I’ve let this go, till now, because even The One is not responsible for the racist idiocy that this invited ninny spewed. But impassioned benediction? Dumbass drunk best man stupid commentary is more like it:
….help us work for that day when black will not be asked to give back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right.”
Listen, you jerkwater fuckwad: there’s NOTHING POST-RACIAL ABOUT THAT, and if you were a whitey, you’d be drawn and quartered for that bullshit.
And as for you, Cathy Lynn Grossman, you’re a moron to think that impassioned stupidity is anything but stupidity, impassioned.
Via Joan of Arrggh! in the comments, Velociman’s take on the classlessnest
Ted Clark: If you’re white, you’re full of shite
Amen, Dan. Amen.
Great start, Zerobama. Flubbed oath, religious oaf, and a vile website attack on Bush. Ad hominem attacks from a President’s office toward 80% of the population. All in his first day!
I was trying to be nice, but Velociman has the cure for that shit.
All that white guilt? I am soooo over it.
When whitey ain’t so tighty; when we can let the yellow mellow; when with the brown, we don’t flush it down.
WTF?
I’ve been white for a long time. It a joke in my house.
The joke goes like this.
We call blacks coons. We call Mexicans spicks. We call Chinese chinks. So what do we call whites?
Answer – Racists.
And believe me the same joke is said in black households.
I recognised it. Heck I identified with it, and I think it’s funny/reassuring that black Americans laugh at the same thing I do.
Um, that’s great, papertiger. Glad you’re so down with the double standards.
Then the red can Ted(IYKWIMAITYD).
Sorry, it’s all I have. Nevertheless profound by this dickhead’s standards.
I heard that, and came home knowing there would be a post written somewhere on it. I had three phone calls within a minute of that line.
What a farking anal pore. ..white embrace what is right.. You just can’t respond to that without being denounced!
A white rage. It was bound to happen to a group with such a huge chip on its shoulder. Sorry the Rev whined, but you people seem so small when you link to incomprehensible rage and fluff like that Velociman. That dude is one primal scream of idiocy
If only this malign Superman would embrace what is right, the desert would flower.
I spy an ass.
A John Deere 7830 isn’t going to do you much good when there’s a T-84 bearing down on you. A Challenger II on the other hand, isn’t what I’d be wanting to pull a five section tandem disk with either.
Ted, are you red?
I’m sorry, Ted, but the man is an ass, and I’ve noticed that, and I’ve stated it.
I don’t understand your upset.
Also left unsaid in the praise of this guy is that, like Rick Warren, he opposes gay marriage.
“Like a whole lot of people, I have some difficulty with the term ‘gay marriage’ because…deeply rooted in my heart and mind, marriage is associated with ‘man and woman.'”
So Warren giving the invocation is an affront to America, but this crap is beloved? I don’t get it.
The point is it’s not a double standard. It more like two sides of the same coin.
You have to understand that preacher lived in an America where the powers that be turned a firehose on him just because he marched for the right to vote.
I suppose he could have been more accurate and said white Democrats stand for what’s right, but then he would have killed Senator Byrd outright, instead of just sending him to the hospital.
Plus it’s hard to rhyme “democrat”.
It was “white” America that put Obama in the White House. Regardless that over 90% of “blacks” voted for Obama, most of them ignorant of his positions, there just are not enough numbers to get Obama elected.
But white racism is the cash cow for the likes of Lowery. He can’t let it go because that means life has moved beyond him and made him irrelevant. Lowery got to piss in Obama’s punchbowl and send him a message at the same time.
Even the coronation of Baracky cannot make Ted Clark any less of an asshat.
He can’t let it go because that means life has moved beyond him and made him irrelevant.
The dude is like a 106 years old. Life has moved beyond him. I don’t begrudge him the rememberance of the great truth of his life.
Why do you?
It is okay to be a racist ass because you are old? Wasn’t that the same excuse they used for Rev. Hatey before Baracky threw him under the back of the bus?
Papertiger, do you mean white Democrats like Bull Connor, George Wallace, Orville Farbus, John C. Calhoun, Roger Taney, and former Klan members Hugo Black, Claude Pepper, and Robert Byrd. Or some other kind?
So Warren giving the invocation is an affront to America, but this crap is beloved? I don’t get it.
Warren isn’t down 100% with the struggle, and therefore must be mau-maued. Lowery is brown, so he can stick aroun’.
papertiger
maybe you’re ignorant of the Civil Rights movement – it wasn’t Democrats that passed the Emancipation Proclamation nor wrote the 14th Amendment nor the Civil Rights act of 1875, 1957 or 1964.
But hey, its just Republikkans of Amerikkka that Lowery “remembers”!
“I don’t begrudge him the rememberance of the great truth of his life.”
Summon the asteroids.
Thanks for the post Dan…
“I’ve let this go, till now, because even The One is not responsible for the racist idiocy that this invited ninny spewed.”
But I’m afraid we disagree here…Obama now owns all of the left’s commentary just as Bush had to own the prior; especially ones that were invited to play a substantial and highly visable role in his
coronationapotheosistransfigurationtransubstantiationinauguration…There were many things that were said and done throughout the unprecedented, and generally orgasmic, TV broadcast of this day that directly undermine the phony post-partisan, post-racial, and unifying message of President the one! This unsavory episode was tied for the most visible among them…
But I am glad you brought it up for discussion by the PW crew…
Best Wishes
papertiger – Spare us your condescension. No one is begrudging anything – they are pointing out the stupid, vapid nature of his “poem.” It’s crap, regardless of how old he is, and the fact that your guilt or whatever makes you willing to take this crap means nothing.
Gee, papertiger, maybe because he didn’t seem to hear Obama’s call from Paul to put aside childish things and grow the fuck up?
Dude screwed up . . . bigtime.
My main focus of revulsion for today has been Woodrow Wilson.
He was the father of segregation if there is such a thing and most of that sorry SOB’s sordid personal history has been sponged by university professors.
But in spite of the careful wording in Wikipedia entries a careful reader can see his hand in most of the racial tentions of the 20th century.
But Bull Conner and those other dudes played their part.
Post-racial post-partisan, my ass.
Sully said the same thing about Lowery.
Andrew Sullivan is already gloating over the coming prosecutions, noting that Bush did not pardon anyone associated with torture.
I hope President Obama does not go there, it would be a terrible mistake. I did not support the adhanced interrogation techniques of the Bush Administration and was absolutely against Rummy’s “taking off the gloves” policy at the DoD, but war crime prosecutions would be a disaster for this country.
Why does honky have to be so . . . wonky?
Dan – I like how his call to put aside childish things and grow up was preceded by his attack on President Bush.
But I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that’s why I love you
So don’t be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow
Couldn’t even make it a day, Dan?
Color me surprised.
maybe because he [Lowrey] didn’t seem to hear Obama’s call from Paul to put aside childish things and grow the fuck up?
I’d chalk that up to deafness.
Did Obama really say “grow the fuck up?”
“war crime prosecutions would be a disaster for this country.”
Better start alpbetically naming the disasters I think.
Couldn’t even take a day off from being a troll, turnip. Color me shocked!
You know, snippy, I’m not blaming The One. I feel bad for him that he had his special moment hijacked by this grandstanding ninny.
papertiger, you are not worth the commentary. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
turnip/sniffles/alphtard is nothing if not consistent.
“I feel bad for him that he had his special moment hijacked by this grandstanding ninny”
Ya gotta admit he brings the funk to the iambic pentantameter or something like that.
Oops, too much white hegemony.
WTF is this “when yellow will be mellow” shit?? Like, Asian Americans are supposed to feel guilty about the pathetic shape of the “African-American Community”?? The fucker needs a viewing of Gran Torino (for starters) . . .
It really is a reminder of what towering figures people like MLK,jr. and even Malcolm X were.
I mean, those two were already great men, but observing this kind of crap that passes for modern-day “black civil rights activism” just drives the point home further.
