Allah and Charles at LGF have already debunked the early-out-of-the-gate attempts to cast VP candidate Sarah Palin as a “creationist” and an “enemy of science”* — Al Gore and his band of hokem-peddling Greenbots being the current champions of forcing junk-science into public school curricula — so the left liberal establishment and the mainstream press have now moved on to Palin’s alleged “ethics violations,” known by the shorthand, “Trooper Gate” (as well as on to more batshit crazy speculation, which is hardly worth dignifying; bizarre feminist doublethink; and of course, the predictable envirofascist wheezings).
Knowing full well that it is the appearance of impropriety, moreso oftentimes than minor improprieties themselves, that does the hard work of throwing a pall over the character of one of their political enemies (”how long now have we lived with the suggestion that Bush “lied us into war”?), Dems, and their allies in the press, have begun “digging into” the firing by Governor Palin of an appointee who claims he was shitcanned for his refusal to cave to pressure from the Governor’s Office to fire a trooper who happened also to Palin’s brother-in-law.
Thus far, however, the “digging” seems to be built around the purpose of finding — not the truth — but rather the impropriety. Which suggests to me that many in the press are looking for the kinds of “evidence” that fits a pre-determined narrative (”abuse of power” / “government corruption”) rather than entering into an investigation from the perspective of objective reporters.
Because, you know, anybody can gather facts. But as Jeff Jarvis once reminded us, the reporter’s job is to spoonfeed us the “lesson.” For our own good.
I remain unconvinced that such is the proper role of journalists — at least so long as they labor under the pretense that what they are offering is an objective set of facts laid out in such a way that all “sides” are given a fair hearing — which is why I am skeptical of early reports, dropped in the comments sections of a number of blogs and online media outlets, that “Trooper Gate” is the nail in the coffin of Governor Palin it is being presented as: firstly, because a VP candidate is usually quite thoroughly vetted (or at least, one would hope she’d be); and secondly, because of the rapidity with which the indictment and allegations were put on offer.
Luckily, for those of us not quite up to snuff on the alleged ethics violations of Alaskan governors (my immediate reaction, after a cursory look at the “evidence” for “abuse of power” I posted here), Flopping Aces has endeavored to head off attempts by the press to find what it is they are looking for by, shrewdly enough, presenting the facts of Trooper Gate in its complete context:
[...] Knowing the Palin-Monegan-Wooten investigation of abuse of power was their prime target, I’ve been spending time this AM researching the chain of events in hopes of beating the media to the political and biased distortions creating a new, and false “truth.” I took into consideration that journalists… and ardent supporters like Markg8 on Curt’s thread… will be quick to post what they believe is damning evidence without reading more material on the issue.
Unsurprisingly — well, to me at least — Markg8 is the same fellow who dropped the same link into my thread. Evidently, he spent much of yesterday cutting and pasting the same URL and indictment into the comment sections of whatever blogs he had in his RSS feeder. Now, I suppose it’s possible that markg8 is really just a citizen concerned about abuses of power, even those that are merely alleged, but having had previous experience with him, it is my belief that he hasn’t much changed, and is still nothing more than a useful idiot for the “progressives” who rely on his kind of dronish obedience in disseminating allegations (remember, the appearance of impropriety is the goal — recall, in addition to Joe Wilson’s op-ed, the “missing weapons” story during the run-up to election 2004) to secure power by whatever tactic works.
In short, markg8 is Alinsky’s Chapstick.
But back to the actual facts of the Trooper Gate “scandal,” at least insofar as Flopping Aces presents them. Using a sourced timeline of events, Flopping Aces details how the complaints againt trooper Wooten preceded the appointment of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who has since been fired for what Palin insists were budget, recruiting and enforcement performance issues; how those complaints were directed to Wooten’s superior, who would have been a more likely candidate for “pressuring” and abuse of power, should the goal have been to have Wooten fired; who, precisely, the source is of complaints against Palin (and his political ax to grind; and the connections between the Dem-endorsed special prosecutor and the “victim” — an appointee Governor Palin was within her rights to fire.
And so on. As they say, read the whole thing.
What is conspicuously absent from the news reports I’ve thus far read on Trooper Gate is the backstory of domestic violence complaints against Mike Wooten (also detailed on Flopping Aces).
Meaning that — as has become depressingly famliar — the press is deciding for us which details of the story are important and which are not, and in so doing, are attempting to frame for us the “lesson” we should learn from all this by working to control the contextual parameters.
Meanwhile, progressive “feminists” — who, were the party designations reversed, would be cheerleading any effort by Palin to intercede in a potentially dangerous and abusive situation, even were it not her own sister involved — are out in full force to call Sarah Palin an “anti-woman woman,” a “woman hater,” or an “anti-feminist”. Conveniently, disagreement with such an assessement marks one as an anti-feminist in what can only be described as a perfect jewel of circular reasoning — one that propels, say, wannabe metrosexual Jesse Taylor to the role of real feminist, and those like, eg., my wife, a women’s studies major who suggested to me last evening that feminism is about allowing the views and choices of all women as autonomous individuals to stand and fall on their own merit, as suffering from false consciousness (and, for marrying me, poor judgment). This attempt to define “feminism” to include only a particularly activist strain as “authentic” I’ve discussed at length — so while it is certainly nothing new, it is, nevertheless always surreal to bump up against it.
Up is down. Black is white. Benson is Hedges. Jesse Taylor is a simpering fop.
But progressives, alas, are — in the final analysis — progressives first. And when power is at stake, integrity becomes just another cog in the machinery of pragmatic rationalizations. Which is why we are now treated to the spectacle of Pandagon and Feministe tearing down a woman whose life choices have propelled her to a successful career in business and politics — all while maintaining a tight knit family — so that they can stand up for a candidate whose base took on Hillary Clinton with cries of “Bros Before Hos,” and who now are out in full misogynistic force tearing down Palin as a bimbo breeder hick.
The irony, could it be bottled, would be thick enough make a tapenade — though one so bitter that most self respecting breadsticks would avoid it like a fish avoids a bicycle…
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*I have previously argued for what I think is a proper and useful way to introduce ID into discussions of Darwinian evolution and the origin of species. As regular readers know, I believe ID to be junk-science, but, as a metaphysical position with respect to certain philosophical questions, I find it quite valid, and so quite useful for the purposes of pedagogy.
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Comment by Diana on 8/30 @ 10:42 am #
All this, while I’m fantasizing that thor will have subjugated hisself to that vasectomy before noon tomorrow.
Here’s HOPING!
Comment by fredras on 8/30 @ 10:44 am #
I made a comment about this on AOSHQ but after reading your analysis, Jeff, I realized what I was seeing was a way to re-frame the scandal as child abuse. I don’t know if that’s completely accurate but still for framing this troopergate, most people would understand tasering your own child as misbehaviour worthy of serious punishment. So if Sarah Palin is asked about troopergate, she could remark that even though she didn’t try to get the guy fired, since he tasered his 10 yr old stepson, maybe he should have been fired. I don’t see how this can be a big scandal if the MSM never asks Palin about it.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 10:47 am #
Domestic abuse? The lefties are untased.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 10:49 am #
You missed one, Jeff.
But . . . but . . . but SHE HATES TEH POLAR BEARS!
And the caribou.
Comment by cranky-d on 8/30 @ 10:50 am #
You can be sure the MSM will ask about this, though. However, one assumes Palin has a way to handle it already, or will by the time she makes her next big appearance.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 10:51 am #
What’s worse is the meme offered that her mix of work and family, and especially her actually choosing to give birth to a child she knew was handicapped, means she is an irresponsible mother. The speed with which they adopt an argument normally held to be anathema suggests a profound level of doublethink at work.
The delicate touch of eugenics is but the rabbit dropping atop the turd sundae.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 10:53 am #
I think I’ll go brush my teeth, now.
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Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 11:00 am #
This is almost as funny as watching the same people that tarred and feathered Geraldine Ferarro for suggesting that Obama would not have been propelled so fast in the Democrat party if he had not been black gleefully shout from the rooftops “she only got picked because she is teh womenz!!”
Comment by baldilocks on 8/30 @ 11:00 am #
And when power is at stake, integrity becomes just another cog in the machinery of pragmatic rationalizations. Which is why we are now treated to the site of Pandagon and Feministe tearing down a woman whose life choices have propelled her to a successful career in business and politics  all while maintaining a tight knit family  so that they can stand up for a candidate whose base took on Hillary Clinton with cries of “Bros Before Hos.â€Â
Glad you’re posting regularly again.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 11:01 am #
will be quick to post what they believe is damning evidence without reading more material on the issue.
Which is even more disgusting when one considers the dusty, untouched Annenberg papers.
Comment by Sweating Though Fog on 8/30 @ 11:09 am #
I hope the Democrats sieze on “Troopergate” as I recall Bill Clinton had his own Troopergate in Arkansas. And getting someone fired? Anybody remember the White House Travel Office?
I also find it amusing when Democrats suppose that Hillary will soon “set Palin straight” about who really speaks for women. They are somehow imagining that Hillary wants Obama to win! Hillary will be thrilled if Obama loses the election because Democrats don’t get enough women voters.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 11:11 am #
I recognize this as the “new” brand of politics Obama keeps talking about that doesn’t speak to us as Red states and Blue states, but as the United States.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 11:12 am #
- When the wheels finally spin wildly off the Lefts entire pretzel logic filled wagon, the spectacle will rival anything Heston ever did on film.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 11:13 am #
This is a weird analogy but it is stunning to see so many of the progressives support a documented wife beating thug, beer drinking in the patrol car child taserer yet vilified the Duke boys as thugs, guilty of rape instantly.
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 11:21 am #
Heh. Good point, Topsecretk9. STICK IT TO THE MAN, LEFTIES!
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 11:37 am #
- I can just imagine if some marginally brainwashed Progressive female, (one that hasn’t quite consumed a full tankard of the kool aide), has the temerity to suggest that “shouldb’t we be celebrating Palin as a strong capable women, and leave aside the fact shes a Republican? Doesn’t she represent exactly the strong independent spirit we say we’re all working for in womens equality? Doesn’t that make her a sister in our cause, someone we should look up to and honor?”.
- The ensuing bloodbath and scorn heaped upon the poor soul would remind you of a scene from that Monty Python flic where they had “mobile kidney transplant” crews, preforming the surgery right on the victims own kitchen table.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 11:40 am #
But not to worry. They have the machine that goes *ping*.
Comment by ThomasD on 8/30 @ 11:48 am #
[F]eminism is about allowing the views and choices of all women as autonomous individuals to stand and fall on their own merit…
Oh puhleeze, next thing you’ll be blathering on about judging people based upon the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin. Like that would ever happen in the land of Progg.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 11:54 am #
I like how the feminists and CNN assume the dad should have no part in helping with the baby. It’s all on her.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 12:01 pm #
Well, you know feets, that’s simply because all men are good for nothing more than clicking the remote and occasionally mowing the lawn.
