An article in Knox News states baldly that there’s no reason to suspect that the church shooter was anti-Christian, per se:
“It appears that church had received some publicity regarding its liberal stance,” the chief said. The church has a “gays welcome” sign and regularly runs announcements in the News Sentinel about meetings of the Parents, Friends and Family of Lesbians and Gays meetings at the church.
Owen said Adkisson’s stated hatred of the liberal movement was not necessarily connected to any hostility toward Christianity or religion per say, but rather the political advocacy of the church.
The article goes on to say that books by Bill O’Reilly, Shawn Hannity and Michael Savage were found in his home.
Another article on the same website states this, though:
“He had problems through the years,” she said. “He just didn’t seem to find his niche in life. He was always kind of a loner.”
Dee Adkisson said as a youth, Jim David Adkisson disliked being forced by his parents to attend First Christian Church in Harriman.
And yet another from the same site, from yesterday, says this:
The man accused of a mass church shooting this morning was described by his Powell neighbors as a helpful and kind man, but one who had issues with Christianity.
Jim D. Adkisson, 58, has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, which killed one and injured eight others.
He is being held on $1 million bond.
“He had his own sense of belief about religion, that’s the impression I got of him,” said neighbor Karen Massey. “We were talking one day when my daughter graduated from Bible college, and I told him I was a Christian, then he almost turned angry.
“He seemed to get angry at that.”
According to Massey, Adkisson talked frequently about his parents who “made him go to church all his life … he was forced to do that.”
Now, as I’ve said, I don’t know much about this guy. I’ve never read a book by any of the three mentioned. Never had any interest, especially in Savage. From what I’ve heard from O’Reilly and Hannity, I’d say they were very pro-religious righties. Still, it seems to me that we are seeing, as commenters noted this morning, the creation of a meme that scrubs (to use the presently favored term) the possibility of anti-Christian sentiment from the meme because of the cognitive dissonance this sets up for lefties, who would rather see this as a symptom of the related clinging to religion and guns that one would naturally expect to find in backassward Tennessee.
The evil correlation of these two elements in radical Islam is the result of root causes, but when it comes to this country, well, face it, we’re downright mean. And this despite the evidence suggesting that this guy blamed some of his troubles with his last ex-wife with the values that she had preached to her in church.
More, despite the obvious differences, the bitterness of this killer toward those who are not like him, the intolerance, is evidenced journalistically in the desire to fit the circumstances into a preexisting paradigm that flatters the intellectual predispositions of the ideology through which they view the world. O’Reilly and Hannity must therefore be hatemongers, if one who committed such an atrocity had them in his library. What those who commit atrocities in the name of Allah, on the other hand, is immaterial, because their violence is due entirely to the misinterpretations forced upon them by root causes.
And, honestly, this guy reminds me quite a bit of our furtive David Brown.
You know, when you write about this topic, you are just totally blowing Teh Narrative that right-of-center blogs are maintaining “radio silence” on it.
Bastard.
I shouldn’t drink so much, you think?
If I was fixin’ to kill me a chance of Christians, I don’t reckon that the first place I’d go a-killin’ is the local Unitarian Universalist Meeting Center and Place of Nonjudgment.
Also, Dan, I think you’re missing out on the Savage. He really isn’t straightforwardly political – he is like the Id of the non-neutered American male, and he is an absolutely brilliant raconteur. You just can’t listen to him, or read him, like you would George Will or Thomas Sowell.
You know, Dan, I totally agree.
The brainwashed by hatemongers radical islamists are not better then this guy from Tennessee
Good, sashal.
Now, tally up the respective death tolls and tell me which one is the greater threat.
I’ve listened. I think you get an idea of his following from the callers-in, and I don’t dig the whole “I’m a genius” narrative. Also, he seems not to see any of the things that are good about this country, and that’s a turn-off for me, right or left.
Maybe not. I can’t take it long enough to say. That’s not to say you’re wrong, because I speak from a very small sample. He might be an acquired taste that I just don’t care to acquire.
If he’s useful, they’ll use him. He’d have been more useful if he was a better shot though.
just ask those killed in the church, SPB.
i am sure they will know the answer.
From The Knoxville News:
“Adkisson targeted the church, Still wrote in the document obtained by WBIR-TV, Channel 10, “because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country’s hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of media outlets.”
Adkisson told Still that “he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them in to office.”
