Is the headline to Daniel Politi’s round-up of newspaper coverage of Blagogate. All I have to say is that Illini are pretty damn ‘incurious,’ considering “that Blagojevich is the fifth Illinois governor to be charged with criminal conduct over the last 50 years.”
Mind you, this is the site that gave ought-to-be disgraced Ex-Prosecutor-Turned-Governor Eliot Spitzer a column. It’s going to be interesting to see what Spitzer has to say on this subject, if anything.
From the end of this piece, we hear again from our old pal, licensed journalist Tim Egan:
In an op-ed piece, the NYT’s Timothy Egan says that the complaint against Blagojevich “showed a man trolling the depths of darkness,” where nothing was sacred and anything could be used for political and personal gain. “It would be somewhat comforting if there were a larger lesson here, or a map out of the banality of evil,” writes Egan. “But there is no trend or modern twist, no evidence of a greater criminal web, no overarching moral. Like a kid who beats up old ladies just because he knows no other way, the allegations against Blagojevich amount to what Fitzgerald called a crime spree, of the political variety.”
So squalid is this corruption, according to Egan, that it must be sui generis. No lessons here. No moral. No contamination. Move along.
In comments to a previous post, geoffb notes the Volokh post by Jim Lindgren in which the following appears:
On Tuesday, Dec. 8, Obama denies personal knowledge of the corrupt proposal.
“I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.”
As I’ve said before, as with Bill Clinton, Barack Obama’s words should be read carefully to see what he is saying and not saying. Apparently, Obama started to say that “we were not†“aware of what was happening,” but corrected himself by saying that “I was not aware of what was happening.”
That language leaves open the possibility that his staff was aware, but he personally was not. But why would Obama’s staff withhold information from him? I assume that Obama is telling the truth about not having spoken to the governor himself, since that might be easily refuted.
CONCLUSION:
From the evening of Nov. 10 until yesterday, Blagojevich, Obama, and his transition team acted in ways that are consistent with a knowledge of Blagojevich’s bribery attempt and a rejection of that attempt. What doesn’t fit easily with the timeline is Obama’s statement yesterday.
It should be noted that it is not a crime to fail to report a bribery attempt. The federal misprision of felony statute would seem to make it a federal crime to fail to report a federal felony:
Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. 18 USC s.4.
But case law has conclusively determined that mere non-reporting is not enough. Active concealment or the acceptance of a benefit for concealing is required.
Yet, looking at this timeline of Blagogate, it seems quite possible that someone in the Obama Camp is either lying or at least not revealing what they know. I also find it hard to believe that Obama’s closest advisors were hiding major corruption from him, especially as he was making decisions about where to place Senate candidates such as Jarrett.
Something important is missing from this story. Let’s hope that, whatever it is, the absent fact or explanation will allow the narrative to fit Obama’s denial more naturally.
Since by all accounts, the Obama camp refused Blagojevich’s bribery attempt, it would be extremely unwise to lie about it. Remember, it’s not the crime that trips you up; it’s the cover-up.
In related news:
Comment by Warren Bonesteel on 12/10 @ 10:02 am #
Incurious? Naw. As a former resident of that state, I can tell you that it’s just business as usual. In fact, compared to thirty or forty years ago, this sort of thing is nuthin’. There was a time when you couldn’t buy a roll of toilet paper without the mob gettin’ it’s cut. In recent decades, the government took over from the mob, and as with all things which are organized and operated by the government…
Comment by Percy Dovetonsils on 12/10 @ 10:08 am #
The amazing thing is that Blago keep flapping his lips, even when he knew the Feds were circling. Normally the local crooked politcos (yes, I know, that’s redundant) are far more cautious than that.
In terms of the blatant shakedowns, etc.? Hell, that’s standard operating procedure in this state. Frankly, if they want to withdraw the troops from Iraq and use them to bring regime change to Illinois, I am totally cool with that.
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 10:10 am #
No evidence of a greater criminal web? For real?
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 10:11 am #
Republicans have a special love for corrupt politicians. They elect so many, you know, from states like Alaska.
I wonder how Sarah Palin had a house built for free?
Friends! Haha, winky-winky!
Comment by BJTexs on 12/10 @ 10:12 am #
Methinks Mr. Egan needs to step down from Funk and Wagnall’s porch and twist the empty mayonnaise jar off of his head. (tool)
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 10:16 am #
I wonder how Sarah Palin had a house built for free?
You can do anything on the internets, haven’t you heard?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 10:22 am #
“You can do anything on the internets, haven’t you heard?”
Including spreading lies? Whoda thunk it!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 10:23 am #
What did Obama know and when did he know it?
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 10:24 am #
At least we know from which stores she stole her clothes. Haha! Winky-winky!
Comment by mojo on 12/10 @ 10:26 am #
Chicago, Chicago, that toddlin’ town
Chicago, Chicago, I’ll show you around
Bet your bottom dollar you’ll lose the blues in Chicago
Chicago, the town that ** could not shut down
On State Street, that great street
I just want to say
They do things that they don’t do on Broadway, say
They have the time, the time of their life
I saw a man, he danced with his wife
In Chicago, my home town
– Tony Bennett, before he lost his heart somewhere else
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 10:30 am #
Who will fill Obama’s senate seat? Tee-Hee. Carol Sowers will be explaining why she is a lying liar who pre-emptively makes up stories to purposely embarrass The PeBHO.
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 10:36 am #
Better grab a screenshot of that story before it disappears down the memory hole, sd.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 10:38 am #
Shorter inane trollspew:
REPUBLICANS DO IT TOO!
Can we just replace their blathering with that? Their inability to focus is irritating.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 10:39 am #
meh, what does anyone in Connecticut know about Illinois? I’ll just note it says he was going to meet Blago…
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 10:40 am #
Precisely maggie, which is why she will be explaining her lie, etc.
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 10:43 am #
I think we have seen this movie before.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 10:46 am #
From the evening of Nov. 10 until yesterday, Blagojevich, Obama, and his transition team acted in ways that are consistent with a knowledge of Blagojevich’s bribery attempt and a rejection of that attempt. What doesn’t fit easily with the timeline is Obama’s statement yesterday.
Sure, Obama didn’t want to play with Blago’s schemes. But, was he willing to do anything about it? Obama didn’t/doesn’t care about corruption in his own party. Duh. All that hope and change was only so much bullshit.
That Obama shunned Blago’s overtures, so what. What’s the quid pro quo for Obama giving Blago anything??
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 10:48 am #
“Black hole found at center of galaxy”
“alfie seen entering our universe at near lightspeed”
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 10:49 am #
Like that movie that opened around mid-1945, “Widespread Mass Murder Charges Shock Germany”, geoffb? “Hokey-smoke, Bullwinkle, we had no idea anything like that was going on!”
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 10:52 am #
Click your heels, Carin, and activate your Republican flag pin corruption shield.
You’re making my eyes roll more than usual today, congrats.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 10:52 am #
Anyone heard from Jack Brennan lately?
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 10:54 am #
Or Jack Abramoff lately?
Comment by Squid on 12/10 @ 10:55 am #
One might think that nobody at this site had ever criticized a Republican for his bad actions, nor criticized the Republican Party for bad policy decisions. At least, one might think that if one believed the incessant bleatings of this site’s resident “political independent.”
In Egan’s defense, I shared a similar reaction when digesting yesterday’s events. Blago’s actions were stunning not only for their stupidity, blatancy, and criminality, but also for their banality. There was no evil mastermind hatching some nefarious plot; there was just a political boss engaging in bribery and extortion.
To be sure, the accusations are huge. But they’re not complicated. It’s just pay-to-play blown up to a really big size.
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 10:56 am #
ABC News is stating that Senate Candidate #5 is indeed Jesse Jackson Jr.
Comment by Dan Collins on 12/10 @ 10:59 am #
Don’t be hatin’ on da playah, DarthRove.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:01 am #
Ain’t easy JJJr’n.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 11:02 am #
Guilty as hell.
Comment by Dan Collins on 12/10 @ 11:04 am #
I’d like to rip his nuts off.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:04 am #
Once again, thorazine brings nothing to the conversation.
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 11:04 am #
Hey, DeeCee, who be hatin’ now, dawg?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 11:05 am #
Rob you forgot the next line, “Free as a bird”, because that is what they will all be after this. Remember the 90’s? Remember Sandy Berger? All still walking free. My guess is they will be f@cking promoted after this.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 11:05 am #
FTFY.
