From API, who was the recipient, they claim, of an angry phone call from Michelle Obama with respect to African-Press International’s less than hagiographic treatment of The One:
When API told [Michelle Obama] that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,†and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband.
I shouldn’t have to point this out, but what the hell, I’m feeling kinda engaged this evening. First, IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE (hi, SEK!), Michelle Obama, at least as she’s presented here, seems to believe that it is the job of an African press to “support Africans and African-American view [sic]” — even in circumstances where the facts take their reporting in another direction — an idea that reduces the press to a propaganda arm of its affiliated identity group. In which case, it is nothing more than a PR firm or a vanity press, and so hardly worthy of being called journalism in any but the most pedestrian sense.
Second, note that the Michelle of this report has decided that “racists” are defined by their active non-support for her husband. To vote against her husband, or to push for the investigation into facts that would help shed light on Obama’s past, is an act of race hatred, and cannot be explained by a desire to fully vet the man presuming to lead the free world.
It is the job of an African press, Ms Obama seems to believe (and again, if this report itself is to be believed), to make sure that such obstacles to her husband’s winning the election be removed by said press, because they have a closer kinship to Africans and African-Americans than they do to facts. The former, after all, is essential and of the blood; while the latter is abstract and, like all truths, subjective and dependent upon how many people happen to believe them at any given time — the beauty of consensus interpretation.
Third — and as we learn later in the API piece — based on her portrayal in the report, Michelle believes that it is proper to ply the press with the promise of access (and its implied inverse) in exchange for positive stories about her husband:
Mrs Obama asked API to write a good story about her husband and that will earn API an invitation to the innoguration ceremony when, as she put it , her husband will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year.
On this last, one can hardly blame her. After all, CNN made a similar deal with Saddam Hussein, so why should her husband, who is no Saddam Hussein, not enjoy a similar arrangement?
At any rate, the API is promising the release of this phone call soon, at which time we’ll learn if any of Ms Obama’s remarks were taken out of context, or if they even happened at all. I would have waited until then to post this, but like I said, I was feeling kinda randy this evening, and watching the leftwing blogosphere go after a citizen for having the audacity to ask a question today has me inching ever closer to unleashing my own version of pragmatism into my political coverage.
At any rate, true or no, I’m quite certain that I don’t wish to live in Michelle Obama’s America — even if I happen to get deluged by that big wealth spreader as it winterizes the national economic lawn.
****
update: Sadly, No! suggests that the press organization in question doesn’t exist. In which case, oops!
I admit to knowing nothing about the organization, but the grammar on the site is pretty atrocious. Not that that means anything. But if no tape exists and this is all a put on, apologies to the Obama family, whom I have plenty of legitimate reasons for distrusting.
Sure hope Michelle doesn’t lose her job or good name over my mistake. Fresh fruit isn’t easy to come by these days, after all.
(h/t sashal and urthshu)
Um. There’s some doubt this happened at all. I think newsbusters had it and Treacher mentioned it…
With Michelle in the White House, I fear for my pie.
My slice is already thin–any further redistribution will likely result in a narrow smoosh across my plate.
CRUSTIST!!!!!
My question is, how long until SEK puts up a post implying that you compared Barack Hussein to Saddam Hussein?
RACIST!1!11!!
Eh, Jeff , here is the funny story
This post is about the political lynching of Franklin Raines err… Michele Obama.
I’m just pissed off at OFHEO, because if it wasn’t for you, I don’t think we’d be here in the first place. There’s been nothing that indicated that’s wrong with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac has come up on its own. The question that then comes up is the competence that your agency has with reference to deciding and regulating these GSEs.
What is interesting urthshu is that it sounds plausible. Outrageous as it is, it is in character.
I don’t need a API phone call to know that Michelle Obama thinks I’m a racist if I don’t vote for Barack.
That has been, after all, the mantra of his supporters for about 9 months now.
Right, and we all know how respectful the right-wing blogosphere can be.
You know what else was plausible? The Killian documents.
I am not the rightwing blogosphere, first off; and second, I’ve come to decide that being respectful is a sucker’s game.
It is hardly if ever reciprocated. We’re all just here to fling shit and talk tartly. And I bet I can be good at that.
Name your entitlement expansion threshold then, AJB. Otherwise enough with all the appearances-centrism. Think, man.
Wikiland not so good for political thingers, AJB.
Or better, what should be The Salary (yes caps) for plumbers.
Nah, not buying it unless I get more proof – meaning phone records, audio, and confirmation at this end.
>>We’re all just here to fling shit and talk tartly. And I bet I can be good at that.
Not until you start posting SSNs, slacker.
“What is interesting urthshu is that it sounds plausible. ”
Yes. It is interesting that folks around here find this plausible. In character.