Watch the kids? Preposterous.
Comment by psycho... on 8/30 @ 12:01 pm #
It only seems so if you’re comparing the pro-wifebeating-cop reflex to the anti-non-rapists reflex. The commonality isn’t there — nor the contrast, though you can score cheaply on it — but in the pro-bad-cop(s)-whose-badness-if-overlooked-may-influence-an-election-in-a-Democrat’s-favor…-ness.
It’s too early for me to write sensibly. You know what I mean.
And the most conspicuous early absence from the press’s Duke rapefest narrative was the backstory of the accuser’s other false rape claim(s), her un- and lightly punished repeat-felony criminality, her weird (seemingly “working”) relationship with the police and the prosecutor’s office, and theirs with the University — all of which remain clouded, because the narrative of all “sides” got shaped without them. They’re evocative fragments of footnotes, and that’s all they’ll ever be. Because telling us about them — or about Wooten — wouldn’t help.
Except that it might explain to us what happened. That’s not any reporter’s job.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 12:10 pm #
I’d like to call that more doublethink, but really it’s just good old-fashioned hypocrisy. And flailing about like a man in a windstorm for anything to grab hold of.
If the Messiah’s not the story anymore, then he’s not the Messiah.
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 12:14 pm #
Did lightning strike when you said that, Andrew? Or is Obama just going to take out your blasphemy on New Orleans and blame commercial fisheries for the destruction…?
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 12:17 pm #
…then he’s not the Messiah.
Could be he is just a very naughty boy.
Comment by JBean on 8/30 @ 12:19 pm #
I remain unconvinced that such is the proper role of journalists  at least so long as they labor under the pretense that what they are offering is an objective set of facts laid out in such a way that all “sides†are given a fair hearing
Ah, but Jeff, that’s so over. Listen to the mooing of Mark Brown of the Chicago Sun-Times this morning. The media are now campaign workers for The One. They can’t help themselves.
(blockquote>“Obama’s people had reacted initially to the news of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s candidacy for vice president by belittling her credentials….
For Pete’s sake, there’s no reason to do that. Let it happen on its own. Let the media do the dirty work.”
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 12:21 pm #
- If you’ve been fallowing the news cycle Jeff, McCain and Jindal are not about to let Nagin screw the goose on this one. the “chocolate salesman” has most probably been warned if he fucks up this time around he could be looking at a greybar vacation.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 12:22 pm #
Only the Messiah would deny his divinity!
And He would never sink NO again under the mud, Jeff. Chocolate city must thrive. Gustav (honky name if ever there was one) will roll into Texas and deal with them ofays and job-stealing Mexicans, you watch.
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 12:26 pm #
This totally enrages me about the feminists in this country, and that’s why I refuse to label myself “feminist” - even though I’m totally about to vote for Palin because she’s a kick-ass GIRL.
I say keep it up Dems. Especially the O! lovers who dare to call Palin a dumb breeder, a pageant bimbo, or a small town hick. Go ahead you losers. Watch every white bitch in America get so angry they humiliate you in November.
GAH. I get so pissed reading this shit.
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 12:38 pm #
check out this comment posted by a Hillary supporter at Hillaryis44.org:
Last night I posted on a board set up for women…where we usually discuss “womens issuesâ€Â. I mentioned the blatant misogyny I’d seen against Palin, and how angry it made me. I suggested we talk about standing up to this kind of thing as a group. To my complete dismay, the Obama supporters (women Obama supporters!) came back with stuff like this: “Well, it does concern me how she’ll take care of a down syndrome baby and run the country too.†and “I think the beauty queen jokes are pretty funny, if you ask me.†and “Did it ever occur to you that maybe she IS sucking McCains dick, and that’s why he picked her?â€Â
I was absolutely shocked. But I held my composure and simple said, “I’m NOT talking about whether you would or wouldn’t vote for Palin, people. This isn’t about Obama or any other candidate, this is about women taking a stand against misogyny, wherever it occurs.†What response did I get? “Well, sorry. If stuff like that helps to put Obama in office, I’m all for it. I HAVE to be, because my children have no future otherwise.â€Â
WTF?! I mean seriously…WTF?!”
DITTO. WTF.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 12:40 pm #
- Watching Jindal on FOX as he stands there describing in detail the evacuations going on in adbanvce of the storm, the 1700 NG toops in place in the city, his comments that he’d rather see people inconvienianced than harmed in any way, you can’t help contrasting that with the scene of Blanco’s first news conference:
- Reporter: “Isn’t this the responsibility of the Governors office to deal with this….?”
- Blanco: “Ummm….well the Governor would be the person of auth….Um….yes the Govenor whos….Umm and….that would be me….would be responsible of course as we see things develop…..”
- The difference is staggering.
Comment by Hadlowe on 8/30 @ 12:41 pm #
The funniest thing about this whole thing is…
The traditional model of corruption is that you’re supposed to use power to give cushy government positions to your no-good, wife-beating, child-abusing brother-in-law. She absolutely went about it the wrong way. Maybe that’s why the proggs are so mad.
Now what’s this about Rezko again?
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 12:46 pm #
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 12:38 pm #
The Vagina Warriors have no clothes.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 12:49 pm #
Ewwwwwwwwwww.
Comment by ushie on 8/30 @ 12:49 pm #
See, I didn’t leave feminism; it left me. It left me when its focus changed from fairness to privileging the Female, the (the dykist, vegan, yowling, man-hating, child-hating, reverse-racist) Goddess-inspired blah Gaiaist blah vagina-blessed blah FEMALE above all others.
Except for the Differently-Ethnic who, being so terribly unfit to make their own destinies, need the help of The Approved Female in getting whatever their goals are accomplished. Because, you see, The Female is a Nurturer. Except when it comes to children, men, or fake women who have the wrong beliefs.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 12:56 pm #
“Well, sorry. If stuff like that helps to put Obama in office, I’m all for it. I HAVE to be, because my children have no future otherwise.â€Â
- See this is the disconnect in the whole “Obama as messiah” troupe for me.
- What exactly threatens to deny her children a future undera Republican administration?
- the Public school system. Its already Liberalized by the teachers indoctrinated in Left-think, and the union. Ots practiculy become a propaganda arm of the DNC. What and how would that change under Obama.
- Health care? Is she going to be happy taking her children to a government run clinic where, when she can even manage to get an appointment, she’ll have to be happy with her kids being treated by an army of “assistant doctors and nurses in training”, hired on the basis of a lowest bid contract.
- The sole place I can think of where the GOP needs to do more is in family aide, and not in welfare, in true aide, through job laws, and family direct help. thats it. And that is doable, and Palin will be ultra sensitive to that.
- How again is Obama going to do that any better than Palin. so what exactly deny’s her childrens futures?
- Amazing.
- Well not really. The whole unspoken issue, the only issue for the Left, is protecting the sacred Roe vs Wade fantasy Constitutional law. The right to screw any man you want to, mostly guys you wouldn’t think of marrying, without consequences.
- A very sensible abortion law….consistant across all 50 states, could be crafted. Thats not what they want.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 12:58 pm #
The so called “leaders” of the feminist movement need to have a contest with the anti-war and civil rights movements to decide which one of the three has proggressed farther toward abandoning all of their founding principles in order to advance a leftist agenda. My vote would be on the civil rights movement but I am sure others would disagree.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 1:01 pm #
As a matter of historical interest, it ought to be noted that academic prizes for evidence of intelligent design, funded by, among others, the established Church of England, promoted the kind of scientific investigation that eventually led to the formulation of Evolutionary Theory.
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 1:04 pm #
That was then, Dan. We’ve “progressed.” Now, the only way to ensure “acceptable” advancements is to bracket out any raw material that won’t lead to a predetermined end of inquiry.
The ends are determined. Making the means look good is today’s agenda.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 1:06 pm #
-#38
- We warned Frankenstein not to mess with those bodies. Now they’ve created a Monster.
Comment by David on 8/30 @ 1:13 pm #
HOW DO YOU SPELL THE WORD “LIGHTWEIGHT” IN ESKIMO?
Comment by cranky-d on 8/30 @ 1:18 pm #
You spell it “David”
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 1:18 pm #
O-B-A-M-A ?
No?
Maybe C-H-A-U-V-A-N-I-S-T P-I-G ?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 1:23 pm #
Well by progg standards David if she can read off a teleprompter she is more than qualified.
Comment by TerryH on 8/30 @ 1:26 pm #
The irony, could it be bottled, would be thick enough make a tapenade  though one so bitter that most self respecting breadsticks would avoid it like a fish avoids a bicycle….
Indeed. Ms. Amanda- former spokesperson for John Edwards, a true champion of women as evidenced by his faith and support to his ailing wife- savagely denounces Sarah Palin and anyone who would vote for her as anti-feminist:
[...]And then you have the exceptionalists, the Ann Coulters of the world. They really do believe women are inferior, but think that they’re the exception to the rule. And they get away with being honorary men, because anti-feminist men need them to sell the anti-feminist cause. Being an exceptionalist anti-feminist woman is not a bad gig—you get paid well to parrot low opinions of women, and you get to feel superior to half the human race. Most exceptionalist anti-feminists tend to stick more to general conservatism, however.….
Edwards and Marcotte truly deserve each other. What continues to amaze me is how such a toxic combination could rise to such a high position of power within the Democratic Party.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 1:28 pm #
Funny that 2 days ago noone on the left knew who Palin was, now they all can’t hate her quick enough. Patience people I am sure links to her and Haliburton will arrive from Mount O!lympus shortly.
Comment by dicentra on 8/30 @ 1:33 pm #
I was nattering on about why ID is not good theology either, but it got too long for the comment section.
So it’s on my blog, link above.
And BTW, ST never showed up, either. I guess I hurt his feelings.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 1:35 pm #
Trooper gate, just like the US attorney firings by BOOOOOOOOOOSH!, is fundamentally a non-starter; in both cases the folks fired served at the pleasure of their representative executive…
But, as you say, one of the left’s preferred smear techniques is to proffer the appearance of impropriety. Much like in a Hitchcock film, where the appearance of violence is merely put forth and the viewers mind allowed to take in the visual denotations of the scene and their accompanying connotations, their mind then is given free reign to provide the most horrifying image that the viewer could possibly imagine; so it is with the left-ish MSM and their technique of the imputation of nefarious motives to a legitimate and trivial episode…
The nutroots won’t rest until they have been able to tar the refreshing Sarah Palin with some over-arching defect. After all, this is the only way that they can possibly discredit such an attractive VP pick; one that has greater experience, a researchable paper trail, a credible history of “post-partisanship”, and whose past is free from racists, radicals, and ne-er do wells-ALL THINGS THAT CAN’T BE SAID ABOUT O! …
By the way Jeff, your wife is spot on about the meaning of feminism. Gov. Palin’s selection prompted my wife and me to have a similar discussion. The kernel of true feminism lies in the personal freedom and individuality we ALL have under the US constitution. Where it definitely DOES NOT lie is in ideological lockstep to any one political outlook, party, or single issue!
