad all by itself?

  25. Just don’t expect the MSM to look into the story, should there be one. Nothing to see here, just move along.

  26. Sammy: I’m not smelling ya.

  27. Wow, 14 comments later, and no one can see anything wrong with what Rush said in #13. Stupidity meter is climbing off the charts. Who will save you?

  28. Who will save you?

    Probably you.

    So?

  29. Yes Sammy refute it so we can get some incite into your twisted mind.

    I don’t see anything wrong with what Rush said, he’s throwing a idea out for the dumbass proggs to sweat about. Good for him.

  30. I asked nicely, but Sammy would rather feel superior.

  31. Sorry, I have to give more time. I know there’s people with intellect here. I’m waiting for them to weigh in. Otherwise, this place is far more pathetic than I could have possibly imagined.

  32. I see the oozing rectal fistula is still babbling.

  33. Did B Moe ask you to copy and paste part of a quote and then dance around like a spastic tard?

  34. Otherwise, this place is far more pathetic than I could have possibly imagined.

    What an opportunity, huh?

  35. That quote isn’t even from the link that Sammy provided.

  36. Sammy, what’s leftism’s redeeming quality? Nobody seems to know.

  37. I don’t think Sammy is waiting for “people with intellect” to weigh in. I think Sammy isn’t really sure whats wrong with that quote except that it might say something about an Obama appointee that it’s possible he disagrees with. He’s hoping someone will tell him why.

  38. Did B Moe ask you to copy and paste part of a quote and then dance around like a spastic tard?

    No, but I would have if I had thought of it.

  39. Important stuff to do LOL! You seem to have plenty of time to drool you “Journalist” talking points non stop, Show us the light.

  40. You’re right Abe, I make the whole fucking thing up.

    Ummm no, stupid. I didn’t suggest you made it up. What I more than suggested is that you are a child and that pulling a quote starting with “and” is not a good practice for someone everyone here knows is dishonest.
    Leftards deliberately use conservative’s quotes out of context all the time so you best accept that we’re more than on to it.

    As to the actual quote you selected, why would I accuse you of making it up or using it out of context when I don’t even know what your fucking point is in offering it up?

  41. Abe – you know what its point is. It does not want to talk about the abject dishonesty and actual crony capitalism that the Dems are demonstrating.

  42. Sammy, if this is a test, we’ve failed. Time to go to another site and test for intelligent, enlightened life. Goodbye.

  43. B Moe – Got anything else you would like to see it try? ‘Cuz it pretty much flunked this one.

  44. so how’s come sammy just state what he finds wrong with limbaugh statement?
    instead he does the neddle in haystack thing. progg man up or get extendz

  45. 29 comments later, and Rush’s comment is still hunky-dory to all. Wow. Abso-fucking-lutely amazing.

  46. No ones said that you self righteous little prick. So why not stop being coy and enlighten us what you think is wrong with it.

  47. You guys are so shrewd at analyzing what people say, and you’re really having trouble seeing anything glaring about El-Rushbo’s comment? Really?

    With you super-sleuthing dealergate, and parsing things Sotomayor said years and years ago, and this paragraph is hard? Pretend a liberal said it. See if that helps.

  48. Sammy – B Moe notes above that he did not ask you to dance around like a spastic tard. He asked you to show your work, and explain what you disagree with. Congrats on being able to copy and paste part of a quote. Those special education dollars are getting a pretty good bang for their buck with you.

    Has this been National Short Bus week for the trolls?

  49. Been gone for a while and haven’t seen the new troll. Who the hell is Sammy and why should I care?

  50. I like where it was shown that Sotomayor was using the Latina woman being a better jurist that a white male since as far back as 1994, so it was no slip of the tongue, or as Sammy lied about, having her mouth get ahead of her brain.

  51. Really?

    *

  52. Sammy. Has it occured to you that you might be the pathetic one. BTW I’ve asked you a number of questions and I’m not all up in your face about it. I just figure you don’t know shit.

  53. Hey, JD, how come this [in a legal sense, of course, in a real sense.] fell off the end to be replaced by a period?

  54. Abso-fucking-lutely amazing.

    So’s this.

  55. Life is too short to wait for what is undoubtedly going to be a letdown. Have fun with your 8 commandments Sammy. Try not to hurt yourself.

  56. “Who will save you?”

    My money is on Rorschach. Conflicted, but does the right thing.

    DO NOT trust Dr. Manhattan. Guy’s fucking out there man. Plus he’s immortal and stuff.

    “29 comments later, and Rush’s comment is still hunky-dory to all. Wow. Abso-fucking-lutely amazing.”

    We’re all a bit busy pointing and laughing at you. Have you heard Rush’s show in the last 12 months or did you just go a big wet rubbery one reading that quote over at FireDogLake?

    Here’s your homework assignment junior: Go Google “Operation Chaos,” then think real hard, and get back to us.

