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Hoover Me This, Asswipe [Dan Collins]

What could it mean?

Peter Wehner (I hope he doesn’t mind my stealing his entire post) at Commentary has up a revealing piece on Fairness Doctrine fan Bill Moyers:

In today’s Washington Post, we learn that “J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI found itself quietly consumed with the vexing question of whether [Lyndon Johnson aide Jack] Valenti was gay.” According to the article, “the files, obtained by The Washington Post under the federal Freedom of Information Act, provide further insight into the conduct of the FBI under Hoover, for whom damaging personal information on the powerful was a useful tool in his interactions with presidents from Franklin D. Roosevelt to Richard M. Nixon.”

What I found particularly interesting was this paragraph:

Even Bill Moyers, a White House aide now best known as a liberal television commentator, is described in the records as seeking information on the sexual preferences of White House staff members. Moyers said by e-mail yesterday that his memory is unclear after so many years but that he may have been simply looking for details of allegations first brought to the president by Hoover.

And this:

Seven days later, DeLoach [Hoover lieutenant Cartha D. DeLoach] pressed Johnson again and he relented. In the same conversation, a memo shows, they discussed a request from Moyers, then a special assistant to Johnson, that the FBI investigate two other administration figures who were “suspected as having homosexual tendencies.”

Well, now. For the unaware, Mr. Moyers was a key figure in the creation of the notorious “Daisy” ad, dubbed by the New York Times at the time as “probably the most controversial TV commercial of all time.” The ad featured a young girl plucking daisy petals as a countdown leads to her annihilation in a nuclear blast. The message was clear: this was the fate of the earth if Barry Goldwater were elected. Beyond that is the fact that, as Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard showed in a 2003 article, Bill Moyers, during his career at PBS,

flagrantly indulges in the same conflicts of interest, Washington logrolling, and mutual back-scratching that he finds deeply objectionable in, well, everyone other than Bill Moyers. There were piles of documents–from IRS filings to internal records from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting–that supported this conclusion.

Moyers is among the most sanctimonious individuals on television (quite a feat, given the competition). He presents himself as a champion of good government, an intrepid voice for integrity and honesty, ever on the lookout for people who would degrade our public discourse or act in a dishonorable manner. That’s why this revelation — Moyers seeking information on the sexual preferences of White House staff members — is particularly notable. And I suspect his excuse, that his “memory is unclear after so many years,” probably wouldn’t persuade Moyers himself, if the person in question were, say, a conservative.

The persona of Bill Moyers is very much at odds with his conduct over the years. This latest revelation deserves to be explored more fully.

I don’t care that he was anti-Hoover. He’s still an egregious sucker . . . of cock.

50 Replies to “Hoover Me This, Asswipe [Dan Collins]”

  1. Bob Reed says:

    So Moyers utilized the FBI to gain an advantage over White House collegues and internal political opponents..?

    Hmmmmmmmmmm…

    Sounds a bit like Nixon’s use of Liddy to me; at least analogously…

    No wonder Moyers memory is unclear

    He might meet his own personal Waterloo Watergate otherwise…

  2. Rob Crawford says:

    Ya know, I think Hoover’s been unfairly demonized. I’ll grant that he was likely drunk on his own power, and that he certainly violated peoples’ rights.

    But…

    This is the guy who took on, and beat the Klan.

  3. TheGeezer says:

    I can’t stand to listen to Moyers. Like most contemporary liberals, he’s supremely duplicitous and hypocritical, rhetorically crucifying those who do exactly as he does, but who don’t vote as he does.

  4. DarthRove says:

    And all this time I thought “Bill Moyers” was television jargon for “one full hour of sanctimonious douchebaggery and juvenile twaddle masquerading as intellectually stimulation”.

  5. happyfeet says:

    I like the “Even Bill Moyers” part, as if he weren’t a not so closeted PBS fascist deeply antagonistic to individual liberty.

  6. SarahW says:

    What Bill Moyers is, is an old man with that peculiar crack-pottery, paranoia and liack of insight that comes with aa stiffened and sclerotic brain – and lot of projection.

    He’s a bag of crazy and sawdust.

  7. Sticky B says:

    Everybody (at least conservative everybodies) acknowledges that we’re still suffering the tremors of the late 70’s earthquake aka the Carter administration. But the remnants of LBJ’s grandiose vision are equally damaging. Who was the last demo prez who didn’t fuck up more than he fixed?

  8. cranky-d says:

    He’s the kind of guy who would set his political RV on cruise and then step away from the wheel, assuming that the cruise control also does the steering.

  9. Barry Obamuh says:

    Didn’t Moyers also dig up dirt on MLK Jr.? What a compassionate lib.

  10. happyfeet says:

    Someone should leave a note on Moyers’ chair at PBS what says everybody hates you cause you are a stupid fascist. But it’d have to be someone what was just visiting cause everyone at PBS has the exact same views about everything. It’s a hiring requirement. oh. I guess it wouldn’t matter which chair you put the note on really. Maybe this isn’t the best plan really.

  11. Mr. White says:

    He’s still an egregious sucker . . . of cock.

    I wonder. What constitutes an egregious cocksucker, as opposed to the other kind? Is Larry Craig (R-Idaho) available for clarification?

  12. JD says:

    Mr. White is a mendoucheous douchenozzle. He is. I know.

  13. Dan Collins says:

    What make it egregious is that he’s so closeted.

  14. maggie katzen says:

    Is Larry Craig (R-Idaho) available for clarification?

    Why bother him, when we’ve got you here? don’t be coy about your knowledge on the subject.

  15. Mikey NTH says:

    Mr. White, you could just ask Rep. Frank. I’m sure he would know the answer to your question.