Comment by Daniel Dare on 12/10 @ 11:07 am #
This is a nice animation of the
stars orbiting the central parsec around Saggitarius A*
Comment by Daniel Dare on 12/10 @ 11:10 am #
Sheesh…..Sagittarius, one g, two t’s.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:10 am #
Honestly, the trolls are so disappointing. I wanna hear:
1) Gratitude that one of their bad guys is going away.
2) Arguments that Blago isn’t guilty.
Barring that, the OH YEA, WELL YOU GUYS DID IT TOO are simply tiresome.
‘Cause, truth be told, it doesn’t much affect me if a Democrat is dirty in the manner Blago was. As long as he’s shaken down his own party …
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 11:12 am #
I am predicting that the word “misspoke” will be overused in the next couple years as much as change was the last 2.
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 11:14 am #
Sdferr, that’s good.
The lines I had seemed to be the like the Blago tapes.
The ones just before,
,
sound more like the Obama war-room after the news hit.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 11:14 am #
Never happen. While the morons at Ace of Spades were dancing around singing “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead” when Stevens went, lefties are all about Power. Hell, they want more government interference in our lives, which is what makes crooks like Blago possible.
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/10 @ 11:16 am #
Channel 7 in the quad cities had a story about how OBAMA MET WITH BLAGO the day after the election in order to “discuss” his replacement in the senate. I am looking for the link.
“Misspoke”, indeed!
Comment by McGehee on 12/10 @ 11:16 am #
Thor’s latest incarnation is so pitiful I can’t even be bothered to ‘Hammer him.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:18 am #
I don’t want the Larry Craig sing anything when his mouth is full.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:19 am #
I don’t want to hear Larry Craig sing anything when his mouth is full.
FTFY.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:20 am #
Not to mention, that by massaging the news into portraying Blago not as a politically corrupt Democrat, but rather an evil, malevolent force seems to be the tact they will take to attempt to distance themselves from the stench of his crimes.
Never mind that for him to be corrupt entails other people knowing about and going ALONG with that corruption. But watch. It will appear he was evil in a vacuum.
Let me say it here. Get your bookmark ready, Thorazine. EVERY democrat in Illinios was aware of Blago’s predilections. Either that or they are stupid.
Either/or.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 12/10 @ 11:20 am #
Ooooohh, I want to play troll for a bit. So like, see here, Obama may have talked to Blagogevich about the replacement for his seat, but you see, like, because O! did that, it like exposed the corruption of the evil white capitalist politician whose party shall not be named, and like now we’re all good. See, like O! had to get down and dirty, so like that Fitz guy could get the dirt. O man, O!’s essentially like a secret agent, heh, a secret agent of change and like, we’re all cool now, right?
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 11:22 am #
A secret agent of change and HOPE, Dash. Get it right. Change and Hope. Or just “CHope” for short.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 11:22 am #
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:19 am #
How do you type with your mouth full?
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 11:23 am #
There’s not a lot of difference between what this Blago person wanted to do and Baracky leveraging his own senate seat into a ginormous pay raise for his woman. These Chicago street trash peoples is all the same.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:25 am #
Every Republican knew Tom DeLay and Ted Stephens were crooked, and so.
Carin, being a slithering Repub makes you no better than any Democrat, no matter what your mommy told ya. Well, I take that back, anyone who’d gleefully vote Repub after George Bush is a lessor, in my book.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 11:25 am #
This could even be bigger than Troopergate I think.
Comment by mojo on 12/10 @ 11:26 am #
Volokh:
The federal misprision of felony statute would seem to make it a federal crime to fail to report a federal felony:
But case law has conclusively determined that mere non-reporting is not enough. Active concealment or the acceptance of a benefit for concealing is required.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:26 am #
I agree Happy. Business as usual in Chicago isn’t something I wanted to see in the White House.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 12/10 @ 11:26 am #
Still not as big as Triggate. Yet.
Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/10 @ 11:26 am #
thorhoid, I think there’s medication for your affliction!
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 11:26 am #
How many times in my life will I google misprision you think?
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 11:27 am #
How is that DeLay prosecution going thor? Haven’t heard much from Ronnie Earl lately.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:27 am #
Shorter Thor:
Bla bla bla bla …
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:28 am #
I think you’re missing a hiccup or two in there, Carin.
Comment by Thor's panties on 12/10 @ 11:28 am #
Does this shit stain make my ass look big?
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:29 am #
If only Trig could wink he’d have such a bright future in Alaska’s Republican corruption machine.
Didn’t start it! Hehehe.
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:32 am #
Longer thor:
Bla bla [gay smear] bla bla [attack on disabled babies] bla bla.
hic!
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 11:32 am #
If only Trig could type, thor could get his intellectual ass handed to him by yet another of his superiors.
Comment by Larry Craig's finger on 12/10 @ 11:34 am #
P’Brain’s prostate is in here somewhere.
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 11:38 am #
Democrats always use the “Stupid” defense, usually it’s the aides that are claimed to be so. The big guys are merely ignorant of all things around them, like the Emperor’s wife, virgin purity floating on a vast sea of sewage.
Comment by BJTexs on 12/10 @ 11:40 am #
Somebody needs to say it: Iowahawk is a friggin’ evil genius. Don;t forget to click on the “ebay account” link above.
Comment by Roland THTG on 12/10 @ 11:40 am #
Figured tHOR was more of a thong type.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 11:41 am #
Obama calls for Blago to resign. Story.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 11:43 am #
Hi Carin. Need more bubblegum?
AIG employees are non-union employees. They not evil like GM’s factory workers.
Comment by Bod on 12/10 @ 11:43 am #
Man, that’s one huge fargin’ bus Obama leased.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 11:46 am #
In the 8 years of Bush being in office I do not remember a time when Karl Rove he had to say he “misspoke” in order for it not to look like Bush lied.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 11:47 am #
“Comment by Bod on 12/10 @ 11:43 am #
Man, that’s one huge fargin’ bus Obama leased.”
Could someone toss thoroid under there?
Comment by Carin on 12/10 @ 11:53 am #
Focus, thorazine, focus. Obviously your contributions will be negligible, but at least try to keep within some sphere of the topic.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 11:53 am #
The President Elect must avoid the appearance of impropriety.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:55 am #
RACIST!
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 12:02 pm #
Yeap, “virgin purity floating on a vast sea of sewage.” as always.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 12:02 pm #
Everyone that comes from Chicago is a “good” man, well except for this Blago guy. He is teh evil but everyone else is A-ok!!!!!!
Comment by Slartibartfast on 12/10 @ 12:03 pm #
Someone who leases?
What is it with leases in this thread, anyway?
Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 12/10 @ 12:05 pm #
Does this rise to the level of “shock and awe” corruption?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 12:07 pm #
oh, you know… the economy is in bad shape and it’s harder to get a mortgage.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 12:07 pm #
Not for what we call “journalist” these days John, to them this is a “distraction”.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 12:07 pm #
“Misspoke” must pretty much mean “I wish he hadn’t said that in public. Because it’s an uncomfortable fact.
Link goes to article talking about O meeting Blogobangocut on Nov. 5. to discuss filling of O’s senate seat.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 12:11 pm #
That never happened Sarah because good luck seeing that “reported” outside the internet. CNN probably has “journalists” out right now cleaning O!’s cars for him, they are much too busy to do a simple google search.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 12:12 pm #
How far are the denizens of Chicago and environs proud of their reputation for the “Chicago Way”, in the simple sense that peoples anywhere will put on the stereotypes of their homelands as they would a garment of choice?
For instance Texans used to be renowned for their braggadocio for all things “Bigger” (Texas sized), California for their “laid back” attitudes to life’s doings, New York for its “Empire State” presumptions, etc etc.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 12/10 @ 12:20 pm #
Anyone who voted Jimmah Carter also considered a lessor, Gollum (I Backdoor to Modor)?
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 12/10 @ 12:23 pm #
Gollum (I – Backdoor District, Modor)
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 12:26 pm #
Someone needs to do a photoshop of O! floating down a river in a manger, ala Moses, but on a river of feces.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 12:33 pm #
Anyone notice PeBHO’s predilection for the phrase “Let me stop you there…” when he has been asked a question he does not wish to answer or which he strongly wants to “re-frame” in a shape more to his liking? I feel like I’ve seen him use it twenty times or more in the run of his time on the national political stage.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 12:42 pm #
Drudge is reporting that Bush has issued a pardon to Blagojevich.
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[...] Protein Wisdom makes fun of this Slate headline and rightly so. All I have to say is that Illini are pretty damn ‘incurious,’ considering “that Blagojevich is the fifth Illinois governor to be charged with criminal conduct over the last 50 years.†[...]