  57. Pretend a liberal said it.

    a bigot err liberal would harp on the catholic thing

  58. Sdferr – I do not follow.

  59. a big wet rubbery one reading that quote over at FireDogLake?

    PC is SELF-EVIDENT, Lamont, you big dummy.

  60. Follow the link to Limbaugh’s site. It got dropped from the pull quote, looks like. (Not that it actually matters all that much, I just notice when longish meaningful phrases like that get replaced by periods, is all, and figure it usually doesn’t happen by accident, though it can.)

  61. Sammy, and the other etc., etc., etc. Any topic, any thread, always has to be about them. What they think is the important thing to talk about. It’s a way of derailing any topic that threatens their warm little comfy chair world.

  62. When does Obama’s automobile industry plan get to the “creating jobs” part?

  63. It’s already working, creating many good government and union management positions.

  64. well there’s the car czar and his staff

  65. JD – sdferr is meaning that that one person… I don’t know who it is … the one that quoted Mr. Limbaugh about Sotomayor … he truncated Mr. Limbaugh’s quote at the very end and left off the part in sdferr’s brackets. brb.

  66. Gotcha, sdferr. Counting on a troll to be honest or fair is like trusting the Gleeeeens to properly represent the content of a link.

  67. oh. I think I lost time there for a second. It’s almost time to go home anyway. This is me packing things up.

  68. Pathetic. You can’t even see the problem with Rush’s statement, and yet you’d be all over it if a liberal said anything 1/10 that bad. Afraid you’ll have to issue an apology if you criticize it?

    I had no idea anyone could suck as bad as you guys are proving to. I’m really happy you can turn on the “Duh, I’m a complete fucking idiot.” switch the instant something comes close to shimmering your alternate reality bubble.

  69. Chinese civilization is very very old as such things go. It’s a damn shame they’ve had to kill so many of their own people so often over their history, but they did invent Fried Rice of many delicious combinations, so I’ll cheer them for that today, rather than boo them for their massacres. Yay Fried Rice, O Chinese! With roast pork.

    Here’s hoping they don’t have to kill so many again anytime soon.

  70. Dear Sammy,

    Please help us dumb folk to understand what’s wrong with what Rush said – and why – so that we can share in your outrage.

    Hugs and kisses,

    Dumb Guy

  71. Sammy we are all laughing at you, Rush doesn’t do PC. He says things to prick people just like you. Hell it wouldn’t surprise me if Rush isn’t reading this and laughing his ass off at you as well.

  72. You can’t even see the problem with Rush’s statement,

    which one the truncated or the real one?

  73. Sammy really thinks this is his site. I got to get that dictionary he uses. Retsbew-Mairrem it is I think.

  74. sammy you’re so superior please help us dumb assholes see the light

  75. Ok, but you’re going to say, “that’s not what he said.”

    If you paraphrase what he’s saying, it boils down to, “I believe she’s a complete racist, but I’d be willing to look past that, if I thought she’d vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, which she might do based on catholic beliefs.”

  76. I think Sammy doesn’t realize that Rush is trying to get the lefties to start worrying that she is pro-life and litmus test her out of the nomination. Either that or do the old Star Trek “whatever i say is a lie” schtick and cause their giant computer brains to burn out.

  77. “I believe she’s a complete racist, but I’d be willing to look past that, if I thought she’d vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, which she might do based on catholic beliefs.”

    so?

  78. newrouter, I hope you’ve never said phrases like, “rule of law”, or “constitution”, or “judicial activist”. If so, I shit in your general direction, sir.

  79. John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, is credited with inventing the sammy, variously attributed for use at the card table or to take for a snack while hunting. His wasn’t an invention of any great variety, though down the ages many different sorts of sammies have been found. Roy Passin (who, is he still with us? Horrors, no! Damnit.) invented hundreds of sammies over his career, for instance. God bless you Roy, for the sammies and the many good times in days gone by.

  80. newrouter, I hope you’ve never said phrases like, “rule of law”, or “constitution”, or “judicial activist”. If so, I shit in your general direction, sir.

    how about “progg idiot”?

  81. “Pathetic. You can’t even see the problem with Rush’s statement, and yet you’d be all over it if a liberal said anything 1/10 that bad.”

    ?

    Ok dumb dumb, take out a pen and paper and pay attention. If Rush pretends to “back” Soto-ma-YOR because she’s pro life, a threat to Roe v. Wade, etc, then the champion baby-killers on your side of the isle read that quote, freak the hell out, and Judge La-Raza Soto-ma-YOR starts taking heavy fire from BOTH sides.

    You shouldn’t attempt to tutor the folks around here on politics sammy (or anything else for that matter). It’s the deep end of the pool and you ain’t got no water wings.

    “I had no idea anyone could suck as bad as you guys are proving to. I’m really happy you can turn on the “Duh, I’m a complete fucking idiot.” switch the instant something comes close to shimmering your alternate reality bubble.”

