Heck, an Obama staffer is on tape offering the furious Blago no more than “appreciation” for giving the seat to Obama’s preferred candidate.
Um, no . . . unless you’ve heard parts of the tapes that we haven’t Kirsten. I wouldn’t make such a big deal about it, except that considering the topic, it’s pretty lame.
Yeah, I didn’t think there was tape of an actual conversation (that has been released yet, anyway). I thought what we knew so far was that Blago was upset that Team Lightworker would offer only “appreciation”, this knowledge being gained by osmosis, mental telepathy, or innate understanding of The Goodness And Harmony That Is He Who Shall Lead Us To Eternal Content.
Kirsten Powers gave somebody head. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. But it wasn’t me. That’s not great.
Yeah, well it would be a waste if all it did was talk.
It talks?
Reports have Blago on tape fuming about the “gratitude” O was willing to share with Blago. Nothing yet about who offered this gratitude and in what venue.
Which is no kind of segue to asilly gif that isn’t even related to this topic.
Sneed says there are 21 tapes of Rham talking to Blago office. Seems like a lot of “contacts” just to say were not playing ball.
Kirsten Powers, Liz Stephens, I’d go Dan on both.
Seems like a lot of “contactsâ€Â
Well, they probably wanted to coordinate outfits for the inauguration. Otherwise they could end up too matchy-matchy.
Rahm Emmanuel seems to be given to theatrics and/or dramatics. For all the worried talk about Rahm for his 1990’s incident where he would name an enemy’s name, stab the table, and then say “DEAD!”, my reaction was that Rahm was reenacting a scene from “The Untouchables”.
Likewise, this “no more than appreciation” bit seems to be right out of “Godfather II” when Vito gives the Senator his answer regarding the Senator’s demands for graft.
If Emmanuel grabs Reid and kisses him on the lips during a party on the night of January 20th, we’ll know whether the Obama Presidency will simply be one of bringing film scenes to life.
Sneed hears rumbles President-elect Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is reportedly on 21 different taped conversations by the feds  dealing with his boss’ vacant Senate seat!
A lot of chit-chat?
Hot air?
Or trouble?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/1333057,CST-NWS-SNEED16.article
Otherwise they could end up too matchy-matchy.
That’s not a bad thing. They can issue everyone attending the inauguration a Mao jacket, cute matching cap, and a little red book to hold in the air. Then everybody’s equal!!!!!!!
Likewise, this “no more than appreciation†bit seems to be right out of “Godfather II†when Vito gives the Senator his answer regarding the Senator’s demands for graft.
It’s been awhile since I’ve watched The Godfathers (except for III, I’m not a masochist), but I don’t remember that scene… can you expand?
That’s a great idea, DarthRove, but The Story of O has already been used.
it’s a scene during the wedding when Senator Geary is in Michael’s study and tells Michael what his pay-to-play terms are for the Corleone family taking ownership of the casinos.
Geary then insults Michael, Italians, and Michael’s family.
Michael tells Geary that his pay-to-play offer is “nothing”
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Blagojevich must have been surprised if/when he was told that Obama wasn’t going to play along.
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Ahhh, now I have it. Thanks for the reminder, that is a great scene. Especially when the Senator finds himself in bed with the dead hooker. Good leverage, that.
Yeah, the part of the dead hooker will be played by the Illinois state democratic party.
What’s notable about Kirsten’s characterization – and that of the Left-o-sphere of Rahm is that he’s merely “a staffer.”
No plenipotentiary, he.
Tom Hagen:
This girl has no family — nobody knows that she worked here. It’ll be as if she never existed. All that’s left is our friendship.
Is Obamarat finished with “My Pet Goat”?
…when Vito gives the Senator his answer …
It was Michael. Vito was long dirt napping by then.
/technicalities
I hate to be the lone dissenting voice here, but I think she was right. I took away from the excerpts I’ve read that were released that some unnamed Obama staffer refused to offer a bribe. Clearly, this doesn’t explain why he didn’t turn in the person offering, but I think Ms. Powers is correct in her statement. What’s the problem here?
21 conversation is a lot of jaw-jaw for a simple task like delivering a list, isn’t it?