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 12:57 pm #
“Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 12:42 pm #
Drudge is reporting that Bush has issued a pardon to Blagojevich.”
Was that supposed to be funny?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 12:57 pm #
probably depends on how many, um, deceased constituents you ask.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 12:59 pm #
Thor would vote for this guy as long as he had a D in front of his name and he was running against a guy with an R in front of his.
Comment by thorichka on 12/10 @ 1:03 pm #
You looked, of that I’m sure.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 1:06 pm #
Ya know, that would actually be roll-on-the-floor funny. Almost as funny as Bush issuing a pardon to Obama.
Comment by Bob Reed on 12/10 @ 1:07 pm #
I simply can’t wait for the lightworker to begin shedding some light on his role in all of this…
On an unrelated note, it seems that the AP is shocked, Shocked! that O! associated with scumbags, scalawags, crooks, and haters during his 20 odd years in Chicago…
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6156757.html
Wha-Wha-What..? Why didn’t they wonder about all this before, you know, the election..?
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/10 @ 1:10 pm #
What a huge stinky pile of corruption is already splashing the Messiah. He hasn’t even taken the oath yet and his credibility is crumbling. These years may actually be quite entertaining.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 12/10 @ 1:11 pm #
Shocked! that O! associated with scumbags, scalawags, crooks, and haters
Yup – this crew makes OJ’s hanger ons look like class acts.
Comment by Bob Reed on 12/10 @ 1:12 pm #
“Black hole found at center of galaxy…
“Oprah reveals she weighs 200 pounds…
Well, now we know where she’s been spending her weekends…
Maybe Jack Brennan is her chauffer…
I know…I know…I denounce myself…
Comment by Squid on 12/10 @ 1:23 pm #
Thor would vote for this guy as long as he had a D in front of his name and he was running against a guy with an R in front of his.
BECAUSE OF THE INDEPENDENCE!
Comment by Salt Lick on 12/10 @ 1:24 pm #
So, exactly what are the odds of pulling a clean Godiva chocolate from a cesspool?
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 1:25 pm #
You know, I am starting to feel kind of sorry for Blago, I mean, he must have been the loneliest guy in the world these past couple months, because apparently nobody has been talking to him, you know?
Comment by ThomasD on 12/10 @ 1:34 pm #
misprision
There’s a talking point for ya.
Interesting how the likelihood of some totally unethical behavior by the Obamessiah gets spun down to ‘not a bona fide crime.
Shades of ‘no controlling legal authority.’ I’m thinking that time spent next to the Goracle yesterday is paying dividends.
Fuck, what happened to Hope and Change, and Transparency, and Ethics? Now people are seriously arguing that even if he did know about the pay to play shakedowns that somehow he wasn’t wrong for not reporting them.
That expectations bar falls any faster and it’s going to leave a crater.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 1:37 pm #
Since lying is a resume enhancer for these guys I predict O!’s poll numbers will get a slight bump going into the weekend.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 1:38 pm #
What a huge stinky pile of corruption is already splashing the Messiah. He hasn’t even taken the oath yet and his credibility is crumbling.
I’m ready to write him off I think. He was never vetted and now it’s all of us what will pay for this trashy criminal marketing gimmick the media has foisted on us.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 1:44 pm #
“He hasn’t even taken the oath yet and his credibility is crumbling.”
If the guy can get caught going to a racist church for 20 years, say I can no more disown Rev. Wright than I can my own grandmother, then less than 2 weeks later disown him because his poll numbers drop 15 points, and survive politically and with full throated support, I seriously doubt that this will harm him. He could probably come on TV, say “Please forget everything you have seen me say for the last 24 hours, I misspoke” and his supporters would swallow it like a tic tac.
PS how many commas are allowed in one sentence? I think I hit the legal amount there.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 1:45 pm #
Sounds like Al Capone was minor league.
Comment by ThomasD on 12/10 @ 1:48 pm #
Well Capone was so smalltime he had to pay his goons out of his own pocket. Blago gets the State of Illinois to do that.
Comment by alppuccino on 12/10 @ 1:50 pm #
Now no one said “The First Black President!!!!” was going to be easy. Remember when Pong came out? It was a very complex machine and it took some getting used to. But then when you figured out that you move the little bumper up and down and time it up with the little pong thing, it became hours of mind-challenging, reflex-enhancing, good wholesome fun.
Just gotta work the kinks out. That’s all. Like Pong.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 1:56 pm #
I think you could compare this to pong in that all the guy has to say is “I misspoke” or “That is not the Rev. Wright I knew” and whatever he said or did in the past just bounces off him and is forgotten.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 1:58 pm #
Pong never tried to steal my shit for its ACORN pals and empower tyrannies and generally sleaze things up with some half-baked dirty socialist class warfare gaiety while the media sat with it’s thumb up its ass and NPR warbled about rainbows and bluebirds and gay marriage and climate change.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 1:59 pm #
sorry – it’s its whatever – I’m very upset by all this so bear with me
Comment by Silver Whistle on 12/10 @ 2:02 pm #
…some half-baked dirty socialist class warfare gaiety…
If I remember my class warfare correctly, ‘feets, there isn’t much gaiety. Unless you mean the pale blue Croc variety.
Comment by Salt Lick on 12/10 @ 2:02 pm #
That’s all. Like Pong.
See, problem is the first time me and a buddy saw one of those in the airport, we played it a half-hour before we realized the machine was broken. So you lose money in the process. And you can’t get it back.
Comment by MarkD on 12/10 @ 2:05 pm #
How did Spitzer get a job? That “D” is better than kevlar. I bet it works for the Occupant of the Office of the President Elect as well. We’ll abbreviate that as OOPSIE.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 2:07 pm #
Transparency died when they set up their web site.
Ethics likely never showed up.
You can still Hope for Change, though.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 2:14 pm #
Timothy Egan, has the gay face. Is he gay? That would explain a lot.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 2:15 pm #
mercy. That’s love.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 2:18 pm #
Joni is a guy. Who knew?
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 2:21 pm #
Odder still is the google ad what stands beside the picture and to the right. It reads “How gay is your husband? Take the quiz and find out how gay your husband is.”
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 2:24 pm #
Maybe its just more of a sympathy he has. His eyebrows aren’t really slanty enough. I haz a fail.
Comment by Techie on 12/10 @ 2:32 pm #
Ahh, THIS is the change we’ve been waiting for.
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 2:34 pm #
116. happyfeet.
You owe me a new monitor and a tube of Bactine for the scratches I have around my eyes now.
Comment by J."Trashman" Peden on 12/10 @ 2:38 pm #
He hasn’t even taken the oath yet and his credibility is crumbling.
Cred gone to crud? I’d say Obama’s expiration date was somewhere back in 2004. Unfortuneatly.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 12/10 @ 2:39 pm #
Right around this time, last year, is when Chuck Adkins was the object of blog attention for what he had to say about the death of Christiana Hendrix. I think thor’s caught a little of what had Chuckles going off the deep end.
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 2:58 pm #
Hey, sdferr, the linky in your #11 post to the KHQA story stating that The One met with Blago is down the memory hole. All you get now is “Content for Src=”217582″ of Type=”application/html; src=cms-id” is unavailable.”
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 3:05 pm #
Good thing I got a screenshot.
If the story was wrong, they could have made a correction. They could have just linked to a correction. Deleting the whole damned thing makes them look like they’re covering up an inconvenient fact.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 3:08 pm #
Interesting Darth, you called it I guess. That thing has been linked to a fair-thee-well across the tubes today and I’d guess KHQA is tired of having to give out their non-answer or in the alternative have “decided” the story wasn’t true after all, wot?
Comment by Dan Collins on 12/10 @ 3:10 pm #
Rob, are you going to post it?
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:12 pm #
here is the google cache what google cached so these journalists what accidentally made the wrong propaganda can learn from their mistakes more better
Comment by kelly on 12/10 @ 3:17 pm #
116. happyfeet.
Which one’s which?
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:19 pm #
They for real disappeared that story on purpose without a retraction. KHQA must be mostly Illinois people cause that’s a very Chicago street trash way of operating.
Comment by DarthRove on 12/10 @ 3:20 pm #
Guess what: the Google cache says the same thing as the KHQA linky, “Content for Src=”217582″ … unavailable”. Propagandist lefties of a feather and all that.