IF Baracky the Lightworker wants to go there, it is on like Donkey Kong.
WHEN the next Republican Administration comes to power, I will loudly demand, nay, CLAMOR for them to haul his ass out of whatever posh retirement home he’s landed at and drag him in front of Congressional committee after committee after committee. Cause, if policy differences are now criminal, he’s just about ready to be come a serial offender……………..
Plus, Ted (Teddy?), you should really make like one of those “Yellows” and chill the fuck out.
Don’t mind me, I’ve been drinking with skeletons.
when yellow will be mellow? Seriously?! Really?! Let him come spend a week with Better Half and see if there is anything mellow about it …
papertiger, you are not worth the commentary. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Look I’m being oppress by the Man.
Well I guess I go off in a huff.
See ya later honkeys.
Just you try and get a huff in this neighborhood, homey.
“when yellow will be mellow? Seriously?!”
Don’t get anyone started on couplets, JD.
Screw the content, kelly, that crap is just juvenile. I have a 7 year old that writes better poetry than that.
….help us work for that day when black will not be asked to give back
Rev. Lowery did not say “give back,” (like: sharing) he said “get back” (like: to the back of the bus)
That makes his quote a hell of a lot less offensive.
You can hear it for yourself at about 4:50.
It’s not your fault–I did a Google search and it looks like half of the MSM sources got this quote wrong. Our stupid media at work.
Oh, it makes it marginally less offensive, Daryl, but it’s still a good thing that he’s not a melanin-challenged Amerikkkan.
If you’re Korean, be glad you’re still bein’.
See ya later honkeys.
I won’t be seeing you.
Buh-bye.
I really do not see how that makes the overall tone of his silliness that much less offensive.
If you’re Iraqi, you know Bush is wacky.
If you’re Japanese, get down with the skeez.
If you’re Jewish, I bet your wife is shrewish.
If you’re a Papist, I bet your priest’s a rapist.
If you’re Zimbabwian…aw, fuck it, just register Democrat in the next primary.
If your name is H.B., you play with your pee-pee.
If you’re Egyptian, you’re…aw, fuck it just sign up with Madrassa, Inc. Take classes at home!
Sure Daryl- “less offensive”:
“You best be sweatin’ if you be Tibetan”
“But you can clap if you be a J–”
Yeah, that’s a whole “lot less offensive” . . .
Oh, by the way- F-U-C-K Y-O-U
Well, this is going to be my last comment for a while. Many thanks to all of you for great entertainment, and also Dave for letting me know what the heck a blog was. Until last week all I used my computer for was to check the weather.
Dave set me up as NC, but I don’t really like that. It’s not that I am not proud of what I did, it’s just that there were hundreds of men that did as much or more than me. I’ll go with NC though, but if we ever meet, my name is Mel.
I have been reading your comments today and I think you are getting too worked up. I’ve been around for quite a few Presidents and the country has always been larger than any of them. I never really paid too much attention when I was young, but I remember my grandfather go on and on about Mr. Lincoln. My father was none too happy with Mr Roosevelt either, but he was my Commander in Chief. Personally, I liked Harry Truman as it was him that allowed me to come home. None of the rest stand out much, although I liked Mr Reagan.
Point is that whatever happens over the next four years we have been through much worse and survived as a nation. We will again. I don’t much like this new President, but I’ll live with it, God willing.
To all of you here at Protein Wisdom, it’s been fun. Reminds me of a barber shop I used to go to. Same type of talk, but some of you would need to have your mouths washed out. Different time, eh?
Maggie, you take care now. Don’t go tempting fate. Take care of RTO now.
Dan, I have enjoyed your work. You as well Darleen. Sanity Inspecter too.
Dave is here telling me not to forget anyone, so if I do I apologize. You do great work. Never got to read any of this Jeff’s work. Maybe someday.
JD, Pablo,Jhoward, and Carin, you seem like good people.
Happyfeet, you are a gem. Dave told me about your Mom and I was right sorry to hear about that.
To a certain person that likes to call himself parsnip, I would still like to meet you someday.
Thor, mocking someone’s pain over the loss of a pet reveals much about you young man. You should be ashamed.
As for me, I’m off again. Don’t like to stay in one place too long anymore. At my age I take certain licenses. I have the RV gassed up and I am leaving tonight. I just came by Dave’s house to use his computer and to raid his seemingly bottomless well of scotch. I think I’d like to see the ocean. Or maybe the mountains. Or the desert. Haven’t decided yet. When I get to the mixmaster in Dallas, I’ll decide on which way to go. Remember, when you are retired, everyday is Saturday.
Semper Fi
-Mel
USMC 41-46
*sniff*
bye, Mel!
NC, if you get to Vermont, please look me up. I’d love to buy you a drink or four.
Mel – Thank you. Safe travels.
Dan
I was megatons more offended by the “Nah, nah, nah” chant directed at Bush by the Obamorons.
Seriously, if you look at Lowrey’s life as a whole, you’ll see a dude who you agree with on more things then you dissagree.
Like for instance, Lowrey is dead set against gay marriage.
Lowrey says things to piss off white democrats. {I mean who do you think he was talking to in Washington today?- it wasn’t the NRO or Rush babies in attendance}
He goes to church regularly.
See, bunch of good stuff.
Oh, Forgot. Dave tells me to say thank to Spies as he invented some gizmo that makes his life better, so thanks.
Also, several of you had said thanks for the service and I never got around to saying you are welcome. I ask one thing in return. Remember us.
I’m not dead set against gay marriage. I’m dead set against courts telling us that their definition of marriage must be ours.
“Like for instance, Lowrey is dead set against gay marriage.”
Stone him!!!!
Vaya con Dios, Mel…
Your yesterdays have made all of our todays possible…
And thanks for your words of wisdom…
Oh, and my suggestion? Try SoCal for a while; you get the mountains, the desert, and the ocean all in one…
California, nice place to visit, but I couldn’t live there anymore…
No offense to hf, Darleen, or any of the other Californians
Baracky is dead set against gay marriage too, and claims that his religion informs his views on the subject. Stone him !!!!!!!!!!!!
Mel, how could we forget?
“Seriously, if you look at Lowrey’s life as a whole, you’ll see a dude who you agree with on more things then you dissagree.”
OOoohhh, I dunno. If he ever pulled that “when yellow can be mellow” on my Hmong friends, I’d personally pummel the decrepit little fuck.
He goes to church, therefore you have to agree with him. Does that pass for logical reasoning somewhere? Also, the idea that being against same sex marriage would make him a kindred spirit to all around here is laughable, but I know that people like you prefer to argue with the cacicatures in your head.
Velociman’s rant was a thing of beauty.
I’m thinking my unicorn, there’s something amiss. I hope its not one of those bitey arctic foxes with a paper-towel holder taped to its head.
Sorry folks, but I may be ready to give up on this nation. If the election of a politician as vacuous and vapid as Barack Obama didn’t creep you out enough, then check out this video: http://www.cassyfiano.com/2009/01/baby-boomers-will-rise-from-the-dead-generation-we
While I realize this is nothing less than a propaganda outlet for some “progressive” outlet, as a 26 year old conservative, I am simply outnumbered by complete and utter morons around me who are my age or younger. I am a doctoral candidate in the fairly pragmatic and conservative field of economics (a field that relies on hard data and thus tends to be one of if not the least liberal fields of study in graduate school), but I am surrounded by people who (for instance) are literally shocked (if not insulted) when I explain to them that the global warming hysteria perpetuated by the media is based on a 0.6 degree increase in temperature over the past 60 years. They really do buy this shit hook line and sinker. Conservatives can scoff at the ability of academia to cram bullshit into adolescent’s heads, but these people have been teaching your kids for the past 40 years. I think it’s finally worked. We really have raised a YouTube generation of complete, fucking idiots who really, sincerely, honest to god believe there IS such a thing as a free lunch.
