Short of McCain’s stopping in mid debate to look Obama directly in the eye and inform him that “the handsome suit I’m wearing this evening is made from the skin of Mark Rudd, and my tie is the tongue of Bernadine Dohrne,” I don’t think it much matters — though I suppose there’s always the chance Obama might slip up and answer a question about taxes with, “bitches best have my money!”
At least were there a conservative on the panel we might get an inadvertant “you can’t be fucking serious…” But alas, conservatism/classical liberalism has become to the GOP the equivalent of forgetting to wear your flag pin during a Sean Hannity interview.
Commence your despair, wingnuts! THE END IS NEAR!
****
Jeff’s thoughts: Obama wins by virtue of not being forcibly escorted from the stage in handcuffs and leg irons.
– Which means that, sadly, his stay at the Hanoi Hilton wasn’t to be the last time John McCain will be beaten by a communist.
Comment by mojo on 10/15 @ 5:58 pm #
Tuning up for that secret police gig? Oh, HELL yes…
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 6:00 pm #
SECOND !
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 6:00 pm #
I denounce myself.
Comment by Techie on 10/15 @ 6:01 pm #
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/15 @ 6:02 pm #
Jeff, if you haven’t seen it, this is fascinating:
http://www.zombietime.com/lefts_big_blunder/
There’s a h.t. there somewhere……
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:03 pm #
I hear Nero is fiddling at the Forum tonight.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 6:05 pm #
If McCain says Ayers or Acorn or Fannie Mae I’ll just shit myself.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 6:12 pm #
Despair? Nah I save that for the losers that sit around waiting for the government to give them a handout or to provide any solution to a real world problem. I think I will just cast my vote, bitch about either outcome, and continue with my life.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 6:13 pm #
Take off the gloves big Mac!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 6:17 pm #
N. O’B: down in one of the other threads there’s discussion of alternate means of selecting political leaders (given your name, I’m sure you remember that The Admiral had some interesting thoughts about that).
I suggest that anyone who answers anything other than in the Asch experiment described in Zombie’s piece should be disqualified for public office, indeed, any position of responsibility whatsoever.
Thank you for the link.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/15 @ 6:17 pm #
Me, I’m sitting here, holding a fork, waiting for word that McCain went after Obama for his long-running associations with lunatic anti-Americans.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 6:20 pm #
Is Mikey NTH at the bar?
Comment by SarahW on 10/15 @ 6:24 pm #
Boo nay. I hearted my liberty.
Ooh. Don’t mention fork and allude to Dorhn in the same sentence.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 6:25 pm #
So how long until someone coins the term ODS?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 6:26 pm #
Screw my comment on 14 they already have coined a term for ODS, they just call people that do not like Obama racists.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/15 @ 6:28 pm #
h.t. to LGF.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:32 pm #
Why is that woman Janet Brown wearing a pink scarf on CSPAN? Code Pinker?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:32 pm #
so, Janet Brown, sneaky code pinker or just always cold? hence, the pink scarf.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:33 pm #
And she’s got big O! ear rings.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:33 pm #
will you people stop reading my mind?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:37 pm #
These people are always so mean about the rules. YOU WILL SHUT UP AND NOT MAKE A PEEP.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 6:41 pm #
She’s hiding the track marks and hickies.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 6:42 pm #
I’m really offended by these “rules” Interesting that the Commission is funded in a manner very like PBS–explains a lot. How is Caroline Kennedy on the debate commission and was leading BO’s Veep search?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 6:44 pm #
Why don’t we skip the middle men and just have Obama’s campaign staff ask the questions, provide the commentary, and give the post debate analysis. It is only fair.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/15 @ 6:44 pm #
Ya know, back in grade school — around 7th grade, I believe — we had a section of some class or the other on propaganda techniques. What zombie’s describing is the “bandwagon” technique: “everybody’s doing it! do you really want to be the outsider?!”
I don’t understand why this hasn’t been obvious to more people: when the results of polls are published, the polls are intended to push who ever’s “ahead”, not tell us anything about what people are thinking. When you want accurate polling, you don’t release the results: if you do, you skew the results of the next poll.
It’s quite disheartening to see so many people who pride themselves on their education, intelligence, and free-thinking to so easily fall for, and indulge in, such basic propaganda techniques. Is it because they want to be fooled?
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:47 pm #
“Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/15 @ 6:44 pm #”
See” Picking Up Hats- Waiting for Chico”
http://breathofthebeast.blogspot.com/2008/10/picking-up-hats-waiting-for-chico.html
Comment by Matt Kudasai on 10/15 @ 6:49 pm #
Commence your despair, wingnuts! THE END IS NEAR!
Think of it as a new beginning. Strong backs will be needed in our vast new arugula-farming collectives.
Reactionary hooligans will be dealt with accordingly.
Comment by Serr¼*½d on 10/15 @ 6:50 pm #
I hope this one isn’t a snoozer.
Does anyone else wish Fred Thompson was in this thing right now?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:50 pm #
ooooh, just spotted ACORN dude in the audience.
Comment by Serr¼*½d on 10/15 @ 6:53 pm #
maggie katzen, Scotty is more at home in this one.
Should’ve left the Apache in the background..
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 6:53 pm #
He’s been dubbed “RICO Unsuave”, maggie.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:53 pm #
“Does anyone else wish Fred Thompson was in this thing right now?”
Rudy would be alot of fun right now. “Sen. O! I’ve seen up close and personal terrorists.”
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:54 pm #
oh, sorry, guys. I’ve been w*rking today. har har.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:55 pm #
wonder what Romney is all worked up about.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 6:56 pm #
Rudy, in his appearances on TV on McCain’s behalf has been by far the best rhetorician on the scene right now. He would destroy Obama one on one.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:56 pm #
Code Pink protester on stage.
Comment by Serr¼*½d on 10/15 @ 6:56 pm #
Who’s gonna need to wØrk? We’ve daddy gub’mint to take care of it all.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 6:56 pm #
Piss on you, yout “test” and your ping f’ing scarf, beyotch.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 6:57 pm #
In fact, I’ve been thinking that it is a problem that McCain can’t think (ask questions) like a lawyer.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 6:58 pm #
How about Britt Hume or Charles Krauthammer moderating one of these? Would that be so wrong?
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 6:58 pm #
I have the sound turned down: is Bob doing a Depends commercial?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 6:58 pm #
you aren’t even drinking yet, RTO. was it all the sewer gas today?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 6:59 pm #
hey, why don’t you two get a room.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 6:59 pm #
Chuckie K could be really fun since he donns’t like either candidate.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 7:00 pm #
Sdferr–we’re sharing a couch and an internet connection now.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:00 pm #
oh, Sdferr, we’ve got a whole house. that smells. like sewer.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:01 pm #
Mr. Pink
You should see the trolls on my own blogsite… I’m a “beast”, Sarah and Todd are “horrible parents” and any criticism of The One is “ODS”.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 7:01 pm #
Time for staring at the teleprompter……
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:01 pm #
Bob’s ears are as big as O!’s
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:02 pm #
BTW
Jesse Jackson is so confident of an Obama win, he dusted off his anti-Semitism
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:02 pm #
Funny, that’s what I figured. Least wise a hotel might smell better, though I can’t say about RTO, I’ll leave that to you Maggie.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 7:02 pm #
ODS? That should be ODD.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:02 pm #
Well, at least this time the moderator looks older than McCain
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/15 @ 7:03 pm #
We’ve already sunk to taking shots at personal hygiene? Doesn’t bode well.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:04 pm #
Just pulling your leg, RTO, easy.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 7:05 pm #
What is it with McCain and his deep breaths?
Comment by Jim Ryan on 10/15 @ 7:06 pm #
Jeff, it all goes back to Marx. The lit crit crew was just the proximal cause. Marx wrote the virus:
If one posits plausible non-rational causes of another’s belief about what is good and right, this is sufficient refutation. No examination of the other’s reasons for the belief and no demonstration of the falsity of the belief are necessary.
Most convenient to this epistemological stance is the metaphysical one that no belief about good or right can have any justification or reality. Marx was consistent. He was a nihilist. He didn’t even believe that the belief in the goodness and rightness of communism had any basis.
The virus replicates itself. When it emerges in a natural language, the audience later repeats it. It gets under their skin by subtly disrupting the surety they have in their philosophically unreflective values, by bullying, and by the infliction of guilt. It cripples the intellect of most who are exposed to it. Only the keen, stalwart, and uncommonly devoted to truth can recover from the exposure. it spreads slowly, however, having taken 150 years to get to this point where the disease is rampant.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:06 pm #
Both candidates are opening with their stock stump lines.
STOP IT
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:06 pm #
Great Depression = drink
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:06 pm #
A tax credit for every job? What’s that?
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:07 pm #
OK, let’s get past who can be the better statist…
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:07 pm #
McCain let Bob get away with characterizing Obama’s tax cut b.s. – giving credits to non-payers – as a tax cut go unremarked.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:07 pm #
When your government gives you your job, your home, and your healthcare, aren’t you just a slave? Or at least a serf? An indentured servant working land that’s owned by your government, in return for protection by the government.
Welcome to the new world order people.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:08 pm #
YES he’s bringing up the plumber!!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:08 pm #
Oh, the plumber guy.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:08 pm #
The plumber ? Hey look, McCain’s people do read blogs !
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:08 pm #
Here comes the plumber mention. A plumber CRACK?
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:09 pm #
He’s fumbling with the plumber. Like he hasn’t had enough time to prepare.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 7:09 pm #
His tax cuts will be just like Bill Clinton’s, part of his campaign speeches, not part of his platform.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:09 pm #
O is going for the school master gig. Sounds sharp. Lots of Demo talking points, which correspond with the the script delivered this morning…
O’s not going to acknowledge Fannie or Freddie. And unless McCain goes back and drags O! off script, the press will not mention it tomorrow, even.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:09 pm #
That’s a good thing. But, Joe the plumber should be able to buy his business on his own without McCain’s help.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:09 pm #
Good – Joe the plumber!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:09 pm #
McCain just smiled at his pad. He better bring the funny.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
oh sh*t there’s that 95% crap again
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
“He’s been watching TV ads of Senator McCain’s”
Obama isn’t very witty.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
I think he can buy they business – he just doesn’t want to pay the backbreaking tax burden that already exists…
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
oh here we go. McCain needs to bring up the “anything over 250k per year is a small business” crap Obama was spewing. Its not income Barry, its the ability to generate income for yourselves and others.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
Here it goes, tax cut for non-payers. Does McCain respond?
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
That 95% again, ughh. Please enlighten the man Mac.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:10 pm #
Obama lies, he never said “five years ago” to Joe!! What the fuck is that?
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:11 pm #
O! you f@@kin liar
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:11 pm #
Wealth redistribution. Aw yeah!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:11 pm #
Hit him with the tax stick Johnnie!
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:11 pm #
O’s math is … quantum. Not applicable in this dimension.
Schoolmaster AND I’m So Much Smarter Than Anyone I DARE You To Contest My Supremacy.
Wow. O!’s team is going for script, script, script.
Oooh. “Spread the wealth”. “Class Warfare”.
McCain is going to be boring. But he’s swinging an axe slowly.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:11 pm #
Good for John! Hammer the tax man!
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:11 pm #
Distribution of wealth. Yes. but McCain fumbles it. I bet Rudy wouldn’t. Its primary reason he was my number one choice. McCain should talk about cutting the capital gains and corporate tax.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:12 pm #
Obama isn’t very witty.