    Saddest thing I’ve ever read (I think it’s the grammar).

  82. Sammies, I’ve found LYBD, don’t really make arguments. They just sit there on the plate waiting to be dressed with condiments and eaten.

  83. Right. It’s the game within the game. It’s great Rush said it, because he didn’t mean it, so there’s nothing wrong with it.

    That’s beautiful. If right-wing hack says something egregious, it’s just a clever tactic. I see why he leads your party. Bigot like a fox!

  84. Sammy are mentally challenged? Seriously. What’s wrong with you Sammy?

  85. I wonder if Limbaugh really supported Hillary Clinton?

  86. Sammy is just a follower, he’s not smart. He’s unaware there is a world out there that doesn’t play PC. Typical basement dwelling “radical”.

  87. If right-wing hack says something egregious, it’s just a clever tactic.

    yes overturning the penumbra of roe v. wade is a better thing than having a latina bigot on the court

  88. If “I may look past that” is what is considered egregious then what we really have here is a Sammy that might be too stupid to feed himself.

  89. You know, every single time someone starts to tell a knock-knock joke, I ask them to wait as I go answer the door.

  90. “Right. It’s the game within the game. It’s great Rush said it, because he didn’t mean it, so there’s nothing wrong with it.

    That’s beautiful. If right-wing hack says something egregious, it’s just a clever tactic. I see why he leads your party. Bigot like a fox!”

    There’s no…how do you not get…what the fuck does that…what school did you…

    OK, we should quit. sammy’s obviously about 12 years old (maybe an Ivy League professor’s kid or something).

    Come back when your older sammy (preferably when you’re working and paying taxes).

    You are currently too stupid to ride this ride.

  91. The Libtard tactic I find the most humorous, is when they say Conservatives are mean or whine about ad hominem. It’s gut bustingly hilarious.

  92. Hey, bh! How’s it going? Did you read Sotomayor’s speech to the La Raza Law confab at Berkley, bh? I wonder what your take would be on her position vis a vis using her personal view of abortion as a basis on which to rule in a case questioning Roe, given her judicial philosophy as expressed in that speech? Seems to me it wouldn’t be much of a problem for her at all, though maybe I’m reading her wrong.

  93. Okay, back to the car thing. Isn’t this more evidence of the political shenanigans for closing dealers? I’m not seeing how one guy can be teh bomb dealer in every single market, so good that he can knock out competition in towns miles away. Multiple times.

    In fact, doesn’t the GM/Frank think kinda prove the Chrysler conspiracies? Like, they got by with it before and no one cared, so let’s just be open?

    Without actual evidence of their methodoligies, I’m going with what info I have, which is the only common thread in what dealers were closed were their donation patterns and/or the donation patterns of their same-brand competition.

  94. Sammy is a racist.

  95. stop acorn sign the petition now:

    STOP ACORN

  96. Sammy,

    Try these two facts. 1) Limbaugh is an entertainer. Do you take everything your news anchor John Stewarts says seriously? 2) She will be confirmed regardless of what any Conservative does. The only way to stop her appointment is for Dems. to derail it themselves. No conservative is confident that her racialism is enough for the Dems to take her, but if she is pro-Life, how would you react?

  97. Hey, sdferr. No, I haven’t unfortunately. Picked up a one off consulting gig that’s requiring me to brush up on some pain in the ass technical junk. Also, the XX to my XY has a couple weeks without business travel so we’ve been trying to make the most of it.

  98. Sammy should read some of Jeffs intentionalism writings an stuff, I’m thinkin’. ‘Cause he left a whole bunch of intentionalism an shit above is his comments an shit. Dude is tiresome in his meme floggin’ an shit.

  99. Man! Sammy is wigging out! The stench of his desperation is palpable. Must have been the speech.

  100. Sigh. Sammy: Rush was being sarcastic. Sotomayor is almost undoubtedly not prolife and, even if she were, Rush would not endorse a racist, slightly stupid, left-leaning activist judge.

    He would, however, stir the waters by floating the idea of her religion (gasp!) and lack of pro-abortion creds (double gasp!) to tweak lefts whose only guiding lights are a hatred of Christianity and unborn babies. Ergo, it’s funny, as in a joke, to float the idea that she could be a closet Catholic prolifer because he knows that will enrage and terrify liberals.

    But jokes just aren’t funny when you have to explain them.

  101. Looks as though Obama’s trying hard to let his Uighurs go. Here in the good ol’ USofA even. Schade, for the nasty fallout sure to follow. Heh.

  102. Sammy regrouping. Sammy come back smart. Protein Wisdomers pay big price for mocking Sammy.

  103. Sdferr, do me a favor, toss me a link to the speech if you have it handy.

  104. One wonders Abe. That bread got kinda soggy and just disintegrated when you squeezed it only a little, tomatoes falling out the sides and lettuce strewn all over the joint. What a mess.

  105. “Sammy regrouping. Sammy come back smart. Protein Wisdomers pay big price for mocking Sammy.”

