It can’t surprise anyone, really, but according to this RedState piece, the Fairness Doctrine is rearing its head again, insisting on “diversity” of messages on the airwaves, and now, it would appear, online as well. The new news is that the administration may be farming out the task of what constitutes acceptable diversity to . . . MoveOn.org, which has been compiling a large database of unacceptable outlets.
Strangely enough, PBS and NPR are nowhere mentioned. I’m sure that that’s an oversight, as everyone’s aware that they embody the very definition of objectivity and non-partisanship that MoveOn.org finds congenial. The problem with defining diversity of perspective is, of course, that someone must do the defining. Fortunately for the Obama administration, it seems that there are a multiplicity of Soros-backed organizations that are more than happy to be co-opted for exactly such purposes.
This is campus “hate-speech” prohibition applied to the nation as a whole. Its sole purpose is to skew the playing field in the direction of whatever beliefs it supports, and to punish those who would take exception to them. Soon enough, you may find yourself relegated to a little free speech zone ghetto, so enjoy your privilege (not right) to express yourself as you will while you’ve got it.
Via Carin in comments to the previous post, comes this related article.
UPDATE:
Our federally-funded propaganda broadcaster is dispensing with any pretense of nonpartisanship in a new documentary. Dan Riehl discovered via an Irish (!) source that only members of one party are interviewed on the reasons for the housing collapse:
PBS’ Frontline is airing a documentary on the causes of the economic collapse Tuesday: Inside the Meltdown. Irish media points out one possible weakness with the work. Thank God PBS isn’t biased.Mr. Dodd and Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts, are the only members of Congress interviewed in the piece, which is a weakness. Many voters hold Republicans and Democrats equally responsible for oversight failures. “Frontline” holds these politicians up as reliable, unbiased witnesses, but some viewers may feel they don’t deserve that trust.Update: And the Dems want a Fairness Doctrine? Add that to this. I wonder if they got their pay-off? If Republicans had any $%^^&, they would have shut PBS down while in power. And if Republicans were invited to be involved and said no, we should know who and why.
Re: Chris Dodd; turns out Dodd, who received no special deal on his rates, has a book on the financial meltdown coming out.
From now on, I’m referring to this shitheel as FOAD (Friend of Angelo, Dodd)
It’s funny because the article mentions one of the issues is search bias … and the only bias I am aware of in regards to search engines is LIBEARAL bias.
I’m going to start swearing in a bit, so perhaps I should just “say it.”
Do you think the SNL skit about Rush vs. Sean was an accident.
There are no accidents.
The skit sucked by the way.
Like I said, it’s the gibbering fascist peeping out from behind the mask.
As I said yesterday in what I will politely refer to as a “discussion” with thor, we’re headed toward a Peronist state here. We’ll be lucky if the Democrats just wreck the economy and put the media under their jackboot.
Rush will end up single-handedly saving XM/Sirius and killing AM Radio all in one fell swoop.
I expect to get my invitation to Fairness Camp soon.
Maybe there will be a Fairness Camp right here in Vermont, with Counselors Leahy and Sanders. It would be a good place for one.
You’ll finally get over that bad case of false consciousness, Dan.
Happy Happy Joy Joy!
Diversity? How will that be defined? Currently, the Leftist blogs hold the upper hand, traffic-wise, with HuffPo, Moveon and Kos defining that movement and even attending press conferences, holding conventions attended by politicians, and helping to write legislation. Not to mention getting appointed to key spots within campaigns.
And usually, ‘diversity’ is used as a cudgel to include token racial categories, but the unique problem/feature of the web is that nobody knows your race so they’re forced to debate your ideas on their merits rather than fall back on [ahem] ‘social constructs’ to judge your opinion.
Maybe you should reveal that you’re a black man, Dan.
Black Irish. Just like the dead guy from Thin Lizzy.
We have the Fairness doctrine firmly in place here in the UK. It’s called the BBC.
Thus when a Met Office scientist cautioned about ‘apocalyptic’ claims weakening the case for AGW the Beeb barely mentioned it, then for ‘balance’ they puplicised apocalyptic AGW claims all day yesterday, twice an hour, every hour on all their multitude of ‘news’ programs.
Similarly, when Lord Ahmed threatened to march ten thousand angry muslims to the Houses of Parliament to protest the arrival of Geert Wilders, it barely got a mention. Though, to be fair, the banning of Wilders barely got a mention either.
Oh, and as for the internet, well it’s a perfect forum for free speech. (Provided you don’t get all outlawy about it.) And you better be careful taking photographs
This is so cool!
Consensus is the new diversity.
Jeff and Dan, when they haul you both away for ‘crimes against consensual diversity’ can I have all your stuff?
What I mean is that you won’t be needing it where you are going; of that I’m quite sure.
While I’m on the subject, are your wives cute?
I might want them too, maybe as some kind of a package deal.
I’ll take good care of them, and as long as they are still willing to cook and clean, I’ll allow them to live out their lives as they wish, more or less.
