Don’t really link to Pamela much, but this is . . . intriguing:
This is un-frickin-believable. The financial crisis was deliberate, planned, staged. Who made the run? “Someone threw us in the middle of the Atlantic ocean without a life raft. We are trying to determine which is the closest shore and whether there is any chance in the world to swim that far. We don’t know.”
Hello? Senator Leahy? I assume you’ll be looking into this.
No, I don’t buy all of the assumptions, but she’s correct that it had to be concerted.
Democratic Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, one of the negotiators, said 3.5 million jobs will be created by the plan.
Timing, timing, timing.
I question the timing…
Seriously.
Soros?
“So much for history. George Soros is in on the deal to buy IndyMac from the FDIC. Soros has a long history of making loads of money by first creating a financial crisis and then stepping in to grab up the bargains. Perhaps the most famous example of this tactic is “Black Wednesday,” when Soros nearly sunk the entire economy of Great Britain through currency speculation.
George Soros has helped bankroll the campaigns of the Democrats in Congress who created this mess. Now, it appears, he is cashing in on his investment.”
I’ve been positing for some time about the involvement of Soros and his offshore hedge fund buddies trying to work our markets not only to influence the election, but to make a pile in the aftermath. Face it, the guy had no problem with nearly ruining the BoE for his own benefit…
This needs to be looked into by thise that could track the trades. Although admittedly if the cabal had the expertise to pull off something like this, I’m sure they used the Ol’ Chicago tactic, the same one used by Obama during the election to cover his illegal fundraising, of registering the accounts in the names of many minions…
It should be investigated and the withdrawees scrutinized to see if they had any connection at all to Soros or the many political arms he funds. Hell, they could all be employees of Center for American progress, People for the American way, or simply a multitude of the brownshirt operatives who mobilized against any percieved danger to the one! during the campaign…
They need to be checked out to see, if like Rezko’s wife, that there were an inordinately large sums of money flowing around folks that have little wearwithal otherwise or discernable assets…
Pamela’s approaching this from the perspective that some rich Arabs that wanted to see the weakling Obama elected helped Soros do this. I think that it’s not any Bilderburger-esque thing like that…
Just something of a more Illuminati nature…
The timing was all too convenient; at a time when the election was seriously in play following Palin’s debut at the RNC…
I was never one to go in for a conspiracy theories, but this one looks good.
It reeks of bastards bent on our demise from Europe.
thor, does this smell like uncircumcised European dick to you?
I never took that class, so I defer. You’re the expert.
From the NYT, October 20, 2008:
“Customers who are suing the Reserve Fund have asked a federal judge to allow the release of audio tapes of calls that the fund’s sales staff made to customers on Sept. 15, the day before the money market fund’s share price fell below a dollar.”
Plaintiffs allege that Bruce Bent’s people warned their big institutional investors that the Fund was going to break the buck due to its heavy investments in Lehman. If those institutional fund managers thought that other funds were in similar danger, there’s every reason to believe that they decided to cash out until things settled down.
Insider trading? Perhaps. We’ll see what turns up in court. But I hardly think this has Soros’ or the oil sheiks’ fingerprints on it.
There’s a reason one should be careful about linking to Pamela. She’s fine for a weekend fling, but I wouldn’t want to settle down with her.
If only President Hoover wanted to redistribute some of Soros’ wealth…
Point taken Squid,
But why didn’t they simply continue the heavy withdrawls in the days immediately following the treasury’s suspension of the activity?
Seems to me the Gov. stepped in to create FDIC type backing for the MM funds which up til then were lacking, thus removing the primary reason for people to worry to the point of pulling their money out, Bob.
Most money market funds weren’t heavily invested in Lehman Brothers, and so their losses were manageable. If the fund managers were able to communicate their positions to their customers, that would ease the panic.
Bear in mind that the “suspicious activity” reported by Pamela was the same day that Lehman went down. I’m not sure if you guys remember that week, but the failure of Lehman was a pretty big damn deal in the financial world. I’m not at all surprised that people were engaging in some panic and some ass-covering, what with the world falling down around their ears.
Chase down shadowy figures all you like, but me and my buddy Occam will be over here pointing at the once-proud Lehman and the once-proud Reserve as the simplest explanation for that day’s activity.
Democratic Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, one of the negotiators, said 3.5 million jobs will be created by the plan.
That many paid campaign workers?
Isn’t the Soros cabal thingy called the Democracy Alliance? But yeah I think Squid is on the right track – there were I think two money market funds (managed by the same entity I think) that broke the buck and it was what that triggered the run on MM deposits. Oh. Just read this. That Atlas lady is sorta… God love her.
oh… *that what* not what that… I have to get back to my report now.
hysterical was the olden days word.
oh. Der. Squid explained everything at #5 and I are redundant. Okey dokey then. I really should be getting back to my report now.
What Pamela is getting at, and pointing to a right or wrong entity, is someone had to throw the original “blood in the water” to start the frenzy. Someone substantial and who would be considered “in the know” by the big institutional players. A Madoff type, trusted for being trusted by everyone important, but who has another agenda. One that is at odds with the institutional guys.
Treasury’s suspension may have given time to talk the big players into not destroying things and show them that they had been used.
That whole goddamned mark to market accounting rule change really was a doozy, wasn’t it? Seems like changing the rules in the middle of the game never really works out all that well.
Ich bin der Squid!
Oh, and thanks to everyone for being (mostly) sane and civil. I’m dead terrified of pouring cold water on the gang over at Pam’s.
#9 Squid,
My slow typing screws me again. Thanks for that explanation.
If I were to look for some sorta conspiracy stuff, I’d focus on the run up in crude. I think that’s sorta sketch how that happened.
The cold water? Don’t do it Squid, let them have their few hours chase after monsters, it’ll do ’em good working off all that excess energy.
So is Obama in on it, or did he come baby nap clean from the Manger/Stock Yards in Chicago?
What?
Have you ever tried to get a room in Chicago on short notice?
It’s impossible. His virgin mother (who no one’s ever seen read or heard about in real life) would have only had a stall in the Chicago manger/stock yards available that blessed night. Then the super jesus was immediately transported by God to Hawaii (better weather and super christ deserved gold, frankincense, muhr…a floral lai) Then the uber messiah was whisked to some shitty 3rd world country on purpose for some reason. It’s this whole thing. Like Homer’s Odyssey, but much more boring.
I’m sure someone is working up the New, NEW Testament to explain it right now.
Don’t ask me. “Julio” is the One’s prophet apparently. Ask him. He knows the story.
He works at the McDonalds on 4th and Main somewhere in Florida.
Does the “Sermon on the Mount II” happen at the Typhoon Lagoon or the Animal Kingdom® Park? Very little high ground in FL.
“Democratic Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, one of the negotiators, said 3.5 million jobs will be created by the plan.”
Now that’s rich.
I tipped $10 bucks on a $26 dollar bill at Chili’s today. A stupid thing to do (but she was cute). Obama is cute. So by your math, that tip I left will go forward in 100,000 ways and create 3.5 million jobs?
Do I have that right? I mean a butterfly flaps it’s wings in China and then a hurricane hits the Caribbean, right? That’s pretty much what your trying to sell us?
Good Lord.
At least the waitress at Chili’s brought me a fucking chicken sandwich for my money.
The Messiah works in mysterious ways, Lamont.
I hope you got video, that’d be worth a fortune.
What? Oh.
Never mind.
OK gang, trust me when I say that I’m no tin hat wearing conspiracy trooooooofer!…
I followed all of the events closely at that time, admittedly as a dilletante, but admit that events were so hot and heavy that I won’t dispute your memory or expertise. And I do admit that Pamela at AS is excitable. But I do remember thinking at the time that it was awfully convenient for it to be happening in such a way as to reinfirce the emoty “failed policies of the last 8 years” rhetoric virtually ensure putting Obama over the top…
I’ll have to look into the record on events more closely, mull it over, and get back to you on that…
But it is not beyond reason to think that forces that wished to influence the US election would attempt to drive the market down and sow even more fear and chaos into an already uncertain environment…
Me? I chalk it up to McCain being a shitty candidate.
Here’s the FDIC site exlplaining what they do, and do not, insure…
http://www.fdic.gov/consumers/consumer/information/fdiciorn.html
But then there is this:
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/investing/20081017-money-fund-guarantees-a1.asp
So you are right Sdferr, there was a temporary insurance offered that most funds purchased…
There’s that whole factor too Kelly…
But prior to the melt-down the election was running amazingly close
Now Bob, don’t go selling the effect of Palin’s interview with Couric on the polls short.
“I hope you got video, that’d be worth a fortune.”
A gentleman doesn’t record video.
But I do have glossy black & white photos.
I’m classy like that.
“The Messiah works in mysterious ways, Lamont.”
