Camp Obama is upset with the new New Yorker cover that depicts the Obamas as fist-bumping terrorists:
Spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement: “The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Senator Obama’s right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree.”
McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds quickly e-mailed: “We completely agree with the Obama campaign, it’s tasteless and offensive.â€Â
And the HuffPo is already rattling arist Barry Blitt’s cage over it. HotAir’s Ed Morrissey already has the “ironic that Obama keeps claiming Republicans will be doing this” angle, while Dan Riehl has the “Obama’s skin is kinda thin” angle.
It is the latest link in a chain where progressives hammer someone without regard to that person’s obvious intent, for no other reason than to assert control over a political or cultural narrative — and some who should know better join in, simply to take a lap on the perceived moral high horse of the moment.
An example discussed more than once here would be that of Bill Bennett, who was lashed as a racist for having had the gall to point out — in critiquing an argument from Freakonomics — that it would be “impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible ” to argue that aborting all black children would reduce the crime rate.
Jeff G noted at the time that the attacks on Bennett were of a piece with Ed Morrissey getting attacked by progressive trolls like Oliver Willis for writing that Michael Steele was “articulate.” ÂÂ
Jeff’s post was (wrongly) attacked by Riehl as dishonest, which is why Riehl is now left complaining about Obama’s “new politics,” instead of realizing that Obama has been empowered to assert this sort of influence-by-victimology over his media coverage in part because people like him could not recognize what progressives had already done to people like Bennett, Morrissey, Larry Summers and others.ÂÂ
Give people the power to substitute their meaning of speech for the plain meaning, and you have already lost the fight, whether it is in interpreting an obiously satirical cartoon (skewering the Right, ostensibly), critiques of claims about abortion and crime, or the meaning of the Constitution.
(h/t Memeorandum.)
Update: Allah-lanche! Plus, Allah has video of Ryan Lizza making a point smilar to that which Jeff G and I have made today about letting the lowest common denominator vet satire.
Well, it was in bad taste and the timing is crap. There is too much at stake right now to try to be “clever” about the stereotypes floating around.
How the fuck is that mau-mauing anyone? Now he can’t even say something was tasteless?
You are doing what you are criticizing: Adding new meaning and definition to something to make it fit your greivance du jour.
Lisa: “Well, it was in bad taste and the timing is crap. There is too much at stake right now to try to be “clever†about the stereotypes floating around. ”
So, you think the free press’ editorial decisions should be subordinated to the wants and desires of a given political campaign? When did we revoke the Bill of Rights where Ol’ Big Ears is concerned?
Well, it was in bad taste and the timing is crap. There is too much at stake right now to try to be “clever†about the stereotypes floating around.
I agree that it is in bad taste, but I find the rest of your comment curious. Are you saying that the New Yorker has some obligation to help Obama win this election?
Obama, shrugging incredulously: “I have no response to that.â€Â
And his campaign spokesman later announced it was tasteless and offensive. They really aren’t very good at the whole ventriloquism thing over there, I have noticed.
Education Guy:
No, they don’t have an obligation to help the Obama campaign. Nor do they have an obligation to be tasteful. However, if someone points out that it was tasteless and ill-timed, they are not “mau-mauing”, playing the race card, or anything else. I find it interesting that Karl has decided that if Obama utters one breathy little word to refute anything that makes him look bad, he is either whining or trying to bully people. If I were important or interesting enough to have people publish things that cast me in a negative light, you bet your ass I would say something about it.
As we learned from the John Stewert incident, no one is allowed to make fun of the O!™. The “New Yorker” better get itself back on the plantation, or it’s gonna find itself under that bus.
Too much at stake an all …
Riiiight Carin, because he is supposed to just laugh off the tasteless and unfortunate.
Har-dee-fucking-har.
Lisa: “However, if someone points out that it was tasteless and ill-timed, they are not “mau-mauingâ€Â, playing the race card, or anything else. I find it interesting that Karl has decided that if Obama utters one breathy little word to refute anything that makes him look bad, he is either whining or trying to bully people. If I were important or interesting enough to have people publish things that cast me in a negative light, you bet your ass I would say something about it.”
