A few days back, in response to Jimmie at Sundries Shack and Stacy McCain of the Washington Times, I suggested that, from a strategic standpoint, the McCain campaign might have been waiting to use Sarah Palin as the key attack dog — the upshot being that she draws more elitist fire (jokes about breeder hicks seem to play poorly in Peoria), that the Obama campaign and their media arm concentrates their attentions on her, and that McCain gets to look “Presidential” by remaining above the fray.
At the time, this strategem seemed to some far-fetched, I suppose because they didn’t think Palin’s attacks would carry much weight given her unpreparedness for office.
But it seems her performance in the VP debate has restored both confidence in her abilities and the public’s faith in her competence — which allows her to go on the offensive thusly:
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is accusing Democrat Barack Obama of “palling around with terrorists” for his association with a former 1960s radical.
Palin was referring to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. The group took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol four decades ago.
In remarks to GOP donors in Englewood, Colo., on Saturday, Palin said Obama seems to see the U.S. as being so imperfect that, in her words, “he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”
Obama served on a charity board with Ayers in Chicago and has denounced his past activities.
Leaving aside the mitigation of the connection between Obama and Ayers as it is tacked onto the end of the story — and the mitigation of Ayers’ own terrorism (“nonfatal”; of course, Ms Dohrne practically threw a party for the Manson family, but we’ll let that slide, as well) — I suspect that, with Palin beginning to make public mentions, the press will be forced to cover the story (in such a way, as my last post indicates, that covers for Obama, as well).
Still, my guess is there are many voters who are only now really starting to pay attention to the election, and — unlike those of us in the blogosphere who have already decided how much importance to grant to Obama’s past and present associations — those voters will be finding out about some of these connections for the first time.
Everything the VP candidate says is news. So she can literally push these potential scandals into the news cycle. And wouldn’t that be gratifying, having herself weathered the storm of tanning beds and teenage daughters…
(h/t Spies, who has more over at the Pub, including a link to the “unspun” version of Palin’s remarks)
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update: CNN’s take. Most of our concern trolls seem to be coming from there.
Kurtz responds:
A CNN article on Sarah Palin’s criticism of Barack Obama’s relationship to unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers actually cites National Review as one of the publications supposedly debunking Palin’s point. How CNN can cite National Review this way is a mystery to me. Maybe we’ll have to set up an NR “truth squad.”
I was very briefly on CNN immediately after the McCain campaign called for me to be given access to UIC library. A CNN reporter interviewed me, and almost every question was an attempt to challenge the significance of the Obama-Ayers link. I answered every query in detail. When the report finally aired, my points about the significance of the Obama-Ayers connection were cut. And now, CNN is actually claiming NR as an ally in its effort to undercut Palin. Incredible.
Well, in fairness, Rich Brookhiser and a few others have certainly helped them along in that regard, Stanley.
YES.
I want to see nothing but Palin for the next 30 days, beating Obama into the dust on every dirty relationship he’s got.
There’s now an unspun-by-AP version at The Corner.
May take a little while to get in, their site is getting hammered right now.
Well, there goes that Palin again. Doesn’t she read the New York Times? They’ve already explored this issue completely and found absolutely nothing that can’t be airbrushed or repeatedly denied away.
Little people, what are we ever to do with them?
Sarah Palin is a RACIST!!!!
– We’ll have to see if the electorate, particularly Independents like myself, buy your spin cycle Semidouche.
Also, a pig.
*snicker*chuckle*wink*
Does this mean Obama will now begin touting his executive experience gained running the CAC?
That’s pretty weak.â€Â
This seems compelling:
Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.
Obama must have had some obligation to Ayers, no?
– BTW. Anybody else think OJ looked like an unapologetic smartass in his court appearances. That seemed to hold up well until the verdict was returned. At that point he looked like he would break into tears.
– Ana Nichole and Ron were unavailable for comment.
I guess some people really do have a need to be ruled over.
Semicolon obviously hates women. If McCain-Palin lose this election, it can only be attributable to the misogeny of Democrats.
I hope next time someone disparages Sarahs pedigree, she says some variation of “Laugh about Alaska if you want, but I never saw Bill Ayres in MY neighborhood.”
Jaysus, if Charlie himself was outta the slam, Obama would have been his pal, too. You know, for the cool radical glow.
I despair over Semanticleo. How does such a person not have its’ own nurse to make sure the meds don’t get all mixed up?
I never saw Bill Ayres in MY neighborhood.
Or any neighborhood for that matter.
I know about Ayres not from newspapers and magazines, or first hand knowledge, but from Protein Wisdom!
First, we know that Obama is not tied to William Ayers in any meaningful way. I know Palin struggles to keep up with current events, but her attacks are obviously and demonstrably wrong.
Second, the McCain campaign is surprisingly transparent in its desperation. Faced with daunting challenges here and abroad, McCain, Palin, and their team of Bushies have decided they’d lose if voters have issues and substance on their minds. They’re left with lies, personal attacks, and bogus smears. It’s surprisingly pathetic.
Third, does Palin really want to play the guilt-by-association game? Isn’t she married to someone who joined a fringe political party that wants to secede from the United States? Didn’t she attend a church where a literal witchdoctor laid hands on her?
The truth is, running for national office in a time of war and crisis is difficult. It takes real courage, strength, and character to challenge voters to weigh the seriousness of the moment, and make a decision about our collective fate based on substance.
And therein lies the point about the McCain/Palin campaign: we’re dealing with a team that lacks courage, strength, and character. Running away from the issues, deceiving voters, cynically distracting the public are all signs of political cowardice.
The McCain campaign hit the bottom of the barrel a while ago, but they figured out a way to dig a hole in the barrel, fall through, and scrounge around underneath it.
McCain was given a choice: lose his honor or lose the election. He’s clearly made his decision, but if there’s any justice, he’s about to lose both.
Sashal, you really need to be a little more subtle with the talking points. Try to slip them in, like a dagger, not pound them, like an old bolshevik’s shoe.
Nice cut and paste job sashal. Care to leave a link next time?
oh, we know stuff. That’s always a good sign.
Obama said, sashal believes it, that settles it.
Here is the link sashal didn’t leave to a piece in the WashingtonMonthly by Steve Benen.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
Third, does Palin really want to play the guilt-by-association game? Isn’t she married to someone who joined a fringe political party that wants to secede from the United States?
No, not with the false characterization of the party you use
Didn’t she attend a church where a literal witchdoctor laid hands on her?
I would need to see proof and context with that one.
And therein lies the point about the McCain/Palin campaign: we’re dealing with a team that lacks courage, strength, and character. Running away from the issues, deceiving voters, cynically distracting the public are all signs of political cowardice
And there my friends, stands a strawman, wobbling on a foundation of begging the question.
Lee you might want to direct your fire for Steve Benen of the WashingtonMonthly.
(jokes about breeder hicks seem to play poorly in Peoria)
The Dems are at a loss as to how to counter Gov. Palin and her over-the-media’s-heads connection to the public. How do you fight someone who looks like she just stepped out of a fabric softener commercial?
Didn’t she attend a church where a literal witchdoctor laid hands on her?
That sounds like a multi-culti stunt in a blue state, formerly mainline protestant church.
sashal: First, we know that Obama is not tied to William Ayers in any meaningful way.
Really? If McCain had gotten his introduction to politics in the home of a former abortion clinic bomber, I imagine you would think there to be a rather tangible link.
sashal: does Palin really want to play the guilt-by-association game? Isn’t she married to someone who joined a fringe political party that wants to secede from the United States? Didn’t she attend a church where a literal witchdoctor laid hands on her?
From what I’ve seen, false and false. Which would mean, on its face, that Obama and Biden are dealing in the same desperate shlock that you accuse McCain and Palin of dealing in.
sashal, if you’re gonna try and make an argument, make an argument. Approaching this like some plaid-jacketed used car salesman using the “presumed close” approach is just too easy to poke holes in.
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you might want to direct your fire for Steve Benen of the WashingtonMonthly.
I was just responding to ideas posted in the comments here.
Whoever has those ideas really…
sashal, you know that guy. That guy who borrorws his ideas from everyone else and doesn’t have a single orginal thought in his head.
Don’t be that guy.
Or at least put some effort into it. Of course who am I fooling, why would any marxist ever feel any sense of pride of ownership.
Carry on.
Yeah it is pretty sad when a simple google search turns up plagerism. Well what can you expect from someone that is voting for a ticket with Biden on it.
Oh, yeah, a tangent: SO this one girl at work thinks the oceans will stop rising and the birds will increase a thousand-fold if the O is elected. She also goes on and on about Trig and also about how unqualified Palin is. So I asked her, “Hey, wouldn’t you like a woman president? Well, why not Michelle Obama? She has a law degree. At her Diversity job, she organizes and stuff for the local community. Why isn’t she qualified enough to be president?”
Chick thought I wasn’t being serious…
It seems that a few jangly nerves have been well hit after the appearance of the lame Times piece.
oh, and maybee shows up in the comments under that first link.
There’s now an unspun-by-AP version at The Corner.
That’s some gooooood shit there, amigo. And, with just a month to go, Palin’s going to have plenty of material to throw at Da Lawd: Ayers, Dohrn, Wright, Daley, Rezko, the New Party, ACORN….fuck, talk about target-rich environments!
When Cotton Candy doesn’t work Sling Mud. LIE,LIE,LIE. She failed at the debates doing nothing but wink and tease and play cutesy little junior high school flirt on the podium and even went against McCain without answering questions or laying out a plan. McCain’s VP is pure Cotton Candy and since not all of us are Joe SixPack frat boys who have a crush on her, we’re going with a team that is united and has substance – Obama and Biden. Palin has her own agenda she’s already making plans contrary to McCain but they sure are united focusing on tabloid lies and not the issues. That’s because they have no plans or solutions. Welcome to McCain/Palin ticket…the LOW ROAD EXPRESS..here we go again.
It’s time to take off the lipstick, put on a muzzle and run for the bridge to no where!
Reelecting Bush made us blind, electing McCain and Palin would make us plain old stupid. Thank God we’re not!
*snort*
oh wait… you’re serious?
what might this substance be? BS.
The one that killed little Billy’s buddies was decidely fatal.
Where’s the “LIE,LIE,LIE,” CnC?
I guess this is how you can tell the Repubs know they’re losing.
Oh yeah Sarah. I will not be surprised if tomorrow you will tell the American people that Sen. Obama killed President Lincoln just to win this election. Please say the truth. You are insulting the intelligence of the American people, republicans and democrats alike. I know at this point you are a desperate housewife because you and McNoShame can feel and smell defeat. ENOUGH OF DIRTY POLITICS!!! We Americans know that the people of Alaska are better than that.
The one that killed little Billy’s buddies was decidely fatal.
I love that bomb. America was improved by its premature detonation.
Moby! Glad you could make it!
alright, who linked this?
My exact thought, Maggie
By the way I want to congratulate Sarah on her debate with Biden. You can memorize very very well. CONGRAT!!! But please next time answer the question of the moderator because if you don’t it is not good to see and hear. Ok….
Thanks for playing, Al!
much better than Biden at least. tell us again about Katie’s, Joe! or how bout that time Obama didn’t say he would meet with Ajad without preconditions. I lurve that one.
CLEAN COAL!
How desperate can you get! What a slim-0ball!!!
Hezbollah was just like Meals on Wheels before Boooosh!
Maggie Bridge to Nowhere?
Maggie troopergate?
For those of you who are uneducated on the facts of history, the Weathermen members were the most violent radicals at the time and responsible for a lot of domestic bombing and violence in this country at that time. Old dogs do not change their spots and you are as naive and stupid as Obama if you blieve these are just innocent people getting a bad rap or that they have changed in their mission to destroy this country. There is a saying that it is better to appear dumb than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. When you speak in favor of these terrorists it just proves that you are stupid and uneducated. Anyone who lived during this time period knows the Weather men were the most radical and violent of all the groups, getting older has NOT changed these terrorist, they are just more sophisticated at manipulating the stupid and naive.
Maggie Bridge to Nowhere?
How’d O’Biden vote on that little project, Al?
Maggie, my friend ask me is Sarah intelligent. I answered she is beatiful. Then he asked me again is Sarah intelligent I answere again oh yes she is beautiful.
Maggie troopergate?
Obiden stands for the rights of drunken troopers tasing 11 year olds!!
Barbara you must 100 years old now, right? You are good in history maybe you are also a member of the Weathermen. Hahahaha…hi grandma!!!
Al Ram Tony Rezko?
Al Ram Rev. Wright?
Al’s a deep thinker who clearly needs a diary over at Kos.
Maggie…. persons can be beautiful but if persons has nothing between their ears….it could ugly….ugly….ugly…
Al Ram…Hi nishi *groan*
Maggie….how about McNoShame and Keating of the Loan and Savings fiasco…
Maggie…. persons can be beautiful but if persons has nothing between their ears….it could ugly….ugly….ugly…
I hear the plangent wail of the voice of experience.
PALIN IS GETTIN SCARED AND NOW SHE’S TRYING TO TAKE PEOPLE ATTENTION OFF HOW BAD THE ECONOMY IS WITH THIS BULL!! COME ON THE MAN WAS 8YRS OLD. SO NOW ITS SMEAR TIME HUH? FOR THE MCCAIN CAMPAIN TO EVEN TAKE IT THERE WAS JUST IGNORANT! DO THEY THINK IF THEY BEGIN THIS SMEAR CAMPAINING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RESPOND TO THIS NEGATIVE KIND OF ATTACKS. OUR COUNTRY IS STIL IN A TIME OF CRSIS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES NOT THIS STUFF MCSHAME AND HIS BARBIE SIDE KICK JUST THROW OUT THERE TO SWAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE REALLY SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT.
Maggie….how about McNoShame and Keating of the Loan and Savings fiasco…
Tell us about that one, Al. I wanna hear your brilliant analysis.
Maggie are you still there…or you went to Alaska to see the bridge to nowhere?
Wow, it really is a CAPS LOCK CAMPAIGN!!!
It is well known that this man is not a friend of Obama’s. They simply live in the same neighborhood and have met socially on several occasions. Obama has NEVER approved of terrorism in any form. Palin, on the other hand, did approvingly cite the words of Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-semite who said of RFK that ‘some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.’
I’would Like to ask mrs Palin.If a man is aterrorist”S and liveing your country teaching,why the feds do not goes after him.Ijust think mrs pain shut up and go home,and take care of her children.I think she already lost the debate.American are suffering,with their home about to loose every thing they have.You should be a shame.How can a man with is family,And have all the most powerfull people stand behind him could tie himself with Terrorist’s.Wise up Palin your little girl child have more sense more than you.Palin you and mr.Mc Cain should come up with some better than that.You two are sick.You are not Qualified for that job.Do you think you can just walk over Alqaeda.Mr Palin what are you trying to do,Stirup more hunger with Alqaeda.Palin are you stuiped.American are weak,you are in debtto your neck,and want to talk about terrorists,instead talk about the American who are in trouble.
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But electing a corrupt Chicago politician is OK? Keep in mind the people that run the great City of Chicago and the great County of Cook will be sitting in cabinet positions in the oval office. You OK with that?
WTF is it with these morons?
Obama was asked abouot what proposals he might have to cut back on due to the financial crisis and he went on about EDUCATION REFORM.
At a time when Americans may be at risk for FOOD and HEATING OIL.
The man is a serious flake. I mean it. He has brains, sure, but he can’t make any practical use of them.
Even Lehrer – LEHRER – did a doubletake.
Anybody who supports this obvious newbie flake for office is a fool. Maybe Obama would be a good President in prosperity, but not now. No fkn way.
Poor Barbara. She obviously has serious mental/emotional issues.
Oh by the way Maggie…if Sarah can be the vice-president because he can see Russia from Alaska..I can also tbe Secretary of Health because I can see from our house a tall building of a hospital. And maybe you can also be the Secretary of Transportation because you are using a car everyday!!!!
Q: What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a trashcan?
A: The can
If a man is aterroristâ€ÂS and liveing your country teaching,why the feds do not goes after him.
Ummm….they did, but there was prosecutorial misconduct and the charges thrown out. Bill Ayers admits to bombing the Pentagon, bright boy. What was his phrase?…”Guilty as hell, free as a bird!”
Palin accuses Obama – but what she doesn’t want you to know or see…..
This thing that we call a potential vice president (Palin) is a stone idiot! Making a fool of her must be what the McCain Insane wants her to do. I really feel sorry for her, and she is suppose to represent “women” instead she is a disgrace to all intelligent women in the world. She is now being the laughing stock of modern day politics. This is a product of a no agenda ticket in McCain and Palin, as they say desperate people do desperate things. Good try my dear… but would you really want anyone to see the video of you having a witch doctor at one of your churches compelling the demons to come out of you. Seriously, this actually happened. Check out the video showing her having these demons expelled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOD5X68lIs
Not to mention, this is the first time in history that a federal subpoena has been issued for a vice presidential candidate and their spouse, to which they both completely ignore and obviously do not respect the government. This from a woman who is running for a FEDERAL government position, so “Country Firstâ€Â, obviously not Gov. Palin, or maybe the laws just don’t apply to your and your husband. How convenient!
Lady if that is what you want to call yourself, stick to the issues as it relates to the hard working American People. Please
Maggie where are you????
Was this linked by a site dedicated to spreading illiteracy?
Maggie are you hiding under Sarah!!!!
Well, it must be working for the morons to come out in such force, I guess.
Both Palin and McCain were recently alluding General Petraus and Bin Laden agree that the central front on war on terror is Iraq! Does it mean Petraus is a Pal of bin laden! Come on folks, stop this nonsensical characterizations. Talk about solutions to the present problems.
The arrogent, ignorant bitch has taken off her lipstick to reveal A PITBULL!! AHHHHHHHHHH!
I’ve done some work on sashal’s comment.
Here it is, improved:
Maggie…..are you having a heart attack…oh nooooooooooo!!!!
Jeff G…ride on man!!!! Beautiful!!!!
This women is full of shit and just plain pathetic! Please America, as an Iraq vet, I beg of you do not be fooled by these two mindless fools (McCain/Palin) BS!
Go! Obama/Biden 08
Maggie you see…Sarah is married to somebody who wants to secede from the U S of A….you dig that…huh Maggie…
You do realize that John McCain hung around with COMMUNISTS for 5 YEARS!!!
/snark off
Palin that is old news about Barack. The ties to a “so called terrorist” was disproved during when the Democratic candidates ran against each other. Nobody cares about this anymore.
Please get up to date on the current news.
“Please America, as an Iraq vet”
How many camels have you examined?
Talk about solutions to the present problems.
Oh, I don’t know, I think it’s instructive to know where the candidates’ assumptions lie, don’t you? And since they stock their administrations with people they know and trust, I think it’s useful to see the sort of folks they’ve been hanging out with.
VKon you are to harsh…she is not full of shit …she is $#@%!!!!!!
Palin that is old news about Barack. The ties to a “so called terrorist†was disproved during when the Democratic candidates ran against each other. Nobody cares about this anymore.
Then shouldn’t you be inwardly thrilled to see Palin charge down this blind alley, wasting her time and effort?
BTW, well done on the sashal take-down, Jeff.
Some interesting visitors this thread has drawn. And by “interesting,” I mean “retarded.”
Palin’s alleged terrorism comment about Obama is extremely dangerous and shall be condemned by McCain and all Republicans. If Palin has really stated such connection then she should be prosecuted immediatly for inducing into sick minds thoughts that could lead to a tragedy. What was thinking?
“The ties to a “so called terrorist†was disproved during when the Democratic candidates ran against each other”
Yes it was tough choice for the “Party of Defeat”: the candidate who hangs out with domestic terrorists vs the candidate who pardons them.
*sigh* picked the wrong time to put my stage makeup on obviously…. sorry, Al Ram you’ll have to wait til, um, oh, I should be back around one a.m…. depends on how crowded walmart is when I stop to get dog food.
It does not surprises me that Palin has no ethics and is a bold faced liar along with the fact that some people are willing to believe what she says with no interest in whether it is true. A liar as VP of our country, I hope not.
Al Ram liked it. Because he didn’t bother reading it. Predictable, that.
Two birds, one stone.
“What was thinking?”
You tell me Carl
Boldface liar? Is that like an italicized dreamer?
It ought to be an easy matter, if the media actually desired to dig, to question some of Ayers’ Weather Underground companions who did go to jail to find out exactly what kind of actions the guy was involved with. I bet a few of them are pissed that he got off and became a “professor, for god’s sake.”
If Palin has really stated such connection then she should be prosecuted immediatly for inducing into sick minds thoughts that could lead to a tragedy.
Hey, we’ve got just the guy for the job here in St. Looie. He’s big into anti-O! thoughtcrime.
“A liar as VP of our country, I hope not.”
You don’t like Joey Hairplugs?
That would be Palin Rumor #15: Yes, her husband was once a member of the Alaskan Independence party. No, it doesn’t believe in secession. Yes, that was when the AIP won the Governor’s office with Wally Hickel. No, Alaska didn’t secede.
That one would be Palin Rumor #85: The truth is that she was blessed by a Christian preacher from Africa who had “hunted witches” in Kenya. Once. Three years ago. When he visited her church.
C’mon, guys, you haven’t broken 100 yet: can’t you come up with original asinine smears?
It would be interesting to find out which sinistrospherian linked this. The overall level of literacy, spelling, etc. indicates that it can’t be Kos, but they’re mostly too verbatim on the talking points for it to be, e.g., Balloon Juice. Yglesias, maybe?
Regards,
Ric
Hi Maggie are you buying dog food for the “pitbull with lipsticks”…hahahahahaha!!!!
It’s kinda fun, Ric. Of course, there’s the potential of falling into the trap of thinking all Obamabots are this empty-headed and illiterate. Some are a lot worse.
Ms Palin I am looking for our position on issues. We have had 8 years of Bush. Now you are practicing te same politics. These are serious times. Please raise serious issues. Raise te level of the debate.
Life Long Conservative for Obama
Kulaks for Stalin!
So the deperate comments from Palin begin. Her stupidity is going to cost McCain any chance of winning the election.
Palin shouldn’t throw stones. Does anyone remember that Palin associates with known members of a separatist organization that wanted Alaska to secede from the United states ?? In fact, she married one.
How could we trust her to uphold the US Constitution with that kind of background ??
>>Raise te level of the debate
Truth hurts, I know.
There, there. Have a hanky.
Comment by
Life Long Conservative for ObamaMOBY on 10/4 @ 5:10 pm #Fixed that for you.
“Raise te level of the debate.”
Yes We Can
I’d be more swayed by the “argument”* here if there were more caps lock. I LURV THE CAPS LOCK. It’s just so forceful.
*I use that term loosely.
I’m just waiting for somebody to mention “swift-boating”, that is, telling uncomfortable truths about a Democratic candidate’s past.
Where do they get these people? Al Ram is kind of fun, but the rest of them could be replaced by a Perl script.
Regards,
Ric
“Yes it was tough choice for the “Party of Defeatâ€Â: the candidate who hangs out with domestic terrorists vs the candidate who pardons them.”
What is the choice of the “Party that never wants a win but claim victory� What is the victory that they claim? If it is victory in Iraq, we should withdraw from there, right now! Why are we still hollering there??
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“Does anyone remember that Palin associates with known members of a separatist organization that wanted Alaska to secede from the United states ?? In fact, she married one.”
Those “facts” have already been answered @ 110. Go get some original ones.
Jon Peter on 10/4 @ 5:13 pm
It must take a long time to type your post when you have to sound out each word….see post #110 for pre-refutation of your vacuum-skulled talking point. Maybe we’ll send Carl’s (#100) Ministry of Truth prosecutor out after you.
Its quite simple. The ignorant and hateful comments made by both sides are more of the same. The USA has been divided for 8 years. Does this make sense to anyone. The country is on ther verge of being broke, has a military that is stretched, the world has lost respect for the USA and you want to coninue on this path. Good luck!! China, India, EU prepare to dominate we will soon be saying …”..in the days when the USA was great!
Just continue on the same path.
Whoa….The great unwashed doucenozzle squad is out in force tonight. Apparently they really understand their wonder boy has a less than exemplary association pool of “friends” and “mentors”.
– SHOUT DOWN – SHOUT DOWN –
– Ummmm…. do you think thats going to work loons?
Palin can spread all the lies she wants to, in the end Senators Obama and Biden will be entering the WhiteHouse come Jan 2009. If the Obama campaign wanted to get nasty against her they certainly could. The gounder of a group that Palin courted that professed hatred for the American government, cursed the damn flag.AIP founder Joe Volger made the comments in 1991. Palin has courted the group over the years. She also addressed their convention this year in fact. Her husband Todd was a memeber of the group from 1995-2002. So before she starts spounting off at the mouth she should take a look at herself. And she has a witch doctor chaser laying hands on her so she can get elected.
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“If it is victory in Iraq, we should withdraw from there, right now!”
How about we withdraw from Germany first? It has only been 63 (this calls for caps)YEARS since victory there.
Wow, this is an impressive infestation!
Jeff, who the hell linked you?
Sarah was once a leader of Alaskan Secessionist Movement and Sen. McCain has serious Gambling problem.
– So then, we’re coming to you from the Merrick parkway, on the scene of the Obama registration drive….
– Remember fellow moonbats – vote early – vote often… thank you, thank you
Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. Why don’t you tell the public about Carl H. Lindner Jr.,Oh wait, maybe you haven’t read that article yet. Ask McCain, he knows . Or maybe you can tell us about Tod and his afiliations to the secessionist Alaska Independence Party . Remember Sarah? You know, the one that your husband registered to in 1995. Don’t they hate America? Didn’t they curse the American Flag? Uhm… Oh not, don’t tell me you forgot. Instead explaining what are you guys going to do to fix the economy, or with the Health program, etc. Oh right, maybe that is not important. Maybe I asking unfair questions. Oh, yes, where you the one who say that Couric was asking unfair questions?But I am not asking what you read. Tell us Sarah, is that true that your town charged rape victims for raped kits when you were a Mayor?
Sarah was once a leader of Alaskan Secessionist Movement and Sen. McCain has serious Gambling problem.
And she turned me into a newt!
OMG, Life Long Conservative! I was a life long liberal. Honest. REally. Life LOOONG. I think I’m gonna call a radio show on monday or something.
McCain/Palin 08!
“The ignorant and hateful comments made by both sides are more of the same.”
I can’t help it if Leftist and Islamists use the same talking points about the US
Well, I’d say Palin’s hit the target. The hive doesn’t buzz like like this if you didn’t hit it square.
– Its that 10 point thing. They know their wonder boy is toat if they can’t “get it up”.
– You look at some of those moonbat skanks, its a wonder anyone that lives within 15 miles of one of them can get it up.
Didn’t she attend a church where a literal witchdoctor laid hands on her?
A visiting minister from Kenya prayed that she be protected from witchcraft. I suppose you wouldn’t allow no spearchucker shaman in your church, huh?
All these commentators sound like the same person with about 10 sock puppets.
Go Sara Go!!!
Her are some other items about the ticket she must have seen in the Times:
Read on:
A. Ms. Palin does not appear to have made any trade missions since taking office, and former state officials said the state’s trade staff had been reduced under her watch.
Alaska has also sharply reduced its role in the Northern Forum, an association of state and regional governments from countries including Canada, Russia, Japan and China that works on common issues in northern regions like economic development, flooding and global warming.
B. Unbelievable. Sarah Palin finished her closing remarks by quoting Ronald Reagan:
It was Ronald Reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. We don’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we’re going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children about a time in America, back in the day, when men and women were free.
When did he say this? It was on a recording he made for Operation Coffeecup  a campaign organized by the American Medical Association to block the passage of Medicare. Doctors’ wives were supposed to organize coffee klatches for patients, where they would play the Reagan recording, which declared that Medicare would lead us to totalitarianism.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
C. At Sarah Palin’s old church in Wasilla, they spoke in tongues. Maybe that’s where she picked it up.
D. This entire election season has been a long-running saga about the rise of women in American politics. On Thursday, it all went sour. The people boosting Palin’s triumph were not celebrating because she demonstrated that she is qualified to be president if something ever happened to John McCain. They were cheering her success in covering up her lack of knowledge about the things she would have to deal with if she wound up running the country.
E. But some Republican strategists who once worked for Mr. McCain say that the attacks and false statements have weakened the brand he built over the years as a straight talker who lamented the bitterness of modern politics. More than half of the respondents in a New York Times/CBS News poll said late last month that Mr. McCain spent more time attacking Mr. Obama than explaining what he would do as president
F. Now comes Ms. Palin, a smiling, bubbly vice-presidential candidate who travels in an alternate language universe. For Ms. Palin, such things as context, syntax and the proximity of answers to questions have no meaning. The Constitution does not state or imply any flexibility in the office of vice president. It gives the vice president no legislative responsibilities other than casting a tie-breaking vote in the Senate when needed and no executive powers at all. The vice president’s constitutional role is to be ready to serve if the president dies or becomes incapacitated.
Any president deserves a vice president who will be a sound adviser and trustworthy supporter. But the American people also deserve and need a vice president who understands and respects the balance of power  and the limits of his or her own power. That is fundamental to our democracy.
So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong.
“Sarah was once a leader of Alaskan Secessionist Movement”
I know why: She wanted to get away from the moonbats.
So sayeth the “Lifelong Conservative for Obama,” who apparently has never heard of the question mark.
Gotta love how they stomp on free speech. hypocrites and morons. every one of them.
Nazis
Punks
Pieces of shit
Commenter #28 – honestly, you’ve got, like, FOUR grammar infractions in the first few sentences alone. Damn. How can you be a witness for O-man writing like that?
The Messiah will be disappointed. He went to Harvard, you know.
A visiting minister from Kenya prayed that she be protected from witchcraft. I suppose you wouldn’t allow no spearchucker shaman in your church, huh?
Only if escorted in by Louie Farrakhan and the rest of the Klan with a Tan.
The same racist “joe six packs” replaced the old racist terms, now socially unacceptable, and now put the label as terrorists! Still striking the same old emotions, and same hatred from these “closet” racists. If you run out of this to use to get people to like you try and get them to side with you by striking an old emotion they won’t let go. It is not okay anymore to say “I don’t want a black man to be president” but it is okay to say “I don’t want a TERRORIST to be president!!!”” hmmm… makes you think doesn’t it…?
W…. T…..F…
Who thinks Bob’s comment would play better in all caps?
“Don’t they hate America?”
– Hmmm….I’ll have to call Wright and ask him.
(this is just tooooo easy…..lol)
Doctors’ wives were supposed to organize coffee klatches for patients, where they would play the Reagan recording, which declared that Medicare would lead us to totalitarianism.
It’s well on its way, for the record.
I feel like a chicago talk radio station with a conservative guest.
WE WILL DROWN OUT YOUR LOGIC WITH THE SHEER POWER OF OUR FEELINGS !!!!
Free speech for me but not for thee.
well it will certainly get interesting once it breaks that Mccain gave the Vietcong secrets after only a couple of days in captivity.
Not to mention MUCH more…….
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/2
Um, you ever seen Bill Ayers?
You know. I agree. McCain / Palin 08. Bin Laden’s objective was to destroy America’s way of living and strike at the heart of its financial system. Bush was right to go to Afganistan. But you need to know how end wars and win hearts and minds. Thus becoming hateful and ignoring the rest of the world and being intolerant has the the USA to where it is. The reponse to hate was hate. What conservative does this? You say you believe in good and evil and perpetuate evil.
McCain / Palin ’08 -MORE PAIN!!!
The same racist “joe six packs†replaced the old racist terms, now socially unacceptable, and now put the label as terrorists!
Oh, Jeff has got to take this one on.
You know, thinkingwithabrain or whatever the hell stupid sn you’ve chosen … I’m wondering if terrorists have the same lock-step support among terrorists that O! gets among blacks. Because that would be, like, AWESOME. 95% baby!
Naw, Matt, they just show the world what they’re really like. Its cool, in its way. Let the freak flags fly!
So we can aim better.
“How about we withdraw from Germany first? It has only been 63 (this calls for caps)YEARS since victory there.”
we don’t have the forces of invasion level there now! who is saying we won’t even have residual force in Iraq?
The trillion dollar question now is, when can we claim victory now?! Why Palin and McCain want to claim it now and yet don’t want to withdraw.
Who left the troll bait out again?
in how many presidential attempts has McCain been vetted. The lefties don’t understand, its why the GOP picked him. We know everything there is to know about McCain and he’s still standing.
Teflon John ?
Nah, its embarassing. I don’t like him that much but I dislike socialist community organizers alot more.
You know. I agree. McCain / Palin 08. Bin Laden’s objective was to destroy America’s way of living and strike at the heart of its financial system. Bush was right to go to Afganistan. But you need to know how end wars and win hearts and minds. Thus becoming hateful and ignoring the rest of the world and being intolerant has the the USA to where it is. The reponse to hate was hate.
I knew we should have deployed Leo Buscaglia to Tora Bora.
Oooo, a swarm of maggots! Ayers name is indeed the sweet putrefaction that attracts.
(Oh, Al Ram — that hospital you can see from your window — is that where they do those horrible things to you? How many blog posts do you have to make to avoid the next horrible needle that suctions your sensibilities? Keep going dude, we feel for you, man!)
Back to the topic: We need to hear from the heroic radical reformer of capitalist education. Free Bill Ayers to speak truth to power!
get interesting once it breaks that Mccain gave the Vietcong secrets after only a couple of days in captivity.
Not to mention MUCH more…….
Oh, for fucks sake. but, you know, she read it in Rolling Stone!
““I don’t want a black man to be president†but it is okay to say “I don’t want a TERRORIST to be president!!!— hmmm… makes you think doesn’t it…?”
Yes it does: I don’t want: a muslim, who wasn’t born in the US, that hangs around with terrorists, to be President.
One thing to be said for drafts: These kinds of fkrs die in large numbers when you do that.
– Yes, well you see America’s “terrorists”, are the Lefts fuck-headed hero’s.
– So that one is tutorial.
– But they do perform like trained monkeys, you have to give them that.
I was so for Obma until i saweth Palins comments. Obama really hangs out with terorisths? OMG i can no longer vote for tis man. McCain palin 08
“well it will certainly get interesting once it breaks that Mccain gave the Vietcong secrets after only a couple of days in captivity.”
Why would you Communists complain about that?
Check out Media Matters to see McCain’s own link to G. Gordon Liddy. Sara Palin and the McCain campaign need to look into their own hearts before they start casting stones.
The link is: http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004?f=h_popular
ummm….carin…why don’t you read the rolling stone article…cause the rest of the country sure will within a couple of weeks…pretty meticulously researched…LOL…
Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 5:29 pm #
““I don’t want a black man to be presidentâ€Â
Now we are being honest. That I respect. Debate over. Punish the country. Never consider issues. Vote only on the color of a man’s skin.
“But you need to know how end wars and
win hearts and minds.”Nuke ’em
hey dre,
hi friend….I’m not a communist though. I’m sorry I accidentally ended up on the hate blog.
Look like sarah and mcclain is at it again. For someone who refuse to go back to alaska to court she really have some nerves. She is so low that she uses her family hoping that she can fool women to be on her side. She is not the only one who have a child with disabilty nor is she is the only to work and take of her children. There is a lot of single parents female as well as two parent families working everyday and they are not all sitting behind a desk trying to figure out what lie to tell next.
It is good that she can go to soccer games with her children she do have a help mate to help her out. If she had to do some real hard work in the real world then she can brag until then she need to keep that to herself. She probably is looking in the want ads for nanny so then she can really be free.
I am afraid that mcclain is going to lead sarah down a path that will be hard for her to get back on the right track. When she start playing dirty pool she must remember that it will come back on her and she will not have the right to cry like a baby. If you play with fire you will surely get burned.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
The same racist “joe six packs†replaced the old racist terms,
And there it is…
– Hell, while we’re at it we might as well nuke Frisco from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
This sounds like the O!’s internet spamming squad has been given a new mission. Jeff you have my sympathies.
“The trillion dollar question now is,
when can we claim victory now?why are we still giving money to people with shitty credit? “It is not okay anymore to say “I don’t want a black man to be presidentâ€Â
We are quoting one of your fellow trolls dumbass. You know, one of the same ones attacking Palin for letting an African witch doctor touch her?
“Check out Media Matters to see McCain’s own link to G. Gordon Liddy”
I like the G-man. His show is very entertaining.
“But you need to know how end wars and win hearts and minds.â€Â
Nuke ‘em
Wow, dre for President. I now see that is good foreign policy.
Hey will one of you guys tell me which nutjob leftist website linked here?
– Doesn’t matter what you call yourself “Karen”. If you’re on the O! team, you’re anti-American. (probably a skank too if you’re even really a fem.)
Boy Howdy! What a fine testament to the intellectual left this thread is!
I wonder how much nObama’s campaign pays these trolls? Probably too little as he’s not getting quality trolling for his money. Perhaps he’s outsourcing to a country where trolls come cheap?
Well, Karen, between what I learn on “The View” and “People Magazine” … plus Bill Maher’s show … it’s hard to keep up with all those excellent sources for political information.
Why does Obama associate with a racist church for 20 years? How could someone do that?
I wonder where nishi and thor and Barrett are about now? You all need to come on out and welcome your new allies!
“why are we still giving money to people with shitty credit?”
ask McCain. He just voted for it.
No.
“Comment by Life Long Conservative for Obama on 10/4 @ 5:33 pm #”
Fucking liar:
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Comment by thinkingwithabrain on 10/4 @ 5:24 pm #
The same racist “joe six packs†replaced the old racist terms, now socially unacceptable, and now put the label as terrorists! Still striking the same old emotions, and same hatred from these “closet†racists. If you run out of this to use to get people to like you try and get them to side with you by striking an old emotion they won’t let go. It is not okay anymore to say “I don’t want a black man to be president†but it is okay to say “I don’t want a TERRORIST to be president!!!— hmmm… makes you think doesn’t it…?
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Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 5:29 pm #
““I don’t want a black man to be president†but it is okay to say “I don’t want a TERRORIST to be president!!!â€Â†hmmm… makes you think doesn’t it…?â€Â
Yes it does: I don’t want: a muslim, who wasn’t born in the US, that hangs around with terrorists, to be President.
– It shows you how closely the Left monitors Classic Liberal sites though.
– TRVTH TO POWER BSHBSH!!!!111eleventyone!!!11
I wonder how much nObama’s campaign pays these trolls?
Angel dust, apparently.
This is great!!
I was waiting for the quality mud slinging to begin and having the Alaska centerfold leading the charge is too good to be true.
Did Obama speak at a grade school yesterday?
Do you want a muslim born in the USA?
So, did Sarah win the debate, or what?
Hey will one of you guys tell me which nutjob leftist website linked here?
I don’t know, but they sure know how to cut and paste. Then again, those “special” children on the little yellow schools buses can do the same thing …
These fine folks are over from CNN.
Perhaps we should ask them about CNN’s “operational ties” to the late Saddam Hussein’s regime.
Actually, Life Long Conservative is starting to grow on me. So cute.
LLC, grass is green. The fellow who sold you the mauve and cerise Astroturf® was having you on.
Regards,
Ric
I was guessing mental institution.
“If she had to do some real hard work in the real world then she can brag until then she need to keep that to herself. ”
So you know how to do commercial fishing in the Pacific ocean?
When you live in a cheap cut glass house, you can’t even through pebbles at someone else. Palin and her thuggish husband are disobeying court ordered subpoenas in Alaska; yet, she wants to be the vice president of this Country. If you can’t obey the very law of the land you want to be the second top executive in, you should not have the audacity to try and throw dirt at someone else while you are LITERALLY breaking the law. It is a known fact that Palin, her husband, and other subordinates of the governor’s administration in Alaska have continuously ignored the subpoenas. Anyone else in America would be arrested if they did not obey the summons.
Everyone wants to say Obama is scary; you better watch the Alaskan-wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing-Palin. My intuition is pretty good; I know that I am correct regarding this woman. Sarah Palin is a great “pretender” who will be revealed prior to executive election day 2008.
This simplistic eye-winking, wise-cracking, deceptive millionaire is definitely not a “joe-six pack”.
A deciever, she definitely is.
CNN? So, they’re not just pretending to be brain dead.
“Do you want a muslim born in the USA?”
Only if they are former muslims.
– No. I want an American born in the US to br President. Let your wonder boy go be Chancellor of Germany or something. They love Socialists over there.
Perhaps we should ask them about CNN’s “operational ties†to the late Saddam Hussein’s regime.
Shhh, don’t use logic around moonbats! You might cause a catastrophic meltdown, with patchouli and cheeto fumes flying everywhere …
Throw Jane. They don’t even SOUND the same. You are dismissed.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/4 @ 5:42 pm #
These fine folks are over from CNN.
Perhaps we should ask them about CNN’s “operational ties†to the late Saddam Hussein’s regime.
These are the same people that are over at the Politico every day. I honestly think they are a paid part of the astroturf campaign. Nobody could be this stupid and this filled with the same cut and paste hacky shit, let alone 20 people.
Millionaire, Jane? You are too stupid to vote. Honestly.
Nice chat guys. We should never have a problem disagreeing but bein nasty and for no good reaso well……
Al Ram
Pass the syrup, Al.
Dingleberry, please.
Really, Jane. I think on the first Tuesday in November they are having KILLER sales at Target. I think you should get in line early, and stay there ALL DAY. Your nation will thank you.
“My intuition is pretty good; I know that I am correct regarding this muslim
woman. Barak Hussein ObamaSarah Palinis a great “pretender†who will be revealed prior to executive election day 2008.Wow, Jeff must have struck a nerve, judging from the moby’s and shriekers that have wandered in. Or is it just thor trying to dodge the Trollhammer?
These people are only here to prevent rational discussion and dialog. They have already accomplished their job at CNN so I guess they want to spread their viral form of stupidity here.
Millionaire, Jane? You are too stupid to vote. Honestly.
It is no coincidence the Democrats are always the ones fighting any kind of voter reform, they literally depend on morons to get elected.
Well, morons and cheating.
Only a racist would criticize a Kenyan whose spiritual worldview runs a little counter to American sensibilities
These people are only here to prevent rational discussion and dialog.
Pooh-flingers, just like any primate in a zoo.
McCain/Palin evidently see terrorists everywhere. Perhaps that explains why the McCain campaign sent Ed O’Callaghan, top NY prosecutor for terrorism, to Anchorage weeks ago to try to halt the Legislative investigation of abuse of power against our aw-shucks governor. Their attempt has now reached the AK Supreme Court who will rule Thursday. Their argument: the legislative branch cannot investigate the executive branch. (Seems they are unfamiliar with “balance of power†being fundamental to democracy.)
Sarah, your constituents are holding you accountable. Alaskans expect you to keep your promise of open and transparent government. We want PLAIN TRUTH, not PALIN TRUTH. Trying to circumvent Alaska’s Constitution with an anti-terrorist attack dog and a team of far-right Liberty Legal lawyers from Texas is a strong indication that you have something to hide. Time to come clean. Alaska, and America, deserve better.
Ha, these are getting more and more amusing. They’re just ohhhh so convincing …
My intuition is pretty good; I know that I am correct regarding this woman.
So Jane, you…
Nah, too easy.
Jane, since you have good intuitions, and the subject came up already, what is your take on Obamas ties with Ayres, Rezko, and Wright?