Oh yeah, and your liquor cabinets, what kind of state are they in?
via Hot Air, Camille Paglia rips Democrats a new asshole over the so-called “fairness doctrine”:
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=279483
Put your faith in Joe The Plumber.
NOB #14, the one thing that distresses me about that clip is where Paglia gasps, “I don’t get it.” That’s because she’s a true liberal, whereas people like Waxman, Hinchey and most of the Democratic caucus are not. That contingent, a vast majority of the party, are collectivists. There’s a matter of degree, with the best being benign paternalists with a wooly idea of doing good using the clumsy claws of the State. On the other end are the totalitarians, who harbor no illusions about what they are doing.
Paglia needs to look at the evidence and speak the truth.
I’m thinking copies of Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” should be flying off the shelves right about now.
I’m thinking copies of Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism†should be flying off the shelves right about now.
And, one would hope, not into Federal Fairness Disposal Bins.
My bolding.
Not that the “alternative views” are available but making sure they “are read”, “are heard”, “are seen”.
Well, she tore progressivism in half.
VAHighlander: I’m thinking copies of Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism†should be flying off the shelves right about now.
Jeffersonian: And, one would hope, not into Federal Fairness Disposal Bins.
Well, you have to find it carefully hidden behind “The Audacity of Hope” in Barnes & Noble first.
Not that the “alternative views†are available but making sure they “are readâ€Â, “are heardâ€Â, “are seenâ€Â.
Why am I suddenly thinking of “A Clockwork Orange?”
Why am I suddenly thinking of “A Clockwork Orange?â€Â
Exactly what I was about to say, Jeffersonian. I’m glad I refreshed before posting.
I solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all its enemies, foreign and domestic.
Because the lunatics are running the asylum, Jefferson.
They will be relaced with copies of my little blue book and be required reading for all high school children.
http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Obama-Editors-History-Company/dp/0978736842
Also from the article.
Our very own, poll driven, completely scripted, evening News-reader, President. Flak catcher-in-Chief. So who is controlling this robot we see?
@12 Keven B, I carry this printout with me. As long as I’m in a public place, I can (and will!) take a picture of anything I want to. Even, as did the photographer in your link, nice flowers and bees.
Of course, that could change tomorrO!w..
I happened to catch the movie Ghostbusters for the 100th time the other weekend and I thought the world was supposed to end when you cross the streams? Parody and reality are coming dangerously close to crossing eachother that is for sure.
There is a joke here involving a 50 ft gigantic marshmellow Obama but I just can’t figure it out.
I thought that was really creepy too. geoff. I don’t understand why the greatest speaker EVA would need it, though.
Yes. Imagine the retard jokes that would be flying if Bush had done something like that.
“He needs a picture to tell him who to call on next! Hahaha!”
Are Academics exempt from these ‘fairness’ restrictions?
Especially those who’ve completed the courses proffered by the William Ayers sorts.
For the children!
It would make it easier for the comms guys to pass along information without being obvious about it,†says the adviser.
oh my… and recall all the aggitated lefties who absolutely insisted that BOOOSH had an earpiece and was fed answers by Evil Rove and Co during debates.
“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”.
By all means, get Obama his training wheels model podium for public speaking……
I can only listen to so many “uh uh uh”s before I have to mute the audio.
George Soros was having the most peculiar morning. Not only had he awakened to find that he was a black man, which was certainly startling enough in its own right, it was also becoming quickly apparent that he was the President of the United States of America, a country of which, were the truth to be known, he had never been particularly fond.
We’re at war over the definition of America and muniments of our freedom. We’ve been at war for some time. And we’re losing. Thanks to the completely pathetic George Bush, with help from the completely pathetic John McCain and the cooperation of the nearly completely pathetic Republican congressional ranks and elite conservative “opinion leaders,” some of us are ony just waking up to these facts. So who will be our leader in this war? Where is the lionheart? I’m tired of sarcasm and irony. I want battle.
So much for damnable American Cowboy Consumerism and Capitalism.
Europe is probably far worse off.
“Failure to save East Europe will lead to worldwide meltdown:
The unfolding debt drama in Russia, Ukraine, and the EU states of Eastern Europe has reached acute danger point.
Austria’s finance minister Josef Pröll made frantic efforts last week to put together a €150bn rescue for the ex-Soviet bloc. Well he might. His banks have lent €230bn to the region, equal to 70pc of Austria’s GDP.
“A failure rate of 10pc would lead to the collapse of the Austrian financial sector,” reported Der Standard in Vienna. Unfortunately, that is about to happen. ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/4623525/Failure-to-save-East-Europe-will-lead-to-worldwide-meltdown.html
George Bush isn’t pathetic. He’s the good old days already and in record time too. Love love love to have him back in our little White House, I would.
Comment by serr8d on 2/16 @ 10:39 am
I’m still reading that article… oh. my.
IMHO, if the “Fairness Doctrine” is to be enforced because the public “owns” the airwaves (and if the stimulus has lots of pork for the “expansion” of teh intarwebs then it looks like a
Obama“public ownership” excuse for the FD there, too … then PUBLIC universities (any that take any tax money including fed-subsidized student loans) should also fall under the FD…and the professor class should be strictly balancedcuz of the FAIRNESS.