Don’t capitalize that “M” in messiah, kelly.
Obama’s store-bought, poorly constructed ego is friggin’ big enough at is is.
He can have all the blowjobs he wants from Helen Thomas (EWWWW!)
I, for one, will dutifully continue to read PW.
And think deeply about Megyn Kelly’s body of work on FoxNews.
Alone.
In my bunk.
“Palin’s interview with Couric”
Yeah…
Couric: “You are so good looking Mr. Obama (giggle), what’s your favorite color? Do I look fat in this skirt?”
Couric: “Mrs. Palin, if that is in fact your real name, and you are actually “married,” and your “supposed” children are actually your own…who is 42nd in line to the King of Sweden?”
Couric: What newspapers and magazines did you read regularly before becoming McCain’s running mate to stay informed and to understand the world.
Palin: I’ve read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Couric: What, specifically?
Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.
Couric: Can you name a few?
Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn’t a foreign country, where it’s kind of suggested, “Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?†Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.
In a few sentences, John McCain’s chance of becoming president ended.
As for the withdrwals, is it now a crime to take your money out of a money market account?
I hadn’t heard that.
Of course you hadn’t heard it — if for no other reason than that no one ever said it, moron.
I’m sorry, I don’t speak Parsi.
“I’m sorry, I don’t speak Parsi.”
It’s a sub-dialect of the foreign language “Stupid.” Normally you don’t hear it outside of San Francisco, but, once Obama came on the scene, Rosetta Stone saw a market and, well…here we are.
Comment by parsnip on 2/11 @ 5:16 pm #
Who the fuck takes fucking Katie Colic seriously?
Except for alpo, I mean.
*giggle* translates from Parsi as “I wish these big bullies would stop humiliating me”
Well it is getting time to stock the mountain cabin with guns, ammo, food and Goldstein’s Everclear Conservative Moonshine, guaranteed to wipe the Pelosi right out of you. Or at least blur it.
As if Pam Geller isn’t a “Neocon Zionist” herself, meya-dupe.
Remember, one Couric is two and a half pounds of excrement.
“In a few sentences, John McCain’s chance of becoming president ended.”
Interesting double standard being employed by a supposedly informed and intelligent electorate. Biden’s “painful imbecility” (a term used to describe an American political figure who was anything but an imbecile, but which is a far more apt description of Biden) is evident, and through much more than a “few sentences.”
But just TRY to get 4 Courics in a 5 lb. sack.
You get a thor.
Comment by Crimso on 2/11 @ 5:46 pm #
And never forget O’s “Wizard of Uhs” performances.
Goldstein’s Moonshine has ankle catches, triangles, arm bars, rear naked chokes and a crazy classical liberal fucking off in it.
And iodine.
And a monkey.
And a US Marine.
Ah, who am I kidding?
That’s some good shit.
Stock up Joe.
Strange “Jew” who worked for both the Nazis and the Commies. Whosoever’s boots were the biggest. Worships power and money, not God. A good socialist through and through.
New Hampshire fucks voting for McCain and the dumbdouche shitbags who allow Democrats to elect the Republican nominee in that whore-cunt of a state is the problem, along with Iowa.
And a lot of other states too, come to think of it.
Get the 5 gal. jerry cans. In a pinch it’ll power the hummer too.
Famous examples of Parsi:
“Deficits are bad. Except when they are not.”
“I hate Jews, particularly those that fight back.”
“I have no friends so I provoke attention from people that despise me. It’s all I really have.”
“She aint gonna say ‘The Joooos’ is she?”
No. That’s the Ron Paul nuts…and Obama supporters.
She’s neither.
Have fun meya.
Want me to Google Obama/Hamas?
You won’t like it.
Soros is a Jew now, huh? LOL. Great.
So Judas had a son and created a genealogy before he hung himself.
Good to know.
Nipply is still alive?
I can’t understand it. The “Old People Must Die to Save Money for the Holy State” memo went out from Obamalot several days ago.
Nipply, don’t make them send the Sandman after you. Plastic Jesus might not be able to afford wagyu steak if too many people do that.
Yer Frost/Nixon reference says a lot.
“Nixon’s the One” who took us off the Gold Standard. Is there no end to the toxicity of Republican Leadership(?)?
How long before the Karmic residue of Reagan and the Bush Boys subsides? Hint; What’s the half-life of Plutonium?
Soros got his start stealing the property of Jews who’d been sent to the camps.
So no, I don’t think he’s much of a Jew, regardless of his birth status.
“Soros is a Jew now, huh? LOL. Great.”
What?
How dare you speak ill of Vice President Spongebob Hairplugs!?
Seriously, if we don’t eventually see him hanging out at a fast-food joint with an irascible mollusk and a slacker starfish, I’ll be astonished.
No worries. The 2nd American Revolution begins this summer. June, July, mebbe. Chaos and destruction, coming soon to a neighborhood near you. There will be a “John Brown” moment this year. (That’s a metaphor. Please, don’t expect some idiot to take over a military ammo dump.)
Only it won’t be the revolution that Obama and his evil little zombies had in mind.
Not a case of any real purpose or intent on anyone’s part. More a matter of “…’round and ’round she goes and where she stops, nobody knows…”
History. You can see the future from back there… Basically, the ‘same shit, different day’ sort of a thing.
‘Problem is, most Americans are kinda stuck with an attitude I refer to as “The Middle Class Syndrome.” Nothing bad can ever happen to them, you see. By extension of the insanity involved (denial of reality and of past history), nothing like “that,” whatever “that” happens to be, can ever happen in America. Other than as an intellectual exercise, most cannot comprehend utter and complete failure or true hardship and suffering. That sort of thing always happens to someone else. …or, at least, like little kids, they can always blame it on someone else.
Soros, schmoros. Look inna mirror.
Classical liberals blame no one else for the problems they’ve created for themselves or for problems that they sat around moaning and groaning about, while doing nothing to prevent or alleviate those problems.
Acquit yourselves like men and women of courage and honor. …or the America you’ve always told yourselves that you know and love will disappear forever.
““Nixon’s the One†who took us off the Gold Standard”
yea i liked it better when fdr woke up and decided what the price of gold should be
slacker starfish
Great. More jargon for alppuccino to explain.
Still bitter SBP?
Ageism and anti-Semitism in a single thread!
Nice work, Rush will be proud of you.
Still don’t see the crime in these withdrawals yet.
Anyone?
Bitter, nipply?
Not at all. I’m chortling at the thought of you dying, alone, from something that’s easily treatable.
You asked for it, you got it, fuckstain.
The only “ageism” here is on the part of your hero Plastic Jesus, who doesn’t think old people should get the medical treatment they need.
Own it, bitch.
Uriah Heep.
“But just TRY to get 4 Courics in a 5 lb. sack.”
Are you kidding?
Hell, just try to get one of Couric’s cankles in a 5lb sack.
There better be (off break) union teamsters around.
And a runner from CBS.
That went to Harvard.
“Still don’t see the crime in these withdrawals yet.”
Greed is good. Obama hasn’t come down from the mountain with
those tablets, yet. So, for now, no crime shall be punished before it’s time.
Shorter Snippy:
“Waaaah, you are an anti-semite!”
Don’t be bitter because you keep getting schooled in arguments by conservatives, Snippy. Be bitter because you are a friendless loser!
I do find: more LYBD = a really good thread.
I do find: more LYBD = a really good thread.
I agree.
If you are stupid enough to trust a Democrat Libtard, you deserve to get azz-raped. There is NOTHING decent about Marxist baby killing libtards.
“There is NOTHING decent about Marxist baby killing libtards.”
be nice please you are talking about the president. beside he didn’t want to punish his daughters.
Let’s get this straight: Some Bush appointees stopping people from legitimately taking money out of their accounts 5 months ago = Obama Is A Marxist!!111!!!1
Keep up the good work guys.
America will trust you next election for sure.
For example PARTNSIPPED is clearly retarded and MARI is a libtard douche bag talking about Rush Limbaugh’s marriages as Ted Kennedy skates after killing a women.
Liberals are immoral and retarded.
Hadn’t seen Mari around here for a while.
Won’t be seeing her again for a while, either. ‘Hammered.
Libtards are stupid enough to talk about divorce as the blue dress still has the JIPE stain on it.
Libs are immoral and they know it. PARTSNIPPED is not only immoral but a moron. But a fun moron.
Mari and Meya share an IP addie. Canberra.
Mari, was probably off on a foreign abortion mission.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED MARI?
Hey, no more fucking cracks about Sarah Palin.
Fixed.
Ouch the triple LIBTARD WHAMMMIE!! STUPID/IMMORAL/COWARDLY.
Did I mention dishonest?
Not surprised, Dan.
I think it’s one of those things where drinks 1-4 she’s meya, 5-6 it’s unstable, and over 6 means full-on Mari.