I really think meya is a robot.
Awww, meya, you ran away from the last thread. Guess you had to, with an indefensible position and all.
Michelle Bama is also a cold hearted bitch. Cold. Hearted. Bitch. who has no business as first lady of this nation. Thatisall. Continue.
Yes. Intelligent folk would never believe Michelle Obama capable of seeing racism in her husband’s political opponents, or of adopting an identity politics political paradigm.
Why, the very suggestion is PREPOSTEROUS!
At any rate, the post has been updated to acknowledge what appears to be well-founded skepticism. But fuck it. If the Atlantic can publish on Trig Palin’s “dubious” paternity, I think PW — home of talking ghosts and randy sea monkey kings — can link a bit he picked up from one of his commenters.
O!
Michelle O’s a bitch, she’s a big fat bitch,
She’s the biggest bitch in the whole wide world,
She’s a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bitch,
She’s a bitch to all the boys and girls!
Hey guys, why not wire some money to the african press wordpress site? And your account numbers?
Yes. It is interesting that folks around here find this plausible. In character.
meya, you know what else sounds plausible to AJB?
The Killian documents.
I bet you thought so too.
o man I gotta share a hat tip with sashal. fk I gotta go get some kwell now
Comment by meya on 10/16 @ 7:09 pm
Nah, we’ll just wait for you and your Kos ilk to hack or e-mails and publish our SSNs and do that whole fraud bit for us.
Hmmmmmm…
Assuming that this is true, and I hope it is, then by Michelle’s own logic she, and all other women voting for O! over Hillz-especially white women, have double-crossed their own identity group…
Ain’t identity politics just wonderful! I wonder where Joe the persecuted plumber stands, being of ethnic extraction and all, in the hierarchy of the identity politics card deck…
Blue collar, Polish name, man! and RethugliKKKan!. He’s exxed!
In my fantasy world, the MSM would be trying to look into O!s past with at least as much zeal as they did Joe’s. And BTW, how did they get his Social Security number and record of driving violations…? Sound like dere’s an Obamite in the state woodpile, workin’ harder than usual, in Ohio. There has got to be some gross invasion of privacy there…
Same old Clinton tactics taken to a new level; if you can’t stand the message, then destroy the messenger…
Go get ’em Jeff G…
O, O!?, this is just too rich and I’m wading in all the freshly minted ironies. Datamining for terrorists is no good cuz all that’s just wingnut malaria dreams, but actual violations of privacy and destroying a man’s livelihood a ok in the Dali Bama’s socialist paradise.
did you guys see McCain speak at charity event?
fucking hilarious. Excellent humor…
Wow, you have to be a complete idiot to have believed that was true. You should probably finish high school before you return to this blog.
I admit to knowing nothing about the organization, but the grammar on the site is pretty atrocious.
Cold these be the guys who keep emailing me about their uncle from Nigeria and my chance to pick up a quick $5 mil?
There is no ‘there’ there.
Wow, you have to be a complete idiot to have believed that was true. You should probably finish high school before you return to this blog.
Your work is done here zimzo. Godspeed my friend…………Godspeed
REAL MATURE ZIMZO’S PENIS!
Eh. I would have never thought that a guy connected to Rezko, Wright, Ayers, ACORN, and a Chicago Socialist Party could win a major party nomination, but I’m forced to believe that’s true.
Meaning that I’ve set the parameters of my plausibility meter to the “wide” setting.
wow, the attack of 7-foot zimzos.
jeff, you probably got linked in some Nigerian site, or worse….
You can all consider yourselves denounced. Except for meya and zimzo, who are, like, doublepluscool or something.
connected to Rezko, Wright, Ayers, ACORN, and a Chicago Socialist Party could win a major party nomination
this is mostly the fantasies, casual connections, not true friendship or sharing ideas. elephant made out of the fly.
But that’s what blogs are for. to whip up hysterics, paranoia, etc….
But that’s what blogs are for. to whip up hysterics, paranoia,
Ahh, your perspective explains a lot about you sashal.
Sashal, do you think the bank customer kissing the floor during a robbery should be paranoid?
it’s just a house. not like he calls it home or anything…
now, now, I’m sure she’s concerned about everyone’s safety at the gas station.
So why bring it up? Yet another sauerkraut faced righty rant.
Demonstrable fact as paranoia. That’s like, what? — reverse paranoia paranoia?
1) connected to Rezko, who helped him with a real estate venture: yes or no?
2) 20-years in the TUCC church of Rev Wright, his “spiritual adviser”: yes or no?
3) more than passing acquaintance with Ayers, including having his political career launched in Ayers’ home, and working with him on several occasions: yes or no?