And now they want seconds too.
Alexis de Tocqueville once said, “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money”.
Well I believe that day has arrived, and if it hasn’t, it is near. I dare you to watch that video I posted above about “Generation We” and deny it is so. How those in the video can claim they’re being stuck with trillions in debt from previous generations (true) and then DEMAND the government spend billions if not trillions of dollars on huge government spending programs designed for them (no irony there apparently) is beyond me.
I am surrounded by people who expect Obama to symbolically, if not literally, pay for their gas and their mortgage.
Who literally don’t know anything about the Constitution.
Who couldn’t define federalism if they tried.
Who, in large majorities, are unable to name the three branches of government.
Who are more likely to believe in Dennis Kucinich’s “Strength Through Peace” than Reagan’s “Peace Through Strength”, since that’s what their International Poli Sci professor told them.
Who sincerely believe terrorists in Guantanamo Bay are constitutionaly entitled to due process rights (again, they do what they’re told)
I am truly sorry to say this since I am a part of this generation. But for a generation that prides itself so much on its individuality and personal expression, it is also the dumbest, most sophomoric, least skeptical of authority and conformist generation ever.
Group-think prevails here. Have you seen the Daily Show or Colbert Report? This is where many of these people get their only source of news from. Seriously. I’m not making that up.
But as a 26 year old who works full time and goes to school at night without government grants or loans and is intending to get married to a former liberal (turned libertarian), I am seriously considering turning into Atlas and shrugging. There is really no incentive anymore for me to act as a responsible citizen in this country and pay my own bills. I am sorry if I do in fact give up on the ideals of this once great country, but I do not come to this decision lightly. Even people I respect have succumbed to this stupidity. It is so entrenched that I’m starting to wonder if the complete failure of Obama’s presidency (and it will be a complete failure – the recession is just gearing up, you ain’t seen nothing yet folks) will still be blamed on Bush, as the media convinces these morons around me not to believe their lying eyes and empty wallets.
I will still fight the good fight and still blow these assholes away in debates with them (their talking points have been repeated so often, I’ve already heard them all), but I am simply surrounded by too many of these morons and I believe it is too late for this country.
Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but enjoy your trillion dollar deficits year in and year out under our new HopeAndChange! overlords as kids from China easily surpass our fucking dumb, uneducated kids in math and science and then sell us shit we used to make here.
I’d recommend that if you can, home-school your kids.
He goes to church, therefore you have to agree with him.
It gives him a bit deeper moral compass then the average inaugural attendant in Washington tonight.
It was black people, of a like mind with the Lowreys of the world, who defeated proposition 8 in California. They also voted down two out of three global warming initiatives.
Not bad for purveyors of professional victimhood.
Thanks, and really, that’s excellent coming from one your age, but that’s exactly what we’re doing.
I’m sorry, but blacks overwhelmingly supported Prop 8.
I’d ask Jeff about this if he was still here, but it seems as if the only color group being asked to do anything at all active is white.
Yellow, brown are neutral.
Red has a possibility of activity.
Black retrogrades into a state of total non contribution to society. (which is a nice change from being “owed” something… but still)
By the way, if you think I’m being way too Debbie Downer for you, here’s a reality check: California is going broke and is literally about to run out of cash. Taxpayers are fleeing the state and its finances are getting worse each and every day because of it.
Meanwhile, the state’s primary concern, as evidenced by its “Republican” governor (wink, nod) still seems to be global warming, a phenomenon so dangerous, it’s not even occurring.
And your new HopeAndChange! masters want to symbolically turn the rest of America into…California.
It’s not Morning in America anymore folks.
“It was black people, of a like mind with the Lowreys of the world, who defeated proposition 8 in California”
Maybe that is what the Wikipedia entry is telling you. But I am suggesting to you that Prop 8 actually passed in California.
I’m also suggesting that you lay off the Mormons a bit.
Phil
I saw that on Cassy’s Wizbang post and I haven’t been able to spit out the nasty taste in my mouth.
Those kid actors weren’t saying something they think, they’re acting a script, words given them by a “progg” baby boomer I’d guess.
Now, understand that the celebrated (ha) progg baby boomers are only half of that generation. For every “hippy” who marched against ‘Nam, there was another boomer IN ‘Nam. For every round-heeled hippy chick, there was a young wife raising kids. The Media was fascinated with the filthy-mouthed students who really wanted to follow Ayers but after shaking their fists for the cameras slipped into basements to get stoned.
The giveaway in that obnoxious video? The littany of snarling demands (feed us! clothe us! shelter us! educate us! give us GOOD jobs!) for government goodies along with the “or else” threats is also the one shot of “end punative taxation”.
Say what?
I’ve been astounded to see how people’s worlds are rocked by the election of a black President. Blacks have been making gains in the arenas of wealth and power for quite a while. This was inevitable.
Too bad the President’s people let this old racist preacher keep alive a world that has been long gone. I do not believe that no one knew what he was going to say in his prayer. He’s an anachronism, not because he’s old but because he nurtures and keeps inflamed the wounds of the past. Just like the fool who said that Burris not being immediately let into the Senate was a paralled to black school children being denied entry to a school decades ago. Give me an effing break.
Darleen,
If only that were so. While you’re right that those ghoulish kids were paid actors, I am simply outnumbered by morons in my generations who sincerely believe there is such a thing as a free lunch. If exit polls are to be trusted (and they’re not, but they’re also not completely wrong), “young” voters voted for Obama 2 to 1. Now let’s assume that a QUARTER of these lemmings realize how silly they’ve acted in the past year, and how they got a little too “caught up in the moment” as some will undoubtedly do.
That still makes us the minority party. The HopeAndChange zealots are still a majority.
Just something to ponder.
Mel, I think I missed your farewell, but in case you see this:
Thanks for your service, and have a fine trip.
Phil: Obama got 52% of the vote, with massive financial and voter fraud in the bargain.
You think those HopeNChange Hippies are going to turn out for the House elections in two years?
I don’t.
That’s the entire House, remember. The House that controls all the money.
Spies,
Don’t get me wrong, I have little doubt Republicans will pick up a chunk of seats in 2010. The media will try to convince voters not to believe their lying eyes and empty wallets (remember, Chris Matthews thinks it’s his job “to make this a successful Presidency”) but voters above say 29 are not nearly that dumb.
My point is that people under 29 ARE overwhelmingly that dumb. It is not political hyperbole to say these people get much if not all of their news from the Daily Show. And when “free” health care is shoved down voter’s throats in the next two years, you know it will never be undone, regardless of the fact it’ll bankrupt the nation. The liberals win and America loses. Do you really think they give a damn?
Obama’s convinced these folks there are no tradeoffs – you can have your cake and eat it too. Then you can grab the bowl of icing and eat the rest of that too. And it won’t cost you a fucking dime! The rich (those evil bastards who work in the private, for-profit sector and actually produce things – a no no in the Obamanation) will pay for it! HopeAndChange!
I’m really, truly heartbroken to report this to you. But friends of mine, otherwise fairly intelligent people, have some reason largely fallen for this whole charlatan ruse. My conservative and libertarian friends are flabbergasted at how much disbelief has been suspended in order to maintain the ruse but the ruse is still very much in full force for now.
I just saw Mel off. If you are anywhere near Central Expressway, I would look out for the large tour bus. He calls it an RV, but damn that thing is big.
Thanks to all of you who wished him well. He really enjoyed reading the site. He wasn’t kidding when he said he didn’t know what a blog was. He’s not real technologically savvy and doesn’t really care.
He is a great man. Sometimes I wonder how many of those we have left.
P.S. Maggie, I think he has a crush!
heh. it’s probably mutual. as my sister said about one of our great-uncles, “I just want to put him in my pocket”
RTO didn’t get that, but I did.