Sounds like Ted Kennedy. Hic.
Why would someone change names just to annoy people online? Seems like a pathetic life if you ask me.
Soros, playing games with worldwide financial markets? Say it ain’t so!
If so, his back should be up against a concrete wall. Or dangling from a white oak tree, Tom Dooley style.
Comment by Semanticleo on 2/11 @ 6:10 pm #
Do you speak English?
My guess is that it was triggered deliberately when Obama’s numbers were tanking, but the overall effect wasn’t deliberate – at least not in the sense of “trying to wreck the economy.”
“What’s the half-life of Plutonium?”
2010?
Liberals know they are dishonest. It’s funny to challenge one of these dimwits here. They respond either drunk or emotional. The left is so stupid it has to lie cheat and steal. And they do.
I like it when they talk about Rush Limbaugh. Those are the really really dim bulbs. Yeah, libs are easy. Especially the women, but then they have to be easy, because they are not attractive.
Am I right about this friends?
“at least not in the sense of “trying to wreck the economy.—
‘
“Greed is Good” does not have the goal of wrecking the economy, but if it happens, it’s not the GreedHead’s fault.
““What’s the half-life of Plutonium?â€Â
2010?”
Private school prodigy…….
libocrat, it depends on what you mean. Did you read the comments in the Ashley Judd post?
#72. Parsnip, although I often disagree with you, wrt statement, in the way that Democrats often ignore reality in favor of their ideologies and fantasies, the conservatives and independents do the same.
In the current discussion, many overlook that fact that the FDIC didn’t actually offer anyone their money, for example, when IndyMac failed, particularly those who tried to withdraw their own cash and savings. What they received instead was a government IOU. It wasn’t until weeks afterward that anyone could do anything with the Feds IOUs…
As with Democrats and independents in other like arguments, many of them will now begin to try to defend such actions on the part of the Fed…while also complaining that the Fed shouldn’t be so involved in the private affairs of it’s citizens.
In most cases, I don’t think that it’s outright hypocrisy. Just confusion. Most people have never thought through the logical and rational implications or the real world consequences of the things they choose to believe.
Left, right and center, they claim freedom, but choose to interfere in the private lives of their fellows, and as an unintended consequence, actually advocate for more government interference in their own private lives in the process.
We have become slaves and serfs not only to the inimitable “PTB,” we have become slaves to our own fleeting passions and desires. We are no longer a nation of principle. We are become a nation of children and of slaves. While children always expect someone else to be responsible for them, slaves always allow others to tell them what to think and when to think it, in the end, tyrannizing their freedom-seeking peers with tales of fear and promises of punishment.
As for men like Soros, I’ve reached a point where I say, “Let him take it down. Let it all burn, that in the process of rebuilding and recovery that we might once again discover those things that cannot be consumed by fire, that is, freedom and liberty for each man and his home.”
Government has never been greed in all of history nope no sir. Government in all it’s forms has proven time and time again to be invulnerable to greed, avarice, corruption, and abuses of power. Let us once again return to a time where our Government had total power. Let us elect Obama king
Umm, I am so not meya.
Hey Danny, remember when you stayed up all night at Tbogg?
Umm, I am so not meya.
Irrelevant. You’re gone for me. Bye.
#71
Comment by Mari on 2/11 @ 6:34 pm #
Party of Rush: A bloated, thrice-divorced, Oxy-addicted underage-sex tourist will now determine your future.
How proud you must be.
Yeah. Kinda. he did it all with his own money
But tell me mari. If I can paraphrase Milton Friedman, what makes a politicians greed any more noble than a CEOs?
Oh, it’s an anonymouse.
I am pretty sure we can run the generator on Goldstein’s Moonshine, but we will have to ration use. Must make sure there is enough on hand for…medicinal purposes.
I feel a Pelosi Migraine coming on! Quick Garson Green, fetch me a libation to make all these bad Pelosi Reid thoughts go away.
I just love the way these people assume that we’re all Limbaugh fans.
It’s a side effect of their religious belief in Plastic Jesus, I reckon.
Plastic Jesus has declared Limbaugh to be Satan. We disagree with Plastic Jesus’ policies. Therefore we must be devil worshipers. Therefore, we must be Limbaugh groupies.
You know, if I were an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient being like His Holiness Barack Hussein Obama, I wouldn’t spend too much worring about a fat man with a radio program.
“A bloated, thrice-divorced, Oxy-addicted underage-sex tourist will now determine your future.”
I bought an annuity based off back room advice from a conservative guy just like that back in 2003.
Made money every year since. Made 16% on that annuity in 2008.
How’d your market investments do in 2008 Mari? How bout you thor?
Oh, nevermind. I see your mouths are filled with bureaucratic cock, stimulus, and red tape.
I bet it tastes like chalk.
Has Obama at least payed for ya’lls gas and mortgage yet?
Awwww… that’s too bad.
I see parsnip is still clinging to his hope of making Rush the new super villain. Easier than having to think about what a horrible job his party is doing at governing this nation.
Then again, who am I to complain, one person was given a house so that we could all see what a freaking mecca this land has become.
Warren,
Allowing banks to operate under the assumption that no group of people will want to take out a large amounts of money on the same day is…risky.
If the government is willing to step in to stop it from happening, why don’t they step in to solve similar problems, like when too many Americans decide to use the same stretch of road at the same time?
“Private school prodigy…….”
I am so telling the Episcopalians you said that.
Comment by Semanticleo on 2/11 @ 6:51 pm #
Do you speak English?
parsnip, that is asinine.
For one thing, do you even know how a bank works? You do understand that it isn’t at all like the plastic pig you had filled with nickels when you were a kid? Or the one you use to cheat with in Monopoly?
And is “like when too many Americans decide to use the same stretch of road at the same time” just an overblown way to say ‘traffic’?
Except when he’s invoked by trolls here, when does anyone mention Rush on this site?
pledge,
I see the government, no matter who runs it, is always willing to step in whenever rich people screw up.
…an overblown way to say ‘trafficjam’
But who cares if the little man has to sit in traffic for a couple hours while his dinner gets cold?
No one cares, except ‘the little man’. I do not care if ‘the little man’ ever eats his dinner.
All that the government wants is an excuse to feed.
You know, if Mari_san were really interested, pledge, it could use the search feature. Then it could read a bit. Then it could find out how we hang on Rush Limbaugh’s every word.
I blame FDR, Mari.
“Which Democratic president do you blame for our current economic”
i blame the pelosi-reid congress. f^^kin up since 2006.
Anyone else curious how all the “new” folks who act so mendaciously as to get ‘hammered know to change their names to get around it?
“Which Democratic president do you blame for our current economic set-back prior to Obama actually taking office?”
carter, clinton and cra
Anyone who uses the term “socialist” outside of its actual definition is, by default, a ditto head.
“Allowing banks to operate under the assumption that no group of people will want to take out a large amounts of money on the same day is…risky.”
That’s one of every American bank’s fucking OPERATING PRINCIPLES you, possibly, unfathomable, dumbfuck.
American roads? That’s you’re analogy?
You are too stupid too ride this ride.
Get off. And. Get out.
Whereas you’re uniquely fuckheaded, Mari.
Take your pointless bile and spew it somewhere else. You’re done here.
I saw It’s a Wonderful Life, Lamont-happy.
I’m just saying the principles under which our banks operate under are stupid and will lead to the collapse of many if not most of them.
Already has.
And you and I end up paying for it, not the bankers.
Well, the intermediate goal of progressive liberals (on the way to the worker’s paradise) is socialism. Its a fair way to refer to your overall policies.
I have never listened to Rush live. I watched a few of his teevee shows way back when. I watched his interview with Ann Coulter.
I like the fact that he annoys the hell out of progressives. Otherwise, I don’t know what he’s doing. Which is probably very similar to most people here. Anyone accusing the commenters here as being in lockstep with any political figure, let alone the host or each other, is a lazy thinker.
Mari you say that anyone who uses the term socialist is an Obama fan right? Well I have discovered anyone that labels people “Ditto-heads”, calling Rush Limbaugh a bloated fat drug addict, and begins conversations with how much she hates Sarah Palin is usually a Kos reading communist who blames off of their life’s ills on the Republican party. I have tested my hypothesis and have it to be true in 95% of cases.
I’d say “the intermediate goal of progressive liberals” is to help out the poor and unfortunate ones who live amongst us cranky.
Just like Jesus asked them to.
Excuse me not Obama fan I ment a Rush Limbaugh listener and follower. Sorry my bad. Although that does bring to mind the projection it takes to on one hand wear an Obama t-shirt around chanting a politicians name at rallys, and then accuse people you think are your politicians political enemies as being “followers”.
