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The Glamour of Stupid [Dan Collins]

Baader Meinhof: just as principled as the Weather Underground.

NYT: White capitalists to blame for Wal-Mart trampling death

Al Jazeera on Root Causes:

While India awaits the outcome of the criminal investigation in the aftermath of the attacks, some analysts have speculated that a marked shift in Indian foreign policy over the last few years, namely a growing closeness to the US, could be a reason why the country was targeted by international terror networks.

Some have already started to question the wisdom behind the tilt towards the US and say it has put India on the vulnerable side of the economic and social world order.

The only silver lining is that there have been no blatant calls for Pakistani blood.

The Pakistani foreign minister’s presence in India helped calm the situation as he made some sensible observations about both countries being united in grief.

The neighbouring countries have also decided to share intelligence information and the impending visit of the Pakistani intelligence agency (ISI) chief to New Delhi is anxiously awaited to clear up the clouds of suspicion.

It is clear that intelligence officials across the world will have to develop better coordination to battle against such attacks.

Root causes

However, it would not be wise to assume that all this can be controlled without addressing the root causes of such brazen assaults.

Socio-religious and economic harmony will continue to be challenged unless disparities are acknowledged and amended.

It happened in Islamabad yesterday, Mumbai today and can happen in any other city tomorrow.

Nations and cities cannot function in a state of red alert, nor can para-military forces constantly be policing their own citizens.

The images and sounds of gunpowder and firing and mortar shells broadcast through TV networks across the country are likely to linger long after the dust settles on the violence unleashed in Mumbai.

Amitabh Bachchan, the iconic Bollywood star, summed it up in his blog when he said that he slept with his revolver loaded under his pillow.

This aptly reflects the sentiment of a city under seige.

JG Thayer at Commentary:

Once again, a horrific atrocity has been committed by a group of committed, determined Muslims willing and eager to die in the name of their faith. And, as usual, the Islamic groups have pulled out their standard boilerplate responses:

Disclaimer #1: “These people do not represent True Islam.”

Disclaimer #2: “You must not blame all Muslims for the deeds of these misguided few (who we embraced as brothers right up until they started killing).”

Disclaimer #3: “What they did was terrible, but they were provoked by the oppression and attacks on Muslims around the world, mostly by Israel and the West.”

Disclaimer #4: “We fear a terrible backlash from non-Muslims, and demand that you protect us from those who would threaten us or say mean things or do things to insult us.”

It looks like we’re somewhere between #2 and #3, but we can be quite certain that within a week or two they’ll get around to the fourth point.

It would make a fascinating study to compare two numbers: the number of people killed every year by Muslims for the offense of not being Muslim, and the number of Muslims killed every year by non-Muslims for the offense of being Muslim.

And, maybe, a third number: the number of Muslims killed every year by other Muslims for the offense of not being good enough Muslims, or the wrong type of Muslim.

My completely uneducated guess would be that the first number would be far, far greater than the second — and the third would dwarf the first two combined.

Other religions have had their aggressive, expansionist, conquering phase, but they grew out of it. Islam is still in its aggressive, conquering phase. It’s been often noted that “Islam has bloody borders.” One can only hope that it, too, will grow and mature past it.

And soon — or that backlash that they whine about just might happen some day.

131 Replies to “The Glamour of Stupid [Dan Collins]”

  1. Sdferr says:

    I feel a list coming on. Of scumbags who, we notice, are alive but shouldn’t be. Something is broken.

  2. Pablo says:

    Socio-religious and economic harmony will continue to be challenged unless disparities are acknowledged and amended.

    No. It’s the jihad, stupid.

  3. Dash Rendar says:

    Civilians will be slaughtered in the streetsSocio-religious and economic harmony will continue to be challenged unless disparities are acknowledged and amended until the jizyah is payed and complete submission to the will of radical clerics is the norm.

  4. Dash Rendar says:

    Ok, try again:

    Civilians will be slaughtered in the streets, Socio-religious and economic harmony will continue to be challenged unless disparities are acknowledged and amended until the jizyah is payed and complete submission to the will of radical clerics is the norm.

  5. Dash Rendar says:

    nope html tags not so good.

  6. Ric Locke says:

    It should probably be routine and boring by now, but it never ceases to astonish: The Islamists get up in public, and explain in words of few syllables and sentences with simple structure what their aims and intents are, and what their strategies and tactics will be. Then they sit down, and before they can get their robes arranged in the damned uncomfortable Western chairs, up pops a leftoid to explain that nothing the guy said has any relation to reality, and the real reason they’re doing that is [insert leftoind laundry-list here].