“Comment by VAHighlander on 2/16 @ 10:12 am #
I’m thinking copies of Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism†should be flying off the shelves right about now.”
I’m re-reading it right now.
It’s frightening.
Only Democrats would see the equivalency in Freedom of Speech and Fairness of Speech. After all, those rural hick clingy hunters are incapable of making enlightened choices as to their listening material .. or their opinions for that matter.
Aren’t they?
I’m putting out a challenge for someone, anyone, to cite anything, written or verbal, as put forth by The Founders that supports this abomination.
Originalism: It’s what’s for dinner!
Jeebus H. Christ.
“Does one person’s library contain books that present one side of an issue, but lack books presenting the other side?”
“Does your mind contain thoughts that focus on one side of an issue, but not the other?”
So political speech is finally reigned in and made to serve the governing class… at least we’re still free to beg for money (unless there’s a major Democrat event in town) and strip.
YOU WILL SUBMIT TO THE FAIRNESS!!!
“Does one heavily trafficked Internet site present one side of an issue and not link to sites that present alternative views?”
I’d really like one of the trolls to explain how this ISN’T the next leap on the road to ThoughtCrime.
Nah. I’d rather someone with some brains and honesty explain it.
Darnit! I miss W already, too!
He was like a good trusty sheepdog, eager to keep us safe. As dogs go, Obama’s been chasing my chickens, while Bush protected them.
Anyone notice the absence of trolls here? Meya (oceancat on my blog) poked her head in for a second, and then scampered away.
IMHO, if the “Fairness Doctrine†is to be enforced because the public “owns†the airwaves (and if the stimulus has lots of pork for the “expansion†of teh intarwebs then it looks like a Obama “public ownership†excuse for the FD there, too … then PUBLIC universities (any that take any tax money including fed-subsidized student loans) should also fall under the FD…and the professor class should be strictly balanced.
Seems reasonable to me, Darleen. I’d go even further and say that any school accepting federal funds would be subject, no? Public money, public control, right, Kommissar Schumer?
In a totally unrealted followup to a thread from a few days ago:
You must go see “Coraline” in theaters. It is a true spectacle of a film. Imagine Neil Gaiman meets The Nightmare Before Christmas (cause it’s directed by the same guy).
It’s genuinely touching, eerie, freaky, and fun. The visuals are incredible and are like no other stop-motion film I’ve ever seen.
(Warning: it also contains a few strong doses of pure Nightmare Fuel, so perhaps mind the kids under 7.)
Sorry, Happyfeet, he was pathetic. He utterly failed to identify and alert Americans to the threat of leftism, which was no longer merely incubating (as it was under his father) but in fact raging around him. He didn’t even try. So this is his legacy. He has no excuses.
Who will be the first to tread in here? Snippy? thor? Meya?
They’re all very busy folks, though. I’m sure they’ll be along shortly to address this. As soon as someone tells them how to defend it. I’m guessing it will run along the lines of Rush is oxycotin abusing fatso.
So … Bush is EVERN responsibly for the leftists now?
You know, Bush was still a drunken frat boy when Alinsky wrote his rules for radicals.
Techie, my kids have been BEGGING me to take them to see it.
“The skit sucked by the way.”
Who would have expected “allahpundit” to find that skit humorless?
You must go see “Coraline†in theaters.
I agree. And it’s worth the extra trip/expense if you’re within striking distance of a theater that’s showing it in 3D.
What is balanced will depend on where the center is considered to be located. There is where the fulcrum will be placed.
I expect the center will be somewhere between Pelosi, Reid and Obama. DU will be closer to the center from the left side than say McCain is from the right.
Definitions, it’s what’s for dinner.
My typing-foo is weak today. I blame Bush.
Hey, meya! How about tackling my challenge question above:
Also, feel free to deal with the idea of Freedom and Fairness being equivalent in some way. Also Techie’s question in #43 about ThoughtCrime.
Come one, oceancat, step up to the plate!
No substantive evidence was presented at all. No even circumstantial evidence was presented, either. It’s all circumstantial. Now, if they’d pointed to a bill in committee, or something else even remotely threatening, I’d tend to give it a look.
I completely believe that various members of congress might want to do something to get Rush Limbaugh off the air, but so far, I don’t think they’ve come up with anything even a close to workable.
Oh, no Meya’s got a point. You know, Allah may have allowed bias to color his criticism of the SNL skit.
Unlike the non-partisan SNL writers.
BTW I actually think Rush is a big, fat idiot, or possibly an evilly mendacious liar. But I don’t think it should be the mission of Congress to shut him up, and I think it would do possibly irreparable harm to this country if they succeeded in doing so.
Okay, slart, but I’m just saying a guy who wants the Census people to report to the White House first, a person who installs an oppo research person in the offices of the White House Counsel, it’s not at all a stretch. And there are congresscritters who have been making these noises, too.