  16. kelly says:

    Not that it matters to knobs like Mr. White (nor am I defending the former Senator), but even someone with a cursory knowledge of the Minnesota airport sting such as I (being a resident of his state) would know that no sexual contact was actually made. Unless you count a “wide stance” and waving your hand under the stall as such.

    As others have pointed out, Rep. Frank knows a least as much about sucking bones as Mr. White.

  17. maggie katzen says:

    I guess it might if you’re into kittehs. which is sad. poor kittehs. what do you use? catnip?

  18. LTC John says:

    I hear there is a subject matter expert on the payroll of the Atlantic

  19. happyfeet says:

    This is true. Bill Moyers is also very particular about size.

  20. JD says:

    Clearly Mr White is begging for a mushroom bruise.

  21. kelly says:

    Yep. And the fact that such expert is far more conservtive than former Sen. Craig is just icing on the cake.

    Oops, tell JD that my linguistic use of “icing on the cake” is strictly conformed to colloquial texts and nothing to do with any alternative to be found on urbandictionary. thnx

  22. JD says:

    Kelly – Go look that one up. OMFG

  23. libocrat says:

    I heard this story about Moyers months ago. He’s scum. But what I’ve come to know as a former Democrat, is that almost ALL of today’s democrats…..A.K.A..LIBTARDS, are dishonest hacks. Hypocrisy is too nice a term, because these Democrat/Libtards are hypocrites ON PURPOSE.

  24. cranky-d says:

    JD, urban dictionary is full of crap that people have made up, and a truckload of it is stuff that has never happened. Donkey punch? Pink sock? Please.

  25. libocrat says:

    Apparently Mrs. White loves homo’s unless they are Republican.
    Then she feels it’s her duty to destroy them and mock their wide stance and jump to the cock sucking conclusion so as to win a LIBTARD argument. Do I understand Mrs. White and her libtard illogic. Yes, I understand the libtard of the species and it’s not a pretty sight.

  26. libocrat says:

    Mrs. White lives in the closet. Don’t you Mrs. White!?

  27. B Moe says:

    Clearly Mr White is begging for a mushroom bruise.

    No doubt in honor of your long absent host.

    Boy howdy! Nothing gets past this one!

  28. JD says:

    Mr (allegedly) White – Why did you select such an overtly racist patriarchal name?

  29. libocrat says:

    Mrs. White’s greed runs a world in need!!!

  30. Mikey NTH says:

    Amazing how certain trolls go silent and then, suddenly, another appears.
    Just as operationally obtuse the others.

  31. Sdferr says:

    It is odd Mikey. Almost has the flavor of a baton being passed in a relay race.

  32. happyfeet says:

    Bill Moyers I think can best speak to the baton flavor issue.

  33. Sdferr says:

    I beet red, hf. Good one.

  34. Rob Crawford says:

    It is odd Mikey. Almost has the flavor of a baton being passed in a relay race.

    Shift change? Duty rotation?

  35. JD says:

    They just change positions. They switch from being the top to being the bottom. Apparently, it is hard to type while on top.

  36. Mikey NTH says:

    Shift change? Duty rotation?

    Mandatory outrage? Mechanical umbrage?

  37. alppuccino says:

    Who ordered the cinnamon roll?

  38. kelly says:

    Kelly – Go look that one up. OMFG

    I can’t. I’m skeered. Ask al to go.

  39. kelly says:

    Maybe Darnell can tell us?

  40. JD says:

    Icing on the Cake

    The final hit that sends you over the edge from pretty high to wrecked.

  41. JD says:

    Hey, Darnell, could you give me a parsnip?

  42. kelly says:

    “The final hit that sends you over the edge from pretty high to wrecked.”

    That’s it?? What a relief.

  43. bigbooner says:

    #

    Comment by DarthRove on 2/19 @ 11:32 am #

    And all this time I thought “Bill Moyers” was television jargon for “one full hour of sanctimonious douchebaggery and juvenile twaddle masquerading as intellectually stimulation”.

    Substitute Bill Ayres. Rinse and repeat.

  44. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Valenti was an evil fascist fuck in his own right, but that shouldn’t have happened to him even so.

  45. Cave Bear says:

    And Hoover was not a crossdresser. Turns out that whole story was made up by the KGB, and the douchenozzles in the LSM swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

    Of course, it also turns out that Joe McCarthy and the HUAC boys were correct about the Communist threat, as the now-released KGB files and Venona intercepts showed.

    And yes, the very same COINTELPRO program that Hoover used on MLK, SNCC, SDS and the rest of the communist front groups operating back then, did a major number on the KKK, basically destroying it as an organization.

    Facts are wonderful things, are they not?

  46. Dan Collins says:

    Don’t tell his excitableness. I wouldn’t link, but he was claiming J. Edgar for the gays, and I didn’t want to stop him. He figured the salient point of the article was that the WaPo wouldn’t just come out and say that Hoover was gayer than a bevy of Greenwald’s cabaneros at Carnival.

  47. Calvin Dodge says:

    IIRC, Moyers also investigated a close aide of Barry Goldwater, checking for gayness as a way to harm Goldwater’s campaign.

  48. Joe says:

    Joseph Campbell told Moyers that in the repeating hero cycle Moyer was the universal cock sucker and would be doomed to repeat that role for all eternity. Bill Moyers really did not have a problem with that.

  49. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Joseph Campbell told Moyers that in the repeating hero cycle Moyer was the universal cock sucker

    Hah!

    I enjoyed that series, but would’ve enjoyed it a lot more without the inane Moyers questions.

  50. Dan Collins says:

    Have someone else’s bliss followed, is what I took away.

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