Since you have such strong feelings about Sarah Palins past, do you concern yourself at all with Obamas past?
– Hey, even the moonbats serve a purpose. The glow from their peanut sized heads illuminate the grass for evening parties, so no one trips over the lawn furniture.
Like we all didn’t know already, but Palin just solidifies with these reckless remarks the fact that she is nothing more than a political whore for the McCain Campaign. There are obviously no depths that are too low for her to sink in her quest for power!
And Obama sees them in his neighborhood. And at work. Funny, that.
“There are obviously no depths that are too low for her to sink in her quest for power!”
Hahahah. Yes joining the PTA was only the first part of her plan for world domination ala Dick Cheney.
How DARE she point out that Obama and Ayers have a working relationship! THAT’S NOT HOW WE HAVE WRITTEN THE NARRATIVE OF HOPE AND CHANGE!
“Sarah, your constituents are holding you accountable. ”
Yea I know she doesn’t get the 99% approval rating like Saddam and Fidel but 65% ain’t bad. Come on SanFranNan only gets 9%.
There are obviously no depths that are too low for her to sink in her quest for power!
The irony of this statement coming from an nObama supporter is astounding.
Some of these folks really need to be hit upside the head with a dictionary and a thesaurus.
“There are obviously no depths that are too low for her to sink in her quest for power!”
– Jeez, I had no idea she was that passionate politically.
– Now I may have to vote for her twice!
surprise,surprise,just when you thought that the repooblicans actually was going to lose this election in an honorable manner,they just prove barack obama right about what he was saying about there old political tactics.talk about not looking back gov palin ha,lets see how you would do in a real debate when you don’t have the answers on hand.let’s have some substance please,tell the people actually what you intend to do for the country enough of the cheap attack’s crap.
I’ve never seen so many people getting frisch-fried in my life…
“Comment by Asheville Guy on 10/4 @ 5:53 pm #
Like we all didn’t know already, but Palin just solidifies with these reckless remarks the fact that she is nothing more than a political whore for the McCain Campaign”
So that makes Joey Hairplugs a whoreman?
These people are only here to prevent rational discussion and dialog.
That, and to be T-Balls.
Swing away, Mr. Pink.
CNN.com is really proving it is the home of the most rational people on the internet.
Palin and her thuggish husband are disobeying court ordered subpoenas in Alaska
Ding, ding, wrong! Governor and first dude Palin are cooperating with the independent counsel appointed by the State Personnel Board, where this particular
political partisan witchhuntcomplaint belongs.“talk about not looking back gov palin ha,lets see how you would do in a real debate when you don’t have the answers on hand.let’s have some substance please,tell the people actually what you intend to do for the country enough of the cheap attack’s crap.”
I like Barak Hussein Obama’s earpiece in the last debate. Does he get the answer from Axelrod or are you guys texting him?
CNN.com is really proving it is the home of the most rational people on the internet.
Yes, indeed. Their intellectual acumen is something to behold.
The New York Times is a liberal rag with a liberal agenda. The truth being Obama did indeed have fairly close relationship to this home grown terrorist and in fact Ayers started Obama’s political career in his very own living room! I’d say that’s pretty cozy.
So this is what panic smells like. Kinda like flopsweat.
– They must all be newbies.
– Thread-jacking is done by changing the topic moonbats.
– Emphasizing the terrible, anti-American associations of your empty suit candidate is not the way its done.
– Get it?
This is exciting. Palin must be drawing blood big-time. That’s the only reason these useful idiots are attacking. Never occurs to any of them that this is the kind of brutish action typical of fascism. None of them were alive when it was defeated the first time. We’ll defeat it a second time, if necessary. make no mistake.
The only difference between the Obamabots and the Nazis are that they’re not wearing uniforms–yet. Fascist thugs, all of you. Like a pack of rabid dogs. Fuck you. Your parent would be ashamed of you.
These people sound like the 40 plus Obama troll squad on the Politico. Cut and paste away guys I do hope you get paid more than minimum wage. Derailing a comment thread on ProteinWisdom is surely worth every penny.
Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 5:58 pm #
“Comment by Asheville Guy on 10/4 @ 5:53 pm #
Like we all didn’t know already, but Palin just solidifies with these reckless remarks the fact that she is nothing more than a political whore for the McCain Campaignâ€Â
So that makes Joey Hairplugs a whoreman?
I don’t see Biden out slandering McCain, so no, I wouldn’t say that.
Someone please put this witch back on the first dogsled to Wasilla. Oh no, wait, she’s already been excorcised, so she can’t be a witch.
Yeah, I’m thinking the hostility these types initially showed toward Trig must have been IQ envy.
So this is what panic smells like. Kinda like flopswea”t.
I love the smell of panicked trolls in the evening. It smells like … victory …”
Crapolanche!!
Like we all didn’t know already, but Palin just solidifies with these reckless remarks the fact that she is nothing more than a political whore for the McCain Campaign. There are obviously no depths that are too low for her to sink in her quest for power!
So remember, kiddies, hobnobbing with Pentagon-bombers is A-OK, but pointing out that someone is hobnobbing with Pentagon-bombers is just beyond the pale.
I wonder, with McCain’s ties to the Keating 5, why on earth does he insist on launching a smear campaign? Surely, if he were rational (which I doubt), he would recognize the danger there. Obama is not going to stoop that low, but if he did, the Republican base would have to look very carefully at the last financial bailout and McCain’s role in it…including criminal charges.
No, Obama will win this election. The American people are not foolish enough to fall for the misguided, low-life diversions that the McCain/Palin participants seem to think will get them elected.
Welcome “Camp Obama” graduates.
We welcome you as you work off your indentured servitude to your lord and savior.
We hope they have provided a comfortable couch for you to sleep on, or at least a warm spot next to the furnace.
“I don’t see Biden out slandering McCain, so no, I wouldn’t say that”
You didn’t watch the last VP debate then.
Mr. Whoopsie:
Actually, panicked trolls smells like a whole bunch of poo. Annoying, but after realizing what causes it I suppose one can take a grim satisfaction from its existence.
(Yes, I know. Text doesn’t really smell, and thank whatever deities are out there that web browsers don’t offer olfactory options.)
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/4 @ 6:03 pm #
These people sound like the 40 plus Obama troll squad on the Politico. Cut and paste away guys I do hope you get paid more than minimum wage. Derailing a comment thread on ProteinWisdom is surely worth every penny.
I don’t need to cut and paste because I can think on my feet – unlike Palin who must cut from one contrived, rehearsed speech and paste to another in the next town.
It looks like Sarah’s little mind ran out of things to talk about. The weather underground! Give me a break! Tomorrow she will tell us about Obama’s car mechanis’s mother, who had a friend who had a neighbor who once met the illegitimate daughter of Adolph Hitler. That surely proves once and for all Obama must must be a Nazi. Where do the republicans dig up these people. I knew they would have to search far and wide for another moron like Bush, and sure enough, in a far away land to the North called Alaska, there sat another. God help us all.
“Comment by Jacque on 10/4 @ 6:06 pm #
I wonder, with McCain’s ties to the Keating 5”
He’s BIPARTISAN Obamabots. The other 4 were DEMORATS
CNN thor, there you go. The women will throw themselves at you, the men will name their members after you. You will truly reach the Godhood you desire.
The fact that these people represent the typical Obama voter is what is significant to me. Our education system has failed them in basic English and critical thinking skills. Some blame can be place on their parents though.
I wonder, with McCain’s ties to the Keating 5, why on earth does he insist on launching a smear campaign?
Probably because, while he was found to have been imprudend in the K5 affair, he didn’t actually do anything wrong or criminal (like the other four, Democrats all).
Actually, panicked trolls smells like a whole bunch of poo.
The kind of pooh one is struck with after an evening’s worth of hard-boiled eggs and cheap beer.
LMAO.
Man, dose people totally underestimated the denizens of dancing armadillo paradise.
(I just adore alliteration. Can’t ya tell?)
MaCain and Palin two pathetic idiots.
“…wonder, with McCain’s ties to the Keating 5…”
– You’re falling behind on the talking points script moonloon. A Dem talking head tried that screed on FOX and just got his ass handed to him.
– Try harder.
“The American people are not foolish enough to fall for the misguided, low-life diversions that the Barack Hussein Obama/Joey Hairplugs
McCain/Palinparticipants seem to think will get them elected.I don’t need to cut and paste because I can think on my feet…
And I am sure your feet are fascinating, but you need to be thinking on what you are fixing to say because that was pretty lame, dude.
– Try harder.
You can’t expect too much from them, as I’m sure they’re only getting minimum wage for their trolling efforts.
Hi hf
Wonder when they’ll reach the bargaining phase. (I.e., “Okay, Ayers did some naughty things in the past, BUT…”)
So remember, kiddies, hobnobbing with Pentagon-bombers is A-OK, but pointing out that someone is hobnobbing with Pentagon-bombers is just beyond the pale.
And please, kiddies, take this heartfelt plea back to OHQ:
Free Bill Ayers! The world is waiting to hear from him! The oceans will recede, the planets will heal, things might blow up, but he will speak blinding, scintillating truth for the ages!
“I don’t need to cut and paste because I can think on my feet – unlike Palin who must cut from one contrived, rehearsed speech and paste to another in the next town.”
– That will serve you well junior, when your mommy makes you stand in the corner for voting for a soft M:arxist.
Let’s recap, shall we:
– Bill Ayers, Pentagon-bomber
– Bernadine Dohrn – fellow bomber and Manson enthusiast
– Jeremiah Wright – a devout man of “God damn Amerikkka”
– New Party – commies, socialists and other hard-left cretins
– Tony Rezko – swindler
– James Johnson – plunderer of Fannie Mae and Countrywide
– Franklin Raines – also a plunderer of Fannie Mae
I think the portrait of an O!ministration is getting clearer every day.
The best thing about this troll invasion is knowing that their heads will be exploding when McCain is declared the winner on Election Day. Oh, to be one of the numerous flies on their walls that night!
Can you feel it? It’s the sweet, sweet spirit of unity and hope that Obama inspires.
Jeebus Christmas, when did the trolls start taking meth? In any case, when the good ship Obama sinks this November I will be having a very nice dinner party; consider this an invitation to all moonbats present. I will have a nice cyanide-laced kool-aid and a double wide hole in the backyard so you can depart this wretched O!-less world in the company of comrades. I’ll of course be having a nice double malt.
Lee, that made me laugh so hard I think I just had an aneurysm …
Smear (n; vtr) = a truism that we don’t want mentioned, alluded to, or in any other way referenced or revealed.; the act of making such truism public at the expense of a desire to keep it hidden.
From the Merriam-Webster Democrat Dictionary of Revised Meanings to Fit our Ends, 2nd ed.
– Its a shame they probably won’t hang around long when they see how fast they get panced.
– Gawd gave us the Moonbat gaggle for our amusement.
From the Merriam-Webster Democrat Dictionary of Revised Meanings to Fit our Ends, 2nd ed.
Edited by Winston Smith.
I’ll bet every single one of you misguided individuals defending Palin voted for Bush in the last two elections too. Didn’t you all learn that the most important lesson in studying history is to prevent us from making the same mistakes over and over again???? Are you really better off than you were 8 years ago???
Sorry, but you’re underestimating the intelligence of the majority of Americans with articles like this. As soon as palin uttered her first”rehearsed” words, most of America had already decided who they were voting for. After the convention it became clearer to some independents or undecided voters that Palin is not ready, willing or able to run the country. 1/4 of US presidents have been “promoted” through the VP slot, so she was NOT the right choice of a 72 year old cancer survivor. Palin waited too late to try and speak to “America”. She’s got a few Reagan voters, but no one with more than a college degree and a good job…Someone currently under investigation for abuse of power and tries to play the Washington outsider has no place in the lower 48…No way, no McPalin..She should try and sell herself on eBay..The American public is too wise and there are too many important issues at stake for someone who talks about pitbulls, hockey moms and winks every 2-3 mins, to be sending or kids to Iraq. She couldn’t even tell K Couric which newspapers she reads or Supreme Court decisions she disagrees with…SORRY..not being that lemon..
I would like the MEDIA to do their job with integrity. Why MEDIA has been ignored this fact. BE AWARE is rather than BE ATTACHED. Sep 11th is a good lesson for all American. Do not wait until it’s too late. This country is our, so MEDIA (Left or right ) please be HONEST with American.
I’ll bet every single one of you misguided individuals defending Palin voted for Bush in the last two elections too.
I’ll bet you are wrong. About pretty much everything it would appear.
paragraphs, punctuation, and spacing must be foreign concepts in the realm of the moonbat.
Thank you for that analysis of the American public, #282. Just disregard her every utterance, k?
Whoops, how ironic!
“Are you really better off than you were 8 years ago???”
Yes I own 4 rentals instead of 1
Whoopsies: They aren’t interested in communication, just noise.
Chaff and flares. Accusation, counter-accusation. Anything to divert attention from uncomfortable facts.
“As soon as palin uttered her firstâ€Ârehearsed†words, most of America had already decided who they were voting for.”
– Obviously. How could we be so foolish.
– THAT must be why you’re taking such a layed back attitude. No problem. For a moment there I thought you might be worried.
Sorry, but you’re underestimating the intelligence of the majority of Americans with articles like this.
LMFAO! Have you read this thread, Harrison? It would be impossible to underestimate the intelligence of your tribe. We will see if you are the majority in November.
“so MEDIA (Left
or right) please be HONEST with American.FAIL!
Comment by B Moe on 10/4 @ 6:21 pm #
\I’ll bet you are wrong. About pretty much everything it would appear.
I would be willing to wage my-now-worthless 401K on that bet ; )
Explains a lot, including why none of them seems familiar with the current Talking Points. Therefore a new acronym: ZIF = “Zero Information Voter”.
Regards,
Ric
“As soon as palin uttered her firstâ€Ârehearsed†words…
Because Obama never rehearses anything, totally improv, like jazz campaigning. Those people are naturals at that sort of thing, you know.
Stop picking on them, Sean M. Fake but accurate is all the rage these days in the Humanities.
Plus, they feel. ISN’T THAT ENOUGH?
– So let me see if I have this straight. Palin is a total (fill in the garbage mouth here), so she can’t possibly beat CandyMan.
– BUT!
– How dare the NYT run an article like that, even mentioning the wonder boys nefarious associations.
– I MEAN THE BLASPHEMY!
– That about it. that all you got loons?
I didn’t vote for Bush in either election, voted Libertarian in 2000 and not at all in 04.
Give me an email and I will tell you where to send the money.
When McCain agrees with a Bimbo and racist redneck like Palin saying garbage like that instead of talking about solutions on; economy, mortgage crises, healthcare, education and war it shows the end of the era for Republicans. As a white man leaving in the South I know that for red necks a bimbo like Palin with no brain is better than a color-man with Harvard education.
Wake up red necks, we are not going to let you win this time, we have more people, we are more motivated and much more angry than you are and if it needs to come to the force we will tear you apart.
RACIST!! Our Lord and Savior rehearsed every “uh, er and um” in this brilliant speech!!
Because Obama never rehearses anything, totally improv, like jazz campaigning.
Those skills will come in handy as he looks for new employment after losing the election.
I’m more frightened now than ever, after this.
BRING BACK THE POLL TAX! FOR FREEDOM!
NEVAR!!!1!1!!eleventy!
Well, gee. Let’s see how well things are going in Barack’s home town.
At least it’s not Wasilla, eh?
Comment by B Moe on 10/4 @ 6:27 pm #
I didn’t vote for Bush in either election, voted Libertarian in 2000 and not at all in 04.
Give me an email and I will tell you where to send the money
OK – I concede on that point, BUT you obviously didn’t get the “now worthless” part though.
Ashville guy, you’re really going to bet B Moe that everyone here voted for Bush twice?
Can I get in on that action too?
…we are more motivated and much more angry than you are and if it needs to come to the force we will tear you apart.
All right! Now we are getting down to it!
We are smarter and better armed than your are Adam and if you fuck with me I will blow your fucking head off.
BRING BACK THE POLL TAX! FOR FREEDOM!
How about one of those simple exercises used by scientists to test the intelligence of great apes? If they can press the proper symbols, they’re allowed to vote. If they choose incorrectly, a mild electric shock … and perhaps a boot to the head.
NO!Obamiacs (QUOTE #6) SHE IS NOT A RACIST…JUST DESPERATE!
A “color-man”? So does that mean Biden will be doing the play-by-play?
I knew it.
WE’VE BEEN HOODWINKED! BAMBOOZLED! WE DIDN’T LAND ON PLYMOUTH ROCK — PLYMOUTH ROCK LANDED ON US REDNECKS!
When you’ve got nothing to offer like McCain/Palin you have to resort to desperate lies hoping ignorant people will buy it, well good luck, I think even not so sharp people are hip to and sick of this regurgitated BS.
At least it’s not Wasilla, eh?
I hear they got some rape kits for sale. I ordered one and am goin’ a-rapin’ soon as I git it.
Can I get in on that action too?
Me, too. That’s some easy money.
…you obviously didn’t get the “now worthless†part though.
I got that you were a liar and a cheat, that goes with the territory.
Didn’t you all learn that the most important lesson in studying history is to prevent us from making the same mistakes over and over again????
Ah, but grasshopper, history didn’t begin eight years ago (when you were 10 or so, perhaps). Presidential elections began in this nation (the United States of America, if you’re in doubt) in 1789. Look it up. You will be quzzed.
Hint: George W. Bush can’t serve a third term. (Bonus points if you get that one right.)
“As a Barack Hussein Obamabot
white manleaving in the South I know that for red necks a bimbo like Barack Hussein ObamaPalinwith no brain is better than a Moose Hunter and Governorcolor-man with Harvard education.The irony, it threatens to open up a black hole and swallow up the earth.
Damn!
Palin, a racist? Didn’t she marry herself a full-blood injun? One like Ward Churchill?
“….and if it needs to come to the force we will tear you apart.
– *Cha-clack*: The sound of millions of redneck guns being locked and loaded.
– I reeeeally don’t think you want to go there junior. *snort*
– You think you’ve seen angry, you ain’t seen shit.
A “color-man� So does that mean Biden will be doing the play-by-play?
Now that sounds like a bi-partisan compromise I can get behind. McCain/Palin gets the White House, Obama/Biden take over Monday Night Football. Win/Win the way I see it.
And send Kornhiser to negotiate with Iran. A one-way ticket.
“paragraphs, punctuation, and spacing must be foreign concepts in the realm of the moonbat.”
Spell-check isn’t in that reality either. Too oppressive. Lots of that capitalism virus though.
“When you’ve got nothing to offer like Barack Hussein Obama/ Joey Hairplugs
McCain/Palinyou have to resort to desperate lies hoping ignorant people will buy it, well good luck, I think even not so sharp people are hip to and sick of this regurgitated BS.”Insty has a link to this post by Stanley Kurtz:
A CNN article on Sarah Palin’s criticism of Barack Obama’s relationship to unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers actually cites National Review as one of the publications supposedly debunking Palin’s point. How CNN can cite National Review this way is a mystery to me. Maybe we’ll have to set up an NR “truth squad.”
I was very briefly on CNN immediately after the McCain campaign called for me to be given access to UIC library. A CNN reporter interviewed me, and almost every question was an attempt to challenge the significance of the Obama-Ayers link. I answered every query in detail. When the report finally aired, my points about the significance of the Obama-Ayers connection were cut. And now, CNN is actually claiming NR as an ally in its effort to undercut Palin. Incredible.
One like Ward Churchill?
His Indian name is ‘Looks like a Wasp’ …
For some reason this video came to mind while viewing the various visitors from lovely CNN-land.
Comment by B Moe on 10/4 @ 6:33 pm #
…you obviously didn’t get the “now worthless†part though.
I got that you were a liar and a cheat, that goes with the territory.
Jeez dude! Lighten up! I was just trying to be friendly. Believe it or not – I have friends who are McCain supporters – going biking with one tomorrow. Must be some real concern about what’s going to transpire in November here…
Noticable by their absence in an Obama administration will be Ayers girlfiend (oops, I’ll leave the typo) Diana Oughton who died on March 6, 1970, in New York City along with Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, when a bomb they were constructing did the right thing.
Fight the Power
Grow the heck up Palin,
Stick to the issues I am getting to old for this crap!
Pretty bold statement from a person who didn’t have the guts to say it at the debate.
Pretty bold statement from a person who didn’t have the guts to say it at the debate.
Good point, Jen, I think Palin should have hit Senator Chia Pet right between the eyes with that one.
GWB may not be perfect, but the stature of his legacy is inversely proportional to Clinton’s, i.e. Gdubs becomes a Truman in the eyes of history while Clinton’s dawdling after Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Khobar Towers, Tarnak Farms-Afghanistan (cf. the attempts to block ‘The path to 9/11) reflects quite poorly. 28 out of the last 40 years have been under Republican presidents. The electoral map hasn’t changed significantly from 2004, the ‘October Surprise’ of Obama’s rapport with terrorists comes out, and here at pw, we have the apoplectic Obamabots. Who exactly is nervous here?
Hmmm, the run-on paragraph starters seem to have left. Time for the two-sentence relief trolls.
Funny, I don’t remember Gwen Ifill bringing up Bill Ayers.
Worth quoting in full:
Man…This is the funniest thread I’ve seen in at least three years!
Thanks for the entertainment, Jeff!
and to The Denizens of Dancing Armadillo Paradise, thank you!!!
To the Astroturfing Axelrods? Thanks for playing!!
…I’m laughing so hard my face hurts…
Comment by Mr. Whoopsies on 10/4 @ 6:42 pm #
Hmmm, the run-on paragraph starters seem to have left. Time for the two-sentence relief trolls.
You sound like an elitist. Isn’t that something you guys detest?
Since you’ve begun calling Sarah vile names, we will now address the left side as Obama assholes. I really like that name..Here we go.. Obama assholes! please do your research and review the categories of the following: 20+ years mentored with racist reverend, close associate Bill Ayeres, Tony Rezco (felon), over 130 votes “present”, partly responsible for a failed school system in Chicago, Acorn-the community organization–sound familiar? that coerced businesses into giving large sums of money to their organization or they would threaten to go public with racial accusations that were completely false. Biden is basically a liar. A liar in all areas, even claiming that his wife and child were killed in a drunk driving accident. This story, while tragic, involved Biden’s first wife who
went through a stop sign and was hit by a truck driver who had the right of way. Biden himself while in the Dem primary made the statement that in no way was Obama qualified and was too inexperienced as a junior senator. Joe, we completely agree with you.
Hmmm, the run-on paragraph starters seem to have left. Time for the two-sentence relief trolls.
I guess they really don’t teach in school anymore.
Stick to the issues I am getting to old for this crap!
Maggie, have you aged a lot since Obama said republicans are going to point out he’s black, and doesn’t look like the guys on our dollar bills?
‘Cuz I’ve aged a really lot since democrats have been making accusations like that.
“You sound like an elitist. Isn’t that something you guys detest?”
Its not like there were 20+ moonbats here shouting out talking points in half-grammatical block text, or anything. BUT TEH HYPOCRISY!
Jeff, thank you for that posting. Perhaps the NYT should change their name to the Democratischer Beobachter …
Caliber of thought we’re up against:
Whoope Goldberg (to McCain): “Do I have to worry about becoming a slave again?”
Pretty bold statement from a person who didn’t have the guts to say it at the debate
Silly rabbit! Haven’t you learned yet? With Palin, timing is everything.
Alan Sanducci
Wake up red necks, we are not going to let you win this time, we have more people, we are more motivated and much more angry than you are and if it needs to come to the force we will tear you apart.
Well if you come around here you better bring plenty of firepower you will certainly need it, you see I have served in the Marines and hunted all my life and frankly your pansy ass doesn’t scare me.
We distinguish between “elite” and “elitist”. Nuance, you know.
Regards,
Ric
Obama: “Community Organizing” writ large.
Nice fascism there Obots.
thanks Goldberg for the info
Stick to the issues I am getting to old for this crap!
Obama is the issue. Sorry about your advancing age, though.
‘The political landscape is littered with the bodies of those who underestimated Sarah Palin.’
Which of you Obamatraons would like to tell us who said that?
Goodbye for the evening, everyone àl’exception de trolls.
Barak Obama fortunately knows what paling around with terrorists would mean – and that is paling around with those who might harm our country. That is something he would not do. Sarah, the so-called hockey mom, would equate a terrorist to the opposing team in a hockey match – typical of a down-home type folksy person with a simple outlook on things. She wouldn’t know a genuine terrorist if she fell over one. She’d be looking for someone dressed in the opponents jersey.
“Barak Obama fortunately knows what paling around with terrorists would mean – and that is paling around with those who might harm our country. That is something he would not do.”
That is something he would not do.
That is something he would not do.
That is something he would not do.
That is something he would not do.
Except for when he did.
Whereas Democrats just say fuck it, everybody gets Geneva protections, regardless of what they’re wearing or not wearing.
BECAUSE OF THE FAIRNESS NUANCE!
Sarah, the so-called hockey mom, would equate a terrorist to the opposing team in a hockey match – typical of a down-home type folksy person with a simple outlook on things.
I’d love to see her cross-check Osama. I think I’ll get the chance.
The trolls are really depressing me.
Steven Grumman,
So, the bombings Ayres carried out don’t qualify him as a terrorist?
I guess I don’t know the definition either. Could you enlighten me?
Terrorists are more complicated, you see. They need to be understood. Why, look at Bill Ayers, for instance! He’s a professor now! HE MADE GOOD!
And suckling at the public tit, no less.
That is something he would not do. Sarah, the so-called hockey mom, would equate a terrorist to the opposing team in a hockey match – typical of a down-home type folksy person with a simple outlook on things.
Keep up this line of attack, assholes. Please.
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned McCain’s ties with Gordon Liddy?
The trolls don’t come to debate, they come to derail.
I suppose my meager IQ is not match for the likes of O!, but you wouldn’t find me hob-nobbing with an ex terrorist.
’cause I’m simple.
Really? ‘Cause after cruising this thread (applying TrollHammer just to see how many of their comments I can make disappear), I’m in the best mood I’ve been in all week.
If this is what the typical Obamarrhoid looks like, they won’t even be able to operate the door to get into their polling places, let alone figure out how to cast a ballot.
I think the trolls are a Rovian plot. They sound so damn stupid. Honestly, who would want to be on their side?
They did, O Prince of Insufficient Light — maybe you didn’t hear it above our raucous laughter.
Comment by Karen Hale on 10/4 @ 5:26 pm #
well it will certainly get interesting once it breaks that Mccain gave the Vietcong secrets after only a couple of days in captivity.
Not to mention MUCH more…….
Please follow this line, Karen. In fact I’m begging you! Please question McCain’s service in uniform and his time as POW. Take this and run with it! Get all of your friends and maybe the media too. Please, please, please make this one of your talking points!
Rolling Stone…snort
Barak Obama fortunately knows what paling around with terrorists would mean
Paling? What is paling? Is that the opposite of darkening? That’s racist, and you should be ashamed or something.
Sarah, the so-called hockey mom, would equate a terrorist to the opposing team in a hockey match
Did you ever wonder why so many hockey players are missing teeth? Fear the wrath of hockey moms — when they adopt a nation!
But, they’re so fucking stupid. And – their vote counts just as much as mine.
I need another drink.
I’ve ‘Hammered 68 comments so far.
“well it will certainly get interesting once it breaks that Mccain gave the Vietcong secrets after only a couple of days in captivity.”
Really? Please, keep playing this line to everyone you know, it’ll work I swear.
What secrets might have Johnny Mac revealed? Or made up? Or been coerced into making up? Please enlighten us, douchenozzle.
JBean. I just got back from a week in Florida, and my normally pallid skin had acquired a bronze hue. But, right now, I’m paling.
Palin is a redneck, pure and simple! How dare she or the Republicans tell such lies! Why do they think that their way is the only way? Rubbish!
I kinda want to know how McCain was supposed to give secrets to the VietCong when he was being held captive by the NORTH VIETNAMESE ARMY.
If you stupid twats want to smear someone, at least make it plausible.
I’ve ‘Hammered 68 comments so far.
McGehee! Can you hear me?!
ANSWER ME DAMMIT!
No, seriously. Why would you deny yourself this comedy gold?
Which lies are those, dollph?
And are you really of the opinion that rednecks have no capacity for truth? Otherwise, why bring rednecks into this at all?
(These are rhetorical questions, of course. Don’t mind us. We’re here in an observational capacity. Please, do continue!)
Heh… lessee, here. …more than 40% of Americans live in towns and small cities under 200,000 in population, that’s not counting suburbs or ‘bedroom communities’ of the larger metro areas. (U.S. Census. Look it up.)
I can’t remember the exact percentage, right off hand, but something like 95% of Americans make less than $200,000 per year.
…and the rednecks have most of the guns, all of the food, farms, ranches, water, minerals, oil, coal, gas, raw materials and hydro-electric plants.
Makes a man wonder just who has alla the smarts, doesn’t it. (A statement. Not a question.)
“Paling? What is paling?”
“Carrying water for”, Obama the water boy for the SDS.
McShame really has lost it. This was discredited long ago. You all are fools for believing it and are traitors to our country. You are all about letting Rove dirty tricks steal an election again. Not this time assholes.
dollphn- it’s amazing they even allow rednecks to vote. How dare they presume to attempt to hold office.
Can’t we send them all away to some sort of concentration camp?
I figure every one of them only has one punchline to tell, so I read the first iteration of it and allow myself to skip the repetitions.
It’s like if I only have to watch the funny first twenty seconds of a five-minute SNL skit.
It was, underdog? Please, enlighten us.
Songbird is lying again. Now he has his empty headed chickadee doing it for hom.
Tell me. Did General McClellan really say the surge would work? Really? Who in their right mind would find this woman creditable? McClellan was a CIVIL WAR General!! LMFAO! You all are chumps. McCain is cutting taxes for your BOSSES, not YOU. He is cutting MY taxes and I am smart enough not to take the hook. Have a good time in the breadlines if he wins. Wear layers. It’s cold standing in line for a long time.
With Obama rising in polls while the country struggles in the grip of a financial crisis, Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign decided to shift attention away from the troubled economy and onto issues of his opponent’s character, judgment and personal associations, the Washington Post reported.
Well now we know that it’s official and McBush is nothing more than a crying looser. McBush who didn’t have an issue bringing in his side kick Caribou Barbie for votes is ready to throw more dirt and continue the lies to attempt to win the White House. I really hope these back fires and put him out in the cold with the millionaire second wife where he threw his first out for and had multiple affairs on. Yep that’s a good old God and Country. Thou shalt not commit adultery but only if she’s not a millionaire.
WOW Isn’t America great and make one proud. We got Caribou Barbie lying and throwing wrong facts around and still not able to go without having her hand held.
When people feed me this bull it makes me mad. Because they are trying to paint me stupid. If Obama had anything to do with WILLIAM AIRES at 9 years of age he must have been a master mind. It makes me so mad that they think we are so stupid we cant see through the muddy water. I HATE BEING TREATED LIKE I AM STUPID!
Wow, step away for a while and I missed the clown college parade.
That was me, dang sockpuppet.
Nice diversion attempt, Linda. Alas, they aren’t claiming he knew Ayers at age 9.
Really, do you idiots think before you post this stuff, or are you going for the “flood the forum/comments with so much crap no one can respond to all of it” tactic?
Patrick, they’re of the “I don’t have to defend my opinion, I only have to state it, and I win” school of discourse. BECAUSE OF TEH SUPPRESSION OF TEH DISSENT IN BUSHITLERBURTON’S AMERIKKKA!!!!!eleventyonethousandonehundredandeleventyone!!
No Linda, Obama began his associations with an unrepentant terrorist when Obama was an adult. Meaning he should have known better, but chose otherwise.
Also, nobody is treating you like you are stupid. Just like you are patently dishonest and shamelessly transparent. Sweety.
My posts are being dropped. Just GOOGLE IT. Or search for “Obama Ayers” on wikipedia. Or do you fear the truth. This guy is a brilliant man that can possibly clean up the last 8 years of fuckups by dumbya and his cronies.
(The secret word for “underdog” is… Projection. “Fear the truth” indeed.)
Linda, you are not stupid.Obama had NOTHING to do with Aires. Obama was only 9 years old. We evil rethuglians certainly can’t get anything by you, can we?
FOILED AGAIN.
Why won’t this link post?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama-Ayers_controversy
This is a wikipedia article that DISCREDITS this crap.
Don’t you people realize what idjits you are? Obama is CUTTING TAXES on middle class voters. He was RIGHT to oppose the war in Iraq. Yeah McINSANE was right that extra troops have stopped the hemmoraging, but for crist’s sake, it was stupid to be there in the first place. Osama bin Laden is in AFGHANISTAN.
Oh ‘Linda’ is definitely projecting, thinking we would be so stupid as to fall for her nonsense.
Undergod, we are dropping your posts, because you are simply too smart for us. Unable to counter your MASTERFUL arguments, we must simply make them go away.
GOOGLE IT.
Oooh a Wikipedia article. Here’s some real published journalism.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html
Sarah Sixpack is despate. Fortunately she has some clueless losers to cheer her on. McCain is a songbird. You all are supporting a guy that is reckless. And the F-CKING LAUGHABLE part? You HATED McCain before! Now he is your only hope to cling to power! Pathetic twerps. I am outta here. I will enjoy the McCain TAX CUT for those making 200K if he gets in. Maybe I will send you a postcard from some resort? Nah. I don’t hang with lowlifes when it isn’t election season!!
Wiki is an excellent source, but if you had some backup from Rolling Stone … well, that would be irrefutable.
Ah, the “War on Terror is only for Bin Laden at the expense of all else” theory pops up AGAIN.
Underdog I seriously doubt your posts are being dropped. I told the owner of this site to grow up once and he didn’t erase any of my comments. I would figure he would tell you to shove a frozen swordfish up your ass before he would erase any of your comments.
Underdog linked to wikipedia. Damn, he’s got us. No further research is necessary.
Plus, he called us idjits. We all bow to your superior rhetorical skill.
Any explanation why Obama might choose to lie- just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” – about his close associate, if there’s nothing to hide?
underdog: This guy is a brilliant man that can possibly clean up the last 8 years of fuckups by dumbya and his cronies.
If he is so brilliant, why does he not release his Columbia transcript? Whilst he’s at it, why not release all the other reasonably insignificant bits of documentation that would put so many other questions to rest, even from some in his own party?
As for the connection to William Ayres being a canard, let us reverse the polarity of some of the connections and apply them, rhetorically, to a generic white candidate… What would your reaction be to a candidate who entered politics via a reception in the house of a former abortion clinic bomber and attended a Christian Identity church for twenty years?
I think the point we are supposed to swallow is: “Oh NO! Palin doesn’t have all the regular people! They’re right! The election is over and O! is victorious!”
Extra points for how many of us call them stupid. You see, it shows us to be elitist and hypocritical with regards to our support of the moose-hunt’in redneck.
It’s got to be. There’s no way ALL the Obamiacs can be that illiterate.
underdog every regular on this forum knows 10 times as much about Ayers and his relationship with Zero as you sock puppets do. We have actually researched it, I know you never have. Your too stupid and it actually requires reading and stuff.
Why do all the moby’s claim to be making above 200k but not “need it”?
Palin if you’re going to throw stones betta make sure you don’t live in a glass house.
If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah’s husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.
As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.
And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there’s no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group’s annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News’ Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group’s 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here’s what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”
He also said this: “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
Vogler has also said: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
“Comment by Steven Grumman on 10/4 @ 6:57 pm #
Barack Hussein Obama fortunately knows what paling around with terrorists would mean – and that is paling around with those who might harm our country. ”
Go Hussein Go Hamas Go Obama Go CAIR, Go Weathermen, Go Chuck Manson!
Doesn’t matter CNN. The dumbed down Americans have started to get smarter. Dems are going to beat the britches off of repubs in Nov. and all your ranting and being in the tank most of the time for repubs is all for naught.
OMFG! AN EDITORIAL! BY A RIGHT WING PUNDIT! I am mortally wounded! God forbid we publish something peer reviewed in Wikipedia. I would have cited NUMEROUS OTHER REFERENCES, but you wouldn’t have read them anyway.
Does it help to know that SEVERAL REPUBLICANS SAT ON THAT SAME BOARD WITH OBAMA AND AYERS? Are they all terrorists? You all are simple fools desperately clinging to this trivial fact.
Ayers has NOTHING to do with Obama. At BEST you show they met and exchanged pleasantries. At BEST! The CAC (Chicago Annenberg Challenge) was an board with business executives from all over the political spectrum.
What a bunch of chumps.
What a wonderful thread! Thanks BMoe for pointing me here. this is a hoot! The new “visitors” have shown a collective intelligence and ability to persuade that I haven’t seen since studying flat worms in biology class. Actually, the flat worms were a little brighter.
LOL – Oh yeah I almost forgot about that – Palin sleeps with a terrorist every night and the MSM has barely covered it.
Who left the door open and let all the stupid in?
Osama bin Laden is in AFGHANISTAN.
psst! underdog the Zero talking points memo says
ObamaOsama is in Packeestan.Comment by Bob on 10/4 @ 7:51 pm #
LOL – Oh yeah I almost forgot about that – Palin sleeps with a terrorist every night and the MSM has barely covered it.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s true but she forgot to mention that while talking about Obama.
“Here’s what he had to say in a
1991Rev. Wright interview, only a few years before Barack Hussein ObamaPalinattended its convention: GOD DAMN AMERICA, AMERICA: THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.â€Âpeer… reviewed… in… Wikipedia…
vs.
The Wall Street Journal
Beautiful. This is an impressive display of ongoing moonbattery. Must have been one hell of an action alert. Obama’s people must have some internal data that tells them this is a serious threat.
denden, you know what would have been really awful? If the founder of that little group Sarah didn’t belong to actually said “God DAMN America…”
Osama bin Laden is in AFGHANISTAN.
Huh. I thought he was in Pakistan, moldering in a cave.
If we hadn’t gone to Iraq, OBL would be relaxing in an Iraqi palace, and we would be doomed in Afghanistan.
Then you should probably stick to reading dKos.
Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 7:54 pm #
“Here’s what he had to say in a 1991Rev. Wright interview, only a few years before Barack Hussein ObamaPalin attended its convention: GOD DAMN AMERICA, AMERICA: THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.â€Â
Nice try to cover up the fact that Ayers and Obama have no connection but TOD PALIN does have a connection to anti-Americans. Thanks for playin’ dre.
Ayers and Obama have no connection
Really, is that the official campaign line? Because that we be just super swell.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 7:55 pm #
denden, you know what would have been really awful? If the founder of that little group Sarah didn’t belong to actually said “God DAMN America…â€Â
No just the man she married belonged to them. You repukes are losing and now pulling out all the stops LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! Desperation truly brings out the WORST in people.
Anyone else have the feeling that we’re debating with ninth graders?
Underdog: “Does it help to know that SEVERAL REPUBLICANS SAT ON THAT SAME BOARD WITH OBAMA AND AYERS? Are they all terrorists?”
No, but they willingly associated with an unrepentant terrorist and wouldn’t get my vote for President.
Underdog: “Ayers has NOTHING to do with Obama. ”
Then why not throw him under the bus with the rest of his unfortunate and awkward associates, such as Wright, Rezko, etc.? Likewise, he certainly has a greater connection to Ayer’s than nothing — the Annenberg Challenge, the introduction / reception to Chicago politics certainly are morethan “nothing.”
Go back to drinking the Kool-Aid.
underdog —
Cite away. You’ll find that, unlike today’s visitors, the people who hang out here are quite well read. In fact, I venture to say that were I to debate you, there wouldn’t be enough “underdog” left when I was finished to fit between a pair of snack crackers.
So please. Cite. We’ll read and respond.
Intelligently.
Unlike, say, using the fact that a writer is a conservative to “prove” that what he writes about can’t possibly be factual or carefully researched. Because that would just make us look silly.
Underdog,
Wikipedia? Seriously, if you can’t get past the first two or three options in a Google search then what the hell good are you? You are getting boring.
Comment by ThomasD on 10/4 @ 7:58 pm #
Ayers and Obama have no connection
Really, is that the official campaign line? Because that we be just super swell.
Keep them coming. TODD PALIN was a member of and ANTI-AMERICAN GROUP!!! Funny how Sarah didn’t mention she married someone who like that. Now that she is running, but can criticize Obama. LOL!!!! Those things come back to haunt you later. Wait until the media starts reporting this.
denden91:
Which is why we’re infesting blogs and forums used by our political opponents spouting whatever crap we can think up in the hope that it will stick. Oh wait, that’s you guys.
Carin: “Anyone else have the feeling that we’re debating with ninth graders?”
You’re far more generous than I… Biden was only operating on a near eighth grade level at the debate and these poltroons make him seem scholarly.
Oddly, I suspect we agree with you.
Denden – you know you’re an idiot, right? I mean, I’m just having fun here, because you’re so obviously weak minded it’s not worth it to have any sort of meaningful debate.
You do understand that we’re all playing with you (and all your friends), right? Like a cat does with a mouse it doesn’t really want to eat.
“Nice try to cover up the fact that Ayers and Obama have no connection”
i like caps: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, NOT BEING A CITIZEN OF THE USA, WAS ON THE BOARD OF THE CHICAGO ANNENBURG CHALLENGE WITH THE BOMBER AYERS. THE MUSLIM NON CITIZEN OF THE USA DISPENSED $150,000,000 TO THE COMMUNISTS IN THE CHICAGO AREA.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 10/4 @ 8:00 pm #
Carin: “Anyone else have the feeling that we’re debating with ninth graders?â€Â
You’re far more generous than I… Biden was only operating on a near eighth grade level at the debate and these poltroons make him seem scholarly.
And I suppose that Palin is a genius. LOL!!!
I am forcibly reminded of Kate MacMillan’s semi-regular “Not Waiting for the Asteroid” feature.
These are CNN’s viewers and readers. This is CNN’s target audience. These are the people CNN describes to advertisers (assuming they are honest, which they may not be) in order for the said advertisers to know which part to sponsor. We’ve got thirty or forty unique monikers not previously encountered, and maybe three of them can manage coherent exposition without cut and paste. What would you try to sell these folks?
This isn’t just “not waiting”. This is a full-throated asteroid dance, complete with steel drums, nose-flutes, and the ritual distribution of black and white sands in concentric circles to complete the Sacred Pattern. It is perhaps a bit cynical to wish them success.
Regards,
Ric
LOL – Oh yeah I almost forgot about that – Palin sleeps with a terrorist every night and the MSM has barely covered it.
Fear the snowmachine jihad!! All your women will wear parkas, by the whiskers of Nanook!
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:02 pm #
Denden – you know you’re an idiot, right? I mean, I’m just having fun here, because you’re so obviously weak minded it’s not worth it to have any sort of meaningful debate.
You do understand that we’re all playing with you (and all your friends), right? Like a cat does with a mouse it doesn’t really want to eat.
I’m an ididot? You support McCain/Palin. Nuff said.
denden91 —
The factcheck.org link debunking the AIP / T Palin smear has been linked several times in this very thread. If you can’t be bothered to engage, don’t bother posting.
No less than the AP debunked that story. Again, look it up. Or do a site search. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!