Co-kai-een-a isn’t so good for the mindbrain.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:12 pm #
Warren Buffet is NOT Joe the plumber!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:12 pm #
Because Warren Buffet is the only dude who can afford to pay Obama’s taxes.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:12 pm #
McCain is behind the curve.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:12 pm #
Did he just say that once joe makes more than 250,000, then tough shit?
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:12 pm #
clean your ears, Darleen.
are they biased too, or need eardoctor.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:13 pm #
The whole problem is, the One can say “I won’t raise taxes” and the msm will not ever vet it, ie look at the tax plan.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:13 pm #
O! invokes “my supporter” Warren Buffet.
Class war. Class war.
“They can AFFORD….”
FUCK YOU YOU GODDAMN SOCIALIST SHITBAG.
Fuck me. Carter, but with a national machine with a fucking plan right behind him.
And O! doesn’t mean well…
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:13 pm #
NOT SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND!!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:13 pm #
The price of oil has fallen 50%, Obama. Jesus, where is Exxon’s profit headed today? Down, that’s where.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:13 pm #
The core invesgtments that make this economy strong? Like pork? If all we paid for was core investments, all we’d be funding through taxes would be schools, fire depts, and police. Give me a break. Core investments!? Like ACORN and CRA? jesus.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:13 pm #
Point..McCain.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:14 pm #
As an aside, I think Bob should ask Obama his thoughts on the Guy Ritchie Madonna split.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:14 pm #
WhooHooo!! Budget deficit spending!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:14 pm #
no sashal, Obama said that Joe should have gotten that tax 5 years ago BEFORE he earn’s 250,000.
O tells joe to go pound sand
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:15 pm #
McCain won the first question..
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:15 pm #
finally… cuts!
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:15 pm #
Dear Lord I wish someone would do the math on how LONG it would take to go through the budget line by line.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:15 pm #
Um…. did anyone tell Obama the President does NOT have a line item veto?
Comment by Betterthanyou on 10/15 @ 7:15 pm #
good on ya sash. Point for Sheifer too.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:16 pm #
750 Billion should be spent by the time tne next Pres is inaugurated. If it’s to do any good at all.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:16 pm #
SO what were those cuts Obama?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
I’d rather the American people got to keep more of their money to make their own investments (but importantly, take their own losses if their risk assessments are wrong).
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
Oh cool, Obama is going to make sure everyone exercises and eats right
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
Schieffer is throwing figures around, which puts him on the O! script.
The problem isn’t numbers. It’s structural.
Obama’s answer… “make sure taxpayers get their money back”. That’s one hell of a turnip truck needed, right there.
“Line by line, page by page… invest… “. Platitudes. Medicare/Medicaid/Energy Policy/Education.
“Once we get past this crisis…” Barak, under your presidency, there can’t be a “past”. Feauture, not bug.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
*Dear Lord I wish someone would do the math on how LONG it would take to go through the budget line by line.*
Well when you can be in all places at all times, like the One, time has no real meaning.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
Hey, good strategy, JM mentions Senator [Hillary] Clinton.
Smell the PUMA!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
Spending freeze. hell yeah. You want me to fork over tax dollars, then you need to control your spending!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
Spending freeze
Hatchet first, scalp second
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:17 pm #
The CNN lines are a lot better for McCain when he just doesn’t talk
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:18 pm #
Wait… McCain gets pressured to name specific programs but O didn’t name a one???
Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/15 @ 7:18 pm #
Have fun with the debate, folks. I just watched “The Happening”, so as to bid adieu to M. Night Shamalamadingdong’s movie career, and now I’m going to climb into bed and read “The Smoke Ring”.
Good God that movie was bad. When Zooey Deschanel isn’t enough to keep my interest, that’s bad. When the highlight of the movie is John Leguizamo climbing out of a wrecked Jeep, unhurt (“Aw! Damn!”), only to sit down and slit his wrist (“All right!”), that’s bad.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:18 pm #
Darleen – SHhhh…
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:19 pm #
Milk subsidies. sugar subsidies, farm subsidies in general, out with them!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:19 pm #
Sashal
CNN “meters” is about gonads, not reflection. Either turn the channel or FOAD.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:19 pm #
yeah. something vague about Medicare….
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:20 pm #
I eagerly await McCain’s working Joe the plumber into every answer
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:20 pm #
@112 – Yeah, what are you going to do the next year after you read the first budget?
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:20 pm #
yes, YES
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:20 pm #
That’s some special “history” there, leaving out 99.99% of it.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
Ha! Too late to run against Bush.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
You should have run 4 years ago O!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
“if you want to run against Bush you should have run 4 years ago”
POINT MCCAIN! Yes!
Comment by psycho... on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
I’m watching a documentary about Vermeer.
All these pictures of white women when I know Obama’s lurking on the other channels are gettin’ my blood angried up.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
Obama’s looking a bit testy, I think.
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
3-0 philly, bases loaded 2 out.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
No, not the record! Don’t bring up the record!
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:21 pm #
I eagerly await McCain working Joe the Plumber’s wrench into sashal. Is that wrong ?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:22 pm #
Oil baby, drill, and drill and drill. Gotta have it. Wanna move a flatbed load of bricks or steel? Not gonna do it with batteries.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:22 pm #
Tort reform, you’re a real MAVERICK there O.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
McCain. Well played on the difference between running against Bush and himself.
Taking Obama down with NUMBERS on Obama’s only two budget votes.
Obama falters; “standing up to leaders”.
Supports to Charter Schools, Pay for Performance, Tort Reform, Clean Coal?
WTF did that come from?
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
I’m NOT BOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHH!!!!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
Um… making enviromentalists annoyed is not “reaching across the aisle”
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
Whooper ” I got a history of working across the aisle”
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
“Even fox news,” what a fucking tool.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
Occassionally mistaken, what a dusche.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:23 pm #
“reaching” across the aisle, Senator O? I visualize an amoeba’s pseudopod..not much of substance.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:24 pm #
How is a spending freeze the same as the last 8 years?????
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:24 pm #
right now Obama won that part, connected Bush to McCain
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:24 pm #
hell yeah, get in there McCain and don’t let him lie the last word on the subect.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:24 pm #
Has Obama looked at the GNP lately? Don’t tell me it hasn’t worked, lying scum.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:24 pm #
McCain has him monologing
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
T-Minus 10 seconds to pissing match
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
Haha. McCain is really calling him out tonight. Must be getting sick of the BS.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
Nasty? Bullcrap.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
Please…Ayers…wright…please…
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
HERE IT COMESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
Uh oh
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
Here it is MAC…
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:25 pm #
O’s script doesn’t have much flexibility. O keeps going back to Bush. And McCain is ONE fucking senator; go find how many Dems voted on the same side as McCain going back eight or ten years. Bet they “voted for Bush”, too.
Point McCain, going to the hilt on “you haven’t stood up to your party”.
Schieffer doing damage control for O, trying to box McCain. “Mean”.
Comment by Betterthanyou on 10/15 @ 7:26 pm #
Holy shit
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:26 pm #
Oooooooh! Ayers opening! Don’t blow it, Mac!
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:26 pm #
kindergarten
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:26 pm #
McCain needling him on townhalls
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:26 pm #
Scheifer paints Obama’s picture for him. Nice.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
YES! Call him out dude.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
Calling The One out about Lewis
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
Yes get him on going back on his word.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
public financing!
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
The HIGH road. Is it good enough?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
Calling The One out on public financing!!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:27 pm #
Smirk is all you’ll get John.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
McCain looked very decisive there. He was on a roll
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
Ouch
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
The One is stuttering
Comment by Betterthanyou on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
Obama’s mouth guard just flew out
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
Did he mention Ayers? NO, he didn’t.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
Obama goes to the polls… AND LIES
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
Who’s that Betterthanyou tool?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
O!: MORE PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME!!!
nice.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:28 pm #
And Obama STILL HAS REPUDIATED LEWIS
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
Get mad, John. He called you a liar.
TEMPER TIME!
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
me
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
I am liking McCain more than I thought. Reiterating his proposal for the ten debates. And now going to Lewis’ “Wallace” slur.
Nice move. And he’s called O! on his not repudiating. And McCain is absolutely right that McC has in fact been on top (correct or not) in immediately reining in any campaign statements he didn’t support.
Wow. Good, closing with O! not keeping his word on spending. Will O! toss Lewis under the bus? Quoting media about what is negative campaigning.
Fucking communist. Don’t get a pic with him near the river walk.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
Call him out for the liar he is, McCain.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
Health care = drink
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
not
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
Heh Double Heh. Distractions disttractions why won’t you GET BACK TO THE GODDAMN ISSUES MCCAIN. heh
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
aaaaand we’re back to Bush.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:29 pm #
O! back to Bush and STILL NO REPUDIATION
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:30 pm #
That’s unbelievably stupid to refer to the polls in a debate.
“I’m winning so vote for me”.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:30 pm #
Ayers. Ayers. Ayers. Ayers. Just do it.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:30 pm #
Obama back on extemporaneous bullshitting now.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:30 pm #
Great game, that.
DAllas sucks~!
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:30 pm #
Of course you’d love it terrorist pal arounder.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:31 pm #
Keep going McCain. You’ve been practicing for this all day. Hit him hard.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:31 pm #
Ayers. You can say it, McCain. Ayers. Rezko.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:31 pm #
Obama equivocating on Lewis!
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:31 pm #
“Health care = drink”
Hope you ate LOTS of bread before this started, sir.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:31 pm #
Don’t let him off on the repudiation thing.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
I’m sure Lewis will understand. By any means necessary and all that.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
okay… there’s the Ayers opening…..
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
Obama’s invading Paaawwwwkkkeeeestan!
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
Holy crap Obama is blaming Palin for Lewis ???????
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
Didn’t say kill Obama. LIE.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
Opening, big time. Not about Obama.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
Obama IS LYING! NO ONE SAID “KILL HIM” ABOUT OBAMA
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
Barak is rationalizing Lewis… against the “kill him” directed at Ayers at the Palin event.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:32 pm #
A second opening on Ayers.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
He’s inviting McC to run as a messiah. Fat chance.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
We put out. did the words come from your mouth, Sen Obama?
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
Hahahah…McCain is soooo pissed right now. This is hilarious.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
“Pal around with terrorists”
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
health care = drink2
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
O really does do the extemp. bullshit thing well, I’ll give him that.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
Schieffer is going to have a tough time saving O!
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
Twofer twofer go go go
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:33 pm #
Fringe peoples…here comes the Ayers line McCain, come on….
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
Get to the point John. YES. You repudiate them, he doesn’t.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
Ayers goddamn it.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
c’mon! agh. he passed on Ayers.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
Tee shirts!
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
SAY IT. AYRES. SAY IT ! He DOES pall around with terrorists. SAY IT. Tell them to Google Bill Ayres.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
John is mad. Obama is stuttering.
Point, McCain.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:34 pm #
YES THE T SHIRTS
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
Obama… “here..ere..uh…uh…uh”
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
god damnit just say it.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
Yeah, you can have a “debate back and forth”. That’s why you’re there, moron.
Comment by old texas turkey on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
O! wants out of this discussion like NOW.. please please please
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
Great depression = drink2
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
McCain is wussing out before our eyes.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
He hasn’t passed on Ayers. McCain has it cocked and locked and pointed at his head.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:35 pm #
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
AYERS ACORN
bunk
Comment by old texas turkey on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
BOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
FINALLY!!!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
AYERS!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
“I don’t care about a washed up terrorist”
AYERs ACORN!!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
Obama’s laughing!?
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
There it is
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
Ayers BOOM. ACORN BOOM.