4) Connected to ACORN in a litany of instances: yes or no?
5) Endorsed by the New Party; possible member of New Party; connected to DSA: yes or no?
Mentioning of these facts = “whipping up hysterics and paranoia.” Because really, who could possibly care about such connections? Obama is only running for President. Give it a rest, you doubting thomases!
Comment by sashal on 10/16 @ 7:57 pm
I think this comment is why Obama is such a nefarious influence. Given the correct political resume, 1/3 of this country would probably excuse or overlook pedophilia.
OMYgod, I just realized this is one of those soccer posts.
Yeah. I was feeling all sauerkraut-faced today. It was that movement to publish this Joe guy’s name and SSN on the net, then get him fired.
It’s only going to get more sauerkrauty, cynn. Prepare yourself.
Well, and to ask repeatedly that you and the other moonbat inco’s in attendance explain either your intellectual basis or the mountain of incriminating evidence heaped up all over your Party, sure.
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Jeff, if there were anything beyond a blind man’s lap dance, I can’t help with the Utube hell. As to witlessly sliming Obama, I have issues.
Someone should point out that there’s no such thing as Sadly, No! I guess I’ll do that.
That much has long been obvious, cynn.
1. so he helped him, how is that criminal?
did he tell Obama “hey I am a crook, let me help you” Did Obama knew about his criminal activities? Or we just guessing whatever we want to guess. This way you and me may had questionable friends as well
2. there was only one documented episode of questionable rhetoric from the pastor(Obama denounced) when Obama actually did not attend(proven ) at the time.
3. no, no more, just passing, just like other guys republicans who were on the board established by republican and who is McCain donor, so nothing there. BTW Obama’s carrier was launched from the Hotel( so it is falsehood about Ayers house) Ayers eventually had a coffee for him, as many other in the neighborhood.
At the time Obama knew Ayers , he was professor, USA citizen and did not organize underground communistic terrorist movement which included Obama .
Zero. The story is nothing…
4 well he once was a layer, and represented ACORN.
He did not tell them to register Micki Mouse, is he that stupid?
As to witlessly sliming Obama, I have issues.
Jesus God at this point you want more witty sliming of the baracky? You just take take take is what you do. He’s a dirty redistributionist socialist what hates plumbers and you think hey what we need is that guy from Friends to give him the what-for. Well, no. That part’s over. Perpetual grad student grubby marxist loser is all you get.
Sure are a mouthy bunch, what with bein’ non-existant an’ all…
5 same as the story about whitey tapes and API talk to M.Obama.
Probably even from the same source
sashal, read your #37 again and put the goalposts down.
btw, I am sorry , my spell checkers gone bonkers.
Comp , asshole, behaves as a total asshole
1. When you get the kind of deal he got, you ask questions. Or investigate the deal. Otherwise your judgment gets called into question.
2. Are you serious? Did you eat a pufferfish liver or something?
3. Pufferfish it is, then.
4. Do you ever read links? Ever? Or do you think knowledge is transferred through magic beams, or the filling in Oreos?
5. Pufferfish have toxic qualities, you know.
But don’t worry. I have the antidote.
it’s not criminal, but Obama did say:
I don’t want culturey orifices I just want free enterprise and for May first to not have any particular significance and for Israel to just sort of keep on doing its thing and I want us to drill energies like a normal country.
ha ha, you’d think so. but then I remembered that one time we were linking direct quotes from Obama and shashal just knew that wasn’t what he meant. because Obama is smart and beautiful.
Jeff: You are one of the smartest darts out there. Regain this shit; so what if the rethugs lose. Obama spooks me with his hoodoo guru booyah inexplicable policy. McCain mutters and twitches too much. It’s like homecoming, but at Taco Bell.
Regain which shit, cynn?
I’m disillusioned with humanity. And it’s going to fucking pay for being such a cocktease all these years.
1. and it was investigated. nothing, gurnisht, nichego, nada
2. that is the worst thing Obama can be accused of-not to denounce pastor years ago. That’s all. He is not black nationalist , itching to put all the whites in slavery
3 seriously , guys, thousands people, staunched republicans worked and knew and has been real friends with Ayers, much more then Obama. There is nothing there, relax,
McCAin have much more questionable connection and friendship to Liddy true fucking criminal and terrorist. So let’ snot start guilt by association crap again./
4 Obama did not urged or forced the registration of Micky Mouse.
The employees , who were doing this were caught and reported by…….tatatatatata!!!!!1-A C O R N management.
So again, nothing there. No fraudulent connection to Obama’s campaign
fuck the spell checker..
Comment by thor on 10/16 @ 8:38 pm #
Jeff, the trolls are shitting on your rug again.
BAD TROLL, BAD!