“Which Democratic president do you blame for our current economic set-back prior to Obama actually taking office?â€Â
Billy (fat intern) Blowjob Clinton, 100%
G.W. (your’re anti-christ), not only pulled it back but ponied up a sweet DOW in the years after a…NATIONAL FUCKING CATASTROPHE!!!!!
Ya know. Right up until you’re golden calf Obama’s deciples took over in 2006.
Shit went down hill from there for some reason. Go figure.
But hey! Super, half-black-commie jesus is rockin’ Air Force One now.
We’re saved.
God, I miss the days when L. Ron Hubbard nuts were the definition of crazy.
Cranky didn’t say it parsnip. I did.
*giggle*
And Jesus had a different idea of what charity meant, one that would be quite alien to you.
“Just like Jesus asked them to.”
yea Jesus was a statist demorat just ask pontius
Jesus. Look at this lying moronic piece of shit talking about Jesus. Worse it wants to run your banks because it knows so goddamn much about banks. Oh, and human nature. Just the ticket for a final fail.
In the steelcage political world of the left you have to, are required to, find a leader figure. Invest all your heart/body/mind/soul in their every word and deed. Defend them, always, violently, completely. They are your very essence.
That we don’t is confusing to them and so they continue to throw out names, hoping to find out that secret leader that we must have somewhere.
Regarding traffic patterns, has anyone read the Bill of Rights, lately? I mean, past the first three or four? That is, assuming that we don’t regard the Constitution as something more fluid that it was meant to be.
As regards men like Soros and financial obligations, how many of you have participated in the very system which makes such men possible? How many of you have mortgages? Credit card debt? School loans? At heart, by taking advantage of such available credit, you also bear more than a little responsibility for our nation’s present economic situation. While at the same time, you decry the very institutions that made your present credit-based lifestyle possible. Instead of deferring any of your plans for your life and working, saving and preparing for the achievement of your goals at a later time in your lives, your desire was to use such government incentives and programs and banking institutions to get what you wanted, when you wanted it, just the way that you wanted it.
Which leaves the door completely open for men like Soros to take advantage not only of your situation, but of your nation and it’s people.
I must warn you that the days of sunshine patriots, and of the fulfillment of every passion for instant gratification, the desire of small children everywhere, is nearly over.
I’d say “the intermediate goal of progressive liberals†is to help out the poor and unfortunate ones who live amongst us cranky.
Just like Jesus asked them to.
Sure, that Jesus was a big proponent helping the poor by forcible reallocation of assets from the rich and middle class. The New Testament as translated by Marx and Engels.
“Geez. I didn’t realize Rush was such a sore spot.”
i’ve never heard the man say he gets a “tingle in his leg” about a politician. back to you obamavoter
I think I’m going to start listening to Rush, because I suspect it will make alphie cry.
Hey, parsnip, or thor, or whoever, I dare you to say something snarky to Warren.
DOUBLE
DOG
DARE
you.
Warren, what kind of apocalypse/catastrophe are you talking about..?
Please be more clear so that if it all comes to pass we may appreciate your prescience…
Are you speaking analogously of a political dilemma?
Or are you speaking literally? And how do you come to these conclusion..?
No snark, no offense; I’m just curious…
it is raining here. when is O! going to make the waters in the creek stop rising?
Mari-san, KO was a self-absorbed douche when he was still recapping Kansas City Royals games.
KO is turning into a self-absorbed douche
Turning into a self-absorbed douche? Olbergasm was born that way, and has only gotten worse.
I watch Rachel Maddow once in a while, she seems to be fairly honest and a good interviewer.
I would be interested to know your standards for an honest and good interviewer. Only with a Leftist dictionary could someone describe Maddow in such a way.
Are Mari and meya ever anything less than menfelcheous?
Which Democratic president do you blame for our current economic set-back prior to Obama actually taking office?
Why do our trolls have such a hard time with this concept?:
The Constitution mandates that ALL APPROPRIATIONS originate in The House of Representatives.
They just can’t seem to grasp that. Nor can the average voter, apparently.
Bad news parsnip. That Jesus thing? Yeah, he wasn’t a community organizer. He motivated the Holy Spirit out of 12 dudes, and influenced the heck out of a few thousand others out in the boondocks (2000 years later you and yours call it “Jesus Land.”)
But the “community?”
Yeah, the “community” showed up in a mob and chanted, “Barabas, Barabas…Crucify Him! Crucify Him!”
Tell Susan Sarandon, will ya?
To be fair to the trolls, a good many amongst us work under the assumption that president = king.
Well, Warren, there’s that, but unless one is born with the proverbial silver spoon, then scratching and clawing up the financial walls requires some available credit. School loans? The best ROI you can get is time spent in classes. Unless scholarships or parents paid the way, student loans are a basic need.
There’s a world of difference between those who wisely manipulate the system to get some small advantages and those who live on maxed-out credit cards and evenly space their bankruptcies. I’ll fault the high rollers who game the system, but not the average JTP who’s just making do (hopefully) ithout maximizing credit risks, just because it’s available.
Guys, and gals. When parsnip is being particularly mendoucheous, just go to http://www.urbandictionary.com, and look up some of the definitions for parsnip. It make this troll far more tolerable.
Questions.
Who the hell listens to NPR to know “NPR reports deal reached?” I’ve seriously tried since I was in my mid 30’s, some of it I can deal with. But I just can’t afford to dose off like that anymore.
About Limbaugh — “Oh, I really don’t listen to him.” ….. A little shakiness in the ranks? Some starting to think their on the wrong side of the skank parade in Washington?
Why do we bother with parsnip?
And why is it I get the feeling that there are really only about 10 people total opposed to the coming Marxist takeover and making nasty phone calls to their Congressman? And why is it when and if there is a plan to “march on Washington” I get the feeling those same 10 people will be the only one there?
147. dose = doze
I just listen to NPR for the music.
Pat Buchanan (who I actually admire for some reason)
Because he is a fascist.
Like you.
Bye again.
Contrast this to Rush, who has debated exactly zero opposing views
You have never ever listened to his show, have you? We will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are ignorant, rather than a liar.
MSNBC uses Buchanon as a charicature of what they believe a conservative Republican to be, rather than the frothing asshat that he is.
“Comment by parsnip on 2/11 @ 7:36 pm #
I’d say “the intermediate goal of progressive liberals†is to help out the poor and unfortunate ones who live amongst us cranky.”
Nope, wrong again, alpo.
Reactionary leftists want political power.
That’s it.
The so called “concern”?
Bullshit. Camaflugy.
Power hungry thugs, alpo, and you’re too much of a retarded marmoset to understand that.
Anybody read this?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aVUE96d.HKyw
Why do you people hate marmosets ?
Mari-san is snippy embracing his feminine side.
Sorry, had to go on an errand.
I amde more money than Soros before I delivered myself by Caesarean.
It’s retarded marmosets I hates, JD.
Ignorant little suckers, breaking into public librarys, using free internet to disrupt adults conversing on blogs.
Well, like alfie.
….and whore.
how you amde money?
Comment by router on 2/11 @ 8:38 pm #
MD 20/20
#136. @Bob.
I have a list of references and resources, Bob. You know. Scholars and scientists and such. I don’t always agree with scholars and scientists and such, but in this case, there’s a lot of proofs and evidences to consider.
Start with indicators like this:
See:
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=996#comment-6211
http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1600656.html
TAhen we go to things like this:
THE RISE AND FALL OF CIVILIZATIONS
December 2001
By Joseph M. Miller, Daan Joubert, Marion Butler
Empires with Expiration Dates
By Niall Ferguson
September/October 2006
The Rise and Decline of the State
Martin van Creveld
World Trade Order and the Beginning of the Decline of the Washington Consensus
Howard Wachtel
Beyond the Nation-State: National Identity and Citizenship in a Multicultural Society – A Response to Rex
by Gerard Delanty
Decentralization, Corruption And Government Accountability: An Overview
Pranab Bardhan and Dilip Mookherjee
‘The Third Wave’
By Alvin Toffler
Eight hundred years of financial folly
Carmen M. Reinhart
Paul Saffo Predicts End Of U.S. Economic Model
By Adario Strange
Known Unknowns: Unconventional “Strategic Shocks” in Defense Strategy
Development
Authored by Mr. Nathan P. Freier.
The Past and Future of America’s Economy: Long Waves of Innovation
that Drive Cycles of Growth (Edward Elgar, 2005)
Learning from Failure
Property Rights, Land Reforms, and the Hidden Architecture of Capitalism
By Craig J. Richardson
Civil War Two
by Thomas W. Chittum
(A bit dated and somewhat racist, but his scenarios are worth examination.)
‘Endogenous innovation waves and economic growth’
“Social Wave-Front Analysis”
‘Long Waves of Innovation’
‘Long Waves in Economics and International Politics’
‘Elliot Waves and Civilization.’