SPcastles, from what has been released we can certainly infer that there were conversations from the simple fact that Blago’s boyz knew that “appreciation” was all they would get.
However, nothing that has been released in transcript has something like, “[Unnamed Obama staffer #3]: You ain’t gettin’ nuttin’ from us, Rug-boy!” Unless I’m behind in my reading, that is. And while reports of 21 conversations are out there, we don’t know what the content of those 21 conversations are.
And that’s the mistake, saying the transcript says something it doesn’t actually say.
I believe you are naive SPcastles.
Here is what we do know.
1)Blagojebitch was selling the Senate seat.
2)He was talking to Rahm Emanuel about who should get the seat.
3)We have a SELLER, talking to a prosepective BUYER. Correct me where I am factually incorrect.
4)We have no knowledge of Obama or Emanuel offering something, in fact we have a pissed of Blagobitch, nad that they would not offer anything.
5)The obvious conclusion is that a SALE was discussed.
6)What should the WHITE HOUSE Chief of Staff do upon being offered a Senate seat for a QUID PRO QUO?
Emanuel is toast.
SPcastles, what you have read is accounts of what Blago had to say on the matter. Powers puts words in the wrong mouth.
The content of the conversations may be released at some point but that is not now. Your “take away” is based on incomplete information coming out of Blago’s mouth. What discussions were had may have included more subtle dealing or implied help, or backtracking or who knows what. I would have to hear an official account of what Rahm or other Obama associates said in dealings with Blago before concluding what Powers has concluded.
For the 76 page FBI complaint:
HARRIS said, “you can count on [Senate
Candidate 4] to do that.†Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows
that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing
to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.â€Â
One might take away that Obama’s folks refused to deal in a blatant bribe scheme, but perhaps their offers were subtle or merely implied. But Blago’s remarks do not reassure that they have clean hands altogether, and they definately don’t show Obama knew nothing of negotiations or attempts to sell the seat.
You are correct Sarah. What will hang Emanuel is, his voice, and the way in which he plays politics. If you know anything about Emanuel, you’ll know he has an ego as big as Blagoyebitch’s hair.
Emanuel and Blagoyebitch didn’t chat like church ladies. They were talking turkey and Emanuel will comes off as an arogant political hack.
Libs will hang their hats on the refusal to give a bribe, but Emanuel is finished in Washington if the tape is aired publically. He’s a jack ass with a big foul mouth already. Hearing it on the NIGHTLY NEWS will cook Emanuels’ goose.
On a related note, Powers is a typical naive lib. She has the deer in the headlights lib look. But I’d do her. Twice.
I’m saying the talked turkey. It’s what those people do. I will qualify that with maybe it isn’t on tape, but they talked, and their taped conversations will imply that to an extent that intellectually honest people will be convinced.
Riddle me this, how does one proclaim an investigation has proven no inappropriate contacts and then in a presser today O say:
“He cut off a reporter who sought to ask about reports that incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel was on the wiretap tapes, saying he has not confirmed the reports and would not comment on them.“
Obamarat: I’m not a Blago.
I’ll say what I’ve said before at other sites.
AFAIK, what’s on tape is BLAGO’s evaluation of the consideration he was going to get for appointing someone on the OBAMA’S LIST. If BLAGO didn’t think it was good enough, that says more about BLAGO than it says about what Team O did or didn’t offer.
I think Team O went to Blago with an offer something like this. Play along with us, flatter the five or six *other* people on this list by telling them His O’ness recommended they be considered for his barely-used Senate seat, appoint Jarret, and we’ll “take care of you” when your term is up.
A totally reasonable offer, a little (wink) (wink) (nudge) (nudge), that any other person would probably have jumped at.
What they didn’t bank on is that Blago is 1) dense, 2) greedy, and mostly importantly, 3) desperate to finish cashing in on his office before Fitz and various other players in the Chicago cesspool run him out of town on rail. (Impeachment had already been floating in the air before Obama even got the nomination, let alone elected IIRC).
By the time Team O figured out that Blago wasn’t just calling folks to let them know they made Obama’s short list, there was no way that they could get the horse back in the barn.