    I swear, it’s got to be at least forty percent of the reason they’re so soreheaded all the time. Being constantly called an ignoramus and a liar has to get wearing.

    Regards,
    Ric

  7. Scott Crawford says:

    I suspect the “wearing” comes more from the “being” than from the “calling,” Ric.

  8. Socio-religious and economic harmony will continue to be challenged unless disparities are acknowledged and amended.

    So, these killers wouldn’t have had a jihadist thought in their heads if they could only have gotten jobs in a tech support call center…?

  9. Pablo says:

    Having jackasses like that “helping” you with your meaning has to be pretty freaking irritating on its own.

  10. Ric Locke says:

    Scott: whether or not a given individual is in fact stupid and/or ignorant doesn’t affect how they feel about being called that. Example: thor.

    Regards,
    Ric

  11. happyfeet says:

    The New York Times is using its own market as propaganda fodder? That seems uncommonly stupid even for them.

  12. panther girl says:

    On a broader theme, it’s no wonder libs have no trouble blaming conservatives for everything. When we’ve done wrong (even in the smallest sense) we tend to own up to it, and they never do (or at least, when they do: “it was my fault but I wouldn’t have had to do it if it weren’t for…” which is a way of not actually taking responsibility). So of course, everything is always the fault of the folks who “admit” that they do bad things. Makes me want to consider never taking responsibility for anything again. But that’s no way to live. Plus the whole generalized white guilt thing would be a bear to have to live with.

  13. Scott Crawford says:

    Pablo #9, if you’re referring to my comment, you and Ric both have my sincere apologies. I’m fully aware that the meaning of Ric’s writing needs none of my help.

    I’m simply suggesting that being an actual ignoramus might, in the long run, be more difficult to endure than being called one.

  14. parsnip says:

    My completely uneducated guess would be that the first number would be far, far greater than the second

    The Muslims our troops accidently kill should go in the “the number of Muslims killed every year by non-Muslims for the offense of being Muslim” column.

    We frequently take out the equivalent of a Mubai in a single wedding party strike.

  15. Dash Rendar says:

    Ah, the infamous, obligatory, spurious wedding party defense. In addition to being tu quoque, one must suspend all belief in the existence of enemy psy-ops.

  16. Dan Collins says:

    Sorry, parsnip, but you’re screwing up the glamour part of the title.

  17. ushie says:

    Yes, parsnip, Stupid mean old Murkin troops always choose to bomb wedding parties. In fact, they actually go through the local engagement announcements to plan their next bombings. Undercover Murkin lance corporals disguise themselves as Muslim wedding planners and relay the receptions’ locations to pinpoint, professional wedding party bombers who have specially designed wedding party bombs in their bombbays and wait until the first toast to drop their bombs. It’s a well-known fact that, if a bomber doesn’t drop his bombs on the wedding party before the Muslim father-daughter dance, his combat pay is docked and he then has to go undercover as a Muslim wedding party planner (those pastel hijab are too frilly to be comfortable).

    Most experts agree: If Muslim wedding parties rented balloon-fences to place around their wedding reception sites first, their wedding parties would not be bombed. However, many choose to have the full-scale chicken-stuffed-inside-a-goat-stuffed-into-a-camel buffet surprise instead–a woeful misuse of their wedding party budget.

  18. Pablo says:

    Scott, remember the old maxim. Ignorance is bliss.

    Personally, I’d rather it were excruciatingly painful.

  19. parsnip says:

    enemy psy-ops

    “Enemy” meaning any media that works for the terrorists by announcing what they’ve done?

    Let’s face it, if the same people had died in a hotel fire, this story might get a single passing mention in the MSM and blogs.

    If they’d starved to death, no mention at all.

    Bloggers and MSM editors know what their audience craves.

    Is the head dead yet?

  20. Brock says:

    I think the root cause is that Amitabh Bachchan didn’t have a loaded revolver under his pillow last night. Luckily this appears to be self-correcting. Hopefully memory will remain.

  21. Ric Locke says:

    And, of course, Muslims who blow up wedding parties (or, indeed, any random assemblage of women, children, and/or cute puppies) generate no resentment whatever, or at least no justifiable resentment. All for the Cause, eh, alph?