Comment by cynn on 10/16 @ 8:43 pm #
you’d mumble and twitch too if you’d been tourtured by commie pros for 5 1/2 years.
They teach “cut-outs 101” at Daley U, yannow…
1. See Maggie’s quote, above. It’s about judgment. As I said. And as Obama admitted
2. You haven’t a fucking clue about the kind of stuff he was into, intellectually speaking, do you, sashal?
3. I’d have the same problem with those “staunched Republicans.” Which is why that particular answer does nothing to sway me.
4. Pufferfish skin again?
sure, what’s close to a millions dollars among friends? what exactly are GOTV efforts? hmmmmmm?
Off to lift. Daddy needs to ready himself to make a living.
THUNDERDOME DON’T SCARE ME!
“No fraudulent connection to Obama’s campaign”
The kindest thing I can say is that you’re a naif.
sashal, please do us a kind favor and STFU. We get it. We’ve heard it. You don’t need to repeat it.
O!
Jeff, believe it or not I am also fucked by my buds. The democrats have been not only stupid but useless; I can forgive the first but not the latter. I am callous here, but I only see Obama’s headlong ambition, and not the unified support and cohesive policy that I might otherwise expect.
I don’t see unity or cooperation among the demos because they’re the same bunch of hyenas the repubs are. I really don’t know what to predict.
What’s’a matter, man, “get on your bad motor scooter and ride” as Sammy Haggar says. Live up to what you’re claimin’, and go home, wayward son. If this is not your America anymore, get out while the gettin’s good, mange. “A Country Boy Can Survive.”
sorry, Pablo.
I was talking to jeff, answering his questions.
you have anything against it.?
Fuck Red Sox…..
oh, we gots us another “public/private conversation” tool. Carin, should we add him to the discussion? I vote “yes” email me. ;D
Papi just found his bat, sashal. And Yogi Berra just scratched an itch.
What Jeff said.
Funny, but I don’t remember any of them running for President on the basis of their vaunted judgment.
J.D. Drew gots a bat too. One run game in the eighth, after 6 unanswered runs.
HOPE!!!!
Oh, wait. The Red Sox are racist. Don’t nobody tell Coco Crisp, k? ‘Cuz he just tied it up.
so, you haven’t seen the next post yet, have you?
oh, ha ha, thanks for playing. I’ll do believe I will try the veal!
Save your knob slobber, P-Blower, or, rather, tell us about that stuff. You so smart.
Barack Obama was whelpin’ for the poor on the Southside of Chicago! Ewwoool! Awingsky Ewwooool! AWORN Ewwoool!
whelpin’ for the poor? I don’t get that.
Every time a loser cries a baby sheep dies.
someone has been wronged
Well, trollbot, maybe someone will figure out who you are and post all your private information on the web.
I mean, according to you, saying anything bad about a candidate, or even asking him a question, justifies it, right?
Lovely world you’re making there.
And “owing taxes” is not the same thing as “cheating on taxes”, trollbot.
Hint: if you wind up owing taxes when you were trying to cheat on them, you’re doing it wrong.
what are you crying about, thor?
mmmmm, kabob.
wow, I guess I should say “fuck Red Sox” more often.
What glasnost doesn’t realize is that this petty thuggery is going to cost Barky the election.
Barky knows it, you betcha.
Glasnost you smug putz,
The nature of questioner doesn’t change the answer to the question. That guy Joe said he was planning to buy the business and that it would probably make more than 250k/year.
O! has made a lot of claims that are patently false WRT his past history, bith legislative and general. Does this render every answer he’s given to every question invalid? Does his sweetheart real estate dealings with Tony Rezko effect all of his pronouncements and plans regarding the housing bubble collapse? Does his ineffective executorship at CAC render any pronouncements he has made with respect to education null and void? I could go on, but I think you get my point…
The fact remains that he asked O! why would he be forced to pay more taxes if he achieved his goal of buying the business and made more than 250KI/yr. And the incontrovertable fact remains that part of O!s answer was, “I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody…
And, there is absolutely no reason why a fellow should lose his job and have his life destroyed simply because he asked O! a question that O! didn’t like his own answer to! For 8 years we have had to listen to the wailing about the fascism of BusHitler; but this move by O!s blogosphere and MSM brownshirts was more insidious than anything that Boooooooosh! has ever done…
glasnost?
Never heard of him/her.
No, I’d just as soon work to make Michelle uncomfortable in MY America. Then she can take some of the Fannie money and buy herself a nice villa in Venezuela.
“that this petty thuggery is going to cost Barky the election.”
This could be what will get the public to put on the Roddy Piper sunglasses and see the real Obama and company.
“Fannie money”? WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING? RACISEXIST!!!