If it wasn’t him, it was Josea Williams who got pulled over by a white cop for driving over a curb while picking up whores, drunk, on
StewartMetropolitan Avenue, here in Atlanta.So, the speech is all explained, and whitey is, as usual, to blame.
Standards, etc. How dare they!?!?!!!
I once had a relative who was purposely shy around people. His medical condition was episodic. Upon introduction to his all-American others he was customarily asked what he did for living and where he lived and then, that most unforgiving follow-up, why. Even when he accepted that admission of his illness was more widely accepted today versus yesterday, the misplaced societal stigmas led him to shyness. I can testify that he worked his ass off around the house without prod, but he was not fit to work.
The bridge of understanding from which I jump forward goes thusly: there was a time less significant than the present wherein a minority of the principals in the non-post-racial may never be understood by the majority in the post-racial, or shall I say the here and now. Just as it’s hard to understand why the Victorian British institutionalized women under auspices of hysteria when they responded to the news of their husbands’ mistresses, so was my mentally disabled relative’s fear of public reaction and unnecessary condemnation to a revelation of his disease. A victim not only of disease but of society’s impression of what he could be with that sort’a condition since, after all, so much had been said in the past under cover of hushed whispers of persons cursed with that condition.
The same is true of African ancestry. One’s skin color is not of one’s choosing, same as disease, nor is one’s last name (BMoe, fuck off with your that’s-so-obvious auto-reply). And if born in a society which stigmatizes color of skin, even when the victim finds comfort in understanding the psychological inevitability of weaknesses toward fallacies in the human condition, this never replaces that awkward gnawing and enduring pain.
A lack of empathy for those who did, without question, suffer from society’s misplaced anxieties and prejudices shouldn’t be mocked as it pertains to generations past. Especially and foremost because, after all, most in today’s society, black or white, never endured what they in the past so publicly suffered through. And you, Dan, already know that James Baldwin, et al, famously illuminated a literary recognition of the exploiters from within the black community. Therefore, I ask, what evidence do you have that today’s black majority has a collective blindness to the exploitation of their victimization and negritude? Do the math. Hold up your few. I’ll counter you with millions who refute.
If Barack Obama is metaphoric for a past that he shouldn’t ought’n’t (hickish syntax intended) be, then fuck it, that’s all the better in an ironic metaphoric refracted “plane of regard,” as Iosif Brodsky would say.
Deeper empathy is what I suggest, with a extended middle finger to Darleen and her horrid, cowardly lack thereof.
Regards,
thor (born a White God in the Paris of the most-patriotic part of the American prairie)
PS. If anyone were to ask, I’d say Dan Collins is more emotionally generous and intelligent than funny. And he’s a fuckin’ hoot-riot.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.
Comment by thor on 1/21 @ 2:18 am
lulz
wut?
Keg-party George is back in Texas. Don’t be drinking too much, Roland, else you might wake up in the morning in Midland with some souvenir George Bush juice in the back of your undies.
Not really. That makes it more offensive. Asking blacks, and everyone else, to give back is pretty standard stuff. “Ask not what your country can do for you…” Hoping for a day when blacks are no longer asked to “get back” suggests that the old fool hasn’t been out of the house in half a century and that he had no idea where he was or why he was there yesterday. Enough already.
But what we really need to do is get down to the important business of impeaching John Roberts.
Too bad I’m working in Shanghai thor, busy taking food off America’s tables.
Want me to find you some ladyboys?
You got yerself all wound up on Obamajuice, didn’t you?
Probably pounded your monkey flat watching your cosmic twin Olberdickhead cream his panties.
As Ron White said, if they weren’t pulling over everybody driving down that sidewalk, they were profiling.
Deeper empathy is what I suggest…
Except in the case of back woods, white trash, hillbilly hicktards. They can never rise above it.
Keg-party George is back in Texas. Don’t be drinking too much, Roland, else you might wake up in the morning in Midland with some souvenir George Bush juice in the back of your undies.
Couldn’t even make it past his next post. You are a piece of work, thor.
Does this idiot know one preacher that isn’t a flaming racist?
Yeah, Rick Warren.
How long till we hear “I can no more disown Lowery than I can my own racial slur using grandmother.”?
FOUL!
Grammies dead.
I’m sure that makes you some sort of -ist.
Well so are all the elected officials that endorsed legalized racism against AA’s except Robert Byrd.
“You have to understand that preacher lived in an America where the
powers that beDemocrats turned a firehose on him just because he marched for the right to vote.”TFTFY
The left has never embraced the right.
“White will embrace what’s right”
Laying around during the day, and making booty-calls at night.
-unintentional rhyme
This guys gig is to get white folks in a ninny.
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/feb/08/nation/na-coretta8
“She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way afar,†Lowery said. “We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. But Coretta knew, and we knew, that there are weapons of misdirection right down here. Millions without health insurance. Poverty abounds. For war, billions more, but no more for the poor.â€Â
Well which excuse is it? The way I figure it, the content should have bloody well been predicated on the situation: Don’t be dissin the skin in that bin, or something equally inane, insulting, outdated, crude, and up yourself.
Which makes him a race-baiter.
yellow will be mellow
F*cking Asians need to stop messing up the curve. Especially the ones that own grocery stores.
And thor? You’re infinitely better at obscenity and snark. Long, linear, coherent, and meaningful you haven’t any chops for. So stick to the obscene and smartassed. Go read something. Make another lecture on who the inside of your skull says we are on a given Wednesday and spare us the how-you-think embarrassment.
Yeh.
thor is yesterday’s shat. Someone should flush.
Does anyone believe that this speech was not cleared by the O! camp? How stupid do you have to be to believe that.
I agree… he was calling on the asians to stop overachieving in school and stuff. Its embarrassing.
The exception being the Japanese guy at my Post Office who makes buying 100 stamps a 15 minute long transaction even when I give him exact change. The 60 year old LSD addled hippie USPS lifer who looks like a weather underground fugitive gets it done in 30 seconds
So I denounce myself for stereotyping yellow because my USPS guy is way beyond mellow.
In fact he should get a seat in the front row at Lowery’s next speech so he can be acknowledged properly…. if he’s still around and I haven’t hopped the counter and throttled him.
I’ve learned how to operate the USPS point of sale equipment by leaning over the counter and watching him screw it up…. I see his finger poised over the “bad” button and resign myself to the transaction being deleted and starting over.
I look forward to Obama filling the ranks of the public service unions with more of this type of diversity and, and, well, attendance at their jobs
-57. Sadly true dan.
Lowery provided a useful moment of instruction for all with respect to the moral rot at much of the core of the so-called civil rights establishment. As a black conservative buddy of mine put it, and I paraphrase, “I can’t wait for these fuckers to hold a sit-in at my local high school because not enough Black kids are being tracked into physics and Calculus.”
In the days when Blacks could not use restrooms, Lowery was valid because precisely nothing else mattered. Sort of like in the second world war there really wasn’t much of a problem with gays in the military because everyone in uniform was focused on fighting in the bocage.
Once that ended, he, and much of his ilk, were revealed to be street level politicos with a thuggish world view that was every bit as closed minded as the people they railed against.
more importantly, Obama’s election killed the civil rights complex; its permanently off the table. Black people can never claim that the corridors of power are closed to them. This was the civil rights generation’s swan song. they had roles to play once, and they did so with bravery and verve. But all has passed them by.
Because they did great things once, and because most historians are liberal, their mistakes will be ignored and they will be fondly recalled in history’s later drafts.
Hey, I never knew the John Stewart show was funny!
My point is that people under 29 ARE overwhelmingly that dumb. It is not political hyperbole to say these people get much if not all of their news from the Daily Show. And when “free†health care is shoved down voter’s throats in the next two years, you know it will never be undone, regardless of the fact it’ll bankrupt the nation. The liberals win and America loses. Do you really think they give a damn?