    Regards,
    Ric

  22. I thought they preferred funerals, Ric.

  23. Darleen says:

    the same people had died in a hotel fire, this story might get a single passing mention in the MSM and blogs.

    Yeah, bah-by, because death by car accident is the same as death by first degree murder!

  24. Ric Locke says:

    Well, probably, Maggie, but alph needed to be reminded that not all wedding bombings are done by by bitter, clinging Amurrican sodjers forced into their positions by economic forces. Not that it will do any good in the specific case, of course, but onlookers should have the information.

    Regards,
    Ric

  25. Rob Crawford says:

    Of scumbags who, we notice, are alive but shouldn’t be.

    Form a committee for aesthetic deletions, in other words?

  26. parsnip says:

    Yeah, bah-by, because death by car accident is the same as death by first degree murder!

    For the victims it is, Darleen.

  27. Rob Crawford says:

    Yeah, bah-by, because death by car accident is the same as death by first degree murder!

    The left is utterly unwilling to judge on any basis other than political utility. Thus, jihadis seeking to commit murder are morally neutral (or, possibly, a net good, if they can blame the US or Israel) in their world, while any product of a free society that increases anyone’s risk of death by even the smallest fraction is proof that “big business” would slit your throat in order to increase the bottom line.

    (Oh, and the wedding party crap is another favorite of the “alpha victim”. Why do asshats who’ve been banned insist on coming back?)

  28. Sdferr says:

    Committee? Aren’t there too many committees already, as in, a major part of the thing that’s broken?

    How’s about one or two of those extant law writing committees in the EU re-instituting the death penalty for terrorist murderers within their jurisdiction, for a start, so the murdering bastards aren’t seen to walk away from a “life” sentence after doing 15-20 years? No forming necessary in other words. Just do justice.

  29. N. O'Brain says:

    #12, PG:

    “The reason any conservative’s failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: Hypocrisy! Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames them. Inasmuch as liberals have no morals, they can sit back and criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It’s an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.”

    -Ann Coulter

  30. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by parsnip on 11/29 @ 1:26 pm #

    My completely uneducated guess would be that the first number would be far, far greater than the second

    The Muslims our troops accidently kill should go in the “the number of Muslims killed every year by non-Muslims for the offense of being Muslim” column.

    We frequently take out the equivalent of a Mubai in a single wedding party strike.”

    Fuck you, alfie.

    You’re not good enough to lick the sand from my sons combat boots.

    So, fuck you, once again, pussy.

  31. Rob Crawford says:

    Committee? Aren’t there too many committees already, as in, a major part of the thing that’s broken?

    It’s a literary reference. More or less.

  32. Darleen says:

    Comment by parsnip on 11/29 @ 2:10 pm #

    Thank you for again proving you are a moral moron.

  33. N. O'Brain says:

    Correction: an amoral moron.

  34. parsnip says:

    Moral judgements are religious judgements, Darleen.

    And your god told you to leave those up to him.

  35. Mikey NTH says:

    The list of excuses are the same old laundry list of excuses for crime that were presented in the twenty years from the mid 1960’s to the mid 1980’s. And the excuses are just as threadbare and useless now as they were then.

    They do because they can. They will stop when they can’t do, or they die.

  36. Darleen says:

    Moral judgements are religious judgements, Darleen

    keep going, root veggie, this is fun.

    You don’t think laws against murder, assault and stealing are indicative of the moral values of the society that enacts them?

    In a parshit world, there would be no law, courts or jails?

  37. ushie says:

    Yes, parsnip, you fathead, if Sharon Tate had been hit by bus and killed instantly, it would have been exactly the same for her family as the reality in which she was butchered to death for quite a while.

    My God, how do you sleep at night–no, I’m not talking about your (hah!) conscience or sense of morality. I mean, doesn’t your awareness of your imbecility just tear you up?

  38. parsnip says:

    No, Darleen.

    But in my world, we wouldn’t blow a trillion dollar trying to avenge ourselves on people who are already dead.

  39. happyfeet says:

    It’s a fucked up religion in a lot of ways but what’re ya gonna do. For real lots of them are good eggs. I still like the part where we kill terrorists. Baracky has taken so much off the table in terms of a muscular response I bet the terrorist people are feeling a little giddy. Hopefully the terrorist people will focus on being someone else’s problem out of their sense of solidarity with Baracky but somehow I doubt it.

  40. Scott Crawford says:

    But in my world…

    …everyone would speak either German or Japanese.