Sorry to say, Lisa, but the day that ol’ Big Ears became a politician, he became free game for jokes, satire and ham-handed artists. As such, he *is* whining — if he wants the bennies of being a candidate for president,he has to take the slaps that come with the bennies. Heat, kitchen.
Lisa: “Riiiight Carin, because he is supposed to just laugh off the tasteless and unfortunate.”
SEK, can you explain to here that pointing out rudeness is just as rude as being rude… I think Lisa missed that one.
Well, Lisa, consider a thought experiment: Suppose Bush and his supporters had complained that one of the myriad editorial cartoons, magazine covers, comedians’ skits, etc., depicting him as Chimpy McHalliburton Killing Poor Brown People as “tasteless and unfortunate”. What then would have been your reaction? What would you expect from the Kos Kidz?
Regards,
Ric
I put it up in the Pub last night, if you want to see the closeup.
I’m just a bit jealous. Great job by teh artist.
Has anyone explored the Clinton Connection? New York, and all that.
There is too much at stake right now to try to be “clever†about the stereotypes floating around.
Whan did being “provocative” fall out of fashion? “Mau mau”, Karl? It’s summertime, and since it’s a presidential election year, sillier than usual season. Where is the retrospective on the Beach Boys? William Randolph Hearst is cheering right now.
If you read the first few commenters at HuffPo when they look at other covers by Blitt, they say it is no excuse because THOSE covers (a flooded Oval Office, Bush as a hausfrau to Cheney’s Archie Bunker) reflect Truth(tm).
Nothing must tarnish Obamallah (PBUH). No less than heroic image will be tolerated.
Lisa, when you are issued your O! prayer rug, will the cult of personality finally becomes a reality for you?
Yeah, and no Republican candidate has ever bitched about tasteless jokes being made at his expense.
That is also part of being a reasonably good politician. You are allowed to say “that was a very tasteless joke” especially if it a joke on the cover of a major magazine. Imagine if the New Yorker had a picture of George W. Bush snorting coke on the cover? Perhaps a photo of Mitt Romney with 9 underage brides? How about Tom Tancredo horsewhipping some Mexicans? Ha ha fucking ha right? You think any of those people would NOT make a statement expressing their “disappointment and disgust” about any of those things?
People are free to print what they want, and everyone else is free to criticize them for doing it. That is not mau-mauing.
I guess if anyone has the pic of the O!’s doing the fist bump, we’re guilty of poor taste, eh?
The difference, Lisa, is that you seem to believe that the New Yorker should be “down with the cause.”
I do find the liberal notion / double standard of tolerance amusing. Cheering over the death of a minor Bush functionary is kewl, but satire about the Great Big-eared Messiah? That’s just tasteless…
Lisa
We don’t have to imagine anything. Where have you been the last 8 years? When someone starts selling buttplugs of O! like they do of GW, let me know.
Rick the Bush Administration was not shy about condemning a major outfit when it published something it found tasteless or vile.
Stop acting like Obama is the only politician to do damage control when something that makes him look bad hits the papers.
Lisa: “Stop acting like Obama is the only politician to do damage control when something that makes him look bad hits the papers.”
The most obvious difference is that Obama is so thin-skinned you could hit him, metaphorically, and watch the bruise fill in.
#16: No I dont believe that – stop telling me what I believe, that shit is not going to fly. I am addressing Karl’s belief that because Obama criticizes the New Yorker he is being a bully or a whiner.
Dread, that is bullshit. But you keep believing it. As much time as the right spends being deeply offended about something you have the nerve to say he is thin skinned? Talk about projection.
Look in the mirror.
Lemme think for a sec … was this on the cover of “National Review”?
Someone – quick – what is the reader demo on the “New Yorker”? The “in” joke was aimed at the Obama voters. Most of us rightards have allowed our “New Yorker” subscription to lapse. I did it, mostly, because I didn’t “get” the fucking cartoons.
Lisa, when conservative publications begin printing calls for assassins to target Obama, you’ll have room to talk. So far, the assassination porn in re Obama has come from his acolytes, apparently desperate to see him converted into a dead saint.
(Because, after all, dead men can’t disappoint.)
Lisa: “I am addressing Karl’s belief that because Obama criticizes the New Yorker he is being a bully or a whiner.”