I sense a bus warming up in the Tri-State area with “Carol Sowers” emblazoned on it.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 3:21 pm #
Maybe they should just stop printing news altogether and just quote the ONE when HE speaks? Seems to be they willingly throw themselves under the bus when HE tells them to so why don’t we just skip all the bullsh@t about news articles, stories, and journalism. They could just print us all little red books to carry around in our pockets filled with HIS words instead.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:23 pm #
I just put #116 up cause I was investigating his gayfacedness and then I was startled is all. I think Mr. Egan is just in over his head trying to swim in the deep end of the dirty socialist propaganda pool more than anything else. His stuff reads like things he thinks he’s supposed to say more than things he’s thought about for real.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/10 @ 3:23 pm #
“Cred gone to crud? I’d say Obama’s expiration date was somewhere back in 2004. Unfortuneatly.”
Along these lines, but how does O!have a favorability rating already? One of the idiots mentioned it’s at 79%. There is polling on the president elect? And people wonder why polls (other than the ones at the election) are a joke. He hasn’t done anything yet to be favorable or unfavorable. His cabinet? They haven’t done anything yet, either. Validate me! Please. Rubes. The whole lot.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:25 pm #
whoa. That google cache link just worked a few minutes ago and now I get same as Darth. That’s scary shit.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/10 @ 3:25 pm #
Is Carol Sowers under police protection?
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/10 @ 3:26 pm #
Yep, google blasted it into the nether world, happy.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:26 pm #
Google is dirty socialists cunts. Who knew?
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 3:27 pm #
After I get home. I was playing with my home machine’s configuration over lunch and have left it in a half-hosed state.
Comment by kelly on 12/10 @ 3:27 pm #
Au Contraire. He Was Born. Doesn’t get any more favorable than that.
/thor
(ick!)
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 3:29 pm #
The story, as maggie correctly pointed out, was way project-y (which we should have seen by now — projecting the not yet as if they know what will come — is what “journalism” has reduced itself to these days, like they are shaman-magicians foretelling the future) and could easily have been based on unsubstantiated rumor or leak, so, easily given up without a fight. Is there to be shame in shamanism and hence apologies forthrightly offered to offense to good judgment? Pah!
Comment by Dan Collins on 12/10 @ 3:29 pm #
Let me know when it’s up, Rob, so that I can link.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 3:30 pm #
I hope you guys aren’t surprised by what Google did. They already censor stuff in China they probably have been censoring stuff harmful to the ONE for quite some time now. You know if there were any “journalist” left in this country that might be a story but sad to say there are none.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:33 pm #
That’s not journalism that’s just being Chicago street trash dirty socialist information thugs is all that is. KHQA is shit and Carol Sowers is a pussy cow I think and a disgrace to her profession.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 3:34 pm #
It might be dirty but it’s too late, cat’s out of the bag. KhQA is just making things worse now.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 3:42 pm #
Gateway Pundit has a screenshot.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 3:42 pm #
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/12/obama-met-with-blagojevich-in-chicago.html
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 3:45 pm #
Hmmm. It appears the left is corrupt. This perplexes me.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 3:45 pm #
That’s not fair. KHQA is (officially) based in Hannibal, MO and has studios in Quincy, IL. Only Chicago in the sense that all of Illinois is just the life support system for Chicago.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 3:46 pm #
Rob it is on Gateway Pundit and not CNN or NBC for a reason. It directly contradicts statements made by a Democrat.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:47 pm #
If they don’t want people thinking they’re dirty socialist Chicago street trash then they shouldn’t act like dirty socialist Chicago street trash I don’t think.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:51 pm #
Baracky lies so readily. He might could be a sociopath I think on top of being Chicago street trash. Those kind are very dangerous.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 3:53 pm #
Happy can you imagine a news organization deleting their own stories from the internet with Googles help in order to make President Bush look better? You are right we are in for 4 years of dirty socialism complete with daily propaganda.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 3:53 pm #
no, no… people just misunderstand what he says all the time.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 3:53 pm #
We will be different, after.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 3:54 pm #
Ha. I didn’t know that the meeting was mentioned on the Governor’s website on Nov. 5, and in a press release from the Governor’s office.
Gateway thoughfully provides screenshots of all. Why is the innocent one running from something so easily proven?
Comment by cranky-d on 12/10 @ 3:56 pm #
I’ve known about google’s dirty socialist propensities for a long time. They are already well-known for biases in their linkage when it comes to political stuff, and of course there’s the famous deal they made with China to censor content so the Chinese can’t get information that their government doesn’t want them to have.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 3:57 pm #
More like a shill in a three-card monte being dealt by D. Axelrod than an outright easy liar, it you ask me, hf. Whenever he has to go off script his ease falls all apart into stuttering boobery.
Comment by cranky-d on 12/10 @ 3:59 pm #
With google on your side, your level of plausible deniability increases significantly.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 4:07 pm #
The wheels on the bus go round and round….
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:08 pm #
Gateway pundit updated with a link to STACLU, which links another Nov 8 article referring to that meeting between Blago an O! on the 5th to discuss O’s senate replacement.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 4:10 pm #
The mayfly seems to be desperate for human contact and attention, and seems to be at the stage when any contact will do.
So why does anyone here indulge him?
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:10 pm #
Oh, that link is to the same vanished article we’ve been talking about.
Perhaps O can whip out his day planner and settle the matter.
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/10 @ 4:11 pm #
So what do you guys think this will be called? Blago-gate? Misspoke-gate? Meeting-gate?
I wouldn’t want to name it Obama-anything because I am sure there will be many, many more coming and we don’t want to get confused.
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 4:13 pm #
The increase is inversely proportional to the decrease in google’s believability. Like the NYT they can only do trade offs so long before they are rated below those they prop up.
4 years of screenshots to save. I’d better get at least a 1000 gig HD.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 4:16 pm #
#92 seems to support the ‘Look at me! Look at me!’ theory. A finer specimen one could not hope to find.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:17 pm #
How about Losergate, Log?
Nothing is so pleasant than seeing the right cling to false hope.
Reminds me of all the “political expert” right wing bloggers who were predicting a McCain win.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:18 pm #
Mr. O is used to having some arm-twisting power at big media organizations. Or, his friends exerting their powers of arm-twisting on his behalf, anyway.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:19 pm #
False hope? Hope of what? I have no hope of O getting booted. Just exposed.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 4:20 pm #
This is one of the things that’s really pushing my buttons. The left has abandoned even the figleaf of intellectual integrity. Sometime in the last eight years, they realized they could just out-and-out lie and get it accepted as the truth by enough people for the lie to be useful. So you get the “Bush said Iraq was an imminent thread” lie, the “Bush said Saddam bought uranium from Niger” lie, the whole host of lies covering up the statements — often more hawkish — from Democrats. They definitely realized what they could get away with before September of this year — they mobilized their army of liars against Palin as soon as her name came out, and worked so hard at it that people think she really said lines from a fucking comedy sketch.
Now they’re fucking airbrushing history to cover for the One.
The totalitarian impulse is strong in the country. And that both infuriates and scares me.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:23 pm #
Exposed as what, Sarah?
A decent guy?
How would you people cope?
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/10 @ 4:26 pm #
I have no hope of O getting booted. Just exposed.
I hear that! It is actually far more advantageous for the midterms to have him in the White House with his credibility completely destroyed. Someone to kick around and be the pathetic face of the democrat party.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:29 pm #
Exposed as someone who gained from quid proquos and dirty Chicago political dealing. If he blew Blago off, great. But why is he dissembling about talking to Blago?
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 4:29 pm #
Ah, alphie the lifelong conservative just knows that the Chicago machine pol is squeaky clean.
Shut up, snippy.
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/10 @ 4:31 pm #
In related news: No Quarter blog is claiming that Michlle Obama is the “Specifically Named Individual” on Page 64 of Blago’s Indictment.
death by a thousand little cuts…
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 4:33 pm #
Heh.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:41 pm #
Ah, you’ve got the first symptoms of Obama Derangement Syndrome, SarahW.
Take two aspirin and call me in 8 years.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:45 pm #
O is what he is. I didn’t make him that way.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:46 pm #
And denying it won’t make him be what you want him to be, either, Parsnip.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 4:48 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:17 pm #
How about Losergate, Log?”
Yeah, your posts are a scandel, alpo.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:48 pm #
I just wanted him to be a winner, SarahW.
So you are deluding yourself.
Poor girl.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 12/10 @ 4:49 pm #
Which, as far as I’m concerned, is almost a good reason to think that it’s NOT Michelle Obama. You do know that Larry Johnson is nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake, yes?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 4:49 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:23 pm #
Exposed as what, Sarah?
A decent guy?
How would you people cope?”
Like Jimmah Carter?
Or Bill Clinton?
Mhehe.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 4:50 pm #
Blagojevich, maybe?
Mehehe.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:51 pm #
I’m “hoping” O is squeaky0-clean, reg. Blago, maybe even turned him in.