  41. happyfeet says:

    It was unremarked upon that I saw anywhere that maybe the “humanitarian mission” what CNN has discovered in Iraq is more for international consumption than for us here at home. That’s my tentative thinking on their propagandizing anyway.

  42. ushie says:

    Oh, hell, I’m gonna join the eugenicist/pro-abortion side. If nishi, thor, and parsnip are examples of modern humanity, jsut the hell with it.

    When you stare into the abyss, you notice it’s drooling a bit and its left eye is all twitchy.

  43. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Scott Crawford on 11/29 @ 3:15 pm #

    But in my world…

    …everyone would speak either German or Japanese.”

    hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    parsniphead is a fascist wannbe.

    I’m betting he’s sitting in front if his computer with a tiny litte mustache drawn with his own shit.

  44. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by ushie on 11/29 @ 3:55 pm #

    Dude, that is fucking funny.

  45. Hvy Mtl Hntr says:

    #30- N. O’Brain-

    I couldn’t agree more!

  46. happyfeet says:

    India is for real historically a lot more backlashy than most countries terrorists terrorize. I bet they don’t disappoint this time around but we’ll see I guess. Pakistan does not choose its enemies wisely I don’t think. If I were a Pakistani I would be embarrassed my country was so dirty and debased and revolting.

  47. parsnip says:

    The 9/11 hijackers were trained in America, happy.

    Yet you guys never call for attacks on Florida and Arizona for some reason.

    Guilt by association for thee but not for me?

  48. The Al Jazeera report about Pakistani foreign minister is a joke. The guy sat there trying to deflect the blame, implying that India always shouts out “Pakistan” in knee-jerk fashion, and this could be internal. Pakistan is great at PR, it’s almost as if when we were partitioned, they got all the PR prowess and we got democracy. While I’ll take democracy any day, Pakistan gets away far too much and the PR is leaving a bad taste in the mouth.

    We have screwed up a few times in India and as an Indian, I feel shitty about it. A pakistani blogger came over to my blog and decided to lecture India a little. I had to respond. Please read @ http://tinyurl.com/6ooluu

  49. happyfeet says:

    oh. whatever. I fully support a limited tactical primary challenge by special forces in Arizona to take out McCain’s tired useless ass at whatever cost. hey I just noticed I was being oblique earlier at #41. My thought I’m working on is that as CNN starts to propagandize the world in the interest of Baracky’s dirty socialist America without the terrorist people on board they might could get a heaping helping of backlash themselves.

  50. happyfeet says:

    That’s ok, Indian Guy. India is a lot the future and everybody messes up sometimes. You guys hang in there cause you are a promising beacon of real hope in the world not Baracky’s dirty socialist plastic fake kind.

  51. Geoffrey Britain says:

    “Other religions have had their aggressive, expansionist, conquering phase, but they grew out of it. Islam is still in its aggressive, conquering phase. It’s been often noted that “Islam has bloody borders.” One can only hope that it, too, will grow and mature past it.”

    Islam has been in it’s ‘aggressive, expansionist, conquering’ phase since 630 AD…

    If Islam hasn’t ‘grown’ and ‘matured’ out of that ‘phase’ in 1,378 years…how much longer should the world wait before being justified in reaching another conclusion?

    Might it be that Islamic radicals are simply being true to a primary tenant of Islam, that Jihad continues until Islam rules supreme over the entire world?

    In which case, Islam’s ‘aggressive, expansionist,& conquering’ isn’t a PHASE but is rather its very NATURE?

    And if that is so, it is Islam’s ‘moderates’ who refuse to face the truth about the religion to which they ‘submit’.

    Should this in fact be the reality we face, its an inconvenient truth…to be sure. But refusing to acknowledge the truth NEVER makes it go away.

  52. happyfeet says:

    Pakistan is not the future. It’s sort of a ghetto country really. Bless their hearts but jeez could they be more spastically violent and generally revolting? Probably they could is what I think. They’re on a roll.

  53. Darleen says:

    The 9/11 hijackers were trained in America, happy.

    Yet you guys never call for attacks on Florida and Arizona for some reason.

    Dude, you have some major brain issues going on if you think the waiter who serves the rapist his bacon and eggs the day of the rape is just as guilty as the rapist.

    If you hold America and American values in such contempt, why don’t you leave?

  54. ushie says:

    Thanks, N.O’. I liked how the abyss showed up at #47 to iterate its drooling.

    Although parts of FLA I could do without…

  55. Jeffersonian says:

    For the victims it is, Darleen.