That would wash if your complaint was simply that the cover was “tasteless,” Lisa, but you also complain beyond that. For example, in your first post you state “There is too much at stake right now to try to be “clever†about the stereotypes floating around.” By implication, you seem to be saying that the New Yorker should share your stake in Obama and not have published the cover.
The part you would seem to be missing is that the New Yorker doesn’t have a stake in electing Obama.
Lisa – link please of an incident when the Bush administration openly rebuked a cartoon.
I mean, I don’t even think they said boo about that piece of shit Rall stuff.
Pot.
Kettle.
BANG!
Bullies usually are whiners, because basically they are cowards.
The New Yorker article (I’ve read most of it, it IS long) upsets the O! acolytes because it shows O! as the craven politician he really is. He moved in and lets his operatives do a lot of the dirty work. He won his first election by having his opponents thrown off the ballot.
As one of the people interviewed said “It’s easy to win when you are the only one running.”
Billy Jeff wanted to be popular and loved and he had the charm to get himself to the Oval Office to fulfill that overwhelming need. O! has that charm, too, but his need is not about being loved.
The part you would seem to be missing is that the New Yorker
doesn’tisn’t supposed to have a stake in electing Obama.Fixed that for ya Dread,
Dread, it is not a double standard at all because ONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER. I love how you are jumping all over the place with this argument but you can’t seem to find a meme that sticks. First you say I think the New Yorker should be campaigning for Obama but I wouldnt let you get away with that lie. Then you try to say that Obama is more thin skinned than any other politican when we both know that no politician would let something like this slide – not from a major publication – without expressing “disappontment” or some shit. Then you hop back around to Tony Snow and the KosKranks – which has not a damned thing to do with my point.
Keep it up though, I am loving it.
the New Yorker doesn’t have a stake in electing Obama
I’m sure they’ve now made O!’s enemies list. Look for investigations after coronation next spring.
Lisa: “As much time as the right spends being deeply offended about something you have the nerve to say he is thin skinned?”
Gee, yeah, you’re right — there is absolutely no difference between the whole “Chimpy McBush” bile and a single satiric cover on the New Yorker. And when Randy Rhodes “jokingly” advocated the assassination of Bush, gee, what a knee-slapper…
Obama went out and pre-emptively told folks not to talk about his ears. He wants his age and lack of experience off the table as questions about his candidacy.
If you’re too blind to see the difference, are you certain there is a mirror for me to look in?
Uh, Lisa, if that’s not what you meant by the following, then you should clarify it:
Uh huh. I don’t recall such an occasion, but never mind that… what was the reaction to that complaint? Somewhat similar to what you see here, I reckon.
The point is, it works both ways and nobody’s exempt. Indignantly claiming an exemption on the ground of Virtue is simply an invitation to further ridicule.
Regards,
Ric
David Remnick on the cover:
Obviously I wouldn’t have run a cover just to get attention  I ran the cover because I thought it had something to say. What I think it does is hold up a mirror to the prejudice and dark imaginings about Barack Obama’s  both Obamas’  past, and their politics. I can’t speak for anyone else’s interpretations, all I can say is that it combines a number of images that have been propagated, not by everyone on the right but by some, about Obama’s supposed “lack of patriotism” or his being “soft on terrorism” or the idiotic notion that somehow Michelle Obama is the second coming of the Weathermen or most violent Black Panthers. That somehow all this is going to come to the Oval Office.
The idea that we would publish a cover saying these things literally, I think, is just not in the vocabulary of what we do and who we are… We’ve run many many satirical political covers. Ask the Bush administration how many.
Lisa
What I am curious about is the “too much at stake right now” part. Are you saying that this is likely to inflame racial tensions at a time when there is hope (or at least the claim of it) at finally being able to put some of that behind us? If not, what are you saying?
I do agree that Obama has a right to express displeasure at this. It isn’t very flattering. That said, I do believe the attempt was to mock the right, or rather a shallow caricature of the right, which is one of the things the New Yorker likes to do.
Ric, I asked for a link, because I don’t personally remember the Bush administration ever saying anything. Even about the play that depicted his assassination.