That’s called a double tap. The Marine Corps taught me about that.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
Obama’s face says “here comes a lie”
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
FINALLY. Here we go.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
ACORN!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:36 pm #
Bring up the CAC, McCain. Bring it up!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:37 pm #
Obama is doing the Ayers is just a professor crappola!
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:37 pm #
Ayers. Acorn.
And he wrote my frigging book!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:37 pm #
McCain cannot let him get away with this.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:37 pm #
THIS campaign.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:37 pm #
So why didn’t pitch your Annenberg challenge as executive experience? Eh?
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
There is the door… who cares sho funded it… does that make it OK?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
That is not Mr. Ayers.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
Oh, poor little ACORN… just community organizers poor things
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
You’re going to have to put two and two together for them John. Tie him to those sinking ships and see if he floats.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
O! looks like a little kid trying to lie to his mom about where those cookies went.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
O! also TRAINED ACORN why did he not mention that?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:38 pm #
Cannot let him get away with this, as these are not the relevant facts.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:39 pm #
WARREN BUFFETT. DRINK !
floundering. Sinking. Tanking. Jim Jones ! From Jonestown.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 7:39 pm #
He trained them too? I thought he had represented them legally.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:39 pm #
Bob is going to cut McCain off.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:39 pm #
Forty years.. eight years old.. condemned acts… Annenburg. Script.
If McCain doesn’t point out 150 million, and doesn’t mention at least three of the recipients who got money who were former terrorists or Leftists…
And “all I had to do with ACORN” doesn’t jibe with what’s already public.
Oooh. Invoking Buffet. AND Volker.
I’m waiting for McCain’s extend. How far will media will go to make this bleeding stop.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:39 pm #
Woods Foundation. Launching political campaign. Records are records. Thank you.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:39 pm #
McCain nailing him on facts
Comment by SarahW on 10/15 @ 7:40 pm #
I ran away from the debate. Can’t watch anymore. It’s so painful.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:40 pm #
This is why McCain could use a lawyers background. Sad.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:40 pm #
BAD transition into a positive message.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:40 pm #
I’m doing radio. Is Obama really that smarmy? I hear smirking….?
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:40 pm #
What happens in the living room stays in the living room..
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:40 pm #
Obama now going to defend Slo Joe
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
Obama just lied straight to our faces. Awesome.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
And… there is the lifeline
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
SCRANTON!
Comment by SarahW on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
There’s always comets from space.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
……..he has the smoothest forehead
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
You should watch it, SarahW. McCain is actually showing a bit of fire tonight.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
Joey Hairplugs is GREAT. He’s from SCRANTON!!!!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
What a laugh. Joe the expert numbnuts.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
Obama is going to try and give Joe a blue collar background??? Um…. untruthful…
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
There should be some Ayers and ACORN Googling…
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
Palin vs Biden. Superb. Because Palin is a CONSERVATIVE.
Scrantin! Scrantin! He’s from Scrantin!!!!! Working families!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
SCRANTON! Double-shot for everybody!
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
The laugh defense. Last line of hope for the factually deficient
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
NYT Tomorrow: John McCain attempted to lynch Obama last night and in other news, Gov. Palin is a skank.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 7:41 pm #
Obama “I never worked with Acorn, do not believe your eyes people. I can just say thats not true and count on my media buddies to never question me.”
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
“Biden share my values”
like making shit up?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
Yes Joe agrees with O….. EAT THE RICH
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
Wtf. Defending Biden’s record ? And seriously does “working families” = “middle class”? I’m just not sure I understand.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
Please mention that Biden thought that the US and France got Hezbollah out of Lebanon.
Comment by SarahW on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
O is president fucking allstate. Boop Beep Boop Beep
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
Give tax breaks to small businesses?!?!?
Yeah, just as Joe the Plumber.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
I think that little smirk of Obama’s a few minutes ago lost him a lot of votes.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
“Joe has always been on the right side”
BWHAHAHAHAH
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:42 pm #
O’s a little more relaxed when he’s not lying so much.
Comment by SarahW on 10/15 @ 7:43 pm #
If this is how Allahpundit feels all the time I don’t see how he stays inside the window ledge.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 7:43 pm #
Or that FDR got on TV in 1929 to explain to the American people exactly what happened.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:43 pm #
did obama say he did not launch his campaign in Ayers’ living room? It sounded as though he said McCain’s claim was false.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:43 pm #
If Obama was the bo diddly lawyer he’s supposed to be, he’d not have hit the replay button on the talking points.
McCain is emphatically not running a script.
O! is reactive in any conflict situation where he’s mano a mano. This is very troubling.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 7:44 pm #
Romney
Guiliani
Thompson
Should all be speaking instead of this guy.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:44 pm #
Good job, John. Supporting Sarah Palin.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:44 pm #
did obama say he did not launch his campaign in Ayers’ living room?
Yes, he did. Verifiable lie.
Not that the MSM will call him on it.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:44 pm #
O! are YOU QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT?
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:44 pm #
McCain: If you are about change and hopey – why would you put the poster child for the old boy network and cronyism on the ticket? Eh?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
Decency is Palin’s hallmark. Big contrast with everywhere else we look in politics.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
Maybe not his campaign (this campaign) but his whole freakin’ political career.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
O! would abort ‘em. That’s the Democrat’s answer to ’special needs’.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
$PEND
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
Cocamaemy. How do you spell that??
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
Sdferr
Obama tried to say he didn’t, McCain said “yes you did” then launched into “facts are facts”
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:45 pm #
*O’s a little more relaxed when he’s not lying so much.*
Wait wait wait. There’s truth amongst the manure ?
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
Cocamamy! never used enough
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
Asking O! if Palin is qualified.
That’s actually dangerous; pointless, but O! could piss of the Hillary! womyns without too much forethought.
McCain going after Biden on votes and policies. O! danced around Palin, then badmintoned that fucking “special needs” talking point again.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
We need to spend more. That’s always the answer.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
John about Biden “he’s just been wrong so much”
hee hee
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
Qualified? She is more qualified than you O!
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
Why do we always have to spend more?
He’s a DEMOCRAT! Buy them votes~!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
yes, I think that’s what I heard too.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
Climate Control is easier.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
McCain just hit ‘em with a roundhouse, and the mod wants to change the subject. jesus.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:46 pm #
That being the Columbian spelling of cockamamy
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
Cockamamie – but that’s if you’re from the narth Ana…
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
“Why do we have to spend more?” thank you John
Comment by Cook County Election Officer on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
shank-
When your government gives you your job, your home, and your healthcare, aren’t you just a slave?
You are simply cattle.
“If you want to be taken care of and not have to worry, that’s fine; you can just join the rest of the cattle. Cattle are comfortable- that’s how you recognize them. Just don’t complain when they ship you off to the packing plant. They bought and paid for the privilege.” – David Gerrold
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
Hear that, Diana? Canadian oil is fine.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
What is that noise I keep hearing? Sounds like someone is snorting coke in the background.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
Eek. “Climate Change” from Schieffer; I guess it’s official, it’s NOT “warming” any more.
And this is not one I’m looking for McCain to make any points on.
Be STRONG, SarahW! LOL….
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:47 pm #
Oooo… I like the NAFTA/Canada line…
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:48 pm #
McCain is downright frisky
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:48 pm #
LOL Canadian oil is OK Unless there is a mouse in your barrel. Than its free
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:48 pm #
Obama is back to his ten year fantasy
Comment by comatus on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
C-o-c-k-a-m-a-m-i-e.
You’re welcome.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
The old duffer is taking stuff to the woodshed. Too bad he’s so wrong on so much.
But that Obama is all suit in love with the rather slimy sound of his own voice. How’d we ever get to this point?
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
Our children’s future!
Drink!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
You aren’t going to have ten years, O!
Not going to happen. Nope.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
M’lady just watches us – she’ll only ask later if we’re done…
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
Answer the question O! 10 year plan to defeat Oceania!
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
Given that there’s about jack you can do in four years in reducing dependence on a fungible good. So, I think I’ll do my part and go to Mexico and buy a case of motor oil to reduce our dependence.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
Solid energy answer.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
*sigh* leases do no good, if there isn’t any oil there. goofus.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:49 pm #
Obama is parroting Pelosi’s “use it or lose it” fallacy?????
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:50 pm #
We don’t borrow from China, we buy their stuff with our money, they invest their earnings here.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:50 pm #
Obama’s stealing Palin’s tactic on the “use it or lose it” thing.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:50 pm #
I love how expanding capacity in Obama talk means policy-making. To most folks, expanding capacity means expanding fucking capacity, not indirectly forcing companies to waste resources on inefficient leases.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:50 pm #
Dumb question, Schieffer. Quantities on oil consumption/imports would be pulled out of ass, at best.
But O goes ahead and says “TEN YEARS, not FOUR”… then forgets the question.
“Use or Lose” leases. O! doesn’t know shit about recovery. “We can’t drill our way”. Hey, communist, didn’t you see what happened on the WORD that congress didn’t renew the offshore ban?
Fucker.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 7:50 pm #
That noise, Spies, are O!’s trailing esses. But they’re articulate.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:50 pm #
I believe in free trade. Really?
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:51 pm #
Oooooh. I believe in free trade when you cut the nuts off it!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:51 pm #
You can’t force China to revalue their currency, Obambi. Even if you talk change and hope.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:51 pm #
Words mean things, SenatO!r.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:51 pm #
JHoward
I have so many issues with McCain…but Obama is so far left I can’t believe people are just laying down about it.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
Here it is
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
Drill here drill now, gotta love it. Love how McCain hits him on his semantics and double speak.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
“Look at offshore drilling”. Well played McCain.
And Obama is exposed on free trade. He’s gotta lie; it’s a party thing.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
Whoa…. McCain “praises” The O’s “eloquence”
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
Free trade is just that: FREE. Not free trade with grappling hooks and ropes.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
“Free trade” now defined as “selling exactly the same number of every item to the other country as they sell to you”.
Novel. Fucktarded, but novel.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
I think McCain is just flat sharper. So much for the self-evident brilliance of the O! phenom.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
“I admire Sen. Obamas eloquence, but you have to pay attention to words”
McCain reads PW!!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:52 pm #
Obama look very happy with himself tonight, doesn’t he? Like the cat that ate the canary.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:53 pm #
He’s rolling. This is good.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:53 pm #
McCain nailing O on the Columbia free trade
But that doesn’t make Hugo happy, and Ayers daughter working for Hugo wouldn’t be happier either.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:53 pm #
I don’t think that smirk is going to play well with the voters, shank.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:53 pm #
Wowza, didn’t see Columbia coming, but keep it coming, go for the effing jugular!
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:53 pm #
O! is waiting for Schieffer to MAKE IT STOP!!!
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:53 pm #
Rights. Rights. Rights. He flings that word around a lot and it loses it’s meaning.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:54 pm #
O! supports the Columbian communists! Che! Che!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:54 pm #
I haven’t been following Colombia much, but let me take a wild stab here and guess that these “labor leaders” are communists.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:54 pm #
Did the Messiah just say we should “enforce unfair trade agreements?”
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:54 pm #
There have not been prosecutions? Is that possible? I doubt it, for some reason. ‘Spect we’ll be hearing from the Columbians tomorrow.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
we need cars of the future. NOW!!!! where’s my flying car? huh? why haven’t they even come up with those yet?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
“People can’t get car loans”
um… I just heard a Ford commercial today that said they were going to carry their own paper. They are offering loans.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
People can’t get car loans my ass. People who have decent credit and have a freaking downpayment can get car loans. I can walk out right now and get a car loan.
Here he goes with T Bone again.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
Our automakers need blame Democrat-supporting unions.