*WHEW* Sorry for the Uber-long post. I prefer to keep it pithy, but sometimes I get on my soap-box. And, the nature of this discussion definitely takes me there…
Having said that, I still fear that this site is above my pay grade…
Comment by baldilocks on 8/30 @ 1:36 pm #
The Vagina Warriors have no clothes.
And it’s an ugly a sight as the stuff of nightmares.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 1:37 pm #
Soon to be deleted Pandagon comment:
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 1:37 pm #
Amynda’s just upset that the Republicans value women, while the Dems dispose of them like used tampons.
See: Amynda and John Edwards.
Comment by dicentra on 8/30 @ 1:40 pm #
Oh, THIS is good:
“To borrow from Ross Perot (not always a good idea), would you hire any of these people as a manager at your company?
“Palin you’d offer the job to right away, and then you’d sweat until she accepted it.
“McCain would seem like a decent choice, but wouldn’t make or break you either way.
“You’d wonder how Obama possibly thought he was qualified, and you’d leave him to be hired by some other company where they fall for people who say all the right things.
“And you’d be telling stories about Biden’s interview, and making jokes about it, for years.”
Me I like Palin because she is obviously not in politics for the Privileges, Perks, and Power, nor does she have her identity all wrapped up in her “political career.” She most likely gets her personal fulfillment from her family, so she’s not in politics to accrue glory unto herself.
She just wants to clean house. GO, GO, GO, GO!
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 1:42 pm #
Edwards, being on the right side, can’t be wrong. His intentions are admirable, his heart in the right place (though his penis, not so much at times).
Palin, conversely, being on the wrong side, can’t be right. Her deeds are meaningless. She is not of the elect.
Amanda, it turns out, is a Calvinist.
Comment by dicentra on 8/30 @ 1:43 pm #
OMG. I’m 100 days older than she is, older than a candidate for VPOTUS. That’s a first for me.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 1:51 pm #
Hell, I’m even older than Brett Favre.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 1:59 pm #
lol, Stepford Barbie is just gonna be Dan Quayle II
guess wat cudlips?
teaching, discussing, presenting creationism or ID in public schools is ILLEGAL
see Kitzmiller vs Dover Area School District
i thot u were a constitutionalist Jeff.
guess i was wrong ;)
Palin is wholly unsuitable to be a heartbeat away from a septenagerians presidency.
Her resume is vaporware.
Her academics undistinguished.
I have decided i dislike her.
She is not in my tribe……the top 10% of the bellcurve.
Her positions on abortion, on creationism in schools, and her “do” relly put me off.
All she needs is a prairie dress.
;)
But none of that really matters, does it?
She is wholly unsuited to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
McCain has either completed his slide into fullblown senile dementia or he is such an egomaniac that he is willin to gamble Palins worth to the repubs on a desperate attempt to secure the presidency.
In 2 senate terms Palin could have been a serious contender.
Now she will be tarred forever as a creationist and a fanatic right-to-lifer, and as an evangelical xian.
The media and the american public dont give do-overs.
If she ever wanted to run as a centrist, the ghosts of the next two will rise to haunt her.
tant pis
Comment by Patrick on 8/30 @ 1:59 pm #
I love the Palin choice, and have been pushing for her for a while now. Yesterday, I was actually energized to vote for McCain, to my surprise.
That said, this is funny. Oh, and sexist as hell.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 2:00 pm #
I am the same age as Barry. I even spent some youthful years living in a foreign country (Alberta).
That experience made me appreciate The US all the more however, I for sure don’t want the US to change into something resembling Canada.
Comment by Patrick on 8/30 @ 2:01 pm #
Jeebus, qf, but you are a real maroon.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:01 pm #
and she wasnt that good as a speaker.
she was visably nervous, said dumb things that didnt need to be said….like I was a PTA mom….
another breeder dimbo.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 2:01 pm #
On the disgusting Kos diary - if you read the comments it’s morphed into covering up for both teen daughter pregnancies - seriously.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:03 pm #
quelly, I’m sorry to say this, but I hope you’re not another breeder, dimbo.
Comment by Ginger Grant, movie star on 8/30 @ 2:04 pm #
I hate that little Mary-Annish tramp.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:06 pm #
krauthammer
ponnuru
right pablow
tell me how being a PTA Mom quals one to be CinC?
for a 72 yearold man, the VP better be filled by someone ready to serve.
Palin is simply not prepared.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 2:06 pm #
But none of that really matters, does it?
Holy shit! Was that a glimmer of self awareness? Could the NishBotSpameister2000 be approaching sentience? Would this qualify as AI?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 2:07 pm #
Nishi can you at least wait till the holiday weekend is over to hate her?
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:08 pm #
For a 47 year-old-man with no exec experience? Let him be CinC
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 2:08 pm #
” Two Teen Daughters Pregnant (0+ / 0-)
This suggest that there could more family entanglements other than troopergate? If there is a cover-up, this questions her intergrity. I have read that suspicion set in after looking at how thin she was just before giving birth and the whole story about leaving the conference in Dallas sounded. Moreover,if one of her daughters is pregnant and the other daughter already had a baby, what is her position on preventing teenage pregnancies? What are her proposals? What are her proposals for helping single mothers?
by bison on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:08:18 AM PDT”
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:09 pm #
Unless you mean that as the executive of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge he reformed the Chicago public schools to the point where he’d let his own precious daughters attend (with a mere budget of $100+ million bucks).
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 2:10 pm #
I like Krauthammer, but he is missing the point. This doesn’t undercut “Is he ready to lead”, this magnifies it.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:14 pm #
when i breed, i am most certainly not gonna in inflict a lifetime of genetic deformity and sufferin on a child so i can have a feelgood high over antique judeo-xian ethics and moral self-righteousness.
Having Trig was Palin’s decision, and she had every right to make it.
But i fervently object to her making a personal, intimate decision a political marker.
You see, there are two sides.
RL isn’t Forrest Gump.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:15 pm #
Mr. Pink, she is not in my tribe.
I have no obligation to like her.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 2:16 pm #
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 12:22 pm #
“Only the Messiah would deny his divinity!
And He would never sink NO again under the mud, Jeff. Chocolate city must thrive. Gustav (honky name if ever there was one) will roll into Texas and deal with them ofays and job-stealing Mexicans, you watch”
Oh no, you dee-uhnt….YES YOU DID !
He may send a pestilence against the ofays, BUT NOT THE JOB-STEALIN’ MEXICANS!!!
“Cuz, he leads among them in the polls currently…And, he made a deal with “La Raza”…
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:16 pm #
I’m also sorry to say that you’re an ugly person, qf. At least on the inside.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:17 pm #
Her academics undistinguished.
Says the illiterate.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 2:17 pm #
But i fervently object to her making a personal, intimate decision a political marker.
There goes another irony meter. Anybody know where I can get one that is protected against spikes?
Comment by Techie on 8/30 @ 2:18 pm #
sigh, can we ban Nishibot all over again?
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:18 pm #
I’ll bet O! doesn’t know how to mow his own fucking lawn.
Comment by dicentra on 8/30 @ 2:19 pm #
Nishi,
When I think about you breeding, I recall one Edina Monsoon, whose long-suffering daughter Saffron had to be the adult in the family while her self-absorbed, overgrown adolescent mother indulged all the latest trends.
Please consider sterilization. Then you don’t have to worry about birth control ever again. And we’ll all breathe a little better.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:19 pm #
Is that a deal killer? I don’t know. But I prefer guys who know how to mow their own fucking lawn.
Comment by Techie on 8/30 @ 2:19 pm #
Um, Nishi, Charles and Allah have already dealt with your “creationism!@11@!” bugaboo. Sorry, you’ll have to call back later.
Comment by Techie on 8/30 @ 2:21 pm #
Also, I don’t recommend responding to bots. Gets tedious.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 2:21 pm #
I thought Sarah P. looked way poised and confident. I remember thinking “This lady looks very poised and confident.” M’chelle is different where she has to come right out and, speaking slowly, say “We’re just like you. Me, I’m just like you.” It’s kind of a reach cause I eat crazy amounts of fruit, and I do it without whining about it. Also I’m just not that angry of a person.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:23 pm #
dan this isnt about O.
i think McCains choice of Palin given that he is SEVENTYTWO FREAKIN YEARS OLD and certainly might die or become incapacitated in office is ludicrous.
either that or he is now into fullblown senile dementia.
there are no standards by which Palin is qualled to be CinC and POTUS.
there are other women better qualified…….sheesh romney and pawlenty are better qualified.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 2:24 pm #
aye curumba
video of DNC Fowler and Congressman laughing and giddy excited that a hurricane will hit New Orleans
“proof god is on our side” “everything cool”
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/absentee/2008/aug/30/fowler-fouls-hurricane-is-gods-favor-to-dem/
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:24 pm #
His senile dementia is kicking Obama’s ass.
I did the drugs, and I’m still smarter than you, qf.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 2:24 pm #
“Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 12:58 pm #
The so called “leaders†of the feminist movement need to have a contest with the anti-war and civil rights movements to decide which one of the three has proggressed farther toward abandoning all of their founding principles in order to advance a leftist agenda. My vote would be on the civil rights movement but I am sure others would disagree.”
Yeah Pink,
They need to write a rule book for the identity card deck-kinda like the rules according to Hoyle…
That way no one would be surprised like they were this year; when the race card trumped the gender card in the Democratic primary!
I mean, ya gotta know the rules to play; and you gotta play to win!
I’m jussayin’
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:27 pm #
techie, it dont matter a whit.
its like O being a closet muslim.
it will never go away.
it is the internet culture and google.
Allah and Charles can publish a million denials.
but there will be ppl from this day forward that will always believe Palin is a godbot, a creationist, and an anti-abortion fanantic.
she can never be elected from this point on, if she should decide to run.
McCain threw her under the wheels of the straight talk express.
We will never have another evangelical as president.
Bush has ruined that for all time.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 2:27 pm #
“Mr. Pink, she is not in my tribe.
I have no obligation to like her.”
- So that reduces you to the bottom feeder edge of the bellcurve….why whine about it?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:29 pm #
i think McCains choice of Palin
No one cares what you think.