Phil, have hope. I was “that dumb” when I as young. Learning doesn’t stop when you hit the age of 25. It is problematic when one isn’t confronted withy any ideas that challenge your worldview … when the media/movies/youtube are all part of your indoctrination.
But, we’re OUTLAWS now. The past 8 years, the left has been able to focus all it’s energy on attacks. With Baracky in office, they simply won’t have the same power. The extreme left is only weeks away from the start of their discontent.
Patrick, I used to frequent Dee Fords back in the day.
McGruder, it will never be off the table. There’s just frankly, too much money in it.
with a extended middle finger to Darleen and her horrid, cowardly lack thereof.
which is all Walthor Mitty can stiffen
I reject all collectivism and I reject the idea that lack of melanin conveys “privilege” or collective guilt just as melanin enrichment conveys collect ability to rap or inability to be monogamous.
To paraphrase a man, Jewish Jew, who went through the death camps “There are only two races in the world, the decent and the indecent.”
My father grew up dirt poor in Los Angeles, and attended LA High School where the black students were from middleclass and upperclass professional black families. He grew up in diversity and the attitude that racism is not only wrong but just stupid was how my sister and I were raised.
Being a racist is a choice regardless of the circumstance that gave rise to one’s own racism. I can understand why Rev Lowery might still harbor racist views of whites … but he was morally and ethically wrong to express them publicly. I have little sympathy for people who should know better.
But hey, I’m old-fashioned in that I don’t make “emotions” “perception” and “feelings” the gold coins of the realm.
The extreme left is only weeks away from the start of their discontent.
I wonder, Carin. Can you see any of our trolls turning on Obama? For anything? Think about it. Bush is gone, but they are still here, puking out hate.
I think Obama and his people are very smart about this. That’s why Obama will continue to talk about “restoring” American values. It keeps his people angry about the past and blinded to the present. That’s what Lowry was doing by bringing back old wrongs.
It reminds me of segregationist days in the old South. As LBJ once said, every time the poor whites grew discontented, all the politicians had to do was shout, “Niggers, niggers, niggers!” That distracted the poor whites’ from how the rich whites were hosing them.
Well, our trolls have drunk deep from the Obama koolaid … but how can the Code Pinkos be pleased with Obama? Short of the boys returning today, they claimed nothing less was what they wanted.
But, I have hope that at least part of the Obamabots will experience some change in the coming months.
Of course, I’ve already been called a “first rate extreme right wing, woman/gay/minority hating asshole” TODAY. So, perhaps my hope is misplaced.
But, hey, Carin, at least they recognized you’re first-rate!
lemme guess, Carin. Kitten of the Sea? there’s some crazy delicious anger in that one.
Yep, Maggie.
Rob, I guess there is some satisfaction in being recognized as first rate. So, I got that going for me, which is nice.
I know it won’t be a popular sentiment, but I do appreciate thor’s comment, straw man as it is. It was just nice to see something that the real trolls here just can’t do. Thor, speaking for just myself, I don’t begrudge Rev. Lowrey those feelings. Not at all. And I think 99% of the commenters here that you daily castigate, agree with me there. The older black generation has reams of reasons to be mad, skeptical or even vindictive. The only problem with Lowrey on that stage is that Obama has promised us a new post racial society. Lowrey broke that promise right out the gate. But, I, we, do have problems with younger blacks who play that card. They were never dealt it. You know this. Is there still racism? Of course. But it goes both ways, now. Blacks have power. One of the problems with young blacks is they confuse people not liking them because they’re either assholes, or perceived as assholes, with people not liking them due to their color. It’s bullshit and the honest blacks know this and are trying to educate the grievence mongers among them.
My white racist-y guilt was expunged yesterday, EXPUNGED I tell ya!
I appreciate that I don’t have to read thor’s comments. I’m sure the Good Reverend Lowery would appreciate this one.
I would also think that in the midst of all this hope for change that people like Lowery would be able to recognize change when they see it. Of course, I’d be wrong about that.
Funny, most observers thought Rev. Lowery stole the whole show.
Dog whistle -> dog ears?
No.
asshole -> alfie
So, alpo, O!bama gave a shitty speech?
so did the horse that pooped on the stage during the final performance of Cinderella I did in High School.
Funny, most observers thought Rev. Lowery stole the whole show.
Heh. And, prolly outside of PW, snippy doesn’t know ANYONE who didn’t vote for Obama.
Funny, most observers thought Rev. Lowery stole the whole show.
If that is the case why aren’t they showing this on TV? Why do I not see any articles about this except on right wing websites? Please repeat this far and wide I am sure everyone will think this ahole stole the show.
Why do you guys let Thor post at all?
My students and I had a viewing party- my comment to them was that I think he was chosen to give that benediction because of his race, not the quality of his character or the content of his message. He was a racist pick, picked to give racist comments, and he delievered, as expected.
Thor posts? Who knew?
I don’t begrudge Rev. Lowrey those feelings. Not at all…. The older black generation has reams of reasons to be mad, skeptical or even vindictive.
Toward “yellows,” also, OI? Please explain.
As I noted in an earlier thread, for a number of people race relations in the United States are on a loop that goes from slavery to Selma and then repeats. It never moves past Selma. It isn’t amazing that Rev. Lowrey is still there in the far past when he was young, it is that so many other people much younger than he are there. It disturbs me that there are so many that are still locked in that loop and can’t move past it, because they are not dealing with reality.
Rev. Lowrey does not have to deal with that reality, he is walking off the stage, his time is done. But those twenty, thirty, forty years younger than him? They have to deal with the fact that Selma is in the past and isn’t the present. Failure to adjust to that means that opportunity is lost and needless damage is taken.
“Comment by Cincinnatus on 1/21 @ 11:49 am #
Why do you guys let Thor post at all?”
hor doesn’t so much post as shits on Jeff’s rug.
Obviously not, Salt Lick and I apologize for any confusion. I was thinking about the “feelings” he may have towards the white (in power) community. Obviously, being a victim of something doesn’t grant you the right to turn around and do the same thing to another group. For that he was an asshole, to be sure. Again, his presence did not look to good for any honest Obamatons looking for a “post racial” world.
Why is it that impassioned is a good thing in this regard? To me, it just makes it worse.
Is it that passions are sufferings JD? And that sufferings, in turn, are ennobling (at least in the ordinary, albeit false, modern parlance of ennobling)?
Did you mean ennobling or ignobling? ;-)
I probably wouldn’t mean either ennobling nor ignobling, as I don’t think sufferings tend to do either one. I was just aiming at what my guess about the headline writer was thinking.
Cincinnatus, Jeff lets Thor (and Snippy, and DD, etc.) post here because conservatives/libertarians/classical liberals believe that you do not defeat Statists and Socialists by copying their tactics of silencing dissenting opinions.
The answer to idiocy is openly debating it with our superior arguments, not silencing it by force. We must not become like those we detest, we don’t need to.
LC — there’s a difference between silencing opinions and refusing to let people shit on your rug.
Chicago comes to DC. Starts the process of spreading the beauty and loveliness of the South Side to the nation. More to come no doubt.
Those noble savages would argue with you, Sdferr. Racist. lol
Where did racism begin? When did it begin? Where (if anywhere) did the idea of a racial determination of Human capacities begin? Can we point definitively to the time and place, to the mind or small number of minds in which this idea found its origination? Was that idea, in turn, dependent on an inadequate notion of race; a facile notion, I might add ex post facto, that I seriously doubt could be justified on logical, biological, historical, truthful terms, but was accepted thoughtlessly as a concept beyond need of definition when it was anything but? Can we then see the cause of this pernicious meme in those minds, to the track of illogic and emotion, if emotion it was, that led them to it?
The first time australopithecus flung poo at Homo habilis.
Is Flung Poo mellow yellow?
I codnmen myself as racist.
McGehee, you speciesist.
Come on now. He’s just putting the dick in benedickshun.