Nissan, here, is doing just fine.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
A fundamental difference between these two, McCain’s failings notwithstanding, is that O! really seems to think that if he can imagine it, it’s automatic policy. It’s the height of arrogance.
The old man has enough experience to speak to practical repercussions and outcomes.
Electing O! is an exercise in pure conjecture. I mean, listen to this egotist.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
The bent thumbs creep me out. anyone else?
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
He’s laughing again. Dude. WTF.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
Right… Tax Detroit more than tell them what to produce.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
Just when Obama begins to impress me, he just flat fucks causality and prognostication.
Windmills and five million jobs and the clean, efficient cars auto makers SHOULD be making.
Huh?
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 7:55 pm #
I wish McCain was smoother. I almost long for “strategery!”
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
It may be better is cars are built in Columbia, actually. Hugo is Bill Ayers pal, John, did you know that?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
YES HERBERT HOOVER!!
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
Obama wants people like me to drive to work in a go-cart.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
Chavez! Daaaaayum. Smirk now Smirky Obamapants.
We’d like to thank you Herbert Hoover!
And here comes health care.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
alpuccino –
the bent thumb doesn’t feel as creepy as it looks.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
if
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 7:56 pm #
BOOM! Obama the Hooverite. And the mod pulls the plug.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
O! you Hoover
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
Obama is all about the “have your pie and eat it too” thing, isn’t he?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
Ah, the sad health care anecdote. Gotta love it.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
Evil earth destroying go-carts.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
Control or expand costs and coverage? huh?
Schieffer is responding to the red handle that O! pulled under the table…
Oh, and did these guys rehearse this? O! and Schieffer?
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
No, more like, have SOMEONE ELSE’S pie and eat it too.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
- Obama is rattled and pissed – McCain is eating his lunch.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
Yes, O, I can keep my employer plan… UNTIL I CHANGE JOBS.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
NO, Sen. Obama, you KEEP your plan. I don’t want it.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 7:57 pm #
Obama’s stuttering a lot tonight, isn’t he? He had that pretty much under control in the last one, but it’s back with a vengeance.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 7:58 pm #
McCain is eating his lunch, Shortly before drinking his milkshake.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 7:58 pm #
Obama “just jump in the pool with us”…. increments into nationalized medicine.
There he is telling my daughter, the nurse, she doesn’t own her own labor.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 7:58 pm #
WE are going to manage chronic illness??? This is the job of the government?
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 7:58 pm #
“If you don’t have healthcare, what we’re gonna do is…”
How about DC socialists kiss my ass.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 7:58 pm #
Can the populace in general get that McCain is whoopin’ ass and Schoiffa is saving the hapless O!?
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:58 pm #
THat’s why you will have a choice, Sdferr
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 7:59 pm #
Why does American health care cost so much? Partly because it is so f-ing good.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 7:59 pm #
McCain needed, on the ACORN thing, to say you lied to me, you lied to Hillary, and you lied to the American people about your campaign financing, and now you expect us to believe you on voter fraud, with an organization that your campaign gave $800k to?
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 7:59 pm #
If you don’t have healthcare
insurance. I’m guessing he means “healthcare insurance”. It’s a small thing, but it bugs me.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 7:59 pm #
Its a right dammit… O! has said… so it shall be
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 7:59 pm #
moderators. All of them, sucked
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:00 pm #
He’s gonna fine you. Yes. Let’s talk about that.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:00 pm #
Not likely, MC. Minds are made up.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:00 pm #
McCain bringing schools into the mix… noting they fall short in PT and nutrition ed. GOOD!
Tax credit to find your own coverage. Better than National Health UK or Canada.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:00 pm #
Yes, the FINE again. Make the fucker answer that one.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 8:00 pm #
I wont tax you… but i will tell you how you have to pay your employee(s)
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
Define small business O.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
I need a pony. For my healthcare. Therapeutic riding and all. Does the O! plan cover that?
Comment by Diana on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
I heard it, Ana. Y’all look north now. HOPE!!!!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
Obama… WHAT IS A SMALL BUSINESS TO YOU?
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
John’s incredulous on the fine? Whatcha got their John? Step in big MAC…
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
Now the fine is “zero”.
Sure it is.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
Obama is flailing “large/small” … who decides, who COERCES, jefe… I mean, senator?
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:01 pm #
“I, King O!, exempt…” I do this, I do that. Wrong country, dude.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
What constitutes large?
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
Somebody has to provide them with health insurance, eh? Does someone have to rake their lawns? Anything else that the government has to do?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
Oh, bullshit with the uninsured. Damn it.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
Is O! arguing with the plumber?
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
please stop invoking Joe. I can imagine Joe getting famous off all this, going on a coke bender and ending up as a “guest” on what’s left of Air America, blaming the conservatives.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
Obama has taken the clock. Schieffer is catching tonight. Or will be later.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 8:02 pm #
WHY DOES OBAMA GET 20 MINUTES AND MCCCAIN GETS 1?????????
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
McCain is making the health insurance PORTABLE
When I change jobs I get to keep my auto insurance and my homeowners insurance, WHY NOT MY HEALTH INSURANCE.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
- O! just used that lie he likes to use when he gets backed into the corner on drilling.
- We hold 3% of the worlds oil supplies (est as 2,3 trillion barrals) but we use 25% of the worlds oil production (10 billion barrals a year).
- The two fucking percentages have not a damn thing to do with each other. This is why no one trusts the CandyMan. He uses misdirection when he can’t honestly answer a question for fear of making one of his groups mad.
- In other words, the ONLY way we can quickly start moving away from oil import dependency is to drill baby drill.
- But WonderBoy can’t say it. So he lies.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
John, explain that the tax goes back to your insurer into a flex account.
Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
It’s settled, after Obama is elected we will all live forever and never have to pay for anything again.
Holy shit, my neck suddenly feels better… its a miracle! Obama healed me!
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
Again, O! simply wills best intentions into reality!
No freaking need for Reid, Pelosi…or Biden. Oops.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
$12,000? $1,000/month? For the “average” policy?
Bull-fucking-shit.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
Joe won the lottery!
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 8:03 pm #
I told you in the beginning, we will see more of Joe. Am I good or what ?
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:04 pm #
Did I miss anything?
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:04 pm #
You know what? No matter how anti-capitalist McCain may be, he’s freakin’ Carnegie or J.P. Morgan on a big damn train compared to Obama’s least economic inclinations…
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:04 pm #
Man, you guys have been busy.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:04 pm #
Big gov at its worst, John, not best, jesus.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:04 pm #
What’s crazymaking about all of this is that on health care they’re both telling us how much they’re going to ‘give’ us. Of our frigging money.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
Wait – is McCain’s 95% the same as Obama’s 95%?
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
*This is why no one trusts the CandyMan. *
bbh i hope you’re right.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
YES hit him on GOVERNMENT.
SENATOR GOV’T LOL
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
Senator Government. ha!
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
Senator Government! Excellent.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
Senator Gov’T
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
Johnny Mac’s number sounds more realistic. He’s old, though, so there’s that.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
M’lady! You guys win a Conservative election and you come ‘a talkin’!!!
Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
SENATOR GOVERNMENT!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
nice slip
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
“Senator Government” BWA! And John goes for the close.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
McCain nailed him on the $12,000 thing. Good.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:05 pm #
Fucking cut off by the mod AGAIN.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
I love that too! SENATOR GOVERNMENT!!! Say it some more…
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
Three glasses of vino, and John doesn’t look so bad. I’m all set for election day.
Of course, I want to bash Obama’s fucking face in. That smirk …
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
Senator Government!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
Obama is getting the last word again
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
OOO, McCain pointed out dems have been in charge last two years.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
Your employer provide you with health care using your money.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
Roe v Wade? First time in this debate
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:06 pm #
Ain’t that the truth. Hi, Carin!
“My plan is John McCain’s plan. Which really sucks, as I just mentioned.”
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
How would they know Bob?
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
So, to recap, free healthcare = reduced taxes for 95% of Americans. Those 5% are going to be seriously pissed.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
Abortion!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
Good explanation on the opinion of Roe V Wade John.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
McCain shoots down the litmus test
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
Wow – the moderator just rammed that down both their throats.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
McCain: “I’m a federalist.”
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
Gang of 14!
Comment by old texas turkey on 10/15 @ 8:07 pm #
Barry wants out. You can see it in his face. This is not the debate that I knew
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
I’m a bit behind. I paused to make popcorn.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
Federalist. Hmmmmmm
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
O! on the courts coming up next. This is a fish out of water in the middle of the six-lane. Buy tickets for this answer…
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
- Healthcare – McCain just shoved O’s words to “Joe the plumber” up the CandyMans coaco brown ass.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
McCain nails Obama on ideology vis a vis SCOTUS
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
O! voted against Breyer? Oopsie.
Have at it, nishi.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
Breyer? crap. too many simple mental slips.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
Roe v. Wade litmus test?
McCain identifies as “federalist”. What was MF/CFR then?
He’s talking about the gang of fourteen. Just wait and see if the situation requires the Dems to use the “nuclear option” to get past cloture.
They won’t even blink. The Republicans will find themselves caucusing in the parking lot until they get a majority again.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:08 pm #
yes, do not govern by your own ideologies, govern by the ideologies of the historical documents.
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Joe the plumber won this round
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE!!!
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Here’s your test: The Constitution. That’s the test.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Obama’s not qualified to discuss SCOTUS – he supports infanticide.
Comment by old texas turkey on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
“fairness and justice” – what a marooooon
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Obama is incoherent on Roe v. Wade.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
If Roe were overturned tomorrow it WOULD be kicked back to the states. John was right.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Courts…stammer…litmus test…stammer…[insert stock rhetoric]…stammer…
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Come on O…tell us again how babies are punishments again
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:09 pm #
Roe hangs in the balance? Only maybe, probably not.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
Hi Pablo. I’m watching you through the window (stalking), you’re ok with that, right?
JHoward – yep, that 5% is fucked. Of course, there may be a bit of “bleed over” …
Like plumbers … they’re gonna have to share that plumbing wealth.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
Obama is now arguing abortion?
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
Liberalism is a cult, and abortion is its sacrament.
Damn, O!, just spit it out.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
First Ammendment? Then why are you suing 527 groups?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
Breyer?
Comment by old texas turkey on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
is my right to healthcare immune from state referendums? sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
If the One taught constitutional law, after this debate, I imagine most of his former students are constitutionally retarded.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
Oh, anecdotes. Wake me, etc.
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
I’d be going all Galt’s Gulch on they ass. Or maybe a nice island with accommodating banks would be more pleasant.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:10 pm #
BTW, I noticed the comment thingies aren’t moving leftwards tonight. nice.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
Anyone keeping track of time between the O and John?
My husband is getting pissed because O is dominating the time.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
O!’s appointing judges based on populism. Fail.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
Incoherent on Roe is easy as Roe itself is kinda incoherent, TmjUtah
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
Obama voted against Roberts and Alito , on ideological grounds. McCain won’t have litmus test.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
McCain: mention the pay disparities between your campaign and Obama’s. Please.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
Pay discrimination! Please please please!
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
Galt’s Gulch, Cayman Islands?
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
He’s on a tangent.
If a woman is out there being treated unfairly I’m going to ride that horse!
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
gah! change the law, YOU’RE IN THE LEGISLATURE. DON’T EXPECT JUDGES TO DO IT.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
“it was a trial lawyers dream” AHAHAHAH
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:11 pm #
Obama just got saved by Schieffer. Saved from coming straight out and saying “I want judges to enact laws”.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
Oh NOES. the infanticide bill!!111
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
Yes the BORN ALIVE act
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
In fact constitutionally incapable from comprehending the constitution, blinded by the lightbringer’s lightness and such.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
That fucking SMILE when John is bringing up and uncomfortable fact. I just want to bash his face in.