    So, al-phee, we need to start prosecuting those involved in accidents as murderers?

  56. ushie says:

    Darleen, it can’t figure out how to draw money out of its bank account, buy an airplane ticket to North Korea, and get to the airport.

    “Oh,” it wonders,”How do those confounded ATMs work?” Then it cries a little and curls up in back of the dryer again for a nice nap.

  57. Rusty says:

    #47 Left hand side of the bell curve, eh.

  58. Jeffersonian says:

    Moral judgements are religious judgements, Darleen.

    And your god told you to leave those up to him.

    Read the book of Titus (it’s quite short), al-phee, and tell us how one fulfills its commands by morally lobotomizing one’s self (as you appear to have done).

    You’re really an ignoramus, buddy.

  59. Darleen says:

    So, al-phee, we need to start prosecuting those involved in accidents as murderers?

    Actually, I believe the root veggie is that weird parasitic creature known as a anarcho-syndicalist, who bleet “homes not jails” and “property is theft” and sneer at Judeao-Christian values and work ethic … but never go anywhere to try and institute their utopia .. they just live on welfare/food stamps or leech off relatives while preening that their lack of any standards or values makes them superior beings.

  60. happyfeet says:

    alphie is sort of starting to give off a doesn’t get out much kind kind of vibe. There’s a certain staleness to his whole shtick that I don’t remember being as pronounced when he was here last time. I think he got a charge out of the Iraq war that’s fading and he’s just sort of festering. Or wallowing. Could be both, it’s hard to know.

  61. Jeffersonian says:

    I was thinking along the lines of “reductionist moron,” Darleen. Apparently al-phee does believe that pushing an old lady in front of a bus is exactly the same as pushing her out from in front of a bus.

  62. happyfeet says:

    oh. I put kind in there twice. All these different posts linked here are about propaganda. It’s becoming a really big sophisticated thing and I think a lot of little lefty troll people are feeling crowded out of their niche.

  63. parsnip says:

    Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Case closed.

    Like a drunk driver who crashes and manages to kill others as well as himself or the standard husband/wife murder/suicide story.

    Tragic, yes, but nothing you can do about it.

  64. happyfeet says:

    no they captured one is what I read

  65. Jeffersonian says:

    Why does the Left insist on glamourizing scum like Baader-Meinhof, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, et al., and giving respectability to filth like Ayers, Dohrn, Angela Davis?

  66. Jeffersonian says:

    Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Case closed.

    Right as usual, bright boy…One is in custody, being interrogated. I suspect he’ll have an interesting story to tell about all the folks back in Karachi who set this little jamboree up.

  67. Scott Crawford says:

    Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Except, of course, for the one they’re interrogating: http://tinyurl.com/6ewnry

  68. Scott Crawford says:

    Missed your comment, Jacksonian. Sorry.

  69. Scott Crawford says:

    Ditto, happyfeet.

    Must refresh before posting comment.

  70. Scott Crawford says:

    Actually, I believe the root veggie is that weird parasitic creature known as a anarcho-syndicalist…

    The only good anarcho-syndicalist is Dennis. Who is thirty-seven. And a make-believe character in a very silly movie.

  71. Darleen says:

    Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Case closed.

    You wish.

    You think the guys who bankrolled, drew up the plans, gathered the intel, and trained the ones that actually got killed were in the front ranks?

    Funny how you 9/11 Trooothers never see any conspiracies but AmerikkkanBoooshHaliburtonNeoconZionist ones.

  72. ushie says:

    Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Case closed.

    “Look, Sheriff, we got Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie VanHouten, and Tex Watson. Case closed.”

    “Look, Hitler’s dead. What do we have to gain from…oh,say, a trial? Case closed.”

    “Look, the kids are dead. Haven’t Diane Downs and Susan Smith suffered enough? Case closed.”

    “Look, the murder of the Princes in the Tower/Lord Darnley happened a long tiem ago. What does it matter who did it? Case closed.”

    “Look, President Lincoln/President Kennedy is dead. Case closed.”

  73. parsnip says:

    Not trying to blame Iran for this one guys?

    That’s a surrender of sorts.

    End of an era.

  74. Scott Crawford says:

    That’s a surrender of sorts.

    End of an era.

    Only in “your world,” esteemed member of the community-based reality.

  75. Patrick Chester says:

    Oops, alphie’s feeling a wee bit rattled if he’s pulling stuff like “you’re not blaming Iran like the caricature I’ve built in my tiny overheated head” out.