You jest McGehee and that’s ok by me, but I still wonder whether the presumed truth anchor behind your joke is in fact the case. I don’t know. Nothing I’ve read in ancient thought leads me to believe it to be the case. Aristotle, for instance, in the Politics speaks of the possibility that some people are “slaves by nature”, but his fumbling definition of such people has nothing to do with race defined as skin color and everything to do with individual habits of thought and action based on his dualistic ideas of soul and body on the one hand or in the presence or absence of Hellene-like habits of civilization (referring to barbarians) on the other. Had these Greeks gone to the trouble to define away a previously existing (inherited) definition of race determining superiority/inferiority? I don’t see the evidence of that.
The answer to idiocy is openly debating it
They are not debating.
They are using Alinsky tactics.
There’s a difference.
Skin color is a common signifier of race, but not the only one.
Persians and Arabs. Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans.
Look into the etymology of “Slav”.
I am aware of this SBP. Is racism defined by skin color simply inadequate to the uses to which it is put?
“Why do you let thor post at all?”
Because no one here has the moderation time (or the desire) to keep up with his sock-puppeting, IP-switching, bandwidth-stealing ass.
Trollhammer works just fine for me.
Well, the practical advantage of making slaves out of people of a different color is that it’s hard for them to escape by pretending to be a free man.
If you have skin-based slavery, even after slavery is abolished the skin color remains as a visible reminder of that person’s former status. That doesn’t happen nearly as much if the former slaves don’t present a distinctive appearance (though it does happen… the Burukumin in Japan are still discriminated against as marriage partners by requiring the prospective spouse to show what temple(s) his or her ancestors worshiped in back in the 19th century. The temples were strictly segregated. “Wrong” temple = Burukumin ancestry).
So, I don’t think that skin color discrimination is necessarily a worse form of racism than other forms, but it tends to be harder to root out.
Burakumin. Sorry for the misspelling.
One of the better writings on racism I’ve encountered is in the fiction story “Press Enter” by John Varley. It’s also a good story.
Burakumin? Is that anything like Bakugan?
yes, JD, except without that one thing.
Because no one here has the moderation time (or the desire) to keep up with his sock-puppeting, IP-switching, bandwidth-stealing ass.
Yes. As I’ve said before, our time is worth something. His time is worth nothing.
American white Southern racism from the slave owning class arose from guilt, The Christian religion indicating you have to treat all humans as brothers and sisters, so the slave, by necessity, has to be described as sub-human.
As least that’s my theory.
Alright, maggie. You stumped me. What is that one thing ?!
you know, that thing.
I give up …
Oh, by the way, Madeline Grace sleeps with your blanket every night, maggie.
Other sites have it as when black will not be asked to get in back.
Why substitute when black will not be asked to give back?
More Dog whistle-> Dog ears stuff?
Oh, for Allah’s sake, STFU, turnip.
I’m just messin’ with ya, JD. glad to hear the blanket is holding up.
She love it. I am also teaching her that all root vegetables are Teh Stoopid.
alpo -> idiot
alpo < idiot
alpo < dirt
Well, it seems only fair that if you want to find imaginary taunts in what a person says, you have an obligation to quote what they said correctly.
As a yankee, I never know when there’s some code wordin’ going on.
I am also teaching her that all root vegetables are Teh Stoopid.
HEY!
Heather, maybe you should consider changing your screen name? I mean, if by some bizarre twist of fate I’d picked Carincleo all those years ago… I would have changed.
Just saying.
“Comment by parsnip on 1/21 @ 3:05 pm #
Well, it seems only fair that if you want to find imaginary taunts in what a person says, you have an obligation to quote what they said correctly.
As a yankee, I never know when there’s some code wordin’ going on.”
Here’s a code word, alpo:
FOAD.
Slowly and painfully.
And alfie?
I mean that with all sincerity.
maybe you should ask the USA Today reporter, why she used that word?
The answer to idiocy
It is not idiocity.
It is stark raving lunacy.
Combined with a vicious torrets like syndrome that tends to center itself around homophobic rantings.
ship, as a brain-dead, stunted nancy-boy, earnestly pretending to be a man, you NEVER know what’s going on.
It’s not hard to see the victim card is being played here, ginsocal…with the usual touch of racism on the side.
Pretty much defines far right politics these days.
Not much of a winning strategy, what?
“During various water shortages in California in the 1970s signs appeared in public bathrooms with the conservationist suggestion: “If it’s brown, flush it down. If it’s yellow, let it mellow.” Yes: yuck, gross, ick. Flushing toilets always seemed like a reasonable use of water to me. I understand that there is some cultural debate about this. Actually, the original jingle was a personal favorite of former California Governor Jerry Brownâ€â€an early ‘conservationist.'”
Comment 188 was a pretty good synopsis of left politics. And they won with that.
Hmmmmm.
Who’s playing the victim card, asswipe? We’re juat pointing out evidence that we were right about this asshole, and punks like yourself were, and remain, hideously deluded. The jackals are in charge now, aven true-beliving cockholsters like snip and thoroid are in for some significant unpleasantness.
The Rev. Lowery was a leader of the Civil Rights movement, gin.
Calling him a “jerkwater fuckwad” and an “asshole” just seems like sour grapes.
Your side lost.
Deal.
“Comment by parsnip on 1/21 @ 5:20 pm #
The Rev. Lowery was a leader of the Civil Rights movement, gin.”
Gotta love how he fought the Democrats, very admirable.
BTW, alpo, what are you still doing here?
Didn’t you promise you were going to kill yourself?
What’s up with that?
Today’s PSA:
Nipply is not here to debate. It is here to waste your time.
Your time is worth something. Its time is worth nothing.
If you respond to it, it wins.
N.O’Brain, Christianity is relatively silent on the actual institution of slavery based on the actual NT. It obviously accepts that slavery exists as an institution, and there are several admonishments on how masters should treat their slaves properly. The problem is that there are also several verses that exhort slaves to bear their slavery well. None of these, IIRC, are the actual words of Christ, but rather various Apostles in their Letters. What seems to have happened is that as Christians considered the matter of slavery, many of them became convinced the institution was incompatible with Christ’s actual words on how you should treat your fellow Man.
Since the words of the Christ are a higher source of authority than that of the Apostles, that was reason enough. One reason that slavery is still practiced within Islam is that Mohammad specifically encouraged Muslims to enslave non-believers, and there is no higher source of authority to appeal to.
MAJOR Lulz on the “Full of Hatred” thread, Exhibit A:
“Hi Magic-Faggot-of-Diamonds. Please show your spine by posting what you’re mumbling when you type Magic Negro, namely – Nigger!”
Hehe….
Sorry for the threadjack. Right, then. Carry on.
It seems to me that the salient point is that slavery drags racism into being, that it didn’t work in the other direction, namely racism dragging slavery into being. Racism appears to be a cop to a witting injustice, a cover, a lie fit to excuse the knowing crime. And it fails. How it fails.
Spies is, of course, correct. From here on, no ore replies, or even recognition of the fetid exitance of snip, thoroid, asshat, dateless dave, etc. Just this final “Fuck off, wretched scum. We have no need of your odious presence. In the name of God, go.”
Waving the white flag, gin?
I accept your surrender.
What is funny (odd funny, not ha-ha funny) about ‘race’ is that in the nineteenth century race meant ethnicity. The British were the ‘island race’ and so on. I am not providing a cite, it was common enough in the literature of that day. Race has been a remarkably fluid term.
“Please show your spine…”? Is that what you are attempting when you call people faggots? Trying to prove what a big brave tough guy you are?
I have read a fair amount of Civil War era literature and correspondence where parties from both sides commonly refer to the peculiarities of the “Northern race” or “Southern race”, Mikey, so apparently it was a cultural referent as well.
The fluidity you cite Mikey is part and parcel of its garbagecan heart. It’s almost as if people thought, “…Gotta crappy idea? Through it into that shite-can over there and be assured people won’t look at it too hard.”