Islam as it is held by the current head choppers is the greater danger, of course. Only a fool believes otherwise. That said, this asshat Adkisson deserves no less than our full measure of condemnation, which I know full well that you understand Dan.
The self centered amongst us will see nothing other than the political aspects of this case, but those who know better will agree with the voice, and I paraphrase:
To hell with this asshole, and to hell with those who see only making advantage in his immorality.
sashal: You know the answer. There were two of them.
How many here and here and here and here and…
Hell, they’ve managed to outdo this guy by a factor of more than 30 TODAY ALONE.
Jesus.
That said, this asshat Adkisson deserves no less than our full measure of condemnation, which I know full well that you understand Dan.
I hear that.
Maybe this wasn’t about whether he was Christian or not.. Or if he hated Christians.. or not.. Or if he was Progressive or Conservative.. or a D or an R.. or Red or Blue..
Maybe he was just mentally disturbed and got agitated by the Unitarians that day because he couldn’t find his Tinfoil hat..
The mentally ill aren’t part of the narrative.. or rather, they’re part of a unique narrative only they can hear.. They don’t need any other motivation.
what an idiotic post # 11.
Go tell the relatives of those killed, that the fucking terrorists in Iraq or Turkey kill innocent people,that’s why their loss is less relevant.
What if that Adkisson guy was Muslim ?
I bet, we would have to gather your brains from the ceiling for so much of righteous outrage would blow them up….
I suspect you are right Ouroboros, what sort of emptiness must consume a man to believe that an act such as this can serve any greater good? I know not, and I hope that I never do.
sashal
The difference is one that you should understand. It is the difference between the accidental death of the innocent and that which targets it as a means to an end.
“Also, Dan, I think you’re missing out on the Savage”
I agree with this.. Savage isnt the ‘hater’ he’s painted as.. Least not that I’ve heard..He’s my fav of the talk guys..
sashal, for real. You can only get so much mileage out of this guy. There’s always another wacko coming down the pike. And this next one will probably get a higher score I bet. Don’t get too invested.
Go tell the relatives of those killed, that the fucking terrorists in Iraq or Turkey kill innocent people,that’s why their loss is less relevant.
I didn’t say anything about “relevance”. I asked which one was the greatest threat, from an actuarial point of view.
Nice try, though, sashal.
I know, hf, let’s forget it.
After all, who cares to see the connection between the hate fed up into that guy and the resulted crazy actions.
Not us…
What if that Adkisson guy was Muslim ?
I suppose the difference is whether this guy was acting according to the teachings of either Christians or Republicans. I don’t think anybody welcomes his actions. I don’t know why he did what he did, whatever the reasons, it was heinous.
I bet Fred Phelps wouldn’t protest this guy’s funeral, though. I’m guessing.
But we do care sashal. Which is why the comparison is less than apt.
I’m with Dan, perhaps I shouldn’t drink.
Hate fed into him? Now there was hate fed into him?
I just don’t think there’s meaning to be wrested, but for like how Dan says, who is this useful to? That’s really the only interesting part. I think we have a consensus that it has to be useful to someone, days are. The trick is to not be that someone.
that’s the thing, MayBee, M.Savage was sitting inside the brain of this wacko inciting and cheering his actions.
You guys completely underestimate the power of propaganda, though you are willing to admit it’s effects on North Koreans and Muslims….
hi MB. I got two coffees at Coffee Bean this weekend. I hadn’t thought about a message so I wrote Yay! on both. The people behind me snickered. I didn’t even look at them though cause while I was doing my message the Coffee Bean guy brought my latte and I didn’t want it to go in their face on accident.
that’s the thing, MayBee, M.Savage was sitting inside the brain of this wacko inciting and cheering his actions.
I don’t listen to Michael Savage. Does he tell people to kill liberals at church?
(I think propaganda is almost the least of the North Koreans’ problems. The concentration/work camps are much worse. But if you watch the Arirang Games, you’ll see that the propaganda puts anything Michael Savage could ever do to shame).
yes, M.Savage does…..
Yay!
If you would sashal, show us what words came from Mr. Savage that indicate that the political ideology of that which we oppose should be confronted with anything other than words. If you can do that, then you will have your equivalence.
yes, M.Savage does…..
Link?
That’s despicable, sashal. Also way beyond propaganda. Do you have any links?
Right, hf. Also, 1/3 of British Muslim students admit to believing that murder is justified for religious reasons.