  76. Dash Rendar says:

    Well then, I thought it had reached some tectonic nadir of stupidity with it’s previous comments but then comes #73.

  77. parsnip says:

    It has been months since anyone on the right has advocated bombing Iran or accused them of arming terrorists, Scott.

    It’s kind of refreshing.

    Still, the thought of Hillary dressed in her burka sharing tea with Ahmadinejad must not be an easy one to accept.

  78. urthshu says:

    >>Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Case closed.

    Lenin, Mao and Marx are dead, but their legacy lives on

  79. Darleen says:

    don’t worry, parshit

    When the Israeli’s settle Ahmadawhackjob’s hash I’m sure you’ll be screaming anti-Semitic anti-Zionist twaddle.

  80. urthshu says:

    >>It has been months since anyone on the right has advocated bombing Iran or accused them of arming terrorists

    I’m waiting for Mr Changeypants to bomb Pockeestawn

  81. thorr says:

    #

    Comment by Ric Locke on 11/29 @ 1:08 pm #

    Scott: whether or not a given individual is in fact stupid and/or ignorant doesn’t affect how they feel about being called that. Example: thor.

    Regards,
    Ric

    The problem is you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to economics. I recognize that and call you out for it. A confrontation to your false assumptions results in my (or anyone) being called a Leftoid!

    Capitalists who know more than you of capitalism are thereby Leftists! How truly convenient. A great big cookie cutter ideological face-saving contrived reality is what I’d call it. It’s a run-on, but that’s still what I’d call it.

  82. thorr says:

    #

    Comment by Darleen on 11/29 @ 5:09 pm #

    Just a reminder that all the Mumbai terrorists are dead.

    Case closed.

    You wish.

    You think the guys who bankrolled, drew up the plans, gathered the intel, and trained the ones that actually got killed were in the front ranks?

    Funny how you 9/11 Trooothers never see any conspiracies but AmerikkkanBoooshHaliburtonNeoconZionist ones.

    Funny how just as many 9/11 Trooooothers are nutty r-wingers versus nutty left-wingers.

  83. happyfeet says:

    Cookie cutters come in kajillions of different shapes and sizes. This is cause of capitalism.

  84. Rob Crawford says:

    Oh, the lead ‘tard is changing his name again. Pick a name and stick with it, asshole.

    Why does the Left insist on glamourizing scum like Baader-Meinhof, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, et al., and giving respectability to filth like Ayers, Dohrn, Angela Davis?

    Because they feel like they haven’t done enough to bring about their Paradise on Earth. People who are committed enough to commit violence? Those are the true believers, the Ones so selfless as to sacrifice the lives of others in order to put themselves into power.

  85. Scott Crawford says:

    Still, the thought of Hillary dressed in her burka sharing tea with Ahmadinejad must not be an easy one to accept.

    Oh, it’s any easy thought to accept, parsnip; however, it’s a difficult thought to endorse if you believe that a woman is not by definition inferior to a man, or that a man is to be trusted to behave himself in public.

    Of course, it’s easy to endorse if you believe that a burka is just clothing…like a blouse.

  86. Rob Crawford says:

    That’s why Ayers and Dohrn are so central to the Democrat political circles in Chicago — they were willing to go all the way and arrange for the murder of others. Dohrn even celebrated the murder of people who had the misfortune to come across the path of Charles Manson, because those people were the wrong class.

    Of course, had Ayers fought in Vietnam rather than against the US, he’d be a pariah to the left. Unless he came back and accused US soldiers of acting like “Jenjizz Khan” — that would have netted him a run for the Presidency.

  87. Rob Crawford says:

    Still, the thought of Hillary dressed in her burka sharing tea with Ahmadinejad must not be an easy one to accept.

    Yeah, because I happen to think the SecState of a free nation shouldn’t even give the time of day to a douchebag figurehead of a third-world kleptocratic theocracy.

  88. SSG Ratso says:

    Tragic, yes, but nothing you can do about it.

    The hell you say.

    Anyone who helped them, financed them, hid them, paid them, or trained them can be hunted down and placed into a Terrorist Rehabilitation Program.

  89. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    weird parasitic creature known as a anarcho-syndicalist, who bleet “homes not jails” and “property is theft”

    Maybe we should go over to his house and take all of his shit.

    Especially his computer.