Sorry.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 2:29 pm #
i think McCains choice of Palin given that he is SEVENTYTWO FREAKIN YEARS OLD and certainly might die or become incapacitated in office
YO! You there, the genetics super genius. McCain’s mom is 96 and still spry and aware. Obama’s parents were both dead by 50. All caps hysteria don’t seem to be a particularly sciencey way to process this data.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:29 pm #
You think it was selfish of Palin to have a Down kid? That kid’s going to live in a loving family, and he’s going to love them. And I don’t have the same attitude to kids born into poverty with a long struggle in front of them. They deserve their lives, as wretched as they may seem to materialistic you. And they ought to given the chance to rise out of misery, if its within our power, as apparently it was in Iraq. They are not sub-human.
Comment by fredras on 8/30 @ 2:30 pm #
I hope someday the few remaining Democrats come to regret having sold their party’s soul to George Soros. Because that would be sweet.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:30 pm #
And there you go, demonstrating how important fact is to you, qf.
It doesn’t matter at all.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:31 pm #
dicentra, one question
do you actually know any young adults with Downs Syndrome?
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:32 pm #
I do. Five of them. You’re disgusting, qf.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:32 pm #
same question dan
one time, cudlips.
real life isnt Forrest Gump
Comment by Techie on 8/30 @ 2:33 pm #
Um, Bush isn’t an “evangelical”, nishibot.
He’s a United Methodist.
(violating my own diktat)
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:34 pm #
perhaps i am disgusting
but i am also right
bearing a trisomy 21 child is a PERSONAL decision
not political capital.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:34 pm #
You don’t know a thing. You think they’re sub-human, not of your tribe.
Your tribe is one thing and one thing only: Selfishness.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:35 pm #
I’m not into the eugenics thing, but might be willing to make an exception for NPD.
Downs kids are generally happy and loving.
NPD kids, not so much.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:35 pm #
You’re not right. Their experience is HUMAN experience.
Are they happy? Do they not have a right to exist?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 2:35 pm #
Sarah P actually takes care of her family, which is different than letting them live in a hut, stealing stuff to survive I think.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:35 pm #
perception is all
bush is popularily percieved as an evangelical, a theocon.
so his performance is forever glued to evangelicals.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:36 pm #
perception is all
Really.
So, what perception do we have of you, nishbot?
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:36 pm #
Perception is not all, fucktard. You consider yourself a scientist?
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:37 pm #
Well, fine. Perception is all. You are and always will be a horrible disgrace to humanity.
Fuck off.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:37 pm #
so wat feets?
mccain may pick off a few bitter PUMAs, but in reality Palin has only engerzized the theocon base, that he already had.
and a lot of ppl are questionin Mcccains judgement and his capacity to lead.
rightwing ppl like Krauthammer and Ponnuru.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 2:38 pm #
For Baracky when he wanted political capital he volunteered his own little girls’ wombses for abortions. That’s tacky I thought to myself when I heard that as I was trying to figure out how the hell you’re supposed to get the seeds out of a cactus fruit.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 2:38 pm #
As an aerospace engineer, I have no problem with the philisophical notion of ID.
I DON’T believe that it is a legitimate science; at least not like many of the other constructs we utilize to wrap our small minds around the nature of the reality that is our universe. While we can make up rules of logic and attempt to quantify chaos, like in mathematics; who can REALLY know the mind of God? We can work our way back to milliseconds before the mathematical singularity that is called the Big Bang. But, we can’t prove what put the necessary elements of that event here or how it was put in motion. Believers must take on faith the presence of a prime mover-His existence cannot be “calculated”…
God only knows, and he ain’t tellin’
But I’m thinkin’ that many kool-aid connoisseurs believe the O! knows…
Hey, that may be a whole new derisive turn of the phrase… O! knows [fill in the subject here]
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 2:39 pm #
nishi, you’re way overthinking it. Sarah P. is crazy likeable. Baracky and M’chelle are snotty and Biden is unctuous and McCain is old. Sarah P is way ahead of the game.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:39 pm #
O! doesn’t know Rezko, or Ayers, or Wright, though.
Not like he thought he did.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 2:40 pm #
“Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 1:04 pm #
That was then, Dan. We’ve “progressed.†Now, the only way to ensure “acceptable†advancements is to bracket out any raw material that won’t lead to a predetermined end of inquiry.
The ends are determined. Making the means look good is today’s agenda.”
Sad but true Jeff. Excellent way to express the ineffable…
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 2:41 pm #
- No, no it isn’t bottom feeder.
- And it also isn’t childish one liner glib throwaways that are more indicative of an asocial pathological mentality than any sort of intelligence.
- Living to be loathed, is in fact, a sure sign of low IQ and self esteem.
- Both characteristics of a bottom feeder nishit.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 2:41 pm #
Also Ponnuru is a gaymo ball of weirdness. He doesn’t count.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:41 pm #
mccain may pick off a few bitter PUMAs, but in reality Palin has only engerzized the theocon base
If McCain gets out the Republican vote, and manages to pick off even 5-10% of the Hillary voters (or persuade them to stay home), Obama will lose.
Badly.
Hint: 60% in a presidential election is considered a landslide victory.
Sorry, hunny.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:41 pm #
Fucking flounder.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 2:42 pm #
“Comment by David on 8/30 @ 1:13 pm #
HOW DO YOU SPELL THE WORD “LIGHTWEIGHT†IN ESKIMO?
I BELIEVE IT’S SPELLED D-A-V-I-D, asswipe
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:43 pm #
yessssss and u judeoxian godbots are such a BLESSING to humanity….
tyvm for triple digit population growth in Africa morons.
a halfcentury of feelgood mortality reduction programs with never a mention of birthcontrol will soon result in a half trillion ppl under the age of 18 with nothing to do and nothing to eat.
Gawd i fuckin hate how STUPID you are!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:45 pm #
triple digit population growth in Africa
You’re talking about the Muslim birth rate, yes?
Gawd i fuckin hate how STUPID you are!
Says the illiterate.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 2:45 pm #
And who’s to be in charge of this great genocidal purging, dumbass? You, with your great compassion? I tell you this out of love, however harsh it may be: you suck.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 2:46 pm #
“Gawd i fuckin hate how STUPID you are!”
- We’d like to say the same for you nishit, but you don’t have a high enough IQ to qualify for stupid.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 2:46 pm #
They can join Baracky’s Green Corps and change each other’s lightbulbs, nishi. Baracky says it’s valuable training for the future.
Comment by Techie on 8/30 @ 2:48 pm #
Sorry, Nishi, this thread isn’t about you.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 2:48 pm #
in reality Palin has only engerzized the theocon base, that he already had.
Even assuming this is valid, which I frankly think it is bullshit, another of the multitude of things of which you seem blissfully unaware is who your reaction to Palin is energizing. How many people, particularly women, in the middle are recoiling in horror and the hatred and inhumanity fools like yourself are unleashing. The mask has fallen and the creature behind it is not perceived as something desirable.
I suspect the real reason nishi dismisses ID is her navel doesn’t seem all that complicated.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 2:53 pm #
look dan
Am fear nach seall roimhe
Seallaidh e as a dheigh.
[He who will not look before him
Will look behind him.]
im looking forward.
conservatives look back.
your day is done, your policies failed.
ttyl
Comment by ushie on 8/30 @ 2:53 pm #
Jesus, queef, you are such a profoundly ignorant and uneducated person. How the hell do you make it through each day with such tight blinders on your small brain? It’s really too bad that I see no progress in your blighted and gray little, insignificant life. What a waste of perfectly good skin you are.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 2:53 pm #
“I suspect the real reason nishi dismisses ID is her navel doesn’t seem all that complicated.”
- I suspect its pure unbridled Fear Moe.
- Fear among the demented that they’ve chosen the wrong side (why are all those people laughing and pointing at her like shes some freak she wonders), and now its too late.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 2:55 pm #
your policies failed.
Sure. That’s why Saddam Hussein is still running Iraq, and why the Gore administration was followed by the Kerry administration.
Snicker.
Comment by ushie on 8/30 @ 2:57 pm #
And, as Dan said, I say the above with love, nishi. With love.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 3:04 pm #
Am fear nach seall roimhe
Seallaidh e as a dheigh.
[He who will not look before him
Will look behind him.]
im looking forward.
conservatives look back.
Here is a better one, nishfong, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
I watch were I am going, but I also keep an eye on the rear view mirror, and I remember and learn from my journey.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 3:05 pm #
McCain threw her under the wheels of the straight talk express.
Nishi claims to be a genius, but doesn’t even understand what that phrase means. McCain gave her the #2 slot, that isn’t throwing her under the bus. That is bringing her aboard the bus. Again, Nishi’s argument by assertion (I’m soooo smart) fails on it’s face.
Comment by Dan Collins on 8/30 @ 3:08 pm #
Life has a way of teaching humility, nish. Go live.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 3:12 pm #
“Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/30 @ 2:53 pm #
“- Fear among the demented that they’ve chosen the wrong side (why are all those people laughing and pointing at her like shes some freak she wonders), and now its too late.”
They should have all considered Pascal’s wager instead of O!’s wager…
O! knows mendaciousness!
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/30 @ 3:32 pm #
How many people, particularly women, in the middle are recoiling in horror and the hatred and inhumanity fools like yourself
This is the absolute ju-jitsu brilliance of the Palin candidacy. Outside the committed ranks of Dems, every comment about her Downs child vaguely echoes Jim Crowism. Every shout over her “inexperience” turns the spotlight on Obama. Every denigration of her femininity makes women question who are their real friends.
She’s rubber.
You’re glue.
Call her a whore
and the johnson’s in you.
Comment by Merovign on 8/30 @ 3:33 pm #
I just check back every so often to see if Nishit got bored and left.
Not yet.
Palin/McCain ‘08
P.S. Little-known fact: “Sarah Palin†is an adopted name. Her birth name is unknown, but her brother’s birth name was “Kal-El.â€Â
Comment by cranky-d on 8/30 @ 3:39 pm #
Oh yeah. Getting knocked down hard a few times will help you gain all sorts of perspective on what’s really important, as well as bring on the opportunity to gain some empathy.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 8/30 @ 3:44 pm #
Nah. You’ll do something more horrible than that. You’ll be the poor child’s mother.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 8/30 @ 3:52 pm #
Ya know, the left’s focus on Trig is a wonderful chance to connect them back to their progressive eugenics roots.
Comment by McGehee on 8/30 @ 3:56 pm #
@ #138: Huh-huh-huh. She said “when.”
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 3:57 pm #
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!
Oh, and nishi?
That was quoted in the first link in this post. The bolding is mine, so you can’t claim yet again it isn’t there.
So put away your legal link. It doesn’t belong.
If you want me to answer you, do your homework first. If you can’t bother to read, you should probably avoid the urge to pontificate.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 4:06 pm #
well shoot, can we discuss the Democrats belief that God created hurricane devastation to help them politicly?
