August 8, 2008

An announcement, long overdue

In the comments to a (somewhat) unrelated post, our old pal Karl shows up and writes:

As Jeff has chosen to drag our off-blog discussion on-blog again, folks might as well get the entire conversation. After Jeff e-mailed, asking me to phone him, I responded as follows:

At this point, I would prefer e-mail. It not only would cause me to be more thoughtful, but also would ensure that we are communicating at times of mutual convenience. Having stopped by pw today, I noticed that you seem to be busy with a number of things.

Jeff’s reply:

I can’t carry on extended conversations via email. I don’t have the patience, and my hands are torn up at the moment, so typing is a chore.

If you have the time or inclination, give me a call at xxx-xxx-xxxx. I’m available pretty much any time to answer the phone.

If you prefer not to, that’s okay, too.

Jeff then immediately typed comment #362, which reduced this exchange to: “I contacted Karl today, but he doesn’t wish to speak to me by phone at this point. So I have little hope.”

He also typed his proposal that I delete thor’s abusive comments on my threads, which was already tried, and resulted in thor taking digs at me in the threads of others, as noted in comment #382. Jeff seems to be of the opinion that a method that relies on thor not behaving like a vile jackass on other threads is a workable solution. I respectfully disagree, and I think thor’s behavior over the past week — after Jeff publicly announced he was refusing to ban thor — supports my position.

Moreover, the proposed solution does not address the underlying issue, which is that allowing thor to smear me as a racist on a near-daily basis is precisely the sort of thing I always thought Protein Wisdom existed to oppose. As Rick Moran put it last week:

But the intent of branding me with the scarlet “R” of racist is not simply to inflict pain but rather to stifle and cut off debate. There is no answer I can give to the charge, no proof I can offer, no words that would prove otherwise. The charge simply hangs there, tarring me and discrediting what I write in the minds of some who, although fair minded about most things, might buy into the liberal narrative and wonder if subconsciously I am some kind of closet klansman.

Denials only give credence to the charge. Having to disavow you are a racist gives the battle to your opponent because anything you might say to defend yourself can be twisted and deliberately misconstrued as more evidence of racism. On the other hand, silence denotes assent in many people’s minds so not saying anything is as good as being forced to walk around wearing that scarlet “R” on your bodice.

This is not a question of whining about the unfairness of it all. I am pointing out a fact relevant to the debating of issues in this campaign and the relative merits of the two candidates…

***

It is the major reason we can’t have an intelligent discussion about race in this campaign or at any time.

Compare that with what Jeff wrote above in comment #163:

I did not “alienate” Karl. I had to cho[o]se between banning a longtime commenter who happens to be tight with another contributor, and appeasing Karl’s desire to ban said commenter for making charges that everyone here knows (and pointed out each time) were ridiculous.

I would disagree that it was “pointed out each time,” but that is of little relevance to the larger issue that Jeff overlooks in his narrative of his refusing to “appease” me.

Anyway, that’s where the gap remains, which is why I preferred that the discussion take place via e-mail. I would apologize for subjecting everyone here to another round of this, but it seems that what I write — or my silence — will be held against me. So I thank you for your forebearance.

My reply, which — though it was initially rather spontaneous — I have decided is actually quite well thought through (seems I must have been carrying the weight of all this silly geeky blog drama with me for quite sometime):

Jesus, Karl.

I wasn’t trying to hold anything against you, nor was I trying to bring our offline business online. People asked [about your status], and I responded in a short, condensed version of [what just happened to be very recent] events.

As to the larger narrative here, my site has always fought to take back the meaning of words. In my estimation, thor’s charges of racism, when they are appended to posts that clearly show no such thing, are useful for illustrating ijust how the very mechanisms you use Rick Moran’s analysis to illustrate actually take shape. [They are, therefore, both performative and instructive.]

I have been called a racist repeatedly. Ditto a homophobe. But rather than seek to make that problem disappear artificially, I strive to point out what exactly the person who makes the charge is doing. And I have done this when the subject was [someone other than me, as well]: Tony Snow, or Captain Ed, or Larry Summers, or Bill Bennett, and on and on and on. THAT is the way I oppose such behavior, not by engaging in its bowdlerization or censorship. Sunlight being the best disinfectant and all that…

As for the literalism Karl now wishes to deploy — well, okay, Karl, maybe the fact that thor calling you a racist is ludicrous wasn’t pointed out “each time,” but it was certainly pointed out enough to form a definite pattern; and maybe my use of “appease”, while not intended to be so, came across as fraught, to your reading. But c’mon. I don’t even know how to respond to such nonsense, except to point out that I can seize on such things as well (“drag,” ”reduced”). But what the hell for?

I am getting used to being the villain on my own site these days — all because I now have to balance the sensibilities of various people, which, frankly, just ain’t my job. [I had hoped to step back to get work done; instead, I find myself here constantly on terms other than my own, participating in childish blog dramas and learning, with each passing day, to hate the site I created.]

I tried to come up with a solution that would force each poster to decide what is over the line and what is not — and so in turn force each poster to consider the feelings of fellow posters when reacting to [or allowing] certain behaviors — but evidently that, like so much else I do here, isn’t quite good enough.

No, I have to “choose.” Which is ridiculous. I am not Solomon, I am not God, and I am not comfortable making those kinds of choices. But does anybody concern themselves with how difficult this is for me?

Of course not. It’s all, “you chose thor, idiot. Bring back Karl!” Well you know what? That’s bullshit. [Very few of you here, if any of you] knows what it takes to run a highly visible site like this, especially once you have competing egos making demands on you that you didn’t sign up to mediate, [and that, frankly, you find surreal.]

I emailed Karl yesterday and offered to call him because it is far easier to have a back and forth on the phone than it is by way of email. I likewise noted he could call me. I reached out in good faith, and I had hoped to discuss a proposed solution [– mostly to appease the readers here who spend every thread clamoring for Karl’s return.]

So yes, I tried to contact Karl. For his part, he said he’d prefer to discuss things by email; I told him that wasn’t best for me, and to call me if he has the time and inclination.

Then, in response to [direct] questions about him here, I noted that I held out little hope for our coming to a reconciliation [(though I didn’t put it in those terms)] — particularly given his desire to avoid any kind of “in person” communication.

That was a pretty short and accurate description of things.

Now, I know the big flavor of the month here is Karl pity. But I should think that the opportunity I gave Karl here to reach such a large audience would have at least merited a courtesy phone call [after I reached out to him].

I was wrong. You all can continue to heap the blame on me, but from now on I’m ALL you’ll be heaping blame on.

Effective immediately, no more guest bloggers.

— Which means this site will likely die in my absence, but I’d rather that happen than to [relive] the last couple days, where I’ve been forced to hold my tongue (for the most part) against Dan’s brother (lest, as he emailed me this morning, he “nukes” Tony’s entire site); dance around Dan’s feelings; defend thor’s antics (which are reprehensible, but useful, I think, as a way into what this blog is REALLY about — not the simplistic misunderstanding of what goes on here that Karl has, to my consternation and disbelief, chosen to embrace).

My son starts pre-school on August 18th or thereabouts. I want to write a novella, and I have to begin serious training for an upcoming project. After that, I hope to be back here regularly [and (mostly) full time], relieved, finally, of all the stresses of having to balance so many egos.

I thank all the guest bloggers for their contributions. And they are certainly welcome to take up residence at the Pub — meaning there would be very little change, in terms of content, should they take me up on that offer.

But playing the diplomat is, quite clearly, not my strong suit — and taking abuse from all sides for not being able to handle the task is, in a word, onerous — and not what I signed up for.

I take plenty of abuse from my supposed enemies [in blogland and the larger media.] Getting it from my purported allies only serves to remind me that I’m pretty much alone — and that, when all is said and done, that’s how I work best.

[…]

To those readers I lose over this, I’m sorry. But as I’ve noted before, your favorite posters here will likely land on their feet elsewhere.

For my part, I’ll probably just keep sitemeter turned off, and ignore trackbacks.

Comments will be left open for now.

There. I feel better already.

Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em!

Posted by Jeff G. @ 9:35am
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Comments (582)

  1. I quit smoking. Now I wish I had kept one, just so that I could smoke it in a melancholy manner. Perhaps while wearing a beret and thinking of Paris.

  2. Re-posted from “Four Month’s…” with an added Yee-haw. and thanks for all the fish.

    I think your solution is right Jeff…….and no worries, take your time. Your thoughts are worth the waiting for. We’ll be around when you are around. Word will get out.

  3. This is teh suXxor

  4. The real protein wisdom will soon return.

    Seriously. I feel an incredible weight has been removed from my shoulders.

  5. On the other hand, several large shots of Mezcal might be an appropriate stand in.

  6. Oh, and Matt, if you are reading this? Fuck yourself.

    If you want to “nuke” Tony’s site, do it to Tony. I have nothing to do with it, so you have no one to blame but you.

  7. Similarly, those of you who’ve held up taking pot shots at me, and who will spend the rest of your blog lives doing so at other venues, get it out of your system here now.

    Really. CUT THOSE APRON STRINGS, PEOPLES!

    I tried to keep the site alive with guest bloggers when I was too burned out to do it myself. I’m a heel and a cad and an asshole. And now I’ve taken away your site (hi, Ouroboros!).

    Why, I should be drawn and quartered!

  8. Wow yet another “I am done with this” post.

    You are like Brett Farve retiring 8 freakin times.

  9. Awww, Man. This bites.

    Don’t put pity in my chocolate, JeffG, unless it is self-pity.
    I miss the content and the man.

  10. Well, for what its worth, none of my comments or remarks about management or commenters or guest posters or any of that has ever been intended in the spirit of criticism. Yes, I like Karl’s posts. No, I don’t believe that saying that is in any way, shape, or form criticism of Jeff or Thor or anyone else. It’s simply a stated preference.

    In the end, I don’t have any brilliant suggestions on how to handle this, other than to note that the low bandwidth and low latency of blog commenting seems to leave people without of the bandwidth they would have in direct personal communication, leaving the reader to fill in a lot of blanks, sometimes incorrectly.

    I guess that Tony, despite the fact that he says he’s not that eloquent or thoughtful, probably came closest to the mark – particularly in spirit, even if the specifics don’t map over exactly – with his comment on the other super-long thread. And nobody should think that citing Tony is intended to say anything about anything other than the fact that I liked his style and I think he made a good point.

  11. Listen, Mr Pink, you moronic windbag. This is NOT another “I am done post.” Just the opposite, really. This is a “I am taking back my site” post.

    That you’re too stupid to get that from what I wrote is proof of my (heretofore) secret thesis that a certain few commenters here are too dumb to last upon my full-time return.

    You, I believe, are a poster child for such a one.

    Go find Cap’n Ed. He can spoonfeed you what you want to hear.

    Because frankly? You don’t have the chops for this place the way I run it.

    Sorry to be so blunt, but I’m done trying to save people’s feelings. I suck at it anyway. So off with you, Mr Pink, if that’s your choice. There are plenty of internet places made especially for you — and, bonus! rumor has it they give out “I heart Hannity” t-shirts!

    Look out, baby! Jeffy is BACK!

    (Well, you know. Like, coming soon).

  12. No pot shots from me, Goldstein. I enjoy your site because it let’s me know what the other side is thinking. I am not a ‘joiner’ who seeks camraderie and solace through bonding with the like-minded.

    You have given me the opportunity to vent with impunity and that is a rare commodity in the bloguniverse. Thank you for that. As for Karl,
    he was a hard worker with a slightly greater measure of narrowness than
    Collins. His maturity is displayed corpulently by his reaction to Thor’s permission to speak.

  13. BTW;

    Duncan Idaho is me. False colors seems to be an accepted trend here.

  14. I’ve always believed that this isn’t some public service – Jeff doesn’t owe any of us a goddamned thing, and the people who thinks that he has some obligation to run this site in any way other that the way he wants I find offensive.

    I’m a big fan of Karl and Dan and Darleen and will keep my eyes peeled for their contributions elsewhere; in the meantime, Jeff, do what you want with this place. It will either keep my interest or it won’t (my guess is it will) and no harm done to anyone. You either deserve my traffic or you don’t; you don’t OWE me anything.

    Bill Whittle posts bi-annually these days, it seems, but http://www.ejectejecteject.com is still on-line, and I still have it bookmarked because when he DOES post, it’s brilliant. I can foresee something similar happening here.

    Good luck and godspeed, Jeff.

  15. This is effing change is what this is. You can’t fool me.

  16. Are you really Duncan Idaho, or merely a ghola sent here to destroy Goldstein? Answer quickly, whelp!

  17. I am just tired of the endless complaining of how “hard” and “stressful” typing on a computer is. It is funny though that you want guest bloggers on your site to put up with commentators calling them racist every 5 minutes but yet you can’t handle someone telling you to grow up and stop acting like a baby without telling them to fornicate with a swordfish or that they suck Karl off.

    By the way I do not even know who Capn Ed is and I hate Hannity.

  18. Yowza, we’ve stirred Goldstein.

    Back to having fun, good mean fun.

    I’m sticking around. This could get good.

  19. But welcome back. I am very happy.

  20. Shocking even my-own-self, I recognized you instantly from your “…displayed corpulently…” Semanticleo. Rich Little couldn’t have pulled that off.

  21. The real protein wisdom will soon return.

    Yay! The guest bloggers have done lots of outstanding work and some of the best bloggers on the web are among them. But they don’t do pw, which everyone wants back. A resurrected pw accompanied by a vibrant PW Pub would be an excellent outcome.

  22. Hey, good for you, Jeff. I wouldn’t know a Karl post or a Dan post if I didn’t see them on this site. That’s not saying they aren’t good at what they do, or that I don’t appreciate their efforts.

    You, however, are a one-off, and I could spot your writing anywhere. And waiting for a post from you is always worth it. THANK YOU for reclaiming your blog for yourself.

    Life’s too short.

  23. Yes. That was uncalled for, sdferr, what Semanticleo said. Everyone as far as I can see has behaved with integrity. Karl and Jeff especially but even thor in his way… he stuck to his guns, and I liked his point about nishi except about her being a nut. Integrity is a lot important.

  24. YES! About freakin’ time. Kudos to all the guests, enjoyed them all, but they were not, and could not be, Jeff.

    Post frequently, sporadically, or not at all, Jeff. It will still all be PW.

  25. I am just tired of the endless complaining of how “hard” and “stressful” typing on a computer is.

    Moron quotient = INFINITY!

    Typing isn’t hard. Spending seven years being stalked, harassed, Google-bombed, etc. — fighting battles I know I can’t win but that I believe are nevertheless worth fighting — THAT’S where the stress comes in. Compound that with having to negotiate the drama of a bunch of blog commenters and posters who suffer from entitlement issues — like, for instance, YOU, “Mr Pink” (incidentally, try appending things to your real name and see if the stress does or does not increase) — and you’d quickly find that the burnout is very very real.

    And by “you’d,” I’m of course talking about people unlike you, those who have a bit of decency and better-firing synapses.

    It is funny though that you want guest bloggers on your site to put up with commentators calling them racist every 5 minutes but yet you can’t handle someone telling you to grow up and stop acting like a baby without telling them to fornicate with a swordfish or that they suck Karl off.

    How is that “funny”? I, in fact, DID handle it — by telling you to fuck yourself raw with a swordfish.

    What I didn’t do was write to Dan or Karl or Darleen and demand that you be banned for telling me to grow the fuck up. Your opinion means shit to me. I don’t know you, you don’t know me, you haven’t been around long enough to know what this site is about, how it came to prominence, or what it stands for. So frankly, you’re not really on my radar — except insofar as you let me treat you like a little punching bag.

    Incidentally, if you’re not yet ready to take a frozen swordfish in the chocolate starfish, Mr Pink, try a nice Halibut steak. As a way to kinda break that sphincter in.

    By the way I do not even know who Capn Ed is and I hate Hannity.

    Whatever. Fine. Buy Karl’s newsletter, then.

  26. fwiw, the only thing I’m unclear on is the “old pal Karl” line and what irony quotient, if any, I should assign to the phrase. Which probably brings up the question of intentionalism versus inferentionalism … or something.

    Pie.

  27. Well, the selfish part of me is bummed because, let’s face it, the ego gratification of being able to get responses to my little whimsies is quite nice, and on my site the comments that aren’t spam come few and far between. On the other hand, this was supposed to be over a long time ago, and I wouldn’t have put up with the drama nearly as long as Jeff did. So, thanks, Jeff, for letting me know what it’s like to have a real audience.

  28. Maybe the problem is that Jeff might not have what it takes to be really good at being a major league asshole, and the attendant stress of being treated like an asshole when he doesn’t want to be just causes too much grief.

  29. I mean by “old pal” “old pal” — a friend to this site with a long history here who is no longer with us.

    I don’t begrudge Karl his feelings. But I’m not going to cater to them anymore, either. He’s a talented guy whose stuff I was pushing before he even became a guest blogger here.

    But the only indispensable person on this site is me: not because I think I’m a God or a “star” (all of which struck me as rather ludicrous when Matt started attacking me that way), but rather because this is my site.

    Period.

  30. Jeff: running a group blog where everyone gets published on the same page is a strain. I recall how when you were the one on here 100% of the time, then I stopped reading blogs and when I came back to place you in my GReader I was like, “where the hell is HE, the funny guy?”

    I really don’t know how the other group blogs do it, even for a few like Red State, Next Right, DKos, any of the sites that have editorial oversight. I do look forward to you coming back in full form when you get the chance, and good luck on that novella.

  31. Comment #4 is music to my ears! Yipee! I cannot fucking wait, Jeff. Just my two cents (which really just amount to one cent), but this is a great solution. I can’t wait for the book. I can’t wait for JEFF GOLDSTEIN’S Protein Wisdom again. The guest bloggers were fine, but this place is you, baby! Sweet!

    Semen, no matter what name you go by, you’re a loon.

  32. a couple thoughts:
    1. thanks to you, jeff, and the guest bloggers for your time, energy, patience, et al.
    2. I sincerely hope you and karl can come to an amicable resolution. separation of the personal from the political and all that..

    but primarily, thanks and appreciation.

  33. Maybe the problem is that Jeff might not have what it takes to be really good at being a major league asshole,

    That may be so, but he’s a goddamned Paul Prudhomme on which seafood goes with which bunghole.

    HUMOR!

  34. I find it “funny” because you are now typing like a DailyKos diarest on a good Boooosh rant simply cause I told you to grow up. Every fifth word is a cuss word, every tenth word is an insult, congrats way to raise your “moron quotient”.

    I know I haven’t been around here long enough to see the “real” PW, but if this is any indication of what that is then I am glad.

  35. Jeff,

    What Scooter said above. The little punks who think they should have a say in how you run your site and how you write for yourself definitely should go somewhere where the blogger allows that crap. Your site is yours. Blogger is free. WordPress is free.