” I’m putting out a challenge for someone, anyone, to cite anything, written or verbal, as put forth by The Founders that supports this abomination.”
I’d say the alien and sedition acts went much further than anything the american spectator is trying to drum up. Overall I’m not too concerned. Any content restrictions will be very limited thanks to the COPA/CIPA litigation, meanwhile we’ll still get other FCC work done if everyone is distracted by this sort of stuff. Things like neutrality and preserving the end-to-end nature of the internet. The main content problem will be like we have with the library filters and the Solomon amendment: government money can come with conditions. That should be fought — we can start with the libraries. However other openness will still get through, and still be good.
Slart’s got a point — just because the FCC’s working to see how it can regulate online content isn’t a reason to be upset. Let’s just wait until there’s a bill in Congress…
Oh, wait. If the FCC can stretch the regulatory power ceded to them by Congress far enough, they don’t need to go to Congress.
And even if they can’t, hell, we have a Congress that can piss away a billion dollars without oversight, input from the public, or even letting the public see what they’re doing.
There have been congresscritters, too, that have made noises about banning mind control rays from space. And chemtrails!
Doesn’t mean that said congresscritters will wind up having a prayer of any of that ending up in actual law, though.
You must go see “Coraline†in theaters.
No, you don’t must I don’t think. NBC Universal is not your friend. They hate you, really.
The American Spectator’s not trying to drum anything up. Obama’s FCC chair is. Democrat Congressthings are.
Slart: What you say is true but the fact that there is even the whiff of this Constitutional ogre on the lips of prominent Democrats (see Clinton, Bubba) requires banks of bright spotlights to be shined on it’s warty, pestilent visage.
If we go overboard it’s only because we have cast a wary eye to Canada towards the ThoughtCrime commission and see the creeping “hate speech” concepts on our college campuses.
Correcting myself. Good lord, the number hasn’t sunk in yet.
Oh, you must be right. Let’s all just stop being vigilant and not worry about government imposing on our liberties. It’ll never happen!
Any content restrictions will be very limited thanks to the COPA/CIPA litigation,
We don’t trust assurances from either you or your lying Soros puppet Presentdent any more, meya.
Sorry.
That’d be something to see, wouldn’t it? I mean, if it happened.
Slart, you would figure that we’d know by now who it was that turned off the match verification system at the O!s campaign website by now, wouldn’t you? In a democracy, I mean?
Sure, if we could only catch a glimpse. Which, so far, we haven’t.
Given that Obama’s administration is all about transparency, we surely must be able to.
No, he’s not responsible for leftists. He’s responsible for ignoring them, which is the only way to lose to them. Ronald Reagan wasn’t responsible for communists in SAG, but he took responsibility for engaging them and defeating them. It is not hard to defeat leftists. It is surprisingly easy, really. But you have to make the effort. It’s called being a leader.
What’s “match verification”, Dan? I’m horribly behind in my reading.
“The American Spectator’s not trying to drum anything up. Obama’s FCC chair is. Democrat Congressthings are.”
That article talked about things Copps was doing. He’s a Bush appointee on his way out and not ‘Obama’s FCC chair.’
“Oh, wait. If the FCC can stretch the regulatory power ceded to them by Congress far enough, they don’t need to go to Congress.”
They tried to reach into your computer and other devices to enforce the content industry’s “Broadcast flag” but the courts struck them down.
“We don’t trust assurances from either you or your lying Soros puppet Presentdent any more, meya.”
You can look it up yourself. Don’t take my word for it. I’m not like redstate or the american spectator.
The people who did this and this would never dream of abusing the power of the FCC. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Our post-partisan messiah has so far shown himself to be hyperpartisan. Some of this stuff is trial ballooning. I want it shot down asap.
They can always find a way to make it “for the children”.
From a link at Ace of Spades.
Also there is this there.
You can look it up yourself.
Look what up myself, you stupid bint?
You’ve made a claim that Obama won’t abuse power to try to shut down dissenting opinion.
Evidence says otherwise. See #77.
Someone beat me to the punch, mentinging Jonah Goldberg’s LIBERAL FASCISM, which I started reading over the weekend. If nothing else, it’s valuable as a compendium of damning quotes from some of our most “enlightened” Staat-shtuppers. However, it needs to be updated in light of Obama’s election. When Goldberg wrote it he apparently thought, as many did, that Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic candidate for president, and there’s a whole chapter devoted to Clintonista statism; while Obama gets only two mentions. Goldberg should issue a new, updated, “Yes, We Can!” edition, which the publishers could advertise with the slogan: “Now. More Than Ever.”
Wouldn’t want that underground economy aided and abetted by the tubes.
meya, you’re silly. Baracky is our mostest full of shit president ever and he’s a lot fascist too. Think Hugo Chavez with jug ears and a stammer. You’re just not paying attention.
Better skin and jumpshot, though.
“Look what up myself, you stupid bint?”
What the COPA and CIPA litigation left us with in terms of supreme court online free speech doctrine.