Comment by Hadlowe on 8/30 @ 4:18 pm #
I guess it fits nicely with the increasing push to turn AGW into a religion.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 4:32 pm #
I guess it fits nicely with the increasing push to turn AGW into a religion.
Hey good point, and good argument that our children shouldn’t be indoctrinated by forced viewings of An Inconvenient Truth at school.
Comment by margaret snider on 8/30 @ 4:59 pm #
Palin is so right on, I, too, want to send $$$$$’s.
Comment by Jesse Taylor on 8/30 @ 5:00 pm #
Wow, you’re actually getting worse. I would not have bet that was possible.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 5:00 pm #
nishi, you be sure to drop back by on November 5th, k? I’m so looking forward to it.
This time in ‘04, I was nine kinds of anxious. Now, I’m utterly amused. Yay, schadenfreude!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/30 @ 5:01 pm #
wow, Jesse Taylor has no argument. no surprise there.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/30 @ 5:01 pm #
Also I’ve read the rules for radicals parts and stuff but I still don’t get the chapstick thing. I should probably learn this but it’s google elusive. This post is already #1 for Alinsky chapstick. I really don’t see anything jump right out at me helpful in the rest of the results either.
Comment by Aldo on 8/30 @ 5:15 pm #
#53 Jeff G. - Edwards, being on the right side, can’t be wrong. His intentions are admirable, his heart in the right place (though his penis, not so much at times).
Palin, conversely, being on the wrong side, can’t be right. Her deeds are meaningless. She is not of the elect.
Amanda, it turns out, is a Calvinist.
That should be its own post.
Comment by Aldo on 8/30 @ 5:17 pm #
lol, Stepford Barbie is just gonna be Dan Quayle II
That’s funny. That’s what I’ve been saying about Obama. Better to have the Quayle on the bottom of the ticket than on the top.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 5:19 pm #
wow, Jesse Taylor has no argument. no surprise there.
He also can’t write two sentences without lying. I am pretty sure that second one isn’t true at all.
Comment by marcus on 8/30 @ 5:51 pm #
re: Jesse Taylor
Wow, you’re actually getting worse. I would not have bet that was possible.
Funny. I was thinking the same thing about you and Pandagon.
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Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:00 pm #
so wat Jeff?
its the intertubes.
creationist is a sticky term
she will never wash it off.
the MSM wont let her.
And actually, i was referrin to the illegality of your proposition, for ID to be evaluated alongside evolution as an example of non-science.
It is simply unconstitutional to teach any sort of religion in public school.
Even as a counterexample.
besides….she is….err….not bright?
a stint as PTA mom and a BA in journalism from a third tier college simply doesnt qualify her to be one [very old] heatbeat away from the presidency.
I have figgered out why I dislike her so much, Aldo.
It is the hair, her “do”.
All she needs is a prairie dress and she’ll look just like those horrible sub-sapient FLDS breederbots that cannibalized their own children for their…….{sneer} religion.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 6:09 pm #
Shoot. I hoping Jesse would explain the nuance of John Edwards penis.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 6:10 pm #
It is simply unconstitutional to teach any sort of religion in public school.
Even as a counterexample.
Funny, could have sworn that the public universities where I did undergrad and grad school both had courses on religion (in fact, the graduate institution has a whole department for it).
Hey, aren’t you from Colorado?
You’re so full of shit that you don’t even know you’re full of shit, nishbot.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 6:10 pm #
besides….she is….err….not bright?
…
I have figgered out why I dislike her so much, Aldo.
It is the hair, her “doâ€Â.
You just can’t make this shit up. Nobody would believe it if you tried.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:10 pm #
altho the shoes were nice.
;)
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:14 pm #
spb, the decision in Kitzmiller vs Dover refers to a public highschool.
are u really that dumb?
In college ppl can chose to take a course or not.
the students dont have it forced on them ;)
Comment by poppa india on 8/30 @ 6:16 pm #
It’s illegal for a public school to support any religion’s beliefs. That’s different from teaching about any religion’s beliefs, especially if the subject comes up in a discussion other subjects. And Nishi, if you want a religion to sneer at, go over to the Pub and read about the Pakistani legislator supporting the murder of five women who wanted to make their own marriage choices. Save some spit for him.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 6:17 pm #
spb, the decision in Kitzmiller vs Dover refers to a public highschool.
Which had to do with a required course (which Palin opposes), not a spontaneous debate.
Moron.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 6:18 pm #
In college ppl can chose to take a course or not.
1) You said “public school”, not “high school”.
2) You didn’t say anything about the elective nature of the course. You said: “It is simply unconstitutional to teach any sort of religion in public school.” Which, of course, is a lie.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:19 pm #
i think O is handling this very gracefully….Bush is McCains real running mate.
his new commercial.
he doesnt need to attack Palin.
the press will.
lol
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:20 pm #
btw, the feminists loathe her.
no XX votes there.
normally i am anti-feminist…..i have to blame that awful hairdo i guess.
;)
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 6:21 pm #
GUYS!!!
I don’t have audio right now and I’m dying to know what’s in this video - is this for real???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78
Dems caught on tape chuckling over the hurricane??
Comment by poppa india on 8/30 @ 6:24 pm #
Wow Nish, back from Pakistan already? Just in time to drop the discussion of public schools. Guess you could see that wasn’t working out too well.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:25 pm #
cmon Jeff
answer my question
is Palin qualled to be one heartbeat away from the presidency of septugenarian?
is she?
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 6:25 pm #
nevermind - it just got posted at HA. Whoa.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 6:27 pm #
If any of you get sucked into the obvious Bullshit of #164, I’m going to lose respect for you.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 6:29 pm #
you know…i dont live in pakistan.
i live here.
i firmly believe McCain is an ego-maniac that is experiencing intermittent age-related mental incapacities.
i just dont want a PTA Mom/journalism major/half term governor one ancient heartbeat away from the presidency.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 6:30 pm #
That ‘Bush is his running mate’ bit will play well with the hopelessly stupid. Everyone else will find it insulting to their intelligence.
Thanks for the case study, O-bot.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 6:30 pm #
i firmly believe
No one cares what you believe.
i just dont want
No one cares what you want, either.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 6:34 pm #
My dad’s birthday is Tuesday. We are having a party for him Monday (#1 daughter the nurse off rotation that day… we just got back from helping her and her fiance move into a new home they bought) … Dad will be 80 years old. I would trust him running the country, right now, that the suit of mirrors Obama. Dad’s sharp, funny, analytical, golfs a couple of times a week, walks a mile or two each day, listens and follows all his doctor’s instructions vis a vis diet and exercise (Mom is his partner on that). He follows politics like no one I know, with details always at his fingertips.
He’s a vet (GI bill paid for 2 years at Woodbury University, CA, so dad took enough classes to finish his BA in business in 2 years), and a corporate advertising exec, and an owner of his own ad agency. Married 57 years.
Obama isn’t fit to hold my dad’s 9 iron. O is the distillation of wanting something so bad he thinks actually earning it is a sucker’s game when he can just go the route of quasi-mafia-style politicking in Chicago. It’s a variation on the “gangsta thug” stars of hip-hop, middle class brothers inventing street cred to gain instant, unearned success to support lavish lifestyles.
AGE - young or old - in itself is not a factor of character, though wisdom usually is tied to age. But some people never learn and some people refuse to learn.
The constant drumbeat of “McCain OLD” is bigotry most foul,
along with “Palin, a woman-hating woman” meme.
Palin has accomplished more in her short, FULLY EARNED, political career than Obama has done via the Chicago dirty-trick route. His is a fully tainted background, even more rotten upon examination given the strong armed tactics against anyone wanting to investigate.
But the true “digital brownshirts” of Kossies, Pandagons, Obamabots, et al, will use anything, real or imagined, to smear GOV Palin.
I hope these smears get national attention and NATIONAL coverage of their abject falsity. The blowback to the unholy denizens of the anti-human Left should be swift and severe.
Comment by geoffb on 8/30 @ 6:35 pm #
There was someone here a while back (datadave?, it could even have been nishi) talking about designing a computer program that would interact with comments.
quellcrist falconer may be that program in beta. It’s not passing the Turing test yet.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/30 @ 6:36 pm #
btw, the feminists loathe her.
that’s a feature, not a bug.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 6:37 pm #
nishisociopath
If I could, I’d rip your shriveled ovaries right out of you right now.
You are a ticking criminal timebomb. If I knew where you lived, I’d warn your neighbors.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 6:41 pm #
Sarah has been cracking skulls up there in AK, and doing it right out in the open. That’s why they love her and that’s why she rocks out loud.
I was going to have to hold my nose to vote for Maverick. Now, I’m gonna do it with a big toothy grin.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 6:45 pm #
Pablo
I was a “nose holder” too. I’ve hung up on RNC people trying to get a donation out of me.
I’ve already sent $50 to McCain and I plan on risking having a keyed car by putting a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on it.
Even in “blue” California.
FUCK the two talentless lawyers, pretenders to the President/VP positions. Every time O! opens his waffle hole and claims McCain/Palin is “more of the same” that is just projection.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 6:47 pm #
hey Nishisociopath … at what age did O!’s parents die? And O! still smokes.
O is at great a risk of illness/death than McCain.
By the time McCain decides one term is enough, Sarah Barracuda will have 4 years experience as VP. More than qualified to be elected first woman President of the USA.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 6:51 pm #
Wow Darleen, now here’s a thought.
If Hillary runs against Sarah in 2012, will the libs be forced to abandon identity politics?
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 6:52 pm #
1) My proposition was not to teach religion in a science class. It was to differentiate a metaphysical question from a scientific one — in the process, teaching science. If you are so frightened by philosophy that you are afraid to have it mentioned in the same breath as science, you don’t have much faith (heh) in your science.
And it is perfectly fine to teach, eg., the Bible as Lit.
2) I have answered your question. Repeatedly. What I wonder is, why are you troubled by someone with MORE executive experience being a “heartbeat away” from the Presidency than you are of someone with LESS being THE ACTUAL PRESIDENT?
Is it because mens is better scarier people to face down Putin? Or is it this specific man. If so, why? Are you envisioning, like, a scene from Eight Mile?
3)
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 6:53 pm #
I care to listen to what nishi cares to speak of.
An opinion ain’t worth two matchsticks if it’s nothing but a mirror to all the rest. I don’t care if you have a fever in your balls for nishi or you’re merely puffing warm air down toward your private parts. As long as the ringmaster says nishi may speak I strongly feel you should shut your well plumbed butthole.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 6:58 pm #
I strongly feel you should shut your well plumbed butthole.
Oooo, irony!
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 6:58 pm #
Done, Aldo.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 6:59 pm #
I like how the O! camp has gone from attacking Sarah, to walking that back to being afraid to even mention her name, all in 24 hours. That’s change you can belive in. BECAUSE OF THE JUDGMENT TO LEAD!!