    I enjoyed most of Karl’s posts, if only because of the (mostly civil) discussion that ensued. In your absence, he posted on things I could think and write about.

    However, in your absence and your style of explanation and teaching, I have noticed a sort of faux-intellectualism creep in. I find it troubling and look forward to your triumphant return discussing the issues of the day with your flair.

  36. Not as much suxXor anymore.

    MissKKKleo is as incoherent as evah. Good times.

  37. BTW, any notion where it is the guest posters post when not posting here?

    Thanks!

  38. “I can’t wait for JEFF GOLDSTEIN’S Protein Wisdom again.”

    Wow, did that sound unbelievably gay (NTTAWT). You know what I mean.

  39. Sigh.

    This post exemplifies what sucks about the site. This: (“d

    If there’s anywhere on the internet that needs to have its auto-close-quote-after-open-parenthesis bug fixed, it’s Jeff’s place.

    (If it doesn’t screw up the quotes this time, I’m burning this shithouse down.)

  40. Is the pub staying open, or is that getting yanked for the duration?

  41. Is the pub staying open

    boozer

  42. All of your armadillos are belong to me !!!!

  43. There’s always one. Or 100.

  44. I find it “funny” because you are now typing like a DailyKos diarest on a good Boooosh rant simply cause I told you to grow up.

    Actually, you have nothing to do with the way I write. Get over yourself.

    Every fifth word is a cuss word, every tenth word is an insult, congrats way to raise your “moron quotient”.

    You’ve got yourself a comma splice in there, buddy. Beyond that, though: “CUSS WORDS?” Holy shit! Run for the fucking hills of Cuntland!

    Christ, how I hate blue noses.

    I know I haven’t been around here long enough to see the “real” PW, but if this is any indication of what that is then I am glad.

    Good, fine, okay, yeah, got it, ain’t your cup of motherfucking tea.

    Hugh Hewitt doesn’t curse much. Go visit his site.

    Oh. But remember: HUGH HEWITT IS NOT MY MASTER!

  45. BRD —

    Karl is at claudepate.com; dan at bloodyscott and elsewhere. I hope they both take up residence at the pub. I believe you can find the rest by clicking on their names.

  46. I never really understood why Karl was so upset with thor. Karl’s posts tended to the analytical side, making thor’s attempts to paint them as somehow racist just seem pathetic and silly. But maybe I’d feel different if it was me he was attacking, I don’t know.

  47. FWIW, don’t think for a moment that this in any way mitigates the fact that y’all are horrific racists.

  48. This is effing change is what this is. You can’t fool me.

    I’ve been hoping for Jeff’s triumphful return.

  49. Yes, Sarah, the Pub is open, and I sincerely hope the remaining guest bloggers take up residence there and send me links to posts they find particularly insightful, funny, etc. I will of course happily link them on the front page.

    For what it’s worth, I hope the Pub is 1000x bigger than the main site. But at least the main site will smell like me again.

    — Which, for those of you in the know, is a bit like chicken soup and cashews.

  50. JD, I’m creeping away to my denouncey-hole. The hot denouncing rays burn.

  51. Man. I feel almost high today!

    You have no idea how good it feels being able to say you no longer can concern yourself with the disparate feelings of so many people.

    If there’s a song here to offer up as a kind of glimpse into my psyche right now, it’s probably “This Ol’ Cowboy” by the Marshall Tucker Band.

    GOOGLE IT, PEOPLE!

  52. I always figured you smelled like matzoh balls and fish oil.

  53. Frankly, I have always been amazed at the quality, creativity, and ingeniuty of commenters on this site – easily surpassing all other conservative sites that I have visited. (It’s why I don’t comment much here – sort of like a Phys Ed major walking into a monthly Mensa meeting).

    I suppose there is a lot of misunderstanding about how personal a blog becomes over time, how you are compelled to guard it, to defend it – to love it. Without psychoanalyzing things too much, a blogger’s identity (at least his online identity) is pretty much wrapped up in his website. And I’m not even talking about how personal a craft writing is – that’s a whole separate issue. Attacks on what is written become assaults not on your talent or intelligence but on you personally – a whole different kettle of fish than name calling.

    Goldstein has taken on issues that hardly anyone has been willing to confront the left on. If for no other reason, this blog should survive because it sets the record straight on so many things that actually matter to politics and culture; that reason and logic must triumph over nihilism and intellectual deceit.

    Come back soon, Jeff. We’ll be waiting.

  54. It’s liberation, Jeff. It feels good. I can empathize a bunch.

    I figured Jeff smelled like peat.

  55. I’d’a thought steamed blue-crabs ‘n’ Old Bay with a hint of Laphroiag. But I’m a life long smoker and the nose don’t work so good anymore, so there ya go.

  56. That Rick Moran is a good dude, for a jingoistic racist.

  57. I think the business of people posting to the Pub and Jeff picking up those posts he chooses to is a pretty good solution. Sort of a special blogging zone which Jeff doesn’t have to mess with, pay attention to, or get stressed over.

    I looked at Karl’s site. It’s pretty good, but I hope he can find a place to do election analysis. I enjoy his content.

  58. psycho and ric locke, shoot me emails please if you get a chance.

    Thankee.

    JHoward, cranky, craig, SI, et al — please, continue posting at the Pub if you so desire. And again, send me them links.

  59. Well, ya got the peat down, Sdferr. Doesn’t get much peatier than Laphroig.

    With this good news, I’m guessing I’m gonna have a dram…or two…or three.

  60. “psycho and ric locke, shoot me emails please if you get a chance.”

    This could only mean something very, very good.

  61. It’s already started, people.

    I’m sitting here in my swivel chair in shorts and a t-shirt, but I feel like I’m wearing a Billy Jack hat, and the hippie idealism is seeping from my pores like pizza grease from a Michael Moore ass pimple.

    WOOOOT!

  62. I AM NOT BEHOLDEN!

  63. Jeff, will the Sign up still work?

    That way I can get back here pronto when your time permits observations that induce leftospheric fulminations, all for my enjoyment.

    Thanks!

  64. It should, Geezer.

  65. Okay. I’m off to work out now. Chat among yourselves.

    And keep them barbs coming. I need to get back in practice. Being a nice guy has taken a terrible strain on me. Time for me to fuck some brothers up!

  66. Ok, I get it now. It’s your blog, Jeff. You did not sign up to referee the squabbles of others, and you have neither the time nor the desire to start now. I hope you will still post your funny thoughts from time to time. That’s what got me reading PW in the first place.

    Having said that, Karl is a good read. I am glad he was a guest blogger in your absence. And Thor is a major league super atomic douche bag, and a tiresome one at that. Only Nishi was a bigger bore.

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  68. I thought the guest posters were great. Glad I could provide them a forum. Not glad that doing so has ultimately turned this site into The OC.

    Now. Who’s up for a good cockslapping? SINGLE FILE LINE, PLEASE, PEOPLE!

  69. The OC? There were tits here and I didn’t notice? Impossible.

  70. Did you smoke something today?

  71. I believe I smoked you, Mr Pink.

    Try baking soda.

  72. TODAY, MY CHILDREN, THE ARMADILLO SHALL DANCE!

    (…or, you know. Not. Hard to tell, really. So, I guess, disregard this comment — at least in its most optimistic rendering).

  73. I find it “funny” because you are now typing like a DailyKos diarest on a good Boooosh rant simply cause I told you to grow up.

    The notion of someone calling himself “Mr. Pink” telling a guy who posts under his real name to “grow up” is so tasty that you could put a crack dealer out of business.

    Well, not YOU. YOU could shove it sideways up your halibut-infested ass.

    Welcome back, Jeff (when you come back).

  74. “TODAY, MY CHILDREN, THE ARMADILLO SHALL DANCE!”

    Well, you’re certainly in good spirits.

  75. Comment by Jeff G. on 8/8 @ 10:59 am #

    I believe I smoked you, Mr Pink.

    How you figure?

    PS Typing that you “smoked” a guy is probably not the most hetero thing to do.

  76. Jimmie when someone keeps telling you they quit every other day are they not acting like a child? As for not posting under my real name what would be the difference it is not like you would know me.

  77. I really thought I had trackbacks turned off. Oh well.

  78. A guy named “Mr Pink” is a homophobe?

    Wow. The delicious irony of self-blindness makes my morning’s tasty breakfast that much more tastier.

  79. Mr. Pink —

    I AM TELLING YOU THAT I AM RETURNING, WHEN TIME PERMITS, AND THAT IF YOU ARE HERE LOOKING FOR OTHERS, YOU ARE NOW IN THE WRONG PLACE.

    I put that in all caps hoping that you’re not really incapable of understanding what is plain to most others here; rather, that you missed the original target with that Halibut steak and shoved it into your ear — a not uncommon misfire when one has shit for brains, as well.

  80. Having JG tell us the armadillo shall dance is the equivalent of when Paris Hilton was rubbing my junk under a table in West Hollywood. I got good and excited, but I had a sneaky feeling that it wasn’t going to happen.

  81. How are you coming to the conclusion that I am a homophobe? You going to call me racist next?

  82. Oh, so you’re into the “smoking” and the “Mr Pink” connectedness then?

    My bad for misunderstanding. Should’ve known when you brought it up.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t judge. Whatever floats your boat, Mr Pink. It’s your junk. Do with it as you please.

  83. Mr. Pink used to be kinda okay. Now he’s coming across as, you know, one of “those.” You know. Democrats.

  84. I might have given you the wrong impression that the only reason I come to this site is for your guest bloggers. I think you are projecting here I never said such a thing. This is a great website with the best commentators on the web, well besides me. Just because I said I was a big fan of Karl’s writing did not mean I wanted to service him like you mentioned upthread, or that I wanted to go try and find some other website to frequent while wasting my day away in a cubicle.

  85. ROID RAGE!

    Seriously though, great to have you back. For a long while now, I’ve ignored everyone’s posts but yours, so I needed a little back-story on the previous (creepy) high drama.

    And I know what it’s like to go hot/cold on a project. Sometimes things need to hit the shitter completely before you can bounce back into things.

  86. Comment by cranky-d on 8/8 @ 11:15 am #

    Mr. Pink used to be kinda okay. Now he’s coming across as, you know, one of “those.” You know. Democrats.

    Yeah I know I am having the feeling that telling the owner of this site to grow up is not endearing me to anyone here. I am no longer in the cool click I guess. Hey thor, Nishi, and Cleo do you have any plans later today?

  87. (…or, you know. Not. Hard to tell, really. So, I guess, disregard this comment — at least in its most optimistic rendering).

    Oh, no no no no. You now OWE ME a ‘dillo boogie, and I’m not leaving until I get one, fucker.

  88. Mr. Pink – No rational person would ever even consider being lumped in with those twatwaffles.

  89. I’m with Rick Moran. I can’t remember the last time I commented here. I just lurk around because, frankly, I’m scared and know I can’t keep up. Jeff, I’m thrilled you’re taking back your own ground. No offense to your guest bloggers, but I tune in to this channel to watch THIS CHANNEL.

  90. “Hey thor, Nishi, and Cleo do you have any plans later today?”

    Why? You got extra halibut steaks?

  91. Mr. Pink. One of those people you mentioned are not like the others.

  92. It was a joke JD, I guess it was not that funny.

  93. frankly, I’m scared and know I can’t keep up.

    Why would anyone be scared?

  94. or “is”. Shit.

  95. Yeah I know I am having the feeling that telling the owner of this site to grow up is not endearing me to anyone here.

    I don’t think it’s so much what you said as it is the ignorance behind it. Others have been here for a long long time and know things about some of my travails, stemming directly from my proprietorship of this site, that you, evidently, do not.

    …Oh. And that Halibut steak should be done cooking by now. Try a nice zesty dill sauce with it. Trust me.

  96. Good luck with your new PW Classic, Jeff… Hope you find all the success in the world. Thanks to all the ‘Guest Posters’.. I’ve enjoyed your work immensely. Hope to see you all around. And finally, thanks to the commentariat.. I’ve enjoyed each and every one of your comments… even the griefers which are a much better class of griefer than any other site’s.. And good sports as well, considering the hammering they take. I’ve always enjoyed and admired Jeff’s excellent writing, but it’s the community that grew up around this place that has really kept me coming back for so long… If I treated it like “my blog” it’s because it’s familiar and comfortable.

    Ciao, Tutti!

    Jake

  97. S’okay, Jeff.

    I’ll just keep looking at the site for occasional posts about postmodernism, textual analysis, and the like.

    It’s what I read PW for anyway.

    The guest posters were pretty OK, but you and your ability to perform high-end textual analysis were and remain the big draw for me.

    (Hey, Pink. I believe your comment PS Typing that you “smoked” a guy is probably not the most hetero thing to do. was likely the basis of the (probably humorously intended) accusations of homophobia.

    You know, that line where you called someone gay for laughs. That. See?)

  98. Well, you can still come back for the community, Jake. But I ain’t running a kibbutz here, no matter how many lemon trees you try to plant.

    Now. Go pick me my citrus, bitches!

  99. Man, Matt was right. I’m a FUCKING ROCK STAR!

    What is that, tap water? You are so fired…


  100. Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/8 @ 11:12 am #

    How are you coming to the conclusion that I am a homophobe? You going to call me racist next?

    Allow my the pleasure, good Sir. Pink, you’ve always had it out for the darker hues. Your bias is based solely on color while unjustly indifferent to content and character.

    Likely there is free counseling at a county-funded Martin Luther King Charm and Rehabilitation school near you. Go there, get yourself clean and when you come back you can stand-up and introduce yourself a former one those.

    You just need to start a fresh start, right, Little Bones, yes, even the cat agrees.

  101. “is seeping from my pores like pizza grease from a Michael Moore ass pimple.

    – Stop stealing my lines Goldstein – Milton Berle you’re not.

  102. When Jeff said he was going to ‘workout,’ I think he meant he was gonna run around the house knocking shit over with his cock.

  103. Halle-cockslappin-lueah!
    That’s all I have to say about that.
    Jeff is THE ONE we have been waiting for, alright.
    Got summat changey hopey shit goin on raht heah!

  104. Karl really gets some props I think not just for his great blogging and genuine concern for keeping this site up and running but cause he precipitated all this, even if the narrative on that is sort of complexicated. But mostly I feel that Karl set a very high bar for … I will use the word stewardship. That was very giving I thought how he stepped up and I am impervious to the idea that stewardship is not the best word for it. I will be over here being impervious.

  105. Also I really genuinely miss viewing this campaign thing through the lens of his posts. I had to stop listening to NPR cause everything got all unbalancey.

  106. I don’t think it’s so much what you said as it is the ignorance behind it. Others have been here for a long long time and know things about some of my travails, stemming directly from my proprietorship of this site, that you, evidently, do not.

    You are right I do not know a thing about your personal life. You are posting here on the internet your ideas and feelings and I thought I was free, even in my ignorance, to comment on them. It is not like I needed a special decoder ring to get here. I was only referring to your repeated references to “quiting”, being “tired of all of this” and “I am done. with. this.” comments.

    By the way Sigivald he was the one started with the homosexual comments by telling me to service Karl in a sexual manner. Now supposedly I am using a swordfish on myself with some fresh basil and dill.

    PS Thor we all know that was a Russian MAN you slept with.

  107. Damn, I feel like a little kid whose parents keep fighting and separating. If I turn out to be an axe murderer, it’s all y’all’s fault.

    For the files (when the journo’s come looking for WHY I strangled all the dogs at Daisy Hill Puppy Farm) —

    — It never registered with me that thor was bothering Karl because I usually only scan thor’s stuff. Maybe thor has earned a lot of respect here during the year I was gone, but I haven’t seen why since I’ve come back. Shorter — a train runs behind my house 3 times a day and I don’t hear it anymore.

    — I will very much miss Dan, Darleen, Carin, cranky, JHoward, Sanity Inspector, etc, as they had become kind of my blog family. Live long and prosper, kids. I barely knew ye.

    — Welcome back, Big Daddy. May the blog muse inspire you every morning with a light feather dextrously twirled along your GAY COCK PORN OF LIES!

  108. It sure does feel good to let loose.

    Hey, Matt — go ahead and fuck Tony by “nuking” his stuff and linking him to gay porn sites, see how he takes it.

    Had your brother not mentioned you by name, none of this would have happened, is what’s so funny: eg., your business partner wouldn’t be thinking, “Fuck. I signed on with a psychopathic dickhead who threatens clients for being upset when they’re handed a plate of four-month old shit and told to shut up and eat it, at least it was free,” or, “Jeez. I hope no client complains, because I’d hate to come to work one day and find out that Matt has written him an email explaining that, as a Christian, he forgives that client for being a moral defective cunting fuckstick whom he’d like to punch in the teeth but can’t, given he’s a Christian. Because that might be bad for business.”

    I AM NOT BEHOLDEN!

    It’s Tony’s site, and Eliot’s artwork. If you fuck anybody, you’ll be fucking those guys. Deal with it, you Jumbo-sized prick. You lost your scapegoat. So either put up or shut up.

  109. It is not like I needed a special decoder ring to get here.

    Heh.

    If you only knew.

    I don’t see you lasting a month once I get going, skippy.

  110. PS Thor we all know that was a Russian MAN you slept with.

    That has been washed down the memory-hole, and replaced with visions of a menage-a-quattro with thor, Michael Vick, Baracky, and Rosie O’Lard.

  111. It’s good to have you back, Jeff.

  112. Salt Lick —

    All those folks are welcome at the Pub. And I’ll link there stuff to the front page here, keeping my personal editorial distance.

    I appreciate their work. But I’m looking out for me at this point. As I told Darleen in an email, I only have one head of hair.

  113. Thanks, Diana. Spread the word.

    I want this place to retake on cultish flair. Which means no more instanlanches and hot air links and RCP or memeorandum traffic, most likely. But fuck it — life’s to short to go trolling for a group hug.

    Let it come to me.

  114. I’ve got a decoder ring…..
    Doesn’t eveyone?

  115. Why’d you have to go there, JD?

    “I don’t see you lasting a month once I get going, skippy.”

    Oh, yeah (not Mr. Pink maybe going) but the stars are aligning again. I know, I’m going to have other browsers open again to research some of the more esoteric references. Sweet.

  116. Heh.
    If you only knew.
    I don’t see you lasting a month once I get going, skippy.

    What are you talking about?

  117. Sometimes when I am home alone and the OC is in reruns, I dress up in my best banana republic attire, pour myself a nice glass of Cristal and say witty things to my cats in a manner expressive of my California urbanity. Then I take off all my clothes and do X until I throw up.

    How’s that for faux-intellectualism? Bitches!

  118. Obstreperous Infidel the sycophant: “Oh, yeah (not Mr. Pink maybe going) but the stars are aligning again. I know, I’m going to have other browsers open again to research some of the more esoteric references. Sweet.”

    Ah, when the stars are right… sweet indeed.

