February 13, 2009

Moron Spills Beans on Drones [Dan Collins]

Intelligence:

A senior U.S. lawmaker said Thursday that unmanned CIA Predator aircraft operating in Pakistan are flown from an airbase inside that country, a revelation likely to embarrass the Pakistani government and complicate its counterterrorism collaboration with the United States.

The disclosure by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, marked the first time a U.S. official had publicly commented on where the Predator aircraft patrolling Pakistan take off and land.

At a hearing, Feinstein expressed surprise at Pakistani opposition to the ongoing campaign of Predator-launched CIA missile strikes against Al Qaeda targets along Pakistan’s northwest border.

“As I understand it, these are flown out of a Pakistani base,” she said of the planes.

The basing of the pilotless aircraft in Pakistan suggests a much deeper relationship with the United States on counterterrorism matters than has been publicly acknowledged. Such an arrangement would be at odds with protests lodged by officials in Islamabad and could inflame anti-American sentiment in the country.

What.an.idiot.

Contrast: Real American Heroes, Part 2

Related: Moron Holiday

Posted by Dan Collins @ 9:54am
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Comments (250)

  1. Can we just call in an airstrike on Feinstein’s office now?

  2. I watched her say this on C-Span’s repeat of yesterday’s testimony this morning and found my self wondering in real time (WTF?) did she just say that? Goddamn it.

  3. They probably knew about it anyway, but this gives the Taliban and al Qaeda forces help in pressuring the Pakistani Government. Well done Diane, well done. You really are an idiot.

  4. oh. It says she’s the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    *giggle*

  5. Fuck me!
    You know, I wish that koolaid they have all been drinking would hurry up and finish them off.

    The ever rising flood of stupid emanating from DC is starting to make me just a little bit cross.

  6. This is not very helpful to the stability of the Pakistani government. IMHO

  7. Alas, for I am become vexed.

  8. Leaking national security information is the highest form of patriotism.

    *giggle*

  9. oh. This part’s priceless…

    Phil LaVelle, a spokesman for Feinstein, said her comment was based solely on previous news reports that Predators were operated from bases near Islamabad.

    “We strongly object to Sen. Feinstein’s remarks being characterized as anything other than a reference” to a article that appeared last March in the Washington Post, LaVelle said. Feinstein did not refer to newspaper accounts during the hearing.

    Ok object to this as strong as you want LaVelle, you big girl. Your dirty socialist senator just compromised national security cause of her being so damn dumb. I’d hitch my wagon to another star if I were you.

  10. She means well, we’re supposed to say, it’s just that in the torrent of classified information she’s charged too absorb, things get a little confusing at times and, well, accidents happen to us all. Right?

    We’re not supposed to say that this is conclusive and final evidence that she has no business being on the Senate Intelligence Committee, let alone as the Chairwoman, and should be drummed out of there in ignominy forthwith. Have I got that right so far?

  11. Probability that the people of Pakistan were unaware of this = 0%

  12. Seriously, shouldn’t she be dropped from the Senate Intelligence Committee for this? Oh yeah, I forgot, the Senate is a law unto themselves. Usual laws, policies and protocol do not apply to them. I’m so glad the Democrats are in charge now. Reminds me of just how incompetent and evil they are. Now if we can just survive it.

  13. Well when the freakin President couldn’t pass a SCI then how the hell can we really complain about this?

  14. I’m sure Emptywheel is apoplectic. NOT. She’s still upset Hoekstra twittered his Iraq trip.

  15. Shit. She said it during Congressional business. She’s immune to prosecution.

  16. It’s a lot how dirty socialist senator Chuck Schumer caused IndyMac to collapse, really. These ones’ dirty socialist policies combined with their own dumb moufs make for an impressive display of disregard for our little country’s welfare I think.

  17. Leaking national security information is the highest form of patriotism.

    Remember how all the Dems were allegedly upset about super-secret agent Plame being revealed? Many of them, including Schumer, voted against the 1980s law that they wanted to use. You see, back then, it was fashionable amongst lefties to reveal the identities of CIA operatives in the Soviet Union and elsewhere, at best compromising their mission and at worst with the end result being death. Schumer and his buddies were fine with that.

  18. Probability that Snippy would ever criticize anyone with a D beside their name = 0%

    Someone remind me – what was snippy’s POV regarding the Valarie Plame super-dooper-secret leak?

  19. Dang, John beat me to it … I demand a do-over.

  20. Holy Shit! She is the fucking chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Commitee and can’t keep her mouth shut. The stability of Pakistan is critically important to our operations in the border regions, as her quote confirms, and in one sentence she threatens that stability that has been hanging by a thread. She should lose her job as chair woman.

  21. We also have supply lines thru Pakistan to Afghanistan. It is a vital strategic ally. Not to mention the fact they have nukes. Yeah good call Senator.

  22. Can we just kick CA out of the Union… get’s rid of San Fran Nan too…

  23. This would be Plamegate II if there was a Bush official to hang it on.

  24. “We strongly object to Sen. Feinstein’s remarks being characterized as anything other than a reference” to a article that appeared last March in the Washington Post, LaVelle said. Feinstein did not refer to newspaper accounts during the hearing.
    Even if true (which is unlikely), this isn’t the point. She’s an American official. That means that it will be publicized to no end in the Islamist press: “See! We told you so!”

  25. Carin,

    I’ll be happy to criticize any Dem doing something I consider bad.

    But I don’t consider trying to maintain a lie that everybody knows is a lie doesn’t strike me as a good thing.

    But then, I’m not a Republican.

    YMMV.

  26. Is it possible to rendition a US Senator?

  27. Diane’s to-do list for Friday February 13th 2009:

    Move the country towards economic collapse. CHECK!

    Tweez my back hairs. CHECK!

    Tweez my upper lip. CHECK!

    Kick my buttboy Phil out of my bed so I can go to work. CHECK!

    Vote for a bill that I have not read. Check!

    Destabilize a nuclear power in the Middle East region. Check!

    Buy toiletpaper on the way home. Screw it I will just use the Constitution.

  28. CHECK!

  29. Carin,

    I’ll be happy to criticize any Dem doing something I consider bad.

    Oh, you tease us. But we know you don’t mean it. Because it has never, ever happened.

    Now, back to Valarie Plame – what was your opinion about that horrible, awful leak of that super-duper secret agent lady with a desk job! Were you OUTRAGED?

  30. At a hearing, Feinstein expressed surprise at Pakistani opposition to the ongoing campaign of Predator-launched CIA missile strikes against Al Qaeda targets along Pakistan’s northwest border.

    Where’s this dirty socialist bimbo been the last seven years? She’s as dumb as Joe Biden I think. That’s shockingly dumb.

  31. Is it possible to rendition a US Senator?

    I think I saw Mike Rowe do that to a dead cow on “Dirty Jobs”.

    Or was that “rendering”?