‘THE BIG PICTURE: RESOURCE COLLAPSE’
See also:
Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America.
by Radley Balko
I got more if’n ya want or need ’em.
Lots more…
Heh.
“Revelation”. The last word.
151.
Old news ‘within the biz’, brm, and not that uncommon. There are significant numbers of ‘libertarians’ in the industry, but they tend to get on with making money rather than social activism.
Regarding what looks like astounding gains, if he started the fund with $10m, 870% growth is not very unusual, but for established funds with serious money under management, it’s almost impossible. That $10m was probably seed capital from Lahde himself or some sweetheart investor whose risk tolerance was high – that or Lahde himself decided to do some very risky trading. The ‘I was in this for money’ is itself a bit of a money quote – he was almost certainly trading that money in a horribly exposed manner. But when the original seed was ‘only’ $10m, he didn’t have a lot to lose.
The whole “Let Soros and a cabal of smart people run the world” is the kind of claptrap I’d expect from someone who spends too much time watching a trading scheme who sees people as the dumb automatons that constitute ‘The Street”. It’s possible that the guy is more ‘libertine dilletente’ though, which would explain the whole ‘legalize dope’ trip.
Rest assured, this guy would almost certainly have crashed and burned within a few years. Reversion to mean is a bitch and everyone has to pay the piper sometime. He got out at the right time.
I “amde” more money than thor before he caesareaned himself out of that Uzbekistani goat.
I worked the sweet currency angle like you would have done thor.
I bought you from the goat and I traded you for an underweight mallard duck in Belarus.
That duck bought me two miles in a cab.
Two miles closer to the airport.
I had kept your dignity, and rode it hard the rest of the way to the airport.
It died right there at the gate.
Damn shame.
OMG, do what you can ton stop horrible shit.
damned boxed wine.
Party Government, Patronage, and Party Decline in Western Europe
Author: Blondel, Jean
The Rise and Decline of Nations
Mancur Olson
DECLINE of EMPIRES: The Signs of Decay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2CCs-x9q9U
Long Waves in Economics and International Politics
http://faculty.washington.edu/krumme/207/development/longwaves.html
Financial Markets and the Singularity
Peter Thiel
http://agonist.org/gordonmcmillan/20070531/kevin_phillips_lifecycle_of_empire
Kevin Phillips’ Lifecycle of Empire
THE PENTAGON’S NEW MAP
BY THOMAS P.M. BARNETT, U.S. NAVAL WAR COLLEGE
Bonesteel we are trying to amde money here
Oh noes!! Warren found footnotes!
And Google!
Please Warren. We “want and need lot’s more” of shit you’ve never read.
Haven’t read a one of ’em, Warren.
Lamont-Happy and Makewi,
Perhaps you could let us know what Jesus thinks the maximum tax rate should be?
And how much money he thinks the government should spend helping the poor each year?
Feel free to round your answers.
No need for us to get caught up on the little stuff.
Actually, Lamont, you big dummy, it’s lots of shit I’ve read that you haven’t.
Oh. My. God.
Warren has found a website that “lists” stuff!
It even has some of the authors!
We are all horribly put in our pl…
Goddammit.
(sorry, spilled my beer)
Ok.
What were we talking about?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 2/11 @ 8:48 pm #
Did you get to ride in any Russian fighter jets?
parsnip, you haven’t said anything to Warren yet. You scared?
Ohh, let me!*
Ahhh master, are you free from the system yourself?
No credit?
No 401/k?
No savings?
No tax plan?
OK, personally I don’t have a credit problem, but DAMN I hate to see my private, Wall Street based pension plan take a shit.
I think Mr. Bonehead is being pretty harsh on people that have been following the American dream by the rules.
*(snarky enough for ya?)
For the non-snarky version, refer to #143 by serr*d
oops, that’s serr8d of course…
I listen to Rush every chance I get.
I assume that’s every day, unless noon to three is prime panhandling time.
What were we talking about?
Look, bunnies!
“And how much money he thinks the government should spend helping the poor each year?”
only a statist demorat would view Jesus in such terms
Sorry, Serr*d. Stepped away do dishes, and the 16 yr old hopped in. Not a good typist, but you better hope agaist hope that she can pay off this pinata, which is what it really is.
“Actually, Lamont, you big dummy, it’s lots of shit I’ve read that you haven’t.”
LOL.
Well color me intimidated.
Uh oh. Now you can’t say shit about it liberal.
I’m “colored.”
Find your way out of that maze bookworm.
So how much money do you spend every year helping the poor, alpo?
Taxes don’t count.
On four different threads over 5the last week, I’ve offered my own opinions on the data available to me. Today I provided a mere glimpse into the data those opinions are based upon.
The resources I’ve shared above are by credible people, professionals, educators, businessmen… For example, Joseph M. Miller retired as a board member (and HMFIC) of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. One of his associates is a physicist who worked for Control Data Corporation. The other, Marion Butler, has a background as a CFO. Niall Ferguson holds a Chair in the history department at Harvard. Pranab Bardhan is a professor of economics at Berkley. Carmen M. Reinhart is a professor of economics at the University of Maryland. Most of the other resources were prepared by people with similar backgrounds. Individually and as a group, their work appears to lead to the same general conclusion. In one of the YouTube videos, you’ll find David Walker, the former Comptroller General of the United States.
All any of you have to offer in return and in refutation are schoolyard insults.
Warren, it’s all well and good to have references online. But no one is going to take the time to go through it just on your say so. Sorry.
I believe the answer Jesus gave to questions like this was: “sell all you possess, and follow me”.
It wasn’t a message meant for plant matter though…
“Comment by Warren Bonesteel on 2/11 @ 9:05 pm #
On four different threads over 5the last week, I’ve offered my own opinions on the data available to me. Today I provided a mere glimpse into the data those opinions are based upon.”
Nobody cares, Warren.
only a statist demorat would view Jesus in such terms
Seems like a very simple question, router.
Especially for the folks aroun d here who know everything.
I think the problem is the greedy right find that the teachings of Jesus clash terribly with their political beliefs.
Maybe it’s time for a new prophet?
What, are you volunteering, snippy?
“Comment by parsnip on 2/11 @ 9:09 pm #
only a statist demorat would view Jesus in such terms
Seems like a very simple question, router.”
So answer my question:
So how much money do you spend every year helping the poor, alpo?
Taxes don’t count.
parsnip, you haven’t snarked at Warren yet. Chicken.
And, do you realize how foolish that last statement was, and on how many levels?
Guys, don’t put Warren down, please. He made himself obnoxious once. So what. Warren, I’m sorry that your feelings were hurt. Get over it.
Let’s not lecture one another.
Apparently not only did parsnip address me (good luck o hammered one), but apparently associated me with something I didn’t write about. There’s a public education for you.
“I think the problem is the greedy right” he said as a democrtaically controlled Congress passes a trillion dollar wish list to pay off unions, lawyers teachers and every screaming grievence group in the country.
Failure, snippy, learn it, love it, roll in it like a dog in shit.
I think y’all have already settled on Porky Limbaugh as your new prophet, dan.
He make all the guilt go away!
I think the problem is the greedy right find that the teachings of Jesus clash terribly with their political beliefs.
Who gives more money to charity, asshat? Even Nicholas Kristof admits that you Leftists are only charitable with other people’s money.
N.O’Brain – parsnip is not a taxpayer, it is a recipient of sombody else’s success.
So how much money do you spend every year helping the poor, alpo?
Taxes don’t count.
Go to http://www.urbandictionary.com and look up parsnip. I am telling you, it makes it more tolerable.
parsnip, is Mari some kind of strange friend of yours? Is it because Obama says not to listen to Limbaugh, to whom none of us seem to listen anyway? It’s like you’re standing there shouting “Tu quoque!” at a straw man, man.
Get over yourself.
Once?
That brief trip I just took to urban dictionary will probably not be repeated. Bleah.
Warren is not obnoxious. Pretentious and pompous, yes, but not obnoxious. That’s thor.
JD — “Hey Darnell will you give me a parsnip”
I LOL’d.
Who? Baracky? Pelosi? Kennedy?
Sorry, your seers are just far-left marx-y politicians who’ll screw their own sisters for a bit more power.
Maybe Peter Schiff?
I have a frosty Nixon what I would like to share. I was clicking stuff on the Internet .. the one in my apartment. Out of nowhere … teh gay jumped out at me.
oh. That is a very big comment. I really need to get over my shyness over at the Pub I think.
You don’t have to listen to Pimple-Butt Limbaugh to follow his teachings, Dan.
It’s kinda like when the church thought inside every brown person was a Catholic just bursting to get out.
Oh, it still believe that, don’t it.
You get the idea.
oh. The blockquotes messed up so you’ll just have to sort out which parts are my parts and which parts are the dirty socialist media’s parts.