  119. Damn a week spent out of town & all kinds of shit breaks loose!

    Going to miss the guest posters & will continue to read them where ever they end up, but truthfully I missed the old PW.

    Now where’s that ‘dillo!?

  120. I want this place to retake on cultish flair

    Dolphins in peacoats,
    red pills in the cushions,
    sudden short fictions and sea monkey kings,
    These are a few of my faaaaavorite things…..

  121. Then I take off all my clothes and do X until I throw up.

    Been there. Done that. Puked on the t-shirt.

  122. “Let it come to me.”

    – It did. As long as you had a good community and a unique product. Chao.

  123. Yeah, the meter is way off. Sue me.

  124. My girlfriend used to watch OC, which ment I watched it too. The entire time the show was on I imagined hiding myself in the company clearing barrel and praying for a quick death from AD.

  125. Not that I would ever presume to request something, but the Scenes From a Fallujah Bunker with Taleel, Ahmed, and Talib are always good.

    I have not type GAY PRON COCK OF LIES in a while. Good times.

  126. It’s not oldskool PW until Jewzilla makes a comeback.

    and he completes the top 10 Movies You Should Have Seen lists for the years 1983-1989.

  127. Gossip Girl is the new OC really. I love how they’re using the Parents Television Council’s condemnations as blurbs on their billboards. Brent Bozell is a repressed little man. He should be laughed at boisterously I think.

  128. Where am I going anyway? I still am not getting that one.

  129. Sorry to see you go, BBH. You were one of my favorite commenters.

    But alas and alack, all we are is dust in the wind. Blow where you feel best.

  130. A third ad by the CW network marketing department promoting “Gossip Girl” features two teenagers in bed, and it triggered this critique from the Parents Television Council: “Mind-Blowingly Inappropriate.” This was the ultimate spit in the face to parents. The message sent to their children: You should watch this show upstairs in your room while your nerdy parents aren’t looking.

  131. Oh. The point is they then did a billboard campaign with the ads that now say “Mind-Blowingly Inappropriate” – Parents Television Council. I love that.

  132. oh crap. BBH you are not to go. That’s taking the effing change thing way too far. I think you are fun and you bring it, a lot.

  133. “Brent Bozell is a repressed little man.”

    I love you.

  134. Maybe telling your commentors that you are quiting every other day or advising them to shove a swordfish up their @sses ain’t the best way to go about keeping your traffic up. Which actually now that I think about it seems to be your goal now IMHO. You are acting like a little kid that got grounded and sent to his room so he starts breaking his own toys.

  135. “But alas and alack, all we are is dust in the wind. Blow where you feel best.”

    – Wtf, are you going somewhere Jeff?

    – (Not to worry feets…. the shipments of cupcakes will go on unimpeded.)

    – Time for a group Gobsmack, thats what I’m thinking.

  136. Jeff takes blog back. Crude Oil drops $3.50 to $116.50. DJIA up 300pts. Russia invades useless little Georgia, scaring the bejesus out of silly EU types. Idiot hopey changey Gang of Ten energy fraud exposed in WSJ. Congressional switchboards flood with angry calls. LA marketing firm unveils brilliant Obama hand signal. Ordinary Americans seen walking down street sniggering behind their hands for no apparent reason.

    Coincidence? Pshaw, get out.

    Sniggering? Oh.

  137. Good on you, Jeff. You=PW, and PW=you, despite some of the awfully good writing that has tried nobly to keep the seat warm.

    Quality vs. quantity always wins, I think.

    Rest up, friend.

  138. Maybe telling your commentors that you are quiting every other day or advising them to shove a swordfish up their @sses ain’t the best way to go about keeping your traffic up.

    It wasn’t good for keeping anything up, truth be told. But I’ve given plenty over the years, so most long-timers here don’t really begrudge me my moods — a good portion of which were tied to the conflict in my mind that I this very morning resolved with finitude.

    Which actually now that I think about it seems to be your goal now IMHO. You are acting like a little kid that got grounded and sent to his room so he starts breaking his own toys.

    Well, not really. I’m just pretending to, while making sure that the toys I break were either already broken or, in your case, belonged to someone else entirely.

    Whoopsie!

  139. Wow I read that 450+ comment thread. Truly epic. I really love the part where thor tries to dissemble about why he called karl a racist by explaining that Hillary! was a mendacious shitbag, when we already knew that she and BJ were liars. Shocka, I know. What karls points were was that Obama is just the same, but no one in the MSM was calling him on it, and instead had turned on their former Hero of the Peoples Democrat in support of the current trendy mendacious shitbag Democrat. And I don’t mean just ordinary partisan support, but creepy, cult of personality, Messianic political slobbering that you usually only see in totalitarian dictatorships like Stalinist Russia, Nazi germany or North Korea. But, if you point that out, your a racist? Fucking cockamamie bullshit.

  140. - Ok Sdferr…..The use of the term “sniggering” comes Daaaangerously close to a denouncing offense.

  141. Maybe telling your commentors that you are quiting every other day or advising them to shove a swordfish up their @sses ain’t the best way to go about keeping your traffic up. Which actually now that I think about it seems to be your goal now IMHO. You are acting like a little kid that got grounded and sent to his room so he starts breaking his own toys.

    I didn’t know cluelessness could stack that high.

  142. Kinda like a mile high wall around Gaza stacking BMoe?

  143. Anybody know what the @ in “@sses” means?

    I can’t quite figure it out. There’s a letter missing. Can someone please help? That @ simple has really thrown a wrench into my ability to decipher.

  144. Fuck it. I give up. I’m just going to go with “jsses.” Not that I have a cunting clue what that shit means.

  145. This is the best outcome, methinks. PW means Jeff Goldstein. There’s no other way it could be authentic.

    For the conceptual continuity !

  146. “Kinda like a mile high wall around Gaza stacking BMoe

    – Ohnoes, not the epic of the Balloon Fence again. Its like the Beast that wouldn’t die!

  147. Thats the symbol for a sphincter, Jeff.

  148. I’m thinking balloon-fence here.

  149. Not mine, SGT Ted. Mine is a big Wal-Mart smiley face.

  150. Crap. BBH beat me to it.

  151. It was me trying not to come on your website and start throwing profanity around. You know the old expression don’t shit where you eat.

    Sorry guys I forgot that I was at the most cuntastic website evah and profanity is encouraged.

  152. @sses=Ebonics meets texting.

  153. Shit, was that out loud?

  154. Oh, I almost forgot. Electric Cunt Orchestra!

  155. Not mine, SGT Ted. Mine is a big Wal-Mart smiley face.

    Oh, The Diversity!

    That’s why America is strong.

  156. Well that and low low prices.

  157. @ #150: Can we please leave John Cole out of this?

  158. #138 …

    Hood … Your nipples are dragging.

  159. Jeff, did the solution come to you in a dream, or can you share what you were drinking at the time. Because I’m buying a case and opening an idea house – drink a shot, have a revelation.

    I’ll corner the market on teh smaRtZ.

  160. I didn’t know cluelessness could stack that high.

    How am I clueless?

  161. Add Dave E to the list of the denounced, and condemned.

  162. Wait, that WalMart comment rings a bell…Oh! that new logo thingy.

  163. Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/8 @ 12:40 pm #

    How am I clueless?

    Irony meter pegged…

  164. @ #159

    I didn’t realize I had come so close to summoning him.

  165. - “Theres a REASON you’ve never seen road rage on a Greyhound bus.”

    – We provide the convenience of an on duty Coroner. Three gurneys, no waiting.

  166. - Obama’s new universal health plan. Snuff all the LA street people. Health costs will drop 35% across the board.

  167. Mr. Pink, how does it feel to be a wiffle ball?

    But, a pink wiffle ball. Wearing a halibut diaper pinned on by a swordfish.

    Doesn’t that hurt?

  168. Yes I agree it is ironic having someone ask the question “How am I clueless”. I guess I am not smart enough to see the actions the owner of the site has taken in the past couple of weeks as teh fantastic. Telling people you want to quit is great really. Really I should go in the corner and ground myself.

  169. You people and your mocking of the mile hight dirt berm and the balloon fence. Mock, mock, mock, but not one of you with the balls to try it.

  170. I guess I am not smart enough to see the actions the owner of the site has taken in the past couple of weeks as teh fantastic.

    No, the problem is that you aren’t smart enough to see that you aren’t smart enough to see.

    Wow. It’s like a serpent eating its own tail, that sentence is. Groovy.

  171. “Mobius stripped” for all to see.

  172. EG,

    Wasn’t there also the Chinese Army using shipping containers to invade LA?

  173. I figure we could at least build a conceptual model of it, like that guy and his chicken wire twin towers. Then we could launch tiddleywinks or those ants in the pants thingees at it to see if the concept is sound.

    Now all we need is the funding.

  174. PMain

    I think there was, but I’m not sure how we could prove out that concept without getting arrested. And probably pissing off some Chinese people.

  175. - Just for shits and giggles, the AP is reporting that Edwards just admitted to the affair. The question of paternity is still up in the air. Bye bye VP slot.

    – Any comment Barrett?

  176. Ah, turgid memories of alphie/monkeyboy, poster child fot Teh Obtuse!

    Yes, Mr. Pink (probably the color of your ass cheeks right about now) alphie/monkeyboy was certain that, despite numerous professional opinions about the Chinese Army’s lack of ability to project power, they would herd their divisions into shipping containers and ride them across the Pacific until landing at the pier. The Port of LA would fall and the rest of California would follow.

    I believe that a/m was also responsible for the the lovely comparison of military personnel and welfare recipients.

    The denseness: It was strong in that one.

  177. Jeff what would you think if every week or so I came in here and started telling you I “quit” or that “I.am.done.with.this.”?

    Well besides being very happy to have your blog free from my stupidity and homophobia of course.

  178. BJTexas what are you talking about? Only thing I could get out of that is you think I am dense.

  179. Mr. Pink, to really make that work, you must first start a blog, and build it into a thriving community that can withstand your own prolonged absences (including one that saw the site completely shut down for more than a year, and then fire right up as soon as you resumed).

    Unless you build a comparable groundwork, there can be no comparison.

  180. So goes the shocking climax of the second season.

  181. Thanks for your input McGehee. Really you are the first one to give me a response since I voiced a disagreement that did not include a swordfish. Thank you.

  182. I look forward to your return, Jeff. Your talent at attempting to restore the meaning of words rendered useless by the left is awesome, yet entertaining. “You have chosen wisely”.

  183. Mr. Pink: The Denseness comment was referring to said alphie/monkeyboy, not you.

    Got paranoia?

  184. Kill the chicken. Let the monkey watch.

  185. - I guess this means Edwards is officially under the MagicBusâ„¢, and the NYT will now be forcrd to run an OpEd piece about how John wasn’r really a good Komrad anyway.

  186. Jeff what would you think if every week or so I came in here and started telling you I “quit” or that “I.am.done.with.this.”?

    I’d think you were on the dope! I mean, you don’t even work here!

  187. Nipple.

    OK, I was outside, but I heard that.

    Is Megyn Kelley here?

  188. Sorry then BJ. If you read upthread a little you will see the clubbing I was getting if you want to see why I was a little paranoid.

  189. @ #183: Well, my cats already ate the swordfish. Would you settle for a can of chunk light dolphin?

  190. I’d think you were on the dope! I mean, you don’t even work here!

    Well if I was on dope right now I would probably have the munchies from hell for some swordfish.

  191. - Gawd. what is this whiney bitch month.

    – Man up people, damn.

  192. “Clubbing”?

    Listen, if you came to my actual house, wearing a “Mr Pink” mask, and started loudly voicing your opinions about me, you’d soon find yourself ass over elbows in the shrubbery.

    So why do you think it okay to voice that kind of thing here, when you clearly don’t have a requisite frame of reference from which to draw?

    I mean, it is okay — but the end result is that you get clubbed like a baby seal. Why do you think that is?

  193. sans pea coat, FWIW.

  194. - But wait. Its ok. He didn’t start the affair until his wife was in remission.

    – Oh. Ok. Then never mind.

  195. There ya go, Mr. P: when you start your blog call it “Club Baby Seals.”

  196. I guess I dont read all the posts and comments, so I missed all this. So much drama on the blog!

    We have a forum instead, and I dont read the comments, so none of it bothers me. Try that method, I find it very unstressful and it allows me more time to surf for… um.. information on the web. that’s also why I dont read the comments here, either.

  197. You’re missing out by not reading the comments here, docweasel . Lots of bright folk drop by this here town.

  198. - Do they still make clubs for baby seals? I thought they had switched to running Zambonni machines over the ice and then sweeping them up like grey pancakes.

  199. Like crossbows, BBH. For the purists.

  200. Karl might be touchy but it wouldn’t hurt to have banned the loser who was ripping on him constantly. What does the blog gain by having him, versus losing Karl? It’s a net loss.

  201. I guess this means Edwards is officially under the MagicBus™, and the NYT will now be forcrd to run an OpEd piece about how John wasn’r really a good Komrad anyway.

    How will the LAT protect Obama Elizabeth now?

  202. Jimmie when someone keeps telling you they quit every other day are they not acting like a child?

    If it kept happening every other day then I certainly would tell them to either shit or get off the pot. However, Jeff hasn’t done that regularly every other day.

    He has, however, been pretty damned forthright with what he’s planned to do and, more importantly, with the reasons for his decisions. He’s given a lot more information than I or a lot of other people would have, including someone so reticent to give out personal information that he posts under a pseudonym.

    Perhaps you could consider that, then, to quote Will smith, get up off of his ass about it.

    As for not posting under my real name what would be the difference it is not like you would know me.

    For one, it would make you look a lot less silly. Like I said, you’re giving a guy serious heat who has told us a lot more about his life than you have about yours. But it’s still not enough for you.

  203. I’ve been lurking for nearly a year – basically since Jeff’s Rockies humiliated my Phillies & the guest bloggers took over the site. Nothing against the gb’s, but they’re not why I bookmarked PW.

    I’ll be thrilled when PW returns to its previous state. Whether I’ll have anything useful to say when it does…

    Jeff, have a snootful of Laphroaig (still favor the Balvenie, meself) and DON’T CHECK THE NL STANDINGS!

  204. Principle, Christopher? Thor, in between bouts of serious psychosis, brings teh goods at times. He’s just kind of, a dick.

  205. - Well its like a wake on the cable news shows….Even on FOX. Geraldene Ferraro is practically in tears.

    – Maybe after enough of the golden idols take a fall, a tiny bit of that moral compass thing might start looking pretty good again.

    – No Convention, Where goeth his delegates?

  206. Balvenie? Now, here’s a guy/gal that needs to comment more. A very, very decent head on those shoulders. The Doublewood is my personal favorite.

  207. Thanks for your input McGehee. Really you are the first one to give me a response since I voiced a disagreement that did not include a swordfish. Thank you.

    Hey now. That’s not fair. I specifically mentioned a halibut.

  208. Jeffy,
    I just resigned a contentious committee after chairing it for three years because I felt like a baby sitter in a ward, not like a partner in a production.

    Man, the day I resigned (and told the whole bunch to f__k off, it felt like I immediately lost 200 pounds and got my teeth professionally whitened.

    So…I know how you feel right now.

    …Nothing against Karl, or Dan, or Darleen of course. My only request is, please unleash the armadillo and bring back those red pills you found in the folds of the sofa. The combo makes me feel horny!

    Cheers!

  209. ‘Balvenie?’

    Give me Oban or give me death.

    No Oban? Just kidding. Really, don’t kill me. I’ll just have a martini.

  210. What does the blog gain by having him, versus losing Karl? It’s a net loss.

    Karl decided to leave. I am not Karl. Take it up with him.

    Thing is, I feel today there’s been a net gain — specifically, that I no longer have to deal with being a “manager.” Which means I no longer have to worry about how to traverse the great thor / Karl divide. The content may suffer for the site having been downsized, but my stomach no longer will.

    I value my stomach. It likes spicy things, and that’s increasingly rare.

  211. I wonder which of Edward’s 2 Americas it’s okay to cheat on your cancer stricken wife, w/ another woman & new born in the same hotel room… probably the same where the National Enquirer has more journalistic integrity than the NYT, LAT, WT & all the networks.

  212. Comment by Jeff G. on 8/8 @ 1:25 pm #

    “Clubbing”?

    Listen, if you came to my actual house, wearing a “Mr Pink” mask, and started loudly voicing your opinions about me, you’d soon find yourself ass over elbows in the shrubbery.

    So why do you think it okay to voice that kind of thing here, when you clearly don’t have a requisite frame of reference from which to draw?

    I mean, it is okay — but the end result is that you get clubbed like a baby seal. Why do you think that is?

    Wow you yell at a guy about emailing you threats of physical violence then you go and tell me you “would club me like a baby seal”. Good job man way to be a f#cking hypocrite. I never once started cussing at you, I never once said anything about an actual fist fight, and I did not even insult you other than saying “grow the f up” until after you started insulting me. Yet you rip me, tell me to stop s#cking someone off, tell me to shove a sword fish up my but, and call me a homophobe.

    You are a hypocrite and a juvenile with anger issues. Maybe you should stop cycling on freakin winstrol and take some yoga classes instead of MMA to help chill yourself out.

  213. - Guess the National Enquirer will be officially off the whipping boy list ib the press world now.

    – “Mr. Young, one of Edwards staff aides, lied about being the one that had the affair with Ms Hunter, taking one for the team to cover for Edwards.”

  214. PS I actually thought better of you than to think you would resort to telling me you would “beat me up”. Shows what I know.

    When you referenced the “old” PW were you talking about a place for 6th graders who talk about meeting by the monkey bars after school for a fistfight?

  215. - Pink. You’re having a bad fish day. Its a blog, not Gone with the wind. Get a grip.

    – Besides, you’re f’king up the pentameter of my Edwards thing over here.

  216. Sorry BBH I find online comments about beating someone up in “real life” f@cking stupid and they really piss me off. Plus he was just on this thread complaining about recieving threats of violence then he goes posts one to me.

  217. WTF is he going to do for an encore tell me his dad could beat up my dad?

  218. When you referenced the “old” PW were you talking about a place for 6th graders who talk about meeting by the monkey bars after school for a fistfight?

    You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about dude, the fact you don’t understand what the “old PW” means is like a neon side on your forehead blinking
    I AM BASICALLY A DUMBASS BUT I CAN’T STFU LOLOL!!1!
    You are new here, if you really want to discuss this go back in the archives a couple years and see what the site was originally like. Or keep making a fool of yourself by arguing about shit you don’t know, it is kind of humorous.

  219. WTF is he going to do for an encore tell me his dad could beat up my dad?

    WTF are you going to do drop off a really, really angry note after lunch, but before PE?

  220. Maybe after enough of the golden idols take a fall, a tiny bit of that moral compass thing might start looking pretty good again.