  32. Feets, Feinstein was surprised that the opposition continues since the Annunciation of the Lightbringer.

  33. Or “Lightworker”. Whatever. It’s all crap.

  34. So everyone knew that we fly Predator drones off their airbases? Wow can you give me a link to that information please cause I sure as hell had no freakin clue.

  35. parsnip,
    The omission of information is not a lie, you idiot. Hey, now that I think about it, who are you? By not giving me your name and using a fake name aren’t you lying too?!

  36. “I’ll be happy to criticize any Dem doing something I consider bad.”

    Yes. That would be anything vaguely sane, logical, not statist, or socialistic, eh, snippit ?

  37. You do realize idiot that this probably means we might have a few personell in Paki refueling and upkeeping those drones. This puts everyone of their lives in extreme danger. Nah pay no attention to that though just type how much you hate Bush you retarded piece of garbage.

  38. …and ACTUALLY, the subsequent statement is the TRUE lie, you can’t tell me that the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee knowledge comes from the Washington Post. As anyone in intelligence knows, YOU NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE ANY PRESS STORY OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. The excuse is MUCH worse than the slip of tongue during the live hearing

  39. JFH,

    Every single time there’s a Predator strike in Pakistan, the Pakistani civilian government complains to the U.S. about it.

    Everybody knows the Pakistani government has authorized the strikes, so why keep up the pretense?

  40. We are going to hell in a handbasket. This retard will be reelected right alongside Pelosi.

  41. parsnip, do we have to explain politics to you?

  42. I’m permitting you to post, parsitongue, because teh stoopid is delicious.

  43. Parsnip where did you get your talkin points from? I rather go to the source of your bullshit so I won’t have to bother to read you anymore.

  44. That’s absolutely not true, parsnip… it is your ASSUMPTION. Besides, the new information is that the drones are based out of Pakistan, which was NOT known, by many people and certainly not verified by the US Government!!

  45. Parsnips didn’t anyone ever tell you you are not supposed to go full retard.

  46. We all know the veggie’s real name, home address, and its list of subscriptions to gay porn periodicals, so if Collins was to verify as much on the record, it would be no big deal.

  47. She is not dumb or an idiot in the way meant here. This would have been carefully thought out by the Central Committee of the Democrats before she ever said it.

    What is/will happen in “Paw-Kee-Ston” is the whole point of this “slip”. Then will come the objective which will inevitably involve more power to the Party™.

  48. Too late fot that Pink. Way too late. Dan, he’s not any dumberererererer than normal. He seriously has no worth.

  49. Pinkie:

    Pakistan would also like at least to “be in the room” when targeting decisions for CIA aerial drone attacks in the FATA are made, a senior Pakistani official said.

    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009212story_12-2-2009_pg1_9

  50. These socialists just parody themselves these days, no? Have the lefties always been this disloyal, anti-American, anti-military and evil/stupid? Don’t answer that….

  51. Where in there does it say that the drones would be flown out of Pakistani airfields?

    Helloooo McFly you do not have to defend this. You are free to just say “hey what an idiot” and then move on.

  52. Good lord, you are a self-refuting prophecy, snippy.

  53. On Feb. 23, the day before the address to Congress, the president will convene a “fiscal responsibility summit” in Washington, most likely at the White House, with top administration officials, members of Congress and outside groups to discuss entitlement and long-term budget issues.

    Oh jeez, Mr. Pink. Our dirty socialist piece of Chicago street trash president isn’t near as clever as him thinks him is.

  54. From Mr. Pink’s link: “But the strategy to promote these items is getting an emergency overhaul. Obama plans to travel more and campaign more in an effort to pressure lawmakers with public support…”

    Travel and campaign. It’s all he does. It’s all he knows how to do. Listen, and understand. That president is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are penniless!

  55. Squid: So this guy is a cyborg? Makes sense.

  56. parsnip, why are you linking to a story that is about the Mumbai attacks? These are not the drones we’re looking for.

  57. Yeah I too laughed when I read “fiscal responsibility summit”. It will probably have as much effect on fiscal responsibility as an Arab-Israeli peace summit has on world peace.

    55 hehe great movie
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEW-xFyBiJs

  58. Pinkie,

    Don’t forget the lie Pakistan is trying to maintain: That the drone attacks are being carried out against their will.

    What does it cost America to get the Pakistanis to lie so unconvincingly for us?

    A billion dollars a year in bribes?

    Probably more.

    And yet, nobody believes them.

  59. So parsnip, you’re want the Pakistani government to be more transparent, but you aren’t concerned about the stimulus not being presented to the public in its final form for longer than six hours before being signed into law?

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  61. “Travel and campaign. It’s all he does.”

    He was selected to be the chief flak-catcher and PR spokes-model. Invulnerable in his racial armor.

    He is doing the job for which he ran. It just wasn’t the one for which he was elected. Pity that.

  62. pledge,

    It will be nice to get Porkulus behind us.

  63. Sadly, Feinstein happens to be California’s *smart* senator. Our most populous state sends such retards to Congress. Sigh.

    Cordially…

  64. So parsnip, you’re want the Pakistani government to be more transparent, but you aren’t concerned about the stimulus not being presented to the public in its final form for longer than six hours before being signed into law?

    Parse nips is agreeing that we all know what a craptastic piece of shit the spending bill is so let’s not pretend otherwise.

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  66. Quite simply, this is the kind of transparency this country needs. There shouldn’t be any secret bases in any middle eastern country and other countries have a right to know that Pakistan is giving into our imperial urges. Feinstein is a truthteller, unlike Bush, who spent the last 8 years lying to us about everything from WMD to the failure of the war in Iraq to his military service. I don’t understand why you rethuglicans, who supposed love jesus, want our country to lie about what its doing. Are you ashamed ? Our president is stuck having to deal with that idiot W’s foreign mess in Iraq, as well as in Afghanistan, which is completely overrun by terrorists and by all accounts, a collosal failure. And to add to it, W completely alienated Iran and now as they develop their nuclear weapons, its going to be up to Obama to patch things up. Quite frankly, NONE of you who supported Bush’s foreign policies has any right to question the way democrats do things, especially when it comes to foreign affairs. We are going to fix our relationships with foreign countries because we need to understand them rather than call them “evil”. Though if anybody would know evil, its W….

  67. Well, of course you are.

    Every looter is eager to get the hard part over with so that they can enjoy the lucre.

  68. *Everybody knows the Pakistani government has authorized the strikes, so why keep up the pretense?*

    Exactly. Transparency in foreign affairs is vital – we’ve been sneaking around behind people’s back and that does not work, as the failed policies of the past 8 years have clearly evidenced.

  69. 67
    You just summed up every Parsnip and Thor comment I have ever read thank you.

  70. Don’t let the little shit change the subject. The question was: what was his position on the “outing” of Plame’s role in having her lying husband sent to Africa?

    And the answer is that he sure as hell didn’t take the position that telling the truth about her role and his bias was praiseworthy because “trying to maintain a lie that everybody knows is a lie doesn’t strike [him] as a good thing.”