Dan, the initial story was that he was anti-Christian according to his neighbors. You can imagine the delight amongst the local press when the note was found expressing his distaste for leftists, homos, etc. This will continue to get much more play than the Christian/Newsom murders because the press has been able to (as you aptly stated) scrub the early part of the narrative and fit it into the construct that they so badly desire. Right-wing white gun nut who hates gays goes on Church rampage. Even the Church rampage part would have ordinarily gotten a few high-fives at the NYT for getting rid of some Godbags.
If the story fits their template, you will see it everywhere. If not? Buried. Buried like this fucker yesterday should be.
From my direct connections on Kingston Pike, word is that JA’s wife divorced him and ‘became influential’ in this particular Church. Both had attended, together, several years prior.
So, this was no ‘mad-dog conservative’ choosing to hunt lib’ruls at UU at random; he had definite past ties and links there.
That said, he should definitely be tried, convicted, and then invited to join the flock of teh decomposing.
Thanks for the infos serr8d and PTH.
Sorry, I don’t know how to link what I personally hear in my car on the radio….
“Liberals are scum, they ARE ENEMIES OF America, they are not humans, they are traitors, they want to destroy America, it is a desease, unless we get rid of them we can’t look in to the successful future.
Gay mafia took over our country and media. They bought everything, they are corrupting your kids. Gay mafia, gay mafia.
That’s about how much I can hear in the short trip from work to home.
Heh. How often does that happen? Two Tennesseans commenting back-to-back…
I’m betting sashal has never actually listened to Michael Savage. Any takers?
Comments crossed in the posting. sashal, where in that quote does he say to kill liberals?
Savage doesn’t advocate violence and he’s no where near as rabid as the folks at KOS.. Millions listen to Savage and KOS and a host of others.. Virtually none go out and kill people afterwards.. John Hinkley Jr obsessed over a woman he’d never met and sought to impress her by killing a president that spoke directly to him through the tv..
My point is it’s not the rhetoric or propaganda that make people crazy.. Crazy people tend to latch onto thoughts or ideas or images and take them to the extreme.. This guy could just as easily have been an extreme liberal killing evil bible thumpers..
Anyway, seems to me Savage probably keeps transcripts on his website if he has one. Seems to me you could find a transcript and link that.
Michael Savage is good only to keep me awake when driving home late at night.
That voice, it’s a brick grater. And a bit much hate that late causes me to have nightmares.
But, NPR is sleepytime; that’s deadly at interstate speeds…
That sounds awful but not incite-y, sashal. Kind of like a Keith Olbermann.
>>Adkisson told Still that “he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them in to office.â€Â
I knew it! As soon as O! gets into office, what do you see? A pile of dead whiteys!
PS – I’m denounced, don’t bother
on the second thought, I think that were the “Will and Grace” reruns that pushed him over the edge….
#40, brother ratso, how much you’re betting?
45, you can’t be serious.
Do you need the open text, like “Go and kill liberal”?
Sorry, I don’t know how to link what I personally hear in my car on the radio….
Translation: you’re talking out your ass.
As usual.
I don’t listen to Savage myself. I’m pretty sure, though, that if he were calling for liberals to be murdered on a regular basis I’d have heard about it by now.
Oh please. For every one we kill… have you seen Fantasia?
I don’t know. Do people feel all warm and fuzzy toward the worst person in the world, Sasha? I mean, not that this guy, or, heaven forfend, a suicide bomber in Iraq would qualify. Their ties to Boooooooosh just aren’t tangible enough.
Mike Savage likes to play with the ‘worst-case’ scenarios. He presents possibilities that might happen, and scares a lot of people. That’s good for ratings.
I try to catch Glenn Beck when I can. Because of his sense of humor, and his real-life-speakings.
Rush is still the top dog, though. Twenty years of maddening the left. Today, Donald Rumsfeld gave him kudos. For his twenty years of excellence in broadcasting.
Won’t you be my Neighbor:
Five arrested in East Hills dispute over hydrant
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What started with an open fire hydrant ended with four youths and an adult being arrested in East Hills on Sunday. Residents accused city police and a private security force of overreacting.
The incident began around 6:15 p.m., city police Sgt. Stephen Vinansky said. He said children in the Second East Hills apartment complex had opened a fire hydrant on Wilner Drive between Robinson Boulevard and East Hills Drive, then reopened it after firefighters closed it.
“We don’t have (a) pool open. The kids want to get wet,” said Chaunte Moore, 17.