But I suspect that this would be in the way of crooked-but-wise pawnbrokers who knows when a fence it too hot to deal with.
Comment by cranky-d on 12/10 @ 4:52 pm #
Even the irony of it mostly coming from the left, who scream the loudest about the shredded Constitution, isn’t enough to make me feel better.
I have been idly thinking about how the Constitution has been chipped at and chipped at over the years. I’m starting to think that the only way to reverse the unconstitutional things that have been done will be to do something unconstitutional to correct them. Still pondering this.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 4:52 pm #
Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy, maybe?
Barny “Prostitution Ring In My Apartment” Fwank?
Mehehe…..
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:52 pm #
“When a fence is”
You just wanted O to be a winner? That doesn’t say much for you.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 4:53 pm #
The odds of O! being a “decent guy” untouched by corruption are the same as the odds of Milla Jovovich calling me for a weekend of meaningless sex.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 4:55 pm #
My feeling is that Baracky’s ill-considered vaulting into the presidency on the backs of a compliant media thing is all kinds of brittle. His media won’t all be as loyal as KHQA and Google and NPR. And his media is like 99% responsible for the illusion of accomplishment he’s coasting on. What a freaking dirty socialist amateur. We can be thankful of that really.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 4:56 pm #
My blood sugar has tanked. Pardon the typos.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:57 pm #
Don’t be bitter, SarahW.
Don’t be a hater.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 5:01 pm #
Hater of lies?
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 5:03 pm #
I bitterly cling to illusory fixed points that seem not much to matter to you Parsnip. Why did you want O to win?
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 5:03 pm #
Why don’t you care if he’s crooked or has a socialist agenda?
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 5:09 pm #
I just consumed an emergency pumpkin waffle straight from the freezer. I could’ve had a cupcake was all I could think while I was eating it. Calvin knows I dangle over the cupcake pit this time of year.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 5:10 pm #
A sinner in the hands of an angry cashmere sweater-dress.
Comment by thor on 12/10 @ 5:21 pm #
Has the black chopter Kool Aide already worn off?
Anyone up for some bat wing wodka and pony tinkle chasers?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 5:22 pm #
“#
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:57 pm #
Don’t be bitter, SarahW.
Don’t be a hater.”
Reactionary leftists are haters.
8 years of frothing BDS are proof of that.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 5:31 pm #
So, how long before Defendant-Elect Barack Hussein Obama throws Emanuel under the bus, do you suppose?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 5:33 pm #
What did O! know, and when did he know it?
Comment by Rusty on 12/10 @ 5:34 pm #
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 4:41 pm #
Ah, you’ve got the first symptoms of Obama Derangement Syndrome, SarahW.
Take two aspirin and call me in 8 years.
Tony Rezko was a fundraiser for both Blago and the ‘O’. Facts is tenatious things root vegetable.
What’s suprising to everybody hanging out around Rockwell and Lawrence is that anybody is surprised.
Did you know that the South half of the Wells Street bridge is for sale? Really!
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 5:34 pm #
“I’m starting to think that the only way to reverse the unconstitutional things that have been done will be to do something unconstitutional to correct them.”
Maybe you could expand Executive Power or suspend habeus corpus.
Naw, classic liberals would never stand for that.
Comment by thor on 12/10 @ 5:35 pm #
Barack is guilty of punk whuppin’.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 5:37 pm #
I remember back when Baracky was first elected he seemed different, like he could be a genuine catalyst for change.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 5:49 pm #
Poor thorazine. Blowbama promised him that he wasn’t like all the other boys — he really loved him.
Now thorazine sits by the phone a sore ass, waiting, in vain, for Barry to call.
Gullible little prick, isn’t he? If he were female he’d have been knocked up five times before his eighteenth birthday.
Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/10 @ 5:50 pm #
thorhoid, obumper is just as much a salad tosser as yourself.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:00 pm #
I see the delusion machine is running at full tilt over here. Good luck with the Obama smears. Who cares if there is zero evidence he was involved? If knowledge of a felony is all you have, then we’ll need to lock up most of congress and all of the Bush administration.
You know why you have such a problem with trolls? Because you guys are so thoughtlessly reactionary and disagreeable that fucking with you is fun.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:01 pm #
thor;
Doesn’t it seem WingNut nation is descending into the Maelstrom of their discontent? Visit the lawyers at JustOneMinute and compare PW lunar nodes. Nostradamus deserves another look.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/10 @ 6:02 pm #
For the record y’all, KHQA:
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 6:04 pm #
Cheer up happy,
Obama will brush aside this latest lame attempt to smear him like it was Sarah Palin in a $10,000 dress.
It’s just another Republican pig in lipstick.
BTW, when are Bristol and Levi getting married like Srarh Pea promised they would?
By my count she’s down to a couple weeks.
Will Levi make an honest teen out of her?
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 6:06 pm #
There is going to be a cornucopia of new euphemisms come out of this story.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:07 pm #
I almost forgot the biggest reason trolls flock here – you have been consistently wrong about most everything yet still have some strange smug satisfaction in your infallibility. That shit right there is hilarious.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 6:10 pm #
nope, alphie. Baracky is a lot exposed now as the dirty socialist Chicago street trash what him and his woman are I think. His idea is what he will do first is run and talk to his smiling and cheering throngs of male muslim friends overseas and make grovelly apology noises for America. He’s not someone you have to work really hard to smear you just have to let him sort of be himself I think.
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 6:11 pm #
KHQA,
We believed in the meeting before we disbelieved in the meeting. Channeling Kerry they are.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:11 pm #
“Will Levi make an honest teen out of her?”
I think their holding out to Christmas so they can claim…
‘Immaculate Conception’
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:11 pm #
I see the delusion machine is running at full tilt over here.
Keep telling yourself that until you see your Lord and Savior doing the perp walk on live TV.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:15 pm #
Oh, and I’ll bet you can’t find a single Illinois resident who was “shocked” by this.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:17 pm #
[i]Keep telling yourself that until you see your Lord and Savior doing the perp walk on live TV.[/i]
Oh come on. Not even the most stricken among the BDS thought Bush would be perp walked over Plame. Get a hold of yourself for chrissakes. The schadenfreude is killing me.
And happy? Your use of “Barack and his women” tells me more about you and your issues than I think you like. Seek help.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:18 pm #
Blago is a scumbag. No shit. I’m glad he’s getting his. Now can I join the ranks of the crazy right?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:19 pm #
The schadenfreude is killing me.
Sucks to be you, I guess.
But then, something tells me that’s not exactly a new feeling for you.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 6:22 pm #
Happy has already revealed to us that he is battling depression, ass.
We can work on his race issues once he’s well again.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:22 pm #
Which feeling? Schadenfreude or being me? They both kinda rock, really.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:23 pm #
“And happy? Your use of “Barack and his women†tells me more about you and your issues than I think you like. Seek help.”
I think he uses the word ‘happy’ as sarcasm…..
There’s nothing sadder than a clown.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:24 pm #
They both kinda rock, really.
No, they don’t.
You’re a sad little troll. The only thing that makes you feel alive is blind hero worship. See Eric Hoffer’s The True Believer
Buh-bye.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 6:26 pm #
“#Comment by thor on 12/10 @ 5:35 pm #
Barack is guilty of punk whuppin’.”
And you’re guilty of being a crazy pud puller.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:27 pm #
oh,oh.
Here comes another spate of idiocy from N’OB
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:27 pm #
SBP, you don’t know me. Don’t assume I blindly worship anyone. You on the other hand? I’ve seen plenty here to know you are seriously fucked up and wrong. That really sucks from what I can tell. At least your anger and rage are to be pitied.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:29 pm #
SBP, you don’t know me.
Yes, I do.
Trollhammered.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:29 pm #
“At least your anger and rage are to be pitied.”
Yeah, but at least he’s angry AND stupid, so he’s got that goin’ for him.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 6:30 pm #
Disgust and disapproval is really not the same thing as anger and rage.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:30 pm #
mental illness is a disease, parsnip. Truly. Never funny, even at proteinwisdom.com. Never.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:31 pm #
Bye SBP. Hope you learned something. About life. About love. About how sad and wrong you are. Alas, I doubt it.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:32 pm #
These guys are really interchangeable parts, SarahW. thor is slightly cruder, Semen is slightly more psychotic, assclown is slightly dumber.
All of them are wastes of time.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 6:32 pm #
Contempt isn’t rage, either.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 6:32 pm #
I didn’t say it was funny, Sarah.
Did you laugh?