  71. Has wewonsuckit gotten his Presidential Kneepads yet? What an evil bastard this troll is.

  72. Feinstein is a truthteller, unlike Bush, who spent the last 8 years lying to us about everything from WMD to the failure of the war in Iraq to his military service.

    Go read the last 20 years of the declassified CIA intelligence briefings to congress on Iraq you idiot – they are available at the CIA website and you will see that the CIA was apparently lying to Congress about Saddam’s WMD’s for a long, long time before Bush came along. I guess what you are saying is, Bush should have known that the billion dollar funded CIA had for years had there heads up their asses or just really, really wrong.

    Quite frankly, NONE of you who supported Bush’s foreign policies has any right to question the way democrats do things, especially when it comes to foreign affairs.

    Bullcrap. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism- your ruless. Suck it.

  73. I thought Wewonsuckit was a parody?

  74. I’m pretty sure it’s parody, nikkolai.

  75. It is, Mr. Pink. He just forgot to add the /moron tag.

  76. oh. rats.

  77. Feinstein is a truthteller, unlike Bush

    Bush isn’t President.

    Sorry to break the news to you.

    It’s Plastic Jesus who’s missiling the fuck out of Pockeestawn, and Plastic Jesus who is responsible for operational security.

    Quite frankly, NONE of you who supported Bush’s foreign policies has any right to question the way

    Quite frankly, the Constitution of the United States says otherwise, fascist.

  78. It is pretty sad when a pretty obvious parody actually sounds like the trolls and morons over at Kos. I do not think they get the irony though.

  79. Oh, and if you are a parody: good one. With nipply, semen and their ilk around it’s hard to tell sometimes.

  80. Bush was president for 8 years. Did this stuff just show up on Obama’s doorstep? NO. Bush made his bed, now he’s making us clean up after he took a big steaming rethuglican crap in it. Its what you do – crap on the country and wait for us to clean it up for you. And there’s plenty of documentation about Bush’s lies over the years not to mention he put so much pressure on the CIA to agree with him about Iraq, what else could they do. Bush made Colin Powell run for the democratic party after he made him lie in front of the world. Has there ever been WMD’s found in Iraq ? Old stuff, nothing recent and nothing dangerous. Yeah Hussein was an ass but at least that part of the world was stable.

  81. semi on topic – but if this doesn’t scare the shit of you — Obama lawyer Craig admits that Obama doesn’t understand the law in prosecuting terrorists and that they went back to the 1993 model of prosecuting terrorist (that worked out well) and that it took a 9-11 family member to explain to them the dangers in which Craig admits they hadn’t condsidered! D’oh. Also, did you know classified information was in the hands of Osama mere weeks after 93 trials?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/obamas-outrageous-oversight/

  82. Bush’s lies over the years not to mention he put so much pressure on the CIA to agree with him about Iraq, what else could they do.

    Suck it – for years before Bush was in office the CIA was telling congress Saddam was pursuing and most likely had WMD. Period, Mr. Histrionics.

  83. Yeah Hussein was an ass

    You think?

  84. TSK9, you can just put in a mental /moron after everything he says. He’s parodying the mentality.

  85. Every looter is eager to get the hard part over with so that they can enjoy the lucre.

    I don’t think I will personally be getting a cut from Porkulus, pledge.

    But then, I haven’t read it.

  86. Feinstein’s pro-terrorist, anti-Obama WOT policy, work concerning this matter should not go unrewarded by the Left…er, unpunished….er….

  87. Nothing Bush did rationalizes Baracky’s dirty socialist debasement of our little country, Mr. suckit. It just doesn’t. Baracky and his woman own that all by their Chicago street trash selves I think.

  88. So, Mr. Suckit, how does exposing this datum advance America’s interests?

  89. In order for suckit to be parody, wouldn’t he have to be distinguishable from a run-o’-the-mill leftard? So far, nothing’s been too far outside the troll norm except you don’t usually get the whole basket of teh crayzee at once.

    Although if suckit ties in the Jooooooos and AGW, I’ll join the “parody” train.

  90. Everyone is going to have to have some skin in the game HappyFeet. I will not allow you to go back to your normal life, uninvolved and uninformed. By the way did you know that as a black man I can get shot going to a gas station?

  91. Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands the stimulus. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation.

  92. People all over the world/Join in . . .

  93. Evidence continues to accrue that Carlos Slim is a moron too.

  94. Not really, happyfeet. He’s betting that O! and Congress will make a multi-billion dollar bailout of the NY Times, from which he can recoup his investment, with a tidy profit.

  95. “Obama lawyer Craig admits that Obama doesn’t understand the law in prosecuting terrorists”

    It always comes down to, they are either stupid or evil, as an excuse for all behavior they are caught out doing. The stupid excuse is the one always invoked, and it wears thin, very thin.

  96. Don’t forget your brothers in Africa. Wouldn’t be right.

  97. oh. Hi Obama, if that’s your real name. I am completely not involved in your little socialist cult of personality thing. No, for real. When I was in NY my company rented an auditorium for people to go see your dumb dirty socialist ass get inaugurated and almost everyone went except not me because of you make me sick is why. You and your woman both. I like your sense of humor though.

    And Obama hit the Blue Dogs’ fiscal hot button, affirming that “we’ve go to start looking at how do we reduce the debt – the debt that we owe so much of to foreign countries,” Cuellar said.*

    *giggle*

  98. Hey, Suckit, you never win because you’ll always be a drooling idiot.

  99. Suckwit. Cool new expression for mendoucheous felcher.

  100. I am simply seeking a break from the failed policies of the last 8 years. I am saying to the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect.

    Also
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg-6TadKvAc

  101. Yes, pursuing- not have WMD. Did he use them on our troops ? No. Did we find any in Iraq ? No. Bush’s high pressure tactics caused him to manipulate the CIA in order to move forward with the invasion. Oh sure, maybe they were around during Clinton’s term in office. But Bush wanted Sadamm Hussein out of the way and the truth was irrelvant. Again- Colin Powell. Colin. Powell.

    And the stimulus- come on, we’ve been saddled with this massive debt already thanks to Bush. The economy was fine and rolling along, then Bush and the rehuglican congress started messing with it. Look at the mortgage crisis- who was in charge of oversight – rethuglicans. Who was supposed to oversee the big corporations like Enron. Gosh I wonder. Can you please justify how a CEO of a bankrupt company deserves a 25 million dollar salary when some people around the world can’t even afford a loaf of bread and are stuck eating shoe leather. And do you know how many freaking union workers lost their jobs while the CEO’s of their companies were swimming in their filthy lucre.

    There is only one way to get out of this crisis and that’s to give it to people who will use for the betterment of our country. I hear all this bad stuff about ACORN but isn’t ACORN going to use that money to hire people and create new jobs ? Won’t that stimulate economy for plenty of people who don’t work and need a goal. The stimulus isn’t being built to stimulate just stuff YOU thuglicans agree with (see the whiny senator who keeps complaining about the “exclusion” of faith based stuff in PUBLIC SCHOOLS- church and state idiots). Its built to stimulate every level of the economy, including the poor. The poor have the constitutional right to be able to better themselves and if it takes the government to do it, then so be it. Personally, I’d rather the poor get 25 million then some fat cat CEO- how many cars and homes does one person need anyway. Why not buy some homes for the poor. ask yourself who would jesus give the money to ??