Vinansky said the youths began throwing objects, including bricks, at East Hills Public Safety security vehicles when they accompanied water department employees who came to shut off the hydrant. East Hills Public Safety is a private organization that helps patrol the apartment complex.
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Scores of residents spilled into the yards, sidewalks and streets as numerous city police officers in cars, on motorcycles and with police dogs kept watch. Several people were pepper sprayed, including at least one city officer who was hit accidentally, Vinansky said. Police began clearing the area at 7:30 p.m.
The juveniles and adult were charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, Vinansky said.
Resident Keiona Fisher, 20, who was among those playing in the water, said the children threw only water at the security officers and their cars, and charged that they and city police overreacted and were needlessly harsh.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_579763.html
I don’t really have the chance to listen to any of them much. Sometimes when I’m driving to teach I catch Ingraham.
Or did, that is. Is she back on air, yet?
Dan, what are you having on Monday night? Must be some mighty fun liquor…?
I did find a manifesto on Savage’s site.
No mention of killing liberals in there that I can see.
btw, Dan, as long as you brought in Bush into the conversation.
Small gift for you:http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/28/rice-adviser-the-biggest-stupid-idea-was-to-invade-iraq-in-the-first-place/
Do you need the open text, like “Go and kill liberal�
There’s no trouble finding plenty of quotes from bin Laden, Zarqawi, Zawahiri, et al about killing infidels, sashal.
It’s Guinness. Hardly anything.
Do you like black and tan , Dan ? Hardly “hardly anything”…
SPB, I surrender the point.
M.Savage is a nice guy and never ever literally told to his listeners to “go and kill liberals”.
Happy now?
Of course, Dan should remember to include people who headline their posts “Hey Faggot” when he discusses “hatemongers.” In Eastern Kentucky, one sees a fair number of people who are like Adkisson in being hostile to evangelical and pentecostal Protestantism on the one hand and liberal culture on the other. My speculative interpretation of Adkisson’s attack on the Unitarian Universalist church is that Adkisson might just as well have attacked a local mega-church if his particular triggers had led him in that direction. Listening to Savage, Hannity and O’Reilly pushed Adkisson to attack the Unitarians but he could have gone the other way as well.
I don’t want to push Savage, Hannity and O’Reilly as hatemongers here. I’m sure I’ve heard Hannity and O’Reilly both speak out in opposition to violence against gays and I’ve heard Hannity handle an unbalanced homophobic caller pretty well. But I would venture a guess that what makes Savage, Hannity, and O’Reilly into plausible triggers for this particular guy is the fact that they are all hostile to liberal culture and its acceptance of gays while still being secular themselves. It’s somewhat of an irony but it may be the fact that Savage, Hannity, and O’Reilly are not overtly religious that made them an influence on this guy.
One more point. What makes areas like Powell, TN and this area near Lexington, KY interesting is that they are subject to powerful cross-currents between the liberalism of university towns and the right-wing Christianity of rural preachers, the big mega-churches, and Christian television. I’ve seen many students struggle in navigating these cross-currents and it’s not altogether surprising to see someone like Adkisson blow up every once in a while. In fact, this area struggles a lot with attacks and threats of attacks on local schools.
Oh, there it is.. Savage Domestic Policy #M
“Kill all Liberals, every man, woman & child liberal, in any way and every way possible..Then burn their bodies and desecrate their ashes with your urine..and the brown people too.. Kill them.. etc etc.. and upon your death as a fascist martyr you shall have 40 virgins in the afterlife to enjoy as you will…”
OK, it didn’t actually say that… but you just know what he means…
After a thorough consideration, I changed my mind. Clearly this was all about Adkisson’s dissatisfaction with the church youth production of “Annie…
So, Caric, did Rush Limbaugh drive Tim McVeigh to blow up OKC too?
“But I would venture a guess that what makes Savage, Hannity, and O’Reilly into plausible triggers for this particular guy is the fact that they are all hostile to liberal culture and its acceptance of gays while still being secular themselves. It’s somewhat of an irony but it may be the fact that Savage, Hannity, and O’Reilly are not overtly religious that made them an influence on this guy”
You’re right. They should all be silenced immediately, lest they “trigger” again……..
Curley red hair has that effect on some people..
“But I would venture a guess that what makes Savage, Hannity, and O’Reilly into plausible triggers for this particular guy is the fact that they are all hostile to liberal culture and its acceptance of gays while still being secular themselves.”