Carin, Ted Rall is not the COVER of the New Yorker. And as I remember, MoveOn was constantly cooking up shitty parodies of the President and he condemned them for it more than once. Maybe I am wrong. However, like I said, the narrative that Obama is more sensitive than anyone else is as stupid and false as the “Kerry is not a real veteran” meme.
I suppose if you bounce it around enough in the echo chamber, it becomes your reality though.
I do agree that Obama has a right to express displeasure at this. It isn’t very flattering. That said, I do believe the attempt was to mock the right, or rather a shallow caricature of the right, which is one of the things the New Yorker likes to do.
I say boo, fucking, hoo. To express displeasure is to show how thin-skinned he is. Especially given that it wasn’t even an ATTACK on him, but instead of how stupid the right supposedly is.
But, as others mentioned, the pivotal statement you made is the “too much is at stake” stuff. I’d like you to expound. I’d possibly be interested in subscribing to your newsletter;)
The Bushies don’t even bark at bald faced lies, let alone unflattering cartoons. If they did, we’d have a cabinet level Department of Rebuke.
Too much is at stake. There are way too many people who really believe that Obama is a muslim flag burner. I don’t mean that they have an obligation to do ANYTHING except accept the criticism of their cartoon.
I love how you all grab onto that statement as if it meant anything other than what I said. Talk about doing exactly what Karl wrote about.
Lisa,
The point is the intent of the cartoon — tasteless or otherwise. When you see it, do you think that the New Yorker meant to suggest it was an accurate depiction of the Obamas, or a satire of the attacks made on them? It is obviously the latter, and Camp Obama does not dispute it — but nevertheless asserts that “most” will be offended by it. Which is untrue, unless you assume that “most” are inacapable of seeing the obvious meaning.
To take another obvious example, how ’bout the public employee (in DC, iirc) who caught Hell for using the word “niggardly.” No racist meaning or intent, but caught Hell anyway.
Here, Camp Obama is taking offense to a cartoon where the plain intent is to mock Obama’s detractors — and Blitt is already catching Hell for it. It is a perversion of the meaning of a “text,” whether in words or a picture, which is a very dangerous thing to civilization in the long run.
That is not the New Yorker that I new.
Or as someone else once put it:
Curiouser.
Carin I did expound. With all due respect, Karl’s post is bullshit and you are desperately pulling what you can out of your ass to make the “Obama ith ‘tho ‘thenthitive” meme true.
Count down to “Lisa you are an Obama cultist!”
Five, four, three, two….
Any chance I have to denounce an American citizen or American ally I will gladly take. Any chance I have to denounce our actual enemies that call for ours or our allies deaths, not so much.
Nice that you are able to utilize that little tale to discribe yourself and your actions.
Heh.
“There are way too many people who really believe that Obama is a muslim”
I have never understood what’s wrong with being a Muslim. Lisa, can you explain?
“Lisa you are an Obama cultist!â€Â
I find myself more or less in agreement with Lisa that this is a tempest in a teapot. The cover is pretty tasteless and I would expect the campaign to reply, which it did. I would expect the ‘Thuglicans to respond in kind to any of the 1.3 gazillion caracatures of George Bush. It’s all part of the political season and the next caracature of McCain as a bent over arthritic old geezer will start the cycle anew.
Lisa: You threw everybody off of their feed with the “it’s too important” screed. If you had just said that it’s no big deal that Obama responded to the cover as “tasteless” (regardless of the satirical intent, imho) then I’d be completely on board.
I understand the intent but don’t see the clear comaprison to the Bennet thing in which his words were parsed to create an entirely different content to what he actually said. Satire can be “tasteless” too thus I really have no problem with Obama’s minions reaction.
Perhaps I’m feeling unreasonably merciful today as a response to those selfish idiots at Westboro.
Lisa: “However, like I said, the narrative that Obama is more sensitive than anyone else is as stupid and false as the “Kerry is not a real veteran†meme. ”
The problem with Kerry is not that he wasn’t a “real veteran,” Lisa. The problem was that Kerry trying to trumpet his military credentials without addressing his later political activities — throwing his medals, the “Winter Soldier” investigation, etc. — bordered on farce.
I give up. I need to work.