You weren’t supposed to.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 6:32 pm #
Whew! The short bus stopped here and let everyone – assclown, thor, Cleo, and alphie – off. Not surprising, really – where else would they get the attention they crave?
“Don’t look at a 47 year old US Senator and his political associates! Look at a seventeen year old girl! She’s pregnant!”
Oh, and they are pathetic.
I denounce myself preemptively.
Comment by guinsPen on 12/10 @ 6:33 pm #
nothing sadder than a clown
Except the ‘tics of a clown.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:33 pm #
Sarah, if that is what you see here, I suggest you need an adjustment of your rage-o-meter cause it is pegged to “BLIND WHITE HOT RAGE” over on my end. And I just had it serviced.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 6:33 pm #
I am not the person I thought I knew I was.
And another one’s under the bus.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:34 pm #
Not surprising, really – where else would they get the attention they crave?
ODD is a sad thing, Mikey, particularly when it lasts into adulthood.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 6:35 pm #
If you want to talk about servicing yourself, Mr. Clown, you ought to go elsewhere.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:36 pm #
I’m glad SBP has access to the DSM IV. Perhaps he should spend less time worrying about trolls and more time on his own diagnosis. Too much like introspection, though. And we know how “classic liberals” (HA!) hate that. Too much like thinkin’.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 6:37 pm #
You know what’s hilarious?
The reactionaries like thorazine and seman and alpo and asscrust were standing with their fingers crossed, eyes closed, clicking their heels together, Hoping and Hoping and Hoping to be transported to Castle Obamalot, and sure enough there they are, standing with The Magnificent O! (PBUH), ready to cross the drawbridge into the socialist utopia, and along comes the Eeeevil Black Knight Blago riding at full tilt and splatters The Magnificent O! (PBUH) with mud and horseshit.
Ain’t it delicious?
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 6:38 pm #
I thought we were going to get a day without… I guess it must be a busman’s holiday for the lot.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 6:39 pm #
Sadder when it has an internet connection, SBP. Then the entire world can see what the family has been trying to keep quiet. The old solution of the ‘remittance man’ doesn’t work so good these days, and I am sure the mayfly’s daddy would agree.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:39 pm #
Ain’t it delicious?
Yes, it is.
As I said in another thread, they remind me of a 12 year old girl who into denial when her teen mag dreamboat turns out to be teh ghey.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/10 @ 6:40 pm #
mea culpa Sarah W.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 6:40 pm #
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:39 pm #
HA!
Comment by Random Ombuttsman on 12/10 @ 6:40 pm #
I guess it must be a busman’s holiday for the lot.
Knock it off.
Comment by Random Ombudsman on 12/10 @ 6:41 pm #
Blast!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:42 pm #
I think Alaska used to be a popular destination for such, Mikey.
Thorazine would wind up shot and dumped in the river, or chained to a tree and left for the bears to find if he went up there nowadays (or even in those days).
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 6:42 pm #
ennui is different than depression I think. Next year is gonna suck though and depression is a real option I think but probably things will work out a lot better than I expect. We’ll see. I expect whatever happens though I’ll be a lot more chipper than a lot of people what live in this dirty socialist little republic.* Jeez.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 6:43 pm #
N. O’B – you’ll be surprised to know that plenty of pragmatists voted for Obama because R’s had proven they can’t govern for shit in the past ten years. Sure, some reactionaries will be disappointed. Me? I’m just glad the government has been taken away from Republicans. They need some time to regroup.
I believe you don’t give a shit about Republicans. Your identity is tied up in HATING a caricature of the left that exists only in your mind. To you Obama=communism and America=Republican values. When America voted in Obama, the cognitive dissonance was too much to bear. The comments section here is the result. Beautiful.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 6:44 pm #
Be nice to them, ass.
Their cocoon can’t allow any reality to seep in.
Unable to really admit to themselves that Obama won in a landslide, the faith-based true believers must create an alternate fantasy where Obama doesn’t have an 80% approval rating.
It’s kind of entertaining in a way.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 6:44 pm #
Chad Everett is not!
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 6:46 pm #
I know I’d be a lot chipperer if I had bought that car I wanted before my monies shrank.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:47 pm #
“Then the entire world can see what the family has been trying to keep quiet.”
I know how y’all feel. If you recall the tables were turned just a few years back while Bushman diddled with the Constitution. We Progressives were a little frustrated at the lack of traction against
the Presidunce, and the sleeping Media’s validation of his every act.
You have my sympathy. I kinda hope some dirt turns up on Obama.
You know, something like, he loves his Country too much to misbehave like his predecessor.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 6:50 pm #
There are certain cars what are natural enemies of ennui I think to where the two can’t co-exist I think. I think I want one of those ones.
Comment by guinsPen on 12/10 @ 6:53 pm #
Leg’go my BlagO!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:53 pm #
The Hispano-Suiza Xenia is one of those cars, I think.
Too bad there’s only one of them.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 6:54 pm #
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 6:47 pm #
Do you speak English?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 6:56 pm #
“Your identity is tied up in HATING a caricature of the left that exists only in your mind. To you Obama=communism and America=Republican values. When America voted in Obama, the cognitive dissonance was too much to bear. The comments section here is the result. Beautiful.”
Ooooo, long distance psychoanalysis.
Shows what an idiot fool you truly are.
Keep shooting those blanks, though, ace, you scare the geese off the lawn.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 6:57 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 6:44 pm #
Be nice to them, ass.
Their cocoon can’t allow any reality to seep in.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
Oh, alpo, you are one funny clown.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 6:58 pm #
The Torpedo model was pretty cool, too, but I don’t think I’d want to deal with the upkeep of a wooden car.
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 7:00 pm #
You’re telling me.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 7:01 pm #
Western Termite & Pest Control Co. is salivating just about now.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 7:01 pm #
Hehe.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 7:02 pm #
“We Progressives were a little frustrated at the lack of traction against the Presidunce.”
Everyone here lived thru the 90’s…..
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 7:02 pm #
“We Progressives were a little frustrated at the lack of traction against the Presidunce.”
8 years of having your collective ass kicked does that to a reactionary.
(I mentioned “collective”. alfie is getting a chubby)
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 7:03 pm #
The progressive-based true believers should create an alternate reality where Obama doesn’t rule by an 80% approval rating. You know — and speaking of which, miss clio — not diddling with the Constitution.
(Why do I bother…)
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 7:04 pm #
Or alphie or which ever troll made that asinine remark…
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 7:05 pm #
Next week we have to do office Christmas cards where we have to all sign like a thousand cards and then we have to fold the cards and then we have to put them in envelopes and then we have to seal the envelopes and then we have to put labels on the envelopes then we have to put postage on the envelopes. Office Christmas cards are ennui’s most powerfulest ally and ours are super powerful cause we buy them from the UN and that’s just so wrong.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 7:07 pm #
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 7:05 pm #
UN cards?
Couldn’t you get 14 year old Cambodian girls to do that for you?
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 7:07 pm #
assclown, assuming you’re not thor (who failed the same test I’m about to administer to you) what is the heart of the left? What’s it’s redeeming value, principle, purpose and like that?
How’s it actually work, what with visible failure as it’s running epitaph.
Go for it. I’m not too old to either learn or change.
Comment by Karl Marx on 12/10 @ 7:08 pm #
IT’S A TRAP!
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 7:09 pm #
LOL
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 7:10 pm #
Meheh….
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 7:16 pm #
JH – the “visible failure” of the left? What the fuck are you on about, moron? This is what I’m talking about, right here. You are so far gone that all you see is “the left” (which is responsible for all failures of Western culture), and every thing else. That is just plain sad. Why? Because you will always be disappointed.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 7:16 pm #
One time like three years ago the Chinese guy at the shipping hut we went to cause our machine ran out of ink or something, we just paid him for stamps and then he put them on for us. That was the best Christmas ever so far. Actually this will be NG’s second Christmas and it goes a lot faster with her and she’s actually helpful unlike OG who is only minimally helpful except boss person made her redo some cause her labels were crooked and now she’s sort of dreading it this year. He will be gone this year probably for most of it so this year might be more pleasant than I’m expecting maybe. And that is the story of Christmas cards and how they relate to ennui and the lesson is make sure your labels are on straight. Peace.
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 7:36 pm #
Oh, well, that’s just such a disappointment.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 7:45 pm #
hi happy. I know you put alot of effort into your post. I didn’t read it.
Comment by guinsPen on 12/10 @ 7:52 pm #
Couldn’t.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 8:00 pm #
I see JHo’s here defending the Republicans who sold out their country just to make a buck.
Or is greed not the heart of what’s left of the “conservative” movement in America?
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 8:11 pm #
JHoward,
That question always brings this to mind.