Slart #73: I’ll just keep the lights on … just in case.
meya: This was, after all, a law before in the eighties. This targets all speech, broadcast or internet, under the guise of establishing “balance” in POV’s. It is creaky and utterly unconstitutional, moving far beyond the government’s purvey with regards to “regulating” public airways. There is no government money involved except where PBS and NPR are concerned and we all know what direction that’s going to take.
Alien and Sedition, rightly or wrongly, was specifically targeted to specific speech during wartime. We have plenty of instances of constitutional rights limited or outright trashed under wartime conditions (the Prez’s hero, Abe Lincoln, set the standard for these.) I would argue that The Fairness Doctrine is, in many ways, worse than A & S in that it seeks to have the government establish a standard for all broadcast or internet speech.
Slart’s right: It’s early in the game but this is one of those foundational issues that should not be allowed to have any growth medium. Break the petri dishes as they are filled.
He’s destroying our economy on purpose, Dan, just so him and his skeezey woman can build an oppressive socialist state. He’s gonna cause so many people so so so much pain. It’s sort of distressing if you think about it.
It wasn’t a law, as in a bill passed by Congress and signed by the President. It was a regulatory decision by the FCC.
But, hey, they could never do it again, could they?
Yeah, hf, and as Jeff mentioned in one of his posts yesterday, the feds are going to pony up $4 for every $1 the states offer in protection monies to protect your fat ass so that you don’t have to look for a job where, thanks to Porkulus, there won’t be any. Unless you want to hire out to help rebuild teh infrastructure. Oh, there might be one or two guvs who say, nah, thanks, for a short time, but soon people will be wondering where their pie is. Then the states will be better clients for the feds, too.
What the COPA and CIPA litigation left us with in terms of supreme court online free speech doctrine.
Supreme Courts change, you stupid bint.
Especially when a fascist is going to be doing the appointing.
I’m disgusted, Dan.
I’m with Happy. From the American Thinker article I linked somewhere:
And, this future isn’t very far off:
That’s what baracky is working on. NOt just Barack. The entire majority. Election MACHINE. Card check. Expanding government.
I saw a kid wearing an “Obama is my homeboy” shirt- and I almost puked.
Just don’t check cards when they come to the polls.
“meya: This was, after all, a law before in the eighties. This targets all speech, broadcast or internet, under the guise of establishing “balance†in POV’s.”
No the fairness doctrine was not a law (it was an FCC rule) and it was not about all speech, only broadcast. Note the difference in these two cases:
Red Lion Broadcasting vs. FCC
and
Miami Herald Publishing Co. v. Tornillo
“Supreme Courts change, you stupid bint.”
Well you can look them up and tell me how much they need to change. ACLU v. Reno, for example, was a 9-0 decision.
That, too, Dan. If I were a state that passed some sort of polling place ID check legislation in the past few years, I’d be getting ready to kiss goodbye to that under some sort of “civil rights” law in Congress.
Your smug assurances mean nothing, meya.
Dred Scott was 7-2.
Interesting defense of freedom from Camille Paglia:
http://tinyurl.com/acsqxx
.
Chavez-like perpetual motion government machinery in the US has been around for some time — I noticed it half a decade ago when I witnessed various “public” servants lobbying my legislature on their personal behalf. Which worked: lobby your employer on my dime so it can take from me and you’ll both get wealthier while I get poorer to the point of just throwing in the towel.
Government is the legal way to steal. Government therefore steals to feed. What would stop it, pray tell?
What’s the sector in full-on expansion mode these days, even while impairing an already impaired production class? Don’t say you weren’t warned: In effect, American Marxists have taken the means of production, just not by title. Yet.
If I wanted Zima and New Coke, I would have bought it while it was being offered.
My favorite — government agency provides grants to “public interest” group. Group sues government agency in order to expand the agency’s authority. Lather, rinse, and repeat.
The Beeb is worried about Chavez. I’m thinking they’re lowering the expectations for him and his Bolivarian Revolution. I think they’re on their second ten-year plan now?!?
Gee, it would have worked if the price of oil hadn’t tanked …
Heh:
This has been a crucial victory for Venezuela’s president. He had a lot riding on the outcome, both personally and politically.
He told voters that his destiny was in their hands and that he would respect their decision, win or lose.
Unlike the last time he let everyone vote on this issue, and it failed. But, THIS TIME he was going to respect their decision. Hey, did Mugabe ever step down?
Uh-Ah, Cavez no se va!
Then I got an even better one for you: Half a trillion a year in servicing the national debt. And probably growing at some compounded rate of some sort. At the moment, the system is racking up losses faster than the GDP is “growing”…not factoring the component of the GDP that’s inflation.
STOP FUNDING THE IRAQ WAR, U KONSERVATIVES!!!11!1
That’s what Baracky and meya want for America.
I do have to say that I’m amused by meya’s child-like faith that weasels such as Souter, Stevens, Ginsburg, and Kennedy would vote the same way when His Holiness was involved as they did on an issue coming from TEH EVIIIIILLL BOOOOOOSH!
(and yeah, I know Ginsburg is sick. Obama wil appoint someone worse. Count on it.)