Gosh do you think when Obama was closer to Ayers than McCain was to Charles Keating?
denden91: “TODD PALIN was a member of and ANTI-AMERICAN GROUP!!! Funny how Sarah didn’t mention she married someone who like that. Now that she is running, but can criticize Obama. LOL!!!! Those things come back to haunt you later. Wait until the media starts reporting this.”
Two small problems, denden. The first and most obvious one would be that the MSM has already shot their wad trying to smear Palin in this campaign and accomplished nothing. Their credibility on the matter is pretty well shot. The second is that, were they to do so and be proven wrong yet again, all they would accomplish would be to make Palin look better. Thirty days in an election is a long time, despite the lede being pushed at the moment.
Gotta go do some rednecky stuff. Back later.
GO GET ‘EM, OBAMABOTS!
William Ayers, as a member of Weather Underground. declared war on the United States. Ayers has never repudiated that statement. Obama is his friend and close political associate.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/4 @ 8:04 pm #
denden91 –
The factcheck.org link debunking the AIP / T Palin smear has been linked several times in this very thread. If you can’t be bothered to engage, don’t bother posting.
No less than the AP debunked that story. Again, look it up. Or do a site search. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!
And Obama has no ties to Ayers. Look it up. Or do a site search. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!
Obama has no ties to Ayers I’d like to hear the Obama campaign say that.
I think we can all agree that tonight’s brain-dead trolls need help. An intervention. They obviously have drunk deeply of Obama’s marxist, racist kool-aid. They support a candidate who would normally be an empty suit, if he were not laden with so much ideological baggage. Friends with a domestic terrorist Bill Ayers who bombed the Pentagon. Friends with a racist preacher who demonizes America. Friends with a stone crook.
Obama supporters are fools. The worst kind of fools- the kind that doesn’t know it.
Dumdum91: You should follow you own advice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)
That’s Obama’s close political associate (and his murderer wife), right there.
Wikifuckinpedia!!!!!eleventy!!!!!
Sadly, we are not (or should not be) at all surprised at Mrs. Palin’s behavior. This young politician–in her abysmal ignorance–has forgotten the basic principle of this election: the real issues. True, Ayers is and should be considered a terrorist. It should be assumed that he has been under careful watch for quite some time. He probably has been–and will always be–on the “list†of volatile people whom we do not need amongst us. However, to attach Senator Obama to such a radical movement is absurd. Clearly, Senator McCain is resorting to the lowest form of political campaigning. This attitude responds to fear. He knows this election is virtually lost in favor of change and the only tool left for them to use is allegation. I could not care less about Ayers and I would have preferred to see him behind bars for life, possibly sharing a cell with OJ Simpson. However, Senator Obama has rejected Ayers’ views publicly and distanced himself from this character at all times. I fear Ms. Palin’s views and lack of understanding above all else. In terms of the unthinkable, I fear that Senator McCain is far too senior to leave the highest office in the land in the hands of such an incompetent person. Incidentally, have we forgotten her association with the AIP in Alaska? Talk about radical and fanatical. When the founder of the group you support openly states that “the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government… And I won’t be buried under their damn flag†we need to worry because these are “unidentified†and seriously troubled people who could inflict great anxiety in our form of Government. We had a similar situation back in 1861 and it cost us a great deal of anguish, remember?
Beyond Ayers, I need to focus on a loftier issue that has been created by our current administration…the $700 Billion loan that we just signed into law. If this fails, the consequences will be–no longer “could beâ€Â–disastrous. Between my mortgage, my kid’s college fund, my own debt, my medical concerns, and the price of gas that I desperately need to get to work and protect my job, Ms. Palin’s allegations are the absolute least of my concerns and I find them to be as preposterous as they are ignorant. I believe she could use a “six pack†right about now to kill the big bug she has up her butt (pardon my rudeness) and move on to 2012. This is good training for her. Well, anticipating that she has a folder for lessons learned.
denden91: “And I suppose that Palin is a genius. LOL!!!”
Assumes facts not in evidence, although I suspect that anyone who feels the need to post “lol” in caps in the course of a political debate is probably not all that interested in an honest exchange of ideas and is, in all probability, one of the poltroons I was discussing before.
Now, for the record, *I* was not the individual making the judgement on the level of erudition displayed by Joe Biden.
“(CNN) — An analysis carried out by a language monitoring service said Friday that Gov. Sarah Palin spoke at a more than ninth-grade level and Sen. Joseph Biden spoke at a nearly eighth-grade level in Thursday night’s debate between the vice presidential candidates.”
Here’s the bottom lone for all of yu McCaininites. Fact: McCain has no answers for the economy. He is behind and it is getting bigger everyday and just like the McCain campaign you are all worried. McCain pulled out of Michigan because he is spending too much money there and Obama is leading or down by 1 to 3 points in Missouri, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada and Colorado. You now have to throw the long ball, hoping that someone will catch it. Ask Hillary how well that worked out for her. ;-)
Lets see, the husband of the rep VP pick belonged to an Alaska political party that had separatist members, but nothing about that in their platform, vs. the dem presidential pick that had Ayers, Wright, and Rezko in his background.
And you think the husband is more relivant and more deserving of media scrutiny?
Have you guys thought this out?
“#Comment by cindy on 10/4 @ 8:05 pm #
Gosh do you think when Obama was closer to Ayers than McCain was to Charles Keating?”
No McCain, being bipartisan, was much closer to the 4 DEMORATS that made up the KEATING 1 R + 4 D’S
You support McCain/Palin. Nuff said.
And you support a Zero
zero birth certificate
zero college transcripts
zero legal writings
zero bills sponsored
zero executive experience (except for CAC which he distances himself from.
Enuff said!
“Pals around with terrorists.†This is absurd and an insult to our intelligence. The issue has been debunked by several other publications – Washington Post, Time (magazine), Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The National Review. Apparently, she did not read nor research the matter further before speaking.
It was bad enough Palin’s comments with the press regarding McCain conceding in Michigan; for which she acknowledged that she only learned of McCain’s intention after reading it in the news paper on Friday and, obviously, was not part of the decision. Now this comment! For Gov Palin having a degree in journalism, this is neither impressive nor convincing of her credentials. Say it ain’t so John — please, say it ain’t so!
However, to attach Senator Obama to such a radical movement is absurd.
No need to attach Obama to Ayers – Obama already did it himself, years ago, and there’s a big fat paper trail to prove it.
Ah, finally. “Carlos” has graduated to the “Bargaining” stage, whilst the others are still jumping between “Anger” and “Denial” like hyperactive fleas.
Actually, Carin, I’ve known five year-olds who could out-hustle these trolls. Those five year-olds *were* more intelligent and better educated, but who’s countin’.
#394
I would love! Love! To have some of what you’re on. Just not as much as you took. What’s it like from your side? Other than the dementia, I mean.
And Obama has no ties to Ayers. Look it up. Or do a site search. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!
Even that Wiki entry linked to by a fellow Obot details extensive ties. Get your lies straight, bright boy.
Obama, who was sworn into office in January 2005, spent much of his time in the Senate taking a high-profile position as spokesman for Democrats’ efforts to overhaul congressional ethics standards, including his own bid to make Senate colleagues pay the full charter rate, rather than first-class airfare, for rides in corporate jets. The effort drew the ire of such senior senators as Ted Stevens of Alaska, whose state is so big that corporate planes are often the only way to get around. Senate leaders included that jet travel requirement in a lobbying practices and disclosures bill signed into law in September 2007.
But as a member of the minority party, Obama also worked across the aisle with Republicans to push several measures that became law in 2006.
Working with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Obama won enactment of a law creating a single, searchable database of all federal contracts, grants and loans.
He also partnered with senior Indiana Republican Sen. Richard Lugar, the former chairman of the Foreign Relations panel, to sponsor legislation to strengthen international efforts to destroy conventional weapons, though it did not advance out of committee.
Separately, Obama was lead sponsor of a bill to provide relief and promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo, which was signed into law in December 2006.
He introduced legislation in 2005 to require federal preparations for an avian flu pandemic, but it didn’t advance.
And he weighed in on another “good government†initiative during congressional debate on tougher lobbying disclosure standards, by backing the creation of an independent “Office of Public Integrity†that would investigate congressional ethics cases and receive and monitor financial disclosure reports required from members of Congress, officers and employees of Congress and lobbyists. The bid failed in 2006 due to opposition from members of the Senate Ethics Committee, who said it would politicize the panel. Another attempt to include it in the Democrats’ ethics bill failed in early 2007.
Obama’s tendency to focus on nonidelogical issues is pragmatic, because they tend not to have powerful enemies or, if they do, are shielded by solid support in both parties. But some of his initiatives have languished, either because he was a junior member of the Democratic caucus or because they encountered institutional resistance. One would have rewarded troubled school districts with extra federal help in exchange for deep changes.
Comment by Carlos on 10/4 @ 8:10 pm #
“Between my mortgage, my kid’s college fund, my own debt, my medical concerns, and the price of gas that I desperately need to get to work and protect my job,”
DRILL HERE,DRILL NOW,BABY
Honestly, there must have been one hell of an “action alert” sent out today.
You Obamabots scare me.
The issue has been debunked by several other publications – Washington Post, Time (magazine), Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The National Review.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDAyNDRmYzY1NTc5OGFmYmQ5ZTdjY2JlMGY0NGViOWE=
Oh dear. I think that’s called being hoisted by your own retard, you clueless simpleton.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:15 pm #
Honestly, there must have been one hell of an “action alert†sent out today.
You Obamabots scare me.
You McCaininites are truly scary.
Palin is exactly the reason traditionally Republican families like ours are voting for Obama this year. Word was already out a few days ago that the McCain campaign was going to use the negative approach as a last-ditch desperate measure. When you have Republican families like ours jumping ship then you know the Republican candidate is completely unqualified for the job. McCain is an elitist anyway, his tax and medical plans only help the richest people in this country.
“But as a member of the minority party, Obama also worked across the aisle with Republicans to push several measures that became law in 2006.”
Nice Post Office Barack Hussein Obama named.
I mean, honestly you are all the same. You make the EXACT same points using the same code words. You look like a bunch of brain-dead assholes.
So, in other words, denden, the man has no signature issues he’ll can lay claim to, no real record of reaching across the aisle to accomplish anything truly useful to the American people and, with a 96% Democratic voting record, nothing to show any real willingness to stand up to his own party.
Just another liberal socialist from the Daley machine.
Bullshit Rob. You, my friend, are a liar.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:18 pm #
I mean, honestly you are all the same. You make the EXACT same points using the same code words. You look like a bunch of brain-dead assholes.
Your brain must be hurting to come up with such a brilliant response. You need some gatorade or something?
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:19 pm #
Bullshit Rob. You, my friend, are a liar.
All the profanity isn’t necessary. As I said earlier, desperation brings out the worst in some people.
“Word was already out a few days ago that the Barack Hussein Obama, who has a muslim father and in Egypt that means he is a muslim
McCaincampaign was going to use the negative approach as a last-ditch desperate measure.Here’s more of the National Review ‘debunking’
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI0MjY3NzMyODgxZGM2ZjUwNTE1MmEzOGRiZmFkNWE=
So by all means, Bev Alabama, keep those hits a comin!
denden, you are an asshole because “we” are not McCainites. I don’t even know what percentage of us are voting for him. We haven’t drunk the koolaid, and you won’t find any of us cheerleading for McCain.
You are a O-Zombie. We are not.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 10/4 @ 8:18 pm #
So, in other words, denden, the man has no signature issues he’ll can lay claim to, no real record of reaching across the aisle to accomplish anything truly useful to the American people and, with a 96% Democratic voting record, nothing to show any real willingness to stand up to his own party.
Just another liberal socialist from the Daley machine.
And what can McCain lay claim to in 26 years? He must have a long list. Although we haven’t seen it.
denden blathered:
As I said earlier, desperation brings out the worst in some people.
As I said: like going to blogs/forums used by political opponents flooding comments with-er, oh wait. That’s you.
Hey, did I say something about jangly nerves being well hit? Could I have hoped for a better confirmation than what has ensued here for the last couple of hours? Damn.
You should be scared Carin these fools are nothing but Nazi brownshirts, except their to stupid to read a little history. Such as what happened to the brownshirts once the SS was established and they were no longer needed.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:21 pm #
denden, you are an asshole because “we†are not McCainites. I don’t even know what percentage of us are voting for him. We haven’t drunk the koolaid, and you won’t find any of us cheerleading for McCain.
You are a O-Zombie. We are not.
Already proudly voted for Obama. And the name callin’ LOL!!! I say again desperation.
“#Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:18 pm #
I mean, honestly you are all the same. You make the EXACT same points using the same code words. You look like a bunch of brain-dead assholes.”
Ladies and gentlemen: DAVID AXELROD!
So, to summarize for the comprehension impaired.
Obama threw alot of money at his anti-American terrorist friend.
I don’t feel like coming up with anything more inspired, because (honestly) you’ve brought nothing to the table.
And, rob is a liar (I’ll swear when I feel like it, thankyouverymuch) because he’s not a life-long Republican. That is a LIE. It’s a sad, pitiful, pathetic, embarrassing lie. No conservative would EVER EVER vote for Obama. He would sit out the election.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 10/4 @ 8:22 pm #
denden blathered:
As I said earlier, desperation brings out the worst in some people.
As I said: like going to blogs/forums used by political opponents flooding comments with-er, oh wait. That’s you.
Another desperate one.
You know, I love it how these folks seem to think that simply by claiming to be a “Republican” and then spouting the Democrat talking points will make people flock to the Democrat side.
I mean, it got old back in 2003 or so. Even earlier.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:23 pm #
I don’t feel like coming up with anything more inspired, because (honestly) you’ve brought nothing to the table. (I’ll swear when I feel like it, thankyouverymuch)
Simply because your mind doesn’t know what else to say.
denden: “And what can McCain lay claim to in 26 years? He must have a long list.”
Let us start with the bill with his name on it — McCain-Feingold — campaign finance reform — was rather popular with your side, as I recall.
Bipartisan, passed and made no one particularly happy. Is there anything Obama has done that compares?
Could I have hoped for a better confirmation than what has ensued here for the last couple of hours? Damn.
Yes, it’s something isn’t it? Any reports from other websites, or are they all just converging here?
You McCaininites are truly scary.
Yeah, I can tell by the way you come here and paste Obama propaganda.
You must be shaking in your boots.
You are my hero. It’s because you are so brave.
“And what can McCain lay claim to in 26 years? He must have a long list.â€Â
Never having supported any marxist revolutionary or domestic terrorist the likes of William Ayers is certainly one item on that list.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 10/4 @ 8:26 pm #
denden: “And what can McCain lay claim to in 26 years? He must have a long list.â€Â
Let us start with the bill with his name on it  McCain-Feingold  campaign finance reform  was rather popular with your side, as I recall.
Bipartisan, passed and made no one particularly happy. Is there anything Obama has done that compares?
Lugar/Obama Nuclear Proliferation Bill; preventing stockpile Russian Nuclear weapons from ending up in terrorist hands.
“Another desperate one.”
He said, frantically posting as much as he can in “enemy territory” so the “TRUTH” can be KNOWN!
Or perhaps “denden” is engaging in a psychological defense mechanism known as projection…
The McCain/Palin camp must real desperate to sink to this level of sleaze, this is right out of the Karl Rove playbook, this attack has certainly changed my view of McCain. A maverick? I don’t think so, I was disappointed when he picked Palin and not Lieberman, but this has driven me over the edge. I wouldn’t vote for this guy even if he was running against Bush.
Did you notice how Obama’s contribution the the Nunn-Lugar bill had nothing to do with nuclear weapons? Funny that.
Believe what you want, denden. But you haven’t brought one issue, here, worthy of debate. So I mock and toy.
Because, I have this feeling that you are impervious to reason.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 10/4 @ 8:26 pm #
denden: “And what can McCain lay claim to in 26 years? He must have a long list.â€Â
Let us start with the bill with his name on it  McCain-Feingold  campaign finance reform  was rather popular with your side, as I recall.
Bipartisan, passed and made no one particularly happy. Is there anything Obama has done that compares?
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included
The one I already mentioned
the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006â€â€became law.
The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate.
The 2007 Government Ethics Billâ€â€became law.
The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.
Heh. We disagree with them, so we must be stupid…or else supporting their ideological opponent.
If you do the research, you’ll find that the Republicans are national socialists in all but name. Meanwhile, the Democrats are almost openly communist…in all but name.
On the third hand, this is a blog owned and maintained by an independent libertarian. (W/o a forty-page white paper, that’s probably about as close as anyone will ever get to describing Jeff’s politics in a two-word descriptive.)
The trolls are so friggin’ ignorant that they think the world is black and white.
(I know. I shouldn’t feed the trolls…but these guys are just so much fun…)
The scary part is, they seem to think that the use of force, personal intimidation, verbal abuse and physical threats are convincing arguments. Actually, that’s a tactic commonly used by cult leaders and organizations.
this attack has certainly changed my view of McCain…
Oh ‘Rob.’ don’t go so soon, stay a while, and we’ll ‘discuss’ your ‘views.’
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:30 pm #
Believe what you want, denden. But you haven’t brought one issue, here, worthy of debate. So I mock and toy.
Because, I have this feeling that you are impervious to reason.
Thanks for playin’
Rob like Carin said you are a liar, and no one on this site is naive enough to believe you.
Thomas D., you responded to my post by writing that “Obama already did it himself, years ago, and there’s a big fat paper trail to prove it.” I must admit that I am somewhat familiar whith Ayers and his radical views, but the allegation that Sen. Obama was intricately associated with him took me by surprise. I cannot honestly say that he is or he is not based on my limited knowledge of this particular aspect of the whole subject. I do not advocate–in the most non-partisan spirit–association with radical organizations. I had, however, assumed that by the time a candidate makes it to the final stretch, all angles have been taken into consideration. Beyond this, there are reputable news publications that claim that such an association does not exists. In sum, I will have to read more to respond…well…to respond again.
So denden91, if you are being sooo honest, tell us – what brought you to this little corner of the intarwebs? Google search? Just out looking for new territory? Linked in from another website? do tell.
Rob, you’re supposed to use the appropriate code phrases like:
“…as a lifelong Republican” ™ and
“…as a Concerned Christian” ™
…in your Moby postings. That’ll make those of us who Do Not See The Lightness of O! flock to his cause. Or something.
In a minute ThomasD.
Still waiting on Dread Cthulhu to get back to me on McCain’s legislation in 26 years.
Have these Obamaniacs no shame? I mean! Outsourcing their comment spamming efforts to some country where english is not the first language and putting our native-born illiterates out of work!
Well Carlos, that was a most evenhanded response. I wish you well in your endeavors. You might wish to start with the articles I’ve linked from Stanley Kurtz that have appeared in the Wall Street Journal and National Review.
I think all of us who truly seek the truth in this matter agree that it would be best if Obama simply sat down with a serious journalist who has spent time on the matter and went on the record regarding the specifics.
I was disappointed when he picked Palin and not Lieberman, but this has driven me over the edge.
Really? How did you feel when Obama didn’t pick Lieberman? Or Hillary for that matter.
I never liked McCain, My vote is going to be against the socialist, not for the Maverick. If he had picked Lieberman, a liberal democrat, he wouldn’t have even got that.
And he still wouldn’t have gotten your vote either, admit it.
Whatever denden. That you find Palin’s tenuous grasp with an Alaskan separatist group more an issue than Obama’s association with BLT and Ayers suggests that you and rational thought are not closely acquainted.
Oh hey, there’s some useful things in Wikipedia. Probably mostly accurate too, though I think Weber’s Infodumps are better sources if info.
The starmap is neat too.
I have come to the unavoidable conclusion that in addition to possessing a less than basic understanding of the U.S. Constitution and the seperation of powers detailed therein, Sarah Palin is at her core an insufferable cunt.
“I had, however, assumed that by the time a candidate makes it to the final stretch, all angles have been taken into consideration.”
By whom and by what media?
Thomas D., I’ve always believed that blogs were a learning experience. Let’s see how it goes. Thanks.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:39 pm #
Whatever denden. That you find Palin’s tenuous grasp with an Alaskan separatist group more an issue than Obama’s association with BLT and Ayers suggests that you and rational thought are not closely acquainted.
Palin is an airhead and embarrassment to the political process and you all know it. It was interesting to see Palin admit that Republicans/Conservatives are for civil unions.
“Sarah Palin is at her core an insufferable cunt.”
Joey Hairplugs is opening at Las Vegas on Nov. 6.
“Vogler has also said: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.—
Sounds like a black seperatists, don’t he?
Holy crap! People are still operating under the assumption that MSM outlets are still credible?
Looks like denden is doing the whole argumentum ad nauseam thing…
Beyond this, there are reputable news publications that claim that such an association does not exists. In sum, I will have to read more to respond…well…to respond again.
Carlos — please do read more.
When you find out the truth, perhaps you’ll revisit your characterization of those “news organizations” as “reputable”.
Here’s another question for you:
You’ve been hearing from those same “reputable” “news organizations” that Palin is borderline retarded, never reads anything, has no knowledge of foreign policy, etc.
I assume you watched the debate (if not, please do; the full debate is online in several venues).
Ask yourself how this lightweight bumpkin managed to hold her own so well against a 36 year congressional veteran who is the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Does her performance in the live debate match what you’ve seen in the carefully-edited “interviews” with Couric and Gibson?
Next, ask yourself how this Neanderthal hick managed to rack up a 75% approval rating among Democrats in her home state. Does it seem likely that the media version of Palin would manage to do that?
You know, really, the panic evident in these Obama supporters has me feeling better about McCain’s chances in this election than I have in a couple of weeks. So thanks for lifting my spirits there, all you faithful Obama acolytes, and to think all it took was Palin injecting a tiny bit of truth telling into the conversation. Splendid. Really.
Outside perspective: In Germany we had, from 1998 to 2005, a government full of politicians who not only talked to homegrown left wing radicals in the 60’s, but supported some of them actively by, for example, hiding them from the police force. Our foreign affairs minister, Joschka Fischer, the guy who had the balls to confront Rumsfeld, even beat and hurt officers back then. But 30 years later all of them did an excellent job in office. Unemployment is half now from what it was before. So what’s the big deal then with Obama knowing somebody, distantly, who meant trouble a long time ago? I wonder what dubious friends McCain has to offer. The world comes in shades of grey.
“Palin is an airhead and embarrassment to the political process and you all know it.”
Joey Hairplugs and Barack Hussein Obama had a contested election WHEN?
Palin is an airhead and embarrassment to the political process and you all know it.
And yet she made a 36+ year Senator into a gaffe-O-matic and outright liar on national TV.
Go figure.
Carlos – one of our concerns (I believe I speak for more than just myself) is that those who are supposed to investigate this stuff have given Obama a pass, while burning the midnight oil to uncover the most inconsequential stuff regarding Palin. After years in the spotlight, there should be little of mystery regarding the One. But … strangely … there are these huge gaping holes that no one seems to have the time or interest to investigate.
But … regarding Trig’s birth? THEY ARE ON THE CASE!
Can you not SEE why conservatives are suspect? To deny this is to merely admit one is a partisan hack.
Dre, what I meant was that each party would select a candidate that represented the highest ethical and moral values, according to commonly-recognized standards. In the case of fanatical and/or radical organizations–particularly those with terrorist tendencies–I have serious doubts that either party would engage people with ties to any of these organizations. Well, one would hope…
Dread Cthulhu I introduced you to some of Obama’s legislative accomplishments but you have given me one for McCain. Now I know good and well that in 26 years of being in Washington he has more than that. Should not be that hard to find with all of his years of experience. C’mon now.
“Desperation truly brings out the WORST in people.”
Yeah, like you posting on PW.
Pitiful, just pitiful.
Does anyone take Sarah palin serious? the woman is a bimbo, and as far as values, lets see her unwed, underage teenage daughter is working on her 2nd kid (yes, the one Sarah claims, is her daughters kid) I have also heard rumor of incest. this woman can’t even answer a question right, has anyone watched the debate or her interviews, and she wants to be heartbeat away from being president, I don’t think so.
I have come to the unavoidable conclusion that in addition to possessing a less than basic understanding of the U.S. Constitution and the seperation of powers detailed therein, Sarah Palin
I have come to the unavoidable conclusion that Axelrod needs to start hiring a better class of troll.
By the way, “Michael”, your boy Hairplugs is the one who gaffed on the Constitution, not Palin, and he’s supposedly an expert on Constitutional law.
Ah, Andy Sullivan has arrived.
As one of your own conservatives said, “If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street by herself.”
Sounds like a black seperatists, don’t he?
Do you think Todd, husband of the VP pick, titled one of his autobiographies by quoting Vogler?
“So what’s the big deal then with Obama knowing somebody, intimately
distantly, who meant trouble on September 11, 2001ba long time ago?”It was interesting to see Palin admit that Republicans/Conservatives are for civil unions.
Well, I suppose it is interesting for someone who has never … you know … talked to a republican/conservative.
But, you know … babysteps denden.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 8:45 pm #
“Desperation truly brings out the WORST in people.â€Â
Yeah, like you posting on PW.
Pitiful, just pitiful.
This is just fun for me watching you people getting so bent out of shape.
Think this would stun some of the Obamabots?
When Palin isn’t being a “bimbo” “cunt,” she sometimes makes executive decisions.
Obama, on the other hand, has a proven ability to campaign.
A wash, basically.
Carlos, I’d invite you to spend some time in the archives here (now there’s a learning experience) especially to see that McCain, and his statist tendencies, have not received a universally warm welcome here. The other posters really are not being coy, much of the support you see here for him is more so default opposition to what we see from (and in) Obama (and his premature coronation by an incurious and incredulous media establishment.)
“You McCaininites are truly scary.”
Ah, that explains it.
No connection to reality.
AT. All.
Comment by Carin on 10/4 @ 8:49 pm #
It was interesting to see Palin admit that Republicans/Conservatives are for civil unions.
Well, I suppose it is interesting for someone who has never … you know … talked to a republican/conservative.
But, you know … babysteps denden.
Actually I talk to conservatives everyday at work. They are nice people, unlike some of you on here with your insults and profanity etc.
“I meant was that each party would select a candidate that represented the highest ethical and moral values, according to commonly-recognized standards”
You Euros are on a different planet.
Spies, I have watched the debate. There was great anticipation for it. In my case, I was not at all focused on how well she would rebound from the Kuric interview. I wanted to see if she could actually step up to the plate. And she did just that. When you place a young politician with limited experience against a senior Senator, the outcome was expected. However, I was discussing the issue of Sen. Obama’s association with this other group and accepting that I had little in-depth knowledge of it. I will, however, come back and retract if necessary. It would only be fair.
Oh lets see who attend a church with a witch doctor? Who’s son joined the military because of being a drug addict? Who’s 17 year old daughter is knocked up and parties all the time? Who husband belonged to a group that wants to leave American?
WoW people who live in glass igloos should not throw stones!
Maccain Shut this women up she is losing the election for you .
I use to respect you since little Carboo Barbie I wonder about your stability!
The fact that Obama knows Bill Ayers gives him counter-terrorist experience, this is based on the same fact that Palin has foreign policy experience by being Governor of Alaska.
I assume you watched the debate (if not, please do; the full debate is online in several venues).
P.S. make sure to watch the whole thing, not “highlights” selected by one of those “reputable news organizations”.
I’m not even asking you to admit that Palin won (though she did). I’m asking you to decide for yourself whether the Palin in the debate is consistent with the “Palin” you’ve seen in those “reputable news organizations”.
You trolls are truly a thing to behold. Palin is a cunt and a bimbo. Makes me ashamed I ever was a democrat.
It’s funny, though, because through the years we’ve seen liberal democrats pulls some pretty repulsive smears out.
Dre, I live in Washington, D.C… I have for the past 38 years. I serve our federal Government. Trust me, I am very much in YOUR planet.
Oh lets see who attend a church with a witch doctor?
Who is an illiterate?
Ana, that’s who.
Maccain Shut this women up she is losing the election for you .
I knew if we kept digging they’d start showing their tells.
Comment by ana on 10/4 @ 8:52 pm #
Maccain Shut this women up she is losing the election for you .
I use to respect you since little Carboo Barbie I wonder about your stability!
Gotta correct ya here. McCain is losing it by himself. Now Sarah does help, but saying the fundementals of the economy are strong just doesn’t help you.
“They are nice people, unlike some of you on here with your insults and profanity etc.”
Yo Progg link is your friend unless you are an asshole.
I don’t think this has any legs at all. It’s a bunch of breastheaving on the right but given Palen’s traction, I don’t see the existential creep.
Carlos, unfortunately for you, you made the rules.
It is thoroughly established that an endorsement by a pastor whose church the candidate never attended is such a total black mark that the said candidate must absolutely repudiate that support, and can be criticized for being insufficiently insulting in doing so.
You and your fellows are now attempting to establish that a candidate’s spouse‘s association with a fringe political party that is, in reality, primarily a drinking club is disqualifying.
Very well, we can operate under that set of constraints. It means that any past association, however tentative, remote, or tangential, with anyone who can be described in less than savory terms is to be forcefully aired, and pounded upon until the candidate admits it, repudiates it, and begs forgiveness on bended knee. You set it up that way. You have no complaint.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 8:53 pm #
The fact that Obama knows Bill Ayers gives him counter-terrorist experience, this is based on the same fact that Palin has foreign policy experience by being Governor of Alaska.
Well she can see Russia from there.
Obama clearly has a problem with women, and he’s not prepared to deal with round two with the Barracuda.
He wanted to talk about healthcare.
Bwahahahaha.
“#Comment by Carlos on 10/4 @ 8:54 pm #
Dre, I live in Washington, D.C… I have for the past 38 years. I serve our federal Government. Trust me, I am very much in YOUR planet.”
MOOSE HUNTER NOW !!!!!
So, all you obamabots, please explain to me why The Messiah’s long term relationship with Rev. Jeramiah Wright is any different than, say,if he had a long term relationship with George Lincoln Rockwell?
“Comment by Carlos on 10/4 @ 8:54 pm #
Dre, I live in Washington, D.C… I have for the past 38 years. I serve our federal Government. Trust me, I am very much in YOUR planet.”
You just proved you DON’T.
Actually I talk to conservatives everyday at work. They are nice people, unlike some of you on here with your insults and profanity etc.
Wait, you came here. Spoiling for a fight.
Then you complain about the reception?
You got yourself in here, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
– The Democrats are not the Democrats your daddy knew.
– The Democrats are now the Marxicrats, and they run Marx-o-Socialists as their candidates.
– Obama will do well in Russia.
Oh well McCaininites it’s been fun irritating you for a little bit. Dread Cthulhu check on McCain’s legislative accomplishments in 26 years and get back to me. Awight, peace.
Actually I talk to conservatives everyday at work. They are nice people, unlike some of you on here with your insults and profanity etc.
Shit, did my potty mouth put you out? Funny, because Palin’s folksy talk was offputting, and now my more colorful colloquialism doesn’t sit right either.
But, I will own my insults. Because, denden, you are a lightweight.
Carlos is a better class of astroturfer.
(Damn. This Greek Chorus stuff is kinda fun…)
Well, GLR is kinda dead, there, N. O’Brain., so technically, that relationship would be more like a TV show than like, you know, real life.
John Maverick Mccain, the champion of defeating earmarks on bills, votes YES on probably one of the most important bills of our time, at least with Obama we expected it.
Comment by ThomasD on 10/4 @ 8:56 pm #
Obama clearly has a problem with women, and he’s not prepared to deal with round two with the Barracuda.
He wanted to talk about healthcare.
Bwahahahaha.
I thought people wanted to talk about issues that affect them. palin doesn’t affect Obama.
Bwahahahaha.
Well I suppose she has to resort to cheap theatrics over substance. And this is the person the Republicans are putting up for the top office in the country. Not only is she the most uninformed politician I have witnessed, but she is also a vicious person. Why not stick to the issues? But then I forgot that she does not know them. McCain could have done better; shame on him, making a mockery of this serious contest.
Carlos is a better class of astroturfer.
Actually, I think I kinda like Carlos.
I hope he sticks around.
WoW people who live in glass igloos should not throw stones!
At least they are using a little imagination with this particular talking point.
What’s this, the fourth way it has been said?
Ric,
I believe that both sides have associations that they would rather erase from this campaign. I am not concerned with either. However, it was Ms. Palin who fired the first shot. Having said that, my commitment here is to learn more about what I just decried as preposterous. But you have to give me some time to read about it, as I told Thomas D.
Thanks.
It was a hypothetical, SD. I’m waiting for one of the reactionary leftist heads to explode.
Remember, the Nazis were Socialists, too.
Palin doesn’t even know where McCain stands on issues.
And this is the person the Republicans are putting up for the top office in the country.
Vice President is higher than President now? Who knew?
Cheney, you magnificent bastard.
Barack Hussein Obama: GET IN THEIR FACE!
palin doesn’t affect Obama.
Then why the fuck doesn’t Obama just get on with his planned healthcare talkies? Why is he getting taken off message?
Your nancy boy is getting slapped around by a girl.
“I thought people wanted to talk about issues that affect them. palin doesn’t affect Obama.”
Then why is the vein in your forehead throbbing like that?
You all are not fit to polish the boots of Joe Vogler. Crybabies all of ya. If you had a spine, you would all damn america and their flag. Sarah Palin has guts, but she can’t show you her true colors yet. She’s gotten a special assignment from the AIP leader that you aren’t going to believe, so I can tell it to you and you will laugh. It’s amazing how much truth is out there in front of your noses while you chase the phantoms of the media manipulators. Go on and believe the Ayers fantasy. The republicans on that same CAC board were plants to fake you out.
“Well I suppose she has to resort to cheap theatrics over substance.”
BECAUSE OF THE HOPINESS AND THE CHANGITUDE!!!!!!
“….at least with Obama we expected it.”
– Yes. It must have been a flaming bitch to your indoctrinated skull to have to sit here for the past 20 months and watch CandyMan throw every one of your Leftist dogmas under the MagicBus, one by one.
– But hey. Once you drink the koolaid there’s no going back, right?
“I believe that both sides have associations that they would rather erase from this campaign”
You are right! Barack Hussein Obama hanging out with Communists John McCain being hanged by Communists.
Comment by ThomasD on 10/4 @ 9:02 pm #
palin doesn’t affect Obama.
Then why the fuck doesn’t Obama just get on with his planned healthcare talkies? Why is he getting taken off message?
Your nancy boy is getting slapped around by a girl.
Getting off message? You wish he would. Maybe McCain wouldn’t have left Michigan. Now losing badly in Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Hampshire, etc. This seems to be a recurring theme now.
N. O’Brain wrote: You just proved you DON’T.
Alright, alright, I get it…DC, Government, ethics, and morals in the same sentence, right? Very funny. But we can always hope that this would be the case.
It’s not theatrics. Obama’s judgment is in fact an issue, Frank M, whether you like it or no. Getting cozy with the likes of Bill Ayers, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Father Phleger and others is just the sort of thing that would cause most people to question Sen Obama’s judgment.
aip vorever
Buh-bye, thor.
And if the real thing don’t do the trick.
You better make up something quick.
Sounds like the theme song for the McShame campaign.
If you tell the same lie often enough, it becomes the truth. And simple folks think they’re patriots while saluting a fraud. Karl Rove destroyed McShame and recreated him in his own image.
The truth will set you free. Joe Vogler was RIGHT!!
I’m glad he picked Palin, it makes our case better, and what’s wrong with socialism? we have socialized our post offices, our libraries, and now our financial system, socialism works in it’s true form, in the words of Francisco Franco “Our regime is based on blood and bayonets, not hypocritical elections”
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:03 pm #
“I thought people wanted to talk about issues that affect them. palin doesn’t affect Obama.â€Â
Then why is the vein in your forehead throbbing like that?
I think you have it confused with the scar on McCain’s face.
You just know how good Cheney is at his chosen career…when he can hold what is arguably the second most powerful position in the world…and completely disappear for weeks at a time. Like him or hate him, any man who can do that is a Spook ya wouldn’t wanna fool with.
“#Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:01 pm #
Palin doesn’t even know where McCain stands on issues.”
Ask Joey Hairplugs about “Clean Coal”.
Comment by aip vorever on 10/4 @ 9:03 pm #
Wow, a real, honest to ghod reactionary leftist agent provocateur.
And you thought the KGB was dead and buried.
omment by dre on 10/4 @ 9:07 pm #
“#Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:01 pm #
Palin doesn’t even know where McCain stands on issues.â€Â
Ask Joey Hairplugs about “Clean Coalâ€Â.
Doesn’t change the fact she has no idea where McCain stands on issues.
However, it was Ms. Palin who fired the first shot.
I’d suggest you start clearing up your misconceptions right there.
The association between Obama and Ayers has been discussed extensively, that you only took note of it now certainly begs an explanation. Perhaps someone, or some ones have been keeping you out of the loop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Well Carlos you say Palin fired the first shot, so where do you think all the smears about Trig being Bristol baby etc, etc come from. They sure as hell didn’t come from the Republicans.
There has only been one sleazy smear job in this election and that was against Sarah Palin. The Ayers and Annenburg issues are things the Obama has either hid or outright lied about.
They are legitimate questions that have never answered.
I’m glad he picked Palin, it makes our case better
Sure it does. That’s why you and all your Kiddie Koolaid Kult buddies are over here having a hissy fit.
and what’s wrong with socialism?
I think you’ve found a great new campaign slogan for Obama. Urge him to go with it!
“Comment by Warren Bonesteel on 10/4 @ 9:06 pm #
You just know how good Cheney is at his chosen career”
Cheney/Palin ’08
Wow, a real, honest to ghod reactionary leftist agent provocateur.
It’s thor, N. O’B.
“I think you have it confused with the scar on McCain’s face.”
The one his communist torturers gave him?
Lets see here McCain can’t win on issues, can’t win on experience, so I guess going to associations is the next thing he plans on not winning.
“….Francisco Franco “Our regime is based on blood and bayonets, not hypocritical electionsâ€Â
– So now we have open Fascists within the Moonbat ranks.
– Someone check quick and see if someone is lugging the putrefied body of Lenin around with the Obama campaign.
– Common fellow PW’ers. You knew it was just a matter of time.
Socialism will come to this Country, like it or not that’s the future, and it was the Republicans that will drive us there, the democrats will only lead the way.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:11 pm #
“I think you have it confused with the scar on McCain’s face.â€Â
The one his communist torturers gave him?
Your point? He’s not the only POW so you can put that card away now.
“Doesn’t change the fact she has no idea where McCain stands on issues.”
Either produce evidence about your assertion or shut the fuck up Barack Hussein Obamabot.
I want to know what Sarah Palin is hiding in the Trooper Gate scandal. Why won’t she testify after saying she would cooperate? What is she hiding? How can a candidate for one of the top offices in America totally ignore a court order to testify? Instead of scraping up old news that has already been disproven, she should be answering questions regarding her role in this scandal. Palin is living is a glass house and has the nerve to throw stones. TESTIFY SARAH PALIN. You do that and I’ll take what you say seriously.
So…
How ’bout them Mets, huh?
“Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/4 @ 9:10 pm #
Wow, a real, honest to ghod reactionary leftist agent provocateur.
It’s thor, N. O’B.”
I know, SBP.
I want to know what Sarah Palin is hiding in the Trooper Gate scandal.
I want to know how much Axelrod is paying you.
Whatever it is, it’s too much. :-)
I hate the green, socialist, and communist religion of islam.
– Still dimdim, one has to wonder if you’re all so really iron clad sure your wonder boy has it locked why launch such a time consuming and rapacious text flood on a Classic Liberal blogsite.
– Dost thou protest to loudly perhaps?
P.S.:
Do witches get sick a lot?
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:12 pm #
Your point? He’s not the only POW so you can put that card away now.”
Ad you MOS was…..what?
Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 9:13 pm #
“Doesn’t change the fact she has no idea where McCain stands on issues.â€Â
Either produce evidence about your assertion or shut the fuck up Barack Hussein Obamabot.
You produce facts that she does. She doesn’t even agree with him on pulling out of Michigan. And cool out with the internet gangsta talk. It’s not all impressive. It just doesn’t have the same sting on the internet. Try again.
I’d love to stick around a while–and I am not caving in, trust me–but I have to catch a flight at 6:15. In the final analysis, I sincerely hope that whoever gets to the White House fixes the economy and returns us to the superpower status that we’ve always been. Best of luck, don’t take second mortgages, don’t buy any real estate on contingency, don’t overspend, and drive less! Good night, everyone.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:15 pm #
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:12 pm #
Your point? He’s not the only POW so you can put that card away now.â€Â
Ad you MOS was…..what?
31U10 Signal Support Systems Specialist.
“Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/4 @ 9:11 pm #
“….Francisco Franco “Our regime is based on blood and bayonets, not hypocritical electionsâ€Â
– So now we have open Fascists within the Moonbat ranks.”
There is no God but God, and Jonah Goldberg is His prophet.
Carlos,
No, sorry. The parameters of that system were set long ago, when Democrats tried to argue that Obama’s twenty years of continuous attendance at the same church under the same pastor was not relevant, despite his having quoted that pastor in his autobiograph[y|ies] as basic to his thinking — whereas endorsement of McCain by the pastor of a megachurch in San Antonio which McCain never attended, and whose theology McCain was only barely if at all acquainted with, was a major embarrassment. The two assertions are mutually contradictory; if one is reasonable the other is not. The cliché is “what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.”
I doubt very seriously that an adult American exists who has no embarrassing associations in his or her past, and if such does exist it is unlikely that that person has what it takes to participate in politics. If nothing else, anyone with known relatives as far out as first cousin is pretty well guaranteed to have at least one Billy Carter in the bunch. But if such associations are to be lasciviously discussed and used in attempts to disqualify, as the Media Press insist in their search for startlement and titillation, all the candidates should receive the same benefit from the procedure, not just those of one party. If Joe Vogler is relevant to anything whatever, then Wright, Rezko, Raines, and the rest of that menagerie are at least equally to be examined.
Regards,
Ric
I’d love to stick around a while–and I am not caving in, trust me–but I have to catch a flight at 6:15.
We’ll be here.
. Best of luck, don’t take second mortgages, don’t buy any real estate on contingency, don’t overspend, and drive less!
Good advice for anyone.
“Comment by toni on 10/4 @ 9:13 pm #
I want to know what Sarah Palin is hiding in the Trooper Gate scandal.”
Nothing.
NEXT!
I am a white 67 yr old white female and I will send a nice size check to Obama tomorrow after hearing what Palin said. She is a pig with a lot of lipstick.
I am completely sick and tired of McShame and his moronic sidekick. And seriously worried that Americans are so xenophobic that they only see the color of Barack Obama skin, and do not see the compassionate and intelligent person that he is. John McCain is probably the most despicable candidate that has ever run for the office of POTUS.
“Why won’t Rezko
shetestify after sayingshe would cooperate? What is <strikeshe hiding? How can a candidate for one of the top offices in America totally ignore a court order to testify?”I’m confused here. Are we watching a play by Aristophenes or by Aeschylus?
‘Cause it’s either comedic tragdey or farce. I’m not sure which.
Either way, it’s very entertaining. Don’t you think?
Ahhh, denden91, didn’t you say you were leaving? #558?