[…] Notable here is the fact that Obama’s appeal to the rural American seems, somehow, to outstrip that of Sarah Palin, an actual rural American– indeed, one who is constantly under assault precisely because she is a largely rural soldier in the so-called “cultural wars”. Why is this? How has Obama managed to succeed in portraying himself as a “bridge builder”– even a small-government, fiscally conservative Democrat? And why does Joe illustrate so obviously the chinks in Obama’s narrative armor? […]
so how’s the original Larry Johnson ‘whitey’ tape working out for you guys? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me again (and again), I must be a right wing-nut!
Not good jax. In fact it’s working out so not good, what with all the ACORN stuff, it’s been completely dropped.
Well, until you brought it up of course. Could your mention of it be, to quote a well-known modern-day Jesus figure,”nothing more than a distraction”?
You know a distraction from important issues like dead people and children voting? Who will speak for the dead and the cartooned if this voter suppression disguised as election “rules” enforcement is allowed to go unchecked?
Who? WHO!!!
hoot?
o how’s the original Larry Johnson ‘whitey’ tape working out for you guys? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me again (and again), I must be a right wing-nut!
Jax seems a tad confused. Sorry, friend, this isn’t one of those PUMA sites you’ve heard about…
Glasnost, I think your comment was prolly deleted because you’re fucking stupid. Just eyeballing here.
Tax criminal? Honestly. You’re really fucking stupid.
I know people (democrats) who haven’t filed their taxes in TEN YEARS.
Barack was in gay orgies?
gross
But enough about Al Franken…
I bet if Barack didnt’ have a license to put on those gay orgies, the Cocksucker’s Union would be all over his garbage looking for tax liens.
With “eventually” defined in a way that includes the heat-death of the universe.
What is interesting urthshu is that it sounds plausible. Outrageous as it is, it is in character.
I have never gotten that impression about her. She has always appeared to be so nice and gracious (perhaps that is because I am a shrill bitch and she seems like Princess Grace in comparison to me). Now if you change “African” to “Alaskan” and change “API” to “Alaska State Police” and up the call from 1 to 35 – then well…maybe it might be vaguely resemble the behavior of someone…hmmm…I can’t remember…
Hee hee.
Good manners can replace morals. It may be years before anyone knows if what you are doing is right. But if what you are doing is nice, it will be immediately evident. ~P.J. O’Rourke
I know people (democrats) who haven’t filed their taxes in TEN YEARS.
Sweats and bites nails nervously.
Buck up glasnost. Certainly you have better things to do than chide us on our political civility? Don’t you have a plumber’s social security number to run down? Also, I think those DNA tests on Trig should be in any day now.
I know the game is to play dirty, all the while accusing conservatives of doing so (100% of the time!), but we’ve figured it out. Deal.
Your secret is safe with us, Lisa.
Shorter glasnost: YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTHINESS!!!
I’m guessing that Jeff giggled when deleting your comment. I like the new Jeff.
at is so persecutory about about having tax criminals
Evidence that Joe has been charged with a crime?
Evidence that Joe has “refused” to pay his taxes, rather than, oh, I don’t know, not being able to AFFORD to pay them?
Are you familiar with the term “libel”, glasnost?
Better look it up before you go any further down that road.
Hee hee.
Hee hee, indeed.
Tell us, Lisa, what would be Michell Obama’s most likely reaction if an Illinois state bull tased one of her kids?
Take your time.
Those Nigerians sure do hate those Kenyans…
Racists
Fixed that for you.
(Damn plumbers, getting all uppity.)
Oh, and Lisa?
When you finish with Michelle, perhaps you’d care to speculate on the reaction of the “black community”* to an Illinois state bull tasing one of Michelle’s kids.
*By “black community” I mean Jackson, Sharpton, et al. — I used the scare quotes because I don’t think those guys represent the real black community.
Evidence that Joe has been charged with a crime?
Evidence that Joe has “refused†to pay his taxes, rather than, oh, I don’t know, not being able to AFFORD to pay them?
We’re waiting, glasnost.
If you have such evidence, you’d better provide it.
‘Cause something tells me that Joe is going to have access to as many free lawyers as he wants.
I mean, as long as we’re going down the road of “civility” here.
Or was it the asking of exactly what is so persecutory about about having tax criminals – people who illegally refuse to pay taxes –
Perhaps it was just a “mistake” … like Rangel!
Maybe he can get Charlie Rangel’s tax wizards to help out, huh?
*By “black community†I mean Jackson, Sharpton, et al.  I used the scare quotes because I don’t think those guys represent the real black community.