But it’s in the Constitution, Rob. It has to be. Or they wouldn’t be doing it.
Which is to use a variant on the Google-It!™ argument, itself a variant on meya’s cozy if-it-were-true-why-isn’t-it-widespread triple intellectual axial.
We used to have slaves in this country I guess that means the law means nothing.
My new thing is mango tea with a little cane sugar. I got it from my Russian lady. That’s my new thing what I enjoy. It’s the mango black tea not one of the green ones. Very tasty.
Looks to me like the forward looking journalists are getting out while the getting’s good and going where they truly belong.
A word to the wise, Slartibartfast and JHoward:
The airwaves and cyberspace belong to the People/State and your mention of prayer just got you put on THE LIST. Don’t you “believe” in the separation of church and state?
Meya, After Kelo I have very little faith that the SCT can make a correct decision, even with big fat print saying “oh no you don’t!” right in front of it. I mean, they never would have upheld restrictions on speech regarding elections, er…campaign finance reform right? Oops.
Educate us on law, meya. Start with the basics.
We used to have slaves in this country I guess that means the law means nothing.
“Used to”? Try “will”, you stupid bint.
You already admitted that you want Obama to steal money from everyone else so you don’t have to pay back your student loans
You want to force other people to work for you at gunpoint, fascist bint, so you can can the “slavery” hypocrisy.
Sdferr, I imagine MoDowd is sitting by the phone …
Why doesn’t he call?
When they come for me, TaiChiWawa, then they can pay my way. It’ll be a lousy deal.
Let’s start setting up coordinated “Tea Parties” all over the country in preparation for what’s coming. If you read through my archives on “diversity,” as it currently considered, you’ll note that I each time refer to the diversity doctrine as anti-American in the strictest sense of the words.
Every time we let it gain purchase was a small step toward proportional representation and government oversight of what kind of speech is acceptable.
We shan’t go down without a fight, though. At least, I won’t.
[…] group MoveOn.org to troll for potential violations they can use to jack up station owners. Dan Collins notes that nowhere in MoveOn.orgs hit list can we find either PBS or NPR. They lean heavily left, so […]
mango tea parties!
Staat-shtuppers
I am stealing that one.
Count me in. Seriously.
I’d have crumpets, but that might be offensive to some.
I’d prefer strumpets, myself.
Let it not be forgotten that Baracky’s messing with the FCC is under the guise of diversity. Minority ownership and all that guff. Slart’s not worried, but I am.
Can we serve beer at the tea parties?
You know, Dr. Sanity has a really good article up today. linky. Small taste for non-clickers:
If this woman is not a slave I do not know who is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4eTX96se_w
I think the lady standing next to Henrietta was a zombie. An Obama-zombie.
Can we serve beer at the tea parties?
Perhaps Sam Adams.
Some interesting poll numbers from today:
Fairness Doctrine opposed 47% against, 38% for. Only 26% think conservatives have an unfair advantage, so it’s a safe bet that a good chunk of that 38% want more conservative media.
Also, Barky’s approval index continues its downward slide.
Post-Porkulus, consumer confidence hits all-time low.
Heckuva job, Barky!
She’s not a slave, she’s lower:
Freedom is not empowerment. Empowerment is what the Serbs have in Bosnia. Anybody can grab a gun and be empowered. It’s not entitlement. An entitlement is what people on welfare get, and how free are they? It’s not an endlessly expanding list of rights — the “right” to education, the “right” to health care, the “right” to food and housing. That’s not freedom, that’s dependency. Those aren’t rights, those are the rations of slavery — hay and a barn for human cattle.
The Liberty Manifesto, PJ O’Rourke
Carin it will all be easier once you guys unclench your fists. See Henrietta is where I envision most of you. You promise to vote for whoever has a D in front of their name, and I will promise to give you a daily share of bread and a roof over your head. It is the perfect master-slave relationship.
So. You guys still think I’m joking about an OUTLAW party?
Watch the GOP opinion leaders closely here. See how they react. Recall, Trent Lott was all for getting rid of certain conservative talk radio folk, given that he was often subject to their ire.
Another reason why, even if they couldn’t make it happen, I though Republicans in the Senate should have asked Arlen and the lobsterpot hussies to, to borrow a phrase, “get the fuck down off my obstacle!” If only to send a strong symbolic message to those of us who have just about lost faith in their ability to stem the tide of Euro social democracy and transnational progressivism that has been the longterm plan of the left for the last 5 decades.
Well, in all fairness, we haven’t gotten our extra $13 yet…
[…] the comments at PW. Freedom is not empowerment. Empowerment is what the Serbs have in Bosnia. Anybody can grab […]
Sure enough.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m planning to retire once I get that $13.
Crap. Didn’t mean to track that back.
Anyway, I’m right with J.G. on wondering why the “gang of three” didn’t get censured by the other Republicans. I guess, however, that the senate is just too “congenial” a place for that. In other words, most of them are whores, they just different on who they are whoring for. However, this could’ve been a good moment for Michael Steele to show some frelling backbone and called them out on it.