    It’s mean to say, but LMFAO.

    HULK Sammy SMASH!

  106. Here you go bh, at the NYT.

  107. Thanks, buddy.

  108. Oh, I’m smelling him now. Sammy, since we’re all stupid here, you may leave.

  109. OMG Sammah is dummerer than I gave it credit for. I love it when the trolls “paraphrase” and what inevitably follows is their own newly created fiction of what was actually said. It happens almost every fucking time.

  110. Sammy is “The Post Turtle” of PW LOL!

  111. Ella. You seem bright. I had this conversation over lunch, today, with my best friend. My best friend is very very Conservative, but he doesn’t pay nearly as close attention to the details and facts that I do.
    Ella. Sotomayor, is a Latina feminist. She has a chip on her shoulder as big as Puerrrrrrrrrrrrrrto Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrico. Opie picked her.
    Right?
    Name a liberal woman who is NOT pro-abortion.
    Name an Obama follower who is NOT pro-abortion.
    Name an appointee of the Opie admin, who doesn’t walk, crawl or limp….LOCK STEP with his extremism on virtaully every issue.

    Logic is simple. WALK,LOOK, QUACK……DUCK.

  112. “Looks as though Obama’s trying hard to let his Uighurs go.’

    Hell, how can he not? The Uighurs are Chinese. They’re collective families back in the home land probably now own a few billion of our new debt. Shit. Their release was almost certainly a part of the fucking buying agreement.

  113. Okay, sdferr, based solely on the speech, I find the third from last paragraph speaks most directly to your question. She acknowledges subjective experience colors perception but then states that those perceptions must be recognized and internally questioned for validity.

  114. One other miscellaneous Gus’s post-it-note.
    Barry Hussein Obama Soetoro Obama, voted NO on Sam Alito’s confirmation to the U.S.SUPREME COURT.
    Barry, God Damn Amerikkka, Hussein etc etc etc…voted no on Chief Justice Roberts confirmation to the U.S.SUPREME COURT.
    At those 2 instances, Opie was showing what he is. He is an angry angry, racially confused, affirmative action created, son of 2 Muslim fathers who both REJECTED him. Opie has CHOSEN to associate himself with others equally EMOTIONALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL freaks. If Michelle Obama and Judge Sotomayor were so uneasy, so un-welcome, and so unhappy at being GIVEN,the privelege of attending and graduating from Princeton……..
    WHY THE FUCK DIDN’T THEY GO SOMEWHERE THEY FELT MORE WELCOME?? And, why after being give such an advantage and PISSING ALL OVER IT, why do these LIBTARD INGRATES SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH IVY LEAGUERS?????????

  115. The para that begins “I also hope…”?

  116. Sorry, this one:

    Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion. I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences but I accept my limitations. I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate.

  117. bh, If Sotomayor thinks (and clearly she does), that personal experiences, specifically as relates to your race, can make you ostensibly a “better” Judge by virtue of experience and empathy…then…it naturally follows that, all P.R’s who went to Princeton and Yale on scholarship can relate to her, but those who didn’t cannot. Or it logically transfers that, cases involving WHITE BUSINESS men have a better chance of being ADJUDICATED more appropriately by WHITE MEN who have EMPATHY for WHITE BUSINESSMEN.

    It’s effing absurd. It’s ass backwards, it’s anti-American, it’s opposite of what the Constitution requires, and it’s HOPE AND CHANGE.

  118. gus, I think the beginning and middle of the speech varied between ingratiating herself, pandering, and loose thinking. To answer sdferr’s question though, where she speaks most directly to his topic, she gives the fairly unobjectionable boilerplate answer.

  119. But that “aspir[ation]” isn’t controlled by the statement two paras above, where she says

    “Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage.”

    or further up still, the more fundamental (to me, anyway) statement:

    Yet, because I accept the proposition that, as Judge Resnik describes it, “to judge is an exercise of power” and because as, another former law school classmate, Professor Martha Minnow of Harvard Law School, states “there is no objective stance but only a series of perspectives – no neutrality, no escape from choice in judging,”

  120. >>being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion<<

    Absolute horse shit. Chip on the shoulder bullshit.
    Imagine that I said that?? Me a first generation American, whose American father died when I was 10 months old. Imagine I decried “Latina’s” getting preference over ME, despite my family NEVER having any advantage, nor any culpability, in the “oh so casually claimed” WORLD that looks at this bitch sidewise???
    She is Obama’s Latina mirror image.

  121. Sdferr, I find that, overall, the speech gives proof to the characterization that she’s a bit of a muddled thinker and a poor writer.

    Where she seems to be summing up, she does go back to the fairly doctrinaire, “to attempt objectivity we must recognize and combat subjectivity”.

  122. “to attempt objectivity we must recognize and combat subjectivity”

    Not a quote, my paraphrase.