“I think the problem is the greedy right find that the teachings of Jesus clash terribly with their political beliefs.”
not really Jesus went chased the pelosi/reid/obama out of the temple
So, how much money do you spend every year helping the poor, alpo?
Taxes don’t count.
Wow. That is Frosty, haps.
Wow Warren. You “researched.”
Physics, and associates and stuff. I’ll skip my supporting pedigrees Warren and just ask.
Got any Nobel Laureates?
http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf
School yard taunts?
You are a wannabe intellectual poof.
You haven’t read any of what you quote, and can’t quote any of what you’ve “read.”
Wait. I listen to Rush. Unashamedly.
Tell ya what, I agree with him a hell of a lot more than the guy I voted for frigg’en President.
Not all the time mind you, but personally, I’d rather Rush had Polosi’s job.
N, parsnip is busy making posts about Jesus and the Church that it/he/she will have to explain when it/he/she dies.
I blame Edward Bernays, hf. He started it.
oh. I always thought his name was like the sauce.
Sounds like but none so tasty. That’s about my favorite butter sauce of all. It’s the tarragon I think.
You’re an idiot, snippy, in the technical sense of the term. You probably light incense in front of a statue Buddha, because you think it’s a clean-shaven Michael Moore without his baseball cap. I’ll go even further with this iconoclasm a la your pal Mari, and say that my idea of fun would be to cornhole your Omessiah with a slivery broomhandle in a utility closet, just for the laffs. Har har.
Why do you folks waste so much time with snippy and gang?
There. You enjoy that? That’s your idea of discourse, fucktard.
Rob C – That one cracked me up too.
“Hey Darnell will you give me a parsnipâ€Â
Read #204 Warren.
THAT’s how you do research.
Goddamn hf.
It probably won’t make you feel any better, but Steve Hayward nailed Obama’s grand plan in the Corner today. Defined it straight up as Churchill’s definition of socialism.
“The equal sharing of misery.”
why are demorats into being the slave party? must be some s/m sex stuff somewhere. or maybe dominatrix stuff
Dan! Not slivery. Studedly.
parsnip
* The female form of man parts.
“hannah, i love your parsnip!”
* When a male deficates on a womans face then waits until it is dry and continues by forcing the fecal matter into the womans mouth and procedes to face fuck her leaving an oatmeal pie like substance in her mouth.
“Hey Darnell will you give me a parsnip”
Do elaborate on those ‘Republican beliefs’? What are they exactly?
And you still haven’t snarked Warren, or told us what you’ve done to help the “poor”.
Dan blasphemed!
I’m gonna stand over here.
And wait for the lightening to strike you dead.
Dan, hold these chicken wings for a sec. They’ll cook good in the lightening while you’re punished for your sin.
We are not alone.
Hell, my feelings weren’t hurt!
It’s the intellectual dishonesty and outright hypocrisy I see in most of these comments that gets under my skin.
They want references but then dismiss those references as invalid, because I found some of them on the internet, yet they even now use the internet and consider that use to be valid. Are you people insane? Is that it? They refuse to acknowlwedge the validity of my opinions and then, finally, someone asked for references. They then refuse to acknowledge those references, in essence dismissing their own education and economic and social lives as invalid, for the references I provided are from educators, businessmen and researchers who taught, learned, and work in the same environment they did and do.. They bitch about the lack of intellectual rigor in their ideological opponents, but offer neotenous taunts and arguments to refute their ideological opponents.
Then, to further dismiss my opinions and references and resources because you say, without any proof whatsoever, that my feelings were hurt? That is the supreme irony. The argument offered there is no different in the content or form of that offered by your ideological opponents when they discuss matters with you, and when you refuse to listen to them, or your response to them whenthey refuse to listen to you. Projecting much?
As for the ‘patriotic’ content of my first comment above… Have any of you actually read any of the founding documents of this once great nation? If completely lacking the eloquence of an earlier time, the content of my words is no different than what you will see from that earlier time in America.
Pfft. Let’s make it easy for ya…
Google:
‘Liberty Library of. Constitutional Classics.’
‘online library of liberty.’
You deny the value of patriotism in others, and will not practice the least of it yourselves. In so doing, you deny the value of your own freedom and dismiss liberty as the game of an anarchic fools.
You wear collars of gold and live in homes and wear wardrobes that would shame an ancient king, and consider yourselves to be better men than whose foolish enough who wish to free themselves of their collars of iron.
Why do retarded marmoset defacate, skreech and run away when confronted with a question, alpo?
So, how much money do you spend every year helping the poor, alpo?
Taxes don’t count.
I was thinking that earlier today. The pricks DO enjoy the control of free enterprise.
oh. I missed Warren.
The 2nd American Revolution begins this summer. June, July, mebbe.
I’m gonna hold Warren to that. Me I would have picked a cooler time of the year.
I’m sorry, but alpo can’t speak much as I’m nuking his comments. It’s not as though he says anything, anyway.
“Comment by Warren Bonesteel on 2/11 @ 9:42 pm #
Hell, my feelings weren’t hurt!
It’s the intellectual dishonesty and outright hypocrisy I see in most of these comments that gets under my skin.”
Nobody cares what you think or if your feelings are hurt, Warren.
There’ll be a load of compromisin’ on the road to my horizon but I’m gonna be where the lights are shinin’ on me I think, Warren. Dirty socialists ain’t so tough.
Warren, its one thing to make ONE reference, with a brief explanation of what it is. If you give a whole bibliography, its a bit much. No one is going to want to wade through all that. I will look into one of the youtube videos later, on the fall of empire.
You come across as pedantic, and you don’t fit into the tone of this comments section. You’re like the cowboy who goes to the hip hop club.
I mean, as a Californian, I can just imagine the strings from the state bailout that will hit me in the nads when the Feds come around to collect.
Salary cap on CEO’s? Tis nothing, I assure you.
Warren of many words,but not many actual points, will more than make up for parsnip’s silence. How many names has it been banned under now?
Comment by happyfeet on 2/11 @ 9:43 pm #
You’re a master of logistics, hf.
The Kevin Phillips link, you sorta lost me with that. He’s a pseudointellectual douche now. Very much the slumming at Pacifica Radio type.
we’re talking bonesteel here people
Warren,
Thank you for the information you provided. While I probably would have preferred a more straightforward narrative style explanation of what I initially found to be cryptic insinuations, I now see what you have been driving at…
It is your belief based on what you’ve read that the union will disintegrate in a relatively short time period, much like was predicted by that Russian fellow recently. This will be do to total economic collapse, although I couldn’t gather whether that would be due to Zimbabwe like inflation, or other facts stemming from the loss of our manufacturing base…
And, if I read you 5 X 5 , you seem to think that when this comes to pass shortly, that all of us that love our nation and Constuitution had better be ready to be “men of action”, as the Irish ballads might characterize it…
I’ll read the material you cited, when I can work it into my own work, and see what I think. Although I must say that I always thought that the existensial threats to our nation were from without, militarily, than from any economic or inside threat…
Thanks for taking the time
Best Wishes
The last time I heard verbiage like that it was spouted by some guy holding a sign that said ‘GOD HATES FAGS.’
He wasn’t having any more luck getting through to people than you are.
oh. If master of logistics means you’re stocked up on juiceboxes and you have a strategic aerial view of Ralph’s parking lot then I’m your guy I guess.
Does knowing how to use Google Earth count, happyfeet?
You missed a bunch, Dan.
Bless your frosty little sociopathic nuking heart Dan.
“It’s the intellectual dishonesty and outright hypocrisy I see in most of these comments that gets under my skin.”
And we all stay awake at night wandering what get’s under your skin.
You wrote 2 long paragraphs above because you’re offended at getting called on bullshit YOU’VE NEVER FUCKING READ.
You measure your dick with a fake book report you think would impress poli sci professors. We get it. Good for you. I hope it get’s you laid at the public library or you got to fuck Harry Reid or whatever..
While it makes you important at HuffPo or DU or in Congress or wherever, it means FUCK ALL here.
You’re on the team, pledgepolish55. There will be perimeters what must be tactical and also you can plot out where all the Arby’s are.
Do we meet up at IHOP to make our plans? I want the Tootie Frootie pancakes before the adventure.
Warren, if you want to see what people around here read, have a look at this.
HF just reminded me that I haven’t been to IHOP in much too long.
I’m a Breakfast Sampler man, myself.
That pancake idea makes me think I should get on the stick and make some waffles for dinner. And bacon.
Bacon and sausage, Lt polish. Revolution’s hungry work plus they take my card there.
oh. that’s right, I got sausages to be dealt with too. Good catch hf, I mighta missed ’em afore they spoilt.
The Breakfast Sampler comes with bacon, sausage, and ham.