    I don’t know. Monica, Gennifer, Paula et al didn’t seem to hurt Bill Clinton’s popularity too much. Last I heard Bill was over in Africa lecturing them on the importance of monogamy. I guess Bubba’s lecture is coming a little too late for Obama’s dad, though.

  221. You are a hypocrite and a juvenile with anger issues. Maybe you should stop cycling on freakin winstrol and take some yoga classes instead of MMA to help chill yourself out.

    Yeah, that’s not going to move the conversation forward. Much.
    Just sayin.
    I mean I’m not saying, I’m just sayin is all.

  222. Please BBH more Edwards stuff. Maybe you will stir Jeff up to do the same. We’re waiting with baited breath.

  223. Bmoe I was not being serious when referencing the “old” PW. I do not know what Jeff was talking about when he said it and never claimed to.

    I AM BASICALLY A DUMBASS BUT I CAN’T STFU LOLOL!!1!

    I do not consider myself a dumbass for not being a reader of this blog for years on end but you are free to do that. The owner of this blog referenced the “old” PW, I took his comments on this thread as returning to such. Those comments involve swordfish, oral sex, and just now a fistfight.

  224. - Pink, I give you my word JG isn’t going to whack you like a painted midget whore caught in a trash compactor.

    – Jeff is just in “one of those moods”. He’d never actually accost anyone. His hands are registered weapons, for writing visceral breath taking horror pieces. In fact his publisher threatened to burn all the galleys of his book if he caught him beating up any more customers.

    – So relax. Hes safely chained in a back storage room at Barnes and Noble.

  225. Mr. Pink doesn’t like you, Jeff, yet he can’t quit you. It’s a problem. I would advise him to lurk more and comment less, for a while, until he gets the hang of things here. But my advice seems to go unheeded quite a lot, so I won’t waste my breath.

  226. Comment by Jeff G. on 8/8 @ 10:53 am #

    Time for me to fuck some brothers up!

    Racist!â„¢

    Denounced!1!twelveminusone

    Serious: I always thought Link-meister Karl was the perfect counterpoint for Jeff, and I’ll be disappointed to see him stop posting if he doesn’t do so at the Pub (what he does at Claudepate being quite different, though equally entertaining to us indie rock freaks). His PW series on the media’s coverage of Iraq (“The Big Pictures”), which is proved more spot-on by the day, will put him in the Hall of Fame when he hangs up his spikes. You just don’t find rigorous, meaty chunks like what we have been treated to by Jeff and Karl on poli-blogs, where sophomoric one-line insults and plastic Greenwalds-ian misdirection pass for serious argument.

  227. Roland THTG I pretty much gave up after swordfish and the “go suck off Karl” comment. After that if you can believe it the posts have gotten steadily more juvenile from both sides. This last one about “beating me up” just ended any last little bit of civility I was attempting to display.

  228. Baited Breath. heh.

  229. The owner of this blog referenced the “old” PW, I took his comments on this thread as returning to such. Those comments involve swordfish, oral sex, and just now a fistfight.

    He also routinely references dolphins in peacoats, converses with sea monkeys, bowls of oatmeal, Billy Jack, Leif Garret and Shannon Elizabeths tits.

    Just so you don’t faint dead away from shock.

  230. Classic PW is a lot of acrobatic acerbics, Merry Pinkster. One of my favorites..

    Then, just go forwards or backwards. For a week or so.

  231. Pink:
    You seem like a decent enough fellow, but you’re being a douchebag about this. Not to mention incredibly petulant. It’s his fucking sandbox, he can do what he wants. Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You don’t ‘get’ a say, your snarky opinion doesn’t ‘matter,’ and you don’t ‘deserve’ explanations. And everytime you open your mouth about it, Jeff gives you a new ‘mushroom mark.’

    If your that upset, split. Or stay and let it the fuck go.

  232. - And just for maggie, if shes feeling left out – kittens.

  233. Now do you know why all the neighbors call me a f*cking madwoman? I say, “No, the big dishes go on the outside rack” and at 3 am he’s still like, “No, the reason they make the prongs shorter on the inside rack…”

  234. Wow you yell at a guy about emailing you threats of physical violence then you go and tell me you “would club me like a baby seal”.

    That was metaphorical. You are getting clubbed like a baby seal here, in this and other threads. And recall, it was YOU who said you were getting “clubbed.” Do you not remember your own words?

    Good job man way to be a f#cking hypocrite. I never once started cussing at you, I never once said anything about an actual fist fight, and I did not even insult you other than saying “grow the f up” until after you started insulting me.

    I said nothing about an actual fistfight. Again, I was speaking metaphorically in one case, and analogically in the other.

    Dude. Have a sip of beer or something.

    Yet you rip me, tell me to stop s#cking someone off, tell me to shove a sword fish up my but, and call me a homophobe.

    Well, in fairness, if I didn’t rip you, the swordfish likely would have. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

    You are a hypocrite and a juvenile with anger issues. Maybe you should stop cycling on freakin winstrol and take some yoga classes instead of MMA to help chill yourself out.

    I don’t know what winstrol is, or even what “cycling” means, in this context.

    And really, I think by your reactions you are showing who has anger issues here — not to mention, who happens to be dumber than a bag full of, like, really, really dumb things.

  235. Mr. Pink, you need to learn to read for comprehension. Seriously. The “getting clubbed like a baby seal” is a reference to you continuing to argue from ignorance. It was not a threat to beat you up.

  236. Lamontyoubigdummy I never told him what to do with his website, not like I could anyway.

  237. Too late again.

  238. Mr Pink has got to be a put on.

    Is that you, witheld?

  239. Hang in there, Mr. Pink. I’m rooting for you! Hey did you know if you changed the P to an O you would be Mr. Oink? That would be funny.

  240. Shit, my son just stole him some Jello pudding from the fridge.

    No worries, though. I got him in a thai clinch and leveled him with a few inside elbows, then took him down with a nice double leg and slapped on the half Boston crab spine lock.

    That’ll teach the little fuck who owns the Jello pudding in THIS crib.

    GO WINSTROL!

  241. “I said nothing about an actual fistfight. Again, I was speaking metaphorically in one case, and analogically in the other.”

    How else does a normal person take the words if you came to my house “you’d soon find yourself ass over elbows in the shrubbery.” followed up quickly with “club you like a baby seal”? I guess I am too dumb to get your metaphorical and analogical meanings.

    As for your “you are stupid and teh dumb” comments, yeah I do not have a PHD and I am a terrible writer I admit it. I can not spell worth a damn too. Sue me.

  242. “Mr Pink has got to be a put on.”

    Mr. Pink is the hysterical broad in ‘Airplane!’ who won’t shut the fuck up.

  243. I am not a put on. Until today I would have considered myself a fan of this website and a far below average commentator on it. Now I guess I get to sit in the corner singing the theme song from “Flipper” while pleasuring myself with sea animals.

  244. Comment by happyfeet on 8/8 @ 2:37 pm #

    Hang in there, Mr. Pink. I’m rooting for you! Hey did you know if you changed the P to an O you would be Mr. Oink? That would be funny.

    I realized about 5 seconds in that this could not be a “win” in any way for me. Smart money would not be to root for me.

  245. “A baby Presidential seal walks into a club and the bar keep says ‘Wheres Obama’?”

    – Reporter to George McGovern: “Do you think Edwards should attend the convention?”

    – McGovern: “Well. I’ll just be a by-stander at the Convention….I’m not a marriage consular, so my feeling id everyone should just stay clear of this situation.”

    – Both Presidential campaignx have yet to weigh in.

  246. you’re really not doing too bad there, Mr. P… dodge and weave, dodge and weave. Also I just spent ten minutes googling Kill the chicken. Let the monkey watch … I’m guessing that Spengler person sorta popularized that one. Still a little unclear on what it means though. My friend D doesn’t know either.

  247. How else does a normal person take the words if you came to my house “you’d soon find yourself ass over elbows in the shrubbery.” followed up quickly with “club you like a baby seal”? I guess I am too dumb to get your metaphorical and analogical meanings.

    That was an analogy. See, if you came to my actual house, wearing a mask, and starting bashing me in front of my guests, I’d throw your ass out, and you’d probably land upside down in the shrubbery. Just the way I’ve got things landscaped.

    Yet you do the same thing here in my (cyber) house, and expect not to get “clubbed” — clubbed being your word for what was happening to you, with my response being an extension of YOUR metaphor.

    As for your intelligence, you need not have letters after your name to provide some hint of a completely adequate brain. You just need to be able to read for comprehension, and understand what others are saying to you.

    Alas, you have shown neither.

  248. WINSTROL!

    DIE, YOU PUDDING THIEVING RUG RAT!

  249. oh. penises. You can eat them. This came through messenger just now. About the tasty penises. They make you feel rich and powerful. When you eat them. See I warned you about these Olympics.

  250. Re #246:

    I realized about 5 seconds in that this could not be a “win” in any way for me. Smart money would not be to root for me.

    Now that’s the first thing you’ve said right.

  251. I do not consider myself a dumbass for not being a reader of this blog for years on end but you are free to do that.

    I consider you a lazy dumbass for refusing to look through the archives to see what people mean. It’s all there.

    The beatings are for your own good. Really.

  252. Spengler did put that one down to the Chinese for sure, hf. I think they eat monkeys in China. At least I’ve heard stories about monkeys being eaten. Though maybe it is one of those “in the old days” kind of eating monkeys.

  253. …Sorry, what? I wasn’t, um, listening….

    …Man that’s some good shit.

  254. - If Obama goes on to lose this election 2 will get you 5 the historians will blame it on that gutter ball.

    – ABC has the exclusive interview which will air on late-late news.

    – I question the timing.

  255. Which, given that they eat penises wouldn’t be that surprising. Eating monkeys, I mean.

  256. The metaphorical clubbing you’re getting will stop as soon as you start figuring things out. For that, you should read the archives, which are handily grouped by category if you prefer, links in the left column. “The Martha Stuart Chronicles” are a fan favorite, but if you want to get some condensed content, the “Red Pills Found Behind the Sofa Cushions” series is recommended. Perhaps you will want to peruse the comments on those posts to get a flavor for the way things work here.

    Or not. I’ve been coming here for years, I really don’t know how many. I didn’t jump in to the comments until I understood the blog language. I think you don’t understand the blog language here is all.

  257. Principle, Christopher? Thor, in between bouts of serious psychosis, brings teh goods at times. He’s just kind of, a dick.

    What principle would that be? The blog loses by losing Karl (and, for the moment, other guest bloggers) and keeping Thor. That’s a poor exchange, from where I sit, no matter how Thor can occasionally offer something useful. Commenters are good for the health of a blog, but Protein Wisdom hardly is suffering in that department. Losing one to keep a good writer is a net gain from where I sit.

  258. #232:

    Commentator: “You left out Hegemony.”

    JeffG: “Argh! How could I leave out Hegemony? Must add!”

    Great, great stuff!

  259. The blog may or may not lose by losing Karl. It certainly loses a seminal aspect from one of its incarnations, I’ll grant you that. And it will likewise lose the kind of mainstream traffic Karl was adept at attracting — as well as the commenters who came along with it.

    But again, Karl’s leaving was Karl’s call. At least initially. Now it’s mine, and I feel relieved about having made it.

  260. happyfeet – 251 almost made me have an accident.

  261. Those aren’t just penises those are expensible penises, JD. So they’re even tastier.

  262. - This DNC memo just came through.

    To: All Democratic voters
    From: DNC headquarters
    Subject: Random extra-marrital activities

    Dear supporters,

    The new standard for all extra-marrital activities are as follows:

    1) No redevous on American soil.
    2) Only manage du’ duex if wife’s cancer is in remission.
    3) Any sensational leaks go directly to ABC, NBC, or CNN. No responce to the National Inquirer.
    4) Press will continue to treat any leaks or photos as non-news.

    Cordially – H. Dean

    – Edwards just issued a 5000 word statement, writen almost like hes a lawyer.

    – excerpts:

    “99% honest is not honest enough”

    “I am willing to take any test necessary to prove I am not the father of the child….”

    “If you want to beat me up then feel free, I’ve beaten myself up enough already”

    “…narcissistic and egotistical…”

    “…betrayed my family and my ideals…”

    “….I will not talk about this again.”

  263. What does “Joomla Wrist” mean?

  264. - By “99% honest”, I take it to mean the only thing about the affair he lied about was having the affair. Other than that he was above board.

  265. Everybody’s blog is nobody’s blog. I have very much missed the continuity of your voice throughout the posts.

  266. -gail!

  267. You have no idea how good it feels being able to say you no longer can concern yourself with the disparate feelings of so many people.

    Bingo. Do what you do and never, ever stoop to the ever-present idiots. Ignore them. Utterly. They do not exist. They may not, as far as you’re concerned.

    Why is this the only recourse? Because it saves your heart and soul and with it, enhances your output. Those two points cannot be overstated. My best to Karl, insofar that Republicans vs Democrats matters, which it rarely does, and the rest of us can — and should — hang at the Pub or in the comments. If it were me, I’d close the logins at PW and move em to the Pub.

    Anyway. So ignore it/them, Jeff, or don’t waste the time rolling up your sleeves again. Stress’ll kill ya and bullshit, well, you get the picture.

  268. What does “Joomla Wrist” mean?

    Me, I’m guessing it’s some sort of Hindu masturbation technique.

  269. Joomla is a template to create websites. The “wrist” reference is just a pointer to the test site.

  270. Daddy, please come home. And never, never drink again.

  271. Maybe Edwards was watching while he combed his hair. Or was banging the banger. Simple adultery I say is not good enough for that hairdo.

  272. Methinks that Edwards is not going to find a happy, attentive crowd when he attempts to sell the “wife in remission” disclaimer.

    I wonder what Amanda has to say about this?

  273. - I just had a feeling that new O! salute was not going to lead to great things.

  274. bbh, what are you typing on? Smartphone? Megaphone? Sousaphone?

    Your last few comments have been almost nishi-esque…

  275. Thanks cranky-d. For a minute I thought someone was making an unkind remark about Tony’s wrist. Glad it not the case. For the unkind remarker’s wrists’s sake.

  276. I wonder if Karl has sought to hang his shingle up anywhere else.

  277. He’ll wind up with Hot Air, or over at Ace’s. Or maybe Townhall. Or doing a regular column for Pajamas or some such.

    I wish him well. But I’ve never been really good with ultimatums. Something about them making me feel put upon.

  278. Not surprisingly, Amanda forgives Edwards because of the “lack” of hypocrisy. (emphasis mine)

    My official stance is that unless it’s a matter of hypocrisy, it’s none of your damn business. So, if someone has a history of dogging gay people, prostitutes, people who have sex outside of marriage, etc., their business is now public property because they treat your business like it’s public property. Edwards, as far as I know, has never been a “sanctity of marriage” wanker, and so this is officially None Of Our Business, and anyone who dogged him on this story should be fired on the principle that they don’t know journalism from rooting around in the trash. Hypocrisy is a story; human weakness is not.

    I’m not going to get on a high horse about his judgment, because he didn’t get on a high horse with me about mine. That’s all I’m going to say about that.

    Can you see it? As long as you don’t moralize about other peoples’ bad habits and judgments then you have the radical feminist equivalent of carte blanche to humiliate your cancer stricken wife and family and everyone should STFU and the journalists that report it all should be fired.

    Ah, the convenience of moral equivalency! It shines bright like a friggin’ laser beam! You just can’t make this stuff up.

  279. It shines bright like a friggin’ laser beam!

    Is it mounted on a shark’s head?

  280. Karl should blog at Just One Minute is what I think. Mr. Maguire, he seems to travel a lot. And he’s very nice.

  281. - Jim – I’m trying to live blog Edwards moment to moment “life adjustment”. Pink finally stopped moving, so I assume JG stopped clubbing him to attend to the midget pudding thief, and a few were asking for more sensational details.

    – After what he and Kerry tried to do to Cheney’s daughter, coupled with all the insufferable “holier than thou” speeches delivered by the Silky pony, in view of what he was up to behind the scenes, the people I have compassion for in all this is his wife and family.

    – That, and this Barcardi purple lable is the cats ass.

  282. Not to mention Edwards did get on his high moral horse when the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal broke. So by Amanda’s way of thinking (or not thinking) it is hypocrisy so it’s precisely time to jump on her high horse and tell Edwards off for the hypocrite he is. “As far as I know,” she says. I guess Edwards did teach her something. And Amanda is teachable. Who would’ve thought.

  283. Damn. Just damn. Over the last few months I’d go back through the archives and read old threads to try to remember what this place used to be like.

    That feeling? It’s back.

  284. Hey did you know if you changed the P to an O you would be Mr. Oink? That would be funny

    I LOLed, and other people at the airport stared at me.

    At least nothing came squirting out my nose this time. It’s because, for once, I wasn’t drinking anything.

  285. That was an analogy. See, if you came to my actual house, wearing a mask, and starting bashing me in front of my guests, I’d throw your ass out, and you’d probably land upside down in the shrubbery. Just the way I’ve got things landscaped.

    Yet you do the same thing here in my (cyber) house, and expect not to get “clubbed” — clubbed being your word for what was happening to you, with my response being an extension of YOUR metaphor.

    As for your intelligence, you need not have letters after your name to provide some hint of a completely adequate brain. You just need to be able to read for comprehension, and understand what others are saying to you.

    Alas, you have shown neither.

    This is not your house. It is a blog on the internet that anyone can read. It does not require a private email address or password. YOU post your personal opinions on here and then solicit comments from readers. I was commenting on one of your opinions, at that point you told me to fuck myself with a swordfish and suck Karl’s cock. If it is too fuckin stressful for you to do this whole blogging thing without acting like a God damn asshole, you could always you know do what you keep saying your going to do and quit or take that longggggggggggggg break that seems to last 3 days at maximum. Log off the computer and go watch ESPN.

    You refer to this website as your house, sorry I misunderstood. I did not know that I was smashing your china by telling you to grow up.

  286. hf,

    In the context of my comment in this thread: Dadaism

    In general: Killing the chicken is unavoidable. If you let the monkey watch you kill the chicken the deterrent effect might spare you the need to kill the monkey too.

  287. - Marcotte has her nose so firmly planted in the ass of the Left, she’s flailing for strawmen to erect for cover. Anything is permissible, anything is excusable, nothing is shameful or wrong, including rape, or extra narrital affairs behind your terminal wifes back, just as long as theres no discernible connection to something Conservative.

    – And the fact he did it while running for VP is no ones f’king business!

    – Rationalizing…”Its whats for dinner”.

  288. Pink–the site design, hosting, and bandwidth cost money, so it is Jeff’s house. He’s kind of paying the mortgage on it, you might say.

  289. This is not your house. It is a blog on the internet that anyone can read. It does not require a private email address or password.

    Ya think? Try commenting now.

    I suggest if you can’t get through you contact the department of “it’s on the interwebs, so therefore it is as much mine as his.” Ouroboros, proprietor in chief.