I lurvs this election.
Comment by PC on 8/30 @ 6:59 pm #
It’s true that the Dems are calling Palin an idiot (Quayle) for no other reason than she’s a woman. She’s given absolutely no indication she’s clueless…and yet they are sure of it. It just says volumes about their hypocrisy. “We love women - except when they get uppity and think they can be president and not a Dem.”
(Ok. I’m officially channeling the “Hillary voters for McCain” website, but those womyns are at least right about all the misogynist crap being thrown around right now.)
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 7:04 pm #
Barack Obama is, obviously, a leader of men. Sarah Palin couldn’t lead a crowded Sunday school class.
Sarah Palin will be the right-wing’s final lie. The House, the Senate and soon enough the White House - gone!
What conclusions can you draw from that?
Comment by Civilis on 8/30 @ 7:06 pm #
If McCain dies in office, President Palin can always appoint a Vice President with some foreign policy experience. I mean, it’s not like Sen. Biden will be doing anything after January, and Palin / Biden would have more executive and foreign policy experience than the current Democratic ticket…
Comment by TerryH on 8/30 @ 7:08 pm #
Jesse @ 146: Wow, you’re actually getting worse. I would not have bet that was possible.
If we are judged by those who oppose us, I would take this as the highest form of compliment. Keep up the good work!
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 7:08 pm #
at what age did O!’s parents die? And O! still smokes.
O is at great a risk of illness/death than McCain.
I have asked her the same thing, Darleen. Odd that she won’t answer a genetics question, that being her special genius and all.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 7:09 pm #
What conclusions can you draw from that?
That you are a scared and lonely boy.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 7:11 pm #
Whistling in the grave yard, as it were…
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 7:12 pm #
Or, prognostication is not your strong suit.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:21 pm #
Barack Obama is, obviously, a leader of men
Maybe a leader of genetic males. But not men. And not woman.
The Left is filled with genderfreaks.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 7:23 pm #
I have answered your question.
bullshit u have not.
im not talikin O’s quals, or biden’s quals.
is sarah palin qualified to be one SEVENTYTWOYEAROLD HEART BEAT away from the presidency?
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:27 pm #
nishisociopath
YES SHE IS
go sterilize yourself, nishinazi
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 7:28 pm #
OMG. It’s like an especially virulent case of herpes.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 7:31 pm #
My proposition was not to teach religion in a science class. It was to differentiate a metaphysical question from a scientific one  in the process, teaching science.
Once again, that discussion has no place in a science class.
You would be giving exposure to a religious philosophy in a science class, and that is illegal.
mentionin it, discussin it, all lends credibility to nonscience.
there is no place for it in scince class.
you are wrong, palin is wrong.
but palin actually believes that crapology.
which puts her in the forty percent doesnt it?
i thot u were a 10percenter Jeff.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:32 pm #
Hello, Heinlein fans?
I’m at a loss for the title — I’m recalling a short story about a black female VP who suddenly finds herself President … with pressure from the political poobahs that she resign and let someone “more experienced” take over. She pretty much kicks their asses out of her office and goes on to great success.
Title?
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 7:33 pm #
Nishi, yes, Palin is qualified to be Maverick’s #2.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:34 pm #
Once again, that discussion has no place in a science class
So if a couple of kids bring it up in class as a debate point, you want to take ‘em outside and shoot ‘em?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 7:34 pm #
I care to listen to what nishi cares to speak of.
Great. Why don’t you two get a room?
As long as the ringmaster says nishi may speak
Didn’t say nishi couldn’t speak (that would be your hero Obama). Just said that I’m not interested in what she has to say.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 7:34 pm #
there is no place for it in scince class.
no place 4 spelin in thar, neether
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 7:34 pm #
Jeff…..just answer yes or no.
it isnt that hard.
use ur intentionalism Master.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 7:35 pm #
Is O! qualified to be no heartbeats away from the presidency?
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:35 pm #
Jaysus H Keerist, nishinazi
Palin’s dad was a science teacher and loved to present all sorts of things for his kids to “chew over.” Palin is not a “creationist” you cretin!
fuck yourself with a rusty dildo.
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 7:38 pm #
This is one sad day for Repubs, conservatives and r-wingers of all stripes. Though McCain is an affable man and a man of past proud moments of bravery, he’s also a blundering fool with a tin ear for politics, evidently.
He took the one advantage he had over his competitor and eviscerated that advantage for the sake of playing gender identity politics, something so many here claim to abhor, unless it’s their team that’s guilty of it.
Sarah Palin is the least qualified, the least prepared, the least versed person ever nominated to be Vice President. And that’s not angled exaggeration, not partisan hyperbole, nothing political at all about it, it’s simply the ugly truth.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 7:40 pm #
This is one sad day for Repubs, conservatives and r-wingers of all stripes.
And yet they’re all happy, while you and nishbot are screaming like frustrated two year olds.
Heh.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 7:41 pm #
You would be giving exposure to a religious philosophy in a science class, and that is illegal.
It is illegal to be part of the curriculum in required classes. It would be acceptable in an elective class, or if it happened to come up in conversation.
mentionin it, discussin it, all lends credibility to nonscience.
By that logic, anything controversial, or still unproven, would be off-limits. If an idea turned out to be wrong, you could be guilty of teaching non-science, and off to the gulag for you.
Comment by Dave E. on 8/30 @ 7:42 pm #
“So if a couple of kids bring it up in class as a debate point, you want to take ‘em outside and shoot ‘em?”
No, Darleen. It must be treated as taboo and the teenagers instructed to have nothing to do with it.
Because we all know how well that works with teens.
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 7:42 pm #
Feigned happiness before the storm of tears.
Heh.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 7:42 pm #
Sarah Palin is the least qualified, the least prepared, the least versed person ever nominated to be Vice President. And that’s not angled exaggeration, not partisan hyperbole, nothing political at all about it, it’s simply the ugly truth.
Who would be the second and third least qualified?
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 7:43 pm #
darleen, Palin has been tarred as a creationist by what she said originally.
tar is sticky.
even tho she walked it back she is always going to be a creationist.
what she said is one of the first things we learned about her.
it takes thousands of reps to unlearn something, but we can “learn” something in an instant.
thing is, no one knew anything about her…so the brain grabs the first things and uses them to define her.
if she was more well known, she might be able to escape the branding-at-first-sight.
but she wasnt, so she will always be a creationist to MSM and a lot of americans.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 7:43 pm #
And yet she’s more qualified that O’Bambi. Hmmm…..
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 7:48 pm #
This is so funny! All those that have been poo-pooing those of us saying Obama doesn’t have the experience to be the president, now almost apoplectic over the thought of someone with slightly more experience being vice president.
If their bias was a penis, there wouldn’t be a condom made that would fit.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 7:48 pm #
everthing she says this week will brand her.
she bettah watch out ;)
the moving finger writes
and having writ
moves on
nor all your piety or wit
can lure it back to cancel half a line
nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 8/30 @ 7:49 pm #
All those that have been poo-pooing those of us saying Obama doesn’t have the experience to be the president, now almost apoplectic over the thought of someone with slightly more experience being vice president.
It’s ’cause she’s a chick, lee.
It’s a feminist thing, I’m pretty sure.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 7:49 pm #
it takes thousands of reps to unlearn something, but we can “learn†something in an instant.
thing is, no one knew anything about her…so the brain grabs the first things and uses them to define her.
Is this the kind of science you propose to teach?
if she was more well known, she might be able to escape the branding-at-first-sight.
I see, because you are an idiot with no awareness of American politics, it is okay to make rash decisions based on minimal study, and By God take those opinions to your grave.
You presuming to even discuss scientific thought is preposterous. You are a buffoon.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:50 pm #
nishit
facts turn to ash in your mouth
Watch out for the Barracuda
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 7:51 pm #
nishit, thor
Bring it on
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 7:52 pm #
What is and isn’t science has no place for discussion in a science class? No wonder the schools are churning out dullards.
Untrue. Especially if I pointed out that it is not science, and explained why.
Doubtful.
From what I’ve seen and heard, I have no reason to believe so.
ibid.
Begs the question.
Think what you want. Just don’t misrepresent my beliefs or arguments.
And yes, I think Palin is qualified to be VP. There are certain prerequisites. I believe she meets them all. GOOGLE IT!
Comment by Dave E. on 8/30 @ 7:52 pm #
queef apparently doesn’t understand that flung poo can be washed off. That’s gonna be a bitter disappointment.
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 7:54 pm #
I love the smell of fear.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 7:57 pm #
c’mon Master, it isnt hard.
i wont even ask for explanation of ur answer.
just yes or no.
;)
Comment by Aldo on 8/30 @ 7:57 pm #
I have figgered out why I dislike her so much, Aldo.
It is the hair, her “doâ€Â.
All she needs is a prairie dress and she’ll look just like those horrible sub-sapient FLDS breederbots that cannibalized their own children for their…….{sneer} religion.
Hmmm
I dig women who wear their hair in a bob, but Sarah doesn’t have the type of face or hair to pull that style off successfully. You’ve gotta play the cards you’re dealt I guess.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 8/30 @ 7:59 pm #
thor proclaimeth:
You use those words, but I doubt you understand what they really mean… or are hoping others won’t.
Keep screeching, Loki.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 8:00 pm #
okfine
;)
Comment by Civilis on 8/30 @ 8:00 pm #
Nishi is an idiot. Reality doesn’t matter to her, only appearances, which are forever cast in stone as whatever figments they first appear in her mind. It doesn’t matter what Palin is, only what 10 second impression of her Nishi received, and no amount of evidence will change it. Nishi is incapable of learning, as she has had the same pattern before with other facts. A lot of things she knows just aren’t true.
Biden’s getting old! Can we trust Obama in the oval office if something should happen to him? President Obama would only be a heartbeat away from actually running the country!
I mean, seriously: If McCain dies in office, President Palin appoints a Vice President with foreign policy experience. It’s still more experienced than Obama / Biden would be.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 8:01 pm #
obviously nishinazi’s reading comp skills (doesn’t understand the last line of #222) are on par with her grasp of reality and morality
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 8:03 pm #
Feigned happiness before the storm of tears.
What was Barry’s nickname on the basketball court again?
Comment by Patrick Chester on 8/30 @ 8:04 pm #
Darleen: I think I recall the Heinlein story you were referring to, but the title escapes me as well. ISTR some part about getting a law passed that required all laws passed by Congress be written in a manner that a non-lawyer could understand.
Oh, and don’t insult a lady in front of the Marine Corps Commandant.