And, it has nothing to do with the fact that he’s black.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
- See what O! did there. Family, Doctors, and Religious mentors just got added to the board of decision , with Obamas version of Roe/Wade.
- Hes really doing the Washington two-step on this whole judges question.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
Born Alive! Yes!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
Much smirking out of O tonight. Could it be the moon?
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
Ooh, “present” 130 times. JMC is firing on almost all cylinders.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:12 pm #
JOHHHNNNIIIIEEE MAC! Taking him to the woodshed on infanticide!!!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:13 pm #
Obama LIES on the Born Alive act….
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:13 pm #
Brought up infanticide. OK, he didn’t say that, but still, this is an intense debate…
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 8:13 pm #
O! LIES TO YOUR FACE
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
best eyeroll ever
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
I should slip into something more comfortable.
Look, Obama is lying! Dude, you’re busted on this one. Can you spin thorugh it?
Get him, Maverick.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
Sorry, Obama, it is in fact true you voted the way you did. Why does this fuck always want to hide behind some nameless Republican?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
“exception for life and HEALTH of a mother.”
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
The laugh is his tell. That and the way he licks Oreos
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
Partial-birth is a completely different issue, you fucking knob.
Comment by dre on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
NO COMMON GROUND !!!
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
Health of the mother. Like mental health?
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:14 pm #
I hate that I’m in a time warp. I’m tempted to catch up to you guys… but I just can’t.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
That and the way he licks Oreos
Awesome Rounders ref!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
Like our youth don’t know about SEX already?
Oh, that’s right, Obama wants sex ed for kindergarteners.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
Rich-
Rounders – awesome flick.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
“Health of the mother”. Yes!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
McCain nails him on “health”
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
You see how I have a speaker in his ear don’t you?
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
Oh, no Pablo. That color looks great on you …
carry on.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:15 pm #
Obamas being all unifyee about abortion.
McCain brings up words mean things.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:16 pm #
“Incoherent” on Roe because the president doesn’t have squat to do about it, really. But the last forty years the DEms have bugabooed their womyns and metros by making every presdential campaign pivot on the CW that the Republican candidate would shove women into alleys and toss coat hangers after them.
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 8:16 pm #
Oh Sure, you all know when he lies. you all know the facts….
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:16 pm #
Education. Hey Barky! What’s Ayers say?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:16 pm #
Annenberg Project!
Nail his ass, McCain!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:16 pm #
McCain is good, that is why Scheiffer keeps cutting him short.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:17 pm #
“Education”.
McCain: “Well we have folks like O!’s buddy Ayers working hard to bring on the revolution. Just sayin’”.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:17 pm #
The Feds have no business in education. ARGH.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:17 pm #
- Gee. Did you know Obama is AGAINST ABORTION!”
- I guess I must have missed that somewhere in the last two years.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:17 pm #
Spend lots, get little? Because of people like Obama and Ayers spending the money on political ideology rather than instruction.
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:17 pm #
That’s what, 3?
Does O! remember WWII and the Depression? Never?
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:17 pm #
Yeah Bob, government schools do suck. And here comes a solid wall of bullshit — O!’s best chance to will into existence a shining new world.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
Recruit an Army of new teachers. Like a liberation army. Lebanese? Japanese? Simbanese?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
Rich Cox this is for you
Let’s play some cardssssssss
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
That education question is bogus. “The US trails every country in the world in education”
Bullshit!
Most of the western world maybe.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
3, Pablo.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
Obama wants to toss $$$$ and make sure the teachers are rightly indoctrinated and they pass it on to 4 year olds.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
$4000 to sell your soul to Obama
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
Obama is such a fucking liar. Yes, Sashal, I can tell when he’s lying.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
McCain’s dead on – Roe v Wade is a horrible legal decision. Its legislation from the bench in its purest form. I assume the legislature could make it legal if they wished to do so. Or, as McCain argues, which I agree with, the “moral decisions” let the states make the decisions. I have no problem with California making gay marriage legal. I have no problem with Vermont making abortion legal. The states reflect the values/beliefs/morals of the citizens. But for example, gay marriage- whereas many people would agree to gay marriage and/or civil unions in some states, the gay rights movement requires acknowledgment in every state (for all kinds of reasons). The compromise, which I think was the founders intent, was to make the states somewhat independent to reflect their individual citizens beliefs. The federal government is the common belief in one nation.
Hrmm. “How do you know Obama is lying?”
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:18 pm #
“working in a community” – in other words being an Alinsky Communist!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
Obama plan: force you to attend indoctrination camp so you can afford college.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
Is there NO problem that more money and more regulation won’t be the remedy, senator O!?
Go after the parents? Darn, I thought it was the village thing.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
Put away the videogames!?!?
GET YOUR DIRTY COMMIE HANDS OFF MY PS3!
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
Whatcha gonna do? FINE parents if they don’t do it?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
School choice!!! YES!!!
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
I know,carin, you get your facts from FOX
Comment by clumper on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
Who does Obaaa think owns all those “big corporations” he wants to tax out of existence? Millions of little people – teachers, union members, firefighters, government emoployees and regular Joe Sixpack families – who have pension plans and 401(k) plans and investment clubs. Obama deliberately misrepresents the percentage of small businesses that exceed his $250,000 threshhold for damatically incre4ased taxes. He is a fraud and charlitan.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:19 pm #
McCain is going all real on education. Can I believe my ears?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:20 pm #
Last question, Johnny-Mac. Free shot at Ayers and the CAC here. Take it! Take it!
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:20 pm #
missing hf tonight. He musta had to go to dinner with the boss people, schade.
Obama hits the corps. gotta hit the corps. corps corps corps until they turn into corpse corpse corpse
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:20 pm #
Q: Hrmm. “How do you know Obama is lying?â€Â
A: He open his mouth.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Troops for teaching?
THAT was awkward.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Soldier teachers? Sweep the leftism right out on its pimpled ass, nice.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Hey! What are y’all drinking?
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Of course he thinks the government should play a bigger role. That;s his answer to EVERY QUESTION dude.
Comment by salgal-KS on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Yeah Darleen…indoctrinated by “exceptional” university profs like his good buddy, Bill Ayers!
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
McCain is going all real on education. Can I believe my ears?
He’s going to dynamite the Dept. of Ed??
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Federal money comes with strings
OBAMA LIES ABOUT NO CHILD LEFT behind
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
Federal Government needs to be involved. Huh. Whoda thought?
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
BS, Sashal. I don’t watch but, maybe, 15 minutes of Fox a day. The last 15 minutes of Brit Hume’s show.
Wrong again, you are.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:21 pm #
oh god……so tedious……such empty shit………
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
Here we go with the top-down education crap. Fail. Again.
Come on America, grow a perspective on this willya?
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
“That tradition has served us well BUT…”
Whew. O! almost went off script.
NCLB as “unfunded”. That would be the part that Kennedy wrote, if I remember correctly. He did that so the local teacher’s unions could bitch about “perform for pay”.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
Sauvignon blanc.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
so, um, how are those schools doing, Obama?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
Iced tea, BRD, whaja think?
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
Obama likes to parrot McCain on things that won’t offend the moonbats.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:22 pm #
You’re in bed with Teachers Unions Obama. Shut up.
Comment by salgal-KS on 10/15 @ 8:23 pm #
Oh no! he’s bringing up his wonderful track record in IL…talk about CAC, John!
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:23 pm #
So the govt will help you find a job, then help you pay for your house, your healthcare, and your childrens’ education.
All while reducing taxes for “95%” of the population.
I swear to god, I’m tripping right? That’s not really what’s coming out of Obama’s mouth tonight is it?
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:23 pm #
It is not about paying. It is about what you will teach and who will teach it.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:23 pm #
- Obama is trying to filibuster past the Ayers/Annanberg thing.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:24 pm #
Money can’t do it, O!. McCain should ask where that 150 Xtra large went in Chicago.
That one sure looks lonely, all teed up on that perfect, flawless, grass. Right at the noob pins, too.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:24 pm #
Still behind. I get so irritated about this “health of the mother” bs regarding abortion. So loaded. So full of crap.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:24 pm #
I don’t have school children anymore.
Getting bored…
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
And McCain will help him BBh.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
Harvest Moon Pumpkin Ale, here. hey, it was on sale.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
McCain stop talking about spending money. Oyyyyy.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
is just drinking water. But I think my neighbor’s house is on fire, so things will work out well when we are done here.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
Ought to be able to put out the SUV, too.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
This debate is so much better than the last one.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:25 pm #
Competition will reduce costs in education.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
- We need to reform the school system – we need to have transparency – we need to tell assholes like Ayers that want to indoctrinate our kids to go fuck himself.
- Vouchers – Fuck yeh!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
Scheiffer is letting Obama get the last word AGAIN…wtf!
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
How many times has O! said McCain is absolutely right tonight?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
Obama just tossed vouchers under the bus
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
Vouchers ARE the way to go. Unless you’re sucking up to the teachers unions.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
I’m drinking the iced tea, but I added the vodka. It makes them both sound much more reasonable and centrist. Except for the creepy socialist parts.
Comment by shank on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
McCain is fucking LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF! hahaha
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:26 pm #
You know, almost 90 minutes-in, and McCain is finally looking and sounding comfortable. ARg.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
didn’t Obama say he was for vouchers earlier? when he was rambling about his “unpopular” positions?
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
See!?
Obama is grimacing and nodding with McCain!
That fucker plays both ways.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
McCain gets the last word by stepping on Scheiffer….YES
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
Concur-
Obama agrees where the moonbats won’t pay attention too closely.
O! says there’s no data to support vouchers effectiveness.
BECAUSE THE TEACHERS BUY OFF THE ELECTIONS OR GET JUDGES TO OVERTURN WAIVERS BEFORE THEY CAN BE USED.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
- Obama’s trying to fight back to cover their Leftwing education programs.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
these weren’t my debates
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
The data doesn’t show that it solves the problem? For a minute there, I thought he was talking about progressivism.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
“My friends”. Ugh. DRINK. Slosh.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:27 pm #
“Healthy discussion” = eating Obama alive.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
Maggie
O was for vouchers before he was against them…within 5 minutes.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
Bless you all for having the stomach’s to watch that shit. Bless you all. South Park was just very funny.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
Much better debate in general. Mccain is still a lame-o though. He’s just crap at snappy, gripping rhetoric.
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
Why the “last 8 years” bit? Bad idea, Johnny.
Comment by BRD on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
See TMJ – that’s why the water will do no good without the fire.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
- NO VOUCHERS! – because you know, that would mean the Left would lose control.
Comment by comatus on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
Politicians, both parties, are always offering a Nude Erection for America. I wish they’d at least wear some “protection.”
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/15 @ 8:28 pm #
Scheiffer is letting Obama get the last word AGAIN…wtf!
I can’t tell you how much shit I’ve thrown at the TV watching FTN. Scheiffer is a pink.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:29 pm #
check, and double-check, BRD.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
yep. sometimes I wonder if it’s just he’s gunshy about being called “cranky” cause he used to occasionally land a punch.
Comment by JHoward on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
Yeah, “fundamental change” you cannot define, you fraud.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
Sdferr
McCain was MUCH better tonight. I’m glad this performance was his last..he got a lot of points in that needed to be said.
The One got away, again, without specifics.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
- Did He just admit Clinton was a loser? – and he still thinks hes running against Bush?
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
Middle class. College for everyone who wants to go. Middle class.