  290. bbh–

    Ah, live-blogging on Purple Label. I can’t listen to Edwards without earplugs, somewhat defeating the purpose anyway.

  291. Whoa! The shrubbery!

  292. Oh, and —

    If it is too fuckin stressful for you to do this whole blogging thing without acting like a God damn asshole, you could always you know do what you keep saying your going to do and quit or take that longggggggggggggg break that seems to last 3 days at maximum. Log off the computer and go watch ESPN.

    You refer to this website as your house, sorry I misunderstood. I did not know that I was smashing your china by telling you to grow up.

    CUSS WORDS! EEEEEEEEK!

  293. I think Mr Pink bypassed the Halibut and went straight for the Big Mouthed Bass.

    Ah, the arrogance of youth.

  294. Off to get some chores done.

    MPink has posted here under several IPs today, so I guess he could find his way back on. If he does, though, I’ll nuke his comments until he emails me a 200 word essay on how, in fact, it is quite evident that this is my blog.

  295. - Several IP’s huh. So then is this the latest angle on thread jacking. The all new “Plleeeeaze don’t taz me bro” approach?

  296. Jeez – Jeff, this feels like the Andrew Sullivan meltdown did a few years ago. Please take a break and get yourself back together. You can do what you want with this site, but sometimes you should listen to the feedback you’re getting – it might be useful. You may not take it that way (childish name-calling seems to be the order of the day), but I really say this with all due respect.

  297. Jeez, Phil. Maybe you should read the feedback I’m getting. If you did, you might recognize that it has been overwhelmingly favorable.

    You might also recognize that I am more “together” today than I have been in some time. In fact, I feel high, man!

    All doobied up and whatnot.

    And I say that with all due respect and without any childish namecalling.

    Oh, wait. This is my site. Poopyhead.

  298. God Bless you, Mr. G.

    a final tip –> med check – stat

    oh, and cunt off.

    BOOBS to the ladies.

  299. Thanks, Aldo. I’ve a lot been that monkey before. God bless corporate America I say.

  300. No offense, Not Enoch, but taking medical advice from you is a bit like…well, taking web site implementation advice from you.

    Oh!

    (See what I did there?)

  301. THE KID IS BACK!

    …Where’s my Fonzie jacket.

  302. Well, Mr. Pink, I tried to help. You decided to escalate. If you had just left it alone, you could’ve hung around. Instead, you had to push it into the, “This isn’t your place,” territory when it most certainly is Jeff’s place. He pays for it and maintains it. That’s how blogs work.

    You probably could’ve kept up with the insults all you wanted to, but you went to one of the few wrong places you can go. Oh well.

  303. It all depends on the monkey being teachable, for sure. Bashar Assad, for instance, doesn’t seem to qualify as a teachable monkey, at least not yet.

  304. I didn’t realize this was a popularity contest – I forgot that “overwhelming favorable” feedback hides all true issues. Just ask Obama.

  305. Which one was Mr. Pink? Was he the undercover guy who ends up getting tortured?

  306. I love long rambling threads full of obscure references, some good old Dem asshattery, and the free exchange of insults.

    Racists

  307. So Mr. Pink is out of here…….and I bet he DIDN’T leave a tip.

  308. I didn’t realize this was a popularity contest

    It is. You’re not.

  309. Baracky is in Hawaii I think.

  310. “release the flaming armadillo”

    EXCELSIOR!

  311. It smells really good there in Hawaii.

  312. Christopher, definitely not speaking for Jeff as he already has, the principle that I was thinking is that Jeff doesn’t ban people unless they absolutely contribute nothing. Thor, with all his sophomoric bombast aside, does at times contribute. As Jeff said, initially it was Karl’s decision. As much as I think that Thor is an ass, he didn’t run Karl out, imo.

  313. I didn’t realize this was a popularity contest – I forgot that “overwhelming favorable” feedback hides all true issues.

    Oh. Well, you can probably see why I was confused, then. After all, wasn’t it you who wrote

    You can do what you want with this site, but sometimes you should listen to the feedback you’re getting – it might be useful.

    I assumed by that you meant some sort of preponderance of “the feedback” I’m getting, not just “listen to Phil’s feedback, which Phil talks about generally as if it were the feedback of others, but really it is mostly his, and you should listen.”

    I stand corrected and in meldownias res.

    POOPY!

  314. Jeff: It was clear two weeks ago that you were jealous of all the traffic Karl was generating. This a charade–a bullshit charade. Why didn’t you just tell the guest posters you were going it alone quietly and take back the site without all this acrimony? It would have been a classier move and would have saved a lot of hard feelings. You’re being offensive to, and hurting readers and co-bloggers who have been among your staunchest supporters. I’ve lost all respect for you. You’re an incredibly talented writer, but you have miles to go in some respects. Please feel free to tell to tell me fuck off in some wildly creative fashion. I won’t be reading. It’s sad. I’ve read you for years.

  315. Oh, just fuck Delta Airlines. I’ve now been delayed, so I miss my connection back to Orlando.

    Fucking Delta.

  316. I’ve been reading and loving PW a long time, and though I’ve never really commented, I think it’s time.

    I assume you started this blog to have people read it and to grow said readership? I’d think that as an intelligent person you could’ve easily predicted that there were going to be people who would attack you, your thoughts and ideas, and, given the choice to become something of a public figure (to whatever degree that’s possible on a blog on the Internet), those with which you’ve chosen to surround yourself. And that’s all a stress? Well, sorry, but you can’t pray for rain and then complain when it does. It’s like celebrities bitching and moaning about the celebrity press. You choose something, you had better be ready to deal with all of the attendant consequences. Didn’t you ask the guest bloggers to essentially keep this site going while you wouldn’t/couldn’t? And then you don’t like having to deal with the inevitable problems that go along with the chief and Indians not being one in the same? Come on now. You coming back, and with a new vigor? Fan-freakin’-tastic, but just get on with it without all the whining.

    And I sure hope Karl sticks around, wherever that may be. Without him I very likely wouldn’t have. Either way, good luck in all your current and future endeavors, and give all my best to the wife and boy.

  317. What airport Slart?

    Oh and

    St Pepper’s Lonely Cunt’s Club Band

  318. Sargent. Unless they’ve been sainted.

    CUNT IT ALL!!

  319. Oh, Old Nick, you misread me, too. Pity, that.

    I’m not jealous of anyone’s traffic-generating abilities. Should I put my mind to it, I could generate that kind of traffic all by my lonesome (and, in fact, I have). Thing is, I’m just not interested in writing those kinds of posts. Karl was good at them. Which is why I was pushing them before he ever took up semi-permanent residence here.

    No, I have been torn between leaving for good, or retaking the site and turning it back into what I wanted it to be — and one of the considerations was the guest bloggers who had put in so much work. I didn’t have the heart to ask them to leave until the nonsense of the last couple days.

    I didn’t ask Karl to leave. There’s no charade, and no set up. That was Karl’s call.

    As to the other guest bloggers, what acrimony? I just emailed Dan, I emailed Darleen earlier, JHoward and Cranky are here…the only hard feelings are Karl’s, and I’m not taking the blame for that simply because I refused to heed his ultimatum, one he had no right to drop on my plate to begin with. Not only that, but I’ve set up a connected site for anyone who wants to post.

    What a cad I am!

    Truth is, I expected some people to beat me up over this. But I can’t worry myself over that anymore. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t, is the way I figure it. But at least this way, I no longer have to feel like I owe people for jobs they wanted, and from which they’ve drawn the benefit of reaching an already established audience that I put in the work to build. I’ve said thank you enough. And I’ve been forced to genuflect far too often in the comments here recently.

    Now, it’s true that most of the guest bloggers never made me feel that way. This is not about them. But many of the commenters here have, and it started with Karl leaving because I supposedly “picked” thor over him.

    And I just wasn’t going to walk on eggshells here anymore. The site had either to be shuttered or changed.

    Sorry you’re leaving, but there’s not much I can do about it. Like Karl, that choice is yours. I’m not interested in being Dr Phil to the world. And if after all these years of reading me you believe that any of this is about petty jealousies, than you never really knew me, and never really got me.

  320. And by Sargent of course I mean Sgt. Not the guy who replaced Dick York on Bewitched and had to deal with that cunt Esmerelda.

  321. That sucks, slart. Oh hey. Old Nick. Jeez.

  322. Yes, WillWall, when I first started posting here I pictured myself in court getting restraining orders and injunctions. I pictured having muppet-wearing diaper fetishists dropping by to leer verbally at my kid, and coarse morons wishing me a slow painful death.

    Funny thing is, Karl quit because one person on this site was getting to him. The stress, you see. How could he have not seen it coming? Why, he was just asking for it, what with that short little skirt he was always wearing when thor was around…

  323. “I assumed by that you meant some sort of preponderance of ‘the feedback’ I’m getting”

    Well, your true intentions are coming through – it seems you are looking to whip up the troops to back you up. Funny, but I always thought you were someone to cut through the mob rule mentality and address real issues on their own merit. That Jeff seems to be long gone.

    My actual intent was for you to hear the feedback that is constructive, but I did not want to point out specifics – my mistake. I’ll give you a very specific feedback from someone else that I completely agree with – #316.

  324. - Mrs Edwards knew about the affair in 2006.

    – Mrs Edwards was scheduled to speak at the Convention.

    – Its probably good O! is taking a week in Hawaii.

    – Night one : Pissed off Hillery.

    – Night two: Angry Willey.

    – Night three: Betrayed Elizabeth.

    – A week in Colorado political history to remember.

  325. Maybe Angry Willy’s willy can speak as well.

  326. Negative people and the way how they suck balls on a happy sunny Friday afternoon is just not really germane I don’t think. Good tree make beautiful flower, wankers.

  327. I’m at Newport News/Williamsburg International Airport.

    Kind of a joke, really. The terminal area is about the size of my house (which, granted, is a fucking palace, but still), and seems to have forgotten to allocate space for a bar. And I could really use a pint, just now.

    Of tequila, maybe.

    My Life With The Thrill Kill Cunt

  328. My true intentions, Phil? Whip up the troops?

    Look, I’ve made public how much admire and appreciate the commenters here. But if you all want to leave, go for it. That’s what today is about. This is my site again — and I’m going to run it how I run it. Those are the real issues, and those are the merits. Nothing to do with mob rule.

    If you want to try to psychoanalyze me, have at it. You don’t know what’s in my heart or in my head. I do. And only one of us is correct.

  329. You can probably tell by my two previous comments, that I’m quite beside myself.

  330. A delayed flight and no bar? That is criminal.

  331. I only have one head of hair.

    um…

  332. PIE!

  333. I swear to God, Jeff, you attract pinheads like thor does fists.

  334. I’m at Midway and I’m people watching.

    Dexies Midnight Cunters

  335. I’m tired of naming bands. Can we do snack cakes now?

    Swiss Cunt Rolls

  336. No Cuntry for Old Fags

  337. How about that Ian Cunter?

  338. Ho Cunts

  339. And ‘feets, did you see in that China clip that dog dicks were on the menu.

    They really eat dog dicks.

  340. BRD #38

    BTW, any notion where it is the guest posters post when not posting here?

    So far this summer, when I’m not posting here, I’m not posting! At least not on politics and current events. Book-lovers might enjoy this little side project of mine, f’rinstance.

  341. Or…yanno…Sniff ‘n’ The Cunts

  342. - maggie, I sort of figured all this unrest wouldn’t sit well with you, so I left you a kitten somewhere upthread, so you would have to watch all the baby seals out clubbing for the evening.

    – Slart – you picked a “dry” area for all your travel needs. Its the base. Dry for the sailor types. They ran out of two dollar bills somewhere around 1955, so they closed all the bars. Suxor.

  343. - wouldn’t have to watch – wouldn’t.

  344. First, don’t get me wrong my friend, I’m here to stay. I’ve always enjoyed the way you actively brought the fight to those who seem to be actively attempting to hurt, if not destroy, language and, frankly, what most of us agree to be the American way of life (not to overstate). Second, sure, you certainly didn’t envision those things at the very start, but come now, you most assuredly knew that your traffic and the degree of attacks were positively correlated. Now, granted, maybe not that bad, but I think you know precisely what I mean. Third, and finally, I definitely don’t think that Karl should’ve sailed over the comments of just one person, but given all I’ve read about race here at PW over the years, I can, at the very least, see Karl’s position and how he came to it. In any case, and again, do please have, keep, and send all my best.

  345. I saw it, BBH. thanks. it’s funny how I start reading a comment and then my eyes lock up and I move on to the next one and someone quotes something and I’m all, “huh, I missed that before”

    *sigh* it’s one of those weeks.

  346. Toad the Wet Cunt
    10,000 Cunts

  347. I wish him well. But I’ve never been really good with ultimatums. Something about them making me feel put upon.

    I can’t blame you for that, and this is your show. Clearly you’re doing it well and know what you are doing given the popularity and enduring quality of Protein Wisdom proves it. I just hope both you and Karl can step back and let things cool down a bit, I suspect this is more passion and the heat of the moment than any permanent stance or personal assessment of each other.

    Certainly the grief you get for just saying your mind and analyzing situations is absurdly disproportionate to your content. Thankfully I’m so itty I get pretty well ignored by the usual suspects :)

  348. - Hillery just issued a statement:

    “My thoughts and prayers are with the Edwards family tonight.”….unquote.

  349. I most certainly did not know at the time I started what the blogosphere (which hadn’t even been named yet) would become. I didn’t know that using my real name and credentials, and divulging certain details of my life, would cause my family so many problems.

    I’ve always noted that people are free to say what they want about me. But certain methods of attack have been beyond the pale, and no, I didn’t envision them at the time they were set in motion.

    For whatever reason, I cause, in the left, a particular kind of unpleasant reaction. And they, being forced into the hate! by my incitement, have no choice but to wish me death, or intimate the rape of my child.

    Had I known that reaction was coming, I would have still used my name, but I would have guarded much more about myself than I have.

    Live and learn, I guess.

  350. - Looks like everyone is going to take McGoverns advice.

    – So far, nothing from the Obama or McCain camps.

  351. Christopher —

    I tried to get in touch with Karl yesterday. He didn’t want to talk with me by phone. Fine. Felt like a slap in the face to me, but I’m a big boy.

    I’ve been gone a long while. Lots of new folks here, many of them brought in by other writers. They will either enjoy what I do and stay, or go looking for other places to read, and other comment sections to hang out in.

    You’ll note that I no longer have sitemeter up. And that’s because I don’t want to have traffic considerations affect what I have to say or the way I wish to say it.

    Well, that, and I’ve been too lazy to reinstall the code since that IE meltdown. But the former sounds so much more noble.

  352. Everything But The Cunt

  353. Flaming Cunts

  354. Also, I’m grossly out of practice. So it’s going to take me a while to get my blog legs under me.

  355. Quite a nice slice of cuntretemps today, what Slart?

  356. Thank goodness I have Good Will Cunting on DVD, or I’d be bored out of my cunt.

  357. Elizabeth Edwards for Veep.

    FOR THE VICTIMINESS!

  358. Guys, may I join the chorus of those who are saying that they’re glad Jeff’s back because they really are glad that Jeff’s back? As I recall, a couple of years ago when I signed on, it was in hopes of plugging a hole and keeping all of us fellow commenters–many of whom became guest posters here–together in the meanwhile.

    Karl and Darleen and TSI and Craig and JHoward and I will continue to have things to say, and we’ll either say them in the Pub or elsewhere, but we’ll be in touch with you and with Jeff. None of us, as far as I know, is completely cutting himself off from the PW community.

    In my particular case, I would not be able to post often in the autumn due to my having taken on teaching two new courses in addition to my usual workload, so apart from the pleasure of having Jeff back, I’m relieved that there’s been some resolution about the site. I don’t feel that I’ve been used or shortchanged. I feel I’ve had a great opportunity to make a lot of friends and a few enemies, which in the balance is a good thing. Most of the time it’s been fun. I certainly have a better appreciation for the toll that just an iota of the abuse Jeff has suffered can exact.

    For those of you who donated in my bleg earlier this summer, I want to let you know that I reckon I still owe you, and I’m certainly not going to disappear. This was always Jeff’s stunt-cycle, and some of the people who used it probably have better tricks than I do, but he’s the one who put this puppy together.

    Thanks. I’m good with this. Real good. So please don’t feel any disappointment on my behalf. I’m not going to disappear. I’ll be doing my obnoxious thing in the Pub, or somewhere else just a click away.

  359. Iggy Cunt

  360. Bored? Beware the cuntsequent drowsing, but then you’re not driving so you’ll probably be o-kay.

  361. I will a lot miss the sitemeter. It’s a habit, and it learns me things about blogging that is useful for work.

  362. See, I was thinking that this was Jeff saying go away, and don’t come back to his various alter-Smeagols. Thanks to Dan for setting that straight.

    No, not really thinking that. It’s just that this week has driven me cunting mad.

  363. Ok, getting on the plane, now.

    On, or in. So hard to keep track. I may show up later to whine a bit more.

  364. The Unbearable Cuntness of Being

  365. Dan is right amiable. Stalwart and true, that one. But someone has to remember to link when Darleen’s podcast is ready.

  366. The Deercunter. The Cunt for Red October.

    In the sports world, the sacrifice cunt.

  367. Have a good flight, slart.

  368. On your marks. Get set. Cunt!

    Gentlemen. cunt your engines, or

    Gentlemen, start your cunts.

  369. Sticking with the baseball theme…Hatfish Cunter.

  370. We haven’t heard from cynn yet. She’ll be aghast at all this… what is her word again? Damn… I may go smoke a cigarette and try to remember. It was really a great word.

  371. Just as I’ve always understood it, Dan. Thank you for the oodles of madcap bloggage.

    Oh,, and Cunt Asylum.

  372. “If you want to try to psychoanalyze me, have at it. You don’t know what’s in my heart or in my head. I do. And only one of us is correct.”

    Funny, I learned here how your chosen language betrays your inner thoughts, and someone’s language in a debate was fair game. I am not suggesting that I know you better than you do, but I was trying to point out your inherent assumptions (number of comments equals validation) when reacting to my comment (there are some comments pointing out that you are off your game and harming people who are on your side). Are we shifting from linguistics to emotion now? Because, if so, I can go back over to Sullivan and get raw emotion driving all thought.

    Having said that, I do wish you the best, even with your scatalogical attempts to draw me into name calling.

  373. Karl, Dan, Darleen, et al. Your posts were very much appreciated, at least by me. Hopefully I’ll see y’all around elsewhere.

  374. The Cunter Purple

  375. “Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, your my only cunt.”

  376. All Quiet on the Western Cunt.

  377. Well my two cents ain’t worth a penny but I was here way before the GB’s and I basically skipped around looking for the oddball JG posts mixed amongst the sturm und drang….nothing against the GB’s – they are better than most on other blogs, so IMO were worth every post.

    But really. I mean, I need that armadillo. I want that armadillo. I’ll be back for more armadillo, or whatever.