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 8/30 @ 8:05 pm #
have you ever had that feeling…that you thought you knew where you were….in some familiar place…
and it it turns out it is not the place you thought you were at all?
when thou, like her, O Saki
pass among the guests star-scattered on the grass
and reach the spot where i made one
turn down a glass
;)
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 8:06 pm #
Nishi –
Did you see my ceremonial dressing of the wound movie? Your armadillo made an appearance.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 8/30 @ 8:06 pm #
Really, thor. This poorly-faked sense of triumph isn’t covering your hissy fit over Palin very well. Give it a rest, son.
Hah.
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 8:07 pm #
Repubs are going the way of the high plains buffalo. Soon we’ll have to give ‘em special drugs so they’ll fuck more often and then hand feed their offspring. I hate to see it.
“What’s that daddy?”
“Why that’s a Republican. They used to be everywhere in Washington D.C..”
“What happened to them?”
“One day, in one election especially, they mistook they’re own buffshit as food.”
“Can I take one home, daddy?”
“Oh no, no, they’re angry, revolting, horrible, disgusting and stinky!”
Comment by Patrick Chester on 8/30 @ 8:07 pm #
nishi wrote:
Story of your life?
(Oops. Responded to the dippy eugenicist. My bad.)
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 8:09 pm #
have you ever had that feeling…that you thought you knew where you were….in some familiar place…
and it it turns out it is not the place you thought you were at all?
Not when I was sober. No.
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 8:13 pm #
Let me guess - Mr. President? Soon enough it will be.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 8:13 pm #
I love the smell of fear.
Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Load up on guns
Bring your friends
Its fun to lose
And to pretend
Shes overboard
Myself assured
I know I know
A dirty word
Hello (x 16)
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/30 @ 8:21 pm #
Zogby now has McCain-Palin 47/Obama-Biden 45.
But Zogby sucked in ‘04, so take it with a grain of salt.
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 8:23 pm #
Let me guess - Mr. President? Soon enough it will be.
Not likely.
McCain is smelling blood, dude.
http://proteinwisdom.com/pub/
They are fixing to blow the fucking roof off the Xcel Energy Center. No blubbering old hippies or rhinestone cowboys at this shindig. Nothing but wall to wall funky Republicans ready to kick ass, take names, and blow holes in any moose that don’t know their place.
Read ‘em and weep, proggs.
You’re fucked.
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 8:27 pm #
So how’s that jive with the First, nuggie? And the holy sep clause; how’s that allow the virtual religion of disallowing anything but approved cant on public property?
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 8:31 pm #
The answer is that after some point state schooling is itself unconstitutional, nuggie, at least by your line of reasoning. But I won’t bring that up because it’ll blow all your gaskets.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 8:32 pm #
Thor can you please explain to me why it is teh racist to say that Obama got where he is in the Democrat party due to his skin color but it is perfectly fine to say that Palin was only picked for the VP slot because she is a female? That would be great thanks.
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 8:45 pm #
You’re trolling, thor.
Come on, offer somebody your scrotum again.
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 8:46 pm #
I just changed the diaper on my 1-year-old nephew so you’re asking me this is way deja vu.
Barack Obama was elected by voters. That’s how he got to where he is. Sarah Palin, I think, was hand picked for Veep because some Republicans think they can present her to America as God’s little moose killing slut-angel, or something like that. Who can really say. How’s that answer for ya?
Comment by TheGeezer on 8/30 @ 8:49 pm #
Biden was a VAWA biggie. How can the Dems assail Gov. Palin for prosecuting a wife-beating cop?
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 8:53 pm #
Top fuel racing goalposts, thor, although the rose metalflake over burnt hugger-orange basecoat rawks.
Does being pathologically dishonest hurt at all?
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 8:53 pm #
How’s that answer for ya?
Pathetic.
McCain was also elected by voters, the voters knowing he was being entrusted to make a competent VP choice. Which has been enthusiastically accepted by said voters.
But go on, pretend she’s overboard.
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 8:54 pm #
You should name that digger the Panic Express, thor, cause it’s trapping 320+.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 8:55 pm #
Obama was not elected by the voters. Barack Obama was selected by the Democratic party elites and a bunch of jury rigged caucuses in states that are going Republican in the fall. But hey you got your guy so it is all gravy.
Nice job calling her a slut already. You should get a medal for internalizing your left wing talking points so quickly.
Sexist!!!!111!!!!!
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/30 @ 9:01 pm #
What kinda madness is it that makes people personally hate someone they never met because it supports a political ideology?
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 9:04 pm #
See, thor, the other thing you’re forced to ignore in order to remain True is that McCain kicked your ass by playing the PC game better than you PC’ers. PUMA, baby. And that’s for starters and you know it, oh yes you do.
Meaning you’re dashing around that wheel of yours undecided between whether or not to throw in with the old-’Thuglican-guy-and-a-uppity-mom camp — who, ironically, are actually right but give you exactly zero harbor in this your time of need — or to cave on the simply going without your lunch for the next eight years because I’m tellin’ ya, moron, you’re screwed.
And look what it took. McCain and Mrs. V-Twin.
My advice? Be a man and live with it. Outsmarted, out-maneuvered, and out-principled all in one day. Poof!
Comment by cynn on 8/30 @ 9:13 pm #
Skipped many comments. Jeff, I agree that the American Century is over (possible amuse). Also observe that thor is so far over the top he has shattered every ceiling known to man. By jumping into it.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 9:19 pm #
“Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 7:04
Barack Obama is, obviously, a leader of men…”
That’s so rich Thor, you ought to consider a career in comedy!
A leader of men my eye, more like the “dool” guy in college that you dread having assigned to your project group; you KNOW that he’ll do NONE of the heavy lifting, but go out of his way to portray himself as the group “leader” during the presentation!
A palavering, pusillanimous, popinjay, who keeps going on about debating Mav anywhere, anytime; but then never seems to be in the right place or have the time to follow through…
Comment by geoffb on 8/30 @ 9:22 pm #
“have you ever had that feeling…that you thought you knew where you were….in some familiar place…
and it it turns out it is not the place you thought you were at all?
when thou, like her, O Saki
pass among the guests star-scattered on the grass
and reach the spot where i made one
turn down a glass
;)”
I take back #175. That passes with flying colors.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 9:22 pm #
“Gawd i fuckin hate how STUPID you are!”
We have here, ladies and germs, pure distilled Nishi. All the outgassing about her tribe of kool kids boils down to this statement of hormonal exasperation worthy of a middle-schooler. The kind of girl who’d stuff her bra till it could kill at forty paces so everyone would think she was in the “in crowd.” The kind of girl who deliberately and self-glorifyingly writes like the protagonist in Flowers for Algernon because she thinks it makes her the Future. If someone stuffed her piggy little nose under the quotation from The Screwtape Letters to the effect that everyone attains the future at the rate of sixty minutes an hour, no matter who they are or what they do, she’d snort like Francis the Talking Mule and call C.S. Lewis a creationist 40 percenterzezor.
So let’s not waste too much time or energy on her. This is not an intellect we’re dealing with. She’s not a scientist, irregardless of her employment. She’s not a brain, she’s not a lens-grinder. She’s just a fucking hipster. Fifty years ago she’d be in unitard-and-beret fulldress marching in lockstep with her regiment, trying to convince people that HOWL deserved to be read beyond its hyperdramatic opening line. Forty years ago she’d have been tripping her face off at Altamont, convinced that the Hells Angels had been sent by Nixon and Bell Helicopter to kill that poor young fellow. Thirty years ago, shaving her hair and sending Lydia Lunch or the Contortions at full treble, no bass through her earphones to keep her from eating her thumb until Rockets Redglare got back with the good shit, Twenty, pretending she’d schtupped Easy E, etc.
And the sad thing is, she’ll not only admit her devotion to pure trendiness, she thinks it makes her better equipped to survive. At least the beatniks knew what that first line of Ginsburg really meant.
“Barack Obama is, obviously, a leader of men.”
And here, the essence of thor. A breviary of devotion matched in lame pathos only by its hilarity. No amount of gay obama buttsecks jokes will compete to the pure gigglefits this line gave me. I haven’t laughed that hard since Forbidden Broadway skewered Les Miserables.
Like I said, this is their best, and its nothing. The rest is noise.
Comment by cynn on 8/30 @ 9:23 pm #
I’ll give you that JHoward. It’s the Honk-Honk school of political one-upmanship. Just remember that the shit you throw in the fan usually splatters back on you.
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 9:30 pm #
Did I say I thought Palin was unqualified, cynn? No, I said she was the unforseen move left on the PC board that swept the Obamaniacs to the side.
In another thread I suggested that if we were a nation of adults we’d not have to play these games. But we’re not. If I were you I’d give McC. some credit for playing that move as well as anyone could have. This selection wins on enough levels that one of them even outs the bullshit that passes for leftist thought. Such as it is.
That it some good stuff, cynn. Kindly admit it. It’s a beautiful thing when the selection of but one person starts to disabuse approximately half a political divide of its obvious idiocy.
Comment by cynn on 8/30 @ 9:43 pm #
Yeah, JHoward, it’s contrived. A beautiful and efficacious thing.
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 9:45 pm #
In politics even, cynn…
Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 9:53 pm #
True dat, lee. If the voice of the voters were the measure, we wouldn’t be having this conversation because it would be a Maverick vs. Hillary race. No, the proggy SuperProggs picked this shiny Edsel and they’re taking it to Daytona. Unfortunately for them, they seem to have showed up on Monster Truck Demolition Derby day and there’s a tricked out, jacked up Yukon bearing down on them.
Comment by thor on 8/30 @ 10:00 pm #
Andrew “the Noisy” told his mom where to go and then walked away, presumably to his bedroom, where he slammed the door, turned up the Jonas Brothers super loud, and then threw himself on his bed, face down in his pillow, refusing to come out for dinner.
After Obama’s victory in the Presidential election was announced, he suspected thor, his nemesis and a message board bully, had done something really dastardly, like peeking into his secret diary. How did thor know he had wet his bed the night before? How did thor know he had a secret crush on cynn, a sun-kissed hippie girl he’d met on-line on Protein Wisdom. How did thor know he masturbated so faithfully before breakfast? The new blemishes on his forehead were further proof of the pressure cooker that Obama and thor were making of his young life. He’d quit the soccer team and begin reading books, and one day he’d write his own books. That’d be the only way, Andrew thought to himself, to teach those big kids who is boss. Convincing cynn to go with him to prom would require reciting Pushkin. To be the boss, to have cynn, that would be change Andrew could believe in.
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You’re really not that clever, Mr. Noisy.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 10:03 pm #
“Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/30 @ 9:22 pm”
Well said Sir, I concur. In street parlance; Yoo raawk Dude !!!
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 10:03 pm #
Yeah, she’s real dim alrite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dIRmlXRayI
Obama (and thor, Pressure Cooker) could not be reached for (substantive) comment.