  102. it took a 9-11 family member to explain to them the dangers in which Craig admits they hadn’t condsidered!

    Jeebus.

    They’re children. That’s got to be it. They’re little more than children.

  103. I dunno, pledge. Newspapers are very carbon-intensive to produce. I don’t see how Congress could rationalize suffocating Gaia with gouts and gouts of little carbon dioxide molecules when they have so many other dirty socialist media outlets at their disposal what actually have a national reach. I know I’d sure protest. For the children.

  104. Suckwit, please tell us more about this Jesus, of whom we have heard so much.

  105. That is just me trying to be bipartisan and extend my hand in friendship. See when I go before the blue dog caucus and talk about fiscal responsibility I am really saying “I feel your pain”. Not like that will change any of my actions mind you, but it warms my heart to see their faces light up with hope that I will.

  106. Jesus loves me this I know, Dan.

  107. We sang that at my mom’s funeral cause mom wanted a song what kids that got stuck going to her funeral would know. I thought that was way cool and said a lot about her.

  108. “ask yourself who would jesus give the money to ??”

    LOL…No one. He didn’t have any.

  109. oh. That was a tangent.

  110. “I hear all this bad stuff about ACORN but isn’t ACORN going to use that money to hire people and create new jobs ? Won’t that stimulate economy for plenty of people who don’t work and need a goal.”

    I got a goal for them that is true. I also have a job for you if you want one. Your new job is to register the defensive line of the Seattle Seahawks in Virginia. Chop chop b!tch I will not allow you to go back to your normal life uninvolved.

  111. Now you’re mocking our president. That’s completely unacceptable. Look, you should respect the office if you can’t respect the man. We respected the office for 8 years while putting up with a moron, the least you can do is be respectful to the first black president of the united states.

    And jesus is supposed to be the guy you god bothers listen to. Those retarded bumper stickers I see every day while driving to the wellfare office in my beetle, they say WWJD. Well, when I went to church once, the guy preaching said we’re supposed to help the poor. I don’t believe in god but I believe in the poor.

  112. We respected the office for 8 years

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    And the exact question is, who is Jesus, without referring to us in your definition.

  113. Wewin you are not supposed to speak directly to me. You are supposed to walk 5 paces behind and slightly to the left. Can you hold on a second though I have to get all these muslims out of the camera shot behind me. Oh wait I won, ok time to go apologize to Iran and film myself with as many muslims as possible.

  114. You’re right about one thing, Obama. Everybody does have skin in this game, and we’re all going to lose it.

    “I will not allow you to go back to your normal life, uninvolved and uninformed.”

    That sends a sickening little shiver, recalling my demented hippie sister Wellesley grad so many eons of pain, dead bodies and broken lives ago. Don’t you just love it: once again, the fascist injunction for your own good. Jeezus, does anything ever change with you people? But maybe you’re right about that, too! Maybe no one will be able go back to their normal life after this crypto-Marxist little wanker is done with us.

  115. Good job Feinstien I hope that your stupid ass mouth doesn’t cost this guy his life.
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96AS00O5&show_article=1

  116. ““we’ve go to start looking at how do we reduce the debt – the debt that we owe so much of to foreign countries,””

    His “we”, means me and thee, not he.

  117. Yes, pursuing- not have WMD.

    You know who else said that Iraq had WMD, suckwit?

    Bill and Hillary “Obama’s Secretary of State” Clinton.

    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    So, good luck with that.

  118. Anyone ever notice how tidy insects are? If you watch almost any insect for a thirty seconds or so you’re nearly guaranteed to catch them cleaning themselves. Whereas cats, you’re likely to have to wait fifteen minutes at least. Fucking insects.

  119. Didn’t you read my Commandment #9 “It is only fascism if you have the wrong intentions.”? It is the one right after #8, “Thou shalt hold no other politicians before me.”

  120. Parody. The clincher was “…I see every day while driving to the wellfare office in my beetle”.

    Witheld, is this an edgier version of you?

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  122. LTC John beat me to it.

  123. Either suckwit is a parody, or he found a 40-year-old time capsule in Berkeley complete with student undergrad essays and stale hallucinogens.

  124. I may end up on active duty again someday, so I’ll just have to say that I am disappointed in Sen. Feinstein.

    If any of this comes back on all our guys in the 33rd BCT, I may say alot more.

  125. DarthRove do you not recognize a graduate of the Chicago Public School System?

  126. “Has there ever been WMD’s found in Iraq ?”

    Yeah, it came as kind of a surprise to Saddam Hussein, too, who rolled the dice and thus sadly gave up his rule and life as a result of not complying with the Res. 1441 ultimatum, apparently because he thought he did have them, or at least that his subjects were pursuing their acquisition in a proveable way.

    Both misperceptions perhaps due to George Boooosh’s Great Powers?

    For, all things considered and against all Intelligence and proclamations by Democrats, it turns out that Booosh was apparently the only person in the World who knew for sure that WMD’s weren’t there, then malevolently proving his omniscience by invading Iraq and not finding them!

    There you have it, Suckit, “Bush lied” is true, but he’s also omniscient, and omnipotent and malevolent to boot, if we are to believe your “logic”. And, hey, I think I’m about to agree, and that, therefore, Obama is doooomed.

    Btw, Suckit, what Evil do you think Booosh has in store for us as a result of his policy’s perfect record concerning the lack of further 9/11-like attacks upon America, which Obama now finds he must so slavishly follow? It’s got to be very baaaad, right?

    Even though resistence to Boooosh is obviously futile, please clue us in anyway.

  127. “Well, when I went to church once, the guy preaching said we’re supposed to help the poor. I don’t believe in god but I believe in the poor.”

    That was good. Bravo.

  128. Demanding someone prove a negative is one of the best tricks there is, Trashman.

  129. Peden – never mention “Bush” and “intelligence” in the same sentence. This alleged policy that allegedly kept us safe just moved the conflict elsewhere, to poor countries who are far less capable of cleaning up the mess. Do the jihadists really have a beef with people in bolivia or wherever ? Of course not. They have a beef with America. And who says Bush’s policy safeguarded this country ? Oh sure, maybe there were no attacks from without but look at what 8 years of Bush did to the country from within. Ruined our economy, ran up our debt in an unjust war and lorded over an economy where big corporations stuck it to the little guy. “The failed policies of the last 8 years.” I mean, I can’t say it any better than Obama did during the campaign and the american people responded.

    And wtf is wrong with a beetle- its fuel efficient and reliable , unlike the gas guzzling SUVs rethuglicans are so fond of driving.