  123. Who sees something wrong with Henny’s comment. Anyone? Anyone? Sammy? Anyone?
    Take my wife…. Please”.

  124. bh, I think you are correct and wise. Pandering and loose thinking.
    No one, outside of Barbara Boxer considers Sotomayor a Constitutional scholar, nor do they consider her body of work to be “outstanding” in any way. She is a lib. She is a victim class lib. She is 2 for 2 in the victim class Opie world view. Actually 3 for 3. She is a “minority” victim as the daugher, NOT A NATIVE of Puerrrrrrrto Rrrrrrrrrrrrrico. She is a woman,ergo, another “minority” victim. She is liberal and can be counted on for her rulings as such. That’s 3. I disagree with the LITMUS tests that Opie used. Having said that. I don’t believe she is unqualified. And having said that, I believe her attitudes should require an HONEST JURIST to DISQUALIFY HERSELF.
    Unless you are an idiot, you can see that Judge Sotomayor views herself as a Puerto Rican woman who has been treated shabbily by America. It’s not hard to read between the lines. She is Michelle Obama with a judicial track record. I’m sure she is smart, and I’m sure she was an excellent student. I’m sure she doesn’t always ACT on her biases. BUT CLEARLY, CLEARLY, she was picked for her BIASES.

    THAT IS WRONG. CLEARLY.

  125. Were it not to make any difference in the outcome of judicial decisions that she (or anyone else for that matter) happens to be a Latina or Ugandan or Greek or Peruvian or what-have-you, there would be no point to her speech at all, I think. Her own decision to accept the guides she claims, Resnick and Minnow (as shorthand for the theories they espouse) seems to me to put Sotomayor’s feet down where they are, if they are. Her posturing — laudable as it may be — that she “aspires” and “hopes” to do something other than she knows she can do, (she knows) namely, to be influenced in whatever mysterious ways she will be (she asserts) by her “…experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences…” doesn’t hold out any particular hope to “aspiration”, nor really, in the meat of the address, does she. Which, meh. But that, it seems to me, would provide her with more than enough philosophical justification to go wherever her – what’s-it – make up will, willy-nilly, put her.

  126. “Sdferr, I find that, overall, the speech gives proof to the characterization that she’s a bit of a muddled thinker and a poor writer.”

    And a poor judge (if you take the whole of US Circuit Court decisions, comparatively, hers have effectively been reversed upon review damn near every hour on the hour). That doesn’t even count the scorching dissenting opinions on her rulings coming from fairly liberal judges on her own fucking court!

    Hell, according to both accepted jurisprudence and court rules in ALL 50 (ah what the hell, 57) STATES, her prior racist statements alone would EXCLUDE her from being so much as a fucking juror in a criminal or civil case.

    But, then again I’m not a wise latina. What the fuck do I know?

    Go ahead and give her the big black robe.

  127. bh and sdferr – I find it most troubling that she is still using the same silly construct since as far back as 1994, and it does not appear to have appreciably evolved.

  128. Go ahead and give her the big black robe.

    As long as we don’t have to know anything about that garrulous strap-on underneath it (S’aright? S’aright!), eh Lamont?

  129. Sdferr. It would seem to me, that someone who is aspiring to be a Supreme Court Justice, would be emotionally neutral on issues of Race and Gender. I’m not a genius, but I completely understand the NEW AMERICA we are living in. RACE IS RELEVANT. SEX IS RELEVANT. They are relevant only so long as they PAY BACK those GROUPS that LIBERALS have decided to give SPECIAL RIGHTS and PRIVELEGES.
    It’s not a hard concept.
    Your Grandfather raped my Grandmother.
    Ergo.
    Someone’s else’s Grand daughter needs to get preference over someone else’s Grandson.
    Having a MINORITY CULTURAL SELF OPINION and CHIP on your shoulder is laudable!! She has a remarkable life-story!!
    Again HORSE SHIT.
    Either we as individuals are equal or WE ARE NOT.
    Her EMPATHY as to HER PEOPLE does not bode well for her ability to JUDGE IMPARTIALLY.

  130. Isn’t Latina woman redundant? Kind of like calling Sammy silly, or SemanKKKleo incomprehensible?

  131. “As long as we don’t have to know anything about that garrulous strap-on underneath it (S’aright? S’aright!), eh Lamont?”

    Aw man.

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.

  132. If you paraphrase what he’s saying, it boils down to, “I believe she’s a complete racist, but I’d be willing to look past that, if I thought she’d vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, which she might do based on catholic beliefs.”

    You got this right. That is what he said. You nailed the dentoation. But you don’t get Rush. The conotation is a low-flying object but still went right past your ears.

    So I second newrouter. So?

  133. I hear where you’re coming from, sdferr.

    When people speak about these things they often conflate the way things are and what is correct. Were she a better writer or better thinker, like a Cass Sunstein, she’d be giving us clearer markers as she switches gears. She doesn’t though.