Sorry about that, Heather. Oops!
STFU, sniffles/alphtard/turnip.
Sorry, throw, not through……..
“Post-racial post-partisan, my ass.”
Which must make his resounding popularity hurt even more for those in the opposition. I mean, it would be one thing if his popularity was because he was working across the aisle, etc… But, it appears, to you, that no. Sorry!
Resounding popularity? 52% Meya voted for him.
“Resounding popularity? 52% Meya voted for him.”
And now he’s got like an over 80-some approval rate for the transition, winning over the other side in the election, and maybe even some people who were still giving bush a positive approval.
Here’s a nice metric: How many computer keyboards were destroyed by removing the W in 2000 versus removing the O in 2008?
Thought so….
erm, link? I haven’t been able to find anything over low 70’s
nevermind, found it.
everyone seems really excited about having a tax-cheat in charge of the IRS.
If Meya thinks that 80% of the country is happy he is president … well, she’s insane. Approval rating (for the transition) is not the same thing.
It’s funny, because we get lectured to support him, and when some do, liberals turn around and stick the knife in our back saying that support = popularity.
I’m not going to let you get away with this.
“everyone seems really excited about having a tax-cheat in charge of the IRS.”
Seems like you’ve found your link and a way to deal with it too.
I’m really excited about closing down Gitmo. How ’bout housing them in Detroit? We’ve already got a pretty good arab population.
“I’m not going to let you get away with this.”
You found the link too huh?
and some really cheap housing.
I’m really excited about all those make-work jobs! Roads and bridges! I mean, construciton was winding down around here and traveling was getting too easy.
You know who else is involved in the transition? George Bush.
Meya, I could give a shit about a link. I’m not letting you say a fact means anything other than what it means.
but so really, what we’re getting at is it’s okay to hang with racists so long as you’re popular.
I can’t wait until we start repairs those inner city schools w/o making any sort of radical changes that will prevent them from being torn up (again) w/in a few years! YEA, MONEY!
Detroit is also REALLY good at stealing that money that’s supposed to be in the classroom.
Ooh, way to circle it back on topic, Maggie. Bravo.
yeah, figured I wouldn’t go down that rabbit hole. I’ll get better at it, I swears.
He has a high approval rating because he hasn’t done anything yet, meya.
Unfortunately he probably won’t take the hint. None of them do.
t 80% of the country is happy he is president
Oh what a tiny minority the Obama haters are.
Talk about irony.
What is ironic is the lefts projection of their Bush hatred on everyone else.
What is ironic is that by 2012 many current Obama worshippers are going to hate him far worse than any of us do.
meya
that 80% “approval” rating…for what? Because The One mostly acted civilly towards the Bushes during the transition? Certainly it has nothing to do with actually being President because TODAY is the first day on-the-job.
And what you also see in the “80%” (my how you like rounding up) is a ton of McCain voters who are willing to wish our new President well and take a wait-and-see attitude towards his policies.
Sharp contrast with the Leftbabies at the inaugurals in 2001 and 2005 and who acted shamefully as Bush yesterday.
And the shameful Obama team who couldn’t restrain themselves from joining in … the only question was Obama aware and approved like he did when his team went after Hillary?
I’m waiting for Obama to distance himself from Lowery … if not and the “poem” was vetted by his people then Obama is as duplicitous as he showed during the campaign and any of that crossover good will is going to evaporate right quick.
What’s wrong with Bush, B Moe?
Contrary to what you right wing extremists think, most lefties saw Bush as an amiable dunce along the lines of Reagan.
Hating Bush would be like hating Forest Gump.
Sorta related, B Moe – Andrew’s got a nice post over at the Pub.
What is ironic is they don’t already hate Obama for suspending the due process of the prisoners at Gitmo while he tries to decide what he’s gonna do with them.
“but so really, what we’re getting at is it’s okay to hang with racists so long as you’re popular.”
Not at all. I’m saying that his high approval must sting even more if he’s “hang[ing] with racists.”
“He has a high approval rating because he hasn’t done anything yet, meya.”
Like all incoming new presidents, I guess.
but you say that like it’s a good thing.
you’re all “damn right he does, and he’s POPULAR!!!eleventy!”
His approval rating doesn’t sting in the slightest, Meya, because it means so little to me. Just as Bush’s ratings didn’t keep me up at night.
You know who was really unpopular? That Lincoln fellow.
“Comment by parsnip on 1/21 @ 7:02 pm #
Oh what a tiny minority the Obama haters are.”
Nobody around here hates O!bama, you retarded marmoset.
I think we should do what Murtha wants … send the Gitmo boys to his district.
Contrary to what you right wing extremists think, most lefties saw Bush as an amiable dunce along the lines of Reagan.
Hating Bush would be like hating Forest Gump.
Wow. I thought it would take longer than one day.
Like all incoming new presidents, I guess.
Exactly. He hasn’t done anything to piss anybody off yet. He has no where to go but down, just like all new Presidents.
“but you say that like it’s a good thing.”
That JD is stung? Oh then maybe my tone isn’t coming across the internet very well.
“You know who was really unpopular? That Lincoln fellow.”
I’m sure. Many folks went so far as to commit treason over the dude.
When are the oceans going to recede?
I think we should do what Murtha wants … send the Gitmo boys to his district.
Send them to his house. And let the Marines he slandered drop them off.
“You know who was really unpopular? That Lincoln fellow.â€Â
Why is O! the communist comparing himself to a Rethuglican?
‘Exactly. He hasn’t done anything to piss anybody off yet.’
Oops, turns out this is a high in approval over the last 3 decades.
cause he’s just that RACIST!!?
so? that makes it still okay to hug this Reverend after this benediction. w007!
Oops, turns out this is a high in approval over the last 3 decades.
Which proves that Obama is the best at not doing anything we have ever seen, which should surprise no one given how much practice he has had at it.
Bush had a 90% approval rating after 9/11. So, nope, it’s not the highest.
PRESENT!
I say snippy and Meya print out that approval rating and frame it. But it over the fireplace. Gild it. Enjoy it while it lasts.
And, if you think it means ANYTHING, you’re retarded.
Heh! B Moe wins the thread.
And we have new post NOW? Cripes …
This wasn’t the Hope and Change I was promised.
Can we have a new post now …
“cause he’s just that RACIST!!?”
Ask Rev Wright who ain’t white if that’s right.
Oh, poor Carin
You gonna make it 8 long years?
Doesn’t look like you’ve made it a day.
Can we have a new post now …
No Hope No Change
It’s pretty quiet around here. I come home, dine, and there’s no dessert?
I WANT POST PIE~!
“You gonna make it 8 long years?”
Major O! f**k up in 6 months.
Major O! f**k up in 6 months.
That’s about when the economy will turn around, doggie.
Hello 90% approval for Teh One!
Six months? I think there was one today. Obonga’s on the verge of shutting down Gitmo; he’s delayed the trial of that fat hairy bastard..that’s fubar if you ask me.
“Comment by parsnip on 1/21 @ 7:10 pm #
What’s wrong with Bush, B Moe?
Contrary to what you right wing extremists think, most lefties saw Bush as an amiable dunce along the lines of Reagan.”
And that statement proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, for forever and a day, what a retarded marmoset you really are, alpo.
BTW, can you fly a jet fighter?
“Bush had a 90% approval rating after 9/11. So, nope, it’s not the highest.”
Sorry I wasn’t clear. Highest for a transition / incoming president. Its almost at ‘national crisis’ level like bush’s was, but not there.
Actually, snippy, if I didn’t fear for my country, I’d say the next four years could be a lot of fun.
could be? I’m already giggling. mostly at that Ace O’ Spades Michele Obama dress thing, but still. oh and just listened to the voicemail. you should have seen RTO’s eyebrows shoot up.
“That’s about when the economy will turn around, doggie.”
Jimmy Obama pal. 4 years of stagflation.