  130. They’re children. That’s got to be it. They’re little more than children.

    ‘Fits in well with the Malignant Narcissism qua deranged infantilism on wide display, too, as well as with the Fairy Tale delusionalism from which the Progressives seem to always proceed.

  131. Parnips got it- if you found WMD, then there were WMD. If you didn’t then there weren’t. “Seeing is believing” and since we didn’t see, why the hell should we believe.

  132. “Well, when I went to church once, the guy preaching said we’re supposed to help the poor. I don’t believe in god but I believe in the poor.”

    I don’t. I think they’re made up.

    A conspiracy of demographers, that’s what it is.

  133. and since we didn’t see, why the hell should we believe.

    Well, so the whole Iraq war thing wasn’t an illegal invasion, Suck?

  134. I don’t know if it was illegal (above my pay grade) but it was certainly built on lies, to push a neocon agenda in the middle east.

  135. Aw, c’mon. I’d hate to see you guys quarrel.

  136. nipply: Demanding someone prove a negative

    Theorem: There is no rational number p/q such that p/q is equal to the square root of two.

    Proof:

    Assume there is such a rational number, expressed in lowest terms.

    Then (p/q)^2 = p^2/q^2 = 2.

    Therefore p^2 = 2q^2.

    Therefore p^2 is even.

    The product of two even numbers is even, while the product of two odd numbers is odd. Therefore p is even, so can be expressed as 2k, where k is some other integer.

    Now we have (2k)^2 = 2q^2, or 4k^2 = 2q^2.

    This reduces to 2k^2 = q^2.

    Therefore q^2 is an even number and, by the same argument as above, q is even.

    This violates the assumption that p/q was in lowest terms.

    Therefore no such rational number p/q exists.

    QED.

    Suckwit: “Seeing is believing” and since we didn’t see, why the hell should we believe.

    Ask Hillary “Obama’s Secretary of State” that question, Suckwit. Then ask Plastic Jesus why he appointed someone who LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED ABOUT WMD! to be fourth in line for the Presidency.

    Bush isn’t in office any more, guys. You’re going to have to accept that eventually. Why not now?

  137. So, this means that the 2007 NIE report was the utter politicized bullshit we all knew it was.

    We Have Always Been At War With Eastasia.

  138. Speaking of Iraq, Charles Krauthammer** as usual has his eye squarely on the ball. Obama, so far, appears not to.

  139. Hey SBP, cockslapping nipply via reducto ad absurdam is quite fitting. But I doubt his absurdam will ever reduct.

  140. You lost him at rational.

  141. I thought about punning on “rational”, Darth, but I decided to have some pity on you guys.

  142. Unlike Roland. :-)

  143. SBP, they deal only in imaginary numbers. I thought the Lancet report would have made that clear.

  144. Of course we all know that the onus to prove the presence or absence of the WMD wasn’t on Bush anyway. It was on Saddam.

    Under the terms of the cease-fire, Saddam was obligated to provide unfettered access to the weapons inspectors so they could demonstrate to their satisfaction that all the weapons were gone.

    He didn’t.

  145. There’s actually an arithmetic continuum called the surreal numbers.

    Those are what nipply uses, I’ll bet.

    A simple Markov chain could play nipply. Heck, you could probably simulate nipply with a good set of D&D dice.

  146. Need I remind you people I won?

  147. I think the left misses the days when they could rally against the sanctions on Iraq because they “weren’t working” and were killing babies, before they proclaimed that the sanctions were working and there was no reason to invade. Before that it was criticism of Bush the senior for not finishing the job (by exceeding his UN mandate) and leaving the rebellious in southern Iraq to be killed.

    The lesson from the left is this: Don’t encourage Iraqis to overthrow Saddam themselves. Don’t do it for them. Don’t impose draconian sanctions on his regime. Don’t enforce a no-fly zone to prevent Saddam from mass murder – they didn’t actually say this but it is implicit in the argument that we got what we deserved due to our presence in the holy land which is what enraged Bin Laden. The only reason people on the left don’t realize how stupid and dishonest they are is because arguing with one’s emotions means never having to account for what was said previously.

  148. “The only reason people on the left don’t realize how stupid and dishonest they are is because arguing with one’s emotions means never having to account for what was said previously.”

    Abe that is a feature. Hell what do you think my work on the Chicago Public School System was all about?

  149. The lesson from the left is this: Don’t encourage Iraqis to overthrow Saddam themselves. Don’t do it for them. Don’t impose draconian sanctions on his regime. Don’t enforce a no-fly zone to prevent Saddam from mass murder – they didn’t actually say this but it is implicit in the argument that we got what we deserved due to our presence in the holy land which is what enraged Bin Laden. The only reason people on the left don’t realize how stupid and dishonest they are is because arguing with one’s emotions means never having to account for what was said previously.

    Kinda like their Iran isn’t building a bomb Bush lies/Iran is building a bomb Obama truth kabuki dance.

  150. I don’t know how to read that Techie but that our intelligence community is rife with treasonous fags. They should be a lot more comfortable now that Baracky is titularly in charge. Cause of he won and all.

  151. “Heck, you could probably simulate nipply with a good set of D&D dice.”

    One of those “magic 8 balls” would suffice.

  152. *titularly*

    Heh heh >sniff< heh heh. Hey Beavis, he said *tit*ularly. Heh heh, heh heh

  153. They only consider it treason if they betray the Left. Country, meh, not so much.

  154. tour of CIA headquarters … and we’re walking and we’re walking and here we have treasonous fag treasonous fag treasonous fag and oh here’s Bob – Say hi to the nice people Bob – treasonous fag treasonous fag treasonous fag… okay that’s pretty much the rundown. Did you have any questions?

    um. Those ones aren’t wearing any pants.

    oh. Exactly. That’s because they’re treasonous fags, remember? Let’s go over this again…

  155. parsnip,
    I have covered terror finance for some years on two papers and magazine.
    How to put this–I know a lot.
    drop the partisan horseshit: Feinstein really, really screwed up.
    badly, so very badly.
    About several dozen Paki’s knew this, maybe not that much. They are at real risk now.
    this base, and the political costs it represents us in supporting whatever moron is in power over there, is central to the WoT.
    this woman is a complete and utter ass. An indecent, dumb, malevolent ass.

  156. ACORN-oh crap.
    Yeah W, they are ALL about the jobs.
    I’ve dealt with those guys for years….the only jobs they create is satellite offices.
    c’mon.
    Im the biggest Bush basher around here, but there’s validity and absurdity, you know?

  157. We had a visit by a CIA recruiter when I was in undergrad.

    Kind of a slimy guy, really.

    Given that this was the person they chose to put the public face on the agency, I didn’t really form a positive impression.

  158. mcguber,

    If the C.I.A. was running an airport in your neighborhood, do you think you’d notice it?

    Yeah.

    So do the Pakistanis.

  159. “Well, so the whole Iraq war thing wasn’t an illegal invasion, Suck?”

    Aided and abetted by the entire United States congress. Woot!

  160. the person they chose to put the public face on the agency

    To be fair, that metric probably never occurred to them. Likely the guy pulled a Feinstein, and was assigned recruiting duties as a punishment.