  378. Funny, I learned here how your chosen language betrays your inner thoughts, and someone’s language in a debate was fair game.

    Hmm. What you should have learned is that an author’s chosen language can provide clues to intent, but that it can also distract from intent, if people give undo weight to the wrong bits of language, or if the author is lying.

    I am not suggesting that I know you better than you do, but I was trying to point out your inherent assumptions (number of comments equals validation) when reacting to my comment (there are some comments pointing out that you are off your game and harming people who are on your side). Are we shifting from linguistics to emotion now?

    You are missing several important things. First, there’s context. You wrote your criticism in a thread in which I had been criticized by virtually no one — the exception being Mr Pink, who has no real history of reading this site, and no real history of reading me.

    Thus, my assumption regarding your comment comes from where it was placed, and the content of the other comments that surrounded it. This has nothing at all to do with emotion and everything at all to do with a preponderance of evidence.

    A preponderance of evidence and “mob rules” are not the same thing. If you wished to point out specific comments — other than that from Mr Pink — I would have had something to consider. You didn’t.

    Besides, I don’t believe I’m off my game. I haven’t been anything but accessible and thankful toward the guest posters here. Karl’s showing up of late to play wounded soldier cast out by the meanspirited Ogre King has been ginning up this controversy, and I got sick of having to answer to it, and apologize for it — to the point where I even tried to contact Karl to satisfy those who missed him. Even when I really didn’t want to, because his leaving was HIS decision, not mine.

    So, there you have it. That’s it. I decided I no longer wished to have to do any of those things. Now, I only have to apologize for myself.

    I am Lobo. I hunt alone.

  379. I can’t remember cynn’s word. It’s there in my head I can tell. Maybe it’ll come to me later.

  380. sloshy. That’s what you people are with all your cunt this and cunting that. Downright sloshy.

  381. Comment by cranky-d on 8/8 @ 4:19 pm #

    Well, Mr. Pink, I tried to help. You decided to escalate. If you had just left it alone, you could’ve hung around. Instead, you had to push it into the, “This isn’t your place,” territory when it most certainly is Jeff’s place. He pays for it and maintains it. That’s how blogs work.

    You probably could’ve kept up with the insults all you wanted to, but you went to one of the few wrong places you can go. Oh well.

    Well I am good with the banning doesn’t really bother me at all. I really do not want to frequent the website of an egocentric child who is having a mid-life crisis anyway. Shouting I AM NOT BEHOLDEN or insults involving a swordfish while relying on the mental picture of a flaming armidillo to attract readers. Notice he had to comment on banning me, one last little spit in the face. I am sure he is really proud of banning me, then telling everyone because he has teh power, but leaving little pieces of shit like thor on here. I did not call him racist or insult his integrity, I simply told him to grow the fuck up. He needs to fuckin grow up anyway, having temper tantrums on his OWN blog and typing I AM NOT BEHOLDEN in all caps is not the sign of a grown man. Telling people he feels like he is high simply because he got rid of all his guest bloggers, who donated their own time and effort to FUCKIN HELP HIM, is not the sign of mentally stable individual. It is what a child would do.

    Jeff you do not have to bother banning me again unless you want the pleasure. I am never commenting here or reading you again. The multiple IP addresses is due to me using verizon high speed dialup, which gives me a new IP pretty much every other time I log on. It is not some “conspiracy” to hide myself.

    Not like anyone cares probably but I did like the commentators here and the content. Smartest bunch on any website I have ever read, would actually engage arguments instead of throwing around invectives. A surprise on the internet if you ask me. Hope you all enjoy whatever website you go to even if it is this one. Later.

  382. DC Comics Lobo? He had his own animated series on their site for awhile. It was sort of lame.

  383. Now, I only have to apologize for myself.

    Whadja do, fart?

  384. Smartest bunch on any website I have ever read, would actually engage arguments instead of throwing around invectives.

    Not really, we all genuflect at the altar of a petulant child god, don’t you know.

  385. BECAUSE OF THE HYPOCRISY!

    Wow. Poor Mr Pink. If only he had done his homework, he wouldn’t be getting laughed at the way he now is.

    Like I said upthread, there are some people here who just aren’t destined to make it under the new regime.

    Hell, I think that guy might have had a heart attack had he ever come across GAY PORN COCK OF LIES — or heard some of the filth coming out of the mouth of “Regis,” John Bolton’s straighttalking mustache…

  386. Ok Mr. PinkSnapper, you don’t dig swordfish – we get it.

    But crapping all over the flaming armidillo (that’s arma to you pal) is just not cool.

  387. I like how we’re destined to make it or not. I will endeavor.

  388. In keeping with today’s theme of riffing of female body parts, I AM agash, happyfeet.

  389. hey you, good to see you there

  390. As one of the guest bloggers, Mr. Pink who won’t stay banned, though perhaps the least of them, it didn’t bother me that Jeff decided to take it back as solely his own site again, as it is his site. I daresay it didn’t bother any of the rest of them either. So your outrage on our behalf is misplaced.

  391. Comment by cynn on 8/8 @ 6:00 pm #

    In keeping with today’s theme of riffing of female body parts, I AM agash, happyfeet.
    ————————-
    Now that’s funny.

  392. Oh, I only banned Mr Pink temporarily to teach him a bit about who owns the blog.

    I’ll fix that later, so that when he finally gets it, he can come back, probably under a new name, and with a new idea about what exactly is happening here.

  393. I second hf @ #391 and JimmyG @ #393.

  394. Agash. Heh.

  395. - That, and this Barcardi purple lable is the cats ass.

    Well, that’s pretty self-evident! I’ll have to try it. In the mean time, if any of you make it out to Grand Junction, stop by Peach Street Distillers. Their small batch vodka and gin are delightful, and their very first batch of bourbon-style whiskey should be ready this week. I got an early taste and it’s very nice. Their cat is pretty cool too.

    “….I will not talk about this again.”

    Ah, yes. The National Enquirer has hinted that they’ve got more and better coming soon on this story. Now Silky can counter anything further with ‘this is old news!’ and act put upon.

    Oh, and the battle axe was methaphor, the baby seal club was very real.

  396. see the final straw
    Jeff rises from the ashes
    PW is reborn

  397. - Ok, its the dynamic addy thing. Nothing personal Pink, but ban evasion is usually not met by the site owner with huggies.

    – And at any rate there are ways to handle that also. But you had your say. Which in itself says a lot about Jeff and his patience.

    – BTW, again you jump the shark concerning modes of expression in mentioning all caps wordage style.

    – You said you were impressed to some degree with the intelligence of this blog community. One of the unspoken aspects of “its” character, which I will now type out loud for you, is the idea that every regular on this site is comfortable enough in their own intellectual skins (I won’t go to the physical because I promised McGehee not hurt his feelings anymore), that they feel ok with letting down their hair and just expressing themselves, no holds barred. Some is deep and emotional sharing, some hilarious bullshit parody, lampooning the childish immature nature of the Lefts stereotypes of everything not Left that helps them get through the night (they never thank us for that service), but all of it is free flow, with the emphasis on free, and it is so because of Jeffs wide tolerance and inherent acceptance of everyones contributions and ideas, re pleat with warts. thor is a temporal example of that, but theres a long history of such ongoing tolerance on Jeffs part. Indeed PW is a magnet for the Lefts worst actors because they fine freedom of expression where they cannot in the echo chambers they call blogs.

    – You see a childish temper tantrum. I see a man who has put up with more shit in the five or so years I’ve been coming here than most people deal with in a fucking lifetime, when you narrow it down to communal aspects of group stress.

    – You’ll excuse me if I say you’re finding cause and effect at a level of understanding that approaches trying to describe an Elephant with the evidence of one of his ass hairs.

    – In other words, as others, including Jeff himself have tried to educate you too, you’re out of line, over the line, and just plain wrong.

    – Even now I’m guessing if you’d pull in your horns you could continue on here as if nothing had happened. I tried earlier to get you to self-suss and stop emoting.

    – You declined. It looks seriously as if you’ve taken a position and in spite of the greater experience of others concerning the facts of your concern, you chose belligerence.

    – Who exactly is into childishness again?

    – You jump the shark, you step back, take a breath, laugh at yourself, and forget it.

    – Not “just saying”. Specifically saying.

  398. That was Not Freudian. Never, ever, ever touched the stuff. That neither. Jeez, what do you take me for?

  399. No more ban on Mr Pink.

    He can come and go at his leisure. But if he types in all caps, I’ll have to spank his bare bottom. WITH MY CHILDISH GODHEAD RULER STICK! OF LIES!

  400. - Does it have a brass edge? Without the brass edge its a powder puff. Ask feets. He knows.

  401. Mr. Pink might like the spankings. One never knows.

  402. Apparently he took his ball and went home, though. Whatevs.

  403. I’ve been checking back every so often waiting for the day that Jeff would be back posting “full time.” No offense to the guest bloggers, but they never really did much for me. Welcome back, Jeff. Your posts are the reason I visit here. Finally, it sounds like I’m going to have reason to check back every day.

  404. The opening ceremonies of the Olympics is pretty cool.

    Racists

  405. This might be a good time to look up ‘affectation.’

  406. I’ll trust but verify. I can’t get hurt again. But don’t let your return get to your head. Remember: doing an “internet radio” show with ace will never be a good idea.

  407. - I know I didn’t have to do that for you Goldstein, but I thought it would carry more weight, wallow in more gravitas, exceed the boundaries of all known righteousness, coming from Moi’, because everyone knows I don’t like anybody.

    – Well, except maybe about 100 of the regulars, but that isn’t important, I hate everyone else.

    – Well except feets.

    – And bunnies.

    – Kittens. Ok. I admit I like kittens.

    – But don’t let that fool your thor. I’m 6’4 and 245 lbs of steely rock hard muscle.

    – And…..ummm…. I can also toss an apple in the air and skin it with my 15 inch KBAR before it hits the ground. So suck on that bunky.

    – Ahem. Where was I…….

  408. I once killed a rabid puma with nothing more than an ostrich quill and steely resolve.

    And the ostrich quill was only for after, to tickle my nethers for a job well done.

  409. - Steely resolve requires almost daily sharpening. I opted for a piercing stare. When you’re not vanquishing enemies the chics dig it.

  410. Jeff, you’re on FIRE, baybee!

  411. Well in retrospect BBH maybe I over-reacted to a simple insult considering I curse like a sailor in my every day life. I like this website alot and would like to continue to haunt the place and curse it with my sub-par commentary. How about I take my “break” for about a week or two while gearing up my fantasy football teams then come back if I want to and am still allowed. Me calling anyone a child is pretty hypocritical anyway considering my girlfriend is 22 and I still go out to bars and get drunk to the point that I start armwrestling people.

  412. So..you know, 413 comments later, Karl is not coming back then? What does he look like. I want to know this man Mao More Than Evah.

  413. Mr. Pink shows promise and pluck I think. A lot is two words though. If he had read here really a lot he would almost have to know that I think.

  414. Karl is chiseled out of granite and has the face of a young Chad McQueen.

    At lunch, he farted — and, so help me god, a dove flew out of his ass, and the rain outside stopped instantly.

    It would have been creepy had I not already seen David Copperfield do the same thing once at a Stuckey’s.

  415. This might be a good time to look up ‘affectation.’

    Indeed. And I want to assure you that I take a back seat to no one in my affectation for all the regular posters and commenters here. It’s a bit painful to go away to my everyday reality and return to learn that the furniture has been rearranged, but it gives me an incentive to visit the Pub more often, and I’m ecstatic to see the old Jeff back in form!

  416. Holy Shit! The things I miss when I’m at work. Jeff, get things done, write your book, keep helping Tony, and get your boy off to school. I’ll be awaitin,’ like (most of) the rest, when you come back. Don’t sweat all this other crap, but it looks like you’re not, which is a good thing.

    Oh, and I know I’m late to this:

    Echo and the Cuntymen (Lips Like Sugar, get it?)

  417. For real how many times have you watched Karate Kid anyway?

  418. Are the beer nuts coming back?

    Basically stopped dropping by when those dried up… hard to find a site with good beer nuts…

  419. - Ok. The Edwards thing is getting even uglier. Pictures, video, finances, hideaway apartments. A kept woman for some time. Moving her into a hideaway apartment when she found she was preggy with little E.

    – Really bad stuff.

    – I think this guy is through, and now its all damage control. The Enquirer has a ton of additional stuff, which they havn’t decided whether they’ll release or not. I’d opt for no, to spare the family, but it says todays statement he made
    was another “what the meaning of ‘is’ is” moment.

    – Case pretty much closed for John boy.

  420. Not that I’m suggesting anyone here is mere furniture. Unless you were thinking of one of those gigantic round beds with a built-in trapeze. I wouldn’t mind being that sort of furniture. YMMV though I s’pose.

  421. One of the unspoken aspects of “its” character, which I will now type out loud for you, is the idea that every regular on this site is comfortable enough in their own intellectual skins (I won’t go to the physical because I promised McGehee not hurt his feelings anymore), that they feel ok with letting down their hair and just expressing themselves, no holds barred.

    Emphasis on the no holds barred. I think most try to be gentle with the noobs, but it can get pretty rough in here even when we are just playing. That was the one thing that surprised me most about Karl’s reaction to thor, thor is an asshole, but he is generally a fair enough sport if you call him on it. And God knows he can take a punch.

  422. Mr. Pink – I would suggest hanging around. Chalk today up as a bad day. We all have ‘em, you just had your spectacularly bad day in a very public manner. You will find that disagreement is par for the course, and unless it gets overly personal, is quickly forgotten.

    Racists

  423. I am telling you BBH, Johnny might be going down (heh) but Elizabeth will milk this for all it is worth. Those two spent hours in the film room studying the Clintons.

  424. Links, BBH, we needs links. And I really want to see Silky pull the ‘poor little orfink gurl with no winner coat’ routine this time. He’s going to have a very hard time generating any sympathy for himself, although I imagine he feels sorry enough for himself to make up for it.

    Ah the schadenfreude, it’s tasty. Try a slice.

  425. The Enquirer has a ton of additional stuff, which they havn’t decided whether they’ll release or not. I’d opt for no, to spare the family, but it says todays statement he made
    was another “what the meaning of ‘is’ is” moment.

    Two things come to mind, sales being the first of them. The second is Silky’s “filthy tabloid lies” defense. He’s almost made it incumbent on them to slay him in the course of burnishing their journalistic integrity. Add in the haughty MSM dismissal of the story (except for Fox, the only outlet I know of to actually do some follow up investigative reporting) and they almost have to flay him, mostly because they’re asking for it.

  426. Roman, Karl may come back, if he so chooses. Bask in the rising phoenix that is Jeff Goldstein when he totally comes back. Jeff has rediscovered his mojo. Decidedly, this is a very good thing.

    Should we bring any booze and/or beer tomorrow?

  427. - Kirsten Powers is really tearing him a new one on FOX. You know how bad that sux. When you’re so much of a 24 carat prick you have a doll like Kirsten down on your ass?

    – I mean if that was me she was talking about that way, they’d have to put me on suicide watch.

    – Fucker. (I guess JD “owns” racist at this point damn it.)

  428. - feets will do the links thing Swen. I suck at setting links, and besides, you’re going to be absolutely underwhelmed by the vacuum in the MSM about this while mess. CNN did one cut with his statement and the vid of Hunter saying how much she admired him, so what little you get will be soft peddled.

    – I don’t think they’re going to be able to black this one out though. The Enquirer has him dead to rights and they can just dribble it out a fart at a time, so the MSM will have to cave at some point.

    – One bad thing this brings up for Obama is all the “secretive” areas hes trying to avoid as well. Really bad timing for him.

  429. Air Supply’s mega hit, “All Out Of Cunt” was brilliant. As was Led Zepellin’s, “Whole Lotta Cunt”. Classics to be sure.

    Cunt you homies later…

  430. - I don’t remember if Gallop does any weekend things, but either way, by Monday we’ll get a preview whether this effects O! or not. The next set of polls should be interesting. Not sure a fondue party will be enough.

    – You couldn’t write the script for this election season if you were William F. Buckley.

  431. Who also can forget the 80’s bands Haircunt 100 or Cunture Club?

  432. Sgt Peppers Lonely Cunts Club Band

    Cunt Me Up! If you cunt me up, I’ll never stop.

  433. “If you want to try to psychoanalyze me, have at it. You don’t know what’s in my heart or in my head. I do. And only one of us is correct.”

    Comment by Jeff G on 8/7 @ 12:32 pm #

    Jeff – that comment was heartfelt to Tony and did not involve you in the least. I was appreciating his peacefulness and precise approach to facilitating peace. I found it calming. Again, no offense, but it didnt have anything to do with you.

    Deluded.
    #

    Comment by Enoch_Root on 8/7 @ 12:33 pm #

    right. you can see my heart.

  434. The mother of John Edwards’ baby is coming off so far as something of a trollop I think. Kind of a slut really. Maybe it’s just the porn star name that’s throwing me. Well that and she’s a tramp. And there are just some things a kid shouldn’t know about his mom I don’t think. But this one will. It’s just so trashy. Don’t tell me she wouldn’t have had her uterus scraped clean if that little fetus hadn’t been attached to some hefty remuneration.

  435. Seminar commenters. I wonder how much that gig pays.

  436. Enoch, the links in the left sidebar seem to work, but the links at the top of the page don’t, except for the “Who’s Tony” link, which goes to a page of what looks like Dutch or something.

    What’s up with that?

  437. - As I posted over at the Pub, they both issued statements this evening. From the words and tone of hers, coupled with all the evidence the Enquirer has (some of which they released verbally tonight on FOX which show some lies in his statement already), either he lied to her, even in his “confession”, or she knows and shes trying to help him with damage control.

    – If the later is true, shes probably thinking that door number two can come after them for some very large coin.

  438. He doesn’t have a lot of regard for her, is mostly what I mean. She just has to play the hand she’s got the best she can, but he’s made it pretty clear she’s not getting out of this with any dignity.

  439. Some thoughts. First, this is a better blog with Karl, Dan, Darleen, etc. Jeff G is basically a “fluff right” novelty act. Protein Wisdom is more interesting when other people are blogging and Jeff G’s stuff is more interesting when it’s mixed in with other kinds of posts.

    Second, I’ve never understood why the bloggers are responding from so deep in the comments here. I don’t see that kind of response in the liberal blogs and I didn’t have time to respond to even 20 or so comments when PW readers were commenting on my blog.

    Third, where would Thor get off calling anybody a racist, misogynist, or homophobe on this blog? That’s like a fish claiming the water’s too wet.

  440. And Amanda just looks phenomenally stoopid.

  441. Speaking of trollops.

  442. Jeff #417 – Wow thanks for the laugh.

    I but can only wish to be so worthy as to serve as the keeper of doves birthed from Karl’s farts. Gently, oh so gently teasing them into my cage with my amazing, Technicolor dream coat.