Yeah well they don’t represent any of the “black community” so it is really about time that you put that term out to pasture when referring to Sharpton or Jackson. Perhaps “What do you think those two dummies would think about some cop tasing Michelle Obama’s kids?” would be a better way to rephrase that. In answer to your question: I think they would flip their wigs. But I think a whole lot of people in America would be flipping their wigs. Now, I am in no way condoning tasing of anyone. But wasn’t the guy’s alleged tasing of his son an allegation that was part of a host of pretty vicious allegations flying back and forth during a very nasty divorce? Now, if my sister was married to some asshole who I strongly believed was doing cruel and horrible things to my niece or nephew, I would have probably done the same thing (I might have even glued antlers on his head and tied him to a bush during moose season).
glasnost, Oh the irony of a name.
Next up “perestroika”, and then the wall falls.
(I might have even glued antlers on his head and tied him to a bush during moose season).
Is that dangerous?
“But wasn’t the guy’s alleged tasing of his son an allegation “
Not “alleged”, admitted.
Sorry Lisa, I thought you wrote “tied him to my bush during moose season”
But wasn’t the guy’s alleged tasing of his son an allegation
No. He admitted doing it.
But I think a whole lot of people in America would be flipping their wigs.
I certainly would. You don’t tase ten year old kids. Not acceptable. If you do that kind of thing, you should be fired from your cop job, because you clearly aren’t psychologically or intellectually equipped for the job.
Are we in agreement here?
Now, if my sister was married to some asshole who I strongly believed was doing cruel and horrible things to my niece or nephew, I would have probably done the same thing
So why are you beating Palin up for it?
Damn geoffb. I hadn’t heard that – I heard there was a nasty divorce and a lot of acrimony – but not documented abuse. Though I know it is wrong to misuse your office to fuck people up (even if they deserve it), I doubt I would have acted differently. I really love my family and I would have been pissed. I would have fired everyone until I found someone who would get rid of his ass (that is after I hired Tavon and Ray-Ray to beat the shit out of him).
I hadn’t heard that
Next question: why do you suppose you hadn’t heard that?
The Wooten case has been all over the media (generally with headlines like “Palin abused power”), but somehow you hadn’t heard that Wooten admitted the tasing.
But you, an intelligent person who pays more attention to politics than most people do, haven’t heard a peep about it.
Interesting, don’t you think?
(This isn’t a criticism of you, by the way — I want to make that clear)
But you, an intelligent person who pays more attention to politics than most people do, haven’t heard a peep about it.
Rewrite:
An intelligent person such as yourself, one who pays more attention to politics than most people do, hasn’t heard a peep about it.
Sorry, I’m still on my first cup of tea.
Oh Spies, how am I “beating her up” for it? If we can speak freely about Michelle Obama’s alleged angry-black-bitchness and joke around about some bogus phone calls – why not Palin? She is a big girl. And while I am sympathetic to her anger at her shitbag brother-in-law, she was still out of line. Just because I would have done the same thing does not mean that I would not expect to have an ethics committee up my ass.
Who did that?
Out of line for what?
Just because I would have done the same thing does not mean that I would not expect to have an ethics committee up my ass.
Would you expect to have the full circumstances of the situation fairly and accurately reported in the media?
Out of line for what?
For firing the guy who would not fire her shitbag brother-in-law.
But wasn’t the guy’s alleged tasing of his son an allegation that was part of a host of pretty vicious allegations flying back and forth during a very nasty divorce?
As geoffb noted, not alleged, admitted. And the rest of those “allegations” were actually findings that came out of the official investigation into his conduct.
You’re trying to do the whole equivalence thing here between the Palins trying to get that douchebag trooper taken off the force and the trooper in question’s actions.
Keep it up and you’re going to make happyfeet exasperated.
Forgive us Lisa, for being a bit defensive. How many mag covers will Michelle Bama be on with fawning Jackie-O comparisons inside, nary a mention of her lizard rhetoric, whereas Palin gets the “common folk, and thats a problem donchaknow” treatment by Newsweek et al.
“For firing the guy who would not fire her shitbag brother-in-law.”
For firing a guy who would not do his job in firing a reprehensible douchebag? C’mon you can do better than that.
But I bet you wanted Rumsfled fired b/c he kept in the original slew of generals who were unresponsive to the needed tactics on the ground in Iraq, right?
Would you expect to have the full circumstances of the situation fairly and accurately reported in the media?
Yes. I would hope for it, but not expect it. The headline: Wrathful Lady MacBeth of the Alaskan Tundra would, naturally, sell so much better than Sister Concerned About a Violent and Abusive Man Ill-Suited for the Uniform.
Shrill and vengeful fits women of power so much better than concerned and loving (maybe using not-so-good judgement due to concern for her loved ones). I bet Hillary is somewhere saying: Welcome to my world, Sarah dear.