Now they know that Fitz has them on tape, and probably has somebody that will talk about the initial offer from Team O. Even though it’s likely that there was nothing truely illegal in the conversations between Team O and Team Blago, Blago’s later actions make it *look* really bad.
The problem with liberal women such as Kirsten is they offer no challenge. What good is scoring a chick who will say yes to anyone who asks?
Like Amanda Marcotte? Oh, wait, she only fucks proggs. A lot of proggs.
Kirsten Powers didn’t get those round lips by eating square meals.
I would do Kirsten for practice, then Megyn Kelly, then…..
I agree with what you guys are saying, but I suppose I made the same assumption Powers did. Obviously, if Blagojovich is talking about it, there will be a contact on the tapes somewhere. I don’t see that as being naive, because it doesn’t seem particularly good for the libs either way. The people who voted for Obama have a great deal emotionally invested in him. If he gets caught stealing or taking bribes or sleeping around, they will WANT to believe it is someone else’s fault. Just that simple, people (not just the press) will WANT to excuse him.
Sweet Mother of God, who would f@#$ Amanda Marcotte???
John Edwards would.
Easy, tsk9. The Rahm contacts were not “inappropriate”, and it’s plausible that they weren’t. But the stonewalling game doesn’t look good.
And fellas, the KIRSTEN IS A LIBRUL WHORE comments are unbecoming. And she’s probably right. Just sayin’.
SPcastles, no offense my friend, I mean no offense with the “naive” comment. It’s just that Emanuel and Blagobitch weren’t talking about seashells and balloons, they are down and dirty Chicago politicians. There is no way that Emanuel can come off in any acceptable manner if this becomes public and the tapes are played on air.
Pablo, we’re not saying she’s a whore, we’re saying she’s easy. Run along Pabs, your mama is calling.
gus, take a minute to suck my dick, won’t you? Better yet, take 10 or 15, so’s you can get the payoff.
So Pablo is gay! What a surprise a gay LIBTARD.
Naw, c’mon. First, Allahpundit likes Powers. Second, I don’t think this “whore” language has any place here, unless it’s part of a reasonably funny joke. Third, she might be right, but unless she has the goods she shouldn’t be making any blanket statements. I don’t really dig the ad hominem, unless it’s reasonably funny.
Jesus, gus, you’re coming across like some kinda Moby.
There is if he refuses to pay to play in the conversations. And there’s really not much upside in doing so, especially when you know the Feds are looking hard at Blago. It would be idiotic, which is certainly possible but not likely.
You’re not from around here, are you, gus?
What Dan said.
I’m sorry Pablo, but if he is ASKED to pay for play, he is responsible to report Blagobitch to the F.B.I.
He didn’t do that.
He has had numerous talks with Blagobitch, if anything untoward is on those tapes, and it is very likely there is, this taints Obama. The mere discussion is filthy and unlawful.
Yes Pablo, maybe Dan missed the part about you asking me to suck your dick. I believe you said…
Comment by Pablo on 12/16 @ 4:40 pm #
gus, take a minute to suck my dick, won’t you? Better yet, take 10 or 15, so’s you can get the payoff.
Btw, I will not suck your dick, but thanks for asking.
gus, go fuck yourself. There. Is that better? Bitch.
And you know that how, exactly?
And what interests and amuses me has only peripherally to do with the “scandal”. I don’t think Obama or any of his staffers, including Emanuel, were prepared to go along with Blago.
But that’s all he had to say in order to defuse this. Even those who didn’t believe it would have absolutely no way to establish that it wasn’t so.
But he didn’t do that. He denied it absolutely. “No contact.” Now, even if we didn’t have the tapes that would look bizarre — a sitting Senator having no contact with the Governor of the State he represents? On the subject of who to appoint to fill the seat he’s leaving? Ain’t gonna happen.
Now he’s walking back on it, the trolls are in full River of Egypt mode, and the Press is looking for anything — anything! — to substitute for the story, and it isn’t working. The more, and the more incrementally, Obama “walks back” the worse it looks, Fitzgerald is pissed at having his prosecution cut off in mid-stream and is leaking in dribs and damaging drabs, and the whole thing is blowing up in the Democrats’ faces.