    OI –

    Bring WATCHA like. Do WATCHA like.

    Cuz in Da 69 my …

    I use a word dat don’t mean nothin’ …

  443. Did some fat stammering borderline retarded slovenly dumbass fucking piece of shit say something? Caric, your opinion means nil. Nada. Squat. Nothing. Bupkis. Now go back to your den of delusion and gorge on hostess snack cakes and continue reading US magazine.

    Ro – Cuz in the 69 my humpty nose will tickle your rear. Well not your rear, Ro, but you know the shiznit…

  444. I think that #442 proves that PW, she stills spins and all is right with the world.

  445. Caricature really is a parody of a fat dumpy not that bright professor at a third rate school.

  446. Speaking of trollops.

    I meant Ric, not Amanda. She’s a lot not trollopy I think. Ric doesn’t know how to tell the difference between a blog that’s a vibrant exemplar of new media and where you have a blog just cause you think it will make you slightly cooler than the other loser professors in your little backwater podunk college. It’s just very sad and stark, the difference.

  447. Having heard from a pothole on the information superhighway…

  448. Amanda…

    Remember that Clinton’s infidelities improved his public approval ratings. Hell, maybe this will be good for Edwards’ reputation. That the woman involved in more age-appropriate takes away the thin thread of justification people had for hating on Clinton for the Lewinsky scandal.*

    Feminism.

  449. Oh, God, somebody cranked up the lawnmower again.

  450. Caric —

    You aren’t fooling anybody with that comb-over, pal. Trust me. Go all Ed Asner. You’ll thank me later.

    Enoch_Root —

    I notice you didn’t post my follow-up comment:

    Your heart has nothing to do with it. You are deluded about your standing.

    Did you need that explained to you?

    Okay, allow me. You aren’t Tony’s buddy, and none of us are interested in any of your later attempts to come off as “reasonable”. What Tony cares about, as a guy whose business is being held up, is getting his site done. You made a commitment. Honor it or don’t. But as I’m not involved anymore, I can’t be your scapegoat.

    It’s on you. No distractions and woe-is-me victimized outrage to grab onto this time. Sink or swim.

  451. Wow Prof Caric,

    Slight hint, the reason people Jeff can respond to more then 20 comments, besides the fact that he actually gets more than 20 people to view his site, is that he doesn’t haven’t to mouth the words while reading… which given your reading comprehension skills might actually explain the majority of your political takes & the lack of readership at your own blog.

  452. Comment by Ric Caric on 8/8 @ 8:39 pm #

    Some thoughts. First, this is a better blog with Karl, Dan, Darleen, etc. Jeff G is basically a “fluff right” novelty act. Protein Wisdom is more interesting when other people are blogging …………………………………….

    Yeah, not so much.
    I been off and on for probably 5 years. Lost interest when the shithead hit the fan and Jeff went away for some alone time. Only lately I noticed the pace pick up in a good way. I mostly read past the guest posts to get to the comments.
    So Ric, help yourself to a swordfish, there’s a stack by the door over yonder.

    Cuntry Joe and it smells like fish.
    Too easy?

  453. Doctor Ric is just worried, because Dan paid him linky attention, and that’s not gonna happen with me around anymore.

    Don’t take this too hard, Ric, but you aren’t in my league. You’re a fifth-rate academic surviving on the handout culture of a bygone era, when all the -isms took over campus buildings and created headaches until weak-knee administrators threw them specialty bones for promising not take dumps on the leather furniture.

    It wrecked academia while providing a living for people like you.

    It was intellectual blackmail then, and it’s intellectual fraud now. Don’t let the fact that you have a teaching job convince you you have anything interesting to say, or that you are in any way an intellectual. I’ve handled nipples that could best you in a debate, then throw on some blush and earn $500 spinning around a pole, attached to a stripper.

  454. Roland did you see the Provocateurism series? That was flying stuff there. At lightening speed for day after day, people poured in here to read and argue, to think and re-think. Exciting was what it was.

  455. Sdferr, that series is when I knew he was back. That series, and accompanying comments, was printed out and made into a booklet. Geek? Why, I just may be. But that was some good stuff for a guy like me. Good stuff, indeed.

  456. Prof Red

    This is and has always been Jeff’s place. I’m happy he trusted me enough to let me watusi in the living room; but it’s 4 am and time for the guests to go home.

    I’m not going away. I’ll be at the Pub or here in the comments and this is a good time to start seriously rebuilding my own site from ground up. This was never a “group” blog, even though as guests we all found our own voices and contributed as we became comfortable in our own strengths. But the uniqueness of this place was/is because of Jeff’s voice.

  457. Ok… I gotta do one small whine

    I am happy to see Jeff take back the reins and make the place his own again, but durn it, I wrote my friggin heart out and it kinda stings to read people shittin’ on my efforts.

  458. You were stellar and I will miss. Stay orangey and I for sure will visit your blog. I like how you have a California perspective except sane.

  459. You did fine what you did Darleen and don’t think otherwise. Your own blogsite will be busy when you get it going again too, I’ll betcha anything.

  460. Darleen’s stuff on nannystatism was top notch, which is why I recommended her to the Skewz folks. She is an excellent writer, has wit, and — as I told her in an email — big brass balls.

    I’m glad she’ll be staying on at the Pub, and let’s face it: for a few more months, the Pub will be more active than this place, likely.

  461. I’m just sorta sad about all of this. I just wish the best for all.

  462. I like the hell out of your writing and you, Darleen. Some of my favorite moments have been when some poor, unwitting little troll mistook you for an easy mark.

  463. Darleen,
    The lesson is:
    Do what you do because you want to.

    So, Grasshoppa. Wha ha you luhn?

  464. Darleen,

    No shit intended, as a loyal, daily reader your & the others efforts were & are duly appreciated. thank you for effort & it was not in vain.

  465. So, what’d I miss?

    Seriously, all the angst is really just unfortunate. I’ve enjoyed every iteration of PW but I certainly can’t complain about the net result since Jeff’s work is what brought me here in the first place.

    And I’m already foreseeing most everyone in a much better place in the very near future.

  466. Roland

    Do what you do because you want to.

    Indubitably. I have enjoyed myself here in all my roles.

    But you know, a pork chop in return is kinda nice once in a while.

  467. An old friend of Jeff’s has decided to get in on the joke:
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GzeEsMEi6iE

  468. Welcome back Jeff, and hang out you crazy diamonds. I got plenty of bones to pick, and things to learn. Nobody should care, but in the graduate studies program I attended we were indoctrinated in the deconstructionist model, in which I get to assign intent (or meaning) by the signifier. Imagine my suprise, to find a startling antidote to that worldview. I may disagree with many of Jeff’s political stances, but I look at this site as a bit of deprogramming; never a bad thing.

  469. RoboShep been a naughty boy….

  470. It’s interesting that Jeff obsesses enough about me to look up my pictures and that he responds two or three times to my little comment. I’ve seen enough of Jeff’s “skills” to know that Jeff does well when he’s writing fluffy snark flavored with his own special brand of bitterness. But that’s it. Jeff’s always a risk for crossing the line into useless self-pity and completely loses his flair when he tries to get serious. That’s why he did so poorly in his race debate with me. That’s also why Karl is so much more effective at political blogging than Jeff.

    As for my looks, who really cares? I have two big scars on my head since I had brain surgery as an infant and have essentially led a comb-over life. I’m used to it by now.

  471. I don’t care about your looks. You is mean and stupid what bothers me. Mostly the mean.

  472. That’s why he did so poorly in his race debate with me

    Thornton says “That’s a lie.”

    I concur

  473. That’s why he did so poorly in his race debate with me.

    *snort*

  474. oh, you were serious?

    where’s my decoder ring?

  475. OK. So Mr. Pink was Danny Bonaduce right?

  476. Dr. Reek did have an interesting observation about the Edwards Affair-

    Top-level married politicians are exposed to a lot of temptation. They travel constantly, spend a great deal of time in hotel rooms, and meet lots of single women who are smart, attractive, and think guys like them are the most interesting people in the world.

    So how come Democrats are always caught fucking the dumb, plain lookin’ ones?

  477. I have never looked up your picture, Dr Caric. Some of your students(?) sent me some video of them handing you a jackassery award or some such. And let’s face it: the combover kinda jumps out at ya.

    As for “obsessing” about you… well, I can tell you that I haven’t given you a thought until you showed up here. Answering you is not obsessing. You are speaking to me (or about me) in my house, so naturally I am inclined to respond.

    Finally, I notice how whenever you show up here, you rehash that race debate we had, the one where I so thoroughly humiliated you that you ended up carrying on the remainder of the debate alone, with no one to listen to your rehashings of old Stanley Fish material. Again, you aren’t in my league, and that was apparent to me quite early on. No reason to keep poking at the retard, as my Granpappy used to say.

    That you keep insisting you won the debate doesn’t make it so. You know that, I hope. I mean, you haven’t ACTUALLY bought into the whole leftist idea about willing history into being by repeating the same lies over and over again. Right?

    If you want to fluff Karl, have at it. I suspect you think doing so gets to me somehow. It doesn’t, but it’s kinda cute that I bother you so much that you keep trying. In a sad, no-longer-relevant sort of way.

    Man. That mark I left on your ego must still really sting!

  478. Oh, and by the way? Some of your ex-students like, totally worship me!

    Ain’t that a kicker?

  479. Wow. You’ve managed to vanquish your own guest bloggers. What a triumph! The pretense that they don’t have anything invested in this site, because, after all, your base are belong to us, is pure self-serving genius. I’ll leave you to the ministrations of your adoring choir. Aside from the big league asshole quotient, you’re not nearly as interesting as you think you are.

  480. Fuck yourself. In an interesting way, though.

    For the irony.

  481. Good show, Jeff. God, Midnight Oil should write a song about this.

    yours/
    peter.

  482. Tell it to JM Hanes, peter. Evidently, once anyone is invited in, they get to stake a claim.

    Forty acres and a mule. That’s the buyout, I guess.

  483. Well I know I originally suggested that you shut off the comments, but after reading this thread I’m not so sure. It’s pretty fucking good. It’s both amusing and distressing to see you so weary of the assholes at the same time you gotten to the point where you can deal with them with a flick of the wrist.

  484. #

    Comment by SGT Ted on 8/8 @ 12:25 pm #

    Wow I read that 450+ comment thread. Truly epic. I really love the part where thor tries to dissemble about why he called karl a racist by explaining that Hillary! was a mendacious shitbag, when we already knew that she and BJ were liars. Shocka, I know. What karls points were was that Obama is just the same, but no one in the MSM was calling him on it, and instead had turned on their former Hero of the Peoples Democrat in support of the current trendy mendacious shitbag Democrat. And I don’t mean just ordinary partisan support, but creepy, cult of personality, Messianic political slobbering that you usually only see in totalitarian dictatorships like Stalinist Russia, Nazi germany or North Korea. But, if you point that out, your a racist? Fucking cockamamie bullshit.

    Karl’s point was to imply-by-association that Barack Obama was a racist, a Marxist and corrupt. He offered no proof, choosing instead to post his loosely nuanced wink-winks 2, 3, 4 times a day so that enough agreeable bobbleheads would auto-parrot his meme.

    I pounded him. I gave him full warning I would, including my whys and whatfores.

    Karl says my calling him a racist stifled debate? It didn’t seem to stifle the debate when he was calling Obama a racist, nor calling Rev. Jeremiah Wright a racist, nor the true group-thought racists – Liberals, Leftists and Democrats!

    Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it nor expect me to fear kicking you in the bullocks if you stop making sense.

  485. #

    Comment by cynn on 8/8 @ 9:58 pm #

    Welcome back Jeff, and hang out you crazy diamonds. I got plenty of bones to pick, and things to learn. Nobody should care, but in the graduate studies program I attended we were indoctrinated in the deconstructionist model, in which I get to assign intent (or meaning) by the signifier. Imagine my suprise, to find a startling antidote to that worldview. I may disagree with many of Jeff’s political stances, but I look at this site as a bit of deprogramming; never a bad thing.

    Imagine my surprise sitting through Orientalism, Woolfe and Eagleton lectures. I’m a British, who knew we were worse than AIDS to all creatures big and small back in the formative days.

    My proud ancestry has been reduced to a machine revving with bad intentions. I’m altogether paddy with that. Someone has to wear the thorny crown of achievement.

  486. caricature is delusional.

  487. “dance monkey”

  488. Just saw the vid of Barack answering the question as to whether Edwards will be at the convention. And now the Obama campaign is scrambling to eliminate all closeup shots during his ad libs – as he has an eye-twitch that would put Herbert Lom to shame.

  489. “Our family has been through a lot. Some caused by nature, some caused by human weakness, and some – most recently – caused by the desire for sensationalism and profit without any regard for the human consequences.”

    Profit, sensationalism, irony.
    Cue Tammy Wynett with the Democrat fight song.

  490. Don’t take this too hard, Ric, but you aren’t in my league. You’re a fifth-rate academic surviving on the handout culture of a bygone era, when all the -isms took over campus buildings and created headaches until weak-knee administrators threw them specialty bones for promising not take dumps on the leather furniture.

    It wrecked academia while providing a living for people like you.

    It was intellectual blackmail then, and it’s intellectual fraud now. Don’t let the fact that you have a teaching job convince you you have anything interesting to say, or that you are in any way an intellectual. I’ve handled nipples that could best you in a debate, then throw on some blush and earn $500 spinning around a pole, attached to a stripper.

    Now THAT is going to go on my wall.

    THAT is Jesus in the Temple. THAT is Sir Thomas Moore’s defiant plea in “A Man for all Seasons.” THAT is Atticus Finch in his summation before the jury. And THAT brings down the walls of tyranny, even if they’re ivy-covered.

  491. Shit. I go out of town for a few days and my favorite site has its fucking wheels fall off? O well.

  492. caricature is delusional.

    thor is delusional. Or a parody of ego, whatever.

  493. “That’s why he did so poorly in his race debate with me”

    Well, that’s that. If this steaming pile of goof thinks he actually won that debate, then there really is no use engaging him. Seriously Caric, I’m saying this as a fellow human being, go away. You’re a freaking embarrassment.

  494. Not so fast. Karls good and all, but how about a little something for the suffering. huh? The rest of us had to endure too you know.
    Some nice flakey Austrian pastries, napoleans, and good rich coffee with cream, and a Cohiba laced with heroin.

  495. #487 thor

    Karl’s point was to imply-by-association that Barack Obama was a racist, a Marxist and corrupt. He offered no proof,

    What Sean Thornton says.

  496. All your comment # 500 are belong to me.

    calculated

  497. BTW, Darleen, I liked your posts a lot. Hope you write at The Pub too…

  498. JH

    I already have something up at the Pub. More in the works. :-)

    And don’t forget, I have a skewz podcast coming up, either Monday or Tuesday, I think you’ll all enjoy.

  499. the Grateful Cunts.

  500. Don’t listen to the jackasses, Darleen. Your posts were good.

  501. Jeff, please also consider branding The Pub more visibly and heavily. IMO, it should become a more prominent portion of the pw whole, perhaps in time a rough half of the overall site in terms of traffic. It’s not uncommon for forums to acquire half a major site’s page views, so to The Pub, even if it’s not a forum.

  502. Well, really, if it takes this to get Jeff in the groove again and sharing his mad, self effacing genius, I hope it happens more often personally. I’m selfish that way.

  503. Who told BBH I have feelings?

    Slanderers.

  504. Thank goodness I have Good Will Cunting on DVD, or I’d be bored out of my cunt.

    Also the lesser-known erotic sequel, Good Cunt Willing.

    So, I made it home despite the delay. I had to sprint to make my connection, but make it I did. Much to the chagrin of the standby set. I felt bad, really.

    I pounded him.

    You pounded something, all right. I’m guessing there’s a sticky wad of Kleenex in your corner, after.

  505. I’ve handled nipples that could best you in a debate,

    I’d like to meet those nipples.

  506. I have two big scars on my head since I had brain surgery as an infant and have essentially led a comb-over life.

    Fail.

  507. “Effective immediately, no more guest bloggers.”

    Thank God, it’s way past due.

  508. Darleen, I too, would like to say that I enjoyed your posts. Your nannystate posts resonated quite well with me and you are a very talented writer in your own right. Knowing you Guest Bloggers are in the Pub and Jeff is slaying demons from the main site, is a good thing.

  509. The real protein wisdom will soon return.

    Seriously. I feel an incredible weight has been removed from my shoulders.

    So that’s what that “surge up my leg” that Chris Matthews talks about is like.

  510. I liked all the posters, Dan Collins was always fun, Darleen was a fresh voice of goodness, Karl had great political analysis and so on. I hope they keep going at other places and I can find them to read.

  511. Dittos on the Darleen goodness. Keep grinding the bastards down, girlfriend.

  512. I never have understood this obsession by some commenters on blogs with what they feel is their “right” to dictate how a blog is run. Jeff pays the fucking bills around here. He pays the hosting fees, and it’s his site.

    Jim C

  513. “Spending seven years being stalked, harassed, Google-bombed, etc.”

    well if u quit they got wat they wanted.
    Frisch, Tbogg, et all have always just wanted for u to STFU, cuz like, u are teh Intellectual on the Right.
    There isn’t anyone like you.
    Goldberg, Whittle, even Dr. Yes, just folksy pretenders to real academe streeet cred.
    you are Authentic.
    which is why they hate you so much and are so desparate to shut you up.

    me, ive moved on to another evolutionary stage.
    these flamewars seem kinda quaint and antiquated, but chacun a son goutes i guess.

    best witches.

  514. oh…..
    and feets….
    im am the Lion.
    ;)

  515. hi, you. Don’t evolve to where you never visit, and maybe this place is evolving too. I’m ready I guess. Well, I should vacuum first and finish up my new computer. Maybe then. For real though, you have a lot of creative destruction to do and I expect big things.

  516. me, ive moved on to another evolutionary stage.

    The tail finally fall off, tadpole?

  517. I’m only 26 posts in and laughing so hard that tears are streaming down my face. This Jeff G-Mr. Pink stuff is hilarious!

    You guys (I assume) are better than just about anything coming out of Hollywood or Fox News these days.

  518. Has Robocunt been taken, yet? Because right around now, it seems appropriate.

  519. I made some green tea cause now is when I reflect. Ok this is me reflecting. This is really a bad thing to me, these last couple days, what we’ve seen. I don’t believe for real at all that thor appreciated just how cruel and unfeeling his actions were. So it’s ok, but jeez.

    Karl cared about this place, and he worked his ass off promoting it and delivering content on par with and even better than what the best sites have. thor blithely destroyed that, and what I’m talking mostly about is the simple human gratification and whatever personal derivation of value that were Karl’s only recompense for his hard work, a value that was never articulated really but eloquently implied by the self-evident dedication he brought to this. Tearing that away was a vicious and unfeeling thing to do to make some half-articulated political point, and quintessentially self-indulgent I think.