Drink. Hit yourself with a hammer. Drink.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
Obama is running against Bush. Damn that’s just sad.
Because of all the things that McCain is, he is emphatically not G.W. Bush.
Talking points, platitudes, “fought for my entire career….” that’s how long? It’s Wednesday…hmmm.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
- His entire career – all three weeks of it.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:30 pm #
McCain blinks a lot.
Is that a tell?
He’s stuttering a little too.
Not good.
Obama makes you realize the reason.
Teleprompter.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:31 pm #
“Fundamental decency”?
I thought we were all a buncha racists, Barry.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:31 pm #
Government does not understand investment, never has, never will. No politician who talks of investing your money for you should ever have your vote.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:31 pm #
Our children. Drink again.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:31 pm #
maggie
McCain has been in the Senate too long, when “get along” is now seeped into his bones. He has a hard time sucker punching.
But he did land a few good punches tonight.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 8:31 pm #
Johnnie Mac kicked ass… now the MSM spins…
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:31 pm #
shorter O!: I will give you everything. and a pony!
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:32 pm #
- He should have added – “And for you Little Socialists, vote early and vote often.”
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:32 pm #
Cindy McCain. God she’s the worst.
Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 8:32 pm #
Note that Obama interjected a positive note on America’s future. I can’t remember any Dem candidate doing that in a presidential debate.
I don’t think McCain lost anything.
Comment by eLarson on 10/15 @ 8:32 pm #
Good. The horseback riding is good for the lower back, or so I’ve been told.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/15 @ 8:32 pm #
I missed the debate…how much will O! pay me for voting for him?
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:32 pm #
Bret Hume: Joe the plumber is the star
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:33 pm #
I’ll put a stopwatch on the show later tonight and see if I can’t report back tomorrow vis a vis McCain time vs Obama time
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:33 pm #
Shit, he speaks in such platitudes.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:33 pm #
Ana
What’s your problem with Cindy??
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:34 pm #
Sdferr
My husband is convinced Obama got more time..and Scheiffer let him get the last word on a topic over and over.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:34 pm #
Jeffersonian – he will give you everything. The 5% will pay. Those fuckers.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:35 pm #
She looks older than John. And dead. Nothing personal. Just gives me the gut-level willies.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:35 pm #
I think I agree with you Darleen, that McCain was better tonight, much better, than in the last debate. He’s still too slow to notice his best openings, even when Obama hands them to him on a silver platter.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:35 pm #
but we used to hear stories (not that long ago) about what a bastard he was to people that didn’t agree with him. that’s why he’s “erratic”. That was why my dad wouldn’t vote for him in 2000. I think he mellowed a little too much, and I doubt it’s the last eight years in the Senate that did it.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:36 pm #
did anyone notice, is Palin on scene?
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:36 pm #
I think he mellowed a bit too much.
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 8:36 pm #
Michelle: Baby got BACK!
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:37 pm #
SEE!? McCain just made an angry face and grumbled at somebody!
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 8:37 pm #
The insipid dried up cunts on NPR yet again find the debate utterly without any meaning for the race yet very significant cause of how well Baracky does.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:38 pm #
Mmmm. I don’t think he’s mellowed. I think he’s learned how to keep a lid on it and he’s afraid to open his mouth lest the old SOB hop out and strangle someone. Frankly I’d rather have the SOB. He was good tonight. Didn’t really let up too much.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:38 pm #
She looks older than John. And dead
I suggest corneal transplants.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 10/15 @ 8:39 pm #
So how long till the CNN focus groups and straw polls tell us that Obama won handily?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/15 @ 8:39 pm #
Jeffersonian – he will give you everything. The 5% will pay. Those fuckers.
That’ll teach ‘em to give me a job that lets me buy cars, houses, scotch ‘n’ shit. Now I have a savior that will pull that stuff out of his ass, just for me.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:39 pm #
Happy, you need to wean yourself of NPR. I tried listening for a bit earlier today, but “Fresh Air” was a bit too much for me.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:39 pm #
I could imagine those NPR ladies knitting at the tumbrels, ‘feets.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:39 pm #
Man, those USS Liberty guys(?) are certainly persistent on the C-Span.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:40 pm #
- On the Ayers thing McCain didn’t say THE line – “guilty as sin – free as a bird – only in Amrica”
- He didn’t even mention Wright. He let Obama het Away with doing the “lets be less devisive” bullshit.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:40 pm #
Sdferr
Some people are great at debates, some have to work hard at ‘em. McCain has never been a debate whiz. Ever.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:40 pm #
She doesn’t creep you out? Really? I think she creeps people out. I’ve been wrong before.
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:40 pm #
No, you’re right Ana. He’s not really mellowed. He’s constrained.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:41 pm #
that’s because he’s a putz, BBH. We knew that going in, no?
Comment by serr8d on 10/15 @ 8:41 pm #
John took the high road. Let him be remembered for that.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 8:41 pm #
I know, Carin. My new pc will help for sure. This one has no speakers anymore so it’s just easier to listen to the propaganda. Linda Wertheimer. What a fucking crone.
Comment by qwfwq on 10/15 @ 8:42 pm #
Stop Obama Tour Schedule
Comment by Carin on 10/15 @ 8:42 pm #
Is it just me, or has M’chell put on some weight during this campaign?
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:42 pm #
BBH
Going personal negative is always a highwire.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:42 pm #
that’s closer to what I’m trying to get at. we’ve seen a few instances in this campaign where he’s been reported as being “angry” and then you see the tape and scratch your head.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:43 pm #
664, Darleen, quite right. I don’t hold it against him particularly except to note it. But the fact of it can’t help, given the emphasis, right or wrong, that is placed by so many people on these dog and pony shows.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:43 pm #
Carin
I don’t know, but she is a very large woman and Cindy and Sarah are petite little things in comparison.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:44 pm #
The Luntz bunch thinks Obama won
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 8:44 pm #
let it out
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:44 pm #
Yes, Carin, baby definitely got some back going on there.
To quote the bard, “Red beans and rice didn’t miss her.”
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:45 pm #
Of course, it looks like most of the Luntz Bunch are getting some of Joe the Plumber’s money
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:45 pm #
Ana
She doesn’t “creep” me out. Why is it that conservative blondes creep people out? It’s like the people who make snarky remarks about Nancy Reagan.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:45 pm #
A little angry is a good thing. I’d like to see a Palin Obama debate. I bet she’d be happy to quote Ayers.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 8:45 pm #
The NPR crone is obsessed with Joe the Plumber cause she knows NPR listeners hadn’t heard a word about him until tonight. Too funny. She’s being very careful to make sure we understand that Joe is a very wealthy plumber indeed.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:46 pm #
The Luntz bunch, there’s another dog and pony show. Luntz is the paper trainer.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:46 pm #
it’s those wee beady eyes.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/15 @ 8:47 pm #
“Oh, you’re drinking my beer!”
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:48 pm #
The slimline sideburns really make Frank’s face look fat
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 8:48 pm #
- I watched the focus group thing, a few in the audience said they had gone from undecided to O!.
- I guess ita true. We’ve become a nation of American Idol watchers, and we deserve whatever Gov. we get.
- Several said they thought O! delivered his comments clearly and eloquently. What I didn’t hear many say is that they actually LISTENED to the double speak he was delivering.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 8:48 pm #
oh. I would happily make snarky remarks about Nancy Reagan. When she dies I will not feel very sad. Also she made flakey babies.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:48 pm #
You really wonder what those NPR people think they’re doing… I mean, aren’t about 95% of their listeners already voting for Obama anyway?
Comment by charles austin on 10/15 @ 8:48 pm #
McCain wins debate!
Obama wins the election anyway!
As Al Czervik said years ago, “Hey everybody, we’re all gonna get
laidscrewed!”Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:49 pm #
I’m really disappointed that the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was never mentioned.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:49 pm #
Frank is fat, Al, what’s with the make?
Comment by Pablo on 10/15 @ 8:50 pm #
I’ve got an ex-gf that looks a lot like Cindy McCain. I like Cindy McCain anyway.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:51 pm #
Yeah BBH. I don’t think think the Nobel people need any still shots of that herd of gerties.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:51 pm #
Charles
Obama only wins if we give up and let him. The pounding against ACORN needs to continue. Republicans have to both turn out the vote and then have lawyers ready to counter Obama’s brownshirts.
Obama was so disengenuous tonight my normally calm husband wanted to throw something at the tv.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:52 pm #
I’ve got an ex-wife that looks like Sarah Palin Pab’s, so I know what you mean.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 8:52 pm #
It’s not easy to grind Chicago Annenberg Challenge into voter-digestible pablum.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:53 pm #
Frank is fat, Al, what’s with the make?
True. But just think if he was sportin’ a big ole pair of Walt Fraziers. It might create a slimming effect.
Comment by Diana on 10/15 @ 8:53 pm #
It’s not easy being green.
Comment by charles austin on 10/15 @ 8:53 pm #
Darleen, I know you’d like to believe that but McCain is down about 2 million ACORN votes already.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 8:54 pm #
Now you’re just trying to make me cry, Al. Cut it out.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 8:55 pm #
“$150 million dollars of school improvement money funneled to communists” works for me, Ana.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 8:55 pm #
oh. Now the NPR crone is punching the word bickering a lot. They must have focused grouped that.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 8:55 pm #
Krauthammer calls it a win for Obama.
Somehow I’m not surprised.
Comment by psycho... on 10/15 @ 8:58 pm #
That type needs a lot of head-patting.
There were about forty Obama ads during that Vermeer thing I was watching instead of the debate. For who?
“There there, art-related entertainment consumer. You are, now as ever, here as everywhere, unchallenged. Sugarplums.“
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 8:58 pm #
It’s not easy to grind Chicago Annenberg Challenge into voter-digestible pablum.
Especially those Luntz Munchers.
“He make good words. Me hear money. O(mumble) be good boss of country.”
Comment by Another Rovian Conspiracy - St Wendeler on 10/15 @ 8:58 pm #
CNN – Obama rocks
MSNBC – OBama rocks!
Fox News – McCain let some fat pitches go by…
BTW, does anyone think the “focus groups” that are covered post-debate are anything resembling a focus group? Sure, Frank Luntz & Co could get straight answers out of a focus group in a closed room with a 1-way mirror…. but when the TV cameras are pointed at the folks and they know that their reaction to every phrase is shaping the election?
Shameless plug below:
Joe the Plumber T-Shirts here…
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 8:59 pm #
Obama lied about taking public financing, the MSM is blatantly in the tank for him, the economy is bad and Obama tries to tie McCain to Bush at every opportunity, out spends in tv ad 7-1
So why isn’t The One 20 or more points ahead?
He’ll only win by cheating.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 9:00 pm #
- All I can say is:
“RUDI, WHY DID YOU LISTEN TO THAT IDIOT POLITICAL ADVISOR!”
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 9:00 pm #
Obama didn’t even deny the $800K ACORN thing, as I recall. A little weasling, but no direct denial. The transcript will tell the tale.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/15 @ 9:02 pm #
“He look right at me and tell me nice that house and school and dead babies be all right.”
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 9:02 pm #
So, how are the Phillies doin’?
Comment by happyfeet on 10/15 @ 9:03 pm #
NPR is establishing its narrative is all they do anymore. A lot of it I think is based on influentials theory, where they fancy they aggregate an audience of opinion leaders. It’s not feckless. Rich and white and tenured is their audience.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 9:06 pm #
If Romney or Guiliani was there…much different.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 9:08 pm #
- I agree with Williams. McCain missed his chance to really hammer the people behind this whole economic meltdown. Give them Frank and All the other bugs behind FMFM, but he didn’t do it, so hes lost yet another chance.