  161. Likely the guy pulled a Feinstein, and was assigned recruiting duties as a punishment.

    Mmmm…. possible. But if they are doing that, they should probably stop. :-)

  162. If the C.I.A. was running an airport in your neighborhood, do you think you’d notice it?

    The predator drones are probably employed from a truck, launched from whatever private strip they happen to be at that day. It’s not like they need a building with “secret” signs plastered all over it next to the terminal of a major airport.

    The CIA could be launching drones from a private farm 2 miles from your house, and you wouldn’t have a clue. Dumbass.

  163. If the C.I.A. was running an airport in your neighborhood, do you think you’d notice it?

    Yeah, I’m sure they have a big sign, open house with goat humping contests, falafel and ballons.

  164. Snippy doesn’t seem to understand that even if every goat herder in Pakistan knew about the drones the fact is that keeping quiet and providing the host government with deniability (for their own reasons) is a small price to pay for cooperation. I suppose that next Snippy will demand that Obambi admit that he wants the census handled in house so they can cheat because the fact that everyone knows this is insufficient.

  165. Provided the private farm had a mile long paved runway, lee.

    http://ftp.fas.org/irp/program/collect/predator.htm

    Every farm has one in Pakistan.

    Not sure what you’re going on about with the trucks.

  166. I’m sure they would be talking about it on their blogs and facebooks.

  167. Nipply’s dodging the issue, as usual.

    This isn’t Bush ordering these drones any more, nipply. It’s Obama.

    Own it, bitch.

    There are at least 64 runways capable of launching Predators in Pockeeeeeeeestawn, by the way.

    A one mile runway isn’t shit. Every private airport in East Bumfuck, Kansas has one of those, so don’t make out like they’re taxiing the Predators past the international terminal.

    You need close to twice that length if you’re going to land wide-body jets under all conditions.

  168. Not sure what you’re going on about with the trucks.

    Did you read your own link?

    The air vehicle can be broken-down into six primary parts and packed into a container known as the “coffin.”

    The UAV Ground Control Station (GCS) is a 30x8x8 foot, triple-axle, commercially available trailer.

    A 5000 ft straight piece of hardtop isn’t as hard to find as you think, even in that poor, backwater; nuclear Pakistan.

  169. Oh, I’m sure there’s a good chance Obama will pull a Nixon and drag out our wars, SBP.

    We’ll still love him though.

  170. **Predator follows a conventional launch sequence from a semi-prepared surface under direct line-of-sight control. The take-off and landing length is typically 2,000ft.

  171. Well, alphie is pretty fucking stupid, Sdferr. We’ve established that fact many moons ago. Maybe he thinks 2,000 feet is a mile. Maybe that’s why the mile high berm thing wasn’t that big of a deal for it?

  172. Smooth ground and Marsden Matting would probably work very well.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsden_Matting

  173. Haha, OI,

    It pays to have some extra runway in case you need a little extra room.

    So now we need a paved runway a mile long and a vehicle assembly building and a 30ft long contol building.

    Doesn’t sound very secrety to me.

    As Abe says, “providing the host government with deniability”

    From Dan’s original link:

    Nevertheless, most Pakistanis believe the civilian leadership has continued former President Pervez Musharraf’s policy giving the United States tacit permission to carry out the strikes.

  174. Really? That’s what the enlightened Germans call ‘em when they live in their neighborhood. They are our betters, so I just assumed it was ok.

  175. Hm. I guess the PC police have showed up. Everybody mind your P’s and Q’s.

    Or are P’s and Q’s offensive to twatwaffles that show up and tut-tut folks?

  176. 30ft long contol building.

    Big whoop. A standard trailer house is 14×70, idiot.

    So, a paved road of 2,000 feet to one mile, a truck, and a trailer.

    Doesn’t sound much like Launch Pad 39-A and the VAB to me, nipply.

    Aren’t you worried at all about Feinstein messing up President Jesus’s Sekrit Mission?

    We know you don’t give a rat’s ass about the troops or the CIA guys involved, but you gotta remember that bombing the fuck out of Pockeeeeeeeestawwwwn is the only promise that Barky has kept so far. You gotta leave him at least ONE, right?

    Or have you already given up on him?

  177. enlightened Germans = Neo nazis, Carin?

    Wouldn’t surprise me.

  178. I thought Boxer was the dumb one.

  179. Pakis is not the preferred nomenclature dude.

    Fuck ‘em. Sideways.

  180. It’s just weird that Diane can’t say oops I’m an idiot I’m sorry. If I jeopardized national security or threatened the stability of not even a strategically important country but some totally stupid country like Belgium, I’d be all like I am sooooo sorry. It’s just good manners.

  181. Erm. No. The liberal Germans who that live in Germany and love Obama that I know because I’m related to them by marriage. And use the term “Paki”. Plus, all the Germans my husband knew when he lived in Germany. I believe it was – to be complete – “those smelly Pakis.” Neo-nazis? Well, I don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, but they wore Bierkenstocks, and then men carried man-purses. Didn’t look like Neo-nazis to me.

    But, go on with your fantasy if you’d like.

  182. Happy, if she has to apologize for stupid … well, the floodgates could be opened.

  183. Good point. She voted for Baracky’s phony “stimulus” too. Diane is just stuck on stupid this week I guess. LaVelle must be thinking this is so not what I signed up for.

  184. And use the term “Paki”.

    Some white hippie types in the UK decided, out of the blue, that Paki was offensive, despite it meaning “pure” in Urdu. Pakistan = “land of the pure (people)”.

    Yep, that’s a horrible insult, all right.

  185. #178
    Stll, maya, it isn’t license to be stupid, which a whole lot of democrats are turning out to be. Our dumb democrat president is no exception. I’d ask you why democrats are so stupid, but you’re a democrat.

  186. Parsnip these are my Predator drones now numbnuts. Please read page 142 of the little blue book and refer to tactic 66 “Just take a vacation to Hawaii and let the media wash it away.” Look the stimulus bill is about to pass and pretty soon everyone here will be bitching about that. If you keep commenting on this thread I will excommunicate you. Don’t make me say “That is not the Parsnip I knew.”

  187. “Now you’re mocking our president. That’s completely unacceptable. Look, you should respect the office if you can’t respect the man. We respected the office for 8 years while putting up with a moron, the least you can do is be respectful to the first black president of the united states.”

    OK. Suckit you are clearly very ignorant or are a very good parody. I am leaning towards the later but I will bite anyway.

    Bush has been disrespected in every way possible, Horible things have been said about him, his wife and his daughters. If you truly believe in respecting the office, where were you when Bush was being called Hitler, Stalin, Chimp, and on and on for 8 fucking year. I have listened to this high pitched screeching from shitbags like you and have tolerated it. So you go ahead and weep for poor little Obama. My stance is, he asked for everything he gets.

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism right? Or is it limited to dissent of your opposition?