Comment by JHoward on 8/30 @ 10:05 pm #
Well, this is, ah, revolting, thor.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/272002.php
Undependable potential dependents.
Comment by Bob Reed on 8/30 @ 10:07 pm #
“Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 9:53 pm
the proggy SuperProggs picked this shiny Edsel and they’re taking it to Daytona. Unfortunately for them, they seem to have showed up on Monster Truck Demolition Derby day and there’s a tricked out, jacked up Yukon bearing down on them”
Delicious…ROFLMAO at the Yukon simile
Comment by Patrick Chester on 8/30 @ 10:08 pm #
“You’re really not that clever, Mr. Noisy.”
Cast-iron pot. Brass kettle. Rather dark. Etc., etc…
Comment by cynn on 8/30 @ 10:10 pm #
Just so you know, thor is my little brother. Yes, he has a probation officer. I reported him again.
Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 10:15 pm #
cynn
The hissyfit thrown by the Obamabots and the Obama camp is more about they getting caught unawares that the OLD GUY did something unpredictable. They had all their anti-Romney the scarey MORMON (cue the screaming horses) ads done and were just awaiting the PREDICTED choice to run them.
I’ve actually heard Lefties on the radio claiming that McCain’s pick of Palin, after all the “false rumors” of Romney or Pawlenty constituted a “dirty trick”.
Fuck ‘em. McCain didn’t pick from “desperation” (fuck you Politico) He picked Palin because she had the true American story that most once-every-four-years voter was dying for.
Do you see Congress’ approval rating? Do you know anyone outside of Frisco/El-Lay/NYC/Chicago A-list cocktail parties who wants yet another DC incestuous political pick?
Obama is the ultimate in Chicago-machine politics and Joe “Plagarist” Biden, in the Senate longer than McCain, a life-long lawyer/politician whose greatest achievements amount to terminal foot-n-mouth disease and an almost unbroken record of being WRONG on foreign policy (this is the idiot who championed partioning Iraq!) Obama/Biden, regardless of pigment, screams SAME OLD SAME OLD
McCain isn’t a lawyer and had more than 20 years outside of DC. But he is still a part of it enough that most yawned and were not energized.
But Palin is the real deal. She is the daughter/niece/mom of every small town 20 miles outside of the “glittering” urban centers where the Beautiful People take lunch and gossip on their Crackberries. Her’s is the “up by your own bootstraps” story that the Left sneers at because it exposes their own incompetancy.
Shrewd decision by McCain? YES! Insulting to women? Not to real women.
Comment by cynn on 8/30 @ 10:15 pm #
If there is any more trouble, we both have to go back to Norway.
Comment by lee on 8/30 @ 10:28 pm #
True dat, lee.
Umm, ahh, wellll, in the interests of integrity, I have to correct you. That was Mr. Pink you quoted, the bastard who posted a better response than mine.
*shuffles foot around*
I mean, mine was OK…
Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 10:39 pm #
But Palin is the real deal. She is the daughter/niece/mom of every small town 20 miles outside of the “glittering†urban centers where the Beautiful People take lunch and gossip on their Crackberries. Her’s is the “up by your own bootstraps†story that the Left sneers at because it exposes their own incompetancy.
Somebody nailed it earlier, she is Marge Gunderson:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mAM57-62IS0&feature=related
Comment by happyfeet on 8/31 @ 2:47 am #
ok so none of y’all have any idea what the chapstick thing means either I think
Comment by B Moe on 8/31 @ 6:12 am #
Not a clue.
Comment by guinsPen on 8/31 @ 6:23 am #
Suzy Chapstick?
Or maybe KY Jelly.
Comment by geoffb on 8/31 @ 6:34 am #
#275
My best guess would be this
He makes wrong answers look correct.
Comment by poppa india on 8/31 @ 6:34 am #
If you google “chapstick dick cheney”, you can find a link to The Church Of the Living Chapstick, which connect Cheney’s “blood for oil war” with the petroleum needed to make Chapsticks. Not shure if a parody or earnest&unhinged.
Comment by poppa india on 8/31 @ 6:35 am #
Also, not sure.
Comment by guinsPen on 8/31 @ 6:43 am #
Under what ridiculous delusion are you under to think your command of language is above that of nishi’s or my own?
…
The new blemishes on his forehead were further proof of the pressure cooker that Obama and thor were making of his young life.
All Hail teh Hammer !
Comment by geoffb on 8/31 @ 6:46 am #
In other weird chapstick related sites there is Lip Balm Anonymous Presents the Industry of Addiction
Chap Stick Conspiracy
One thing I don’t understand is why in a chapstick search the movie Napoleon Dynamite shows up?
Comment by McGehee on 8/31 @ 7:49 am #
Did this come up in the search?
Comment by geoffb on 8/31 @ 7:56 am #
McGehee,
No, but that is probably the reason.
Napoleon Dynamite was listed along with Blistex and a couple others as an expanded search item. It was so incongruous.
Comment by Rusty on 8/31 @ 8:27 am #
Thor is just intimidated by strong women.
Comment by McGehee on 8/31 @ 8:46 am #
The reason I know about SpazzStick is, well…
Comment by thor on 8/31 @ 8:57 am #
Michelle Obama is strong, very intelligent and sexy. Michelle Obama-types can be intimidating, yes.
Comment by JHoward on 8/31 @ 9:17 am #
And judging from #287, he likes it that way.
Comment by B Moe on 8/31 @ 9:29 am #
Bet she would make a hell of a dominatrix, huh thor? Somebody ought to ask Barry about that.
Comment by thor on 8/31 @ 9:34 am #
Michelle Obama is more attractive than the Alaskan baby queefer. My girlfriend, albeit she’s younger than Michelle, is a rare specimen of natural beauty. You could say she attracts attention, so I’m not in state of want for feminine beauty. I have my hands full of that, as they say.
Comment by JHoward on 8/31 @ 9:47 am #
I bet she’s not Russian.
Comment by thor on 8/31 @ 10:27 am #
They all go red one week a month. Commies, all of ‘em. Better you despise every last one of ‘em.
Comment by Pablo on 8/31 @ 10:33 am #
Palin is the total package. Even way up in Alaska, she manages to maintain fruit in the home and run the entire state, all while looking great doing it. And she can field dress a moose.
M’chelle is a self-absorbed whiner, and the novelty of her looks would wear off in about 3 days of listening to her. I’ve walked away from much better looking women because good looks just aren’t enough to cover up an unpleasant personality.
Comment by JHoward on 8/31 @ 10:35 am #
That’s kinda nasty, thor. Issues?
Comment by ThomasD on 8/31 @ 11:01 am #
I’ll bet she’s not XX.
Comment by ushie on 8/31 @ 11:06 am #
I finally figured out what nishi is: she’s the annoying skip on that Enya cd.
Comment by McGehee on 8/31 @ 11:08 am #
Days…?
Comment by furious on 8/31 @ 11:21 am #
“Up is down…Benson is Hedges…Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.”
Yeah, MichelleO’s sense of outraged entitlement is a real turn-on for some people.
—furious
Comment by Mike on 8/31 @ 11:52 am #
So, being a Governor (where you are the PRIME decision maker) does not give someone enough experience to be VICE President but being a senator (where you are only 1 of 100 and only TALK about things) gives you enough to be PRESIDENT. Funny! That is just the OPPOSITE that was said when THE OTHER CLINTON was running. Foreign affairs experience… the big O’ probably only met his first member of the military during his “whistle stop” photo op tour of the middle east. Maybe CAMO’ just isn’t his favorite color.
What DOES the big O’ REALLY believe in? Secular relativism? “What ever is good for MY career is good for the country”. Can anyone remember Gerbals or Hitler? They too attracted large crowds who hung on every word that CHANGE was soon to come. I am the government and I will tell you what is best for you. “We the people” can’t afford HIS kind of government.
Comment by JHoward on 8/31 @ 11:55 am #
thor has no point except that. The left has no point except that. The left exists to see just how far it can parasitically push the system. When confronted with this lack of principle, they react with rhetoric, diversions, denial, lies, and in thor’s case, prose. Those are their concessions to having no point but greed, and that is his.
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/31 @ 12:04 pm #
Palin is the total package.
As McGeehee wrote a while back, “anecdote is not the sum of data,” but my 18 year old niece is wild about Palin. She’s liberal — plans on majoring in journalism at an ivy league school — but Hillary is too much a “politician” for her, seems too “old school.” Michelle — angry and entitled — a b*tch. Palin’s more conservative than my niece, but Palin’s nonetheless everything she wants to be — attractive, a mom, a professional, a jock, a kind woman, and able to stand toe to toe with men. If Palin is elected, the torch will pass from the shrill, angry scolds to strong women who garner respect through performance.
Comment by Jeff G. on 8/31 @ 12:17 pm #
If Palin’s elected, thor will change his handle and travel the world trying to bang saggy moose dressers. For him, it’s all about fashion, anyway — and Palin is the new black.
Ahem.
Comment by Nazdar on 8/31 @ 12:43 pm #
#200 Darleen, I think it’s “The Happy Days Ahead”, in Expanded Universe.
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Comment by Rusty on 8/31 @ 3:19 pm #
#287
Michelle Obama is strong, very intelligent and sexy. Michelle Obama-types can be intimidating, yes.
Yeah. Like I said.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/31 @ 3:33 pm #
I’m glad the “Comment by” line is the first one. That way I can skip nishi and thor.
Unfortunately, most threads degenerate into nishi-fests or thor-fests.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/31 @ 3:38 pm #
M’chelle I think has a sort of chipmunky thing going on. Not in a hot way.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/31 @ 3:39 pm #
Mostly I think Baracky married the mother he never had is what happened there.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/31 @ 3:40 pm #
Hey, stop calling him “the Big O”. That was an OK anime series. Well, until the end of the second season, which was an incoherent mess.
Hmm…maybe I should re-think this.
Comment by Fletch on 8/31 @ 5:55 pm #
nishidiot-
tyvm for triple digit population growth in Africa morons.
a halfcentury of feelgood mortality reduction programs with never a mention of birthcontrol will soon result in a half trillion ppl under the age of 18 with nothing to do and nothing to eat.
Gawd i fuckin hate how STUPID you are!
I suggest we nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 8/31 @ 7:24 pm #
Sorry thor, but that deft bit of fiction still wasn’t as funny as your assessment of the O!’s leadership status. truly groundbreaking, Pryoresque yucks.
Comment by Fletch on 9/1 @ 4:31 am #
Darlene @ 200
I’m at a loss for the title  I’m recalling a short story about a black female VP who suddenly finds herself President … with pressure from the political poobahs that she resign and let someone “more experienced†take over. She pretty much kicks their asses out of her office and goes on to great success.
The title is “The Happy Days Ahead”- from Heinlein’s Expanded Universe.
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