The answer is the same for the left too.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 8:12 pm #
My husband is always giving me sage advices like “The perfect is enemy of the good” and I have to correct him and tell him nononono, the good is enemy of the PERFECT! Which is why there are no labels on any cards at this late date in December.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 8:16 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 8:00 pm #
I see JHo’s here defending the Republicans who sold out their country just to make a buck.
Or is greed not the heart of what’s left of the “conservative†movement in America?”
The evil Knight Blago laughs at your pretensions.
HA HA HA, he says.
He slso says you’re a reactionary lunatic.
Comment by SarahW on 12/10 @ 8:17 pm #
Blago was just a decent man trying to keep his family fed, right? Paying off those student loans, no doubt.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 8:25 pm #
but what does PHIL GRAHAM have to say about all this?
Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/10 @ 8:29 pm #
Wasn’t alphie banned?
Why isn’t the ban carried over to his “parsnip” alias?
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 8:37 pm #
You make my point, infant. Brilliantly, I might add, even if/as you make a complete shambles of what you thought you knew, and even more of a fool of yourself. You’re canned meat, you vegetable.
You cannot comprehend “conservatism”. As you fling straw about I see that even more clearly now. If you could define it — especially at the intellectual level, which is interchangable with any valid definition thereof — you’d never have piped up.
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 8:41 pm #
Sure. You won’t answer what you deny has right to ask. Elegant and noble, that.
Like I suggested, if I could find it, I’m certain my disappointment is exceeded only by my surprise.
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 8:42 pm #
Just thought I’d borrow that, clown. Because of all the effort you put into your answer, you know.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 8:48 pm #
Yes define conservatism for me please?????
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 8:54 pm #
Is George W. Bush a “conservative” JHo?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 8:56 pm #
NO HE IS NOT.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 8:56 pm #
“You cannot comprehend “conservatismâ€Â.”
What the fuck is, ‘conservatism?
Is there any more discredited ideology. (other than the Reich)?
Change the name to ‘classic liberal’ if you must, but as ideas go, it’s still a bust. Reinvent the Regressive rant, but the positive result is less than scant. Use anti-Obama obfuscation, at the risk of your questionable reputation. But the smell you exude, to the rest is quite rude, and makes you all rank and gnarly dudes…..
Comment by Roland THTG on 12/10 @ 8:57 pm #
BUUUSSSHSHHSSHSSHHH JOOOOOOOOOOOOS HALIBURTON!@!!!!!!11111
There, how’s that?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 8:58 pm #
you forgot, “Only forty-nine ninety nine and ooooonly on pay per view”
Comment by MAJ (P) John on 12/10 @ 9:02 pm #
Comment by Karl Marx on 12/10 @ 7:08 pm #
IT’S A TRAP!
Hey, pal – you stay off Admiral Akbar’s lines, OK?
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:04 pm #
Have you seen what the Democrats have governing, asshole? Have you seen their approval rating? Pragmatists, of which there are damned few, held their nose and voted one way or another. Shiny Happy People voted for Hopenchange.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:04 pm #
Oh, I meant assclown. My bad.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 9:06 pm #
I think Pablo is trying to steal poor, sad happyfeet’s profanity crown.
Swearing means you’re smart!
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:07 pm #
“Just thought I’d borrow that, clown. Because of all the effort you put into your answer, you know.”
Fuck you JHoward and your resident cowards. Your brain trust has soured, your own you’ve devoured. Let History judge, your packing of fudge, whilst your minions squander time, and revel in the slime of vociferous, melodious grime.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:08 pm #
‘feets, go with a green one. And get it in red.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:09 pm #
Suck my dick, alphie,you fucking shitbag waste of oxygen. :-)
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:10 pm #
Does O! have an identifiable ideology, snot? Or is it personal and subjective? Does Blago define an ethic? Pelosi a principle? Clinton a truth? Reid a moral trajectory?
I mean, you elected them
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:11 pm #
No, wait. I like my dick. Don’t touch it. How about if you just kill yourself instead?
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:11 pm #
The self-writing vindication. The self-penning slap-down. Thanks, dude.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:13 pm #
.” Thanks, dude.’
Weak. Even for a geek.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:13 pm #
Dynamic IP addresses.
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:15 pm #
Sorry to get under your skin, intellectual self-flagellator. I tried to warn you: With any bullshit premise it’s inevitable you’ll fail.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:16 pm #
“Sorry to get under your skin,”
On the contrary…you’re an inspriation
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:17 pm #
Come on, miss clio, prove to me you can divorce your Booosh doll from the nature of conservatism. Do it.
Comment by Ric Locke on 12/10 @ 9:18 pm #
“Conservatism” is easily defined: When in doubt, go with what has worked in the past.
“Progressivism” is best explained in existential fashion: GIMME YOUR DAMN MONEY, YOU CRIMINAL, SO I CAN BE COMPASSIONATE WITH IT!
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:19 pm #
‘divorce your Booosh doll from the nature of conservatism. Do it.”
You first…..
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:20 pm #
No sweat, clio: Bush is no conservative.
Your move.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:21 pm #
“Bush is no conservative.”
Please cite the number and dates of your critiques.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:25 pm #
I’ll assume yer homework is in progress if I hear some indication….
otherwise……….
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:29 pm #
Tell me what’s wrong with conservatism, miss chimp. And what’s right with the corrupt players on the left.
From there you can get into your own credos if you wish, but I may take little interest, just to warn you. Because you have nothing.
Politics are asymmetrical. That you cannot see that speaks volumes about who you are.
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:29 pm #
I thought as much. Moe and Curley are calling you to dinner….
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:31 pm #
“volumes about who you are.”
Do you have mirrors in that cave you hang in?
You slavishly supported the non-conservative Bush because you are
Bush. Eat it. Drink it. Sleep it. Die with it.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:32 pm #
Yer not paying attention, ‘clio. Try the archives. They’re chock full. JHoward is very much on the record as being quite unhappy with our government.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 9:33 pm #
You are delusional. Eat it. Drink it. Sleep it. Die with it.
Comment by Roland THTG on 12/10 @ 9:35 pm #
McCain Feingold
Prescription Coverage
Immigration
TSA
Balooning Budgets
9/11 Commission
Sandy Berger
Colin Powell
Condi Rice
Bush was the lesser weevil
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 9:40 pm #
She can’t afford to. Asymmetry in politics equals asymmetry in morals equals asymmetry among souls: There are givers and there are takers. There are thieves and there are victims. They may not be given equal footing but that’s what the left depends on to survive. The Booosh doll is a simple ruse.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 9:45 pm #
Comment by Semanticleo on 12/10 @ 9:07 pm #
Do you speak English?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 9:46 pm #
“Dynamic IP addresses.”
Too bad his posts are so boring.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 9:50 pm #
Classical liberalism is a belief in individual freedom, democratic (small d) government, property rights, the rule of law, free markets, laissez-faire economics and market competition.
Yet we get called fascist.
By fascists.
The irony, it burns, it burns.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 9:53 pm #
If Bush isn’t a Conservative, who is?
Czarina Palin trying to protect her comrades from the peril of falling oil tax revenue?
Diaper Dave Vitter boldly trying to prevent Detroit from getting some of Louisiana’s government checks?
Mittens?
Huck-huck-huck-a-bee?
Do tell!
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 9:53 pm #
“Asymmetry in politics equals asymmetry in morals equals asymmetry among souls: There are givers and there are takers. There are thieves and there are victims. They may not be given equal footing but that’s what the left depends on to survive. The Booosh doll is a simple ruse.”
Black and white is all you see. That’s fine but all you know is “the left” is responsible for all bad acts. Progressive policies have worked at times in the past, conservative policies have worked in the past. Both have failed, too.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 10:01 pm #
N O’B – Bullshit. That is not what you believe. It’s a convenient cover for justifying your hatred for the concept of “the left”. All the fuckwad diaries here from Darleen about the sanctity of motherhood and the precious life in zygotes belies your nonsense. That has nothing to do with the free market and everything to do with opposing the perceived influence of those nasty representatives of “the left” – gays. Show me the free market reasoning behind banning gay marriage and stem cell research.
Comment by geoffb on 12/10 @ 10:04 pm #
The left, they covet. That is their nature.
With apologies to Thomas Harris.
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 10:10 pm #
Change the name to ‘classic liberal’ if you must, but as ideas go, it’s still a bust.
But don’t question his patriotism. Or his love of the Constitution.
He loves him some Constitution, except for all the fucked up parts, you know?
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 10:14 pm #
Show me the free market reasoning behind banning gay marriage and stem cell research.