No I wanted Rumsfeld fired because he was a dunce.
I bet Sarah has yet to “come across” the FBI files on her Democrat opponents like Hilldawg and Bill did.
Really? That’s why she fired him?
Here I thought it was because he wasn’t following her policies.
“No I wanted Rumsfeld fired because he was a dunce.”
Precisely. And the man who wouldn’t fire taserdude? Upstanding cop, I bet.
As geoffb noted, not alleged, admitted. And the rest of those “allegations†were actually findings that came out of the official investigation into his conduct.
You’re trying to do the whole equivalence thing here between the Palins trying to get that douchebag trooper taken off the force and the trooper in question’s actions.
What?
I tend to think that people that taze their children should not hold positions where they get to enforce the laws on others. But, I am a wingnut.
ALL YOUR CHILD TAZERS ARE BELONG TO BARACKY !!!!!!!
Where “dunce” == “I didn’t agree with him”.
Seriously, Lisa, loose the lefty “disagreeing with me means you’re stupid” shtick.
Oh, and hello, Sugartits.
Forgive Dash, he evidently didn’t hear the answers Sister Palin gave to some basic questions, which most in the discerning public concluded were equivalent to the answers of an uneducated, pregnant 16-year-old girl’s.
“A national disgrace.” Christopher Hitchens
We can now strike “intelligent” from your list of attributes. Unless you want to admit that it’s possible to be wrong without being stupid.
Just dumb enough to buy a bridge to no-where in Alaska, aren’t’cha, Hick.
Evidence that Joe has been charged with a crime?
Evidence that Joe has “refused†to pay his taxes, rather than, oh, I don’t know, not being able to AFFORD to pay them?
Still waiting, glasnost.
Perhaps Martin Nesbitt, the treasurer of Obama’s campaign will also be interested in your theory that having a tax lien makes you a “criminal”.
Dash now you are just babbling. Mr. Apple, meet Mr. Orange.
Maybe a more accurate comparison would be the calls by us liberals for the firing of Darryl Gates because he was the police chief who refused to throw his ass-beating officers under the bus. I would have to say that this case is more in line with that. Obviously, a man who admits to tasing his own kids has no business on the force. The fact that he was not brought up on charges right then and there says there is something deeply wrong with the Alaska State Police. The governor should not have even had to ask that he be fired. He should have been in jail and at the very least on admin leave with no pay while they investigated the whole thing.
Interesting. This is not at all how this has been reported – nor has anyone mentioned possible corruption and abusive cops being protected in the ranks of the Alaska State Police – even in the summary of the investigation into the matter.
BTW, who made up this “commission” that was investigating the guy’s firing?
Please ignore the talking pile of shit. Thatisall.
“Obviously, a man who admits to tasing his own kids has no business on the force.”
So. What’s. The. Fucking. Problem. I’m not terribly familiar with the Alaska State Police, so it seems from my wingnut perspective that she cut through whatever corruption there was that kept taserdude in place.
JOE MUST BE FUCKING DESTROYED FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THAT IS PURE AND HOLY YOU FUCKING WINGNUTS PLANTED A TAX CHEAT AND A LIAR TO TRY TO TRIP UP THE MESSIAH BUT WE ARE TOO SMART FOR YOU AND WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SWIFT BOAT THAT ONE AND KEEP HIM FROM HIS JUST AND PROPER ASCENSION INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.
We can now strike “intelligent†from your list of attributes. Unless you want to admit that it’s possible to be wrong without being stupid.
Nice Mark A. Flacey. You’re a real peach aren’t you. The folks here at PW are amazingly capable of discussing politics (even with a reactionary socialist such as myself) without going from zero to Fuck You in 60 seconds. You might want to watch and learn, Marky Mark.
Obviously, a man who admits to tasing his own kids
Technically his stepson, not that that changes the morality of the situation.
BTW, who made up this “commission†that was investigating the guy’s firing?
Excellent question.
Google Hollis French.
At least she’s gone National, thor. You’ve just managed PW level disgrace. Spectacular disgrace, admittedly.
Dash I think the problem is that this story (and the conclusion of the subsequent “investigation” into it) painted her as some kind of asshole who fired someone who would not play ball.
You don’t get to be a reactionary no mores if Baracky wins Lisa. The establishment will be all rainbows and sugartits and I will be a reactionary. I’m not sure what that means yet but I think it involves shopping at Old Navy.
Thanks Spies – I am really curious about this. I feel kind of embarassed because I don’t consider myself to be a wild-eyed KosKid or a low-information citizen. But I am really surprised at how different this whole story is from what I have read so far – I mean it is completely a 180 from the accepted narrative and the so-called conclusions of the investigation.