    “The economy was fine and rolling along, then Bush and the rehuglican congress started messing with it. Look at the mortgage crisis- who was in charge of oversight – rethuglicans.”

    Just because you heard that “really cool guy at the coffee shop” say it does not make it true. First of all as we know know the economy was not just rolling along as we now know. We started this recession last December. It was the catalyst for the housing meltdown.

    The real cause was two fold. First there was a huge push from the left during the ’90’s to strengthen the CRA which is what originally allowed/forced banks to issue NINJA loans in the name of “fairness”. To their discredit the repubs did little to nothing to fight this as they were/are scared shitless of being labeled as “racist”. Second there was a huge demand for mortgage backed securities. Combine greedy politicians with a group of wealthy investors who want something from said politicians and you have a recipe for disaster.

    It was McCain, Bush, John Snow and even Alan Greenspan that sounded the warning bells. Their legislative efforts were blocked in commitee by Democrats.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

    Own it.

  188. We know you don’t give a rat’s ass about the troops or the CIA guys involved

    I care about them, SBP, I just wish they’d come home and stop causing trouble on my dime.

  189. It’s so unprovoked, isn’t it, snippy?

  190. “We’ll still love him [Obama] though.”

    You kinda have to. You went down on him on the first date. Keep sitting by the phone snip. I’m sure he’ll call.

    A mile long runway? In a sparsely populated mountain/ hill backwater like northern Pakistan? To locals, that “runway” is about as noticeable as a boot print on the fucking moon. You’d need a satellite to see it. Kinda like your dumb ass would need a satellite to find a fucking clue. Plus one other thing. The Predator can take off at low speed and is…what are the words I’m looking for…FUCKING QUIET!!!

    Don’t ban snippy. Let him comment daily based on his IQ x 2.

    It’s 6:00PM/Central. So if he’s had more than 18 total posts across the board today, boot him.

  191. What’s that, dan?

    My honest opinion?

  192. Parsnip, youre wrong.
    you wouldnt notice it. Its a fucking airfield that is isolated and designed not to be noticed. also, not much in the way of infrastructure, white people et al.
    cut the partisan shit and start the American stuff, alright?

  193. meya, Re: Paki’s
    deal.

  194. Parsnip here is a handful of voter registration cards and a carton of Kools. You will better help my efforts by getting out there and registering bums than sitting on this message board and revealing the utter idiocy of most of my supporters. See right now all the “cool” kids love me. If idiots like you start becoming the face of my fad, it will only be a matter of time before the “cool” kids realize they are surrounded by a bunch of douchbags.

  195. Is that missing “e” a tell?

  196. Messiahs do not misspell words. That is now just an inoperative statement.

  197. Um,

    The lies are the “partisan” stuff, Mcguber.

    Nobody in Pakistan believes their government doesn’t support the Predator flights…so why blow all the bribe money to perpetuates it?

    As far as nobody noticing a bunch of Americans hanging around an airfield launching very noisy drones with 50ft wingspans…well, that’s just hard to believe.

  198. I just threw up a little in my mouth. I googled messiah to make sure I was spelling it right and the 5th entry was “Is Barak Obama the Messiah?” Sometimes I am even ashamed of my braindead followers.

  199. “As far as nobody noticing a bunch of Americans hanging around an airfield launching very noisy drones with 50ft wingspans…well, that’s just hard to believe.”

    Takes eight people to launch and retrieve that sweet arrow of freedom dumb fuck. It refuels mid-air and can land anywhere. It was on a “strip” in Pakistan 100 miles from the nearest goat trail before Feinstein ran her mouth.

    And our eight people on the ground manning that Predator, what? Stood out as Americans? Dressed in business suits? Wore American Military BDU’s? Flew the American flag over a mud hut? You’re a fucking idiot snippy. An idiot an inch wide and a mile deep.

    Army Delta grew beards to their chests, put on pajamas, fought as Pushtun, advanced when the Mujahadeen pussied out, called in air strikes and, in the battle of Tora Bora, managed in three weeks what the entire Soviet Army couldn’t fucking do in eight years.

    But, six years later, we don’t know how to secretly launch a quiet drone in Pakistan?

    By all means keep going. How stupid do you want to look snippy? If they come up with a credit report for stupid, you’re fucked.

  200. 206 – He just has a different experience around the UAVs than those of us dumb enough to have actually participated in OEF. The Xbox 360 ones must be louder than the real ones I was near.

  201. LTC John,

    It don’t matter Colonel. Snippy could sit under a tree and get pelted with downward falling apples all day and he’d still swear Newton was a just a dirty, jew-funded neo-con, and “gravity” was a manufactured BushHilterBurton lie.

    Easier for them that way.

    If an Iraqi trips, falls out of a Humvee and hits the ground, it’s not gravity. It’s the American Military’s fault.

  202. 50ft wingspans

    Five story wingspans. Million pound chainlink fences held aloft with balloons. Man made mountain ranges. Yahtzee!

  203. OT: I had a bad feeling about precisely this the other day when the story was announced. Anyone know anything about the possibility of laser cannons capable of vaporizing little particles like these in space?

  204. “50ft wingspans”

    We’re launching the Arch Angel Michael against the Taliban?!

    AWESOME!!

  205. Actually parsnotty redeemed hissef with that one, Lamont. It’s previous forays into science must have reformed it.

  206. sdferr, I saw something about that on one of the brain channels (Discovery, SCI, NGC) the other day. Space Command and NORAD can track any “space junk” up to two inches across but, as I understand it, an errant 1/4″ 60 year old screw head from a Gemini mission (roughly the size of a halfway decent booger) traveling 20,000+ mph can ruin a satellite’s whole friggin’ day.

    We’re still perfecting the “hit any missile” thing (and making incredible progress).

    But any lasers we got can’t hit a bullet speed booger in space.

    Yet.

  207. The way I think about them I don’t see any way to deal with them effectively other than vaporizing them. We can’t vacuum them up like dirt on a rug. We can’t gather them up like picking up fallen oranges in a grove. We can’t put something up there to be intentionally struck by them in the hopes of capture, like a catcher receiving a 26Kmph fastball in his mitt. Seems like zapping them is the only thing left.

  208. From a Washington Post article published March 27 of last year:

    Musharraf, who controls the country’s military forces, has long approved U.S. military strikes on his own. But senior officials in Pakistan’s leading parties are now warning that such unilateral attacks — including the Predator strikes launched from bases near Islamabad and Jacobabad in Pakistan – could be curtailed.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/27/ST2008032700935.html

    I’d say this cat was already out of the bag.

  209. Parsnip where did you get that information from? What website linked that? I want to know.

  210. I’ll tell you if you apologize to The Senator first, pinkie.

  211. #194
    Wrong once again. The founders intended them to serve the people. Specifically NOT to be a law unto themselves.Judging from the unpopularity, meaning not popular, of the “stimulous” package with their(democrats) constituancy,(not one CAT worker called the Peoria Republican house member to vote for the stimulous package, but hundreds called asking him not to.)I think stupid remains the the most apt label.