Can someone translate this “sentence” into proper English? I need to understand how, exactly, it is bullshit before I respond.
caricature is a fuckin’ imbecile.
Don’t think that because Jeff is away for the moment, we’ll suddenly go slack-jawed in awe of your rhetorical diarrhea, Caric.
Why does one always seek clarification from a madman? There’s no reasonable reasoning forthcoming. And Caric…“But I would venture a guess that what makes Savage, Hannity, and O’Reilly into plausible triggers for this particular guy is the fact that they are all hostile to liberal culture and its acceptance of gays while still being secular themselves.” So much tripe.
The trigger for this guy was most likely invalid organics. How many people listen to all sorts of crap from a multitude of sources; of those, how many flip and kill?
JA’s problems were, I’ll wager, physical. Much like Mr. Novak’s striking of a bicyclist was just a manifestation of his tumor.
That’s funny, Ric, because Dan Savage used to change the salutations in all of his advice request letters to “Hey, Faggot!” and everyone dug the satirical intent.
I think I’ve asked this before, but does anyone else get that Charlie Brown “teacher voice” sound effect while reading a Caric post?
Comment by MayBee on 7/28 @ 8:14 pm #
I don’t listen to Michael Savage. Does he tell people to kill liberals at church?
Comment by sashal on 7/28 @ 8:16 pm #
yes, M.Savage does…..
Sashal, you specifically claimed that Michael Savage tells people to kill liberals at churches.
Yet you have failed to provide any quotes, or any evidence whatsoever, that he does so.
Alex – That is the predictable drivel from a Womyn and black studies prefessor that is neither a womyn or black. Plus, he’s an idiot.
Hi, timmah, ya’ arse.
And speaking of Dan Savage, he is a homosexual chauvinist who describes hetero sex as pushing tab a into slot b, and accusing it of being unimaginative. Strangely, the thought that the intersection of the minds involved, female and male, and how the difference might require a certain amount of empathy, never occurred to that person. Yet libs lapped it up, and it was there in every indy rag in every college town from coast to coast, where they preened their enlightened sensibilities while hosting advertisements for comely young girls to go to the City to “party” over the holidays and make wonderful money at the same time.
Faugh.
Do you think Hannity’s secular, Ric? Really? Not that I defend him, because I think he’s boring, which is finally the only unforgiveable radio host sin. Do you think Ingraham is secular? Which lefty talking heads with a national audience, do you think, are overtly religious, and why is that?
You may all feel it’s a waste of your time, but I’d prefer that you not ad hom Professor Caric. There’s certainly enough fiskable material there. Work with that. It’s far more interesting.
Dan – Is it an ad hom when one notes that a mental midget is, in fact, a mental midget?
I chose to blame Chomsky and Zinn for inciting terrorist attacks against the United States.
See, I can play perfesser too!
OT, but JD, Timmah visited my site today and left a piddling. And jadegold, whoever that is, mentioned you.
Don’t bother to look; they left under escort.
“describes hetero sex as pushing tab a into slot b,”
For me, one of the upsides is the total lack of fecal matter and rectal tearing – which apparently makes the “other way” fun for some.
Listening to Savage, Hannity and O’Reilly pushed Adkisson to attack the Unitarians
Okay, Dan, but I think that it is, in fact, a waste of time.
Prof. Caric: you claim that Adkisson was “pushed” into his attack by these media personalities.
“Push” is an active verb, implying intentional stance. If I say that someone “pushed me out of the way”, the hearers infer that that person wanted me out of the way. If something similar happens by accident, we don’t normally use the word “pushed”. Rather, we say “he bumped into me”, or “he stumbled into me”, or “the idiot wasn’t watching where he was going and knocked me down”.
Do you have any evidence that intention was present?
If you’re not claiming intentional stance, then your argument is about as valid (and persuasive) as Hinckley claiming that Taxi Driver made him do it, or Chapman blaming The Catcher in the Rye, or any number of concerned parents who’ve filed suit arguing that listening to the backwards Satanic messages in Judas Priest lyrics caused their little Johnny to turn into a transvestite prostitute.
I tend to cut Savage a little slack, given he lives in the Bay Area and all. That would be provocation enough to become a bit over-the-top. <<= Tongue-in-cheek comment, for the rhetorically impaired.
Also, I could have sworn Hannity was Catholic.
Listening to Savage, Hannity and O’Reilly pushed Adkisson to attack the Unitarians but he could have gone the other way as well.