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
Lookie here, trolls. NYT actually reports what went on at Freddie and Fannie.
Comment by lee on 10/4 @ 9:18 pm #
Ahhh, denden91, didn’t you say you were leaving? #558?
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
When I’m good and ready. NEXT.
“only see the color of Barack Obama skin, and do not see the compassionate and intelligent person that he is”
When is Barack Hussein Obama going to send the “HUT SWEET HUT” sign to his 1/2 bro George?
So much for conducting a campaign of issues and dignity.
Sarah Palin’s life is now an open book and setting aside her ability to get elected the Governor of a small state, there appears to be information to suggest a background and events that at best could serve as a role model for Americans. If you want to judge Obama because of an association with someone with less than a sterling past, how about your own life. I would not be proud of a unwed pregnant daughter, a scandal involving abuse of power of your office to take revenge on your ex brother in law,consorting with a devil worshiper, allegedly a son who abused drugs, your alleged affair with your husbands business partner, your escapades in colleges (6) in (4) years.
Deciding to charge rape victims for testing kits, cutting off funds for the special olympics.. enough said.
Palin is hardly in a position to talk to anyone about character or associations. From what I read she is not an admirable person nor has managed her own life in a manner to hold herself up as a role model.
Slinging mud might be viewed as a way to score point, I think it has done the opposite.
She apparently has traded on her looks to get a head and that may have sold in Alaska, but I see her as a dumb empty suit.
Hey. I heard there was a kegger at this address.
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:16 pm #
31U10 Signal Support Systems Specialist.”
Sure it was, troll.
Warren Bonesteel: Either way, it’s very entertaining. Don’t you think?
Yes, it is.
What’s even better is knowing that your Greek chorus reference went over the heads of about about 99.9995% of the trollbots.
They probably think you’re talking about Eurovision or something.
That’s nice, Geraldine. Now, bug off.
“Comment by Geraldine on 10/4 @ 9:17 pm #
I am a white 67 yr old white female and I will send a nice size check to Obama tomorrow after hearing what Palin said.”
Little bit behind the curve there, Grandma.
The debate was the other night.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:20 pm #
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:16 pm #
31U10 Signal Support Systems Specialist.â€Â
Sure it was, troll.
And what was yours? I have my DD-214.
“Sarah Palin’s life is now an open book and setting aside her ability to get elected the Governor of a small state,”
Joey Hairplugs was elected to a state larger than the drilling area for ANWR!
Did anyone ever figure out where all the Obamite visitors came from or in the alternative, were urged to come from?
Well, here it comes. No policies. No solutions. Sling the mud. Before McCain campaign begins to get too muddy, they better remember “The Keating Five Scandal” and a man who repeatedly cheated on his first wife. How dirty do you want to get? Palin under investigation.
Geek, your Sen. ACORN Voting Present candidate is an empty suit. Ta.
I am a white 67 yr old white female and I will send a nice size check to Obama tomorrow after hearing what Palin said. She is a pig with a lot of lipstick.
You GO girl! I heard that Palin not only got the evangelical Republicans donating, but the patriots trying to restore democracy, protect civil rights, block illegal surveillance, remove tax cuts for the rich? The increase there WAS ACTUALLY EVEN HIGHER! THANKS SARAH PALIN!! LMAO!
So many anencephalic Republicans, so little time.
Either way, it’s very entertaining. Don’t you think?
Well Warren I was on FreeRepublic and Little Green Footballs the night that they blew up Dan Rather’s career. I have to say this isn’t as much fun as that but it is the best I’ve had in a while.
“And what was yours? I have my DD-214.”
Don’t have one, troll.
And I’m SURE you do.
“From what I read”
Metrosexuals like Barack Hussein Obama and John F Kerry are assholes.
Desperation sure isn’t a pretty sight, lol. What’s this about Obama palling around with terrorists?
Oh Silly Sarah, can we talk about your connection to The Independence Party in Alaska that advocated cession from the USA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI
Selling people houses they couldn’t afford, creating a financial disaster, having sex with GSE execs, defending their practices in hearings.
“Before McCain campaign begins to get too muddy, they better remember “The Keating Five Scandal—
He was completely exonerated by the prosecutor.
The Democrats wouldn’t leave him alone, however.
Teri B: You’ve got the desperation, all right. All that stuff’s been debunked for weeks.
““The Keating Five Scandal—
Maverick goes bi links with 4 DEMORATS!!!!!!
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:24 pm #
“And what was yours? I have my DD-214.â€Â
Don’t have one, troll.
And I’m SURE you do.
Oh wait a minute you weren’t even in and are questioning whether or not I was? I served my country and what have you done for yours. Even Rev. Wright served and you haven’t? Don’t ever question my service to my country. Either suit up or shut up.
-#620
– Oh Noes Dan. Say it isn;t true. Whats going on? First Aryes, now Fannie.
– Is the old grey Pravda stabbing their masters on the Left in the back?
– TRAITERS!11eleventy!1
Desperation sure isn’t a pretty sight, lol.
Oh, I don’t know about that. I’m enjoying the desperation on display in this thread quite a bit, “Teri”.
“Oh Silly Sarah, can we talk about your connection to The Independence Party in Alaska that advocated cession from the USA?”
GO SARAH GET AWAY FROM THESE FASCIST GOONS!
I know, it’s terrible the way that they’ve been forced to report the news.
Republicans = voting against same sex marriages, and the having sex in an airport bathroom with men.
Those people in Vermont, though, who’ve been talking secession? Patriots.
Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:26 pm #
Sorry, troll, I volunteered but was not accepted. For medical reasons.
In 1968, at the height of the Viet Nam war.
Currently I have a son in the US Marine Corps. He’ll be deploying to Afghanistan sometime in Novemver.
So take your “suit up” comment and shove it up your ass, troll.
“You’ve been hearing from those same “reputable†“news organizations†that Palin is borderline retarded, never reads anything, has no knowledge of foreign policy, etc.”
no, we’ve heard that from palin herself.
give me a week to memorize a few talking points, put me in a debate format where the opponent and moderator can’t challenge me for not answering the questions, and put me in front of a gullible audience who believes that so long as i don’t fall on my face and put together a coherent sentence or two i’ve done well, and i can “hold my own” against biden as well … i’m sorry, but reciting tidbits from a stump speech and surrounding it with a bunch of fluff and over-broad generalizations is not holding your own in any debate … it’s not looking like a complete fool.
forget all this crap about the AIP, or witch doctors, or whatever. she’s yet to demonstrate she has any grasp on the issues, and can thoughtfully answer a question … or, even simply answer a question.
Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:28 pm #
Republicans = voting against same sex marriages, and the having sex in an airport bathroom with men.
They are for civil unions though. Didn’t you here? Sarah said so.
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Comment by geek on 10/4 @ 9:19 pm #
So much for conducting a campaign of issues and dignity.
Sarah Palin’s life is now an open book and setting aside her ability to get elected the Governor of a small state, there appears to be information to suggest a background and events that at best could serve as a role model for Americans. If you want to judge Obama because of an association with someone with less than a sterling past, how about your own life. I would not be proud of a unwed pregnant daughter, a scandal involving abuse of power of your office to take revenge on your ex brother in law,consorting with a devil worshiper, allegedly a son who abused drugs, your alleged affair with your husbands business partner, your escapades in colleges (6) in (4) years.
Deciding to charge rape victims for testing kits, cutting off funds for the special olympics.. enough said.
Palin is hardly in a position to talk to anyone about character or associations. From what I read she is not an admirable person nor has managed her own life in a manner to hold herself up as a role model.
Slinging mud might be viewed as a way to score point, I think it has done the opposite.
She apparently has traded on her looks to get a head and that may have sold in Alaska, but I see her as a dumb empty suit.
(WORDS WORTH REPEATING THANKS)
[…] 4, 2008 in history and current events | by SEK Obama’s “palling around with terrorists,” yes he […]
sailingwindward–
Democrats having sex with GSE employees, then defending their business practices in Congress=heroes.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:29 pm #
Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:26 pm #
Sorry, troll, I volunteered but was not accepted. For medical reasons.
In 1968, at the height of the Viet Nam war.
Currently I have a son in the US Marine Corps. He’ll be deploying to Afghanistan sometime in Novemver.
So take your “suit up†comment and shove it up your ass, troll.
I’ll say again don’t ever question my service to my country.
(WORDS WORTH REPEATING THANKS)
Which is why you’ll copy and paste them over, and over, and over again, no matter how many times they get debunked.
And denden91 brings back the ever popular chickenhawk theme, Now we know he’s automatically right. (Yes, I’m a veteran too.)
:Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:28 pm #
Republicans = voting against same sex marriages, and the having sex in an airport bathroom with men.”
Wait, I thought that mindless prociscuous sex was part of the Democratic Party’s platform.
Before either Palin, McCain or Obama throws mud they should watch Saving Our Economy. What’s Next? on FOX news . It shows the history of the bailout problem. The problems start in 1977, then Freddie/Fannie and shows when Obama worked for ACORN. What is ACORN? Both Republicans and Democrats are to blame and only you will be able to intelligently assess the degree of blame. But it is a must see before you vote in this election. Just watch it, do your own research and make up your mind. It could be the end of our country as we know it. I consider this view a civic duty.
Civil unions? I guess that makes it OK then for the Republicans to blow each other in Bathrooms of Congress, I think they slipped that in to the bill.
“Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:32 pm #
Civil unions? I guess that makes it OK then for the Republicans to blow each other in Bathrooms of Congress, I think they slipped that in to the bill.”
Wait, I thought that mindless prociscuous sex was part of the Democratic Party’s platform.
Who knew?
Governor Palin doesn’t have any terrorist friends yet cause of her inexperience so she has to criticize Baracky’s. Jeez. Jealous much you think?
I guess that makes it OK then for the Republicans to blow each other in Bathrooms of Congress
Sure. Clinton made it legal to get hummers in government offices, remember?
Comment by Dan Collins on 10/4 @ 9:30 pm #
sailingwindward–
Democrats having sex with GSE employees, then defending their business practices in Congress=heroes.
Was it with the opposite sex?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/4 @ 9:20 pm #
“What’s even better is knowing that your Greek chorus reference went over the heads of about about 99.9995% of the trollbots.”
But it’s so much fun to address the 00.0015% who do get it. :O)
Which is pretty much why there’s a Greek Chorus to begin with, of course.
“Barney Frwank
Republicans= voting against Fannie/Freddie regssame sex marriages, and the having a male lover running a house of prostitution out of Barney’s house band Barney’s boyfriend was also an executive for Fanniesex in an airport bathroom with men.”“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:30 pm #
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:29 pm #
Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:26 pm #
“I’ll say again don’t ever question my service to my country.”
Your severice? Maybe not.
Your patriotism, on the other hand…
Was it with the opposite sex?
He’s talking about Barney Frank’s boyfriend, numbskull.
Yes but Barney is open about having sex with Fred.
Mud? Bill Ayers isn’t mud. He’s a friend of Barack and Michelle Obama, he lives in their neighborhood, his kids and the Obama kids attended the same school. So quit with the mud stuff. Heck, Bill Ayers has a Phd in Education and tenure at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And did I mention he’s a friend of Barack Obama?
Comment by poppa india on 10/4 @ 9:31 pm #
And denden91 brings back the ever popular chickenhawk theme, Now we know he’s automatically right. (Yes, I’m a veteran too.)
This clown N. O’Brain didn’t even serve and has the audacity to say that I didn’t when I told him I did, and I have the proof to back it up. You are not your son N. O’Brain. I respect your sons service and any other military person, even if we disagree politically, but don’t ever disrespect mine and you didn’t even wear the uniform for whatever reason.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:35 pm #
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:30 pm #
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:29 pm #
Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:26 pm #
“I’ll say again don’t ever question my service to my country.â€Â
Your severice? Maybe not.
Your patriotism, on the other hand…
My patriotism? WOW and you didn’t wear any uniform. UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!
There’s the exit dumdum.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
I checked and Bill Ayers has not been convicted of any terrorism that I can find, so how does this all matter?
Palin’s Attack On Obama’s Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins’ Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here’s what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”
He also said this: “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
Vogler has also said: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
McCain apologists will argue that Sarah Palin was not a member of this group. But Obama wasn’t a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either. And again, Palin repeatedly courted the AIP, and her husband was a member for years
Read the entire
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php
hie hf
“Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:38 pm #
I checked and Bill Ayers has not been convicted of any terrorism that I can find, so how does this all matter?”
Because the prosecutors fucked up.
Besides, he’s bragged about it.
You’re not too bright, are you?
“It’s thor, N. O’B.â€Â
I know, SBP.”
I hope so. Around post 400 I wondered where the party’s host was at.
I checked and Bill Ayers has not been convicted
Neither had OJ, until yesterday.
so how does this all matter?
Well, you’re the one posting hundreds of messages about it, genius, so I guess it must matter to you.
“#Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:38 pm #
I checked and Bill Ayers has not been convicted of any terrorism that I can find, so how does this all matter?”
OJ wasn’t convicted until TODAY mr. Barack Hussein Obama Idiot.
Ironic–When the Republicans have nothing of substance to offer they fall back on the cornerstone of their failed policies: FEAR
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:37 pm #
There’s the exit dumdum.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
A patriotic chickenhawk. WOW!! Now this is a first.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:39 pm #
Because the prosecutors fucked up
It doesn’t answer the question, perhaps you can’t read.
geek proclaimed:
Deciding to charge rape victims for testing kits, cutting off funds for the special olympics.. enough said.
You’re certainly lying enough.
Comment by royf on 10/4 @ 9:24 pm #
“Well Warren I was on FreeRepublic and Little Green Footballs the night that they blew up Dan Rather’s career. I have to say this isn’t as much fun as that but it is the best I’ve had in a while.”
I was there that night, myself. Sadly, FR has gone the way of ideological purity since then. Dissenting opinions are no longer allowed. They took the road more traveled…
hi. I worked all day and I’m zausted and it looks like I missed a lot. I don’t understand why being embraced by terrorists doesn’t send up a red flag. The 9/11 Commission was very clear that going forward we should not elect friends of terrorists to the presidency.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler.
Link to Vogler bombing the Pentagon?
Thanks.
Comment by Paul on 10/4 @ 9:40 pm #
Ironic–When the Republicans have nothing of substance to offer they fall back on the cornerstone of their failed policies: FEAR
Yep that about sums it up.
Fear, it’s what the Obamites are exhibiting today. Wonder why?
O.J. was innocent until today.
– Alright denden, I wore the uniform in two campaigns, so stuff a sock in it. Dickie wagging doesn’t impress anyone here, any more than the juvenile attempts by your group to thread jack.
– You might start by evidencing an education a bit higher than the 9th grade.
– What you should be doing is sweating bullets in the NYT has decided it needs to get back to real news instead of carrying wonder boys water. Its getting dangerously close to going out of business, so that could be the reason it seems to be trying to tell the truth for the first time in many years.
– You need to pay attention to that. You lose the MSM and your boy is toast.
Does anyone realized that Palin and McCain are doing the same exact bullshit song and dance that got Bush into office…not once, but twice. AND PEOPLE ARE STILL LISTENING. Even after the war…after 4000+ of our troops have been slaughtered, after hundreds of THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis have been murdered. PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING INTO THIS FEAR MUSLIMS BULLSHIT. FEAR EVERYTHING. FEAR OUR NEIGHBORS FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY. IT IS UNPATRIOTIC NOT TO FEAR. Our economy is in the toilet, we will be facing some of the toughest ENERGY crises ever in the coming years, and people still look with hope in their eyes to a man and women who embrace violence, who embrace racisim (not all Muslims are crazy muslim extreamist who want to kill people. Most are in fact, lovely people.) who embrace BIG OIL (hello? its running out, so lets try something different!), and the Bush way of doing things. For God’s sake, Palin IS NOT READY NOR WILL SHE EVER BE READY TO LEAD A COUNTRY LET ALONE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. McCain is a very old man and he could quite possibly die while in office. God help us if Palin becomes president.
AMERICA PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES. Obama and Biden are not saints but they are LEVEL HEADED AND JUST. THEY WILL HELP BRING BACK TRUST AND INTEGRETY TO WHITE HOUSE AND TO THIS FLOUNDERING COUNTRY. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. MUSLIMS AND EVERYONE ELSE! ENOUGH WITH THE FEAR. AREN’T YOU SICK OF IT TOO?!
[…] Republican VP candidate today told a crowd of supporters that Obama is “palling around with a terrorist”. The reference is to 1960’s radical Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers, Bomber and Obama pal Bill Ayers. How is it possible that a potential President of the United States could have any dealings with a person like Bill Ayers? Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. One could hardly care how slim the dealings are with Ayers, why would a potential President of the USA have any dealings with a domestic terrorist? […]
“But Obama wasn’t a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either.”
Obama/Ayers ran the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. CAC was/is ANTI-AMERICAN.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/4 @ 9:42 pm #
– Alright denden, I wore the uniform in two campaigns, so stuff a sock in it. Dickie wagging doesn’t impress anyone here, any more than the juvenile attempts by your group to thread jack.
– You might start by evidencing an education a bit higher than the 9th grade.
– What you should be doing is sweating bullets in the NYT has decided it needs to get back to real news instead of carrying wonder boys water. Its getting dangerously close to going out of business, so that could be the reason it seems to be trying to tell the truth for the first time in many years.
– You need to pay attention to that. You lose the MSM and your boy is toast.
Yo son don’t talk to me.
Notice that the trolls are now using the Pee-Wee Herman argument: “I know you are, but what am I?” The Straw Man/Red Herring argument.
Ah, Lizzy. Another graduate of the ALL CAPS school of Obama indoctrination.
“Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:42 pm #
O.J. was innocent until today.”
And you still not very bright.
denden91 – I have 7 DD-214s. Since 7 is more than 1, that makes me smarter, better looking and more trustful on matters of national importance than you, right?
Your ignorance is only surpassed by your arrogance. Now, go get me a juicebox!
Yo son don’t talk to me.
If you don’t want people to talk to you, get the fuck out.
Thanks.
Baracky Chavez has all kinds of shit planned for America I think.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on 10/4 @ 9:44 pm #
denden91 – I have 7 DD-214s. Since 7 is more than 1, that makes me smarter, better looking and more trustful on matters of national importance than you, right?
Your ignorance is only surpassed by your arrogance. Now, go get me a juicebox!
Not impressed by you either chump.
“PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING INTO THIS FEAR MUSLIMS BULLSHIT.”
I wonder if the MUSLIM, Barack Hussein Obama, has a suicide vest policy?
I wore a uniform dimdim USMC 1965-1969 and I question you patriotism. But I do realize your just a useful idiot who can’t think actions and consequences through.
Obama was 8 years old when Ayers allegedly did all these unsubstantiated dirty deeds.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/4 @ 9:44 pm #
Yo son don’t talk to me.
If you don’t want people to talk to you, get the fuck out.
Thanks.
And another one with profanity because hismind doesn’t know what else to say. I see why you clowns support McCain. You’re as stupid as he is.
denden91: “Lugar/Obama Nuclear Proliferation Bill; preventing stockpile Russian Nuclear weapons from ending up in terrorist hands.”
Not really — no one is in favor of terrorists getting nukes and pretty much everyone in Congress is in favor of spending money. A fluffy, feel-good effort that required no effort or expenditure of political capital or risk on Obama’s part. Care to try again?
Comment by Lizzy on 10/4 @ 9:42 pm #
Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:42 pm #
Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:42 pm #
Holy crap, they’re like cockroaches scurrying around when you turn the light on.
#631 #
Comment by Sdferr on 10/4 @ 9:22 pm #
CNN, apparently. Which says even less for CNN’s audience than I already suspected.
The “Media Matters” reference (to Sen. McCain’s supposed “treason”, I guess) way upthread sent this thread from amusing in a “Interstate pile-up” sort of way to a whole new level of sublime absurdity.
I genuinely find it hard to believe anyone takes George Soros’ lickspittle seriously anymore.
This lady is goofy! The party of hate is now the party that decides who is a terrorist? Palin is starting to sound like Adolf Hitler. I’m an independent and I’ve decided my vote will not be going to the Republicans this time around. She and McCain don’t fool intelligent Americans with their skewed spin.
Paul
Ironic–When the Republicans have nothing of substance to offer they fall back on the cornerstone of their failed policies: FEAR
More like Proggs tend to project a bit.
OJ wasn’t innocent until today. He was to be considered innocent, in the eyes of the law until today. There’s a difference, but being an Obamabot, you wouldn’t understand what it is.
CAPS HELP GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS. OR JUST ANNOY THE HELL OUT OF YOU.
Obama was 8 years old when Ayers allegedly did all these unsubstantiated dirty deeds.
Really? He was only 8 when he was running the CAC, burning through 150 million dollars of money that was supposed improve education for poor kids?
Ayers hates America.
Ayers hearts Baracky.
DANGER
denden: “Still waiting on Dread Cthulhu to get back to me on McCain’s legislation in 26 years.”
I’m still waiting for you to come up with a real accomplishment… I mean, seriously, a unified database is the best thing you can come up with for bipartisan effort? Please.
We’re used to a much better class of troll around these parts.
CAPS HELP GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS.
Sure they do, Lizzy.
Chuckle.
Oh, for a world where “unsubstantiated” equals self-professed. Oh, wait, we’ve already got one.
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:20 pm #
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:16 pm #
31U10 Signal Support Systems Specialist.â€Â
Sure it was, troll.
I’ve got my doubts. You have to be smart to get that MOS. Someone who’s still trhowing around the “chickenhawk” charge doens’t make that cut.
Unless something happened. Is this disability of your service connected?
sailwindward: “Obama was 8 years old when Ayers allegedly did all these unsubstantiated dirty deeds.”
How old was he when Ayers said he regretted not setting more bombs?
And another one with profanity because hismind doesn’t know what else to say. I see why you clowns support McCain. You’re as stupid as he is.
Yo son don’t talk to me.
…and lizzy, after loudly claiming the icky people who disagrees with her use FEAR, (FEAR!!!) to promote their cause, proves my point with:
Our economy is in the toilet, we will be facing some of the toughest ENERGY crises ever in the coming years, and people still look with hope in their eyes to a man and women who embrace violence, who embrace racisim (not all Muslims are crazy muslim extreamist who want to kill people. Most are in fact, lovely people.) who embrace BIG OIL (hello? its running out, so lets try something different!), and the Bush way of doing things.
Oooga booga! Follow the progressive path or all is lost! Boo!
Comment by royf on 10/4 @ 9:45 pm #
I wore a uniform dimdim USMC 1965-1969 and I question you patriotism. But I do realize your just a useful idiot who can’t think actions and consequences through.
I question yours old man. Your old dinosaur ways of thinking, your intimidation of someone educated who actually has plans for the country, I question how you stupid people are so patriotic but you support a guy who has men and women dying for oil in Iraq, and those WMD’s that were never found.
Top Ten Ways To Post Like A Conspiracy Lunatic
8. Use “quotation†marks, *highlighting*, CAPITAL LETTERS and exclamation points!!!! indiscriminately.
Example: All the “official†photographs of the Roswell “debris†are clearly photographs of weather balloon material, *proving* CONCLUSIVELY that the “government†*removed* the REAL remains and substituted the balloon parts in a vain attempt at a COVERUP!!!!!!!
– “Son” – Heh – you dumb cunt. I could kick your ass through your shorts without breaking a sweat.
– But I understand why you don’t care to address what I posted. Doesn’t fit the “Narrative” right den-den boy?
– You came here tonight to thrown some shit around, but instead you’re getting some really bad news.
– Tough shit. Deal with it whiny ass.
CNN, Spiny? How is that? CNN cited PW in an article or somemat?
717
Ayers ♥ Barack Hussein Obama
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Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/4 @ 9:49 pm #
Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 9:20 pm #
“Comment by denden91 on 10/4 @ 9:16 pm #
31U10 Signal Support Systems Specialist.â€Â
Sure it was, troll.
I’ve got my doubts. You have to be smart to get that MOS. Someone who’s still trhowing around the “chickenhawk†charge doens’t make that cut.
Unless something happened. Is this disability of your service connected?
Gotcha old man.
Show where O.J. has a conviction for murder, you can’t, it’s only allegations, here-say and rumors, if you believe everything that the police and prosecutors say, then barry Sheck (Innocence project) would not be in business
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/4 @ 9:50 pm #
– “Son†– Heh – you dumb cunt. I could kick your ass through your shorts without breaking a sweat.
– But I understand why you don’t care to address what I posted. Doesn’t fit the “Narrative†right den-den boy?
– You came here tonight to thrown some shit around, but instead you’re getting some really bad news.
– Tough shit. Deal with it whiny ass.
Another internet gangsta LOL!!! You people talk tough on here to someone you know nothing about. That is really stupid actually. Shows your intelligence.
#698 Comment by Warren Bonesteel on 10/4 @ 9:44 pm #
Lizzy wrote:
CAPS HELP GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS. OR JUST ANNOY THE HELL OUT OF YOU.
Yes, and the message is: “Lizzy is an ignoramus who feels the equivalent of shouting is a valid form of argument.”
Sdferr, Jeff linked it upthread. It’s in a “What the Blogs are Saying” section (I forget the exact title).
Todd Pail was a member of the secessionist movement in Alaska until 2002, the Alaska Independence Party, which says that its ultimate goal is seceding from the union. An independent Alaska. A traitor.
I didn’t say he did, sww. And it’s “hearsay”, dolt.
However, in this case it’s been proved that he’s been guilty since the commission of the crime.
“Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:52 pm #
Show where O.J. has a conviction for murder, you can’t”
Convicted on a civil suit DUDE!!!!!!
Final comment for you idiots. Get used to President Barack Obama and Vice President Biden.
N. O’Brain:
UN-ALTERED dissemination of this IMPORTANT information is ENCOURAGED!
And only this case.
Final comment for you idiots.
Is that a promise?
I do see where CNN corrected their lie about NRO “debunking” Obama’s demonstrable associations with Bill Ayers, the neighbor, “English teacher” whose kids attended the same school as Obma’s kids. Oh, did I mention Obama and Ayers are friends, y’know, like ideological soulmates?
Final comment for denden: fuck off.
In my response on Palin’s behavior I never once professed support for Obama. I guess when people see information that is negative about someone they for whatever reason support, they shoot the messenger.
Just to get some facts straight regarding “Joe Hair plugs” Delaware has a larger population than Alaska and Biden got more votes in his last election for Senator by a lot more than Palin did for Governor.
While Alaska is often cited as being the largest state in terms of land mass, over 80% of the land is owned and Governed by the Federal Government.
Regarding ACORN, the amount of mortgages they can take credit or blame for is something that should be researched, before throwing rocks.
Finally, is quaint that people are yelling about the wall street bailout of $700 billion.. I guess they don’t care about the $10 Trillion dollar deficit and promoting tax breaks and cuts to further drive the entire country into financial ruin. Oh I forgot financial management only matters when you can blame someone else
OMG, Patrick. You remember McElwaine?
sww, go back and look at what you said, and then tell me that it made sense.
Yeah, what does it matter that Barack had worked in concert to fund the ideas, of an unrepentant radical who firebombed Judges and their families for kicks? Or backed Ayer’s crazy book with his whole heart and book jacket endorsement? Made sure to fund Ayer’s friends, and their ideas. Which had little enough to do with “education”, if you’re thinking of math and reading and crap like that. It was all about the re-education.
Oh, and undermining the hard-won local control of school boards that upset the Chicago machine so much.
A long term working relationship based on political ideas with the likes of Ayers? Nothing to think about at all.
Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 9:54 pm #
“Comment by sailingwindward on 10/4 @ 9:52 pm #
Show where O.J. has a conviction for murder, you can’tâ€Â
Convicted on a civil suit DUDE!!!!!!
That’s not a conviction, it’s a judgement.
“CAPS HELP GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS. OR JUST ANNOY THE HELL OUT OF YOU.”
– Yes see, thats how it works on a non-fascist site. People are allowed to act pretty much like total assholes without getting redacted or banned.
– Unlike your fascist bulkworks, where the slightest dissension is met with total brown shirts reactions.
– Must be exhilarating for you to experience actual freedom of speech, out from under the heel of your Marxist masters boot.
Last time I checked Obama wasn’t a Muslim. But if he was I would still vote for him. Has anyone here actually been hurt by a Muslim? Do they jump you on the streets? Does anyone here actually know what a Muslim believes in? I’m talking straight up Muslim..not extremist crazy Muslim.
Last time I checked Muslims don’t want to kill people. Or wish the destruction of our country.
“#Comment by Smoe on 10/4 @ 9:52 pm #
Todd Pail was a member of the secessionist movement in Alaska until 2002, the Alaska Independence Party, which says that its ultimate goal is seceding from the union. An independent Alaska. A traitor.”
And that’s different from Barack Hussein Obama’s church?
In my response on Palin’s behavior I never once professed support for Obama.
Yes, you’re a non-partisan sort, we can all see that.
Hint: you suck at lying, dude.
Baracky lied about Ayers. He flat out fucking lied. I think that’s wrong.
SBP: Flamed him once. I was young and new to the net. Hopefully it is not in any archive anywhere.
I have a DD-214, too. A two-fer! Only got one medal though. Well, I figger after I told ‘the C.O. to stuff that gold star up this ass, I was doin’ pretty good to get that ol’ ‘didn’t get caught’ medal.
“Has anyone here actually been hurt by a Muslim?”
yea 9/11/2001. I’m an American and you?
“Comment by Dan Collins on 10/4 @ 9:55 pm #
Final comment for denden: fuck off.”
Dittoes.
“Gotcha old man.”
Got what? A cold?
Wow, Lizzy, you sure do make fine distinctions, don’t you?
That’s such a horrible thing to say. I cried with everyone else that day. And no I have never been hurt by a Muslim.
Patrick: I was always fond of Serdar Argic, myself.
Yes, I’m a horrible person. And those jihadis? They weren’t Muslims at all.
Actually, now that I think about it, Argic invented the art of drive-by trolling.
Sara Plain is an idiot, she should be worring about who SHE associates with and the drama in her own life, OH! LET’S SAY TROOPER GATE! If it were you or I they would have hauled us off to jail already! And that is where SHE SHOULD BE! Book her Dano! If she did so great in the debate why are they hiding her AGAIN! NOT letting her speak to any one. Are they afraid if it is not scripted she won’t be able to walk and chew gum at the same time! Tic tock, tic tock time is running out Mcain how much longer will you use her as your puppet?
I have three DD-214s. Does that win me a prize?
“Comment by Lizzy on 10/4 @ 9:55 pm #
Last time I checked Obama wasn’t a Muslim.”
I don’t see anyone around here saying that he is.
“But if he was I would still vote for him.”
I wouldn’t. I never vote for socialists.
“Last time I checked Muslims don’t want to kill people. Or wish the destruction of our country.”
See bin Laden, Osama.
You could google it.
SBP: Heard of Argic. The guy who claimed the Armenians slaughtered Turks or something like that?
I didn’t say you were a horrible person, I said that was a horrible thing to say. Everyone loves our country.
Well dimdim if your educated why don’t you know that there were 26 individual articles to the Iraq War resolution the majority just as relevant today as they were then? I agreed with fighting islamic fascist then and I agree with fighting them now.
“Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/4 @ 10:00 pm #
I have three DD-214s. Does that win me a prize?”
It does earn my respect.
Baracky Chavez doesn’t love America. He worships a hateful God.
– In the mean time dendork, you’ve passed twice now at addressing the real question.
– WTF are you going to do if your MSM water boys start moving back to reporting the straight news instead of advocating for your empty suit.
– I doubt you could survive a full and open, unbiased press sonny.
Lizzy – Ever been to a Muslim country? Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait?
“And no I have never been hurt by a Muslim.”
A muslim follows Islam. Muslims hurt infidels like you just ask the Hindus asshole.
“Deciding to charge rape victims for testing kits, cutting off funds for the special olympics.. enough said.”
Enough said, perhaps. But not nearly enough read. Those lies were debunked a while ago; time for you cultist robots to start churning out new ones, no?
“Palin is hardly in a position to talk to anyone about character or associations. From what I read she is not an admirable person nor has managed her own life in a manner to hold herself up as a role model.”
That settles it then. Based on what you read (in the National Enquirer, natch), specifics be damned, Sarah Palin is not an admirable person. I hear she even has decades-long personal and professional relationships with terrorists, militant racial supremacists, and racketeers!
Well, her or that other guy. I don’t really follow politics too closely.
“She apparently has traded on her looks to get a head and that may have sold in Alaska, but I see her as a dumb empty suit.”
Says the guy voting for an accomplishment-free dimwit who has trucked with sketchier company than John Gotti throughout his short and undistinguished professional career. And all because he has a thimble-full of “oppressed” blood and makes the ladies swoon with his soaring, vapid oratory.
The irony; it burrrrrns.
Do you know what’s truly depressing? All these illiterate trolls are products of the American public school system.
Aren’t we proud…
So, denden91, where we you stationed?
You didn’t stay the service long, I think.
“Everyone loves our country.”
Just ask Michael Moore.
Give denden91 a break guys, he has a tough day tomorrow. Has to report for work at the local DNC office and get butt-fucked by everyone there.
yes I have. I’ve been to Ghana,Africa. I am not Muslim, and no one hated me there.
Right: Argic was an Armenian genocide denier (if I remember right, he actually went so far as to claim that the Armenians committed genocide against the Turks). He ran some sort of bot that monitored every group for the word “turkey”, and did an infodump whenever the word turned up.
This caused a great deal of head-scratching on recipe groups, as I understand it. Your recipe for turkey casserole would prompt a reply about your CRIMINAL ARMENIAN GRANDPARENTS.
Baracky Chavez spent 150 million dollars on Chicago public schools with his terrorist friends. It was all wasted.
Anyone here ever watch the movie Ghandi? Its really interesting because it shows why the Muslims and Hindus hate each other. Its utterly sickening to watch because its so sad. They could have lived together peacefully.
Lizzy- I’ve been to all of the countries I cited. Every seen a woman beaten in the street for talking to a man?
Governor Palin I think told more truth today than NPR has told all year.
Well, not wasted, hf, I’m sure a goodly portion of it was diverted to support those terrorist friends.
Are they afraid if it is not scripted she won’t be able to walk and chew gum at the same time!
Another one who hasn’t bothered to update his copy-paste talking points after the debate, I see.
#783 S,B and P
Now that’s funny!
=^D
“American public school system.”
spit
No I’ve never seen a women being beaten because she talked to a man. And you have I take it? What did you do? just stand there and watch it? or were you too afraid to stop it…just like everyone else.
I love you, hf, for listening to NPR so we don’t have to.
A great and noble sacrifice you make on a daily basis.
SBP: IIRC, one of the people on the rec.arts.sf.* groups had a .sig with the lyrics from an old Pizza Hut commercial. (“Leftover turkey…. FLAMING TURKEY WINGS!!!”) Listed as bait for Argic.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/4 @ 10:06 pm #
Baracky Chavez spent 150 million dollars on Chicago public schools with his terrorist friends. It was all wasted.
The Republicans lost 9 billion dollars in unaccounted for Iraq money, I think 150 million is a small drop in the bucket.
Baracky’s terrorist friends live in a very, very nice neighborhood in Chicago, N. O’Brain. We’re not talking South Side. Baracky moved to where he could be close to them. Like they’re a cell or something.
“Comment by Lizzy on 10/4 @ 10:08 pm #
Anyone here ever watch the movie Ghandi”
Is that the same Ghandi who thought that the Jews in Europe should bow down to there Nazi Overlords?
I thought about pointing out the numerous logical fallacies used by the trolls, but I thought that would take two or three books and several months to write and critique. So, in the interest of saving space, and allowing the esteemed opposition the opportunity to prepare themselves for their next visit with the Denizens of the Dancing Armadillo Paradise, I present to them the Fallacy Files: http://www.fallacyfiles.org/
“Comment by Lizzy on 10/4 @ 10:09 pm #
No I’ve never seen a women being beaten because she talked to a man. And you have I take it? What did you do? just stand there and watch it? or were you too afraid to stop it…just like everyone else.”
No, he would have been under orders not to interfere with the native culture.
You do realize, do you not, that you have just opened another door to a completely new area of your ignorance?
Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 10:11 pm #
“Comment by Lizzy on 10/4 @ 10:08 pm #
Anyone here ever watch the movie Ghandiâ€Â
Is that the same Ghandi who thought that the Jews in Europe should bow down to there Nazi Overlords?
They should have.
NPR takes a lot more effort than it used to. They don’t mask the propaganda at all anymore. It’s embarrassing to listen to cause you know you’re in such piss-poor company.
Did Ghandi really want that?!!! I’m going to check up on that….
The witch doctor DID lay hands on Sarah Palin in her church – it’s on youtube. I won’t give the link, though, because some people here are her constituents. They don’t believe in doing homework, so I’ll be thoughtful, and won’t stress their brains. Anyone who WANTS to find it can probably get hold of it with the keywords “Murthee” “Palin” and maybe “AoG” or “Assembly of God.” You’ll find it if you want to.
It’s right THERE, video shot BY her own church, AT her own church, with the witch doctor doing the laying on of hands thingie, to protect her against witches. You can actually SEE HIM doing it to her, and later she thanked and praised him, too. Seems this dude, Murthee, ran a woman who told fortunes out of town back in Kenya. Because a couple of road accidents happened near her home, he labeled her a witch. The poor lady was profoundly threatened by him and his flock, who also got the local police to harass her, until she moved away, and this creep, Murthee, has been glorified ever since for it – enough to get him an “invite” to come to the States as a guest preacher. Where he laid hands on dear Sarah, so the witches wouldn’t “get her.”
I sure don’t want a whacked-out vice president who believes in witches, thank you very much. Especially one who likes the idea of banning books. Makes me glad I live in Mexico in my retirement – at least here politicians wouldn’t DARE even think of banning books! It’d be political suicide. Mexicans treasure their rights. At least MY reading habits are secure here.
Lizzy – We were prohibited from doing anything – under rules issued by the Clinton State Department. My point is this; Islam, as practiced in much of the Middle East, is a harsh and hateful thing. A reading of the Koran will reveal much. If you have not read it, I suggest you do.
Or denden91 could visit me. I have an insertion for him too. 40SW, FMJ. Just what he needs.
You might also want to learn how to spell Gandhi, Lizzy.
“Does anyone here actually know what a Muslim believes in? I’m talking straight up Muslim..not extremist crazy Muslim.”
Well, I have read much of their holy book/immutable civil code/genocide cookbook, and, unless there’s a really unexpected plot twist in the final few suras, I’m pretty sure it insists in no uncertain terms that all non-believers must be converted, enslaved, or murdered.
But I was obviously just reading The Koran: Extremist Crazy Edition. I’ll have to pick up a copy of the Straight Up version next time I’m in Borders. Thanks for the tip.
“They should have.”
Too Fucked for me. Later.
Wow, new troll night at the pw. Too bad their bs is so unoriginal. Can I claim to be a life long Democrat who is going to vote for a Republican? Oh wait, that may actually be original!
Did Ghandi really want that?!!! I’m going to check up on that….
Yep…they should “offer their throats to the Nazi knife” was his phrasing, as I recall. Correct me if I err.
Baracky voters hate Jews, dre. This was what was never supposed to happen again.
#797 Comment by dre on 10/4 @ 10:11 pm
When they could’ve made the Nazis “look bad” (as if that might have had any restraining effect on the Nazis’ behavior) instead of “inflicting themselves” on the rest of the world.
That Ghandi?
“The Republicans lost 9 billion dollars in unaccounted for Iraq money, I think 150 million is a small drop in the bucket.”
– I’ll call your 9 billion, and raise you the 700 billion the Dimbulbs just cost our country.
– But hey. they’re “compassionate. It costs a hell of a lot of give-away bucks to buy all those votes. So there is that.
I sure don’t want a whacked-out vice president who believes in witches,
Funny, all the people I know who believe in witchcraft, “crystal healing”, “feng shui”, and similar crap are staunch Democrats or Greens.
HB: No, you seem to be hoping people here don’t do their homework. Unfortunately, they do and you’re lying.
“Comment by H. B. on 10/4 @ 10:13 pm #
The witch doctor DID lay hands on Sarah Palin in her church – it’s on youtube.”
He was a MINISTER, you fucking ignorant slut.
You must really hates some dark people, jack.
Oh, and not to pick nits, but if you follow the money. the Democrats are actually the party of the infamous Military Industrial Complex. Not the the Republicans didn’t get their share of the skimming from Iraq, but that the Democrats got the larger portion. You can start with the Armed services committees in the House and Senate and work out from there. Remembering also that the Democrats have been in charge of the Hill for sixty of the last seventy -odd years, thus, in control of the money…and where it went…and to whom.
Baracky would like America better if it weren’t such a hateful place and all. But I think he hopes to change it to more hopey betterness with changey stuff and Bill Ayers educational ideas, like teaching the little kiddies how oppressed they are and fixing them up like that. Or if he can’t get to the kiddies directly, Bill Ayers will work with Hugo Chavez to get to the little kiddies teachers. And that’ll fix ’em.
H.B. is quite the racist, isn’t he?
Governor Palin has become an object of hate. So easily. So fast. So readily. This is who these people are, these Baracky voters. Don’t think for a second there’s anything particularly special about Sarah Palin that they hate.
As a professor of political science I have been amazed at the Blog’s ability to stimulate debate.
So far I have concluded that a large number of posts are opinion based rather than fact based.
There is a famous expression from a New York Senator Danniel Patrick Monhihan – Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.
I must say it has been interesting to be called a liar, but I have other research to do.
Thanks all for some quotes that I may use in my future journal article that I expect to publish at the end of January after the new administration is in place, whoever that might be.
By the way someone you would get an A in my class and others I would recommend dropping the course.
I’m not trying to out smart anyone here. I’m only a person who likes to talk about her views.
I just wish people had more tolerance for others that’s all. Do I agree with everything Muslims do. NO. But that is their choice. However the fundamentals of their religion does not promote hatred towards others.
Smoe, you are a liar.
The Alaska Independence party doesn’t say seceding is a goal.
As a professor of political science
Imagine our surprise.
Do you call African ministers “devil worshipers” in class, or should we feel especially blessed in that regard?
Comment by geek on 10/4 @ 10:19 pm #
Sorry, geek, I’d drop you.
#816 Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/4 @ 10:17 pm
I love how they give themselves a pass for blatant and genuinely ugly racism. But I guess it’s OK when you’re capital “P” Progressive.
“…but I have other research to do.”
– Apparently you should try doing your “research” where the lighting is better.
Wonder how Axlerod compensates the Axelshafts bombing this post tonight? And if they realize a thousand comments pretty much legitimizes the point of the original post?
However the fundamentals of their religion does not promote hatred towards others.
Once again, have you read the Koran???
“I sure don’t want a whacked-out vice president who believes in witches, thank you very much.”
Yes, much better to have a President who believes that 9/11 was an inside job and that the CIA invented AIDS to kill blacks. Or who at least didn’t have even the trivial amount of courage it required to distance himself from those beliefs before it was absolutely politically necessary. Crackpot or coward, take your pick.
“Especially one who likes the idea of banning books.”
Do you guys have these lies mapped to keyboard macros, because, I gotta tell ya, I’d get pretty damned tired flitting around the blogosphere repeating them manually.
“Makes me glad I live in Mexico in my retirement”
I’m glad you live there, too.