  212. “We strongly object to Sen. Feinstein’s remarks being characterized as anything other than a reference” to an article that appeared last March in the Washington Post, LaVelle said. Feinstein did not refer to newspaper accounts during the hearing.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-uspakistan13-2009feb13,0,4776260.story

    I found the Wapo article on my own.

  213. parsnip doesn’t know crap about what the average Pakistani knows or doesn’t know, and to be fair he wouldn’t care unless there was an obviously partisan reason for him to do so. He’s kind of a cock that way.

    But then you all knew that.

  214. The cat was indeed out of the bag snippy.

    But it wasn’t running around the room.

    You know many Pakistanis that subscribe to the Washington Post?

    Has a different meaning when the Chairwoman of the SSCI drunkenly “spills beans” to the America hating world at large.

    And they hate you too snippy. Sure, they’ll kill you last, because you’re a useful idiot. But they hate, and will kill you just the same.

  215. Haha, give it up, Lamont-Happy.

    You guys are pwned.

    Apologize and move on.

  216. Why didn’t you post the Washington Post link, Purse-snip?

  217. You’re wrong on this one, snitty. Go back to science.

  218. If only those that were affected by this outing were as photogenic as ol’ Valerie, then we could get heartless parsnip to care.

  219. If you do not realize the difference between a news article and a sitting US Senator then you need to stop huffing paint thinner.

  220. Really, Pinkie?

    Do you think some Pakistanis might read the Gulf News?

    http://www.gulfnews.com/World/Pakistan/10201056.html

  221. Such a sad little existence, isn’t it?

    It must be all alone at the home.

  222. The reason I asked you where you found that article is that I am wondering what idiot compares a news article to a statement by a US Senator on the floor. I wanna see who started that idiocy because I really doubt it is you.

  223. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/27/ST2008032700935.html Brief mention about launching from near Islamabad.

    The Gulf News article makes no mention of launches from inside Pakistan. It mentions Musharraf approving strikes, but **not the new Pakistani government**.

    The Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee does not understand that officially highlighting an extremely sensitive program is malfeasant, whether it was mentioned briefly in a (now out-of-date) newspaper article a year ago or not. She does not understand that the offical Pakistani complaints are a useful diplomatic smokescreen, at least tacitly agreed upon by the US and Pakistan. No, she whines about the unfairness of the complaints. It is her job to understand the situation thoroughly, but she does not understand it at all. She must be sitting at the briefings like a stuffed owl, not understanding.

    Extremely stupid person. Maybe she had a small stroke recently. Anyway, in a properly functioning Federal Government, she would be off that committee. Of course, that will not happen

  224. “You guys are pwned.”

    Funny. I don’t feel “pwned.”

    I know you’re an expert at getting “pwned” and all, and it happens to you every five minutes or so,… but no. While I’d like to take your word for “our” getting “pwned”.

    No.

    I’d just rather go ahead and continue embarrassing you.

    Now. Carry on.

  225. Nice try, Lamony-happy.

    Porkulus just passed the Senate, BTW.

  226. Someone from Afghanistan is Afghani, someone from Waziristan is Waziri, and someone from Pakistan is Paki. It is common fucking usage, including among Pakis themselves. Just because some upper crusty British twit at the Guardian decides the term should be offenseive, doesn’t make it so.

    And don’t even get me started on “Haji”.

  227. True enough meya, but the two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

  228. “The founders intended them to be insulated from the people”

    Not really – that would be the House of Lords then.

  229. “Someone from Afghanistan is Afghani, someone from Waziristan is Waziri, and someone from Pakistan is Paki. ”

    No worries. I’m not trying to draw a line in the sand. Just thought folks might like to know. ‘Pak’ or ‘Paks’ is the preferred nomenclature. Unlike Paki or chinaman.

  230. Preferred by whom, may I ask?

  231. And that was how they were to serve the people, by being elected by the state legislatures which were elected by the people. The insulation from the people by this method was meant to provide a more thoughtful moderate approach to changes in government, which is also why the Senate has six year terms instead of two year terms, as in the House. All of which was meant to serve the people.

  232. That’s just vile, meya. Everyone knows they prefer Chinapeople. Labelist.

  233. I read the ToI now and then and don’t begrudge them their use of Pak (saw today, for instance they won some award given out for the outstanding use of plain English, heavens forfend, but yay ToI!), no more than I’m inclined to believe they’d begrudge my use of Paki. As to Chinamen, who cares? And as to Pakistanis, whoever they may be, they’re welcome to begrudge away for all I care, though I don’t for a second think my old linemate Abdul Gafhar from Peshawar would give two shits about it.

  234. Pak’ or ‘Paks’ is the preferred nomenclature.

    I don’t really care what the PC NewSpeak term of the day is, meya.

    Sorry.

  235. Yo, Paks! Stop killing your sisters over teh honor! Dudes!

  236. “I don’t really care what the PC NewSpeak term of the day is, meya.”

    That’s the funny thing. Its not really that PC when you find Indian newspapers using it, knowhatimsayin? Don’t worry. You just didn’t know.

  237. Indian newspapers are the future.

  238. Especially the ones that are printed in Indian.

  239. Its not really that PC when you find Indian newspapers using it, knowhatimsayin?

    Yes, meya, we all know that all those brown people are the same, living together in peace and harmony.

    In particular, the Indians just love the shit out of their brothers to the north.

    And yes, I did know.

    Moron.

  240. Goddamnit, I go away for a minute to watch some Robert Earl Kean and eat some ribs and y’all let this shit just slide on by:

    I’m sure there’s a good chance Obama will pull a Nixon and drag out our wars, SBP.

    We’ll still love him though.

    Why don’t you just get I AM A MERCENARY MOTHERFUCKER tattooed on your forehead, tuber? I mean holy shit, could you be any more worthless?

    Nixon was cool, except for being a Republican and all?

    Christ what a sorry fucking void you are.

  241. #235
    But they’re not maya, they’re elected in general elections by their constituents, whom they serve. Which is irelevant, because it still does not give them license to do stupid things. Commit a felony, even in the course of your senatorial duties, and you’re still accountable.You’re going on about it as if they are some sort of omnicient gods. For the most part they’re a bunch of clueless assholes. Like 52% of the people that voted.

  242. The senate? The founders intended them to be insulated from the people, by having state legislatures elect them rather than be elected democratically.

    The founders intended them to represent their respective states. The House was to represent the people, the Senate the state. This was where the idea of separation of powers originated, regarding the bicameral Congress, not the three branches as it is used now. The idea was for the Senate to protect individual states powers from being usurped by the Federal government, when the Senate went to direct elections, their was no one to protect the rights of the individual states, and as the founders feared, all the power has moved to Washington.

  243. Well B Moe, Nixon did institute Wage and Price controls so he’s got that going for him in the annals of the left. A Hero even, they might say, but for that nasty paranoid streak he had.

  244. I just had a scary thought. maya, you don’t think our rights come from the goveernment, do you?

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