Comment by Clint on 10/15 @ 9:11 pm #
5-1 bottom 8th
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/15 @ 9:12 pm #
Well at least we know western PA will vote McCain. hahahahaha.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 9:12 pm #
An Instapundit reader:
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 9:13 pm #
BBH, I still contend that the debate was not a viable forum for the FM^2 discussion. It is too complex for the average person… and probably not someone who was watching the debate in the first place. Sure, meat for the loyal, but there has to be a better way.
Viral works well.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 9:17 pm #
Even Fox is in the tank now, maybe trying to get some cred in the new reality.:
Hume: I think Reagan himself could have been in McCains place, and it wouldn’t have mattered
Cole: McCain teh SUXXOR!!!!
Kristol: Why would I want to vote for McCain? (accompanied with shrugging shoulders and confused expression)
General consensus: We don’t really even need an election.
And this is the dreaded right wing propaganda department?
sashal is right about one thing…Sometimes I am embarrassed as a Republican. Aren’t fascists supposed to be efficient with these things?
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 9:17 pm #
I’m watching the Washington State gubernatorial debate – we’re hoping the Dems won’t steal the election here AGAIN this time…
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 9:17 pm #
- I’ve said I could live with O! in the WH for 4 lousy years, and America won’t perish under His rein. Maybe 4 years from now some of the Republican front runners will decide to actually get in the game.
- Romney is on FOX sleep walking.
- On the other hand, a lot of people thought McCain was a zombie way back in the primaries, and he proved them wrong. So who knows.
Comment by Ana on 10/15 @ 9:19 pm #
Yeah. You really do have two elections going on. Most people just want to know when the pony is going to show up.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 9:19 pm #
Oh, Jeff – Ouch! At least O! didn’t break any of his bones…
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 9:20 pm #
lee
Remember when the MSM used to decry the “corrupting influence of money” in campaigns?
Obama is swimming in dollars and NOT A PEEP.
McCain isn’t just running against Obama, he’s running against a Historical Image(tm) and almost the whole of the MSM that calls any criticism of The One “racism”.
I think it is remarkable he’s still within striking distance.
Comment by ccoffer on 10/15 @ 9:24 pm #
Wasn’t Carter ahead of Reagan in October of 1980? I’m pretty sure he was.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 9:26 pm #
ccoffer
At this time in the Reagan/Carter run they hadn’t even had their first debate.
A Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate will usher in a new Carter era. In 4 years, if America hasn’t been absorbed into the EU, you’ll see a Palin/Jindal ticket.
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 9:27 pm #
Ann Coulter reminds on polls…
Comment by Ric Locke on 10/15 @ 9:29 pm #
Y’know, I think I’ll go dig through my bookcase and read Space Viking again. Zaspar Makann wins…
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 9:33 pm #
- I think McCain made some good points but didn’t follow up enough, Overall this was his best performance.
- One thing we can be pretty sure of, Obama is going to need a sizable lead going into election day. If the spread, which is probably somewhere around 4 -6 points right now, stays that low McCain may pull it out.
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Comment by TmjUtah on 10/15 @ 9:36 pm #
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Not too shabby for a debate in this day and age.
CBS ignored Rather and Mapes long enough to destroy their credibility as even MSM.
What happens to MSM if they ignore ACORN? The story is too big. And three weeks is too long.
Except for NPR. But then, I pay for them.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/15 @ 9:41 pm #
Mega congrats to the Phils and their fans. Let ole Joe Torre wait another year. Don’t get cocky though Phillies people, the Ray’s have got some serious stuff for ya’s.
Comment by Rich Cox on 10/15 @ 9:52 pm #
I hate the AL. Almost as much as goats.
Comment by Clint on 10/15 @ 9:52 pm #
Sdferr, the Rays may have it goin’ on this year, but the BoSox aren’t out yet. Shall we recall last year’s ALCS?
Comment by MC on 10/15 @ 9:59 pm #
Rossi mopped Gregoire in the Washington State debate – and, hey, there’s not after spin. So I get to decide. Cool.
Comment by thor on 10/15 @ 10:02 pm #
Punkage, ownage, Obamaged!
Comment by thor on 10/15 @ 10:11 pm #
A bunch of you are being put out to pasture, you old creepy freepers.
Just a reminder.
O! is the 1!
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 10:19 pm #
- Wheres thor-boi – He’s always such a gracious loser.
- Well loser anyway.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 10:22 pm #
O should be ahead by 20-30 points. He can’t get there even with almost every single mainstream media outfit whoring for him. Even with outspending McCain 7 to 1. Even with illegal foreign contributions, with ACORN registering millions of fraudulent voters, with activists assaulting Republicans and hate-filled mendacious articles against him, even with the One’s blatant lying about taxes, Ayers, his record and his rabid mentally challenged followers screaming “racist” at any criticism of The One’s Holy Pronouncements.
He’s a fraud. A suave, elegant, elitist, socialist fraud who will plunge this country into recession.
If nothing else, the Republicans will sweep back into power in 2 to 4 years after this fraud does Jimmy Carter II. Palin/Jindal 2012 will drink his milkshake.
Comment by thror on 10/15 @ 10:25 pm #
I will now proceed to fellate the ONE!
Oh wait – been there, done that…
Comment by thor on 10/15 @ 10:27 pm #
More excuses than a nun whose period is three months late.
It’s as I said it was.
The Man’s too big. The Man’s too strong.
Comment by SteveG on 10/15 @ 10:27 pm #
Thank god no OODA loop references made it through my filter.
john McCain is an American hero… but he is a dolt when it come to a national campaign and at times seems to be a political coward who is afraid to get in there and get a little mud and blood on everyone involved
That said, I am tired of those polls that reference registered voters, likely voters without mentioning whether or not those same voters are actually eligible to vote
Comment by thor on 10/15 @ 10:29 pm #
Knock, knock
Who’s there?
The Recession
Recession who?
The Recession we’ve been in the last 12-months you dumb ____!
Comment by JWebb on 10/15 @ 10:33 pm #
For many years now, I have been caregiver for a very sweet elderly mother with progressive senile (vascular) dementia. Whenever her mind or frail body failed her, I would remind her of our new motto – “Screw It,” a phrase that has special impact coming from a deeply Christian, upright seasoned citizen from the Depression Era. After watching the debate tonight, she turned to me and said, “We need to change our motto to ‘We are so screwed.’” From the mouth of babes…
Comment by SevenEleventy on 10/15 @ 10:34 pm #
O! got spanked by a plummer – ownage!
Comment by SevenEleventy on 10/15 @ 10:36 pm #
“For many years now, I have been caregiver for a very sweet elderly mother with progressive senile (vascular) dementia.”
Must be contagious!
Comment by SteveG on 10/15 @ 10:38 pm #
Oh yeah,
Before anyone takes me to the woodshed over calling McCain a coward, I’d ask that they look at how McCain has handled this stand against Obama. blame the media, blame everyone else, but the truth is that McCain when challenged has opted for collegiality and has sent a woman out to do the tough hacking.
Good luck in November.
Note to John… if you want to win, fight hard until death. If you want to lose…. well you seem to be doing just fine
Comment by JWebb on 10/15 @ 10:43 pm #
SevenEleventy – Just for the record, the sweet elderly demented one was referring to BOTH candidates. Also for the record, Fuck You.
Comment by thor on 10/15 @ 10:50 pm #
I second that “Fuck You!”
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 10/15 @ 11:05 pm #
From Gateway Pundit; “A Frank Luntz focus group on FOX News agreed that Barack Obama won the debate but they still don’t trust him and won’t vote for him.”
Video at Youtube
So you think he is mendacious and untrustworthy but believed his answers enough to have him win?
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/15 @ 11:06 pm #
- Here’s the obligatory “shut up thor-boi”, just in case he’s out there lurking somewhere playing with his teenie weenie.
Comment by SevenEleventy on 10/15 @ 11:07 pm #
Then you misunderstood my intent. I apologize if it came off wrong.
Comment by JWebb on 10/15 @ 11:13 pm #
I guess I did misunderstand, SevenEleventy. No apologies necessary and I apologize for my response. My stamina is scraped pretty thin these days… Courage. (Heh)
Comment by McGehee on 10/15 @ 11:15 pm #
I would rather remember him for putting the first Alaskan in the vice-presidency, if I had to choose between one and the other.
Comment by SevenEleventy on 10/15 @ 11:22 pm #
JWebb, I do wish you and you patient well. I’ll choose my words more carefully next time.
And thor, you do know I hold your “fuck you” in the highest regard. It means as much to me as a undigested corn kernel lodged in a turd floating in an unflushed toilet.
Comment by sashal on 10/15 @ 11:22 pm #
# 740.
pure insanity
Comment by SevenEleventy on 10/15 @ 11:28 pm #
*an undigested corn kernel*
Damn!
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 11:37 pm #
#757
It takes one to know one!
I know, I know, but look who I’m talking to…
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 11:41 pm #
Someone doesn’t know the definition of “recession”
McCain was right… the last president in an economic downturn who decided to “cure it” with tax hikes and trade protections was Herbert Hoover.
then the next president, FDR, deepened and lengthened the Depression with his arbitrary policies.
It wasn’t the depth of the Depression but the length of it that was so devestating…taking a World War to get America out of it. FDR was a man who would decide what the interest rate would be awakeninging in the morning and contemplating his breakfast.
What isn’t explained as Obama whined cynically about the “unraveling of employer based healthcare” was the history how that came about… during WWII when heavy wage and price controls plus close to confiscatory corporate taxes, companies had to have some way to attract and maintain workers. VOILA, offering healthcare was a loophole.
But that means to keep your healthcare you are tied to your job. Healthcare should be portable and along the lines of auto insurance or home insurance. A person should be able to shop all sorts of insurance instruments across states. THAT would bring down the cost and make all manner of policies available.
Obama wants Canada care here. Way to just kill off the seniors. But that way he can also confiscate years of their accumulated estates through a reinstituted death tax.
The Greatest Generation is dying off and Obama is going to grave rob them.
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 11:43 pm #
you are so fucked. ACORN is a non-story and is being ignored by everyone for good reason. Sorry bout your luck, assholes.
By the way, anybody here know how I might get Al Franken’s tongue out of my ass?
Don’t ask.
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 11:45 pm #
oh Darleen, your perfect mind fails you yet again.
Oh. And about the Al Franken tongue thing? Nevermind. I’m starting to get the hang of this, I think.
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 11:48 pm #
I’d act like a pissy little bitch too if I were you.
And by “you,” I mean Al Franken’s tongue. Come on you little pick devil. Get petulant with it!
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 11:50 pm #
hoot
Refute with facts anything I’ve said.
The death tax will be back with Obama. For each senior that owns their own house, a car or two, some stock and jewelry, the kids will have to sell it to pay off Obama.
Obama, the ghoul, will grave rob WWII vets and their families to SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND.
Comment by Darleen on 10/15 @ 11:51 pm #
Jesse Jackson is so assured of his “family member” Obama as President, he’s gone all Hymietown anti-Semitic, telling everyone that the Jew-controlled policies of America will be at an end.
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 11:54 pm #
you are truly an idiot who knows only her precious talking points. “grave rob the WWII vets”. Christ. Who ran up our current deficit, genius? Our kids are already going to pay for Bush’s decisions. No more, thank you.
No sir. Give me the fiscal discipline of socialism. That’s the ticket, boys. ALL ABOARD THE GRAVY TRAIN!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 11:56 pm #
ACORN is a non-story and is being ignored by everyone for good reason.