“at least here politicians wouldn’t DARE even think of banning books! It’d be political suicide.”
Yes, it’s much less politically risky for Mexican government officials and police to simply cooperate with the drug cartels that run the country in their various acts of theft, kidnapping, and murder. And more profitable to boot!
“Mexicans treasure their rights. At least MY reading habits are secure here.”
You’re right, we silly Americans have soooo much to learn from a third-world kleptocratic/plutocratic shithole that would be a fourth-world kleptocratic/plutocratic shithole if it weren’t the largest welfare client of the United States economy. If only we have the humility and courage to listen.
geek
There is a famous expression from a New York Senator Danniel Patrick Monhihan – Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.
That’s what’s tripping you up, alas.
I must say it has been interesting to be called a liar, but I have other research to do.
Of course.
I’m not trying to out smart anyone here.
Yeah, we noticed.
I checked the CNN “what blogs are saying” section and found no mention of PW, though it certainly could have been there earlier and changed by now.
Excuse me? A “cell of some kind”? The South Side of Chicago? LOL. My brother LIVES THERE. He’s white, like me. There are many blacks who live there, too. He’s not rich, not poor. Unless you’ve BEEN there, you can’t imagine how diverse the South Side is. University of Chicago, one of the best and hardest-to-get-into universities in America, is right there. So is the world-respected Oriental Institute, home to some of the world’s top Egyptologists. It has poor areas, rich areas, and between areas. It’s a chunk of Chicago, and nothing else.
Why don’t you lamebrains simply drink lemonade instead of grape Koolaid? Better for those brain cells; you need ’em all, obviously.
Then admit the REAL truth: You just don’t want a “N” in the White House. Which is the dumbest thing of all, since that “N” will help keep YOUR JOB from going to China or India. Gotta hand it to the GOP – they sure know how to make their constituents shoot their own feet off.
A terrorist cell? South Side? I gotta tell my brother that one! He never knew he was in a terorist cell…
“There is a famous expression from a New York Senator Danniel Patrick Monhihan – Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.”
Unless you’re Dan Rather. Or Joe Biden. Then it’s okay.
University of Chicago, one of the best and hardest-to-get-into universities in America, is right there.
And you can get mugged or murdered within two blocks of campus.
And yes, I’ve been there.
Denden,
Enough with your chickenhawk mantra. I was in the desert when your mama was still wiping your ass. USMC 85-91, MOS 0311 Infantry. N’Obrain has a son in my beloved Corps so he has a stake in the game. Never ceases to amaze me that the support staff like you are the ones who make the most noise. Here’s a tip for you little boy, those who talk the loudest about their service are the least likely to have ever heard a shot fired in anger. We know what you are about and we don’t like it. You wore the uniform, great, now shut the hell up.
I’m just fuzzy on some of the details of Baracky’s close relationship to terrorists, H.B. I tried Google News but couldn’t find an explanation.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on 10/4 @ 10:23 pm #
However the fundamentals of their religion does not promote hatred towards others.
Once again, have you read the Koran???
More people have been slaughtered in the name of christianity than any other religion and/or war, the Muslims have a long way to catch up to the christians.
Oh my. The “you’re a RACIST” cry. Gosh, I feel all intimidated into voting for the One now.
Not.
Still it seems as though a new Obamite visitor shows up about every fifteen minutes or so….
“As a professor of political science I have been amazed at the Blog’s ability to stimulate debate.
– Surprise, surprise. One of academia’s illustrious post-modern propagandists. Out there everyday indoctrinating this years crop of impressionable young minds into the greatness of the Marxist Utopia there Herr professor?
Comment by H. B. on 10/4 @ 10:24 pm #
Sheesh, what is it with the trolls areound here tonight?
Somebody call We ‘B Trolls, this batch is defective.
So from what is being said, Muslims fundamentally believe that everyone should convert or be killed?
correct?
Now where have I heard that before? hmm….I believe EVERY religion thinks they are the RIGHT religion. Don’t extremist Catholics think nonbelivers will burn in hell? What is the difference?
More people have been slaughtered in the name of christianity
Ah, yes. The “let’s compare Christians of 500 years ago to Muslims of today” meme.
I’m pretty sure that the Thirty Years’ War and the Inquisition have been over for quite some time, dude.
RTO Trainer,
No disrepect intended in my post #837. Signals is an important part of any operation. The guy just really pissed me off going after N’OB that way.
Don’t extremist Catholics think nonbelivers will burn in hell? What is the difference?
Extremist Catholics aren’t flying airplanes into buildings, cutting off the clits of little girls, and sawing off the heads of journalists on video tape?
Is this a trick question?
Lizzy you are totally wrong about islam. Do yourself and your children (if you have or hope to have any) a favor and do some research on the subject.
There are many website out there which have accurate information on them. Faith Freedom is one but there are others. The koran specifically states that true muslims should kill infidels wherever they are found. It really isn’t even in debate, however there is a tremendous amount of propaganda out there put out by CAIR and other groups.
Y’all should remember Lizzy when y’all get all put out with our smart trolls. They’re not to be taken for granted I don’t think.
Thanks, Big D.
And if I may, Semper Fi!
[I got absolution to do that one time on the internet. I don’t abuse the privilege.]
I’m not a dude. ^_^
“Don’t extremist Catholics think nonbelivers will burn in hell? What is the difference?”
They don’t put them there.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/4 @ 10:29 pm #
More people have been slaughtered in the name of christianity
Ah, yes. The “let’s compare Christians of 500 years ago to Muslims of today†meme.
I’m pretty sure that the Thirty Years’ War and the Inquisition have been over for quite some time, dude.
And in 500 years, not much has changed with the Christians, they are still trying to convert the Muslims and everyone else.
A person who faults others continuously, is actually showing his or her own fault
“More people have been slaughtered in the name of christianity than any other religion and/or war, the Muslims have a long way to catch up to the christians.”
They’re obviously very competitive, because that alleged gap is closing by leaps and bounds on a daily basis. You almost have to root for a team that shows that much heart.
The only people who see Christianity as a serious threat in the world are mentally ill militant secularists. The only people who recognize Islamism as a serious threat are, you know, serious adults and stuff. There’s some kind of lesson in there somewhere.
CNN is really getting weird.
They actually think Obama might have known a girl/guy that was affiliated with Osama Bin Laden?
And therefore, it’s news? And makes headlines?
I actually knew a cousin that knew another cousin that knew of this guy that knew another person that knew he liked Osama Bin Laden.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
CNN you’re really getting pathetic.
And you’re claiming to be a factual news resource?
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Here you go, Lizzy, read this. It’s the pope’s Regensburg Address, aimed in part at the Muslim world.
http://www.zenit.org/article-16955?l=english
Damn. I should have saved my fortune cookie.
“And in 500 years, not much has changed with the Christians, they are still trying to convert the Muslims and everyone else.”
Oh noes! A club that seeks to expand its membership!
By slitting the throats of their friends and family, right? By passing laws making it a capital offense to worship any religion other than Christianity, right? By codifying the Bible as a nation’s only and immutable legal framework to be interpreted and applied solely by unelected clerics, right? By declaring conversion from Christianity to be a sin that must be met with execution, right?
Right?
And in 500 years, not much has changed with the Christians
Oh, yes. Why, we had a witch burning in my neighborhood just today!
Moron.
N’OB,
You have a son in the Corps, you’re family. You are more than entitled, no absolution necessary.
I’m not afraid of Islam. I’m not Islamic. I’m not afraid of Muslims. I’m not Muslim. I’m not afraid of Catholics or Jews or anyone else. We’re all stuck on the planet together and someday we’ll all realize that and that we must live together if we want to be happy. I have faith in people and that most people just really want peace.
Are their crazy people out there who have lost all hope. YES. and they want everyone to suffer like they are. But I’m not afraid of them. The number of good people out there outweigh the bad.
“She turned me into a newt!!”
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
No one really laughs like that. Maybe crazy people, but not for real people. Not any I’ve ever met anyway.
VJay: Dude, I used to be Catholic and no one’s tried to kill me for that. Sometimes get annoying “return to the fold” comments, but otherwise…
Islam, OTOH, is a bit harsher to apostates.
Comment by phil on 10/4 @ 10:33 pm #
A person who faults others continuously, is actually showing his or her own fault
What do you do if their constantly wrong, compliment them for being consistant?
She turned into a newt?
“More people have been slaughtered in the name of christianity than any other religion and/or war, the Muslims have a long way to catch up to the christians.”
– Hopefully we’ll nuke them all to Allah(pbuh) before they make very much headway.
– BTW. You might try showing just the tiniest bit of respect toward “C”hristtianity” as you are so balls over ass willing to do for Muslims. Just to be fair and balanced. You want to do that right. The “caring” party.
– Maybe we need to do it from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
– Oh. And while we’re going on about the religion of peace, I’d be willing to chip in a grand if you can find a Christian that’s cut anybodies head off in the name of his/her religion in the past 200+ years.
– The insane do not count. ‘Course on the Islam side that eliminates most of them.
I’m kind of a lapsed Lutheran. Why do you think I never use my real name? Always hiding, always on the run. It’s a hard life. You learn to live with the fear.
Why is the Christian right-wingers involved, and bombing or trying to bomb every Muslim Country they can find. (bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran)
The Christian right went in to Iraq because of 9-11 right?
I think he got better, Big D.
“Comment by Patrick Chester on 10/4 @ 10:39 pm #
VJay: Dude, I used to be Catholic and no one’s tried to kill me for that.”
Hah.
Your godmother isn’t a nun, I take it?
Typing too fast. Dang, did I mess that one up.
She turned YOU into a newt?
“Are their crazy people out there who have lost all hope. YES. and they want everyone to suffer like they are. But I’m not afraid of them. The number of good people out there outweigh the bad.”
That’s a happy thought, Lizzy, but it’s also irrelevant. The entire civilian population of North Korea might be as sweet as Punkin Pie, but I’m pretty sure that the one insane, megalomaniacal sociopath who blacks out the country every night so he doesn’t get any glare on his 60 foot projection screen while he watches Disney movies and gets plastered on $400/bottle cognac kind of tilts the scales a little more than they do.
“The Christian right went in to Iraq because of 9-11 right?”
Wait, you have to be a Christian to get into the Marines?
Who knew?
Damn right you’ve never seen a Lutheran ninja. Hope to God you never do.
Why do we have religion? is it to make our lives better? To enrich our souls before we die? What is it’s purpose? Why do people want to fight and kill in the name of a religion? or God?
You’d think after 60,000 years of conscious evolution, we’d stop killing in the name of God.
“They actually think Obama might have known a girl/guy that was affiliated with Osama Bin Laden?
And therefore, it’s news? And makes headlines?”
Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. Why go to the third degree of separation when a large chunk of his first-degree associations are plenty to disqualify this sleazy, corrupt clown for any elected office?
“…before they make very much headway.”
– See what I did there. *snort*
The Christian right went in to Iraq because of 9-11 right?
H.J.Res 114: To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
Biden: Yea.
Clinton: Yea.
Edwards: Yea.
Feinstein: Yea.
Kerry: Yea.
Schumer: Yea.
We might could start by not damning America in the name of God, Lizzy. And taking terrorists out of our rolodexes.
“You’d think after 60,000 years of conscious evolution, we’d stop killing in the name of God.”
Uh, Lizzy, WE have. The ONLY non-anecdotal killing that still goes on in the name of religion is being perpetrated in the name of the one that you keep trying to whitewash into being no different than any other.
Sailingwindward,
Yep you’re right. On the one hand you have Christians preaching,praying, and sometimes trying to influence the legislative process. On the other hand you have muslims strapping on suicide belts, blowing up busses, and flying planes into buildings. Yep, pretty much the same thing.
sailwindward: “Obama was 8 years old when Ayers allegedly did all these unsubstantiated dirty deeds.â€Â
“How old was he when Ayers said he regretted not setting more bombs?”
Unsubstantiated?!? lol, Ayers and Dorhn have admitted what they did in setting off bombs, revelled in it and are not repentent at all. That’s what is so galling.
As they worked together on Annenberg challenge grant, sat together on Woods Foundation and parcelled out money to other leftists, Ayers NEVER shed his radicalism, he just ‘blended in’ as an establishment Communist in places where being a domestic terrorist is allowed so long as you are an elitist left-wing radical. Furthermore, the CAC itself was a dirty deed, doing to the schools what the bombing couldnt accomplish to the country – radicalize it.
Ayers remains an eloquent communist and lover of POS dictators like Hugo Chavez:
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/10/comrade-bill-ayers-speech-to-left-wing.html
Obama was ‘all in’ on this activity as well as his full participation at Trinitiy UCC, soaking up the Black Liberation Theology of the Rev Wright. Along with his communist mentor in his teenage years, Frank Davis Marshall, Ayers, Wright, his mother, others, Obama’s main influences have been radicals, socialists and communists.
sailingwindward
Why is the Christian right-wingers involved, and bombing or trying to bomb every Muslim Country they can find. (bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran)
They aren’t. Oh, and the icky awful Xians (come on, use the TRENDY sneer word for them, be COOL) are helping Muslims form constitutional republics in two countries as well. Ah, and when the tsunami hit Muslim Indonesia, those icky awful “right-wing Christians” sent aid to help them. Oh drat, you’ll have to come up with another fallacy to throw about and hope it distracts from your other claims now.
Ah well, stay with your safe bigotry. No Christian will beat you up or kill you or start riots across the word for insulting them. But keep on pretending the Inquisition et al means they will so you can act all brave and heroic. Chicks should dig that. Or not.
North Korea is weak to its core. They haven’t even been able to get a nuke to test right. I’m not saying we shouldn’t be aware of them…but they’re starving their people and the country is like a rotting limb. They have a large army…but if they truly wanted to to go war..just how long would they be able to feed that army?
“Palling Around with Terrorists”, says Sarah Palin — what reactionary hypocritical bullshit! Take away the lipstick, she displays both the ignorance and temperament of a pit bull. Give the pit bull more credit — it likely does not know better…
Her number one pal, John McCain, could equally be charged with being a “terrorist”. No doubt he and most Americans believe he was doing his “patriotic duty” in bombing homes, villages, and factories in North Viet Nam. If an enemy plane flies over and drops bombs on your house, would you not think that is a “terrorist” act? If the plane gets shot-down, crashing in a nearby pond, should anyone be surprised that you and your fellow villagers might retaliate in roughing up this “patriotic terrorist” pilot, maybe break a few of his bones, before handing the scoundrel over to the authorities?
How many people did John McCain kill on that fateful bombing run? How many on previous sorties? Is he not also a terrorist by current definition? Too many crocodile tears are shed for this so-called great American “hero”.
Like Iraq, the Viet Nam “war” was launched under manufactured false pretense (a la “Tonkin Gulf incident”), followed by LBJ and his cronies’ version of “shock and awe”. Bush-Cheney/McCain and Neo-Con’s war and occupation is no less a terrorist onslaught on a sovereign country and the world at larger, with over half a million Iraqi’s killed and generating a new haven for Al Quaeda, while generating Sunni/Shia insurgency.
The last eight years of Bush crime family running the country has lowered the bar — so low that many of the benumbed Americans and mass media are taking the rants of this ignorant pit bull seriously.
I was raised a Baptist, guys.
Believe me, I live in constant fear of being the victim of an “honor killing”.
I knew that Themis would be mentioned in this play…
Didn’t you?
As for consciousness revolution, Julian Jaynes work is of no little value.
I’m not trying to white wash them. I clearly understand that Muslim extremist wish to kill people.
Don’t feed this newest troll please. This one is not worth it.
clearly
Ah, now the “military is just like terrorists” claim comes up. Guess another one slipped from Anger and Denial to Bargaining.
I smell International A.N.S.W.E.R. with this one, Big D.
what is a troll?
My bicameral mind aches.
Regarding ACORN, the amount of mortgages they can take credit or blame for is something that should be researched, before throwing rocks.
“ACORN showed its colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA. Obama represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.”
From an American thinker article quoted here:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/09/manufactured-crises-and-leftwing-obama.html
Baracky lied about his relationship to Ayers. That says a lot about his sympathies and his character I think.
can anyone tell me what a troll is? I keep seeing that said on here…
Is that Freedom Rock? Well, turn it up, maaaaaan!
Jeff, I prescribe a vacation in Nebraska. They’re all about unicamerality there, as I understand it.
Wow, I missed a lot tonight. A veritable Hurricane Ike of retards blew in to PW.
“Her number one pal, John McCain, could equally be charged with being a “terroristâ€Â. No doubt he and most Americans believe he was doing his “patriotic duty†in bombing homes, villages, and factories in North Viet Nam.”
Please get this talking point to the Obama campaign, stat. And thanks for the landslide November victory; we couldn’t have done it without anti-American, confused, mush-headed idiots like you.
Comment by Lizzy on 10/4 @ 10:52 pm #
what is a troll?
You’re on the internet already, so you’re halfway to finding out!
could you tell me what troll means?
– Yes. It must have been a flaming bitch to your indoctrinated skull to have to sit here for the past 20 months and watch CandyMan throw every one of your Leftist dogmas under the MagicBus, one by one. – But hey. Once you drink the koolaid there’s no going back, right?
There’s the payoff that after the election the people who will be screwed will be the people Obama made promises to *last*. You know the middle-of-the-road Americans just looking for a tax cut. Deep in their heart, the lefties think they are the ones who will get the brass ring and not the suckers being given the new new Obama genl election pitch.
What a joke of a lie: Obama has the tax hike plan of Mondale and he sells it like its Reaganism.
Lizzy: read this.
If you were trolling when you asked that: well-played.
“My bicameral mind aches.”
– Change the shutter setting’s on your eyelids.
^_^
Wowsers. Last time we saw these guys they were in a forest.
You can google ‘trolling’ under ‘Florida Fishing Techniques’ or under ‘Great lakes Walleye.’
see now that would just confuse me.
Anybody who calls their ticket a “ticket of mavericks” should not be elected because
1. Why are you able to make of names for yourself?… I don’t know where ya’ll come from but to use a nickname somebody has to give it to you first
2. How can you be a “maverick”
3. this ticket is made up on the basis of creating catchy slogans to lure people into their no substance polices
4. If a campaign has to resort to using these “slogans”, they are not winning because they hope people buy into their pitches as being “mavericks” because they are down in major polling, and its simple economics to make a product more appealing than what it really is, just like how our society markets “energy” but everybody knows its just caffeine and vitamins. Therefore Senator McCain markets the name “maverick” on his ticket in hopes people will vote for their name
Vote Palin because she is a soccer/hockey mom
and she is a maverick, so VOTE FOR HER
Maverick
Maverick
get it, she is a maverick so vote for her
well i am a “maverick” so vote for me…. you dont know what I represent but vote for me on account that I can use the word “maverick” in all of my policies…. yay! (wink to the crowd)
Hope. Change.
ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!111!!1!!!
LOL!!!
oh. Trolling is an old homosexual jargony thing. Like when old fat ugly Barney Frank dudes go to clubs to see if maybe they might get lucky and get a little attention. It’s desperately sad. It originated in England. If someone calls you a troll, that’s pretty bad.
“his is a wikipedia article that DISCREDITS this crap.” ROFLMAO.
Here’s an NRO Article that discredits a lame-ass wikipedia entry:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI0MjY3NzMyODgxZGM2ZjUwNTE1MmEzOGRiZmFkNWE=
“Obama is CUTTING TAXES on middle class voters.” A LIE. He is rolling over the BUSH TAX CUTS and taking credit for it.
Will he admit this Bush policy was good?!?!
“He was RIGHT to oppose the war in Iraq.” He wasnt even in Congress for the war vote, and in 2004 July he said his policy was the same as Bush. you bought the 20/20 hindsight lie he tells.
” Yeah McINSANE was right that extra troops have stopped the hemmoraging, but for crist’s sake,” yeah, since 2003, while all obama did was show no leadership on the issue at all until he was running for president and then GOT IT WRONG by claiming the surge didnt work.
it was stupid to be there in the first place.” It is stupid to get a guy you KNOW IS WRONG ON THIS ISSUE to run the executive branch.
Obama is the new Bush.
” Osama bin Laden is in AFGHANISTAN.” Not any more.
well I think I’m done now. I’m going to go eat a bowl of Lucky Charms. BEST DAMN CEREAL ON EARTH. ^_^
kevin there is no reason for going through life stupid. maverick is the name the MSM gave to McCain because he would go against his party so often.
Feets, you’re just stereotyping. BTW, you forgot about the lisp.
Ironic–When the Republicans have nothing of substance to offer they fall back on the cornerstone of their failed policies: FEAR
Yep that about sums it up.
We have nothing to fear but OBAMA HIMSELF!
Meanwhile: Obama lies about McCain’s health care plan, fearmongering with a smear that it would send 20 million off of health insurance …
– PW tends to have that effect on moonbats. Not saying you’re one of those Liz, but it is what it is.
– The Left is in stage 4 DEFCON panic because the NY Pravda has printed, not one, but two. expose’ articles on their beloved messiah. They are literally swarming with anxiety, as we saw tonight.
– The instant they see the slightest “truthiness” printed anywhere concerning O!, they swing into action.
– At times it can be hilariously amusing.
I think of kbwrx…
and see sweaty, shaking yup sitting in front of a laptop – the laptop covered in plastic sheeting, for the spittle and spilled latte – in an island of empty tables in the middle of an otherwise packed Starbucks.
Just damn.
Are you sure it wasn’t “Stuff White People Like”, and not CNN…?
Lizzy: tell Lucky to ask his friend the Brain Fairy why he only left you a quarter last night.
Memetically enginered bots are interesting, don’t you think? Once they’re released into the wild, they begin to evolve… and you newer know for certain just how they’ll turn out.
It takes decades of effort to create the perfect meme and only a few years for yet another meme to destroy the first.
Talos wasn’t the first, you see..and he won’t be the last.
NPR lies now about hearting mavericks just like Baracky lies about hearting his terrorist friends. Change. It can happen really fast.
‘Night Lizzy. You’ll be one of us soon. Mwahahahahah!! (diabolically twirls mustache)
ok I shall! ^_^
Vjay? Do you forget that I DO live in Mexico? Your labels on Mexico and Mexicans reveal that you are racist and xenophobic. Despite the terrible ways that people in MY homeland treat Mexicans, I have been treated here – for 15 years – as a person who would have to prove to them that I share American prejudices before they’d hold them against me. I have met some of the kindest people in my experience here. I’ve known some from back home, too; decent people just seem to turn up everywhere. Sorry if you don’t like it.
I challenge you to find ONE grocery store or pharmacy that will let a poor person have food or medicines – on CREDIT! And deliver to their home, too. My doc even makes house calls; bet yours doesn’t. Anyone who gets their bottled water from Santorini down here is drinking water more pure than even in a research lab. Hate to burst your bubble, pal, but Mexico IS, in some ways, occasionally more hip and humane than we are. But I won’t “diss” my countrymen, because I’ve known some of our finest people; I don’t let creeps label my countrymen for me. It does tell me, though, that many Americans really COULD benefit by some work on their generosity of spirit.
Oh, and one other little thing. Mexico has IMSS, national health insurance. I have it. I’m uninsurable back home with spinal nerve damage. Here I have better coverage than you do. It covers everything from prescription drugs and equipment to lab tests – everything. No deductibles or copayments. And, after two years without making any claims, it CANNOT be cancelled on you, and no restrictions can be placed on your coverage, as long as you don’t let it lapse. I used it when I had pneumonia for 9 days in the hospital. Fancy it wasn’t. Professional, thorough and caring, it was – and everything squeaky clean. Food was even decent. What do I pay? Well, being over 60, I pay a litle more. My premium is about U.S. $500. Per YEAR. Family coverage is probably a bit more than that.
What have I been hearing about Americans having to pay like $12000 a year? For coverage that isn’t even complete? Wanna guess who’s being ripped off here, Mexicans or Americans? I wish Americans could have this, too. I can use a private doc or private hospital if I want to and have regular insurance. The choices are mine. I’m not forced, except by being uninsurable up north, into doing anything. The low cost and easy availability of IMSS keeps the private docs and hospitals from getting too greedy, too. Kinda nice.
Wasn’t it someone way back when who spoke about cinders and logs in eyes?
In spite of my disgust for the bigots here, I wish Americans would realize that a plan like this hurts NOBODY, but helps – can help – countless people like me. It’s what my countrymen deserve: TOTAL health coverage, for under $1000 a year, no “extra” costs, noncancellable or restrictable after two years of nonuse. If this – what did you call it? Oh, yeah, but I don’t repeat foul language…if this “Third World” country can do it, why can’t WE? Feel free to check it out. On healthcare coverage, Mexico is WAY ahead of us.
As for being somehow in league with the cartels, I seriously doubt that, since the cartels have caused a VERY high body count of government officials. Governments tend to dislike that sort of thing.
Your comment:
“You’re right, we silly Americans have soooo much to learn from a third-world kleptocratic/plutocratic shithole that would be a fourth-world kleptocratic/plutocratic shithole if it weren’t the largest welfare client of the United States economy. If only we have the humility and courage to listen.”
Is a pure admission of your racism. What you know about Mexico could be printed on a thumbtack, yet you claim to know all. Mexico has a rapidly growing middle class, and it is the middle class in any democracy that stabilizes it. Ours does, so does Mexico’s. As for “third world,” I don’t think that can apply any more, since the economy is growing rapidly. I can buy imports, but I can also buy just about anything I need, made in Mexico. And it is only people with shriveled up hearts like you who think you can feel better about your own inadequacies by putting down a whole group of people who are somehow “different.” I love America. I love Mexico, too. Two wonderful nations, with (mostly) wonderful people in them. So thank you for being glad for me that I live in this very civilized country. It HAS been good. If I could afford to live back home, I’d genuinely be torn – either way, I’d miss SO much, and I love them both.
Yeah, there is corruption here, just like there is back home. Only their candidates, even for president, haven’t – yet – sunk so low as to promote hatred and prejudice, or pull “Swiftboating” stunts, spreading smears and lies. If it works up north, though, who knows what they’ll do here.
You know nothing of Mexico, yet want people to think you know it all. I’ve lived here 15 years, yet I’m supposed to be thought of as knowing nothing, just because YOU say so. That’s typical of GOP thought processes.
Ah, well, a flamer by any other name…
And yes, Palin DID ask if some books might be banned. She didn’t provide a list, but she DID ask.
The two VP canditates would surely have been under immense pressure before & during the debates. At the end of the debate, a strong christian, when he or she feels have done ok, the natural reaction in them would be to invoke the name of God openly, some way or other as a sort of thanks giving. I found Biden say it & not Sara Palin, because she probably forgot it or busy thanking herself. Such a spontaneous reaction can come only if one has some faith in God. Sara Palin might argue that she told it in her heart, but the debate was an open expression & it will only do more good, as nobody will fault it. This is a sign of shallowness with regards to her faith in her & it is really fearful to believe that she represents the Christian conservatives base.
I’d look awesome in a evil mustache.
“3. this ticket is made up on the basis of creating catchy slogans to lure people into their no substance polices”
Heh. Heheh. Heheheheheh. HAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, the tears of comedic joy — they flow so freely.
I’d read that Eragon shit before whatever the fuck that crap is.
Despite the terrible ways that people in MY homeland treat Mexicans
And yet somehow those Mexicans keep coming here, preferring “terrible treatment” in “racist” America to their own little slice of paradise on earth.
Weird, huh?
834. “Then admit the REAL truth: You just don’t want a “N†in the White House. ”
Wow, did it take a whole 834 comments to pull the race card? C’mon guys, cut to the chase next time.
Or does “N” stand for “unaccomplished, elitist, lying, extremist left-liberal empty suit”?
I’m sure you would Lizzy. But then again, who wouldn’t?
abi: Again? In English this time?
Thanks.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Pentecostals are usually more concerned about others who burn books or threaten to have them burned. They ask those kinds of questions. Generally speaking, they aren’t much into burning books of any kind.
You just knew that Greek Fire would come into this, didn’t you? Come on. Admit it!
Sarah Palin is coming to our town next Tuesday. They were giving away free tickets (the arena holds 8,500 or so) but ran out fast. Now it seems people are scalping them on the internet.
State law demands no more than a dollar over original price, money back guarantee in case of a cancellation and a bunch of other horseshite to keep people from transacting freely with one another. Florida is way controlly like that.
I find it amusing to watch the ants fighting. NO ONE SUPPORTS MCCAIN.
One side has an honorable candidate. He tried to talk about the issues.
He tried to talk about fixing things. About finding common ground. His opponent said the same things, and then started running a campaign with a “pattern of deceit”.
Both sides know that this is true. Just using the term “PATTERN OF DECEIT” makes it clear who I am talking about.
One side of this campaign talks in glittering generalities and has a celebrity candidate with no experience that is driving the ticket.
One side picked a running mate that is experienced and has strengths where the other has weaknesses.
One side picked a candidate based on political strategy that would be at sea in the rough and tumble world of Washington politics.
Who is the right choice? Which one is playing a low and dirty game, and reminds us of the campaigns run by the discredited KARL ROVE?
Which one is from humble beginnings? Which has the inside track with a rich father and a rich grandfather? Which one is calling the other elitist? Which one fits elitist?
Tongues of fire above their heads, Warren.
Tongues of fire.
…or was that Prometheus in disguise?
One side of this campaign talks in glittering generalities and has a celebrity candidate with no experience that is driving the ticket.
You’re talking about Obama, yes?
Just wanted to make sure.
“Comment by Sdferr on 10/4 @ 11:13 pm #
Sarah Palin is coming to our town next Tuesday. They were giving away free tickets (the arena holds 8,500 or so) but ran out fast. Now it seems people are scalping them on the internet.”
WHAT A CELEBRITY! LMAO!
Come on, 1000.
How many people did John McCain kill on that fateful bombing run? How many on previous sorties? Is he not also a terrorist by current definition?
Well, no. McCain was a navy pilot. There’s lots of rules and restrictions on when they blow shit up.
It’s all in the Geneva Conventions. You could look it up.
Terrorists, almost by definition, are the opposite of John McCain.
Baracky is a Harvard lawyer who is very dear to people that hate America. People like Ayers. That’s not my crowd. Not at all.
“They actually think Obama might have known a girl/guy that was affiliated with Osama Bin Laden?”
Well, you know the joke doncha: What do obama and osama have in common? They both worked with someone who bombed the pentagon.
“debates. At the end of the debate, a strong christian, when he or she feels have done ok, the natural reaction in them would be to invoke the name of God openly, some way or other as a sort of thanks giving. I found Biden say it & not Sara Palin, because she probably forgot it or busy thanking herself. Such a spontaneous reaction can come only if one has some faith in God. Sara Palin might argue that she told it in her heart, but the debate was an open expression & it will only do more good, as nobody will fault it. This is a sign of shallowness with regards to her faith in her & it is really fearful to believe that she represents the Christian conservatives base.”
Wow, you “concern” retards are really scraping bottom now. Yes, I’m sure that Joe and Jane Flyover are super-convinced that Joe “Abortions for All” Biden — the same Joe Biden that asserts that paying taxes is “patriotic” but whose charitable donations over the past eight years (a whopping three grand and change) were eclipsed by the Palins over the past two (despite Biden’s higher salaray) — is the “real” Christian in the VP race.
And Barack Obama — he of the “I was a Muslim before I was an atheist before I found a political honeypot in a Marxist racial supremacist church that asserts that any God that doesn’t butcher whitey must be murdered” — is the “real” Christian at the top of the card. Riiiiiight.
But thanks for sharing your concern. The conservative blogosphere needs more brave, hand-wringing life-long Christian Reaganites like yourself to shake us out of our complacency and delusions.
Well shoot H.B. You’re right. We should try to be more like Mexico. Except for the drugs, corruption, immigration,etc. Other than that…..
“Baracky is a Harvard lawyer who is very dear to people that hate America. People like Ayers. That’s not my crowd. Not at all.”
John Le Bouttelier wrote the book … “Harvard Hates America”. Where-ever Commie Bill Ayers gets to teach his radical stuff is a USA-bashing outpost in academia too. (actually what university is *not* a cesspool of radicals and anti-american profs these days?)
There’s a difference between a celebrity and a manufactured celebrity. Matthew McConaughey was on the cover of Entertainment Weekly before he’s had a major movie released. Matthew McConaughey smokes a lot of pot now. Like Baracky used to.
I just know that there’s a Spartan’s in the pass, King Leonidas I vs the Persians connection, here, somewhere…
Tonight’s thread has been…instructive. BTW, N.O’brain, hope your son is doing well.
– Yeh SPB. Thought the same thing when I scanned that.
“Freudian slip in text?” – lol
oh. *he’d* I meant. Snoozle pills hitting me I think.
i mean all Bush used to do was do blow…is there a difference? do you think that since Obama is black that he smoked pot… he graduated from Harvard…that is more than what you have done with your life
elitist
Lizzy –
“They have a large army…but if they truly wanted to to go war..just how long would they be able to feed that army?”
I’ve spent one winter under canvas on the DMZ, central zone, and went back to visit on two other occasions. They have over half a million men under arms, and have been digging in on and under the DMZ since the armistice was signed in ’53.
You know what an armistice is, right? That’s not peace. That’s “we’ll stop shooting and talk”. That’s been the status quo for over fifty years. The KPA is the only demographic outside of Mr. Kim that eats better than a subsistence diet now. But feeding them in time of war isn’t the problem.
They’d lose any war they start. The world knows it. But Seoul, a city of more than ten million civilian inhabitants, would cease to exist in the first twenty four hours of any fight. Better than half the city is in range of entrenched/bunkered tube artillery, and the entire area, to include the Port of Inchon, is well within the envelope covered by the KPA’s rocket forces.
It’s imprecise to use “North Korea” in any conversation dealing with diplomacy; you don’t deal with North Korea, you deal with Kim Jong Il. Period. Luckily he’s a small man with a small man’s worst stereotypical faults; if he was a real ideologue the war would have been fought decades ago, and everyone in Seoul would be dead or mightily inconvenienced.
His part of the Axis of Evil is real heavy on counterfit Benjamins and fake viagra and the odd kidnapping and murder, plus a nation lit only by fire. He’s been kept in a box. Which won’t be the case if O! wanders off the block into our house; he’ll think he’s dealing with a nation, like all the other Leftists did, and start propping up Kim again.
Kim will die in his own good time; I’m more than happy that it be by hangover or diabetes or erotic asphyxiation. It’s a job I’d just as soon not have to be done by our military.
South Korea is lovely, and her people are brave, gracious, and proud. I’d like to go back a decade after they reunify; if I should live so long.
Oh, and welcome to PW.
After a thoughtful comment about how Biden seemed more honest in his Christian faith, Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/4 @ 11:12 pm farted this:
abi: Again? In English this time? Thanks.
This comment reveals a shallow soul
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Comment by kevin on 10/4 @ 11:21 pm #
i mean all Bush used to do was do blow…is there a difference? do you think that since Obama is black that he smoked pot… he graduated from Harvard…that is more than what you have done with your life
No, we think he did it because he said he did it in his book. where does race come in?
One side has an honorable candidate. He tried to talk about the issues.
John McCain offered Obama to join him in 10 townhalls. No takers.
He tried to talk about fixing things. About finding common ground.
John McCain was more graceful to obama in his acceptance speech, whereas Obama was unusually harsh about McCain.
Obama smeared McCain on his email use, smeared McCain on his healthcare plan and has surrogates and supporters smearing McCain’s character. This in between the main campaign message which is “Bushs sucks so vote for me and I’ll give you more govt freebies”.
Nice high road guys.
I think that Obama’s friendship with a Pakistani led him into doing heroin deals while he lived in NYC. Take a little trip to the Pakland, make a little dough to keep the lifestyle going and have a bit ‘o fun on the side.
We don’t have concerns about The One’s Nubian ancestry, or even concerns about his Semetic ancestry, either.
He’s a gollem. Devoid of soul or of spirit, an empty hole resides where his heart should be. A hole the depths of which no amount of fame or fortune or success can fill. When he finally succumbs to that vast internal emptiness, only the pain of others will suffice, and in the end, only the death of the world will satisfy.
Shoot, “celebs rule” can look into our souls! Quick everyone, look busy!
Comment by Big D on 10/4 @ 11:18 pm #
Well shoot H.B. You’re right. We should try to be more like Mexico. Except for the drugs, corruption, immigration,etc. Other than that…..
That part the USA already has covered. No need to copy from Mexico. :)
do you think that since Obama is black that he smoked pot
We think Barack Obama smoked pot and did coke because in his first autobiography Obama said he smoked pot and did coke. Unless his autobiography is really fictional.
Baracky lets his own grandmother live in a squalid hut. Baracky is not like them other presidents on them dollar bills.
do you have a problem with drugs…. i dont
im a medicinal chemist
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Comment by We got that bit covered on 10/4 @ 11:27 pm #
Comment by Big D on 10/4 @ 11:18 pm #
Well shoot H.B. You’re right. We should try to be more like Mexico. Except for the drugs, corruption, immigration,etc. Other than that…..
That part the USA already has covered. No need to copy from Mexico. :)
And your point is?
“He tried to talk about fixing things. About finding common ground.
John McCain was more graceful to obama in his acceptance speech, whereas Obama was unusually harsh about McCain.”
LMFAO!! You sleep through the whole rest of the RNC dood? I mean you think that John McShame didn’t know about Fred Thompson lying about John (SONGBIRD) McShame’s war record? Said he never BROKE? Broke WHAT? Never broke a sweat while selling out the USA? You think ELITIST GUILIANI didn’t know he was a hypocrit? GUILINI is from NYC and dissing his own town? WTF? you all are chumps. Sad and true.
Baracky’s certainly not sent from central casting, hf, not with the poor half-brother living on $13 dollars a year in a cardboard hovel in Kenya.
“We think Barack Obama smoked pot and did coke because in his first autobiography Obama said he smoked pot and did coke. Unless his autobiography is really fictional.”
Similarly, we think Songbird was selling out the USA because he told us so in his autobiography. Since Palin admitted to drug abuse and McShame brags about his partying, we can assume you are not too worried about this and just using it as a bullsh-t excuse. Thanks.
Oh crap, he broke out the CAPSLOCK. We’re DOOMED!!!!
Freedoms Truth –
“Unless his autobiography is really fictional.”
Oh dammitall, man. Good job. I could hear heads popping from central Utah.
Jeff, can Word Press handle a 2000 comment thread?
Well, to be clear, Freedoms Truth, Baracky wrote about his pothead years mostly cause he wanted the street cred for his book. He’s insecure like that.
It’s Baracky’s way of saying I’m just like you, bro.
That’s the mommy and daddy issues peeking out, hf.
Why is John McCain considered a maverick.. he cant lift his hands above his head
“So Kurtz spends days wading through 70 linear feet of material, suffers lord knows how many paper cuts, and the best he can come up with is that Ayers was part of a five-person “working group” that signed off on Obama joining CAC’s board? That’s pretty weak.”
LOL! No wonder people are so worried.
Nobody has talked about ollhammertray, right?
Does anybody realize that McCain has cancer… had it multiple times in his cheek, why do we want to elect a sick old man into office when we wont last 4 yrs
“One side has an honorable candidate.”
Which one? The side that’s running a guy who associates with terrorists, black liberation theologists, and convicts? Or the side that’s running a guy that served in the military and endured years of torture despite having the opportunity to avoid it?
“He tried to talk about the issues.”
He failed. Badly. All we’ve learned by parsing through his flunkie-scripted sermons is that Barry really, really loves spending other people’s money. And that he generally gets a hideously bad return on it.
“He tried to talk about fixing things. About finding common ground.”
About how John McCain was a cancer-riddled corpse-in-the-making. About how John McCain was going to start rounding up Mexicans and throw them into Nazi-style deportation cars. About how John McCain was going to steal Granny’s Social Security checks. About imaginary episodes of “reaching across the aisle” to John McCain and Dick Lugar to craft legislation that doesn’t bear Obama’s name or ideas.
HOPE! CHANGE! The Chicago Way!
Ayers recruited Baracky cause Baracky is his kind of guy.
Comment by kevin on 10/4 @ 11:34 pm #
Why is John McCain considered a maverick.. he cant lift his hands above his head
No API in phase III for that condition!
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Comment by kevin on 10/4 @ 11:34 pm #
Why is John McCain considered a maverick.. he cant lift his hands above his head
Please keep it up! Get all of your friends to use this line. In fact, why don’t you have some posters printed up for your next rally? Please, please, please keep this up. I’m begging yoiu!
Yeah, dood, I hate “hypocrits” too. Whatever they are. By the way, what the fuck is GUILINI? New dish at Olive Garden?
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Comment by kevin on 10/4 @ 11:36 pm #
Does anybody realize that McCain has cancer… had it multiple times in his cheek, why do we want to elect a sick old man into office when we wont last 4 yrs
Use this one too! Who the hell wants the senior vote anyway? You’re golden kevin.
“It’s all in the Geneva Conventions. You could look it up.”
Wait. Since when did right-wing-nuts appreciate the Geneva convention?
“Does anybody realize that McCain has cancer… had it multiple times in his cheek, why do we want to elect a sick old man into office when we wont last 4 yrs”
Because he’s not a crypto-Marxist who has never accomplished anything and has borderline insane ideas on how the world works? That work for you?
And if, God forbid, John McCain dies in office, the person taking over would still be infinitely more experienced and qualified (and, again, not a clueless crypto-Marxist) than Barry Obama.
Similarly, we think Songbird was selling out the USA because he told us so in his autobiography.
McCain told as much in his acceptance speech too, about how he was at one point broken by the torture of the North Vietnamese. And how
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-mccain-came-to-love-his-country.html
“I always liked to strut a little after I’d been roughed up to show the other guys I was tough enough to take it. But after I turned down their offer, they worked me over harder than they ever had before. For a long time. And they broke me.
When they brought me back to my cell, I was hurt and ashamed, and I didn’t know how I could face my fellow prisoners. The good man in the cell next door, my friend, Bob Craner, saved me. Through taps on a wall he told me I had fought as hard as I could. No man can always stand alone. And then he told me to get back up and fight again for our country and for the men I had the honor to serve with. Because every day they fought for me. ”
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Yes, he was so heartful and … ah, ‘authentic’ when he said:
“The next Republican that tells me I’m not religious, I’m gonna shove my rosary beads down their throat!â€Â
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/08/bad-choice-barack-picks-sub-average-joe.html
Baracky hasn’t released his medical records. He’s awfully damn skinny. Might could be the slims. I seen it before.
I rather think we’ll see snippets from Mr. Ayers’ books in ads over the next few weeks.
Everybody will get to know the kind of folks the Chosen One was chosen by.
Except in Missouri, of course. I understand they have STANDARDS out there, and the state is ready to do the heavy lifting.
Y’all were the ones worried about state sanctioning of political speech for the longest time. I guess you finally made it happen. Congrats. I guess.
Can’t speak for all of us, but for me it was when they started handing out those “ladies’ night” drink coupons for Gitmo.
I DO SO LOVE COCONUT DRINKS!
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Comment by Geneva Convention is QUAINT on 10/4 @ 11:39 pm #
“It’s all in the Geneva Conventions. You could look it up.â€Â
Wait. Since when did right-wing-nuts appreciate the Geneva convention?