Yeah, we’re going to have a hard time in the field, relying on Hormel bacon flavored Spam that we cook on a hot plate.
I used to always order the Colorado Omelette, but lately I’ve preferred the Big Steak Omelette.
But I’m even more likely to go to Steak ‘n’ Shake and order Eggs With the Works. So, you know, somebody e-mail me the minutes, okay?
Oh, I forgot, *salutes* Colonel happyfeet, Sir!
Seesh, ok, ham too. It’s a meaty sort of dinner tonight.
“I want the Tootie Frootie pancakes before the adventure.”
Can I have your bacon?
I’m on Atkins.
Plus, bacon makes jihadis cry.
at ease I think. I’m on my eggrolls kick again but now waffles sound really good. Waffles of freedom.
stop with the pork stuff you maybe offending people
Which reminds me, did you ever get your biscuits and pan gravy SBP?
Correction, its Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity. My bad.
I’m from South Carolina. We’re Waffle House people.
I had a pound of bacon and some chocolate chip cookie dough for dinner tonight. But now you guys have gone and made me hungry, so I am going to head out to Denny’s for a late night Moons Over Myhammy.
In Texas long ago I remember Toddle Houses where you could get good waffles and steak and eggs and such. I haven’t seen one of those places in forever.
I love Denny’s coffee cups. I only have a couple left.
They’re also the party of dividing people into groups based on their perceived genetic backgrounds. They used to do it with theories of racial superiority and scaring poor, uneducated white folks with threats of what blacks would do to them. Now they do it with “diversity” and scaring uneducated and maleducated black folks with threats of what white folks will do to them.
I don’t know if it’s institutional memory of the effectiveness of dividing people, sheer callousness, or an honest belief in “race” as a determining factor, but it’s quite scary.
(And no doubt one of the trolls will whine about the “Southern Strategy” being “proof” of Republican racism. Unfortunately for them, the correlation is between the fading of racism in the south and Republican political success. Unfortunately for all of us, they continue to use bigotry as a major campaign tool — look back at some of the ads they ran against Jindal. They emphasized his Catholicism in areas they considered likely to be anti-Catholic and doctored photos to darken his skin in areas they considered to be primarily white.)
Looking at the wiki it appears that Toddle House was founded by the father of the guy who in turn founded FedEx, Fred Smith. His dad was James Fredrick. A Toddle House regional manager by the name Joe Rogers left T.H. to found Waffle House.
pledgepolish – I once went 3 consecutive day, during a Harley trip, where I ate at Waffle Houses for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 9 straight meals. It was nirvana.
happyfeet – When Better Half’s folks come up next week, I will have her Mom make up a batch of Vietnames eggrolls, and will FedEx some to you.
Can I come to Denny’s too, even if I have the french toast?
Consider now, The French guy is probably to the right of the American guy these days…
that would rock, JD. Mine are the frozen ones from Texas. The just shrunk them a little, I guess either cause of the recession or they thought they took too long to cook, when they were bigger. YOu had to cook them like 25 minutes longer than it said for it to come out right. Hey. I went to Vietnamese in NY last time. I got a smoothie made out of Durian fruit. And we got this drink that’s a glass of ice with an egg yolk and evaporated milk at the bottom and then you pour a bottle of seltzery stuff over it. And then a green bean drink but I can’t really describe it. I just discovered pearl drinks when I was in Austin over Christmas. Had my first jackfruit there. Need to find a place in my zone here but it’s mostly Indian and sushi.
“The 2nd American Revolution begins this summer. June, July, mebbe.”
If you start that in Illinois, I will probably have to shoot you in your face. Nothing personal, just ILARNG business.
The French guy is probably to the right of the American guy these days…
that’s really not untrue… oh. I caught that too, LTC… what he meant was the second civil war I think. That seems kind of impractical to me.
Oh, and would all of you knock it off – I am going to have to go to the kitchen and make a pile of pancakes and bacon and stick my face in it and graze my way out…
If you start that in Illinois, I will probably have to shoot you in your face.
I am rooooooollllling. Classic.
Congrats on the LTC, sir.
happy – email me your address.
I’ll just have Chips Ahoy and milk. That’ll work in place of bacon, the candy of meat.
Thanks JD.
“bacon, the candy of meat” Oooh, I like that!
happy – In the Chinatown area, there are several sensational, but rather dirty, pho shops. Also, apparently there is a huge Vietnamese community in OC, or so say the in-laws. They go out there to visit a couple times a year. They say it is the best Vietnamese food outside of Vietnam, or Houston.
Grazing is for herbivores. I think the verb you were looking for is gnawing.
That’s gnawing.
Jeeze! I feel like miss manners here!
It’s “for a penny a pop”, and, in case you don’t know, virtue is it’s own reward.
281 – gnaw sounds too…passive. How would one describe a hungry shark eating through something?
I’m not certain what a good verb for ‘feeding frenzy’ is LTC John.
Hmmm… If you people don’t stop the yummy breakfast food talk, I might have to go feeding frenzy myself through a pile of bacon and pancakes.
That might work.
“That seems kind of impractical to me.”
A 2nd Civil War?
I can’t score that many vacation days.
If Obama keeps it up and we get a European 30-hour work week, then maybe.
Somebody will have to watch my dog.
If Warren cuts me with his bibliography, can I get disability pay?
That one plant/sob story at the Obama Revival got a house.
Nevermind. I’ll ask Julio.
LTC John – I do not know how to contact you, but through here, but I will be up in your neck of the woods around the 25-27 FEB. Would love to sit down and buy you a heaping carcass of medium rare dead animal.
Allowing banks to operate under the assumption that no group of people will want to take out a large amounts of money on the same day is…risky.
I know I have said this before, several times in fact, but just when you think tuberhead can’t get any stupider he comes up with a gem like this. How can anybody presume to argue economics when they are too fucking dense to understand the basic principle of a bank?
Which reminds me, did you ever get your biscuits and pan gravy SBP?
Oh, yeah. I make that pretty often, actually. We buy multiple rolls of Jimmy Dean when it’s on sale and keep ’em in the freezer.
I usually make biscuits in the counter top convection/toaster oven.
Oh, and my biscuits? Made with pure butter, one stick per batch. No shortening.
How about:
“one more person mentions food, I won’t be responsible for the animal population in this county”
JD try john dot tammes at us.army.mil
289 – OK, as long it is the pig, cow and chicken population that is at risk.
I’m a half butter/half lard biscuit maker m’self, SBP. Butter for flavor, lard for the flake.
Rend. Hacksaw through. Dismember.
oh man, wish I’d read this before RTO heated up the frozen pizza.
What, lobster omlettes reek of elitism?
How about steak (beef, elk, deer, whatever) and eggs? Too common?
DON’T JUDGE ME!!!
Oy, debris clouds can’t be good.
LTC John – I just sent you an email with my contact information.
Nearly any dead animal can make a good meal. A parsnip can ruin a meal.
a creamy parsnip soup is good
“OK, as long it is the pig, cow and chicken population that is at risk.”
Hey, whad’a you got against a man who eats venison?
And criminals?
JD, now that you mention it, I did have a really good bison burger a couple of weeks back. Ted’s Montana Grill…. ah!
I guess they’re going to have to deploy that great big vaccuum cleaner, like Dark Helmet tried to use on the Earth in “Spaceballs”, to suck up all of the debris…
They used to have good bison burgers at Ruby Tuesday’s, before they completely fucked up the menu.
LYBD,
Deer makes good sausage and vension steaks…but when it comes to breakfast, I prefer to annihilate cows, pigs and chickens.
I’ll eat almost anything four legged after that.
like cambells in can with bacon
Orange County is really really out of my zone. That’s where I lived when I first moved out here, Anaheim.
oh. Sounds like something like this, Sdferr.
Hmm… looks like the RT burger menu has been restored, in all its endless fries glory.
Hope for the future!
I left for a few hours. I had to play music in my Pop-Rock band. I played a $1700.00 Hamer, a $1500.00 Gibson and a $1200.00 Rickenbacker for about 3 hours. It’s a part time gig and I am in my 40’s. I paid for all of those guitars, and my 19 others, without the help of Libtard government. I paid for my undergrad and my Masters at the University of Wisconsin, myself. My wife and I ask nothing of the Federal government other than basic I-system roads and National defense. My nephew was wounded in Iraq 12/4 and served a second tour USMC. My son attends a private Catholic school, despite my nearly $4000.00@ year Wisconsin property tax bill.
You liberals are complete and utter losers. If you had come over on the Mayflower, you would have been turned out and pimped by the Indians. (Errrrr Native Americans). You have no clue, no spine, no backbone and no morals.
And most of you know it. Without the Nanny State, you’d starve.
LYBD,
I’ll skip eating criminals, however. “Long pig” is strictly off my diet.