And the best thing is, it’s being allowed to die down a bit sometimes, and people are still paying attention to appointing
Harriet MyersCaroline Kennedy as New York Senator, and to Charlie and Chris.More popcorn, please.
Regards,
Ric
BTW, Der Hahn at #30 offers very reasonable speculation.
Pablo, I don’t believe that is possible.
You have an anger management problem. What’s with all the potty mouth and such Pablo?? I take it you are a little short on brains but watch a lot of porn??
gus, I take it that you have no fucking clue as to what you’re talking about. F’rinstance, the notion that you might anger me is hilarious.
You guys have a difference of opinion. Does it mean that you’ve got to work it out in this thread? Pablo’s been around a long time, gus, and his bona fides are solid.
Au contraire Pablo, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how to push your buttons.
You are what we call a cyber warrior. Big on mouth short on brains.
Could post the word FUCK just a couple more times. It make you look big and tough. Then ask some guy to suck your dick. That usually impresses the boys down at the corner tavern.
You play the ball where it lays, Dan. But thanks for the props.
Dan, I’m not questioning his bona fides, I’m just not used to cyber tough guys asking me to suck their dick. Please read my posts on this thread and ask yourself if you want political postings or guys telling other guys to suck their dicks and fuck themselves.
If that’s the way you like it, I shall move on and never darken your door again. Let me know please. Pablo is way way way way out of line, and I’m not impressed.
Oh, gus, gus, gus. You’re cruising for a bruising, my friend. I tell you what. I’ll stop cussing you, you can pick a topic, and we’ll debate for money. You wanna?
Are you used to telling people to run to their momma, gus?
Let me see if I understand you Pablo.
Telling someone to run along to their mama is bad
Telling someone to suck your dick is good.
Telling someone to fuck themself is good.
I can see you guys got off on the wrong foot . . .
Don’t start shit, gus, and you won’t have these problems.
Can I review here before go?
Yes I shall.
I told Pablo to run along to his Mom. He found that unacceptable.
Naturally after saying something so heinous and evil, like run along to your mom, requires the following.
Suck my dick
Fuck yourself.
Dan, there could be money in this. Shhhh….
Ah, gus is a victim now. I get it.
BECAUSE OF TEH SWEAR WORDS! OHNOES!
Guys, guys. Can’t we all agree that:
1)KP is reasonably hot?
2)O is poor liar?
3)Blago sounds like a Bond villian?
4)Sucking dicks is thor’s field of expertise?
Thank you.
More bona fides from Pablo!!!
Don’t start shit!!
You see Pablo makes the rules and if you break Pablos rules you get to
Suck his dick and fuck yourself, because you started shit!
You see Pablo, you’re not real bright. You are living off of “Props”. You couldn’t debate yourself out of a wet paper bag. You use SUCK DICK FUCK and SHIT to prove you are right.
Wow.
Geez, guys – get a room!
1) I don’t “get” the KP obsession.
2) agreed.
3) Wasn’t there a Drago in a Rocky movie?
4) I hear thor can suck his own dick.
Pablo, I’m not victim but you’re clearly not very bright. You’re all mouth. It’s easy to whip you son. I just push a button and you start with the FUCK and SUCKS and such. It’s all you’ve got Pablo. I’m laughing at you. You’e “bona fides” are quite weak. And you are quite weak Pabs. Apparently there are low standards here. Not to worry Pablo, I understand weak guys like you. All mouth.
Comment by gus on 12/16 @ 5:22 pm #
gus, take a step back, take a deep breath, then come back, mkay?
Oh, sure, Gus. You talk big. But do YOU have a stalker?
Got money, gus?
BTW, you’re gonna have to bring better than this:
Your Momma must be proud.
Carin, I don’t get it either. She’s OK, but she’s no Megyn Kelly.
Must be a Beta male thing.
1) No obsession, just reasonably hot; big dif.
2) agree to the agreement.
3) Blago would be a good name for a dive gay club.
4) thor would be deleriously happy to discover item 3.
I notice that there’s no response to my #49. Duuuuuh.
Pablo, seriously are you retarded or something?
My comments are mild, very mild compared to yours. Dan apparently knows you, but this thread is showing that you are not very stable.