  90. thorr says:

    Comment by Rob Crawford on 11/29 @ 6:04 pm #

    That’s why Ayers and Dohrn are so central to the Democrat political circles in Chicago

    Same as Timothy McViegh is so central to the Republican political circles in Georgia.

  91. Jeffersonian says:

    Same as Timothy McViegh is so central to the Republican political circles in Georgia.

    Perceived mossback bombers get the big blue needle, Thor. Port-side terrorists get cushy sinecures and tenure.

  92. Jeffersonian says:

    Maybe we should go over to his house and take all of his shit.

    Especially his computer.

    Five’ll get you ten he’d call the cops to come shoot the would-be robber. He’d be just like Bushitler, calling in the stormtroopers.

  93. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    He’d be just like Bushitler, calling in the stormtroopers.

    Or like Ayers, calling the pig…er…Chicago’s Finest to protect him from the evil Fox News people.

  94. Scott Crawford says:

    Same as Timothy McViegh is so central to the Republican political circles in Georgia.

    1. Point.
    2. Laugh.

  95. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    1. Point.
    2. Laugh.

    3. Trollhammer.

  96. Scott Crawford says:

    SB&P – got a spare?

  97. parsnip says:

    The phony Ayres meme failed the Radical Right so badly last election it’s amazing they still trot it out.

    Unless that’s all they’ve got.

    Which is almost sad.

    Almost.

  98. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Scott: you can find it here.

  99. Jeffersonian says:

    The phony Ayres meme failed the Radical Right so badly last election it’s amazing they still trot it out.

    Ayers and his pals killed people and destroyed other people’s things, Al-phee. Ergo, they are just like George Bush. Right? Or do I have Trust Fund Billy all wrong?

  100. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Oh, you’ll have to install Greasemonkey first (an add-on for Firefox).

  101. Scott Crawford says:

    Phony? “Guilty as hell, free as a bird.”

    Meme?

    He’s your hero, no? How many Americans do you want to kill, parsnip?

  102. Jeffersonian says:

    “Case closed.”

    RR Patil, the deputy chief minister of Mumbai’s state government, said there was “proof” that the terrorists were on the phone to someone in Pakistan during the attack.

    “All phone calls made by them were tapped. They were being instructed from outside regarding their movement inside the hotel – whether to go upstairs or come down or make a move left or right,” he said.

  103. urthshu says:

    I’d say the ‘phony Ayres meme’ didn’t have enough time to work. Neither did the ‘phony Clinton has a bimbo problem’ meme – but look at how that worked out

  104. Dash Rendar says:

    No, actually alph’s view of Bill the Terrorman makes perfect sense. To him and his ilk, the personal is the political, ie all things are viewed through the lens of politics. Rethuglicans attempted to bring light to the relationship between the Dali Bama and Ayers? Well I’m for Ayers. Bush is waging war against terrorism? I’m against it. It is a precisely reactionary worldview wherein actions do not matter, only ideologies.

    Also, alphasnip, I noticed you have been here quite a bit, yet you offer no debate of concepts or ideas. Are you incapable of such debate, or have you realized your ideas tend to be laughable laid bare? Something else entirely? C’mon man.

  105. pppppimoverhere says:

    Greasemonkey, how fitting.

    Are you also running the spinelesscowadice add-on for Firefox?

  106. Scott Crawford says:

    Thanks, SB&P. Got it.

  107. Scott Crawford says:

    No need, ppppp…

    You’re it.

  108. Rob Crawford says:

    Also, alphasnip, I noticed you have been here quite a bit, yet you offer no debate of concepts or ideas. Are you incapable of such debate, or have you realized your ideas tend to be laughable laid bare? Something else entirely? C’mon man.

    The “alpha victim” exists simply to strike poses. To the extent it holds opinions, they align precisely with Democrat talking points. Since it’s never reasoned its way into an opinion, it’s incapable of offering support for its opinions. To its (slim) credit, it’s aware of this, so it refuses to actually try to defend an opinion.

  109. Rob Crawford says:

    I do have to wonder at the emotional state of people who can’t stand the idea they’re being ignored.

  110. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Note that the cowardly little boy is too scared to
    even stick to his own name.

    What a puss.

  111. thorrrr says:

    Ohnoes, looks like the “you got nothin’, man!” card has been played again.

  112. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Pussy.

  113. cranky-d says:

    Hammer-boi is crying for attention again I see. He cannot stick to one name, as requested by the owner of this site. What a pathetic little man.

  114. cranky-d says:

    Almost forgot: where’s my free gas, bitch? I want it now. Chop chop.