Bye, troll.
Jee, I wonder if it was an Israeli “satellite” that ran into Iran’s brand new satellite?
I can dream can’t I?
My last was aimed at libocrat, in case it’s not obvious.
libocrat is people
310, 312…. ?
Which Gibson?
I may have misread the tone there. Sorry if so… I’ve been on the go since 5:30 this morning.
Lee, elk and caribou are all gristle and no good meat.
Like Warren.
Pasnip is like dove. Fun to shoot, but no point in grilling.
Tiny breasts and they’re basically glorified pigeons.
And they taste like ass.
Not that I know what ass tastes like.
Somebody else told me that dove/ass thing.
Just passing it along.
What?
Quit looking at me like that.
Darnell!!!!
That’s for JD.
There was a restaurant in Austin that just did game meat. Deers and quails and boars and pheasants. I think it was called The Skyline cause it was up the hill part of Lamar. South Lamar. It’s gone. I think there’s a very very trendy Asiany place there now.
LYBD, you need to hang out with a better class of cooks…
Good night, all. I gained 5 pounds just reading this thread.
And they taste like ass.
Paging helen Thomas. Please pick up the white courtesy phone. Paging Helen Thomas…
Thanks, kelly. I am rolling … Off to Denny’s. Moons Over Myhammy with a couple sides of bacon. WOOt!
libocrat’s rant had some pronoun issues I think, in that the “you” appeared to be aimed at the entire comment thread, but he’s one of the good guys.
LTC John,
You speak wise sir. Truth told, summer sausage is about the only venison I can regularly stomach. Never had walking/ yard bird for breakfast except that one time at Roscoe’s Chicken & Waffles (that shit was delicious).
I go more for the migas, bacon, jalapeno-cornbread, and pot of coffee on the back porch kind of thing.
On the weekends of course.
While the girlfriends’ still sleeping (and doesn’t make me eat oatmeal and wheat toast.)
libocrat’s rant had some pronoun issues I think, in that the “you†appeared to be aimed at the entire comment thread
Yeah, that’s how I interpreted it, but after going back and reading his earlier stuff, I had my head up my ass.
Sincere apologies, libocrat.
Try throwing a venison rump or shoulder roast in a crock pot with a big ole can of kraut, a chopped up sweet onion and some cracked black peppers.
Roscoe’s! One of the genuinely unabashed good things about LA I think.
“Try throwing a venison rump or shoulder roast in a crock pot with a big ole can of kraut, a chopped up sweet onion and some cracked black peppers.”
I know that’s probably really good, but reading it I felt the sudden urge to take a dump.
Is that wrong?
Scrumptious or not I have a feeling that recipe includes an urgent duece for the dining party soon after eating.
I misread libocrat too.
It was the, “If you had come over on the Mayflower, you would have been turned out and pimped by the Indians” that lost me for a minute.
I know it was aimed the other way, but, truth is, we were, in fact, turned out and pimped by the Indians.
We traded a giant chest of gold pieces for four ears of maze corn and a scrawny turkey.
Maybe there were some sweet potatoes, but I don’t think so.
No marshmallows on them. I guarantee that.
Just saying. The “Indians” had a better Thanksgiving that year.
Ah yeah, looks like the dumbfartin’ r-wingered neo-bushcons got them their periscopes out. “Hey there, Ltc John, see’m blackbrids sittin’ on the power lines? Mmm, I thinks them’s ’em black NATO ‘elumicopters, see ‘um Laymont?
“Damn, I dream’a fuckin’ Jeanie!! Them’s bigger than batmobiles!”
“796485, Rob’s Craw, anyone read?
“Fuckin’ Barney Frank sucks dicks, hey yo! I’m JD, over and out!”
“Latest Zogby has Obama down 10 at a 72% approval! It’s over for dark six”
“sPies?”
“The fuck you doin’ in over his bunker, honey?”
“Look bunnies!”
“You do not wife-swap in my gaurd, Ltc. John, over, and that’s an order!”
“Honey?”
“Anyone hear the one about two the Rabbis and a Jew?”
“Shut up, JD, honey, you there?”
“383192, dark star, double dark star, Obamas, possible Obamas, Rob Craw, going under, over”
“Fuck off, Crawford!”
“She says she’s not your wife, over.”
“Fuck you!”
“Anyone see the one where Ted Baxter has sex with Rhoda?”
“Shut your mouth off, Lamont!”
“Then there’s the one where Michael Vick asks the blonde…”
“Bah-bye! Trollhammered!”
“Not sure you can do that to JD, sPies.”
“Who the fuck are you?
“John, over.”
“26704696969!”
“My boss hates me, says I have to lose weight, what!”
“
Good night thor.
Sleep/ hate well.
Kelly, I own several. The Gibson in question is a 1980 Les Paul Special..mint….p-90 pickups.
Les Paul special, with them cheap ass single coils?
Ewwwww.
You bad. Throw it up on Ebay and I’ll bid $350.
Make it $250, it’s probably stolen.
Double check the head stock, make sure it’s not an Electra knock-off, Mr. libocrat guitar wolf.
Ahh, someone fancies himself to be Woodward or that other feller. Thorstein.
A legend in his own mind.
Any axe you got that that Lee Atwater hick-picker signed I’ll pay $200 straight up.
Enjoy that inexpensive, fancy, imported food while ya can, folks.
http://tinyurl.com/dbr53p
Catastrophic Fall in 2009 Global Food Production
by Eric deCarbonnel
http://tinyurl.com/ab87tj
A grim warning on food shortages
Ian Sample
 January 27, 2009
btw, Bob, It seems that the few references I provided were of some use to ya…seein’s how ya seem to lack reading comprehension. ;)
As for a few others, here…reading is good for ya, but it helps a bunch if ya actually put that new knowledge into practice in your own words and deeds. Claiming to be a Classical Liberal while not putting those principles into practice in your own lives is hypocrisy cubed.
But, being an actually believer in individual freedom, yer perfectly free to do what ya wanna. Just don’t be real surprised when no one else -cough/PJM/cough-takes ya seriously.
By their words, here, several others have already proven my point(s) for me.
Oh…and I figger Parsnip didn’t really wanna take me on ’cause I was pretty much sayin’ some of the things he’s been tryin’ to tell ya through other means. Not that I approve of those means. Thor’s mostly just jerkin’ yer chains ’cause it’s so easy to do. very time ya jump through his little obscenity and crudity-laden hoops and respond in kind, ya just prove how big a hypocrites ya really are. You claim to be the voice of reason and of intellectual prowess, but you offer little but obscenities self-congratulation and in return.
As for my being obnoxious, if the truth is obnoxious, then I am guilty as charged.
“…it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We
are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of
that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of
the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part,
whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.”
Thor, you’re a pussy. You could and will never be able to pay for such a GIBSON guitar! The CROWNING GLORY of a LIBTARD such as you THOR…(SORE with a LISP) is that you can run your libtard cake hole, but never BACK THAT GAPING MAW!!!
Thor-loser. You will never own my Gibsons, Fenders, Rickenbackers OR Hamers. Thor, you are a LOSER!
#340
He’a an attention whore and you’re just playing into him. The guy’s got no life. Don’t give him one.
I know that’s probably really good, but reading it I felt the sudden urge to take a dump.
Is that wrong?
Dude! There is never anything wrong with taking a massive dump. You might need to macho it up a notch or two, I am a little concerned after that comment.
Oh…and I figger Parsnip didn’t really wanna take me on ’cause I was pretty much sayin’ some of the things he’s been tryin’ to tell ya through other means.
Yeah, tuberhead is real big on individual freedom, limited government and strict Constitutionalism.
I hope you did a better job reading all them books than you have reading this blog.
And thor, the Gibson P-90 was one of the greatest pick-ups ever made. Humbuckers are training wheels for guitars.
Who’s this “you”, Warren? Have you been slipping some of that bathtub overgeneralization into your morning OJ, again?
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You know something?
Greg Dean? Is that you?
Claiming to be a Classical Liberal while not putting those principles into practice in your own lives is hypocrisy cubed.
Lemem guess. Warren is lecturing again?
Warren is losing credibility with the food shortage thing. There’s still time to recover though.
No more food for oil!
Are you that semi-hot chick-singer from the Bangles? Guitarist for the Go-Go-s?
Might as well come clean.
Come on people. Thor fucked a travelling guitar salesman once. he knows guitars.
I have to second what B Moe said above. I personally appreciate what Warren, I think, is attemtping to do here. However, the alphie line? Dayum, Warren, if you have read just a fraction of alphie’s comments, you should know better than say what you said. Alphie just hates. There is nothing more to it.
Great thread. One should never miss Bonesteel channeling MLK channeling Jefferson channeling hair of the absinthe that bit him.