Do we know what all was in Mr. Adkisson’s library? Do we know for a fact that there was no Chompsky or Zinn, no Mother Jones, no Dawkins, Harris, or God Is Not Great?
People who shoot up churches, schools, malls, etc. all have something else wrong with them that leads to their rampages: the targets might derive from entertainment or reading material, or they might not. Serr8d @ 36 offers an even more plausible explanation for his target: personal backstory. My money’s on that.
this guy kinda reminds me of the uni-bomber- the enviro wacko.
serr8d – jadegold and timmah?! Good Allah. Add in O-Dub and frameone, and it would round it all out quite nicely. There has been an infestation recently. Michelines came back. Crazy creepy furry homo dude. MissKKKleo. We just need alphie, actus, and IJS to drop by.
“personal backstory. My money’s on that.”
I’ll guess he is a “broken arrow” Eagle Scout, avenging teh gay mafia’s fabulous assault on the BSoA. I have no evidence, it would just square that circle for me.
Perhaps I wasn’t being clear enough. I don’t view Savage, Hannity, or O’Reilly as “hatemongers” in any kind of strong sense and I was rather emphatic in saying that Hannity and O’Reilly opposed violence against gays. However, it is possible that their “opposition to liberal culture” served as a trigger for an unbalanced guy like Adkisson to attack a liberal church. I believe that Adkisson could just as easily have gone the other way and attacked a conservative church under different circumstances. That was my initial premise–that Adkisson had severe troubles with both sides of the spectrum.
Likewise, one can be a religious person but engage in secular political discourse. I’ve heard a fair amount of Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly, and Savage. The same with Laura Ingraham. They may go to church, etc. but their political commentary doesn’t have a lot of references to God’s will. They don’t often quote from Jesus, Paul, or the New Testament, and they don’t pose themselves in terms of a Christian sense of time (creation to apocalypse). For religious approaches to politics, one needs to listen to Pat Robertson, commune with Jerry Falwell in hell, or read some of Martin Luther King’s essays. The conservative commentators may “support religion,” but they’re very much secular figures.
What is getting kind of funny is the Left insisting that Hannity’s call for judges of a certain judicial philosophy inevitably incites violence against “the most vulnerable,” whereas gangsta rap with titles such as “Cop Killa” and “Big Pimpin'” do not inspire any violence whatsoever.
I have to say that it is sadly hilarious that Hamsher’s FDL is one of the websites pushing the “The Right is Ignoring this Crime” storyline. The producer of Natural Born Killers complaining about incentives to commit murder, when the most recently inspired by her movie killing was just 10 days ago.
RC: “I don’t view Savage, Hannity, or O’Reilly as “hatemongers†in any kind of strong sense and I was rather emphatic in saying that Hannity and O’Reilly opposed violence against gays. However, it is possible that their “opposition to liberal culture†served as a trigger for an unbalanced guy like Adkisson to attack a liberal church.”
As opposed to the outright celebration of violence and misfortune made by certain segments of the liberal press — the repeated acts of “humor” regarding assassinating Bush, made by Rhandi Rhodes, among others? “Snipers wanted” — ring any bells?
Motes and beams, Ric… motes and beams.
Perhaps I wasn’t being clear enough. It is possible that this whack-job was influenced by pink unicorns and the Easter Bunny.
You can dress it up however you wish, Caricature. It does not make your argument any less silly.
Maybee
I have to say that it is sadly hilarious that Hamsher’s FDL is one of the websites pushing the “The Right is Ignoring this Crime†storyline. The producer of Natural Born Killers complaining about incentives to commit murder, when the most recently inspired by her movie killing was just 10 days ago.
That is just an excellent point. She really is despicable, especially when you go back in the archives to this little gem
“However, it is possible that Ruby ridge and Waco served as a trigger for an unbalanced guy like McVeigh to attack a Federal facility.â€Â
The only difference from your formulation being that Ruby Ridge and Waco involved a little more than just speech. But even so, in the final analysis McVeigh was still a sociopath solely responsible for his horrific actions.
Folks, you just don’t get it. Conservative speech has to be shut down. It’s just not responsible to do otherwise!
Never mind what facts really come out about this story, whether it’s the domestic violence angle or what, the narrative has been picked. Douchebags like sashal and Caric will defend that narrative to the end.
Didn’t someone mail a whole bunch of Anthrax to various MSM and Democrat “enemies”. Didn’t like, five of the them die and stuff?
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