“Sorry I wasn’t clear. Highest for a transition / incoming president.”
Um, so what?
Honestly, this is boring me to TEARS meya. TEARS. Obama’s high transitions numbers are the result of many factors.
Few, in any, have any meaning. Outside of picking a few folks (and some of those choices were flawed) he’s not done a damn thing for anyone to “approve” of. He has merely been Teh One.
I bet black people approve of his how he’s done so far close to 100%. think that number has much meaning?
I thought that curtain bit was funny too.
“Jimmy Obama pal. 4 years of stagflation.”
That’s what really worries me, the possibility of his so called “economic program” being enacted by Congress.
What’s the over/under on how long the depression lasts?
You know, Ace’s site has that trait about it that makes it work as a blog… I find it hard to define … I’m grasping … trying to put into words exactly how he does that magic …
OH YEA, he posts daily.
Obama has presence, but no substance. He’s a rookie pretending to know what to do. The reason he brought so many of Clinton’s cronies (AND a Clinton) into his inner circle? Because he has no clue what to do next.
There’s no wingman. Bush had Cheney, and Rove, good men. Who’s got Obama’s back?
Oh, kewl, the O! is going to allow torture:
” “At least two more executive orders are expected in coming days, according to two Obama officials.
One official said the first will require all U.S. personnel to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual while questioning detainees. The manual explicitly prohibits threats, coercion, physical abuse and waterboarding, which creates the sensation of drowning and has been termed a form of torture by critics.
The second order will set up a study of interrogation methods that could be added to the Army manual, including some that may be more aggressive than those currently permitted.â€Â
HAH!
Sorry, that was via Patterico.
He forbids torture before he allows it.
Has he picked out a dog for them little girls, yet? Hell, he could lose five or ten points just picking wrong there.
“I bet black people approve of his how he’s done so far close to 100%. think that number has much meaning?”
As much as white people, I’d say. Or maybe three fifths?
Have I picked out a dog yet I mean.
*yawn*
Lemme know when you’re interested in discussing something other than meaningless approval numbers.
the insult “amiable dunce” was invented long long ago to define Joe Biden… the very best man Obama could find in the total sum of the Democratic party.
Calling Bush an amiable dunce really diminishes Biden’s body of work over the last 36 years… every Democrat and Republican should pray every night for Obama’s health and safety
Carin
In high school popularity is everything! Really!!! Tiger Beat RULEZ!
Whoa, whoa, your Dad? What years are we talking Darleen, because I don’t think there were many, if any at all, high schools that were full of kids from middle and upper class black families back then. And you can quote anyone you want who talks of the macro, and you can tell us how you were raised, but that wasn’t the problem back then, now was it? The problem is most people, evidently, weren’t raised like you, either that or they didn’t act like it.
There weren’t simply a few indecent among the decent back in the day. There were laws, in fact, that barred people of color from employment, and segregated schools. That you turn a blind eye and/or deny the truth is what makes you coward at best, and an enabler to denialists at worst.
Take that you’ll extol America’s heroic European invasion and defeat of Hitler in WWII, with nary a word of the Russians who were more responsible for actually defeating Hitler, but if one mentions those were the same years wherein blacks in America still suffered from institutionalized racism you’ll feign a hazy memory of such foggy notions of so-called racism, after all, you come from a family of Irish slaves, treated just as badly as blacks, sans the chains and whips, sans the Jim Crow laws, sans a civil war required to free the Irish slaves, albeit the Irish were victim of segregation since they weren’t allowed to drink from the same water fountain as their black former-slave brothers. That’s genius.
If a black man old enough to have witnessed American society’s crimes against his race, old enough to have been denied opportunities in the past, if he wants to remind America of what he went through, I’m not going to stand and judge him for doing so. He’s not only earned the right to his opinion but per our Constitution has the right to speak his mind. And that right extends to a Presidential inauguration as well as down at the coffee shop.
May we have a new post now?
Madam Librar-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-re-en!
The Barack Presidency
Just the latest ponzi scheme masquerading as a speculative bubble.
Thor/Parsnip/Meya are the informercial extolling the values of jumping on board. Act now and you’ll get 2 for the price of one. Internet only special.
It made thors crooked yellow teeth, straight and white (bling)
Parsnip had no brain, but now can read the encyclopedia (bling)
Meya used to be black, now she’s post racial (bling)
Remember, you DON’T want to be the last one on board.
Change post.
Yahoo reporting that Caroline Kennedy withdraws from NY Senator race.
I grew up in the 60s and 70s in West Virginia, thor, and went to school with black kids who worked at the same factory as my father, and we were mostly taught prejudice and bigotry was wrong. Sure there were some racists and bigots around, but it wasn’t all Jim Crow segregationists and racism everywhere by any means, dude.
Yeah, well, after a few pints and a half-bottle of gin I become very impressed with myself, this I won’t deny. I think I was going for a Oscar Romero cocktail with a dash of Dostoyevsky, but who knows.
Obscene and smartassed is my calling, yep, yep.
An apology extended to Dan is one is needed.
But you know blues guitarists, so, like, you’re enlightened far beyond the average ReThuGliDum (kidding). Seriously, anyone who appreciates the subtle cleverness of Clarence Gatemouth Brown’s lead licks in songs such as I Got My Mojo Workin’ can’t be all that bad a guy.
I pose this question, why is there such a mixed response toward the dark aspects of our American history versus the most glorious days in our past?
I say it’s due to nationalism. Nationalism isn’t bad unless it goes unchecked, citing Hitler’s Germany as an example.
“Comment by meya on 1/21 @ 7:50 pm #
“I bet black people approve of his how he’s done so far close to 100%. think that number has much meaning?â€Â
As much as white people, I’d say. Or maybe three fifths?”
Sorry, babe, it ain’t gonna work not more.
The black guy won.
Comment by thor on 1/21 @ 9:08 pm #
Sure, hor, that’s nice.
[smiles and nods]
I pose this question, why is there such a mixed response toward the dark aspects of our American history versus the most glorious days in our past?
I am not sure what you mean exactly, my main gripe is with people who can only see the dark side of American history and refuse to balance it with the good. That is just as bad, if not worse, as only recognizing the glory. Learn from your mistakes, but be mindful of the power of positive thought and don’t dwell on the negative or try to change things that have already happened.
And of course that assumes that the poll wasn’t overweighted in favor of Democrats.
“Sorry, babe, it ain’t gonna work not more.
The black guy won.”
Post-racial, because he has race.
Whats with the babe stuff?
Hey Bmoe, and you too thor pigbag: I’m one of those fuckers that gets passed over by both your boys Bush and Obama. They both want to toss billions at a hole in the wall. Sick.
Meep? What are you talking about? (I really don’t know.)
#296
On this we can agree. Guess who’s gonna pay when the bill comes due? Just when you think you’re getting a little ahead……………..BAM!
Oh man, I just found out Lowery was referencing an old freedom song / rhyme. The Intentionalism! it burns!
meya, if there’s some context driven meaning we have missed, you might want to tell us what it is. Unless it’s a secret.
Pablo – The context is that he is a Leftist, and old, and can therefore say whatever the fuck he wants and it is racist to point out that he made overty racist comments. Nuance.
Wierd. Lowery’s words brought me right to this.
[…] confused; is this what that doofus meant by “black will not be asked to give back?” I am concerned, as I’m sure many of you […]
well then, shouldn’t he have given credit for it? or at least an “as the song says”…?
“well then, shouldn’t he have given credit for it? or at least an “as the song saysâ€Â…?”
My how the search for offense grows.
The offense is right out in the open. You were going to show us an excuse via intentionalism, weren’t you, meya? How is that coming along?
hmmmmm, so intentionalism includes mangling.. I did not know that.
actually, I should have said, “He made some interesting changes to the lyrics. I don’t think the “Intentionalism” helps his case as much as you might think”