Welcome to Protein Wisdom.. Stay awhile, you might learn something.
I go to a university in Ohio and the only think Obama has to do is win one the the four Ohio,Flordia,Virgina, Missouri and guess what he wins the election…. did you realize that? Obama is winning in Ohio
…or was that Prometheus in disguise?</I.
There’s an Alaska Native legend about that. In that mythos, it was a woman who stole fire, not man.
How Woman Stole Fire From Raven
Once, many seasons ago, a terrible winter gripped the land. The sun disappeared and The People suffered.
“Oh, if only we had some of Raven’s fire to keep us warm!” said one of The People.
An elder replied, “Foolish one, fire is for the gods, not The People. Raven would surely punish anyone who took his fire.”
The winter worsened, and The People were in desperate straits. Soon they would be in danger of freezing to death.
A young woman declared that she would seek out Raven and steal some of his fire, accepting any punishment that he might mete out, so that her family could survive.
She traveled for many days, until she came to Raven’s lodge. Though she was afraid, she gathered her courage and went in. It was warm inside, and filled with the smell of delicious food.
“Welcome, Woman.” said Raven. “Why do you visit my lodge?”
“I have heard stories about its magnificence, and wanted to see for myself if the stories were true.”
“And are they?”
“Yes, your lodge is truly wonderful! Why is it so warm in here, when it is so cold outside?”
“Ah, Woman. That is because I have The Fire. Behold!”
Raven led her into the alcove where The Fire was burning. It was a beautiful fire — crackling, glowing, smelling of sweet smoke.
The Woman took off her robe and turned slowly in front of the fire, trying to get every part of herself warm.
After a while, she told Raven that the heat had made her thirsty, and asked him for a drink of water.
When Raven went to fetch the drink, the woman quickly picked up a glowing ember and put it in her vagina. She winced with pain, but thinking about her family made it endurable.
Raven returned with the drink. The Woman thanked him, then told him that it was time for her to return home.
Raven began asking her questions about her People and family, displaying a peculiar interest in the doings of every distant cousin, and the most mundane events in her village.
Again, the Woman thanked Raven for being so solicitous, and tried to make her excuses for leaving (by this time the hot coal was becoming very uncomfortable).
Next, Raven asked about the hunting and fishing near her village. He wanted to know how many fish the men had caught the previous year, whether the seals were plentiful, and how many moose and bear the village had killed.
The Woman told him everything she knew (shifting from one leg to the other the whole time), then said that she simply MUST be leaving.
Raven laughed.
“I know what you did.”
“I will forgive you, because you did this for your People.”
“Nonetheless, you must pay a price. From now on, your vagina will always itch. When you have no man, you will wish for a man to make it stop itching. When it stops itching, you will wish for a different man to make it itch again.”
kevin wins the thread!!!
And crap, I screwed up the close italics tag.
“I go to a university in Ohio”
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, “No shit.”
When exactly did Barry change his called name to Barack? Sometime around his stint at HarvLawSch wasn’t it? I wonder if it had anything to do with the disrepute Marion brought to the name?
Themistocles spoke ill of his hometown…but they gave him a part of the fleet he asked for, just to shut him up, really, which was just in time for the battle of Battle of Artemisium. The greed and avarice and intellectual sloth of his political opponents nearly cost the Greeks their freedom. Poseidon was with him and he saved their lives and their freedom, although his hometown was destroyed by the Persian army. (In the original, much more ancient pantheon, that god of the sea was Enki.)
Shall we ever learn from history?
I go to a university in Ohio…”
Wow. Had me going there; I was sure the rest of that was going to read, “… and I was looking at the grim prospect of my loneliest summer ever.”
Sorry. Do go on.
“Does anybody realize that McCain has cancer… had it multiple times in his cheek, why do we want to elect a sick old man into office when we wont last 4 yrsâ€Â
Because he’s not a crypto-Marxist who has never accomplished anything and has borderline insane ideas on how the world works? That work for you?
Works for me. Besides, McCain’s Mom is still sprightly at 96, while Bama’s parents both died in middle age. And according to O’s wife, he could get offed any time he goes to the gas station.
This comment reveals a shallow soul
No, abi’s comment revealed a babbling illiterate.
Sorry if you can’t handle the facts, skippy.
do you guys understand that Obama is going to win ohio, therefore wins the election.
Careful, Warren. This history thing you’re breaking out here isn’t a strong point for PW’s new found friends. When you break out names and words like Themistocles, Artemisium, or Arginusae and Gaugamela for that matter, it could make their heads explode. Go easy, man.
Nobody has talked about ollhammertray, right?
I’ve got it turned off at the moment — I’m enjoying this round too much.
Joe Biden says that gas station thing would be a tragedy of world historical proportions. And he would know, cause he knows stuff about Lebanon and Hezbollah and the US and France and Nato and shit.
do you guys understand that Obama is going to win ohio
Maybe we’d understand you better if you weren’t illiterate.
Just a thought.
I understand that the state attorney general in Ohio is locked in a death match with the Ohio Supreme Court as she attempts to conduct a fair and legal election in the face of well funded, organized, and motivated parties conspiring to commit voter fraud.
How it will turn out, I don’t know. Depends on if Ohio still has rule of law. I understand that some parts of the state are in fact quagmires, and we should have pulled out long ago.
“I go to a university in Ohio and the only think Obama has to do is win one the the four Ohio,Flordia,Virgina, Missouri and guess what he wins the election…. did you realize that? Obama is winning in Ohio”
Well, sure he’s winning right now, because ACORN has been canvassing demilitarized zones like East Cleveland looking for homeless drunks and crack addicts to shuttle off to the polls. And those guys are like Obama’s strongest constituency!
And the hyper-partisan Dem Secretary of State has done jiggered the game good this time — nice work on pushing for those utility bill and “I promise I’m eligible to vote” clauses to totally neuter the voter ID requirements. But, still, there are plenty of rational, decent, hard-working, non-parasitic adults still living in the Buckeye State, and they poll like 47:1 for McCain.
Hey, you know, with all your informed, erudite rhetoric about John McCain’s health, I would have never guessed that you were a college student, kevin! It’s the shocker twist I’ve been waiting for all night! What field of study?
Haha sorry dude…. I work in a lab synthesizing drugs all day…i dont study politics, at least I make a impact on society what do you do post comments in this forum and say that i am illiterate that is why you vote for mccain… loser
Greyhawk asks, What would you call a lie like this one?
“I go to a university in Ohio”
A checklist for your fellow Obamaniacs:
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/250-how-to-identify-a-cult
Wanna try the in English?
Shoot, missed the 1000th by one. Congrats Sdferr. Night all.
Comment by cjd on 10/4 @ 11:50 pm #
“Careful, Warren. This history thing you’re breaking out here isn’t a strong point for PW’s new found friends. When you break out names and words like Themistocles, Artemisium, or Arginusae and Gaugamela for that matter, it could make their heads explode. Go easy, man.”
Well, ya got a point. I was kinda hoping that the whole allegorical, metaphorical, Aesop’s fable thingy might get through to a few of ’em.
Wanna try the in English?
What?
Oh, right: you’re stupid.
“Similarly, we think Songbird was selling out the USA because he told us so in his autobiography. ”
Who’s Songbird, a poster here? Is this something Kerry did when as a Winter Soldier he went to visit North Vietnamese?
“Haha sorry dude…. I work in a lab synthesizing drugs all day”
Methamphetamine Dealers for Obama!
“i dont study politics”
I think you’ve made that pretty apparent.
“at least I make a impact on society”
Baseheads for Kevin!
“what do you do post comments in this forum and say that i am illiterate that is why you vote for mccain… loser”
Take THAT SB&P kevin is so not no way illiterimate loser mccain!
Wanna try the in English?
Pegged the irony meter!
Associated Press.
Man, they are some writing fools at that AP thing.
what do you do post comments in this forum and say that i am illiterate
Because you are?
Look at the way you write, dude.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/5 @ 12:02 am #
what do you do post comments in this forum and say that i am illiterate
Because you are?
Look at the way you write, dude.
Poorly ventilated hood is my guess.
However, I will give “kevin” props for not spelling it “collage”, as his type so often does.
Well, Kevin, I served eight years a Marine, four and change of that overseas. I’ve seen a modest elephant. I’ve helped build dozens of subdivisions where literally thousands of people now live. I’ve worked on a handful of dams, four bridges, and been on the ground from open field to striping on I don’t know how many miles of highways, both state and Fed. I have worked on water treatment plants, power plants (coal, natural gas), and staked my first civilian project at the corner of Florence and Imperial Avenue, in the LA basin. A year later I watched that little mall burn to the ground while Reginald Denny was getting beaten by the mob during the Rodney King riots.
I’ve saved more lives than taken. I’m proud of that more than anything else.
I’ve paid taxes for thirty two years. It wasn’t until just this last week that Democrats convinced me that that was all money down the shitter.
Please do go on; impress me with how you synthesize drugs and help your fellow man.
The job doesn’t require spelling or grammar, by chance…?
Poorly ventilated hood is my guess.
Unlike John Dillinger, who turned out to be an extremely well-ventilated hood.
I’m pegging Kevin as a freshman chem student who hasn’t yet seen the results of his first midterm.
“Joe Biden says that gas station thing would be a tragedy of world historical proportions. And he would know, cause he knows stuff about Lebanon and Hezbollah and the US and France and Nato and shit.”
Joe, God love him, is a gibbering gaffetastic doofus of epic proportions. All he’s had to run his whole life has been his mouth, and he’s been a poor manager. I think his mouth is overdue for retirement with full union benefit and extra bonus for excessive overtime, btw.
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/08/bad-choice-barack-picks-sub-average-joe.html
actually I work in drug design, maybe one day you will become sick and God forbid, you will have to use a drug I helped design. Knowing none of you could even get a phd in any science besides of political context… makes me laugh because I understand the importance of intelligence when picking a president… because not every joe gun slinging six pack and wife can run for office
actually I work in drug design
Actually, you’re a lying sack of shit.
And you’d be surprised at how many people here have PhDs, my friend.
Quick question: why isn’t anyone talking to Ayers about his connections to Obama?
phds in something real… science is the only thing that has respect..
drug synthesize and drug design are related, my friend
drug synthesize and drug design are related, my friend
No shit?
Give it up, “kevin”.
You’re functionally illiterate. You have no degree in any subject, much less a hard science.
Sorry, you just can’t pull it off.
ALL OUR PRESIDENTS NEEDS BE HARVARD LAWYERS!!11!!!
At a guess Mark, Ayers isn’t interested in talking about Obama. Would you be if you were him?
And notice how “kevin” suddenly went from “I go to a university” to “I have a PhD”.
Damn, they’re cranking them out fast these days, aren’t they?
“Quick question: why isn’t anyone talking to Ayers about his connections to Obama?”
Because you don’t ask a terrorist for a character reference regarding his candidate for president?
haha.. you dont know went I went through
hours and hours of dedication, something you must not understand the value of
.. i have my bachelor’s in medicinal and biological chemistry
This Spies faggot squats on roadside armadillos to get his balls gnaw’d lickin’ at. Probably rubbing his Baptist nads with a Larry Craig cut-out as he grumbles and types.
“Man, they are some writing fools at that AP thing.”
Fools? These guys are practically cut-n-pasting from Obama’s website!
… “Obama, who was a child when the group was active,” This needed to be said with the special emphasis that Obama campaign uses, I guess,
disregarding the point that Ayers is *STILL* as ideologically radical as he ever way.
Why not “Obama, whose first fundraiser was in Ayers home in 1995…” that would be the paranthetical if it was a Republican. No, it would be even
stronger, like “Obama, whose flailing campaign has been rocked by charges of dangerous and extremists associates such as Rev Jeremiah Wright, whom he
called a ‘mentor’ but who preached blame to America for the 9/11 attacks, …”
I’ve come to learn that most of the AP bias is in the parantheticals and side comments.
” served on a charity board with Ayers several years ago” leftwing foundation. gave money to palestinian ‘charity’ front group.
” and has denounced his radical views and activities” … for recent campaign consumption, akin to his belated throwing under the bus of Rev Wright.
And what about the Annenberg challenge grant? chopped liver?
Oh, and I wonder if there’s any juicy Wright sermons on video that have camera angles showing O! dancing in the aisles at Trinity during… those disturbing moments that Obama has no recollection of during his twenty years in the pews.
October. It’s the longest month of the campaign.
kevin is kind of snotty
Because you don’t ask a terrorist for a character reference regarding his candidate for president?
Well, why not? Would be great to get things on the record that could then be fact-checked.
I know, that would require a press that was interested in good stories (let alone hard news) instead of Doing Good.
This Spies faggot
Hi, thor.
i have my bachelor’s in medicinal and biological chemistry
No, you don’t.
Sorry, illit.
kevin is kind of snotty
Also way stupid.
“And you’d be surprised at how many people here have PhDs, my friend.”
I am Spartacus! (Spartacus, Phd to you)
gnite.
“actually I work in drug design, maybe one day you will become sick and God forbid, you will have to use a drug I helped design”
God forbid indeed. I’m scared shitless just imagining the prospect of being dependent on you for pretty much anything.
And what’s with the way that lefty teenagers type? Is it all that leet speak rotting your mind? What’s with the avoidance of the Shift key, or with the ridiculous use of ellipses everywhere? Are you transcribing from a telegraph STOP
“Knowing none of you could even get a phd in any science besides of political context”
This may shock you, but the very last easy thing you’ll ever have to do in your life (assuming you don’t wind up on Obama’s swollen welfare rolls) is go to school, hero. Make sure you show up to the class when they cover the number of states in the union; your “intelligent” candidate was doping that day.
Kevin wouldn’t know an abstract from an extract, a cite from a site, or a dissertation from a dissemination.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/5 @ 12:16 am #
kevin is kind of snotty
Too much exposure to hexane, xylene, acetonitrile, acetone, toulene, etc.
There’s no need to talk to Ayers. Anything not done with a stress analyzer in use would be a waste of time.
Printing excerpts from his books will be a lot more useful, anyway. Words are the windows into an author’s soul, I’ve heard. He’s written fifteen books, most of them in the overwhelmingly snotty “America sucks/nihilism rulz” style.
It’s like he stopped growing up at the “My WASP ass dad is rich, and you can’t touch me, pig!” stage. And he’s grandpa age now. Sad.
G’night Freedoms Truth person but for real if I had a PhD I would use apostrophes more better just for appearances maybe. That’s been bugging me all night.
I wouldn’t trust kevin to make coffee at a McDonalds, myself.
Tonight, we’ve seen Phaethon unleashed…the poor, arrogant child…
Hey, SBP, you don’t think MickyD’s has systematized their idiot proofing? Give the Corp. some credit man.
Epimetheus Farted.
Metis Flipped Kevin the Bird.
Bath yourself a little, it’s good for the feet and them urine crusted Baptist balls you be gripping.
By the way, pederast pirate, what was it you said you had a degree in?
It’s been fun, all. To our guests: thanks for stopping by, and do fare thee well on your homeward journey. Turn off your Iphones and get some sleep, Brother O! will have more commands for you in the morning.
Good night, Chesty, where ever you are!
True. Maybe kevin could even run the cash register, now that they make the change for you and the keys have pictures of the food on them.
“haha.. you dont know went I went through
hours and hours of dedication, something you must not understand the value of
.. i have my bachelor’s in medicinal and biological chemistry”
You know who else wouldn’t understand your agonizing struggles and hours of dedication? John McCain. That dude has just been skating through life, taking advantage of that primo VA health care and world-renowned NVA bone adjustment therapy. The bastard. Can’t even lift his arms over his head like Obama.
Tell us more, tough guy. I haven’t witnessed such an inspiring tale of courage and guts since I saw Phil Helmuth go all-in on an inside straight draw.
Spies, Brigands, and Pirates… Are you just upset that I excelled in a “hard science” something that you may have attempted in your life and failed miserably at because you could not make the grade in organic chemistry or gen chem. That is the difference between you and me.. you think science is hard so you devote your time to understanding simple social policies and regulations anybody can understand because your comprehension does not go beyond the average “joe six-pack’s” whereas I go beyond that and find solutions to problems that does not have a simple solution and requires more dedication and perseverance that you will ever know
Are you just upset that I excelled in a “hard scienceâ€Â
I don’t believe you, illit.
Sorry.
“It’s like he stopped growing up at the “My WASP ass dad is rich, and you can’t touch me, pig!†stage. And he’s grandpa age now. Sad.”
TMJ, you’ve just described the last 20 years of the Democratic Party’s approach to power. Only now they’ve got a Token, and they’re not afraid to use it.
Kevin, have you really accomplished so much to justify such arrogance?
REALLY?
honestly, it is your typical republican attitude showing here…you get mad and trash me because, IM BETTER THAN YOU and no other way is right
They offer any writing courses at this university, kev? Because, you know, with the whole “writing like a retard” thing you’ve got going there, it’s really kinda hard to swallow your story, even if the credentials you’re selling aren’t impressive or noteworthy. I mean, if it were me, and someone accused me of being illiterate because my writing style is embarrassing and incoherent, then I’d probably put more care into my subsequent posts.
Just so my earlier ones looked like the result of laziness and not, you know, illiteracy.
But that’s just me. That’s just me.
Spies ain’t feeling polite tonight ’cause he gots ’em crabs eatin’ away at the turds in his poop jet. Itchy Scwatchy ass hair!
What a freshly butt-fucked little hick-faggot you are, Spies, viral ass cancer with a ego.
arrogance…I would not define it in that manner but is trashing somebody much better?
Yep, i’m in collage rite now at the university of nostradamus. i have phdd in petrochemicalasticity. the extra d in the phdd is because it is a really hard degree to attainablize. i spend my days trying to erecticise the human race not pull it down like you thugs what wont vote for o! yep, the hard stuff, thats what i am eroled in, i mean have matriculationed already. learning to rite the world with new drugs and such. if i could only master the keyboard…
Oh, I forgot something that some of you might think is important. You see, here in Mexico, we would never have a problem with produce tainted with e-coli or salmonella. We have purification drops. You don’t. You could send me your e-coli-infested spinach, and I’d eat it in a salad without getting sick. You can’t. Because you don’t have the drops. Maybe you might start to think it’d be a good idea to have some. And maybe it has crossed your mind that these “contaminated” foods were deliberately tainted in order to force Mexico from selling produce to us any more. It helps to ask the question, “who gains?” about that. After all, e-coli and salmonella are animal diseases, not ordinarily found on plant foods. They have to be PUT there. A couple bunches of spinach, a handful of tomatoes, maybe, but whole warehouses full? Then distributed all OVER America? Not reasonable. But even if it did happen that way, once, maybe, but THREE times? And haven’t you noticed that, each time, it only lasted a few days, then went away? How? If it’s a problem with all Mexican produce, it’d still be there. There’s a BIG can of worms in these outbreaks, and the explantion of how they came about is likely to be VERY unlovely. Especially since the ones doing it would be Americans. And our government might even be willing to “look the other way” while they do it.
The people here in Mexico have NO PROBLEM with their tomatoes, spinach or chile peppers. NONE. And we don’t usually need to purify tomatoes or chiles – spinach, yes. We’re not purifying against e-coli or salmonella. It’s parasites that live in the soil and get onto foods that grow close to the ground that can make people sick. They’re harder to kill than mere bacteria. Amoebas can actually crawl up on foods while they’re still growing – cabbage has almost ALWAYS got them. ANY plant growing close to the ground, like strawberries, celery, cilantro. Oh, boy, did I find THAT out the hard way once. Tropical soils are riddled with such parasites; it’s a fact of life where there is no cold winter to kill them off every year. But Mexico urgently sought the development of these drops because long ago their worst problem was cholera. These drops, almost singlehandedly, ended cholera in Mexico; today it is very rare. They kill parasites, but also bacteria like e-coli and salmonella. And they really work beautifully, and I’ve never heard of anyone having any problem with them. In my 15 years here, I haven’t, either. Even a research lab can’t conduct a test on a whole nation of people over 15-20 years. So the drops are completely safe, too.
Somebody has been deliberately adulterating produce from Mexico, and doesn’t care how many of you will die. That’s pretty cold, especially because its motive is to shut down competition.
Maybe you might want to fetch around a bit and find out why your local grocery store isn’t selling purification drops for produce. Mexico has had these drops for DECADES now, but when I went online to see what people were asking about the first scare, with e-coli in spinach, the sites had “experts” who said that purifying produce is a very difficult thing to accomplish, but that “research is ongoing”. Ongoing? Why? All they had to do was look south. It’s already been DONE. Frankly, I have trouble believing that, of all these experts, not ONE of them has been to Mexico and learned about the purification drops. I think they’re trying to maintain public ignorance about them. Almost every household in Mexico has these drops; I wouldn’t dream of being without mine. With 10 drops per liter (or quart) of water, submerging my spinach fully for 30 minutes, and it’s ready for my salad.
So why can’t ONE expert tell you these drops exist? I even use my drops as a mouthwash; it works better, cheaper and doesn’t burn.
This is yet another thing Mexicans have that Americans need – and would want if they knew it existed at all – but which they DON’T have, because some people probably don’t WANT you to have them. And Americans don’t inquire too deeply; they’re trained to assume that nothing Mexico can do could EVER be better than what we do. They can use our built-in stereotoypes to keep us ignorant of things like these drops, and how well a national health coverage plan can work. Maybe you ought to ask the question “who gains”? It sure isn’t you. And if you don’t think you have stereotypes, because you’re not a bigot, I have to tell you that I’m fiercely anti-bigotry, but after moving here, I discovered that a few stereotypes HAD gotten into me without knowing it. They weren’t nasty, but still, it came as a shock – not the content of them, but the EXISTENCE of them within myself. How did they get there? So yes, it can happen to anyone.
I have a yahoo account called “purifyproduce.” You can write me there, if you’d like more input. Use “purify” or “produce” in the subject line, to distinguish from all the spam I get.
In addition to everything else, my purified produce gains an extra day or two in the fridge, too.
And if you think you don’t need them, let me (ahem) remind you of the last time you had “common diarrhea.” It wasn’t a quirk; you had an infection, and it came from something you ate, probably luncooked, like salad. No, it wasn’t e-coli or a parasite; it was a gentler bug that left you when the salad did, but you WERE sick, and purification drops used on the salad ingredients would have stopped it, cold. But maybe you don’t mind if it happens once in a while – some Immodium or Kaopectate usually holds it till it’s gone the next dy – unless you have the “squirts” and must attend an important, and lengthy, meeting. Ah, then…
Maybe if we could overcome our bigotries, we might be sharing things between us and Mexico that are of mutual benefit, like these drops. Mexicans have them, but YOU deserve them, too. They’re quick and easy to use, very inexpensive, and even a bigoted flamer could learn how.
Let me remind you of how LUCKY we are to live where we do, with sturdy democracies on both of our borders. Have you ever thought of that? Canada, U.S., Mexico – god are we lucky, all of us.
its hard writing in a scientific manner and then arguing in proper english… it is like speaking two different languages fluently
“honestly, it is your typical republican attitude showing here…you get mad and trash me because, IM BETTER THAN YOU and no other way is right”
Do you synthesize any drugs that could help me deal with my boiling, impotent rage at your superiority, kevin? Or at least help me accept and appreciate your superiority more fully?
I just can’t maintain any more, man.
Is this really a surprise? McCain is using the exact same political strategists that rigged the Florida 2000 election for bush. They are a bunch of weasels that think the people will believe anything they hear. My Adopted Father John “Mac” Stipanovich was on that team in 2000 disavowing 20,000 Votes and stealing Florida. These people put Party and Pocket Book before morals. Just an idea of what kind of slime is on the McBush ticket.
(“I got everything,” Republican Lobbyist Mac Stipanovich said to Gov. Jeb Bush. “I don’t know what the poor people got, but the rich people are happy and I’m ready to go home.” [St. Petersburg Times, 5/1/99])
And Mac is back at in FLA Stop him at all costs!
STOP THE SLIME!
Obama/Biden 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The followers share the emptiness of their leader. Once empowered, only Thanatos alone will survive their wrath.
(This thread is longer than some of those old Greek plays…)
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Comment by kevin on 10/5 @ 12:36 am #
its hard writing in a scientific manner and then arguing in proper english… it is like speaking two different languages fluently
Speaking one language fluently would be a start.
Vjay..im not talking to you
its directed to Spies, Brigands, and Pirates
sorry bro…. science is my life… i dont have friends i just sit at my lab bench and talk to myself
Kevin, by now I’m sure you’ve figured out that some here on PW are what you find at the bottom of Ronald Reagan’s drool cup. The festering sputum!
Ain’t’ay rites, rump Pirate, grrrrrrr.
yeah i know…. but its funny how they cant accept anything that their parents have not told them before
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Comment by kevin on 10/5 @ 12:41 am #
sorry bro…. science is my life… i dont have friends i just sit at my lab bench and talk to myself
So what. It’s Saturday night and I’m sitting in front of my computer with a single malt talking to you. Still no reason not to familiarize yourself with all of the features of your keyboard. At least make an effort.
– Tell you what thor-boy. You and little grasshopper there, with his Piled Higher and Deeper, can sit by yourselves for the rest of the night and toke on his days production.
– Sometime during the wee hours of the morning when you get really wasted and you can start seeing through your fingers, you can bore each other to suicide.
– Hows that work for you sport?
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Comment by Joe Six Pack on 10/5 @ 12:43 am #
Kevin, by now I’m sure you’ve figured out that some here on PW are what you find at the bottom of Ronald Reagan’s drool cup. The festering sputum!
Ain’t’ay rites, rump Pirate, grrrrrrr.
Thor, pick a name and stick to it.
BBH – Should have known you would beat me to the punch.
Anyone recognize me now? Musil’s trilogy, hint-thing now turded.
Fight the smears:
http://www.fightthesmears.com/
Here who is behind the smears:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/behindthesmears
“its hard writing in a scientific manner and then arguing in proper english… it is like speaking two different languages fluently”
OK, but you haven’t written anything scientific, so, relieved of that burden, I would think you’d be able to manage the whole “arguing in proper english” thing with no problem, what with all the heroic struggles you’ve already gone through to get your degree. I mean, I don’t see why your field of study is an obstacle to the Shift key, but, then again, I don’t have a science degree.
Oh, wait — yes I do.
Newsflash, sparky. The people on this board are more informed than you are. They have responsibilities that you can’t yet fathom. They’ve been through more, seen more, done more, and put more thought into pretty much every topic on which this board’s fine hosts choose to opine.
So, if you want to learn something, disabuse yourself of the notion that you have any relevant bits of wisdom to share with us. It’s highly likely that you don’t.
You — a college kid — stray onto a political board, admit you don’t follow politics, and then proceed to lecture us on the dynamics of a Presidential race that impacts most of us far, far more than it does you and which we have been following infinitely longer. Some balls on you, kid.
I know it’s late, but: Am I the only one thinking that this “kevin” person sounds like it might be the Latest And Greatest Incarnation of nishi?
By now Spies is masturbating himself to sleep. Even the victims of brain swell finally chatter themselves out and happy-yank into dream land.
What a head case Spies has become. I suggest we mail order a leather ball-gag to him so he has something to bite into.
Hahaha, on what, the Palin-Howler-Monkey doctrine!
Even though kevin seems to be for the best candidate (Obama), he is still displaying an attitude of superiority because of his education, and that is NOT acceptable. I’m highly educated, too, but I do NOT approve of this kind of attitude. Nor do most people with high education think that way.
People are created with equal rights and liberties, and though it’s true that intelligence isn’t doled out equally to all, that’s NOT a symbol of human superiority. My IQ is way up there, but I would never use it to feel superior to anyone. If anything CAN mark a person as “special,” it would be CHARACTER. And intelligence does not confer character on anyone, nor is anyone of fine character simply because of being ignorant. Each person chooses his own character, and lives with the consequences of that choice. Having higher IQ or more education simply gives a person less EXCUSE for having none. With a higher eduction, it is presumed he has studied the humanities, and can learn lessons about forming his own character from that. But even without education, people can be PROFOUNDLY honorable.
In fact, one of the finest people I have EVER known is an almost-illiterate Mexican lady who has been my domicilia (cleaning lady) for the past 15 years. I’m severely disabled and need this kind of help. She is one of the most thoroughly GOOD people I’ve ever known. I stand almost in awe of her. She’s extremey poor, but I’ve never missed a peso in all these years; her legs are purple – nothing BUT varicose veins – from the years she has labored for her large family. I’d do almost ANYTHING to make her life better or more comfortable, but I’m limited to SS for my income. I do what I can, though. Yet I’m sure my IQ outpaces hers, and easily. So what? Good people come in all IQs, and so, unfortunately, do the less honorable kind.
The dude calling himself “Joe Six-Pack” has a truly foul mouth. He shames all the Joe Six-Packs of America who are decent folks working hard, earning a living, caring for their families, and who don’t think filth should pour forth from his mouth to prove that he’s a REAL man. He proves it by being law-abiding and a good family man. So give yourself another name, chum. America’s REAL Joe Six-Packs don’t deserve it. It’s not their fault if they are on a beer budget instead of a champaign budget. They’re like most Americans these days: just trying to get by.
That kind of foulmouthed stuff only labels YOU. You belong in a zoo.
Oh, Jeffersonian? Something WAS hit square. The depth of dishonor to which Palin is willing to sink. That will always get media attention, especially when it is so obviously an attempt to win by fostering racism, xenophobia and other bigotries. It’s as low as it can get. Of course that gets attention – because THAT kind of behavior should never happen from a vice presidential candidate. If nobodies like us said them, that’s one thing, but from a person whom we might end up with as our president? This was taking a path even lower than the low road. She CHOSE to be uncivilized. Now she’ll have to live with it. Obama isn’t what the uproar is about; SHE IS.
nope. my shepherd mix, Roxie.
You know, after the stonewalling in Alaska on ‘troopergate’, the Kemper Marley/Don Bolles/Cindy Hensley connection, the Keating Five scandal, the humiliation of Rose Mofford on Capital Hill, the Alaskan Independent Party scandal, and on and on, you’d think these folks would think about the old admonition of throwing stones in a glass house. Palin took all of about two minutes after the debate with Biden to remove the mask of civility and launch into her real act, official mud-slinger. The junk about Ayers isn’t even worthy of a news headline, let alone these endless blog posts. McCain, Mr. I graduated 894th out of 897 in my class at the Naval Academy, and Mrs. Palin, Idaho somecollegerother degree in journalism, are the last people to criticize anybody. Being from Arizona, there are many of us who have followed McCain’s sleazy wanderings for years, his vitriolic temper, cruel jokes, putdowns (google his comments to his wife Cindy in the 1992 campaign, and then see if you can digest your dinner)…now we are watching him evaporate from sight and a stand-in soccer mom on steroids does the heavy hitting for him. He’s almost 72, not likely to be any competition in the future, so the GOP is grooming guess who…
Ooo, ooo, care for a chilled Bud, ooo, ooo?
Look, friend, I read every last word of your thoughtful and personalized post. I appreciate your thoughts. The spastic bowels on these diseased r-wingered faggots requires two-by-four warfare.
So fuck being nice, these overly-politicized Jesus creeps deserve their bleeding asses slammed, stabbed an curried. We’re funnin’ and goofin’, mostly, anyway.
Yeah H.B., we get it. No dissent, criticism, or examinatio! of Obama will be tolerated. Palin MUST be silenced.
Lee, you dumb-bag of fuck residue, this is PW, a glory-be Palin tributary.
I think thor’s been into that store-brand meth again.
Not that that’s anything unusual for him.
Thanks thor, I know I can count on your illuminating revelations.
Top notch as always…
thor had to switch to the bargain brand meth ’cause he got assraped on euro-denominated assets this week.
It was either that or fly home to blow his Daddy to get an increase in his allowance.
In anuy case, he’s still a useless little parasite who brings nothing to the table
You know, after the stonewalling in Alaska
You know, I’m pretty sure that Wittgenstein understood the concept of “paragraphs”. Also spelling, grammar, and punctuation.
Obama palling around with terrorists? Palin, you can blow away. What a bunch of desperate hooey. You’ve got no substance to speak of, so try to undermine the character of one of the smartest, wisest and finest Presidential candidates in history? What do you think you’ll do next, Palin, whiz on my shoes and tell me it’s raining? I don’t think so.
Nothing to the table SBP?
Why, just moments ago he informed me this is PW.
Not everybody makes themselves that useful.
And now, Eris and Phobos reveal the way to the end…
smartest, wisest and finest Presidential candidates in history?
He’s clean and articulate, too. Joe Biden told me so.
What I don’t understand is why it doesnt bother conservatives that Palin is dodging the subpeonas in the Alaska legislature…They were doing that prior to her being named VP candidate, so it wasn’t based on that… How come none of you are concerned about a guy who was pretty much last in his class and who’s classmates characterize him as someone who felt he was above the rest of him because of his fathers influence – which by the way was how he was accepted… Aren’t any of you morally right people a little concerned that he cheated on his first wife and pretty much admitted it in his book? Isn’t this the guy that most of you right wingers felt was way too conservative with his views on abortion and other key issues? Doesnt it concern you that he just ‘changed his mind’ in the last year? Don’t any of you think that if Obama was truly in league with any of these folks that this wouldn’t just be coming out now? This would have been the story of the decade for someone….
Lastly, any of you ‘good Christians’ feel a little funny that Palin and McCain are trying to lie and smear thier way into the White House…Maybe you guys should ask yourself WWJD, or does that only apply when things are going your way. Guess that religous demeanor is just an act for Sunday afternoons….
What I don’t understand is why it doesnt bother conservatives that Palin is dodging the subpeonas in the Alaska legislature
What I don’t understand is why we’re getting so many illiterate trolls tonight.
TakeAmy for instance.
Just 5 comments after we all learned PW is a “glory-be Palin tributary”
She wastes her time here spewing ignorance about Governor Palin.
I don’t see where she helped anyone.
Not sure what you’re insinuating.. I see clean Obama’s clean and articulate, and I came to that conclusion alone. :)
Not sure what you’re insinuating
Hint: that would be because you’re illterate.
Sorry, honey.
Ah. Now we get JP preaching.
Hoping to keep the witch out, I suppose.
THAT seems a little ironic.
sashal, I have read your comment and completely agree with you. Someone should send Palin back to Alaska, where she should take care of her youngest daughter and prevent her from getting pregnant. It would be a pity to force her to marry at her young age.
Is Palin really able to read, write or spell? A couple of days ago she not even knew the name of a journal such as The New York Times. We are pleased to hear that she makes progresses towards political literacy.
She can count herself lucky that she has not been asked during her debate with Sen. Biden more questions about Russia. If asked about Aleksandr Sergeevich Pushkin or Fjodor Michailowitsch Dostojewski I am afraid she would have answered that they are Russian oil magnats. My appeal to the educated American people is to vote for a person who is at least able to read and write. Thank you
Is Palin really able to read, write or spell?
And yet she managed to destroy the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in a debate.
Funny, that.
And we don’t give a shit where you’re from, Veronica. We’ve seen your country destroyed by fascists and socialists many times over, and we want none of it here.
Thanks.
I’m with you, JP. Palin dodging subpoenas in the Alaska legislature just doesn’t smell right. I don’t want anyone who dodges such subpoenas the way she has to be my VP. No clear answers, just the usual certain politicians claiming to be above the law. I don’t support it.
Palin dodging subpoenas in the Alaska legislature just doesn’t smell right.
You don’t even know what those words mean, Amy.
Spies, Brigands, and Pirates
You need to be enlightened and opened to new things because as Bob Dylan once said “The times they are changin”
You’re not in a position to talk, ya knee-bent ball-bobber. I piss with more thought than your best day working a pen.
Amy, I was just wondering what you think you accomplish by coming to a “conservative”*
blog and posting:
What do you think you’ll do next, Palin, whiz on my shoes and tell me it’s raining? I don’t think so.
*the owner prefers “classic liberal”, but he’s not here. Ha!
Back it up. Exactly how am I illiterate? (that’s with two i’s by the way) Insults alone don’t suffice.
Exactly how am I illiterate?
Start with your post #1100 and work from there.
Lee– I hope to accomplish the publication of my opinion and catch a glimpse into human nature by noticing how others think.
You need to be enlightened and opened to new things
“Reeducated”, perhaps?
You and what army, fascist?
“something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?”
Honestly, you should take a lesson from Bob Dylan
No, SBP. It is you who have called me illiterate. The burden of proof of my supposed illiteracy is upon you. If you find me ignorant of a fact, please disclose the fact of which you believe me to be ignorant. I’ll check your facts and come to a logical conclusion at another time and place.
Honestly, you should take a lesson from Bob Dylan
60s are over, kevin.
So are the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
Really.
The burden of proof of my supposed illiteracy is upon you.
I’m not sure how I’m supposed to “prove” it other than by pointing at a writing sample.
Which I did.
Wow Amy, I’m impressed. If that’s true you will enjoy this site.
As for your other concern, I believe there is a squadron of investigators chasing all that troopergate stuff down. I for one accept and even welcome it.
Why aren’t you open to investigation of Obamas dealings with Ayres, Wright, and Rezko?
Shouldn’t be a problem if he’s clean, right?
I have to disagree, his message is timeless just like Immanuel Kant’s enlightenment.
Cursed jizz gums up Pie-Pirate’s winky blinker whenever Sister Palin yodels. I suspect he didn’t see much of the debate.
what do you expect republicans are not enlightened.
Hey, thor: how are those euros working out for you?
Planning to buy more?
Heh.
Kevin, you really get into this cult stuff, huh?
Lotta weaving and bobbing here in these posts. Not sure what the long italicised thing was…weird.
Frankly, it seems to me that the obvious is the obvious. McCain/Palin are startin’ to hurt in the polls, and, naturally, they come out slinging the ‘guilt by association’ mud. One guy had a funny take on that: Obama is from Chicago, and Capone was in Chicago, so why didn’t Obama leave the city in disgust, rather than associate with such vermin?
McCain associated happily with Kemper Marley and Hensley, two convicted felons, the former of which financed McCain’s first run for office, and the latter provided him with his second wife. Further, both Marley and Hensley were under deep suspicion in the Don Bolles murder case. McCain also associated with the Keating bunch…that one seems to have slipped into the fog. Old bunch of corrupt politicos, including Dennis DeConcini from AZ, who happened to be a Democrat. McCain just barely avoided the same tar and feathering the others got. Or…how about his less than exemplary POW experience? What was it, 40 tapes for Hanoi? Or his lovely comment to Cindy during his 1992 campaign…google that one, I won’t quote it here, it’s too nasty. Witnessed and confirmed by three separate reporters. Or his deliberate humiliation of newbie governor Rose Mofford, taking the reins from impeached Ev Meacham, on Capital Hill. Let’s see…Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party, oh yes, those pesky rape-kits she thought the victims ought to pay for themselves, and on and on. These are not nice people. They have so many skeletons in their closets, Halloween could be held in their homes.
Did McCain stand up for Genocide in Sudan or for that matter even acknowledge it ?
And Yeti weighs in with the same copy-paste talking points we’ve already seen a hundred times at least.
You’re in a cult, Yeti. Sorry to break the news to you.
They revere Dolly Parton here. No-I’m-not-shittin’-ya, the Republican funhouse isn’t something that requires exaggerations. It’s fuckin’ true.
You tell us, kevin: what has Obama done to stop the genocide in Darfur?
Make sure it’s something he’s actually DONE. Talking doesn’t count.
No, really, thor. I’m seeking your financial expertise. Euros still a good investment? You were all about the euro this week, I recall. Why, I’m kicking myself for not putting every cent I have into them.
Why don’t you try something along the lines of “Palin is justified in dodging subpoenas in the Alaska legislature because ____(insert fact)_________”.
Until I have some legitimate reason to believe she-or any other politician- would be justified in dodging a subpoena, I will frown upon her dodging them, and rightly so.
The republicans are really willing to say and do anything to win……
And until you provide some evidence of her actually “dodging” a subpoena, we’ll continue laughing at you.
How does one “dodge” a subpoena? Hide when the process server comes to the door?
As I said, you don’t even understand what those words mean, Amy.
The Asian currencies in my portfolio seem to be doing quite well, crayola boi. Not that you’d have any money, illiterate liar.
Did McCain stand up for Genocide in Sudan or for that matter even acknowledge it ?
And in answer to your question, Google tells us:
He told the crowd that Americans had watched Rwanda, Srebrenica* and the Balkans unfold and, he said, “Americans are tired of hearing, ‘never again.'” He knocked China for blocking UN Security Council action, “because they have oil interests in the Sudan.” But he stopped short of saying the U.S. should send troops, but he said he’d incentivize African countries to send troops to stabilize the region by offering economic aid…n Congress, McCain has been a consistent supporter — if not vocal advocate — of Darfur legislation. On the bus today, he spoke a little more specifically about what he believes the course of action should be: The U.S. could offer troops for logistical and transport support, as well as pressure China to stop its delay tactics. Surprisingly, this short list actions echoes proposals suggested by Nicholas Kristof and — now that Sam Brownback is out of the race — goes beyond what the other GOP candidates have said about America’s responsibilities in the region.
Now, what has Obama done?
Let me help you Yeti.
The vast majority of regulars here don’t like the idea of McCain as our leader much more than you. The difference is we like Obama less. It’s because of the socialism thing, and his dangerous foreign policy ideas.
Plus this creepy organizing he has all you freaks doing is kinda off-putting.
So rip away friend, but you are changing nothing here. Just making us notice the smoke.
The Asian currencies in my portfolio seem to be doing quite well, crayola boi.
The euro is an Asian currency now?
Wow, they really HAVE expanded the EU, haven’t they?
How much of Daddy’s money did you lose, thor?
Go on, you can tell us. We won’t laugh. Much.
Thanks to Spies, Brigands, and Pirates for their reply:
And yet she managed to destroy the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in a debate.
It seems that your only laudable aim is to destroy! Yours are high Christian and moral standards. I have comletely forgotten that you conduct your wars in the name of God as islamists do! Which God, Ares?
If Palin and co. rely on people bearing such terrifying names (Spies, Brigands, and Pirates): Good night America.
And we don’t give a shit where you’re from, Veronica. We’ve seen your country destroyed by fascists and socialists many times over, and we want none of it here.
Your fine vocabulary denotes your cultural level. There is a very important thing you should know about Germany: We have learned from our mistakes. Whom do you mean by “socialists”? “Many times over”? You mean years ago, don’t you?
We have learned from our mistakes.
No, you haven’t.
Whom do you mean by “socialists�
You.
You mean years ago, don’t you?
No.
Now, what has Obama done?
Since kevin isn’t answering, allow me.
Obama’s position appears to be that the US should provide logistical support to Pan-African peacekeeping troops.
In other words, exactly the same position as McCain.
um, could you cite some of this? I’m not finding in in Thomas.
He visited Chad in 2006 and spoke with refugees. In that action he gave them hope that a higher power will be able to help them.
G’night, all.
The laughter still echoes from those who witnessed Crayola Pirate using all his candle power trying to get his head around the Republican bail out crisis.
An autistic child drawing a dinosaur, that was that.
I’m getting ready to go deep sea fishing, Pie Pirate, on a powered boat, putt-putt-putt. Draw a refrigerator worthy whale while I’m away, won’t ya.
How does one “dodge†a subpoena? Hide when the process server comes to the door?