You seem to be getting angrier and angrier. You don’t have to like my comments Pablo, but, you are clearly unable to stop with your moronic attack. Telling people to such your dick is not the same as making fun or even rudely talking about Kirsten Powers. You need to get a grip. I’m laughing at you Pablo, because you are clearly out of control and in need of some sort of power (no pun intended). Pablo you aren’t impressing anyone.
I see Pablo is still flailing attempting to gain some sort of cyber power.
Run Pablo Run!!
I gotta shout out to Pablo’s bona fides here, too, gus. Been around these parts a long time, son. Trenchant commentary coupled with an fey insouciance and wry wit. Some, however, have speculated he and B Moe might be the same cat. Not me, some.
So anyway, here’s my take: I would wish that O and/or his servants dropped the dime on Blago. I do not think that happened. That bit a fail might be the extent of their “guilt” that caused the rush to deny by O.
But he lied not merely reflexively, but because he felt some fear.
Gus, knock it off.
gus, leave Pablo alone! We’re still finding pieces of the last guy that pissed him off.
possibly two…
Bye Pablo. Hope you find that man you’re looking for!
Btw. I won’t stoop to Pablo’s level. If he wants to debate using suck fuck dick and shit, I’ll leave him here in the gutter.
Bye Pablo, see you soon!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Yeah, he’s tough he uses foul language. Wow what an intellectual.
Somebody is sock spoofin’ Pabby. He’s never spewed sanity before.
Kirsten Powers is a million poppies sweet.
Bye, gus! Come back sometime when you won’t make an ass of yourself. Fucker.
Not so much that, cynn.
Is that you, Ron? I didn’t know you went by “Bones”.
Oh, and shut up, thor.
Yikes!!!
Never seen either. Consecutive comments.
Whyyyyyy-O? Lie-ie-ie-O?
Oh, gus was thor.
An insane jerkoff.
Oh, gus was thor.
I figured that out about three posts in.
If not, he’s close enough for rock and roll.
‘hammered.
I don’t know, NO/SBP.
Their patterns seem the same, but thor’s less eloquent.
Staggering monumental clusters of zoom.
Check your shadows.
Comment by thor on 12/16 @ 6:26 pm #
Check your meds.
but thor’s less eloquent.
Well, he doesn’t have much to say from my point of view, that’s for sure.
No matter how many r’s he appends to his name. He gets one post per.
You’re not worthy of licking Larry Craig’s cock ring.
I’m thor!
And you’re not worthy of your word.
Turrets is barkin’ out your tore hole, pigPen.
Whyyyyyyyyy-O?
Lie-ie-ie-O?
Whyyyyyy-O?
Squeal like a pig with a banj-O?
Drago vs Blago V: The Battle of The Slavs. Referee Barry Hussein Obamarat.
Daylight come an’ me wan’ Stay off the guy’s property. What’s so hard about that?
Comment by thor on 12/16 @ 6:30 pm #
Plagiarist.
Insane, stupid and stealing other peoples lines in no way to go through life, scumsucker.
You’re not worthy of licking Larry Craig’s cock ring.
You really got a thing for ole Larry, dontcha thor?
Maybe he blew their scene, so to speak.
And cock rings.
Just look at his neck.
Come mista’ tally-man, tally me Pick a name and stick with it.
Quins, you don’t really think crazy thor respects other peoples property, do you?
Plagiarism is theft, too, you know.
I usually like KP’s columns, this one-not so much…
She is hawt though; I think muuuuuuuch hawter than Megan Kelly…
On the issue? All I can do is quote O!…
Ethics!, Transparency!, Honesty!, Integrity!, New kind of Politics!
O!
Other’s property, not so much.
But I always thought he respected his own word.
…
[wipes tear]
I’d buy Pablo a beer any old day. Because he’s cranky. I’d buy thor one too; just tell me where to throw it. ‘Cause he’s cranky too; but also a boogerbutt.
I’d buy you something made of hemp, except a rope.
…
[sniffle]
Thank for the brew, cynn. But I prefer vituperative. Cranky and giggling don’t mix.
Old Vituperative, double hops! Mmmmmmm.
Hmmmm… I’m seeing a marketing opportunity.