Since no one said it yet, I, for one, welcome our new FCC overlords.
[…] Dan exposes Henry Waxman’s [the Democrats’ own Nosferatu] latest authoritarian crusade, […]
Michael Steele is a disappointment.
Look wingbuts, Fairness Doctrine advocates are simply doing what they need to do to save this country from your right wing, George Bush inspired, god bothering opinions. If there is a bigger fatter more obniovious boil on the ass of America then limbaugh, I dont know who is. Its simple- if you thuglicans listened to liberals, you wouldn’t walk in lockstep, like nazis. If you were free thinkers, like we are, then everything is possible.
Oh, look: it’s fan mail from a unicorn.
One problem with that, Wewonsuckit: You have no idea what you believe. Or why. Meaning: You can no more defend that rant than you can support why fascism should occur and under what originalist authority.
You won. It’s all you have. Suck it.
[…] At Protein Wisdom, Dan Collins gets at the essence of the problem of the “Fairness Doctrine,” “The problem with defining diversity of perspective is, of course, that someone must do the defining.“ […]
An outlaw party? Well, “Sons of Liberty” doesn’t work anymore because of the acronym and gender bias.
Agreed. I had high hopes for him, but so far I am underwhelmed. I think maybe he thinks that he needs to be “polite” or something. That wont’ cut it. We need someone to stand up and make a case for the non-progressive way.
Of course, that had better happen quickly, because soon enough speech will be even more regulated than it is now.
OK, who’s sock-puppeting under the name “Wewonsuckit”? That’s gotta be a parody!
“Look wingbuts, Fairness Doctrine advocates are simply doing what they need to do to save this country from your right wing, George Bush inspired, god bothering opinions.”
In other words censorship. Remember, it *is* censorship when the government does it.
It’s gratifying to know that the opinions of the Outlaws have you quaking in fear so badly you need the government to silence us. Rock on!
Our masters tole us after Porkulus passed it wouldn’t work. They told us after it passed. 24 hours after it passed. They told us.
I’d love to help bring a Tea Party to the Atlanta area.
Yea, Wewon is a parody. It’s hard to tell, though.
I guess that means no arguing, then.
Oh, wonderful. The bane of my working life is having another chat-a-thon.
I *SO* want to stand on my desk, lean over the cube wall, and scream “USE YOUR GODDAMNED INSIDE VOICE!!!”
Hell, I’m about ready to start building a compound.
Witheld, how are you?
Rob, let me recommend the noise-canceling headphones yet again. Wonderful devices — way cheaper than hiring a lawyer to defend you against a murder rap, even if any sane jury would acquit as justifiable homicide.
Speaking of noise-canceling headphones, back in the bin you go, meya.
Wonkette? Great source there, meya.
Of course, Wonkette did inspire one of Ace’s GREATEST POSTS EVER.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you haven’t read it. Go clicky.
The Nasty Adolf. That post still cracks me up.
“Wonkette? Great source there, meya. ”
What you think that’s not actually hannity’s twitter?
I’m just amazed that you get your little marching orders from Wonkette.
meya is sad that we won’t change the subject.
Plessy vs. Ferguson: 7 to 1. Psst: slavery was dead and gone by then.
Wasn’t there some talk pre-election that barracky could executive order the fairness doctrine back into being ? I apologize for my ignorance in terms of the scope of executive power, as it seems to constantly expand.
I’ll be real honest- I can’t really see how the left can claim this is anything other than a stifling of free speech. Nobody makes you listen to Rush, Hannity, etc. Hell, I can’t stand to listen to Michael Savage so I just change the channel if he’s on. I like to make funny of Olberman, because he’s just so partisan but I would NEVER suggest we should force him off the air via legislation. The best you can really do is not tune in and support their advertisers. As an aside, I was listening to rush today (yes I’m that kind of wingnut) and the poor guy was bending over backwards to try to sell GM vehicles, claiming the unions were at fault (which I agree, they are) so we shouldn’t punish GM by not buying GM cars. Its one of the first times I’ve seen him be somewhat dishonest in the interest of pimping a show sponsor.
Is there some right to have something you like on the radio at all times in the Constitution ? If so, I’d like to know what it is because the morning shows on both AM and FM radio here in Tampa blow significant amounts of goats.
The only time I’ve read Wonkette was during that one “scandal” about the cute little chicky who was apparently screwing half of washington for money. in the butt.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that …. =x
I think she did Playboy and I was unimpressed.
Executive orders are pretty much unconstitutional, but most presidents don’t use them too often so not many complain. I am pretty sure no legislation can start anywhere but in congress, the senate then confirms, and the president affirms. Any other path is unconstitutional AFAIK.
That doesn’t stop them, of course. Plus, I’m not sure if anyone is even obligated to follow an executive order or not.
The first 100 days of my hypothetical administration would involve a flurry of executive orders that would result in the removal of said executive order from further use. At a minimum I would be a one termer, and most likely would be impeached forthwith.