Felony charges in Michigan.
State RICO charges in Ohio.
Joint task force of state and federal officials, including the FBI, in Nevada.
State probe in Indiana.
ACORN throwing its own founder under the bus.
Investigation ramping up in Wisconsin.
Yeah, everyone is “ignoring” it, all right.
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 11:57 pm #
BTW, nice wingtard revisionist history where FDR is one of history’s greatest monsters, outdone only by Jimmy Carter. Any other pearls up there in that ole noggin of yours?
Oh, and speaking of pearls, I believe Al Franken just left me a nice new necklace!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 11:58 pm #
Tell us again how everyone is “ignoring” ACORN, hoot.
That was a good one.
Comment by lee on 10/15 @ 11:58 pm #
Wait, we never had a deficit before Bush?
That BASTARD!!
Comment by hoot on 10/15 @ 11:58 pm #
Oh, get back to me when these suddenly important ACORN investigations get anywhere. You have until Nov 4th.
Whereas Al Franken’s tongue can apparently make it through Easter and still have enough left in it to suck the creme out of a Cadbury egg.
WOOT!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/15 @ 11:59 pm #
You have until Nov 4th.
Haven’t heard of impeachment, I see.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:01 am #
IMPEACH! Ha! Classic. Good luck with that one, scooter.
The people will revolt against the law! The One transcends your puny terrestrial legislations. He shall RULE UNTIL HE DIES!
Or until Al Franken’s tongue falls out. But I’m betting on the former.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:01 am #
Good luck with that one, scooter.
Tell it to Clinton, skippy.
And all he did was lie about a blow job.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:02 am #
I’ll add that America will be much better when you crybaby egotists are pushed out to the fringes. We’ll finally be able to get our national healing on!
Me and Al’s tongue have a nice headstart, though, I must say.
YOU’VE PUT YOUR PEANUT BUTTER IN MY CHOCOLATE!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:03 am #
By the way, ignoramus: the next President of the United States won’t be elected until December 15.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:04 am #
yes, and Clinton’s impeachment is now regarded as a partisan witch hunt without merit. Want to place bets on how an Obama impeachment over ACORN will go over? I heartily suggest you push this, however.
BECAUSE THE PEOPLE — AND AL FRANKEN’S TONGUE — DEMAND THAT O! REMAIN ABOVE THE LAW.
Like Nixon!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:06 am #
Clinton’s impeachment is now regarded as a partisan witch hunt without merit
According to you.
It’s still on the record, nonetheless.
Want to place bets on how an Obama impeachment over ACORN will go over?
Massive voter fraud? Yeah, that’s going to go over well, ignoramus.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:07 am #
fringe wackos aside, the election will be over November 4th. The margin will be too great to overcome with bullshit lawsuits. It will merely make the GOP look like the whiny fools they have become.
Unlike me. Who can bang away on my keyboard while Al Franken does tongue laps around my sphincter — and never once let out a yelp!
…
yelp!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:08 am #
The margin will be too great to overcome with bullshit lawsuits.
1) No, it won’t.
2) The President isn’t elected by popular vote. Never has been, never will be.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:08 am #
“Massive voter fraud”? Fucking. Hilarious. How many times does the difference between registrations and votes need to be explained to you? It isn’t hard, really. Even for a proteinwisdom regular.
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT THEY ARE JUST ENGAGING IN ALL THAT PHONY REGISTRATION AS PRACTICE FOR WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO THE REAL REGISTRATIONING! Like, duh…
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:10 am #
. How many times does the difference between registrations and votes need to be explained to you?
How many times are you going to repeat the same fucktarded talking point?
Sticking a gun in your pants and walking into a bank wearing a mask isn’t bank robbery either, but good luck with the jury on that one.
So, what’s the purpose of the fraudulent registrations, ignoramus?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:11 am #
By the way, my compliments to whoever is clarifying hoot’s comments.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:12 am #
um, to get money out of ACORN? How many votes were cast with ANY previous ACORN related questionable registrations, jackass? You just don’t get it, though it is very simple.
THE ABSENCE OF PROOF IS PROOF OF ABSENCE! Christ, reichwingnuttiaubermensch. Study your Conan Doyle.
Or is it 21 Jump Street? Quick, Al Franken’s tongue. Get Richard Greco on the line, stat!
Comment by MC on 10/16 @ 12:12 am #
JWebb – you rock!
I mean for a world famous composer and all…
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 10/16 @ 12:13 am #
How’s that indentured servitude doing there hooty. If your O! wins it’s going to last a lot longer than that 3 month hitch you expect. Ask Bill and Bernie about how sleeping on couches and basements gets to you after a year or so.
So many fun years ahead for you “Camp Obama Special Junior Community Organizers”. Do they give you gold stars yet or just the lovely rainbow stickers for your “Special Community Organizer Notebooks”?
Ah, the joys of being young and ignorant. The years will just fly past.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:13 am #
So, what’s the purpose of the fraudulent registrations, ignoramus?
Come on, hoot. I’m sure there’s some perfectly reasonable explanation for those tens of thousands of fraudulent registrations.
Tell us what it is.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:14 am #
um, to get money out of ACORN?
ACORN denies paying piecework rates, ignoramus.
Try harder.
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:14 am #
so much homophobia, almost as if… nah, there’s no way a closeted Republican would EVER pretend to be manly and straight. Never happens.
Me, on the other hand, am quite proud to admit that I can carry on a debate with Al Franken’s tongue planted firmly in my rectum like some sort of delightful, twirly iPod made from flesh.
Ooh! Was that Def Leppard I just felt…?
Comment by hoot on 10/16 @ 12:16 am #
Oh no. Wingtards DEMAND ANSWERS! Or else they might cry. Let me get right on that for you guys.
(Just kidding, by the way. I have no intention of trying to come up with an answer. Did I fool you? Be straight with me. I can take it. In fact –)
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:16 am #
Ah yes. The old “‘homophobes’ are secretly gay” chestnut.
Just like all KKK members are secretly black, and all ACORN members are secret anti-communists.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:17 am #
Wingtards DEMAND ANSWERS!
It’s clear that you don’t have any answers, ignoramus.
Hope you haven’t done any ACORN work, son. You DO know that RICO charges don’t depend on overt acts, right? Merely working for the organization is enough.
Comment by Darleen on 10/16 @ 12:20 am #
hoot
did I say FDR was a “monster”? No, I related FACTS about the Depression. FDR personally PERSONALLY set interest rates. Employer based healthcare came about because companies were NOT ALLOWED to offer hirer wages to attract workers. Hoover ushered in the Depression with the wrong policies, FDR lengthened it with his.
The Greatest Generation, the one before the Boomers, the ones that worked their whole lives, paid their taxes, saved, paid off their mortgages, put away money for retirement
Obama’s death taxes will devestate them.
Own it hoot. Obama and the rest of you Leftists are ghouls. Someone dies, you are ready to swoop in and take the gold filling from their molars.
Comment by Darleen on 10/16 @ 12:22 am #
So, what’s the purpose of the fraudulent registrations, ignoramus?
DOS, fuckwit. ala Alinsky
Comment by Darleen on 10/16 @ 12:29 am #
Leftists are ghouls — Steal from the dead, infanticide, euthanisia, eugenics… Arbeit Macht Frei!
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 10/16 @ 12:29 am #
I bet hoot has one of those extra special rightwingnut “code word” decoder rings. Free in every box of “Special O!” cereal. Breakfast of Community Organizers everywhere.
Comment by pdbuttons on 10/16 @ 12:31 am #
franken got tung?
franken got brain?
bolts in his neck…
big slippers?
it’s funny[kinda] how much one can afford when they don’t pay taxes
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:31 am #
Hope you haven’t done any ACORN work, son. You DO know that RICO charges don’t depend on overt acts, right?
hoot?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/16 @ 12:38 am #
What happened to hoot? Did he get a sudden urge to start shredding all his ACORN pay stubs or somepin’?
Comment by sashal on 10/16 @ 12:43 am #
For Wingnuttia the explanations for the disaster will be legion: McCain ran a terrible campaign, he wasn’t a real conservative, the Palin pick was ridiculous, the MSM was once again horribly horribly unfair, the Democrats made the stock market tank — in short every explanation but the real one, which is that, after a generation of success, the powers that be in the GOP have gotten sealed off in their own little fantasy world. It’s a world in which “real Americans” care deeply about things like Bill Ayers, and flag pins, and crypto-Muslim terrorists, and hockey moms, and the Incredible Success of the Surge ™, and activist courts spreading teh gay. Unfortunately “real Americans” now make up about 25% of the population, and the proportion is shrinking by the day.
Comment by Pellegri on 10/16 @ 1:20 am #
What, and fake Americans care about national healing(tm), healthcare as a right, and making sure life is fair for everyone?
C’mon, sashal. What’s worth voting about in the other 75% of America that you aren’t talking about?
Comment by JWebb on 10/16 @ 1:27 am #
Thanks, MC. Will be at Cutting Room, NY Nov. 8. Come if you can.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 10/16 @ 4:40 am #
Late to the party, as usual.
Although McDoDo didn’t exactly kick ass last night, I did get the feeling that, while he was rolling up his skirt, there was a hint of a testicle on his body.
Comment by Rusty on 10/16 @ 4:50 am #
#748
Then again maybe he’s just an honorable man.
Comment by Rusty on 10/16 @ 4:56 am #
#766
You think it’s bad now? “O” are you in for a very rude awakening.
You want to give socialism a try? I’d rather have a heat wave in Chicago. Less bodies.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/16 @ 4:59 am #
“I don’t mind paying a little more.”
–BHO
What does the POTUS pay in taxes?
I don’t mind paying a little more, but no charity. That’s just too “Hey look at me!”
Comment by alppuccino on 10/16 @ 5:01 am #
Obama gives hoot exactly what he needs: Less reason to get off his ass.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/16 @ 5:09 am #
- 60’s and 70’s American Lefturd politics – redux, brought to you by the shiftless spawn of their love child hippy dippy parents.
- WonderBoy is dangling that “free college tuition” Easter egg like catnip to a tabby, and the wet behind the ears punk crowd is lapping it up.
- Their entire passion for politics is simple self interest. Same as sashal, the aimless wandering Socialist.
- They’re a-struttin’ and q-crowin’, just like the fat broiler that doesn’t see the axe just before it falls. Fuck ‘em. Let ‘rm learn the hard way.
Comment by Pellegri on 10/16 @ 5:13 am #
–there is a reason why I spent so much time fantasizing about being a glorious death machine in a fantasy world.
At least politics there has teeth.
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Comment by happyfeet on 10/16 @ 7:51 am #
Bob Schieffer’s mother is sort of a loon I think.
Comment by MAJ (P) John on 10/16 @ 9:54 am #
“Comment by Pellegri on 10/16 @ 5:13 am #
–there is a reason why I spent so much time fantasizing about being a glorious death machine in a fantasy world.
At least politics there has teeth.”
Pellegri – I have been rather mixed up in death and politics mixing, the last few years. It rather makes me sad. All I can think of is the Hezb’ i-Islami Gulbuddin and Hekmatyar Gulbuddin. What was a parliamentary party in Afghanistan turned into a continuing death cult in Hekmatyar’s evil hands.
I also get sad when I see the commentary of people like hoot, sashal, et al. The hate is so out of place in the US. I hate very little – Hekmatyar, I hate him. AQ, I hate them. I do not hate Sen Obama. I do not hate those that will vote for him. Why should they be so enraged at so much?
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Comment by Rusty on 10/16 @ 4:47 pm #
#815
Dave. Even if Obama wins, you’ll still be a pathetic loser.
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