As I said, you don’t even understand what those words mean, Amy.
Amy, You have to understand Governor Palin is still an American citizen, and has a right to due process. As an elected official, she needs to act “correctly” letting the lawyers move it through the system so the inquiry’s conclusions can’t be questioned by EITHER SIDE.
But I wouldn’t pin your hopes on a scandal. This has been investigated before. She has real high approval ratings for her work.
He visited Chad in 2006 and spoke with refugees.
Oh, well, then.
And that stopped the genocide right away, I take it?
Face it, kevin, Obama is all talk and no action.
See for yourself:
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/538471.html
Palin has refused to testify– to me, this is one of the most disturbing aspects of this story.
Please note this interesting quote: “I just can’t imagine any attorney advising a client that a subpoena is voluntary.” –Bill Wielechowksi, Judiciary Committee
Laugh away, if you want. I’m really not concerned.
you changed my mind…i want mcCain
I’m getting ready to go deep sea fishing, Pie Pirate, on a powered boat, putt-putt-putt.
How many euro did that cost, or do they insist on real money?
Oh, a legislative committee.
I thought you were talking about a real subpoena.
Wake me up when anybody goes to jail for that, will ya?
Thanks.
I’ll send you a Euro in the mail when you run out of food. No worries, Pie Pirate, I’m a good socialist.
I’ll send you a Euro in the mail
That’ll come in handy if I happen to be out of toilet paper at the moment.
Why not send me a whole wheelbarrow, so I can buy a cup of coffee or something?
No hopes are pinned only on a scandal, here. I could go on for quite a while about how Palin is as grating to me as nails on a chalkboard. This scandal is just a part of it.
Night SBP
Night, Lee.
I’m sure Amy. She seems to inspire strong reactions.
Like Obama.
Any new visitors who enjoy beating a fascist r-winger in the chops can click on the PW Pub link and find Spies’ own topical threads.
I encourage those who think he’s an asshole to let him know. I do.
Look how they rub their cocks on the others leg before they sleep it off; they’re cute like that.
You thor, are a charming individual and endlessly funny.
*eye rolls*
I’m getting my reels ready for action, Lee. I’m gonna catch me some Sarah ‘cuda and use it as bait fish.
That’s all ‘cuda is good for, as you know.
Look how
theyI rubtheirmy cocksonthe others legan Obama propaganda poster beforetheyI sleep it off;they’re cuteI’m a tool like that.Fixed that for our residential god of thunder and rock and troll.
Chum, actually. ‘Cuda ain’t worth a shit even as bait fish.
That’s all ‘cuda is good for, as you know.
You say so.
You’re the expert troller.
What do hair plugs taste like? They don’t fool humans. Do they fool trolls?
Are you two trolls dry humping now?
What do trolls eat?
To: Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/5 @ 2:49
hat’ll come in handy if I happen to be out of toilet paper at the moment.
If you happen to be out of toilet paper make sure that you find some bearing the images of your political protégés (you know whom I mean). You should take up a credit (in dollars from Lehman Brothers) in order to pay for the toilet paper.
Let us exchange some wise thoughts on 5th November 2008. Now I would prefer to spend my time by reading a good book.
Are you two trolls dry humping now?
Forget it thor. I’m not getting into some weird, internet circle jerk thing with you, thanks anyway.
I don’t roll that way.
Now I would prefer to spend my time by reading a good book
Is it a book about a well bred, American southern woman, being ravished by a plantation slave.
I can totally see you reading a book like that.
isn’t it interesting that palin is trying to paint obama as a not so patriotic american. it is my understanding that it was palin and her husband toddd who attended the convention of a radical fringe political party, the AIP, alaska independence party, which advocated seceding from the union. yes she apparently does not think that being part of america is a good idea and wanted Alaska to break away from being an american state. hard to believe, but is that her way of saying country first? this party has also explored the possibility of joining canada, and advocates alaska becoming a separate commonwealth state or separate nation. yeah Palin. go Palin. Country first? recently the aip has made a statement that ONLY todd palin was a member of this organization. thanks goodness someone who wants to be VP of the usa is only married to a guy who wants to have alaska go it separate way. you know if it was her whisky drinkin’ underage pregnant daughter who did this I’d say no problem, she’s just a terrific and wonderful kid. you don’t really choose your kids, but husbands are usually adults and make adult choices. and his choice was to join the AIP. do you really want a guy like him freeloading off taxpayers money?
some of that stuff came from Mexico. apparently, it’s just that you expect that to happen.
oh, ha, I missed your conspiracy theory there. sorry.
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link? can you please show where this is in their party platform?
Comment by lee on 10/5 @ 3:24 am #
Is it a book about a well bred, American southern woman, being ravished by a plantation slave.
I can totally see you reading a book like that.
You can “totally see” me reading this book? I will not read this book, I have my own taste and am able to decide over the books I read.
Poor southern woman! Have you ever read the books dealing with poor plantation women slaves ravished by rich white plantation (or oil fields) owners? The rich white plantation owners should have worked themselves on their plantations instead of using poor slaves. They should have freed the poor slaves in order to prevent them from ravishing southern women.
Forget it maggie, they have a whole list of sites they are instructed to copy an paste in.
Der One doesn’t like it when you don’t meet your quota.
Have you ever read the books dealing with poor plantation women slaves ravished by rich white plantation (or oil fields) owners?
No, but I’ve heard stories.
Hey, have you read about the Nazis enslaving Jews to labor in their war factories? They also should have done their own work I think.
I heard stories about what some death camp guards did to the Jewish women too.
I used to think that Senator McCain was an honest, decent individual of good judgment. I have since lost all respect for the man. In my view, he has been swallowed whole by the mouth of political power and greed at its worst, and will stop at nothing to get what he now desires. He has lost what once made him a good, admirable person. I fear for America if he is elected our president, and just hope that I am wrong in my assessment.
In my opinion, Senator McCain has become too blind to see that the people in control of his campaign have somehow convinced him that he must win at all costs, even if it means selling his very soul. Senator McCain, it is not too late. Take back your own campaign and demonstrate the honor and courage that once were yours. You have bravely lived and suffered within a world that has a mentality of war, and this has become your mindset. It is now time to use the strength and courage you have gained in your life experiences and, as difficult as it may be, do everything in your power to work for peace. Start within yourself; then give that peace to the world.
That’s exactly what he should do. Which is why he needs to tell us all about how we got into this mortgage/credit mess and how Obama has been lying about the cause of it. He needs to hang his Congressional colleagues out to dry for their role in creating this mess. He needs to lay ACORN bare. He needs to tell us all about Obama’s radical leftist circle and the damage they’ve done and yet intend to do. Ayers is just a part of that.
So much misinformation and made up cr*p flowing up from both sides backed up by websites of dubious validity…
The facts are that:
No – Obama is not some radical anti-American agent with a plan to bring down the nation. Then again, he is neither the messiah leading to a new golden age.
No – Palin is not some trigger happy war monger wanting to start something as stupid as going to war against Russia in the event of McCain’s death. Then again she is hardly the brightest lighbulb in the lights showroom.
What should matter to you Americans is who is going to be best equipped to get you out of the present situation you find yourself in.
Who would be the best to guide the country out of the current economic crater it is in right now?
Who can create jobs and improve the rapidly sinking educational system (just look how this has fallen as compared to other countries)?
Who has the policies to provide the best healthcare to the most?
Who can do the above without destoying what is left of the environment and making the world heat up faster then GWB’s popularity has sunk over the last year?
Wouldn’t it be great if people could actually debate policy as opposed to sling insults about … but of course that would be boring.
Grow up.
Does this mean the Obama campaign will begin swiftboating McCain for his association with a nonvetted troopergate offender?
“More people have been slaughtered in the name of christianity than any other religion and/or war”
I just realized that, actually, more people have been slaughtered in the name of the religion called communism.
Another reactionary leftist meme bites the dust.
Wait. Since when did right-wing-nuts appreciate the Geneva convention?
Since they read it, instead of assuming things about what’s in it as you do. HTH. HAND.
Son sees father’s handiwork in convention
From Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky, 1971:
Obama doesn’t want to bring the nation down. He just wants to change it into something unrecognizable as America.
Wow, thor got ronery this morning.
“Comment by kevin on 10/4 @ 11:36 pm #
Does anybody realize that McCain has cancer… had it multiple times in his cheek, why do we want to elect a sick old man into office when we wont last 4 yrs”
Which would make Sarah Palin President.
Hmmm….
YET ANOTHER REASON TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!!!
Lee:
No, but I’ve heard stories.
Hey, have you read about the Nazis enslaving Jews to labor in their war factories? They also should have done their own work I think.
Hey, have you ever heard of the US not allowing poor jewish people to enter the country during world war II? These poor jewish people were seeking refuge in the US while fleeing NAZI Germany. Only rich jewish people were granted immigration permission. Read some good books about your own country’s history before disputing about topics you have no idea about.
I heard stories about what some death camp guards did to the Jewish women too.
So did I.
Bush’s Guantanamo is actually not a death camp, is it?
“Comment by kevin on 10/5 @ 12:06 am #
actually I work in drug design, maybe one day you will become sick and God forbid, you will have to use a drug I helped design.”
You do realize, do you not, that if Obama is elected, you’ll be out of work?
Here’s the version I like: Ronald Reagan’s close friend, Walter Annenberg, gave $50 mil to finance the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, placing Bill Ayers on the distibution committee. So let’s see – how could R Reagan have remained friends with a man who was known to associate with 60’s radicals, etc.etc
When the McCain and Palin can not come up with a correct and logical answer for the U. S. economics ills they come up with relating Obama with a terrorists. When it is all over after November 4th and Obama wins the election Palin will be returning to her snow globe.
So now it’s time to do personal attacks. Sarah do you know the backgrounds of all the people on boards or panels that you have been on? I’m not electing Bill Ayers for office, and I doubt that we will elect you and John McCain either now that you have slid down into the mud.
Wonder what does Palin mean by “joe six pack” or does she know. Is she the type that hangs around “joe six packs”? Wonder what McCain military buddies say about his relationship with other cultures? Let’s hear from those guys and gals.
“After all, e-coli and salmonella are animal diseases, not ordinarily found on plant foods.”
I have rarely seen the depths of ignorance like that displayed on this thread by our, ummmmm….visitors.
Just a guess here, but, do you think most of them are going to vote for O!
‘Cause stupidity and reactionary leftism seem to go together.
“Comment by kevin on 10/5 @ 12:36 am #
its hard writing in a scientific manner and then arguing in proper english… it is like speaking two different languages fluently”
Case proven.
” Comment by Bruce Stipanovich on 10/5 @ 12:38 am #
Is this really a surprise? McCain is using the exact same political strategists that rigged the Florida 2000 election for bush.”
Case proved, yet again.
Now I would prefer to spend my time by reading a good book.
Try this one, followed by this one and this one.
If you really want an insight into what went on here last night, see this one.
Bush’s Guantanamo is actually not a death camp, is it?
No, it isn’t.
Compare this with this.
You Germans have so much to teach us about the proper running of a prison camp.
Comment by Veronica Milles (Munich, Germany) on 10/5 @ 1:57 am #
And again.
McCain- war hero who kept crashing his planes- flying was his passion. With his father a top shot in the
navy- how much did US compromise(secretly) for his release? – Eventually US lost the War with wasted blood. McCain -O- McCain , take out enemy military leaders & use the Surge as a cover- Rules of engagement(only in paper).Gun loving McCain’s & Palin’s will ruin America. Refer to the history of civilizations.
kevin, Bob D. Right back at ya:
I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
You’d know what a drag it is to see you
-Bob Dylan
And illiterate abi just keeps coming….
America has a new disease: Palinoia
“They should have freed the poor slaves in order to prevent them from ravishing southern women.”
It took a Republican to do that.
The Democrat Party has been the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and socialism.
“Comment by lionheart46 on 10/5 @ 5:31 am #
I used to think that Senator McCain was an honest, decent individual of good judgment.”
I’ll just bet you’re a lifelong conservative Christian Republican, too.
Hey, have you ever heard of the US not allowing poor jewish people to enter the country during world war II?
You mean the ones that were refused entry by socialist Democrat FDR?
Sure. A black mark on our country’s history, to be sure.
I’m bored with Baracky. I really don’t think people would put up with even half his flakey shit if he got to be president. I don’t think he seriously thought this all the way through.
“Hey, have you ever heard of the US not allowing poor jewish people to enter the country during world war II? These poor jewish people were seeking refuge in the US while fleeing NAZI Germany.”
Under that “progressive” hero FDR.
Oooops.
“Comment by Joseph Canaillo on 10/5 @ 7:52 am #
America has a new disease: Palinoia”
AKA PMS: Palin Madness Syndrome.
Saracuda just drives the reactionaries bonkers.
Ain’t it grand?
“Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/5 @ 7:51 am #
And illiterate abi just keeps coming….”
It ain’t coming, it’s just breathing hard.
Look at this place. Looks like we’ll have to scrub down the walls and re-paint.
I’m an independent. After reviewing the demeanor, logic, evidence, knowledgeability, and veracity quotients of the GOP-ers here, as well as taking the measure of their compatriots in other places, I am not impressed. I could have been influenced either way. However, your little hothouse of reprehensible tactics, pseudo-facts, twisted reasoning, juvenile and pottymouth insults has helped sink your candidate’s ship. As you hoped, you ARE important. The erudite without conscience have the power to persuade, even if they don’t realize what they’re selling.
One can only hope that education will improve character. I’m not interested in the Leopolds and Leobs of politics. There are too many of them in the GOP.
I thought Limbaugh was the be-all and end-all of that ilk. You do
I’m an independent too. You want you can kiss my ass.
Crikey! We lost another one! Quick, someone endorse Obama! Do it for conservatism! Do it for Classical liberalism!
I’m an independent.
And I’m Czar of all the Russias.
Only the first paragraph applies. Disregard the other two, please.
What’s wrong, observer, screw up your copy and paste?
You’re just not very good at this “lying” thing, are you?
Axelrod will be displeased.
To BARBARA, COMMENT 56
DO YOU CONSIDER THIS GROUP WORSE THAN THE KKK?
The only elected KKK member is a Democrat, silly.
I think they both suck really hard, Gerry. Which group do you like better?
“Well, no. McCain was a navy pilot. There’s lots of rules and restrictions on when they blow shit up.”
Was the guy who blew up the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade during the Kosovo “war” a Navy pilot?
“Terrorists, almost by definition, are the opposite of John McCain.”
Whose definition? Let’s say someone bombs the Motorola factory or power plant down the street instead of my own neighborhood. How many folks are going to make that distinction?
Hey, have you ever heard of the US not allowing poor jewish people to enter the country during world war II? These poor jewish people were seeking refuge in the US while fleeing NAZI Germany. Only rich jewish people were granted immigration permission. Read some good books about your own country’s history before disputing about topics you have no idea about.
Oh my … that comment is just too rich. A GERMAN criticizing the US for it’s behavior toward Jews during WWII.
Motorola? Damn but Baracky is a magnet for stupid. This will have implications for his administration I think.
A GERMAN criticizing the US for it’s behavior toward Jews during WWII.
Just following orders like a good foot soldier!
Can anyone say “CHARLES KEATING” or “JACK ABRAMOFF” . No ones past is beyond question . McCain would be exposed for his connections to these two fine individuals !
chris, it sounds like you’re just embarrassed that Baracky is super best friends with anti-American terrorists. Don’t be. He’s not.
LOL! CNN’s Martina Stewart writes “We’re going to get a little tougher,†a senior Republican operative said, requesting anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to discuss strategy. “We’ve got to question this guy’s associations. Very soon. There’s no question that we have to change the subject here.â€Â
A “senior Republican operative requesting anonymityâ€Â. How does this type of journalism get varification? This is disgusting tabloid trash writing by CNN.
Chris: Link to Abramoff or Keating attempting to set off a nail bomb at a soldier’s dance?
Thanks.
Oh, you mean the Jack Abramoff that McCain hauled before the Commerce Committee and exposed to the world what a sleaze bucket Abramoff is? That Abramoff?
I’m posting just afer seeing number 1224 go up. Amazing. So here are my comments:
1. No-one either reading or posting to this blog will change their minds come voting day. Everyone who is posting already knows which way they are voting.
2. There are no “facts” not “truths” to play with, just commentaries, points-of-view, personal opinions, and popular rumors. It doesn’t take a PhD to see that there are so many “facts” being posted here that contradict each other that they cannot be “true.”
3. People will choose the “facts” that support their already determined position, reject the “facts” that counter their position, or re-interpret those dissonant facts to make them fit their point-of-view.
4. Ergo, this entire thread is little more than a group catharsis and an exercise in self-promotion and absurdity. I can confidently predict the thread will therefore continue to the 2000 mark because we all like to read ourselves trying to sound clever and important.
Take this as my special contribution to the onanistic group blog.
>> Wait. Since when did right-wing-nuts appreciate the Geneva convention?
“Since they read it, instead of assuming things about what’s in it as you do. HTH. HAND.”
Yeah, Mr. Lee, just like the US Constitution, after reading it, they trashed it — ironically McCain initially opposed the right-wing-nuts selective re-definition of torture.
…
we allI like to readourselvestrying to sound clever and important.Fixed that for you, asswipe!
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we all I like to readourselvesmyself trying to sound clever and important.Damn!!!
I’m an independent, Russell and I switched my vote to McCain. We just can’t afford to put someone with terrorist connections in the White House.
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we allI like to readourselvesmyself trying to sound clever and important.Double damn!
Yeah, that one. These people really ought to find some undecideds to convince with their incisive rhetoric.
As an independent I am open to the arguments of both sides, Pablo.
Well, Russell, there really are such things as facts. But, and I know this takes some effort, you have to put your thinking cap on, and maybe one of those bitchin’ Sherlock Holmes ones too, and do a bit of research. Facts are for real (by definition) and the truth is out there. When you have contradicting things being posited as fact that doesn’t mean that they’re both false. But one of them probably is. The trick is to figure out which one it is.
“I’m an independent, Russell and I switched my vote to McCain. We just can’t afford to put someone with terrorist connections in the White House.”
so, Happy Feet, you prefer just to put a terrorist in the White House instead?
Lemme tell you a little about change, ‘feets. I hope you’ll like it, and I think you will. It gots rainbows and free pie.
Yeah, Mr. Lee, just like the US Constitution, after reading it, they trashed it
Gee kbwerx do you know if it was Bin Laden or Zawahari that signed onto the Treaty? I never have heard a answer to that. Since countries have to sign on to the treaty and agree to abide by it for it to apply.
Oh gosh! That’s right Al Qaeda isn’t a country is it.
“…so, Happy Feet, you prefer just to put a terrorist in the White House instead?…”
Do you actually mean anything by this, other than to be snarky/insulting? If so, can you fill what you mean in a bit?
@ SevenEleventy: Gee, I guess I forgot to add point 5: Some folks don’t have anything useful to contribute but can continue to get posts published (and thereby fulfill point 4) simply by tossing off ad hominem attacks. When in doubt – insult. Saves the trouble of making the brain work too hard ;)
Um, John McCain is a terrorist, kbwerx? Details, please.
No. I can’t vote for Baracky Chavez is all cause he’s an anti-American socialist that’s embraced by anti-American socialists that bomb America. It makes me uncomfortable cause I feel like I need to safeguard freedom in America. Just as sort of a gesture on my part. If Baracky Chavez would demonstrate that he values freedom it would be different. But he’s so proud of how he wanted to keep the Iraqi people under the brutal thumb of tyranny. That’s not a good sign, kbwerx.
Mr. Axelrod, Russell Cross for you on line 1.
Russell is so meta. I bet he learned that in college.
Take this as my special contribution to the onanistic group blog.
I guess I don’t know a compliment when I see one!
It’s good to see Russell taking his own advice.
Oh, and TEH BOOOOSH ADMINISTRATION!
Take this as my special contribution to the onanistic group blog.
Take this as my special contribution to you: go fuck yourself.
@ Pablo: “The trick is to figure out which one it is.” I admire your faith in the notion that truth and facts are out there but I am unfortunately cynical and jaded enough to believe that figuring out the real answer is so near to impossible as makes no difference. I’d point to the general behavior of the whole of human civilization to support this notion, which is full of lies, deceit, dishonesty, manipulation, violence, greed, and stupidity. For every “irrefutable proof” a person posts here, I can guarantee someone else will post the “irrefutable” counter-claim. Hey, someone will even post an irrefutable counter-claim to this post, “proving” I am wrong. C’est la vie.
Last post before I go back to real life: Seems like my point 5 has proved to be (a) right and (b) popular! And looks like the more folks do this, the closer we get to post number 2000.
>> Yeah, Mr. Lee, just like the US Constitution, after reading it, they trashed it
“Gee kbwerx do you know if it was Bin Laden or Zawahari that signed onto the Treaty? I never have heard a answer to that. Since countries have to sign on to the treaty and agree to abide by it for it to apply.”
“Oh gosh! That’s right Al Qaeda isn’t a country is it.”
royf, the US, a country, saw fit to sponsor and grow Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, when they served the purpose of fighting the Soviets; the neo-cons saw fit to look the other way on 9/11, when Al Qaeda served the purpose of dishing up Patriot Act ver 1 & 2; BCF and friends (Bush Crime Family/CarlyleGroup/Saudis) saw fit to look away from Bin Laden in Afghanistan and invade Iraq on false-pretense, creating a new magnet and training ground for Al Qaeda…
hell, the US “country”, BCF and Al Qaeda are long-time partners in terrorist crimes, themselves, all the while trying to define and wage futile “war” on “terroism” as only something the “enemy” does!
fuckers. stop proving Russel right!
link?
I am already voting for Obama so I don’t give a darned what the McCain side says. But I do have to comment that Palin is grasping at straws out of desperation. Even though I am not voting for McCain, I would love to see them advertise what changes they intend to make in this country. I’ve only seen ads on TV which attack Obama and talk about McCain as being the Maverick (which is a laugh in itself).
So on that note, I highly suggest that McCain and Palin grow up in the next month. They better start showing some positive effort rather than negative attack, or THEY WILL LOSE.
And you can tell this how, exactly? (That is without resort to some idea of openness, truth, honesty, altruism, intelligence, etc.?)
What are these guys called?
> Subject: Fw: 3 Men who brought down Wall Street
>
> Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have
> brought down Wall Street.
>
>
>
> Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie
> Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae
> when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae’s accounting
> activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted,
> ” Raines, who long defended the company’s accounting despite mounting
> evidence that it wasn’t proper, issued a statement late Tuesday
> conceding that “mistakes were made” and saying he would assume
> responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the
> company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its
> management in the wake of findings that the company’s books ran afoul
> of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.” Fannie
> Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.
>
>
>
> Raines left with a “golden parachute valued at $240 Million in
> benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of
> the accounting scandal became clear.
>
> http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government
> noted, “The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly
> manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly
> neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over
> twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the
> public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading
> and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports
> that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner.”
> These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return
> $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated
> Fannie Mae profits.
>
>
>
> Tim Howard – Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard
> “was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that
> would ensure
> a “stable pattern of earnings” at Fannie. In everyday
> English – he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation
> determined that, “Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to
> provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions
> within Fannie Mae,”
>
>
>
> On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice
> Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae
> executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied
> manipulating the mortgage-finance giant’s income statement to achieve
> management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the
> company’s board of directors since concluded that management did
> manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned
> under pressure in late 2004.
>
>
>
> Howard’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
>
>
>
> Jim Johnson – A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later
> forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of
> Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s May 2006 report on mismanagement
> and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you’ll see some interesting
> things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a
> substantial amount of Johnson’s 1998 compensation from the public,
> reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it
> was $21 million.” Johnson is currently under investigation for taking
> illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
>
>
>
> Johnson’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
>
>
>
> WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
>
>
>
> FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic
> Advisor
>
>
>
> TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
>
>
>
> JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
> selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee
>
>
>
> IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS – HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE
> EXPERTISE – THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Would you trust
> the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street ?
) simply by tossing off ad hominem attacks.
You mean like calling this an “onanistic group blog”?
Go fuck yourself, Russell.
he knows stuff.
““I’m an independent, Russell and I switched my vote to McCain. We just can’t afford to put someone with terrorist connections in the White House.—
I really hope that my fellow Americans are smart enough to research and see if this is true, rather than listening to Palin’s desperate pleas.
But I am finding more and more that my hope is unfounded.
With all respect, Russell, that isn’t cynicism, that’s a lack of curiosity and imagination. It isn’t all that hard, especially with a tool like the internet, to discard spin and go to the source material that will allow one to make an independent assessment of what the facts are.
So on that note, I highly suggest that McCain and Palin grow up in the next month.
Maybe they can set up a cult of illiterate copy-paste bots to attack the left-wing blogs.
Oh, right: that’s your side, isn’t it?
he knows stuff.
Well, he’s certainly an expert on onanism.
Hey, Doug, don’t do that anymore please. Or if you must (for ex., if you are compelled by some sort of inescapable psychological aberration), just link the damn thing. Thanks.
aaaaah, I lurves me some “Smart people are Democratics” in the morning.
I really hope that my fellow Americans are smart enough to research
Albert:
Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.
Do you deny it?
So…did I miss anything while I was up at Taji? You know, for a defeated army, those whacky Iraqis sure have alot of kit and training facilities up there.
Had a lovely Blackhawk flight back, and I drop into the comments section here and find crushed beer cans and Doritos all over the carpet. Jeff, did you invite someone from the HOA over or something?
You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Our country and our economy are in the dumps, and all you can do is argue and name-call?
Oh yeah, I forgot, this is an anonymous board with cowards hiding behind their IP.
Get out there and do something. You people are the reason why we’re all stuck in this rut.
frufrufru will now upload a scan of his/her/its birth certificate to prove that his/her/its name is actually “frufrufru”, yes?
frufrufru is right. We definitely need to purge those of you who aren’t with the program I think. Change! Now! O!
“Albert:
Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.
Do you deny it?”
Prove it.
Glad you made it back safely, Maj. (P) John.
BWAH HA HA HA HAaaaaaa
Ayers may be a terrorist but he has never repented of his love for Baracky. You have to admire someone who inspires that kind of loyalty.
“Maybe they can set up a cult of illiterate copy-paste bots to attack the left-wing blogs.
Oh, right: that’s your side, isn’t it?”
Is this the best you can do?
NEXT.
Prove it.
Here you go:
I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Next.
here ya go Albert.
I won’t be holding my breath waiting for that apology, “Albert”.
Oh yeah, I forgot, this is an anonymous board with cowards hiding behind their IP.
As quoted from frufrufru. I’m laughing to hard to add a comment.
JINX!
you owe me a coke, SBP.
Gotta be fast around these parts, Maggie. :-)
Hey Maj (P) John, the infidels were pouring over the walls there for awhile but the waves seem to have abated somewhat this a.m.
Oops, spoke too soon.
A Delta force guy has a book coming out ‘splaining the Tora-Bora probs though. Should be at least marginally interesting.
Maggie and SBP:
Provide reputable links, please. You can quote in your posts all you want but it’s not enough.
Palin just said this recently. I’d suggest doing a site search for “Ayers”. This isn’t news to anyone but you, apparently. That Ayers is a terrorist is established. That Ayers and Obama are associates is established. Try doing a little of that research you’re hoping for.
“I won’t be holding my breath waiting for that apology, “Albertâ€Â.”
Apology for what? You quoted something and I want to know where it came from. Simple.
Baracky doesn’t have any reputable links, Albert. Except maybe Oprah. It’s mostly terrorists and anti-Semites. That’s why Baracky appeals so much to people that hate America and Jews.
“Palin just said this recently. I’d suggest doing a site search for “Ayersâ€Â. This isn’t news to anyone but you, apparently. That Ayers is a terrorist is established. That Ayers and Obama are associates is established. Try doing a little of that research you’re hoping for.”
Why should I research? People on here say that he is, and I am simply waiting for a link or something other than a quote. The burden of proof is on you. Otherwise…what you say means dick.
Provide reputable links, please.
There’s a link to the New York Times in my post, dumbass, also in Maggie’s. It’s that orange thingie.
>> I really hope that my fellow Americans are smart enough to research
Albert:
“Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.
Do you deny it?”
SBP:
whether it’s one or a handful of “weathermen” failing to live up to ideal of blowing up a building… or a “daddy’s boy” Navy flight jockey, crashing his plane while delivering Uncle Sam’s munitions in a failed mis-guided war… or a new generation of self-styled “patriotic heroes” intimidating the rest of the planet with their cruise-missiles and remote operated “smart-bombs” and drones… you cannot be selective when defining “terror” — thus my main premise of the hypocrisy of Palin, McCain, Obama, Chavez, CNN, Fox News, or any blogging wannabee standing on a soap-box, pointing a finger at some other, shouting the the now meaningless word, “terrorist”.
I did. you don’t like the NYT?
that’s what those orange words are.
Albert’s just mad cause his messiah is an anti-American terrorist sympathizer and Governor Palin called him on it.
“I did. you don’t like the NYT?”
Where, on this list? Where is it? How many times do you need to be asked before you get it into your brain?
Forget it. Obviously you’re not competent enough to do one simple thing.
maggie: JINX. Now we’re even.
*sigh* whelp, matinee time. have fun guys.
Where, on this list? Where is it?
Right here, dumbass.
Click it.
Then shut the fuck up.
Baracky wants to let greasey union people get all up in my face with a card that they’ll make me check and then I will have to pay monies to the union so they can advocate more socialisms. That’s not terrorism cause it’s less honest.
1283 and 1284, Albert, click on the orange words… the quote is the first sentence of the article…
It is simply amazing to me that the McCain-Palin campaign would revert back to dirty politics to yet again confuse ill-educated voters into voting for 4 more years of Bush politics. McCain’s campaign truly sought to have a debate on the issues at its outset. However, realizing he could not win the election due to his inferior plans to change the country by effectively addressing key economic and social issues, he has chosen to (yet again) display the willingness of the Republican Party to use whatever means necessary to get control of the White House. I really thought McCain might be the person to restore a little bit of honor to the Republican Party, but he’s not the Maverick he claims to be. He’s an old man confused by simply technology, a man incapable of considering any foreign relations policies involving diplomacy rather than war. It’s time that the young and educated really stand up to push the McCain-Palin ticket into failure. Let’s talk about the issues. Let’s show how ill-equipped they are to deal with these issues. Let us be the instruments of change.
Palin, by the way, is the last person I would want to run our country. It would be a disgrace to our country, male and female, if she were to be the first female VP (or potentially president). I’m a feminist at heart, and I truly want to see a society in which men and women are on an equal tier in all aspects. However, I am appalled that we are not willing to grill Palin’s ineffective plans and stances on key political issues simply because she is female. I’m not sexist; I’m a realist. She has no idea what she is doing.
okay, really leaving now.
Albert are you really that stupid? How in the world did you get to this site? Did you steal a laptop from someone who had it as home page?
Hmm! Are there any PW regulars missing a laptop?
Read this months copy of Rolling Stone about John McCain. You’ll see just what he is all about, and its not good. Sarah Palin and the likes of McCain’s campaign will do nothing short of rob, steal, kill, and cheat to get into office. That is what McCain has been about in his early days, and that is what he’s about today. Palin is just along for the right…”No whatta I mean Joe Six pack”? We’ll see how ‘Joe Six Pack’ she is when her financials are released tomorrow. She’s a millionaire in Joe Six Pack clothing. Is there any truth to the entire McCain campaign???
“Albert’s just mad cause his messiah is an anti-American terrorist sympathizer and Governor Palin called him on it.”
The anti-Americans are those who are voting for McCain because they are cowards and believe their country is better off as it is, bankrupt, in debt, with a bad economy, very little health care, programs being cut right and left, money lining the pockets of greedy politicians, and still a target for terrorist attacks.
I am done with that. If you don’t care enough about your country, fine, but that makes you the one who is anti-American. And I feel sorry for you.
Obama 08.
It is simply amazing to me that the McCain-Palin campaign
It is simply amazing to me how incapable of original thought you Obamabots are.
C’mon, joroto. You can reduce, reuse, and recycle more better than that. Give it another go, tiger.
Did we ever find out which lefty site linked pw? This is a bit much for CNN. I think the trolls will think they’ve won this thread when it consists of a string of debunked copy-paste block text.
Thanks, SBP, it’s about time someone did it.
And no, I will not shut the fuck up.
I must really be pissing you off. Poor baby. Try some therapy.
[…] of questionable associations (what helped shape his policies of radical leftism, no doubt). “Palin says Obama ‘palling around’ with terrorists”, starting with William Ayers, the radical terrorist who formed the Weather Underground and bombed […]
Read this months copy of Rolling Stone
Sure, right after I finish my copies of Mother Jones and News Items From Our Dear Leader Kim Il Sung.
Seriously, you actually read that rag?
Thanks, SBP, it’s about time someone did it.
It was in my first post, dumbass. Go back and look.
Rolling Stone is gay. You can tell from the ads.
Wow. Rolling Stone. Like, deep, heavy shit, mann.
I really hope for the sake of you McCain supporters that you start trying to think of ways to help this country, rather than using the same valuable (?) brain cells to attack Obama. If that is who you truly think, then who are the REAL anti-American people here?
I feel sad for all of you. Good day.
And Albert, you will now admit that Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist, yes?
Hollow laugh.
Do you even read the bullshit you write, Albert?
“Thanks, SBP, it’s about time someone did it.
It was in my first post, dumbass. Go back and look.”
And now we’re resorting to name-calling.
Grow up.
“I really hope for the sake of you McCain supporters that you start trying to think of ways to help this country”
i.e., not electing the socialist.
then who are the REAL anti-American people here?
The people who hang out with guys who tried to detonate nailbombs at an Army dance?
The anti-American people are the ones that want to emulate Europe and socialize the economy and cripple our defense. I would have thought that was clear.
And now we’re resorting to name-calling.
Albert: do you admit now that Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist?
Yes or no, please.
Thanks.
maggie forgot to implement the “declare victory before leaving” strategy.
“who are the REAL anti-American people here”
Terrorist supporting, Iraq-wannabe-surrendering Democrats. What do they feed you guys at O! hq. That gruel needs some more protein.
Honestly, every time I see a clip of Obama on the stump, he is either twisting truth or attacking the Republican ticket. I have a hard time even listening to him.
Seriously, do you trolls have a single good argument? Why not make a case for socialism, since that’s what you’ll be supporting this November.
And no, I will not shut the fuck up.
Followed by:
Good day.
You lose, Albert.
Sorry.
[…] of questionable associations (what helped shape his policies of radical leftism, no doubt). “Palin says Obama ‘palling around’ with terrorists”, starting with William Ayers, the radical terrorist who formed the Weather Underground and bombed […]
Baracky doesn’t have a record to run on is why, Carin. He’s never actually done anything. He wrote two books about his fecklessness and how good it feels to hit on a joint when your mommy and daddy don’t love you. He’s trying to consolidate the loser vote. That’s how Hugo Chavez does it.
Russell, the onanist, could probably provide the protein while thor’s fishing.
Is it just me, or are the most angry, immature, argumentative, and bitter posters in these blogs always the ones who defend McCain/Palin?
Good point hf. Now what other famous leaders wrote an autobiography in their political youth? Hint: It rhymes with Laid-off Spitler.
“Is it just me, or are the most angry, immature, argumentative, and bitter posters in these blogs always the ones who defend McCain/Palin?”
It’s you.
It’s just you!
Is it just me
It’s just you, Daria.
Comment by Daria on 10/5 @ 10:52 am
Make a legitimate point, i.e. don’t try to say that Ayers is not an unrepentant terrorist, and you will be elevated above illiterate troll. Maybe.
“You lose, Albert.
Sorry.”
No hard feelings, SBP. Just Keep telling yourself that.
Yeah, it’s definitely you, Daria.
“When you have contradicting things being posited as fact that doesn’t mean that they’re both false. But one of them probably is. The trick is to figure out which one it is.”
But that requires that one does the research that will, in the end, contradict there fragile belief system. Therefore it’s better to stick to the whole there-are-no-facts meme then to go find them. It is interesting that Russ would bring it as an argument in defense of O! basically proving the point that most here have been making about O! followers. Sheep.
No hard feelings, SBP.
I thought you were leaving, Albert.
Is Ayers an unrepentant terrorist or not?
Yes or no. Failure to answer is an admission of defeat.
Comment by Albert on 10/5 @ 10:54
Um, dude, try again.
I got on this thread last night and came back this morning, I have to say I’ve been laughing my ass off at these zerobots.
They remind me of crash test dummies.
No reason to insult crash test dummies, royf!
Crash test dummies OR Turing test?
What does a terrorist seek to accomplish? To Destroy! and To Create Fear! I guess that Sarah Palin is the “Terrorist”
Of course you are right, my sincere apologies to all crash test dummies….
Yoohoo? Albert?
I guess that Sarah Palin is the “Terroristâ€Â
I guess that you’re not very smart.
Actually, that’s more than a guess.
Hard as it might be to believe, I think the quality of the trolls is declining over time.
I’d guess we’re now getting down to the really, really stupid ones (or perhaps the ones who got really wasted last night and are just now getting the memo).
“What does a terrorist seek to accomplish? To Destroy! and To Create Fear!”
O!’s agenda:
1. Replace Capitalism with Socialism. [destroy, check]
2. Stop the advance of the Oceans, help the hapless polar bears killed by Halliburton. [fear, check]
3, etc, could go on all day
They don’t pass the Turing Test. Incredible.
Hey look, AP’s got the trolls back:
“Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as “not like us†is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.”
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93KD6Q00&show_article=1
I echo the sentiments of Observer in post 1217 and Foreigner in 1186.
Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 11:14 am
Whassa matter? Can’t form a coherent thought on your own?
Dash, check here and sequels.
What’s the problem Amy don’t you know how to cut and paste from your memos?
Daria, no it is NOT just you. You made an excellent point.
Where “excellent” equals “empty”.
Oh no, I’m so insulted. Do you have some kind of problem with people agreeing with other posters?
Are you the same illiterate Amy from last night or a new one?
Daria made a point? Where? She made an unsupported assertion.
Unsupported by logic or reason.
Thanks for playing Amy.
Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 11:19 am
Not at all, why don’t you just say it yourself, continue the thread vs. citing previous troll posts.
According to Russell, that’s onanistic, Amy! Do you agree with that characterization?
Excellent equals empty–> false.
Substance, Troll! Substance! We want something to chew on.
I think it must be a different Amy. The one last night didn’t seem quite as stupid.
There was no illiterate Amy last night here.
Can we now raise the level of discussion from ad hominem attacks to pointing out facts please.
State your facts.
State your facts.
1300 posts, sweetie.
Read them.
If I’m not mistaken, the lefties are here to beat down any criticism of the O!. I’m perfectly content in my support of Sarah P and Johnny Mac, so unless you have something else to contribute that hasn’t been debunked. I’m all ears.
You mean, like, Daria’s facts?
This thread, long ago, traversed into the absurd. PWer are just coming here, now, to beat on trolls. If you’d like to debate issues, I suggest you visit a different thread.
Hmmm.
Daria’s point is empty (would you rather call it factless? cause we can do that too, if you choose).
You call it excellent.
Therefore, I think, excellent must mean empty, if I’m following you aright.
So it ought not be false, since that is the meaning you’ve chosen to give it.
You agree with Daria, that’s a stated fact! I declare victory, yay me!
Is it too late for me to get in on this onanistic group action? I could bring the baby oil.
Its sad when you have to go to Saturday Night Live or Comedy Central to get a real perspective of these elections. They’re the only ones presenting anything near the truth about these trashmouth Republican tactics. Outrageous! Are they really so dumb to think that over 50% of Americans don’t have enough judgement to NOT have a terrorist leading the polls? Let’s face it, the average American has better judgement than Little Me. He’s a total nut case. Need proof? Go lock yourself in a closet for 5 years and see how sane you are when you come out.
Fortunately there is pleanty of hope. The money men know the real odds, not tainting the polls so people don’t realize the impending Democratic landslide and stay home on election day and wind up losing it, and are predicting a landslide defeat for Little-Me and the Fear Mongerer, currently with only a 1 in 3 chance of winning this election.
Its a proven fact now that Republicans are liars, but these days I also realize they must have to take amnesia pills every day and eat with nose clips to keep that steady a diet of BS.
http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election-2008/to-be-elected-president
Is this thread like fly paper for Obamabots? Call it the Iraq of comment threads.
It is also strange that some (#410, #856, #1232) seem to think they are still on the CNN site.
DPA–Yeah, they’re heroes, and I support them. It’s just that they’re psychotic.
Here’s a fact: Obama is being accused of associating with terrorists, by his opponent’s running mate. Palin ultimately wants us to believe that somehow Obama does not have America’s best interests at heart and would seek to destroy the nation, and in turn debase her running mate’s opponent’s popularity. Ultimately.
I think Palin’s notion is ridiculous. I’ve read Obama platform (I’m literate) and I’ve heard him speak in person. The short of it is–(opinion) he demonstrates a true purpose of protecting America and Americans’ way of life. He cares for the economic well being of all his constituents. So, (opinion) linking him with terrorist activities appears to me to be a move made in desperation by a campaign that knows its popularity is slipping.
Obama was working with Ayers at the Woods Fund in 2001 when he had that photo of him standing on the flag taken for the interview when he said that his only regret was that he didn’t do enough, Amy. Nice friend.
Between them, they threw over $150 million into lefty reformations of the Chicago schools with no appreciable improvement.
If you’d like to debate issues, I suggest you visit a different thread.
Too true!
SBP, a suggestion for the next version of TrollHammer: checkboxes.
Having to reload this page after every ‘hammering, is getting old. It’s actually taking longer to dump one troll than for two more to come in and post their inanities.
Dear Amy, Senator Obama “linked” himself with Bill Ayers and Ayers wife Ms. Dohrn many years ago, the earliest proven time being around 1995, though some think they may have been linked as early as 1988.
“Did we ever find out which lefty site linked pw? This is a bit much for CNN. I think the trolls will think they’ve won this thread when it consists of a string of debunked copy-paste block text.”
At the CNN page it lists PW as one place to discuss the CNN article. However the previous post (Ayers to the Throne) is also CNN linked and it didn’t get hit.
An astroturf swarming. It’s why I thought of the “Camp Obama” people. Smells of Community Organizer for Dummies.
But, you know, Ayers standing on an American flag and Rev. Wrights anti-American and anti-whitey rants, those were “mainstream” to Chicago culture, according to the O!
I thought we were suppose to state our facts. Since we are now stating our opinions, I think Obama wants to steer us towards socialism.
Here’s a fact: Obama is being accused of associating with terrorists, by his opponent’s running mate.
And here’s another: Obama did associate with terrorists.
Next.
Astroturf: Twist and Shout!
Don’t forget, geoffb, the Obama Action Wire is meant to function as a garrotte. Confer, Stanley Kurtz and David Freddosso’s separate appearances on the Milt Rosenburg show.
Not to mention threatening the broadcast licenses of stations that run political ads that they don’t like.
Turing tests. Gollems. Talos. The Tin Man.
…big empty holes where their hearts should be.
I notice that none of them took advantage of the Fallacy Files.