    Maybe if this were L.A. it would just be normative, but there are definite expectations of more betterness and more thoughtfulness here. I assert. It matters, how you treat people I think. That part is not quaint or antiquated never.

  520. I like Karl. I like what he has to say. But I’m sorry that he was unable to deal with the idiot thor other than banning him, and I’m sorry that he then decided to take a hike. But I also see this heading in a good direction, once everyone gets a new job and Jeff gets back to the old business of entertaining us.

    Or maybe that’s not the old business; I forget.

  521. …but I do suspect that possibly Enoch thought he was being funny when he was just dumping JP5 on the fire, and didn’t get that he was just making things worse, and then things escalated out of control. I used to like Enoch before he turned into the Tazcuntian Devil, and possibly I’ll like him some more after he gets over himself.

    If that ever happens. If Enoch is still out there: sometimes you just have to, in some reasonable time-frame, stop being a dick, and apologize for being a dick. Easy for me to say, because I’m not currently being much of a dick. Which is a vas deferens between you and me, my friend. Stop letting your glans do the talking for you, and just prostate yourself and ask for forgiveness.

    And that’s all I’m going to say about that.

  522. unable to deal is just too glib. It wasn’t abrupt. Karl telegraphed more than plenty for a more considered tack to be taken by thor. Karl telegraphed that yes, thor had made his point. This is uncomfortable for me he said. I heard it loud and clear. When people say that to you, you stop antagonizing them. I had to stand in the corner or go to my room until I learned this, I remember. They even took away my Micronauts at one point.

  523. Unable to deal with effectively. Don’t get me wrong; I’ve been there myself, but on my own blog, where I make the rules.

    Where’s that? It fell into the bit bucket a few years back. No great loss, though.

  524. oh. okay. sorry to impute a bit there.

  525. Comment by happyfeet on 8/9 @ 2:16 pm #

    I made some green tea cause now is when I reflect. Ok this is me reflecting. This is really a bad thing to me, these last couple days, what we’ve seen. I don’t believe for real at all that thor appreciated just how cruel and unfeeling his actions were. So it’s ok, but jeez.

    OK, hap, I’ll jump into the killer whale tank with 10-pounds of bait fish in my swim trunks. Is that it, you want the beast of the deep to eat me?

    Just call Karl up, already, and ask him out. He’s got some free time.

  526. There you go putting that shit into words again, hf, that same shit (and it’s not your shit, obvs., you’re merely describing, you are) that was there the day it all blew-up in everybody’s faces, staring everyone who had a part right in the face. Only now it’s a couple of weeks or so later and the splash is gone with tea dregs down the drain. It was all there, right there on that day. Humans, ain’t we eternally interesting? And heroic truth tellers like thor? Man, wow, so rare a type, like the prophet Isaiah he is (albeit telling the story of O, rather than that goofy god fellow’s story). Marvelous.

  527. No, thor. Stop. Don’t jump. It’s ok. Just be more nicer next time is all. I mean, you lost a lot of your gig too. For the foreseeable future I really don’t see much of an organic platform for your particular point of view about Baracky. Which Jeff and everybody and me a lot said yes did have a kernel of a point, even if that kernel was all kinds of ironicizable, and what a lot of people took you to be saying was not exactly what you meant or at least purported to mean. It was very layered and refracted really. For real just don’t take how this all ended up as a validation of that approach. The personal attack thing. It just shouldn’t be a pattern I don’t think. nishi says it’s quaint and antiquated anyway.

  528. I miss Karl. Malignant narcissism is an inadequate replacement.

  529. Your approach with Karl, thor, it juxtaposes way too readily with this here.

    “Why do you employ a hater? Do you think it’s good for your business to have a hater there?”

    Is that stretching things, to compare? Only maybe. But you had to be reading really close for the contrasts I think, while the similarities sort of jump out at you.

  530. OK, I’ll go along. In a room full of horse swapping hucksters trading limericks, back-stabbing Vosigoths and French-kissing cynics, I’m the armored undertaker. The full-doom spinal bender, an arm breaking bunny skinner, from Gomorrah, I’m the last of the ancient penetrators! On your knees, it’s the only way you’ll survive.

    Thor the Terrible!

  531. What I’m talking mostly about is the simple human gratification and whatever personal derivation of value that were Karl’s only recompense for his hard work. It’s gone now and that’s what we know to be true.

  532. Maybe if you had only been nicer to him, sent him flowers, fluffed his pillow, added fabric softener when you washed his sheets. For Pete’s sake, I’m not to blame.

  533. And what I’m saying is that part is supremely divisible from politics. It has to be.

  534. I am out of tea now.

  535. KK’s politics were odious, dehumanizing and contemptible.

  536. I mean, you lost a lot of your gig too.

    Yup. Most of the rest of us aren’t as easily bullied as Karl.

  537. I hope that “malignant narcissism” line wasn’t referring to me. Not that it much matters. Just that, given all hf’s talk about sacrifice and recompense and simple human gratificiation — about all that’s so little as a return on the time and effort it takes to produce content day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year — it would be ironic if people started to forgot that there’s this thing here in place that was not the product of some binary-coded big bang, but is rather the product of the hard work and sacrifice, etc., of another real person, someone who in the last few days has been excoriated for his evil soul from the very land he created and nurtured and worked hard to sustain, even if sustaining it meant, at times, asking for help.

    That kind of ironic. Which some people have already missed, so focused are they on the trees.

  538. Unable to deal with effectively.

    With thor?

    How much effort does one have to put in before deciding it isn’t worth trying to “deal with” the irritant?

    Thor’s rhetoric toward was odious, dehumanizing and contemptible. A lot like the PLO’s attitude toward the State of Israel, IMHO.

  539. Jeff, FWIW I read “malignant narcissism” as referring to thor.

  540. Oh, and thor? Karl’s politics weren’t at all odious, dehumanizing, and contemptible. Your response to his writings — always trying to suss out the secret racist subtext, like you were the hero of an Umberto Eco novel, and Karl’s soul was some dusty text from which you could, by dint of making strained connections, extract some ancient proof of vast, dark conspiracies — were, however, nearly always odious, dehumanizing, and contemptible, not the least because you knew (and still know to this day) that Karl was not racist, and that, given that he was writing on a blog, the material he was covering, from the right side of the political divide, was almost of necessity to be focused on the presumptive Democratic candidate for Prez.

    Karl left on Karl’s own accord. But as hf reminds you, don’t take that as validation for your tack; rather, recognize it as one of the unfortunate side effects of today’s politics, namely, that constant abuse is likely to cause those who are working hard for very little to wake up one day and realize that the very real suffering they are going through (sorry, but fuck all who say that we need to just suck it up; I wish it were that easy) is not at all worth it, especially when the cure turns out to be as easy as turning off the computer.

    I know, I’ve been there.

  541. Jaysus, thor, project much?

    whatever else, Karl exposed the basic fraud of O! and you are like that screechy little fop “leave Brittany alone!”

  542. With hf, I’d like to pause to reflect on the rhetorical damage in the world at large (not here, obvs.) done to GW Bush over the last eight to nine years. It is grotesque really. So frequently have lies been told and repeated about the guy that people nowadays seem content to say, or accept the saying of, damn near anything, no matter how false, how mean spirited, how corrupting their words and intent. Even his advocates have taken to merely shrugging them off, so weary are they of the efforts made and failed over the years of defending him.

    Piss truth. Such a paltry thing anyway.

  543. Jeff, I am gloriously blessed with a near complete lack of feelings. I would have deleted about 200 (at least) of these comments and banned the commenters just so I never had to hear their bullshit again. I work my own comments on my blog like a happy Rottweiler cheerfully slaughtering its way through a chicken coop. I shall name you Jeff Goldstein, The Merciful.

    Good to see the old Jeff back. And you’re right, the spare tires you kept mounting kept this vehicle moving forward, and kept it out of the impound yard, but it was far past time to put a new set of tires on that matches the vehicle, and makes it run smoothly.

    Luck to you, and yours, and your future, my friend. You’ve been through enough hell in the last few years to last a lifetime.

  544. Spare tire?

    Honestly, I’ve been trying to hit the gym regularly …

  545. #534
    Comment by thor on 8/9 @ 3:45 pm #

    OK, I’ll go along. In a room full of horse swapping hucksters trading limericks, back-stabbing Vosigoths and French-kissing cynics, I’m the armored undertaker. The full-doom spinal bender, an arm breaking bunny skinner, from Gomorrah, I’m the last of the ancient penetrators! On your knees, it’s the only way you’ll survive.

    Thor the Terrible!

    It would have more drama if you lose the big red nose and goofy giant shoes. Just sayin.

  546. So… Any update on Karl? I need to catch one of his doves if you know what I mean….

    In my Amazing Technicolor dream coat.

  547. Ray Guy, professional cunter. The same could be said of Ron Jeremy…or Wilt Chamberlain (full circle back to sports theme).

    On an aside, I really appreciated Darleen, et al., and will continue to look for their work in the Pub and wherever else I can find them. That being said, glad you’re (coming) back as yo badass self, Jeff…cockslapping and taking names later.

  548. No call, no email.

  549. I appreciate your insights Jeff G. I learned something from your analysis of things. I hope you continue to post, even if infrequently. I wish the best to all the guest bloggers too!

  550. ….that constant abuse is likely to cause those who are working hard for very little to wake up one day and realize that the very real suffering they are going through (sorry, but fuck all who say that we need to just suck it up; I wish it were that easy) is not at all worth it, especially when the cure turns out to be as easy as turning off the computer.

    I heard that.

  551. KK’s politics were odious, dehumanizing and contemptible.

    Really? Is that what you thought? Perhaps you should have said so.

  552. I think that Darleen, Dan, Karl, cranky-d, and JHowared did an excellent job while Jeff was off doing what Jeff was off doing. At first I wasn’t all that excited about this place becoming a group blog, but they won me over. Karl’s leaving as he did was unfortunate, even sad, because he did have people pointing out how much bullshit the claims of racism were. I wish the guest posters the best.

    That said, this place is Jeff’s and it’s nice to see him retake the reigns because it wouldn’t be what it is without him.

  553. (sigh) I don’t quite know what to make of all this (except for Rule #1: This is Jeff’s blog, and he does what he wants, and that’s absolutely The Way It Has To Be)….

    I agree with some of the commenters, and I don’t agree with others, and I wonder if that’s only because I don’t understand them (hf, I’m not sure if I’ll ever understand): Once upon a time, I followed a link to PW, out of curiosity, and quickly found myself completely over my head in the conversations (debates, more often than not), to the point where I found myself keeping a dictionary beside me just to try to figure out what was being said: Semiotics? Hermeneutics? I’d never even heard these words before; and when the conversations turned political, as they often did because the lack of a proper education in the public schools was pivotal to an issue, I decided I’d better keep my mouth shut.

    But I’ve decided to say something here, partly because of my deep respect for most of the PW Regulars, certainly because I agree with what Jeff has decided to do here, but largely because of one thing I can’t quite get a grip on: First, I sincerely hope that all of the GBs really do continue to Do Their Thang at the Pub, not for the least reason being that “that’s what it’s there for” (and I really never did understand why the Pub never garnered much traffic), and — along with many others — I wish that Karl would bring his Political Analysis Game back too.

    Yet I don’t understand, nor do I agree with, this theme I keep seeing in this thread, this Given a choice between Karl and Thor stuff from the commenters, mainly because I accept (even if I don’t understand) Jeff’s statement about what he thought Thor brought to the conversation: It’s just My Humble Opinion, of course, but — considering what Jeff himself has gone through, on and because of this blog — maybe Karl really should have toughened up a bit. (Don’t get me wrong: It’s also MHO that Thor overdid it. A lot.)

    What I guess is keeping me puzzled about all this is: Jeff, given what you (and others) have said about Thor’s “act” — and, yes, I can see why you thought that Thor was casting a new light upon the whole underlying raison d’etre for this blog — and why you allowed it to continue; in your opinion was this adventure in Semiotics As Performance Art a good thing, or a bad thing?

    Enquiring minds want to know…. (Well, I do anyway.)

    And now I’ll try to drop in at the Pub (I gotta use my desktop for that: My PDA doesn’t display the Anti-Spam thinger) and hand out a few pork chops (hi Darleen!)….

  554. It’s been years since I commented here, and years since I read this site regularly. I did so back when Jeff started doing a radio show, which probably dates me somewhat.

    The last time I left all those years ago, it was after an announcement that Jeff was leaving.

    And a couple of weeks ago when I thought to make a rare visit, I read that Jeff was leaving.

    I stopped by today see how the site was faring without its owner, and boy what a difference a few days make…sort of. Jeff’s ready to take over the whole blog again — with the caveat, natch, not to expect much posting. Because he’s not even supposed to be here.

    So I am left to wonder: after all these years, does that fence ever chafe?

  555. No, because he’s wearing chaps, bbeck.
    Nice to see you back.
    Nice to see you back.

  556. Regardless, it’s good to see Goldstein saddle back up. I am glad Obstreperous Infidel talked this shit up. Keeps the cobwebs outta’ my brain.

    Blogs and comments, I have found, have a way of self correcting themselves…most of the time.

  557. So I am left to wonder: after all these years, does that fence ever chafe?

    I dunno.

    What I do know is that after all these years, and all I’ve been through, the site is still up and running. And that’s because I have readers who assure me they are willing to stay without making me feel obligated to post new material day in and day out.

    Being a pappy has come first. And now that my son is off to pre-school in about a week, I’m eternally grateful I had sense enough to make the choices I did, which allowed me to spend nearly all day, every day with my boy for the last 4 and a half years.

    That kind of thing you can’t put a price tag on.

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  559. Lookit! Mona’s back to tell me how unimportant and marginalized I am! In a post dedicated to saying such. With a trackback here, no less! And a further link to James Wolcott’s post on the very same thing. Christ, if I get any less important, I’ll have my own column at Townhall.

    The world is my playground. And Mona, it turns out, is just one of those little green army men I sometimes allow into the story I’m creating. Seriously. When I don’t look her way, I bet she doesn’t even exist.

  560. Gang,

    You’re a delight to read. You really ought to sell tickets or charge admission.

    You’re sort of like a cross between mixed martial arts, the British House of Commons, and the sex lives of the Cheneys and/or Clintons.

    Loud, violent, angry, petulant, overly dramatic, mostly for show, and funny as hell.

  561. You should see us dance, Mark!

  562. I remember a summer vacation trip almost 40 years ago when my then-12-year-old brother had some firecrackers and our then-about-the-same-age cousin decided to enact a minefield with his little green army men and see how high into the crisp Utah sky the two of them could blow those unlucky soldiers.

    Firecrackers are illegal in Georgia, but I’ll bet I could get some. They’re probably easier to find in the Denver area, though.

  563. The Enquirer has a ton of additional stuff, which they havn’t decided whether they’ll release or not. I’d opt for no, to spare the family, but it says todays statement he made
    was another “what the meaning of ‘is’ is” moment.

    I say a big fat “fuck Edwards family” as he was/is proposing the typical LeftSeccProg “hurray for me and fuck all of thee” 2 Americas where us proles would be stuck riding hybrid donkeys to market from our thatched hut while his fresh produce is flown in from whereever and stored in his 20,000 foot walk-in cooler his chef manages for his estate’s restarant sized kitchen. His wife was completely on board with that crap too. Gulf Stream Communists with great hair. They deserve it and I’m lovin me some AB-FAB schadenfreud. It goes good on rye toast.

  564. Karl’s point was to imply-by-association that Barack Obama was a racist, a Marxist and corrupt. He offered no proof,

    What? Put down the crackpipe and realize that BLT IS racist to the rotten corp and is a branch of Marxist thought and programs. He went to that church for 20 years and had a bigot pastor as a close friend and sprirtual advisor. Only when Fr Bigot called Obama “just another politician” did O! toss him to the wolves.

    That Obama is corrupt is very evident, based on the types of people who friendships he cultivated as a Chicago pol.

    The eveidence is there, you’re just too obtuse to see it. Your blind dismissal of the evidence doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

  565. I agree with SGT T about the Edwards’ smarmy tawdriness. Mr. Reynolds linked where Mr. Tigerhawk was all having feelings and I thought well that would be you.

  566. Eh, Obama has demonstrated at least a discomfort with, if not dislike of white America (his wife even more so) but whether that’s racism or a desire to establish black credentials I can’t tell. Senator Obama has demonstrated he’s well more than willing to say whatever he has to in order to get power.

  567. a discomfort with, if not dislike

    I thought this was sort of astounding.

    In 1997, Obama told top adviser Dan Shomon that he had never been south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Shomon told Obama that they should take a road trip to southern Illinois — which they did.

  568. Ah, southern Illinois. Land of gator stew and possum pie.

  569. #561–Jeff, that’s one of those “Priceless” commercials. Contact an agent.

  570. I was with you in the beginning. I ‘ll be with you till the end. Enough said..

  571. How much effort does one have to put in before deciding it isn’t worth trying to “deal with” the irritant?

    That was kind of my point, McGeehee.

  572. Just caught up on the whole kerfuffle. I, for one, totally respect your decision, Perfesser – though I really like Karl (that magnificent bastard). It seems that you are upholding what you have always held dear which is to allow people to express their opinions (as long as they are not abusively trollish). Thor may be annoying to many people, but his opinions are not troll-level. They are well articulated even if you think they are wrong. The reality is that everyone is not going to have a favorable opinion of everyone. I agree that it is not a great idea to ban someone because they hold an unflattering opinion of you. I find that if the knife cuts that deeply, it is probably time for some introspectin’. As always, you articulated the whole rather uncomfortable situation wonderfully.

    Good post. Great site. Hope everything works out for the best.

    (Hi PWers!!!)

  573. it’s about time. nothing against any of the guest bloggers, but i started reading this site for jeff’s writing, and my reading of it slacked off quite a bit as he let them take over. looking forward to your full-ish time return man.

  574. I only read this blog when Jeff is writing. The rest of you please get over yourselves.

  575. Do you see any of the guest bloggers complaining here, ducktrapper? They’ve done Jeff and his readership a fine service in his absence. No need to carp at them.

  576. I said please.

  577. From Jeff…

    “Being a pappy has come first. And now that my son is off to pre-school in about a week, I’m eternally grateful I had sense enough to make the choices I did, which allowed me to spend nearly all day, every day with my boy for the last 4 and a half years.

    That kind of thing you can’t put a price tag on.”

    Fuckin’ right Jeff, Just right.

  578. Wow. I doubt that you care JeffG, but I will now start regularly visiting this blog again. I selfishly hope you find time to post regularly because I enjoy reading what you write. And if I want to be reminded why I stopped visiting in the first place, I can click on over to the Pub.

  579. ^
    I’m with me. Dropped out a couple of years ago, but I’m going to bookmark this place again.

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