The free market has nothing to do with gay marriage, I will leave that for another to explain as I really don’t feel that strongly about it.
My only gripe with stem cell research, and I would venture the position of most of the regulars here, is that I have no problem with it as long as it isn’t government funded. I feel that way about most research, if it has the potential to be profitable, let the profiteers fund it. Do I really need to explain how that fits in the free market?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 10:17 pm #
I am pretty hammered right now since it is 1 dollar thursdays but I will take a stab at the whole definition of conservatism thing.
It just means leave me the fuck alone.
Any questions?
Comment by JHoward on 12/10 @ 10:21 pm #
Wrong and wrong. Again: You can’t identify either what you think or why you do. You don’t know what it is you reject, excepting your projections. Statements like that one are ample proof.
It’s not the politics that “work” or “fail”. The question is what underlies the motives and intents that create the politics. Just as the spectrum of motive points to the asymmetry of the application of principle — cheats insisting on equal footing while extending anything but fair play — so go the outcomes of policies.
You’ve a serious cart and horse issue, which is part of why you don’t know what conservatism fundamentally is.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 10:23 pm #
Well, it’s nice to define conservativsm by starting with “cheats are everyone I say is a cheat, and conservatives are against them”. See the problem here?
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 10:26 pm #
Progressive policies have worked at times in the past…
Can I get a for instance?
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 10:26 pm #
I think the problem with “conservatism” is that all the politicians who say they’re “conservatives” are really socialists.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 10:26 pm #
Yes. You lack sufficient ability for comprehension and you substitute kneejerk assumption for understanding.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 10:27 pm #
No the problem is you voting for shit outa my pocket. FUCK YOU. That is how my drunk ass defines conservatism.
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 10:27 pm #
And another thing, siding with the haves versus the have-nots is not exactly the dominion of conservatives. Show me a liberal politician who doesn’t take money from rich people. Show me a conservative who doesn’t make pretty noises about gay marriage and family values to get the poor white trash to vote for them.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 10:28 pm #
Pol Pot killed about a quarter of the population of Cambodia. Who says progressives can’t get things done?
Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 10:28 pm #
Thanks for the input Pablo. I am fairly certain you are dumb as fuck so I’m not too worried.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 10:28 pm #
I think the problem with “conservatism†is that all the politicians who say they’re “conservatives†are really socialists.
Yes that is a problem.
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 10:29 pm #
One bit of research I would consider government funding for is how blog posts can escape the gravitational pull of something as dense as parsnip.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 10:29 pm #
Pol Pot hated teachers, judges and the wealthy.
I think that makes him a Republican, Pablo.
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 10:30 pm #
How about I show you a president-elect who says the same things?
Progress!
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 10:31 pm #
Your thinker is all fucked up, alphie. You might want to put a bullet in it.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 12/10 @ 10:31 pm #
Show me a liberal politician who doesn’t take money from rich people. Show me a conservative who doesn’t make pretty noises about gay marriage and family values to get the poor white trash to vote for them.
I think your missing the point. The problem would be politician A or politician B voting for money out of one citizens pocket to give to another. That is the death of everything WE know. I say we cause that is both you and us.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 10:38 pm #
oh, we’re having one of those “confusing practice with principles” things again, aren’t we?
we can’t have nice ideals.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 10:52 pm #
hi happy. I know you put alot of effort into your post. I didn’t read it.
that’s ok but what I will do is I will bookmark it for you for later for when you want the backstory when Christmas cards come up again so you won’t feel left out.
I like the tesla Pablo but it’s a little flash maybe. My favorite sports car is the vw gti cause it performs without looking so much like you’re that guy.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 10:56 pm #
1 dollar thursdays I think defines conservatism pretty good right there until you look at what percentage of that $1 is taxes and then we’re right back at the dirty socialist well.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 10:57 pm #
“Comment by assclown on 12/10 @ 10:01 pm #
N O’B – Bullshit. That is not what you believe.”
Gee, thanks asscrust, for straightening me out. I was so confused.
Chuckleheaded moron.
“It’s a convenient cover for justifying your hatred for the concept of “the leftâ€Â.”
What is? My hatred for the reactionary left? me and 100,000,000 murded victims of “the left” are reason enough.
“All the fuckwad diaries here from Darleen about the sanctity of motherhood and the precious life in zygotes belies your nonsense.”
Ummm, I can’t make heads or tails out of that sentance. Try English.
“That has nothing to do with the free market and everything to do with opposing the perceived influence of those nasty representatives of “the left†– gays.”
I can give two flying fucks about someones sexual preferences. So take your that asentence, fold it until it’s all corners and shove it up your ass. Becasue I am truly tolerant. Unlike you. Your prejudice forces you to believe that all gays are leftists.
“Show me the free market reasoning behind banning gay marriage and stem cell research.”
Any gay can marry whomever he or she wants. As long as it’s a member of the opposite sex. Civil unions sound ok to me, however.
As to SC research, show me how it’s “banned”, or more importantly, show me why the Federal government should fund it at all.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/10 @ 11:02 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 10:29 pm #
Pol Pot hated teachers, judges and the wealthy.”
alpo, will you please, please please return to Teh Stooopid Universeâ„¢ whence you came.
You idiocy is polluting our universe.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 11:04 pm #
N.O.,
If you guys learned to debate instead of always falling back on infantile insults, you might win an election once in a while.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:07 pm #
like, say, the years 2000-2006? There are other stretches there, but whatevs. HOPE! CHANGE! that’s some debatin’ right there. Who doesn’t want a unicorn?
Comment by Pablo on 12/10 @ 11:14 pm #
Do it for Gaia, ‘feets!
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 11:19 pm #
Did you see they’re working on a Mini hybrid? I might could do that for Gaia some day but it would be the car after this next one.
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 11:23 pm #
oh. not hybrid. It’s all electric. That’s a problem with the apartment thing you really need to think about before buying one of those.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 11:27 pm #
No sweat, clio: Bush is no conservative.
Like all “progressives”, Semen can’t even imagine that someone might approve of some of Bush’s policies (e.g., vigorous prosecution of the war on terror), while disapproving of others (e.g., unrestrained government spending in other areas).
With them, it’s either blind obedience or pure hatred. If you support any of Bush’s policies, you must support all of them.
Binary minds.
Again, see Hoffer on this.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 11:31 pm #
You guys lost 2000, maggie.
and 2006.
remember?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:35 pm #
I have a numbers problem… just like Obama. sorry, was thinking time in office(s). oh well. curious how it is “we” lost 2000. BWAH HA HA HA HA haaaaaa. I thought “we” had complete control the last eight years. or do you guys also have a numbers problem?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:37 pm #
Do we know yet if Obama remembers how many states there are?
Comment by happyfeet on 12/10 @ 11:44 pm #
It doesn’t change how Baracky lied about him and his friend Blago not talking about who to pick to take his Senate seat. What this means is that Baracky is a liar on top of everything else and you can’t believe him when he says stuff. He’s really getting off on the wrong foot.
Comment by parsnip on 12/10 @ 11:48 pm #
Obama knows the 29 states that voted for him, maggie.
The few that voted against him, well, better buy some kneepads.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/10 @ 11:48 pm #
Did I mention how much shorter this thread is with Trollhammer turned on?
Comment by B Moe on 12/10 @ 11:50 pm #
If you guys learned to debate instead of always falling back on infantile insults, you might win an election once in a while.
hmmmm….
The few that voted against him, well, better buy some kneepads.
And tuberhead won’t even understand my amusement.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:51 pm #
why?
oooooh, cause he’ll be dragging us all down with him? thanks!
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/10 @ 11:59 pm #
maybe now I’ll finally get to experience that WORST.ECONOMY.EVAR. or not. we’ll have to wait and see.
for reals though, I was talking to my mom tonight about how this is the fun time of the accounting year aaaaand they’re trying to fill a couple positions on top of that.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 7:38 am #
#335 BMoe:
To the progressive, everything comes down to economics. To the conservative, it doesn’t.
Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 2:26 pm #
Assclown betrays his Kos roots with the use of the word “diaries” to describe the posts here…
I wonder if he was assigned to us by the dark lord Kos, or if he just shows up on his own..?
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Comment by The Intellectual Redneck on 12/14 @ 9:19 am #
Obama’s Blagojevich story is crumbling.
Obama insisted that none of his staff had a part in the attempted selling of his Senate seat by Gov. Blagojevich. “I have never spoken with the governor on this subject. I am confident that no representative of mine would have any part in any deals related to this seat,” Obama said. It appears that Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, has been talking to Blagojevich. The details of those discussions are not yet known.
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