  115. Jeffersonian says:

    Gotta wait for The Messiah’s ascension, Crank. I’m only paying my mortgage up to January 20…he’ll O!ssume the payments from there.

  116. parsnip says:

    Obama has to cut off the right wing pork before he can buy you WalMart greeters gas, cranky.

    Give the man some time.

  117. Rob Crawford says:

    Oh, look, alphie realized that he could make “wesley” seem more realistic if he posted as “parsnip” after he started on the “wesley” identity!

    I guess there is the possibility of two completely dishonest, disingenuous, amoral twats coming around at once and “arguing” in precisely the same manner, but the probability seems slim, at best.

  118. Mark Turner says:

    The funding for Islamic terror comes primarily from a combination of criminal enterprise (organized crime), diversion from so-called “charity” organizations, individuals (some government-linked) who support “global jihad”. Pakistan is a hornet’s nest of such activity, and a well-known training center for terrorism. Dig deeper and you’ll find the Arab influence — which also has a spiritual dimension. Add to the religious dimension a sense of nationalism, a sense of bruised cultural ego which the Islamic world has suffered in recent decades (European colonialism of ancestral Islamic lands, the creation of Israel, endemic political corruption and inequities) and you have prime conditions for cultivating “global jihad”. Note that poverty and lack of education in themselves do NOT breed terror — you don’t see even a remotely similar scale and frequency attacks nor the level of organization of terror groups outside the Islamic world, and there is plenty of poverty in Latin America, non-Muslim Africa, non-Muslim Asia, and so forth…

  119. parsnip says:

    I guess there is the possibility of two completely dishonest, disingenuous, amoral twats coming around at once and “arguing” in precisely the same manner

    I do find you indistinguishable from your fellow Radical Right posters, Rob.

    But I think “disingenuous” is unfair.

    I think you guys are true believers.

  120. Darleen says:

    alpee/weaselly/parshit are the classic definition of a cynic

    knows the price of everything and the value of nothing

  121. Jeffersonian says:

    Obama has to cut off the right wing pork before he can buy you WalMart greeters gas, cranky.

    I’m all for cutting off right-wing pork, but not if it’s just going to get recycled into left-wing pork.

  122. Rusty says:

    #119
    Mediocre is nothing to be proud of, son.

  123. thor says:


    Comment by Darleen on 11/29 @ 7:56 pm #

    alpee/weaselly/parshit are the classic definition of a cynic

    knows the price of everything and the value of nothing

    Unlike you, who gleans her low-information from Fox News.

  124. parsnip says:

    but not if it’s just going to get recycled into left-wing pork.

    I think it is inevitable Jeffersonian.

  125. Jeffersonian says:

    I think it is inevitable Jeffersonian.

    At long last, we are in agreement. You don’t climb the greasy pole in Chicago without a lot of it getting on the right palms.

  126. Merovign says:

    Holy crap, Retread Troll has some serious, weapons-grade stupid going on tonight.

    I mean real, refined, stored-in-a-remote-facility-and-denied-to-exist stupid.

    I’m thinking “gnawed on lead-based paint from age 3 to 12,” what do y’all think?

    No point in asking it directly, it’s pretty clear it can’t be reasoned with.

  127. A_Nonny_Mouse says:

    “It would make a fascinating study to compare two numbers: the number of people killed every year by Muslims for the offense of not being Muslim, and the number of Muslims killed every year by non-Muslims for the offense of being Muslim.
    And, maybe, a third number: the number of Muslims killed every year by other Muslims for the offense of not being good enough Muslims, or the wrong type of Muslim.”
    ========================================
    We could track a fourth number, if you’re up for it: the number of (always unfulfilled!) grim predictions of “violent anti-Muslim backlash” by Islamists in the West who just cannot comprehend why we don’t retaliate for these Islamic terrorist attacks by randomly massacring Muslims-in-general. (After all, that’s what their delightful prophet Mohammed would have done…)

  128. Rusty says:

    #123
    see #122

  129. Pablo says:

    Scott @ #13,

    Pablo #9, if you’re referring to my comment, you and Ric both have my sincere apologies.

    No, I was referring to the same people Ric was referring to in #6. Sorry for any confusion.

  130. parsnip says:

    You wingers keep complaining about people dying, like it’s bad or something. Killing people is only wrong when wingers and American soldiers do it.

  131. parsnip says:

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    Thanks, whoever you are.

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