My executive orders would incredibly radical in nature; remove as many infringements our elected officials and supreme court have made with respect to the constitution as possible. Since our representatives have been really busy over the past 200 years, it would take some doing.
The dirty socialists are in charge now and the don’t like the non-dirty non-socialists at ALL, they just won’t get with the program and they won’t shut up when the dirty socialists say “Shut Up!”, so they HAVE to do something to MAKE them shut up.
For their own good…
Cranky, thanks for that explanation. Your hypothetical was kinda my point- if the lightbringer can simply “change things, based on hope”, what’s the point of congress. I’d be interested to know if an executive order could be enforced. Isn’t that essentially how barraky brought back funding for countries that use the money for abortion ? My understanding was that particular issue has been changed every time there’s a party change in the Black House.
Of course, with a democratic majority, I am constantly asking myself “what is the point of congress”.
Matt,
“Of course, with a democratic majority, I am constantly asking myself “what is the point of congressâ€Â.”
I am constantly asking myself why they continue to call themselves “Democrats.”
Because Fascist has such a harsh ring to it…
Thank you for linking to that again, Carin. I had forgotten how funny that was.
Overreach. Let ’em try.
I loved your Green Goyim bit, Jim. I just don’t know how to work it in.
You must listen to a different Rush than I.
Today I heard Rush blame GM’s problems mostly on excessive Government control (CAFE standards and such). To the extent Rush talks about the unions, he mostly blames the auto company’s for signing suicidal contracts with them. His sales pitch consists of pointing out GM still makes fine cars despite their financial problems, no backward bending needed.
I’m not convinced you really listen to Rush, regardless the time you have him tuned to his show.
*I’m not convinced you really listen to Rush, regardless the time you have him tuned to his show.*
Err, Lee I seem to have offended you somehow. In fact, I did indeed have my little crappy radio in my little crappy office tuned to Rush for 3 hours today and it sure sounded to me like he was trying his best to sell cars for a sponsor who, as you mentioned, dug their own holes caving into bad union deals. I’ve certainly heard him talk about government oversight, especially all of the crappy green stuff forced on the auto companies by government as well, though I suppose I missed that part today. I wasn’t slamming Rush -far from it- I think its a tough sell now a days. In fact, I was looking through the paper today at some of the car ads and I’m shocked how high the prices STILL are, especially on SUVs and less popular cars. Now I realize, those prices are inflated artificially so people will come in and deal but in this market and with their asses on the line, I’d think the big 3 would practically be begging people to buy their cars. UNfortunately, I think without bankruptcy and a major reworking of their union contracts, we’re going to be pouring money into a black hole until the American people get sick of it.
No Matt, not offended. Just setting the record straight.
I agree with what you said #174. I was responding to the impression of implied hypocrisy I got from the “bending over backward” shot. I personally don’t see any conflict between Rush’s opinion of the state of affairs between the industry and Government, and his advertising GM cars.
I mean, he also criticized them for caving on the whole private jet thing, but that has nothing to do with the quality of their product (for now).
Democrat/FCC sources: Fairness Doctrine should also apply to the Internet…
Sneaky b*stards:
Senior FCC staff working for acting Federal Communications Commissioner Michael Copps held meetings last week with policy and legislative advisers to House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman to discuss ways the comm…
Just another phony twist of the meanings of the words “fairness” and “diversity” bu the Democrat popes of PC…
God help us all if this first amendment assault is successful…
Tell me more about this party idea. I’m much in favor of tea and strumpets. Do we get to dress up as Indians?
Its simple- if you thuglicans listened to liberals, you wouldn’t walk in lockstep, like nazis. If you were free thinkers, like we are, then everything is possible.
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine so you can walk in lockstep with us free-thinkers!!!!
I would laugh if it weren’t so damned creepy…
I don’t like censorship. I especially don’t like censorship in the guise of being ‘fair’. I may have to break the law.
I plan on using my banned pre-1984 books (from the CPSIA law of 2008) to cypher my banned speech, and passing them all spooklike in the public park to others to communicate the new message…
Outlaw!!
Poor little thor, the big boys must have took all his pennies at poker tonight.
My primary problem with Rush is that he keeps coming out with these trivially debunked pieces of crap “news” bits that I then find forwarded to my by various members of my family, which I then feel to obliged to debunk so as to avoid being related to people who are as tragically, habitually wrong as Limbaugh.
Latest example: the unsearchable stimulus bill PDF.
Christ, I hate it when Mediamatters is right about stuff like that. Just another thing I hate about Limbaugh: he gives them an occasion to be right, sometimes.
I only play with Arab sheiks, myself. We use thoroughbreds for chips.
What’s your point, hick child? You don’t read books. No, don’t even try to convince us otherwise, I mean, look how we laugh aloud inside when Carin claims such, same as your Bushista the Second
Thor, you’re such an asshole. and being dissed by you hurts so much. I don’t know if I can go on.
I don’t play for pennies
I fleeced some elderly widows out of $68 on the low-ante poker tables at the horse track today.
I don’t totally suck.
Don’t sell yourself short.