    But, she does insert that language at the end. Lip service? Her true thoughts? I’m not sure.

  134. It appears that men and Latina’s of good will, will not agree to the obvious truths of life, I shall try once more.

    My last name starts with O’. Can I use my “richness of experience” and the “cultural experiences” of my career to decide issues without bias as is the requirement of Judges. (nevermind the Supreme Court)??

  135. gus, I read this: “there is no objective stance but only a series of perspectives – no neutrality, no escape from choice in judging,” as saying as explicitly as it is possible to say: there is no such thing as impartiality, impartiality is a phantom not to be found.

  136. And that (no impartiality) is not a function of a choice (I think she would say), it is just the way the world is. Or, put it another way, Tough Noogies.

  137. “Isn’t Latina woman redundant?”

    Exactly. Us knuckle dragging English speakers gave up gentrifying language around the time the King James Bible was published. But this wise “Latina woman” can’t manage to master the language of her own preferred racial victim group.

    For her sake, I hope the computers at One First Street have grammar check.

  138. Lip service? Her true thoughts?

    That, as I said to Rob (I think it was Rob) the other day, is where the rubber meets the road. To me, if she’s honest, (which, who knows?), she’ll stick by her guns and tough it out, explaining her position as best she can in the hearings. If, on the other hand, she’s a weasel merely, she’ll be backing away from her speech and hand waving and sputtering she didn’t mean to say it the way she said it and blah blah blah anything to get the job blah blah blah blah.

  139. I guess Latina decribes both Latin and Women in one Fell Swoop. But, what exactly does “Latina” mean?? And how and why is it relevant whether a “Judge” or even a “Supreme Court Justice” incorporates her RACE (Latin is not actually a race) and her Gender, into the “dialogue”. (dialogue is an Opie term).

    Why should I care whether a Supreme Court Justice is Latina or from Cleveland? In fact, Judge Sotomayor is from New York City. As is Donnie Trump.
    Tell me peeps.
    WHO. WHO CARED. About the SEX and FAMILIAL ORIGIN/RACE of the nominee for the SUPREME COURT.
    WHICH PERSON or PERSONS made their decision/decisions based on SEX and on “Race”??

  140. And that (no impartiality) is not a function of a choice (I think she would say), it is just the way the world is. Or, put it another way, Tough Noogies.

    Okay, that’s where you state clearly what she muddles through, sdferr. What I referred to as, “the way things are” above. So, as she moves on, we can not tell exactly the value she places on the aspiration towards objectivity. You and I might simply agree that it’s above mortals. She views it as a choice. So what can I really know about the value she places on striving towards the unachievable (us) or un/chosen (her).

  141. the value she places on the aspiration towards objectivity

    want to check the speech, there’s a place that addresses the question I think. brb

  142. Or, not, if you read it slightly differently. I find this speech confusing. I think that’s my final answer.

  143. This goes to the question a little, I think:

    While recognizing the potential effect of individual experiences on perception, Judge Cedarbaum nevertheless believes that judges must transcend their personal sympathies and prejudices and aspire to achieve a greater degree of fairness and integrity based on the reason of law. Although I agree with and attempt to work toward Judge Cedarbaum’s aspiration, I wonder whether achieving that goal is possible in all or even in most cases. And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.

    It’s perhaps unfair to read this as “embrace the suck” exactly, but it isn’t far from it, it seems to me.

  144. The alternate reading would be, “recognize the suck to then minimize it”. As in, with a different emphasis:

    Although I agree with and attempt to work toward Judge Cedarbaum’s aspiration, I wonder whether achieving that goal is possible in all or even in most cases. And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.

  145. Yeah, there’s lots of it that’s confusing and vague. This sentence killed me, like killed as in bludgeoned to death with it’s disjoint:

    Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench.

    Gack.

  146. 146: And to address the topic, what you’re inferring is that under a Sodermeyer bench, the automakers will be required to manufacture only Miatas and El Caminos.

  147. based on the reason of law

    The reason I read it the way I did was my belief that Sotomayor doesn’t recognize “the reason of law” as a something apart to which anyone can possibly refer. Seems to me her position, in contrast to Cedarbaum, is that there isn’t anything like that. All one has to refer to is oneself, pulling along in train all the “experiences and inherent physiological or cultural differences” and foo-far-ah that goes with it.

  148. Gack.

    Yep, agreed. Throughout the speech.

  149. No cynn, besides not knowing how she’d rule on cars, I don’t want to know what’s under a Sotomayor bench, as I mentioned to Lamont above.

  150. To be a complete cynic, I kinda like the idea of Obama wasting his gimme appointment on someone of this caliber.

    Wouldn’t vote to confirm her but I vastly prefer her to a Sunstein type who could convince others and write strong opinions.

  151. If psycho is right, that Obama really is just plain dumb and doesn’t know much of anything, this choice may be one of those pieces of evidence Obama built to create the theory (without a clue he was doing so, be it noted).