Of course, most of us have trouble accepting things new and different, no matter the truth, the facts, the proofs, the history or the evidence contrary to our beliefs. It’s called psychological neoteny. Which arises from developmental neuroplasty, which means that as we age, aside from public education’s genocidal war against curiosity, means that as we age, learning new things becomes ever more difficult. Which is why Lenin said, “Give me four years to teach the children, and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” However, Lenin never studied Game Theory. Socialist theories will always lead to death, failure and destruction, in the end, destroying that which it claimed to save.
Gollems. Talos. Tin men. …and empty hearts which can never be fulfilled by anything less than the destruction of the world. Zeus, unsatisifed and eternally angry at having been screwed over by his brothers. His goal is domination, even if it means the destruction of all that he claims to love. (Utu/Marduk of the more ancient pantheons.)
His children now run amok.
But he’s a Constitutional scholar! He’d never do such a thing!
SBP,
Earlier I was trying to eliminate everything except the Obamabots so I could post it as a reference guide to “da crazy”. Found that after hammering off everyone except them, when I selected the text it still had all posts. I could print just the trolls, and save the page showing just them but haven’t figured a way to get a text file that could be posted.
I think that this can move to Jeff’s latest post, demonstrating the relations between O! and his pals.
Found that after hammering off everyone except them, when I selected the text it still had all posts.
Right, the current version simply sets the text to invisible, it doesn’t actually remove it.
The newer version, which I hope to have up today, actually replaces the text with “(trollhammered)”. It should work better for what you’re trying to do.
I think Obama wants to steer us toward complete energy independence and renewed national prosperity.
I think Obama wants to steer us toward complete energy independence and renewed national prosperity.
I think you’re extremely gullible.
Now that we’ve had this frank exchange of viewpoints…
Do you agree that Obama associated with an unrepentant terrorist?
A simple yes or no answer will suffice.
#1311
Comment by Albert on 10/5 @ 10:42 am #
“Albert’s just mad cause his messiah is an anti-American terrorist sympathizer and Governor Palin called him on it.â€Â
The anti-Americans are those who are voting for McCain because they are cowards and believe their country is better off as it is, bankrupt, in debt, with a bad economy, very little health care, programs being cut right and left, money lining the pockets of greedy politicians, and still a target for terrorist attacks.
I am done with that. If you don’t care enough about your country, fine, but that makes you the one who is anti-American. And I feel sorry for you.
Obama 08.
Gosh. You certainly changed my mind. I’m going to out right this minute and vote for Barak Obama, five or six times. More even.
So tells us Amy, what is Obama going to use as transportation fuel when He steers us to complete energy independence, hmmm? Oh, and just for the record, HE is going to do this when?
SBP,
Thank you!
No I do not.
All I can tell you zerobots is that I have always been a independent and I’m still not registered with either party.
Of course I swore I would never vote for a dem again after the disgusting way they voted to go to war against Saddam then before our Troops could even reach Baghdad they were telling the world we were already in a quagmire. And have continued to do everything they can to undercut and undermine our President and our Military everyday.
And of course now you nominate a man whose has gone to incredible lengths to conceal his past, although it is known that every major player in Zero’s story is a racist, a marxist/maoist or a crook. I wouldn’t vote for Obama even the Communist party of the USA says he is a mole, The guy is a sleaze its just ashamed a Black has finally been nominated for the Presidency but he nothing but a sock puppet of anti American people and organizations.
I can see why you think you belong to O
He never tried to make you think, or let you see one thing for sho’
But now you’re trolling message boards and he is all alone
You see he took your brain and replaced it with a clone.
Amy what you wanna do?
I think we could laugh at you
For a while, maybe longer if you do..
(apologies to PPL)
No I do not.
Obama associated with Ayers. Fact. Do you deny it?
Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Fact. Do you deny it?
If you persist in your denial, what does it say about you? And why should we bother engaging with you any further?
Obama would work to “Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars — cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon — on the road by 2015” and “Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined.”
That’s part of it.
You see, Amy…politicians sometimes say that they’re going to do things that they’re not actually planning to do, and couldn’t possibly do.
You’re pretty young, aren’t you?
Spies,…
Pretty simple world you live in isn’t it?
No worries. Just go grab yourself a couple of sixpack (or maybe a couple of cases) for Nov 4th. “Betcha yur gonna need um.” Then you can stack up the empties, call them all terrorists and kick them all down. In the meantime, be sure to check under the bed every night. Never know when Osama will be sleeping in. That should keep you happy, if not entertained for quite awhile. And remember to check those betting odds every day … “also”.
Amy, where do you think the energy is going to come from to plug those cars in? Wind? Solar? Environmentalist are already objecting to transmission lines to transport the electricity! The litigation will take ten years!
“Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined”
Except he refuses to drill for our own oil. Nonsensical at best.
“Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars  cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon  on the road by 2015”
Magic hybrids running on an already strained power grid, all the while O! refuses new nuclear plants. Again, nonsensical. Where are these hybrids coming from? Gov’t incentives? Subsidies? Pie in the sky.
DPA, don’t worry about it: we can spend the next four years claiming that, because we’re “patriots”, he’s not our president.
Well golly gee you’re right, that’s “part” of it (parts can be tiny too). But do you have any idea, Amy how many cars there are on the roads in the US today? Is our population growing or declining? Will there be more cars in a few years or fewer? What about semi-trailer trucks Amy? Can they operate on batteries, do you think? (Do you think?) Oh, and how about trains? Batteries?
Where is the extra electricity going to come from? More coal fired boilers perhaps? Or is the magic Obama going to snap his fingers and make nuclear power plants appear suddenly all over the landscape?
And all that doesn’t even begin to recon the immense economic difficulties involved in these sorts of wide scale transitions of infrastructure. See, in the big wide world, your economy has to remain competitive with the other economies out there, which other economies won’t be playing by your constraints.
“Palin attacked Sen. Obama on Saturday for his brief political relationship with Bill Ayers, a founding member of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including attacks on the Pentagon and the Capitol. Obama was a child at the time of the bombings.”
“Obama and Ayers, now a university professor, have met several times since 1995, when both worked with a non-profit group trying to raise funds for a school improvement project and a charitable foundation. CNN’s review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.”
“[Palin] referred to an article in Saturday’s New York Times about Obama’s relationship with Ayers, now 63. But that article concluded that “the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called ‘somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'”
Also:
“The extent of Obama’s relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood … the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago  when I was 8 years old  somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense.”
So, with the facts checked, I conclude that Obama associated with Ayers only inasmuch as they worked casually on volunteer projects together. That doesn’t make Obama any kind of terrorist. We can say that Ayers *was* a terrorist, “unrepentant” is another topic. Palin’s claims are misleading and her motives are the lowest of the low.
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Amy, he’s endorsed Billy’s educational philosophy, which is to make sure that reading, math and science contain a reasonable quota of lefty indocrination. See, that’s what the public schools are for.
Electricity can come from wind and solar, and especially geothermal, in my home state. It can come also from clean coal and clean nuclear. Bottom line, though, we as a nation should not ignore renewable forms of energy.
Obama says one thing, those pesky auto engineers say another.
I’m curious, though. What do you plug those cars into? A tree? A windmill?
I think that Obama’s support of A.C.O.R.N. has been overlooked, here. Not to mention those checks he received from them for his legal work on their behalf. Then, there’s A.C.O.R.N.’s ties to Fannie and Freddie and Mr. Raines and Mr. Johnson, and Obama’s ties to all of them…
Ya know, in ancient Greece, acorns were a dietary staple. When processed, they can be used to make flour, meal and other food stuffs. Add some olive oil and goat’s milk, with a cup of wine and some cheese on the side, and you’ve got a good meal.*
*(Process the facts and information with some real world pragmatism and you can get to the truth. [Some of the trolls are intellectually challenged, so I hadda spell it out for ’em.])
“…only inasmuch as they worked casually on volunteer projects together…”
Causally doling out $150,000,000.00 no doubt. Well for all the good that money did for Chicago schools, I guess you could be right, it was “causal”.
Obama and Ayers, now a university professor, have met several times since 1995, when both worked with a non-profit group trying to raise funds for a school improvement project and a charitable foundation.
A “school improvement project” which burned through $150 million of funding, yet oddly produced no measurable school improvement (but did funnel a lot of money to former Weather Underground and SDS members).
Despite the spin, it’s clear that they worked together for a long period of time, Amy.
It’s also a fact that Obama kicked off his first campaign with a fundraiser at the Ayers home.
But you’re in denial, aren’t you? Obama has assumed the place in your libido that quite recently was held by Zack Efron, Leonardo DiCaprio, or The Backstreet Boys, so you’re simply not going to accept anything negative about him.
Enjoy your crush while it lasts.
apologies, “casual” was meant.
Obama says one thing, those pesky auto engineers say another.
But Obama has a Harvard Law degree.
That’s like being the Pope, I think.
“Electricity can come from wind and solar”
It sure can, but in miniscule amounts, cf. California. Cali closed down a nuclear plant that generated 900 MW, powering 900,000 homes, and built a solar plant in its stead that generates 4 MW. Now Cali is importing energy from neighboring states + rolling brownouts in the summer. Electricity from solar and wind are no viable on a large scale; for individual homes, sure, but this country cannot sustain itself of wind/solar.
“clean coal and clean nuclear” would be great. Joey Biden says no to clean coal though. I’ll believe the Dems support nuclear when I see it.
It won’t be much different than the Tinkerbell world you’re aready living in then, will it now.
Note. The US hardly imports jack from both Saudi and Venezuela combined, so truthfully its NOT a big problem or a big promise either. In fact its possible to replace those imports tomorrow morning with corn oil. Enjoy the cobs.
So, with the facts checked, I conclude that Obama associated with Ayers only inasmuch as they worked casually on volunteer projects together. That doesn’t make Obama any kind of terrorist
Congrats! You’ve proven that Obama isn’t a terrorist. But, Amy, are you familiar with the term “strawman”?
No, neither Obama nor any other candidate can snap his fingers and make new power plants appear. But a President Obama can promote the need for them and promote investment in them and help it become known as a national priority.
Note. The US hardly imports jack from both Saudi and Venezuela combined
Note: You are a liar.
“…tomorrow morning with corn oil…”
Jeez, there is some industrial strength stupid going on here today.
BTW, a nuclear airburst is cleaner than “clean coal”.
And he can do this so much more effectively than McCain because he doesn’t owe anything to the environmental fringe, right, Amy?
Amy, you’re really trying hard to avoid this, but I’m not going to let you off the hook.
1) Did Obama associate with Ayers? Yes or no.
2) Is Ayers an unrepentant terrorist? Yes or no.
Answer, please.
“But a President Obama can promote the need for them and promote investment in them and help it become known as a national priority.”
Nice explanation for what any politician could do. Yet Obama has done nothing of the sort during his time in the Senate, nor do most reasonable people expect him to support anything other than solar/wind when/if he gets there, cf. Joe “no clean coal” Biden, Nancy “We’ve got an Earth to save” Pelosi and Harry “Coal makes us sick” Reid.
I’m curious, though. What do you plug those cars into? A tree? A windmill?
An outlet, with power from all possible sources, one would prefer.
“An outlet, with power from all possible sources, one would prefer.”
Correct. But the question stands: who supports “All of the above?”
Hint: Not the O!.
Check the DOE stats yourself. Venezuela only produces 4 million total, much of it heavy unusable stuff, so it doesn’t count as 4 million. In fact not even OPEC counts it towards Venezuela’s quota. Out of Saudi’s 11 million/day, all except about 1 million go to Europe, Japan, India and China. Check the shipping routes and you’ll see why. If you’re looking for big oil imports to the US, Canada and Mexico are your new enemy terrorists. And while your at it, why not get the rest of your facts straight too.
But a President Obama can promote the need for them and promote investment in them and help it become known as a national priority.
Amy it is the Democrats acting on behalf of their special interest enviromental groups with the help of another dem special interest group Trail Lawyers which have stopped the development of new energy sources for over 30 years. They are the reason we don’t have the energy to begin with.
for the fact that sara palins great grand parents did not condem kkk some decades ago,for the immoral acts against thier own country,and her inability to answer or understand simple questions,also qualifys her as a member of kkk,she should be called a member of kkk.how the hell did she even got elected,she is not qualiffied to be my mom,talkless of vp.
http://www.nevadacleanenergy.com/go/wind-power/
You’ll be surprised by what the US Department of Energy has to say about wind energy.
Comment by evans joesephe on 10/5 @ 12:38 pm
Epic Fail.
Honestly, just when I thought trolls couldn’t get any dumber. 1440 takes the pie. Evans – please tell me you’re not a registered voter?
I swears, we’re doomed.
Yeah, why doesn’t the MSM ask Palin the hard questions about her relations to the KKK? Moron.
Check the DOE stats yourself.
I just linked to them, liebot.
The Dems refusal to drill costs us trillions.
“Estimates of known reserves have almost always been low and there is no reason to believe that things are any different now…Over twice as much oil has come out of Prudhoe Bay than was initially predicted. It would not be at all surprising if that result is repeated with offshore reserves, especially because Congress has prohibited even exploring the areas involved for years. At the current price of oil, we’re talking at least another $1.3 trillion in royalties.
This Wikipedia entry shows over two trillion barrels in estimated U.S. reserves. Again assuming that only 10% is recoverable, that’s another $3 trillion in potential royalties.
If you’re keeping score, we’re at about $6.1 trillion. That’s more than 60% of the current national debt of of $9.8 trillion  and I ignored any potential additional royalties from natural gas. I also haven’t considered potential oil from sands, oil and gas from North Dakota’s Bakken Formation, oil and gas from the Great Lakes, or oil and gas from other inevitable future discoveries.â€Â
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/uncle-sams-multi-trillion-dollar-oil-lockup/2/
talkless of vp.
Is Axelrod having to outsource now?
This one sounds like Dell customer support.
Evans isn’t qualiffied to comment on a blog, let alone vote.
And, I stop with the insults when the trolls stop being so stupid.
I know Jeff always wanted a wider audience, but if this is what such an audience looks like, I don’t think he could stand it. If every PW comment thread looked like this, the regulars would flee. Perhaps we should make people “try out” before they’re allowed to comment?
Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 12:40 pm
Look, building Wind Farms like Pickens is doing in Texas, and other offshore stuff is admirable, but. it. just. isn’t. enough. If you really want the green revolution O! promises, you need a segue of strong economic growth and reliable energy development so we don’t find ourselves up shits creek in 10 years with malfunctioning turbines and shuttered nuclear plants. Germany found that out the hard way when their turbines with 20 year guaranteed warantees started breaking down after <5 years.
Royf, If by “new energy sources” you mean drilling for oil unaccompanied by alternate means of finding fuel, it’s no wonder the Trail Lawyers would work to prevent that for 30 years. It’s high time for the nation to put its collective mind and resources into wind, solar, geothermal, and clean fossil fuel/nuclear technologies, and yes, also drill at home.
Amy, what do you think of Evan’s argument about Sarah? How about all those who called her a bimbo and cunt further upthread?
“Royf, If by “new energy sources†you mean drilling for oil unaccompanied by alternate means of finding fuel, it’s no wonder the Trail Lawyers would work to prevent that for 30 years. It’s high time for the nation to put its collective mind and resources into wind, solar, geothermal, and clean fossil fuel/nuclear technologies, and yes, also drill at home.”
So we find ourselves at McCain’s position. How quaint.
you need a segue of strong economic growth and reliable energy development so we don’t find ourselves up shits creek in 10 years with malfunctioning turbines and shuttered nuclear plants
You’re absolutely right about the above comment. I’d like to know- do you think that large-scale production of green energy infrastructures couldn’t strengthen our economy and security (even in the same breath)– or even do harm? If so, how?
Well Amy if we had a viable and cost effective way of producing renewable energy today, It would still take a generation to cycle through all the vehicles and machinery that requires oil. That doesn’t even talk into account all the common products such as plastic and thousands of other chemicals and medicines that require oil, for which no suitable substitute is known.
There is no way to get there from here without a real push to drill now and everywhere there is oil available. That is going to happen one way or the other, it really is just a choice between drilling here and getting the revenue, industry and jobs or buying it from other countries.
In my opinion that is a simple decision, for Obama not so much.
McCain was one of the Cheating Keating Five.
Read more and get the word out that McCain lacks sufficient judgment.
McCain has been affiliated with banking scandals.
Google KEATING FIVE MCCAIN
How did they forget “idiot”?
My website bot is more intelligent.
At least it can remember what question was just asked and actually respond to it.
True, I wrote the words, just as LittleMe’s handlers did for her.
Wink! Wink!
Carin–
I think Evan was saying that if we’re going to dig into Obama’s past to come up with a spurious connection between him and a terrorist in order to discredit his patriotism, we should use the same flawed tactics against Palin, out of fairness to both candidates. I don’t think it’s right to use that tactic against either candidate, actually. Calling Palin a cunt, bimbo, etc. is no better than calling Obama by whatever foul epithet one can come up with.
Seems odd that somebody whose last name is palin would accuse anyone of palin’.
Look, it’d be great if we could be all green and have no emissions and such, opinions on global warming notwithstanding, but the rush to greenify the country could have terrible consequences, i.e. we chose the solution that makes us feel good rather than the one that works.
As a nation we need:
– Transmission lines [hamstrung by the far enviro-left, bogus endangered species claims, etc]
– More raw power [nothing comes close to nuclear, but again we haven’t constructed a new plant since god knows when]
– More oil, ASAP [sure, pollution from cars is bad, but who could imagine the air quality improvements from a catalytic converter; contrary to widespread belief, this will not take 10 years, cf. GWB lifts executive moratorium on OCS drilling, Oil $ drop by 17%, largest in 20 years]
In the short term, I’d love me some solar panels on my roof and a geothermal heater to relieve my energy costs. Great. But the desired green technology is too immature at this point to satisfy a growing nation, cf. my above post about California’s replacement of a Nuclear Plant with a solar plant, massive decrease in efficiency, brownouts, etc. Satisfy the bottom line, keep oil prices low and let industry thrive.
Amy, your scribblings are a great example of the way socialist progressives can put so many logical fallacies in the same sentence.
A lot of people can’t seem to understand just why Governor Palin upsets so many people, both within her party and without. Here’s a hint: She’s a Constitutional Originalist. Worse, she means it. Bring national socialists, the neo-traditional Republicans don’t like that a bit. Of course, the Democrats, being socialist-communists, absolutely hate it.
Now, to turn the farce into the sublime, the PTB within the traditional two party system cannot rationally articulate why they so dislike Governor Palin. Mostly because neither party actually, you know, believes in the Constitution of the United States of America. Actual liberty and freedom, as in the personal and individual sovereignty of an American citizen, are quite beyond their comprehension. Sadly, this is also quite beyond the comprehension of most American citizens….which brings us back to the educational system and Mr. Obama’s blatant support in supporting anti-freedom agendas within our educational system.
Obama did anti-redlining work for ACORN. ACORN is embroiled in multiple scandals including embezzlement and fictional voter registraions. ACORN pushed for the reduction of security measures that caused the failure of Fannie and Freddie after such O! advisors as Johnson, Gorelick and Raines walked away with tens of millions each for helping drive the GSEs into the ground. And it wasn’t 20 years ago, either. Total cost for the S&L bailout was about $3.4 billion. Peanuts, compared to this mess. And it was Congressional Republicans including McCain and even idiot President George Bush who called repeatedly for more oversight for the mortgage lenders, and who now claim that the “anything goes” mentality installed by Republicans caused the bubble.
Google it.
U cant when an argment whit ignerant peple
Doing the Desperation Tango
If you dug up that guy buried in Lincoln’s Tomb in Springfield, Illinois, brought him back to life and ran him for President, I still wouldn’t vote for a Republican after 8 years of George Bush.
How wonderful it would be if so many of you had access to information about what was discussed at this year’s National Clean Energy Summit. Oh wait, you do! Let me have the honor of sharing with you:
http://www.cleanenergysummit.org/video/video.html
Sarah’s criminal actions in Troopergate will surface next week. Then we’ll see some backpeddling. Might even be forced to withdraw. I’m sure LittleMe will be pretty happy about that. We might even see more than that little shit eating grin we always get.
“Might even be forced to withdraw”
Heh.
“Sarah’s criminal actions in Troopergate”
Double Heh.
Try again.
We knew this was coming. Seriously? “Palling around with terrorists!?” Obama was eight years old when Ayers engaged in what Obama has since called “detestable behavior.”
I want Obama to look McCain in the eye in the next debate and ask him two questions: 1) As someone who was a victim of these kinds of attacks in South Carolina in 2000, how can he possibly justify his running mate’s remarks…. 2) Don’t we have more imprtant things to talk about?
Shame on Palin. Shame on the McCain campaign. Shame on all the right wingers out there who are, absurdly, trying to spin this into Palin being accused of being a racist…. Let’s review: Her comment was “Obama is pallin’ around with terrorists.”
Hey. Like you guys always say, If you didn’t do nothin’, you don’t need a lawyer, never mind trying to fight them off and squash the investigations…”also”.
Industrial grade stupid. Check.
Dash. You passed.
Warren, what do you think of Ron Paul, out of curiosity?
Oh.My.God! It’s like a little league of lemmings with their cliff notes.
Obama was eight years old when Ayers engaged in what Obama has since called “detestable behavior.â€Â
You’re about 1400 posts and 50 IQ points late, “Rob”.
Least he has the IQ to spare, but you probably don’t understand why.
If you really want to keep up with cutting-edge advances in energy technology, might I recommend Brain Wang’s work at http://nextbigfuture.com/
That’s just an introduction of course. physorg.com also carries numerous articles and references to such work.
At this point, we must use all of the resources that are available to us. T.Boone Pickens’ plan addresses many of these issues. We don’t have the time to sit around arguing about it. Our technology, our society, runs on energy. If we do not use every resource available to us, including “Drill, baby, drill!” We face a Malthusian Collapse of world-wide civilization. T. Boone Pickens’ plan is an emergency, last ditch, effort to save America as you know it.
We must do something, and now.
Wind turbine technology has improved greatly over the last three years. It is a viable and proven technology. By itself, it will only provide 20% of our present needs, but it *can* provide that 20%-30% and do it more cheaply than coal-powered plants and more cost-effectively than nuclear. More coal and nuclear plants DO need to be built. Photovoltaic technology has improved to the point that it has become competitive with grid costs. New start-ups using the new photovoltaic technologies are bringing in billions in investments. Several of these companies have gone public. Piezoelectric systems, as well as thermoelectric recovery systems, are also in development for mass production. Geothermal is so cost-effective that in a home-based system it can reduce your home’s utility costs by 30%-60%. Natural gas and hydrogen technologies are also advancing in both cost-effectiveness and competitive pricing. These technologies must be pursued aggressively. It is no longer a matter of ‘either, or…’ We pursue these technologies aggressively or life as we know it is over. It is that simple.
Shut up, thor.
Got skunked at fishing, I see.
Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 1:20 pm #
Warren, what do you think of Ron Paul, out of curiosity?
His foreign policy isn’t pragmatic in the real world. We’re are so entangled now that it would take a generation to dis-entangle. His domestic policy is absolutely based upon The Constitutional. He’s not nuts. Some of his followers? Ayeah. They’re crazy as hell, but without his knowledge base.
I think a green-energy future for the US is a real possibility and a necessity, and I’d be going in direct opposition to my conscience if I didn’t vote for the candidate I believed would be the strongest proponent of getting that ball rolling.
“I think a green-energy future for the US is a real possibility and a necessity, and I’d be going in direct opposition to my conscience if I didn’t vote for the candidate I believed would be the strongest proponent of getting that ball rolling.”
No offense Amy, but McCain is a far better choice in that regard, cf. the idea of a strong economy to segue into the greenification. Obama will simply not get our oil, actually wants oil prices high. Anybody who thinks like that shouldn’t be president.
My greatest problem with McCain’s energy policy is that it is primarily based upon nuclear above other technologies. His plan calls for an expenditure of 45 billion dollars on nuclear plants. The problem there is that the last government supervised nuclear plant to be built nearly quintupled in costs above original projections. There are better, less expensive and more cost-efficient technologies to build such plants these days. (See Brian Wang’s research.) Pebble bed reactors being just one of them.
Warren, thanks for the links on energy technology. I just bookmarked them. I’m in agreement with much of what you said in #1476.
I think it’s really a shame Ron Paul isn’t on the national ticket. He would have had the votes from my household, including mine. We disagree about Ron Paul’s foreign policy, but I find him admirable as a Constitutionalist and for wanting to put this country truly first.
Comment by DPA on 10/5 @ 11:40 am #
Its sad when you have to go to Saturday Night Live or Comedy Central to get a real perspective of these elections. They’re the only ones presenting anything near the truth about these trashmouth Republican tactics.
Good morning…err, day folks.
I’m only at 1379 right now, catching up, but I came across the above.
Invoking SNL to make a point about republican dishonorable tactics?!
Anyway, my irony meter exploded, anyone got a spare?
Comment by lee on 10/5 @ 1:52 pm #
“Anyway, my irony meter exploded, anyone got a spare?”
Nope. Sorry. I’m still busy replacing my absurdity matrix.
My Moe Howard sensorium is still operational, so that’s a good thing…
Do they have solar powered irony meters now?
What did I miss?
Who dumped the ‘tard farm into this thread?
Whew, in all that, there were two, maybe three people with a sincere desire to debate.
Amy is one (hi Amy).
It’s hard to remember sometimes, in a vigorous round of whack-a-troll, but there are those who are worthy of debate, and shouldn’t be treated like the scores of sheep shitting all over the property.
Amy, I noticed you can hold your own in this bunch, I hope you stick around. I guarantee if you stay intellectually honest you will be treated with respect, though probably not gently.
Oh, and you’re full of crap! =)
“Comment by an observer on 10/5 @ 8:31 am #
I’m an independent. After reviewing the demeanor, logic, evidence, knowledgeability, and veracity quotients of the GOP-ers here, as well as taking the measure of their compatriots in other places, I am not impressed.”
Oh, come onnnn.
Don’t you know it’s “I’m a life-long consrvative Christian Republican, but…”
think Evan was saying that if we’re going to dig into Obama’s past to come up with a spurious connection between him and a terrorist in order to discredit his patriotism, we should use the same flawed tactics against Palin, out of fairness to both candidates. I don’t think it’s right to use that tactic against either candidate, actually. Calling Palin a cunt, bimbo, etc. is no better than calling Obama by whatever foul epithet one can come up with.
But *that* is not what is being done. Many believe Obama has a radical agenda and his POLITICAL connection with Ayers supports this point. Whether or not he knew and worked with (in one capacity or another) isn’t spurious connection. It either happened or it didn’t.
Making stuff up and throwing them at Palin isn’t the same thing.
“Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 1:35 pm #
I think a green-energy future for the US is a real possibility and a necessity,”
You believe in magic, don’t you?
GOP has irony meters? Whatever for?
TALK IS CHEAP … CHECK OBAMA’S RECORD !!!
A candidate’s track record, and associations are always a legitimate issue when running for President. Let’s take a look at the qualifications, judgement, and experience of Obama, who is running for President. Obama had 25 years to fulfill the potential he displayed as a rising start at Harvard Law School … and, how did he live up to that potential? … He chose to align himself with anti-American racist, Jeremiah Wright for TWENTY YEARS … along with Ferrahkan, Rezko, Ayers, and others. As a community organizer, he registered thousands of voters in Chicago … then, when he ran for the state legislature, he took away their votes, by disqualifying his opponent (a black woman) on a technicality. As a U.S. Senator, he voted present 160 times … he never called a meeting on the Afghanistan committee he chaired (although he NOW says we must shift all our military from Iraq to Afghanistan). He claimed Foreign Policy experience from a 9 day whirlwind photo op to 6 countries. And, he spent almost half of his tenure neglecting his responsibilities as a U.S. Senator, so he could run for President. Senator McCain served America honorably for 22 years in the military. He proved his love for America, as well as his honor, integrity and character, by refusing early release as a P.O.W., even while being tortured. He served America as a ‘contributing’ U.S. Senator, working across the aisle, for 20 years. If Obama’s Twentyfive year track record shows he lacks judgement, and can’t be trusted, who cares what he says about Health Care and the Economy! What Obama never learned is Character. He simply can’t be trusted … ask Jeremiah Wright, a friend of 20 years, who Obama betrayed for personal ambition … and, you Obama supporters really think he won’t betray you If he gets elected??? If he gets elected, you Obama supporters will be facing a HUGE disillusionment !!!
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Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/5 @ 2:54 pm #
“Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 1:35 pm #
I think a green-energy future for the US is a real possibility and a necessity,â€Â
You believe in magic, don’t you?
I think Amys problem is she doesn’t fully appreciate the consequences of a “possibility” unrealized, after putting all your eggs in that basket.
When all the lights go out, and transportation is at a standstill, America will be a very dangerous place. Hungry people with nothing behave in a primitive way.
I know for me, I will join other like-minded, well armed individuals that will keep the peace in my neighborhood. I’m thinking Texas.
I think Amy also doesn’t understand that “we” are for new (and improved) sources of energy. We are opposed to socialist and punitive policies aimed at achieving that end, but I’m all for renewable energy.
I “don’t understand” how it is that GOPers have become so very good at parroting anything their handlers say, but then again if I couldn’t think for myself, I suppose I would have no alternative.
Lee, not Texas. Think Iraq. They’ll even have a “Republican Guard” you can join and continue the fun for the next 100 years.
Amy doesn’t seem to understand that most opposition to any new source of energy (wind, solar, hydro, nukes, drilling, and so on) comes from supporters of the candidate she supports. If she can get them to change their tune (Sen. Kennedy?) we’ll have a better chance of developing more of these energy sources.
Thanks for the excellent tip DPA, but I’m too old for that joining the military option.
Plus, I have relatives in Texas, and man do they have the firepower! It’s enough to make someone in California dribble down his leg a little, just imagining it.
But not to worry, my man. I’m hoping many of those that trained the Republican Guard will be in the neighborhood.
Well, if no one else wants 1500, I’ll take it.
No I won’t worry. Sounds like you’re going to fit in well no matter which one you chose. They both have their own versions of the Republican Guards, mostly carpetbaggers and robber barons, like the Decider’s family, and those that got run off from the north back when Regan reduced taxes and then ran up deficit #1.
Wait. There was no deficit run up before Reagan? The first deficit increase?
Are you sure about that?
Anyway, thanks for saying I would fit in with American military men, that’s a huge honor. If only you weren’t an anonymous punk of course, but still. I’m touched.
Filed under “IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE”. Care to guess what Zimbabwe looked like a scant 15 years ago? How about 8 years ago?
“Comment by Amy on 10/5 @ 1:35 pm #
I think a green-energy future for the US is a real possibility and a necessity,â€Â
You believe in magic, don’t you?
And like most of this thread’s visitors, believe also in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny. It is pretty easy to see why they worship Obama.
Ah, Major John Instapic!
We seem to have lost our direct connection to those patriot graves. We no longer know them as Lincoln and his contemporaries could. It strikes a terrible loss. Our loss.
SBP, who the fuck made YOU God?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/5 @ 12:11 pm #
“Obama associated with Ayers. Fact. Do you deny it?”
“Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Fact. Do you deny it?”
“If you persist in your denial, what does it say about you? And why should we bother engaging with you any further?”
PALIN associated with MCCAIN. Fact. Do YOU deny it?”
MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY et al are unrepentant terrorists. Fact. Do YOU deny it?
If you persist in YOUR denial, what does it say about YOU? And why should we bother engaging with YOU any further?
Not at all. That would be silly and the odds of the media trying to sell it to you anyway are very slim.
Yes, I deny that. But if you could find them admitting it and talking about how they wish they had killed more people, I’m willing to reconsider.
It’s like a goat ate a bunch of stupid, then exploded all over my comments.
SBP, who the fuck made YOU God?
I killed my father, the Titan Kronos, and cut open his stomach, thus freeing all of my siblings.
You?
Lizz’n ups boy! You got less of a life than da slow movin’ jizz cumza drippin’s down da crack of’m Moscow crack whores!
WTF are you fag-boners still hard about? Still trying to peddle that aging Hooters waitress as a Veep?
Good luck, schmucks.
Hey, gullaboy, Obama lives down the street from Ayers, served on some boards with him, knows him, so motherfuckin’ what, retard? William Ayers is someone, you’re not. I’d shake William Ayers hand and then slap you to your knees with it. Got it, Mr. Punk Ass Nobody.
William Ayers! Fifteen books! You? Show me one chapter, gullaboy!
Euro falls to 13 month low.
Heh.
Maybe you ought to buy some of dim Euros, rump Pirate, oh yeah, forgot, being broke ass and stupid means you ain’t got the wherewithal.
crap, I just woke RTO up. :D
and he’s in a different room…
Teh pile of stoopud, it is ENORMOUS…
Hysterical blindness.
Oh, sorry – that’s sexist these days, isn’t it?
1513 Euro falls to 13 month lows.
Because American companies with Euro ops are pulling anything cash back to US to CYA.
DOW falls to 4 year lows.
The future of the US is either Green or Black, maybe both!
Baracky is giddy with joy, but he’s way wrong if he thinks we all want to be socialist and third worldy. Government isn’t really where you want to look to make things more better.
Here’s something Palin can talk about.
http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
Thank you, ra. your check is in the mail.
OBAMA HANGS OUT WITH TERRORISTS. REALLY?…
McCain and his camp are steering towards a risky, dirty direction by accusing Obama of “Palling around with Terrorists” and calling him a liar.
After supporting the $700 Billion Bailout for Wall Street, McCain has nowhere else to …..
ACCEPTING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ASSOCIATES OF KNOWN TERRORISTS?
The Ayers-Weber-McCain connection. Truth? Guilt by Association? We report. YOU Decide!
Arnold R. “Arnie” Weber is a Chicago Annenberg Board Member and Chicago “insider”. He was a part of the Nixon White House. Arnie Weber has held other Washington “insider” jobs too. He is a LONGTIME REPUBLICAN DONOR. But get this: Arnie Weber was a BOARD MEMBER of the infamous **CHICAGO ANNNENBERG CHALLENGE** organization, which was founded by known “TERRORIST” Bill Ayers!
Sarah Palin was using “guilt by association”. This, however, is a two way street but Gov. Palin may not understand this.
NEW INFORMATION SHOWS THAT JOHN MCCAIN HAS ACCEPTED “TAINTED” CAMPAIGN MONEY FROM ARNIE WEBER, AN ASSOCIATE OF BILL AYERS.
Arnie Weber has given the maximum legal amount of $1,500 to the McCain campaign in 2008. He probably would have given more if allowed by law. In 2008, Arnie Weber made two separate donations of $1,000 and $500 to McCain’s presidential campaign run by EX-LOBBYIST AND WASHINGTON INSIDER RICK DAVIS.
I demand that Senator McCain denounce this man, Arnie Weber, and his associations to “terrorists” (as defined by his vice-president, Sarah Palin). I call on Senator McCain to reject these tainted donations. John McCain should then investigate how such a thing could possibly happen inside HIS OWN CAMPAIGN before seeking to cast stones at Senator Obama. McCain’s campaign CEO, RICK DAVIS, needs to explain to the AMERICAN VOTERS his reasons for accepting this dirty money. Are they really that desperate to win this election? Doesn’t John McCain still believe in the honor that he felt when defending this country against the enemy in Vietnam where he served as a prisoner of war for years?
THE “LIBERAL MEDIA” SHOULD ASK JOHN MCCAIN WHY HE ACCEPTED THIS TAINTED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THIS “TERRORIST” ASSOCIATE. Incredible as it may sound, Arnie Weber doesn’t even DENY that he ASSOCIATED FOR YEARS with a “KNOWN TERRORIST”.
This is probably because he hasn’t been asked.
Now for the reality check: It turns out that these types of “facts” are simply BASELESS SMEAR ATTACKS WITH NO MERIT! Yes. It is true. Attacks like this are meant to distract the uninformed voters near the end of an election. We don’t hear about them very often because most candidates have too much integrity to run them. They know that winning an election based on lies is unacceptable. Besides, people want to talk about REAL issues affecting REAL lives, not play a game of “6 degrees of Kevin Bacon”.
Random associations are EASY to find. For instance, it turns out that you can trace Obama’s FAMILY TREE to both George W. Bush (10th cousins once removed) and Dick Cheney (eighth cousins). Yep! They are legally RELATIVES. This is yet another useless “fact” for Trivial Pursuit lovers, but it is not worthy of any media time in this national election for the greatest country on God’s green earth.
If you want some more guilt by association, here is something to find out for yourself. Who said this? Who supports this guy and his political party? “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.”
Guilt by association is an attack on voters and on the electoral process. Voters need to learn about the issues. Governor Palin should apologize for raising this STUPID guilt by association tactic against Senator Obama. And if she REALLY believes what she is saying, she REALLY should demand that they return “Arnie” Weber’s campaign donations. Seriously. To do anything short of that would be blatant hypocrisy.
“Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.” [John McCain – The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer – 2/21/2000]
Hi all, sorry I’ve run out of time to debate. It’s back to work for me.
Thanks Lee (and any others) for the recognition of my sincerity.
If I’m not back before the election, just know there are no hard feelings here, just too much else to do over here.
Cheers!
We wish Senator Obama good luck. We are sure that in tonight’s debate against McCain he will demonstrate again his intellectual strength over the senile, tired, narrow minded opponent McCain, who should look after his grand children instead of harassing the world with his shabby polemics, demagogy and empty phraseology. Neither he nor his running mate Palin live by their own professed ethos. McCain is not qualified to be president, and in picking Palin he shows that he has little respect for the presidency.
Most of the European people are convinced that McCain’s only aim is to continue Bush’s destructive politics which has ruined the US economy and caused inconceivable sufferings in many countries.
It would be a pity if American people voted for a politics of destruction instead of progress and high human endeavour – such as PEACE. It would be a pity if American people opted for stagnation, economic ruin and backwardness.
Numerous polls conducted in many European countries revealed a majority of almost 90% who appreciates and supports Obama’s politics. The rest of the world needs to regain confidence in a great country such as the US.
We hope that God will deliver America from the evil and the harm that Bush has inflicted not only upon America but also upon other countries.
God doesn’t listen to Europeans no more I don’t think. He thinks y’all are cheesey.
Numerous polls conducted in many European countries revealed a majority of almost 90% who appreciates and supports Obama’s politics.
Good. They can have him. And all you idiots who want the US to be more like Europe, you can follow him. You can be the new Turks. As for me, I have been to Europe, it is a nice place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there. Not at all.
God doesn’t listen to Europeans no more
There’s a new Sheriff in town.
I think you mean, “There’s a new Sharif in town.”
Your welcome.
South: two clubs
Thank you. Of course I meant, “You’re bid.”
uh, Omar dude, west passed, it’s your bid.
west passed
Indeed.
B Moe
You should stop insulting people who do not share your narrow minded views. That’s typical for you warriors. If you are out of logical arguments you just insult your opponents. How primitive! We can exchange some wise thoughts on 5th November 2008. I will then tell you exactly who the idiots are.
The biggest one exposed himself yersterday to the whole world. He was ridiculous (no full-torso, looked like a pinquin, worst than Quasimode).
US needs a president, not a clown. As US vice president should be a highly moral personality not a ridiculous, unqualified hunting hockey-mom. A personality to be taken seriously by other high ranking politicians.
Senator Obama is a real gentleman, McCanine was not even able to accomplish his studies. Calling Senator Obama “that one” clearly demonstrated his low educational level.
Senator Obama will win.
Good. They can have him. And all you idiots who want the US to be more like Europe, you can follow him. You can be the new Turks. As for me, I have been to Europe, it is a nice place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there. Not at all.
like that plagiarist and liar Joe Biden. um. yeah.
Europe is vitally important. They bake nice breads I think.
Teamed up with God and Alinsky, Victoria cannot lose, as she has all the bases covered, BMoe.
Veronica, my bad, please pardon.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 9:58 am #
Europe is vitally important. They bake nice breads I think.
Yes, you are right. We are really proud that our breads are better than yours. Bread baking is not our only strength. We can also use our brains instead of our weapons.
Instead of conducting here stupid polemics you should suply your political proteges with new ideas of how to save your ruined economy.
um, okay, if that’s the way you want to put it. I would have gone with “we don’t have enough brains to use our weapons”, but whatevs. we’ll be here to save your ass next time around, I suppose.
B Moe
You should stop insulting people who do not share your narrow minded views. That’s typical for you warriors. If you are out of logical arguments you just insult your opponents. How primitive!
Followed immediately by this:
The biggest one exposed himself yersterday to the whole world. He was ridiculous (no full-torso, looked like a pinquin, worst than Quasimode).
US needs a president, not a clown. As US vice president should be a highly moral personality not a ridiculous, unqualified hunting hockey-mom.
It wasn’t an insult, dear, it was a fact.
Is it just me, or did #1526 sound creepily like Tokyo Rose With a hangover?
I like Vicoria’s appeal to better manners followed by ad hominem and name-calling.
Illustrative of the European sensibility and integrity, I think.
This is Berlin Betty, I think.
Munich Mathilde?
We could socialize medicine and unionize everybody and raise taxes and start a war on carbon dioxide molecules and you’d still bitch. It’s what you do.
It’s what you do.
You also spend a lot of time waiting for your clothes to dry and your water to get hot.
If you are a European in Europe, I mean. And you don’t get ice in your liquor drinks. Civilized my ass.
Hamburg Humbug
Glenda Jackson to Walter mathau in “Hopscotch”:
“You haven’t even got ice in your drink. How can you be American without ice in your drink.”
Baden Baden Brunhilde
The reason that Europeans are always convinced that the United States wants to take over the world is that’s exactly what they’ve always tried to do, every time they thought they could get away with it. Every time.
The fact that most of us are here because our ancestors wanted nothing to do with their backward, barbaric continent never crosses their mind.
How many of their pitiful farcical human rightsy asses still bow to some inbred royal retard? Lots.
And heads explode every time we’ve walked away.
Heck, NATO was a European invention in order to keep us IN Europe.
Ingolstadt Ilse
But I’m the King of Spain!
How do you say douche in Spanish?
How many more wish they still could.
Wouldn’t a real German spell her name “Veronika”?
Oh dear
He was ridiculous (no full-torso, looked like a pinquin, worst than Quasimode).
Another moral moron. What is it with leftists that look at a man who had almost every bone in his body broken by design by his captors and see the deformity as DISQUALIFYING and SHAMEFUL.
Stutgart Stella
I bet Veronica is angry that Trig Palin lives.
I’d trade Trig for David Brooks in a second.
Dresden Drusilla
You know what I mean.
Trig and McCain would both qualify as untermenschen in VeroniKKKa’s Germany, I think.
Frankfurt Fannie
Trig already displays the leadership traits to be among the next generation of Republican Alaskan politicians.
I know Fannie doesn’t sound German, But Veronica does sound like a fannie.
He’s just a little baby.
Your right thor, she has that quality of pissing you off just by living.
Oops, he.
Well, at least Great Britain makes some damnfine weapons. They’re using the hell out of them in Afghanistan and Iraq. And those Germans do make some purty artillery.
It’s ‘Cuz they are a warlike nation Slart.
That was the main reason for Iraq, just to distract the Germans so they wouldn’t get bored and start slaughtering people haphazardly.
again.
Thanks for adding our comment to your post, very informative.