I am off to lunch. I will chat with you later, folks.
Old Navy is where I draw the freakin line.
thor and Baracky are fortunate that Michael Vick is behind bars. thor would not have enough time for his Baracky love spunk baths if he had a mouthful of Vick.
LMAO @ happy: And Anthropologie (and you MUST have pet indie bands that only four other people have heard of).
See you later.
I just hope we don’t all wind up shopping at Old Salvation Army before 2012.
Again, the question is what ‘ball game’ are they playing? Eliminating the corrupt elements? Is this really the avenue you want to pursue against Palin?
“A national disgrace.†Christopher Hitchens
It’s really sad when a seminal Conservative such as Hitchens is criticizing the VP on the ticket.
Ohnoes. Thor tells me I’m a pussy. Well then I’ll be in my yurt effing myself all afternoon.
But, speaking of actual conservative criticism of the ticket, I enjoyed this essay which I found via Treacher.
Did I get banned or something?
Trying to post a link and it keeps spitting out my comment. F it wasn’t that important anyway.
Yeah. Funny how that happens, isn’t it?
It does that sometimes, Mr. Pink.
Sometimes using tinyurl.com to modify the link helps.
Thanks Spies. It was just a link to gateway which has a youtube “Kill Joe the Plumber” video posted by some leftwing wacko. The quickness with which these people can generate group hatred is amazing. This is not even a political candidate, he is just a normal guy wtf.
This is not even a political candidate, he is just a normal guy wtf.
To them he’s a heretic and blasphemer, Mr. Pink.
And they appear to be getting faster.
During the debate liveblog, I wrote about Obama’s statement — “…The history in Colombia right now is that labor leaders have been targeted for assassination on a fairly consistent basis and there have not been prosecutions.” — this:
So today, theWSJ publishes “Obama Makes It Up” in which we find this:
Bottom line, when Obama opens his mouth, he’s probably lying to you.
fact check:
for honest people
If you return here Lisa here are some links and quotes about the “Troopergate”.
The Alaska Daily News on the Wooten Investigation.
A quote,
And quotes from an piece by Bill Dyer at Townhall.com
Well the original formatting didn’t come through the blockquotes. Next time I’ll have to remember to use the “source” page to quote from.
all of those lecture on civility from glasnost, and yet I can’t seem to find them anywhere!
Mark: Is Rumsfeld your uncle or something? If he is then I am sorry to offend your family member.
Look, there are politicians and public figures that I like very much – but I am really not interested in freaking out because someone thinks the public figure I happen to like is a dunce. I really like Jimmy Carter. I would be in a constant state of meltdown if I were worried about people calling him an idiot.
What do you like best about him? His anti-semitism, anti-Americanism, or his general affection for totalitarian dictatorships?
Yeah but I remember quite a few “normal guys” getting flamed for inserting themselves into some political debate. Joe the Plumber ain’t the first nor will he be the last. All people do when some regular person opines on an issue that resonates is declare the person a political hack/plant and then proceed to rip them a new asshole.
Price of doing business these days.
I like that he is intelligent and thoughtful and quite a great humanitarian. I also like that those qualities remain untarnished by those ridiculous charges of anti-semitism and anti-Americanism.
I got a chance to meet and talk to him while I was working on a house for Habitat for Humanity in Atlanta. He is a great American.
(Giggles at the collective eye-rolling and derisive laughter from the PW community at my last post).
Lisa @ 143
What?
Never mind. You made it clear @ 126 and subsequent posts that you didn’t have the complete (and factual) story.
Carry on.
Yeah, those charges are “ridiculous” so long as you ignore what he says, what he does, and how he acts.
Lisa said, “He is a great American.”
Noes.Noes. What he is , is a really great carpenter who confuses himself with the really, really great carpenter.
Dave I actually told my girlfriends that I went to lunch with about the crazyfreak brother-in-law. None of us could deny that we would have had to do SOMETHING to keep that guy from carrying a badge and a gun. We are all flaming libs and not huge fans of Governor Palin, but not one of us said “Oh bullshit she was just being a bitch!” because this makes the whole thing make more sense. I could never get with the “She is a vengeful harpy” thing because the boys trot that shit out for every goddamned female candidate that steps up to the podium. I am glad to know this one is bullshit too.
What he is , is a really great carpenter
Not according to some carpenters I know who’ve seen video of his pathetic attempt to pound nails for HfH. Much derision ensued.
Lisa, thanks for sharing that with your girlfriends.
Yes, what SBP said.
Jimmy Carter is a great American like Charles Barkley is a great golfer. It’s in the eye of the beholder.
Posting about something that’s a complete fake does so much for your image. (Confirms it, that is.)
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