  152. Sotomayor isn’t “unqualified”. The liberal template is that THEY can be biased because THEY were somehow somewhere, sometime, wronged by someone.

    “”For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country””

    These words were spoken in my hometown (Milwaukee) by Michelle Obama during the campaign.
    She gave a speech in Madison, our EXTREMELY LIBERAL CAPITAL, 3 hours later in which she said. “”for the first time in my adult life, I am REALLY proud of my country””.
    Read Michelle Obama’s bio. She had no business at Princeton. She went to Princeton and she bitched about her treatment. She graduated from Princeton and her THESIS is fucking comical. Read it. I could have written it in 7th grade. Then after being maltreated (affirmative action) at Princeton, Michelle Obama continued on to Cambridge Mass. for Law School.

    It’s beyond absurd. These freaks bite the very hand that EVER fed them.

  153. I need to remind you fellow Conservatives of the liberal mantra vis a vis Dr.Tiller.
    “Tiller was acting within the law”.
    Or.
    “The rule of “law” needs to be observed and respected”.
    Liberals AND Islamists, use OUR RULES against us.

    Fast forward to PROP 8, in California.
    Do liberals RESPECT THE “RULE of LAW”?

    Then libs will further the insult by suggesting that “WE” are as bad as those we decry”.

    Opie uses that same dysfunctional logic.
    We TORTURED. (the FUCKING IDIOT gave the WHOLE WORLD RED MEAT)
    We should be above the fray!!!

    They cut off heads, we should have “dialogue” with them.

    Obama and his ilk are diseased, and they are spreading their disease to our schools, children and throughout out media and pop culture.

    Weakness is not strength.

  154. Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion.

    Shit, try being a white guy, girlfriend.

  155. Shit, try being the drunk, naked guy at the Christmas party, girlfriend.

  156. gus @ #112, I’m convinced Sotomayor is prochoice. I’m sure Rush is convinced of that, too. But what Rush was saying in that clip is that she doesn’t have a long track record of proabortion judicial activism (probably because she’s too focused on the race thing), so he was agitating liberals with the bogeyman of “how do you know she’s *not* a closet prolifer?” Like, the new Operation Chaos.

    Which apparently Sammy found so patently offensive that, um, we all needed to denounce Rush or something. That’s what I was trying to say.

  157. bh, a nudge for you, check it out.

  158. Seeing as how the dreaded Lakers are killing Orlando, I’m watching it now, sdferr. Thanks.

  159. You guys are cracking me up.

  160. JD, Dwight Howard in the NFL, offensive end with a decent quarterback. What, 75 catches, 15 touchdowns?

  161. I feel kinda like I jinxed Greinke the other day as he gave up 4 runs in 7inns and walked away without the win, though he did have 7 strikeouts and no walks to go with ‘em, his ERA jumped to 1.10. Bummer for him. He goes again tomorrow vs Toronto I think, and another pitcher who looks mortal at 2-2, 3.something.

  162. make that 4.15

  163. Dwight is a step slower than LeBron. Either one of them could be a TE or a defensive end, and ferocious one at that. There are many others in the NBA that are great aþhletes, but those 2 are the total packages.

    Greinke is still a stud.

  164. There are very few things in baseball as poetic as an Albert Pujols swing.

  165. Elvin Hayes, JD, in his day was such a one as these.

  166. “Although I agree with and attempt to work toward Judge Cedarbaum’s aspiration, I wonder whether achieving that goal is possible in all or even in most cases. And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”

    It is the striving that is crucial. No one is perfect in the conservative worldview, but all must strive toward it. Tossing that aside to embrace the relative, the subjective, would put her squarely in the camp of the progressives.

  167. Seeing his name makes me think of Bill Walton, who turned out to be one of the most popmpous self-absorbed announcers in the history of television. Oops, a little off track there …

  168. Listening to more of that lecture now, sdferr, you might have gotten a kick out of me when I was younger. For a few years I was in the enviable position of just messing around and writing internal papers about stuff like that. Then I wrote one on the relative values of things with an expiry date and I got pigeonholed, overly technical, and boring.

  169. What Sammy thinks he is doing is discovering and then destroying a “great leader” of the right-wing. He thinks there are such things and that his efforts will destroy not only said “leader” but us, the loyal sheep.

    A funny, funny guy that Sammy. Rush too, but he does it on purpose.

  170. It is the striving that is crucial.

    Very much how I see it, Geoff. Being perfectly objective might be beyond us. Being 75% objective definitely seems to be better than 50% objective though.

  171. Damn Lakers.

  172. What was the shape of the game, bh? Poor shooting by t’Magic? Or superior defense by t’Lakers? or otherwise?

  173. Oof, 29.9% from the field by Orl’s not good.

  174. Thank you also sdferr for that link. I’m downloading it to burn to DVD so I can watch it when I have time.

  175. Both, and home court for the Lakers.

    Kobe went for 40 and Turk and Howard only scored around a dozen each. 100-75, was never really a game after the first quarter.

  176. guinsPen should be happy tonight.

  177. And you, contrarywise, sort of sad geoffb.

  178. Sdferr – it would depend if you are a Lakers or Mgic fan, as to how that question would be answered. As I am a fan of neither, I would answer that it was a deadly combination of Kobe and the Magic missing lots of open shots.

  179. Yes and no. I’m too old to get worked up over sports like I did. I’d like the Wings to win in 7 so that everything gets on the line. See who can pull it out in the clutch.

  180. Bill Walton, who turned out to be one of the most popmpous self-absorbed announcers in the history of television.

    Heh, agreed and I still miss him.

  181. I’m wondering how a weirdo city like Orlando managed to snag such a good basketball team. And D Howard is a beast what could play receiver with LeBron at tight end.

  182. Our eternal thanks to the men of VT-8, far better men than we.

  183. All of ‘em.

  184. There are very few things in baseball as poetic as an Albert Pujols swing.

    I disagree.

  185. I disagree too. I find talk of Roger Clemens’ steroids induced ass wounds to be pretty poetic. In a justicey kinda way tho’.

  186. Man, I wish liberals had that same super power as Rush. Say something totally egregious and then all his fawning cockslobbers say, “so?” or “Oh, he didn’t mean anything he said. He’s a disengenious mastermind.”. That’s such an extrordinarilly brilliant form of denial.

  187. JD, what do you do for a living that you can just hit the refresh button all day long hoping for something to meagerly chime on to?

  188. Don’t you mean “chime in on”?

  189. Obama is the Panderer of the United States. He is so full of crap and the Germans eat it up like it’s wienerschnitzel.

    BTW, I swore off swearing. Hdcp going down, blood pressure going up.

  190. Sammah!

    Sammah?

    I hate to break this to you, kid, but you’re not as brilliant as you think you are.

  191. what do you do for a living that you can just hit the refresh button all day long hoping for something to meagerly chime on to?

    Congresscritter.

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  193. Even though, for me, Rush has lost his edge over the past couple of years, I still listen to him because of the aforementioned gem. To say something for the express purpose of getting some ‘tard like SAMMY all worked up, and then to have him fall for it, still brings me an infantile pleasure; even after all these years of him doing it.

    And for Sammy: don’t you think it’s even more outrageous that Rush wanted Hillary to win? I mean, my god, I was so upset at him for that.

  194. If anything, I think Rush has gotten better- he thrives on being the opposition and he recognizes his role in saying things that should be said though won’t be said by spineless conservative politicians.

  195. Guys, just ignore Sammy. This latest line of BS shows he’s a mental midget, spouting talking points and drawing on whatever he’s been told to be pissed about by the Sorosphere.

    There’s no point arguing with him because there’s nothing there.

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  197. “There’s no point arguing with him because there’s nothing there”.

    Here’s what Pravda has to say about Sammy and all his comrades.

    “First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blind the foolish.”

    It is amazing that Pravda has more insight into zerobots that the US Government owned media.

  198. It’s pathetic, but typical, that the “progressives” would declare Dealergate a closed book BECAUSE the powers-that-be refuse to release the selection criteria/formulae so that true accounting can take place. NO ONE HAS YET TO RELEASE THE CRITERIA.

    Consider the two sides in this debate: one side wants to know by what criteria billions of taxpayer dollars were and are going to be spent on matters that effect private property, jobs, communities. This side is asking questions. Yes, some on this side have thrown around blind accusations and theories, but they are concerned and rightfully angry that the government is interfering in private markets without disclosing its actions, which invites abuse of gov’t authority without any real recourse. This side did not have access to the important data, so they used what they had to call attention to the matter, running imperfect stat analysis, which showed disturbing patterns but could was always very unlikely to prove anything (stats rarely do). For example, for all we know, Democrat dealers might tend to be worse at running dealerships than are Republican dealers, in which case the difficulty in indicating patterns without the truly important data is that much harder (i.e. parity would actually be evidence of decisionmaking that included criteria based on factors other than business maximization).

    The other side uses the lack of transperancy to claim that its opponent can’t prove anything, so its opponent should just STFU and stop asking questions. Many of the people on this side are the same folks who screamed about alleged Republican cronyism toward Halliburton. They also all of a sudden are ready to protect business prerogatives and non-national-security-related government secrecy above all else.

    Hey, we’ll be happy to set aside all the theories – just give us the criteria and data and allow for an audit of the decisionmaking process. Remember, y’all are big on transperancy and oversight, right? (or was that more projection)?

  199. Shorter Rush: Sotomayor might be a *pro-life* bigot.

    Shorter Sammy: He said “bigot”!

    Obama said *he* didn’t ask about Sotamayor’s pro-life/pro-choice stance. Because he has people that will TELL HIM without Bama asking it specifically.

    Not that he f*ckin cares, anyway.

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