I love how you all grab onto that statement as if it meant anything other than what I said.
It wasn’t clear, at least to me. So I asked.
Lisa: “Too much is at stake. There are way too many people who really believe that Obama is a muslim flag burner. I don’t mean that they have an obligation to do ANYTHING except accept the criticism of their cartoon. ”
No, there isn’t, Lisa. There is nothing at stake for the New Yorker, despite your protestations to the contrary.
This is just another political “silly-season” to them.
To everyone who thinks this no big deal, let me just say that you are racists.
Why? Because I assign to myself to power to interpret what you say however I want, regardless of the obvious meaning of whatever you said.
Now denounce yourselves.
There are way too many people who really believe that Obama is a muslim flag burner.
Who? How many? Are any of them “New Yorker” readers?
You know, I’ll give you this – I bet there are just as many people who believe Obama is a muslim flag burner as there are those who believe McCain caused USS Forrestal Fire.
Better yet, imagine that I am someone with the power to screw up your life by attacking you that way.
Also that white people invented the AIDS virus.
Welcome to Barry Blitt’s world this morning. Except instead of some commenters on a blog doing it to you, it’s the Democratic presidential campaign and all of its camp followers.
With all due respect, Karl’s post is bullshit and you are desperately pulling what you can out of your ass to make the “Obama ith ‘tho ‘thenthitive†meme true.
Actually, I’m not. I’m concerned with the trend that one is not allowed to criticize teh O! This is simply one more instance.
One last thing: I am SO not done with you Karl. Your ass is mine baby.
And I deeply deeply denounce every post from EVERYONE that will happen between now and this afternoon when I can get back on here and finish cussing Karl out.
I particularly denounce #55 (though it made me giggle).
See you later.
With Profound Condemnation,
Lisa
Karl – I think Lisa wants your ass.
It’s Brown Sugartits™ time for YOU!
Where is ole Angela Davis these days and how’s that revolution going for her?
George Bush don’t care about black people.
I’ve never cared about Kanye West.
And no, will absolutely, positively not denounce myself.
I’m right here fool
I would love to see how the New Yorker has portrayed politicians through the years. Was it they who drew the Clintons as Chinese people?
Anyway, I don’t blame the Obama people for not liking the cover or complaining about it. I do think he is oddly over concerned about the muslim charge. It is as if he can’t stand having someone think something about him he doesn’t want them to think. He needs to realize that there’s about a 28% wacko rate in the country that will believe any one thing at any given time.
Ok, so the cartoon was supposed to be an attempt to mock the *attacks* on Obama.
Those attacks which say he is a secret Muslim, a flag burner, and has a Black Panther wife.
Got it, we’re mocking those who attack Obama.
Only the cartoon is being misinterpreted as being ITSELF an attack on Obama?
Or by satirically showing anything neg. about Obama, even to make fun of the falsehoods that he is a flag-burning/secret Muslim/has a Black Panther wife — we have sinned?
Because Obama must never-ever-ever be shown without his halo?
Or cause he is a black guy, and don’t over make fun of black guys cause it will be construed as being racist?
Someone help me out here…
By the way, I think the cover is tasteless too.
You are.
I do think he is oddly over concerned about the muslim charge.
I’ve got to disagree with you there Maybee. I think he needs to jump all over any suggestion that he might be Muslim and do it often. It may not be as big a problem as he thinks but it’s still a problem.
Once again, my favorite bumper sticker of this political season as seen while driving down Rt. 100 South in Exton, PA.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
Are you F*&#in’ kiddin’ me!?!
“As one of the people interviewed said “It’s easy to win when you are the only one running.—
Scratch a lefty, find a fascist.
Lese majeste will get you sent to the Patriotic Feeling Camps, where you will contribute to the nation’s infrastructure and take part in Participatory Democracy by stuffing
ballotsenvelopes for ACORN.Hey, how often did we hear from anti-war (actually, on the other side) folks that Saddam was the “elected leader of his people” while they also said Bush was “selected, not elected”?
I still think he’s a scary bastard. You can mock me if you want but the New Yorker people didn’t even get close to the picture in my head. If they had drawn Baracky looking like Hugo Chavez I would have been like get out of my brain for reals.
Really, BJTex? I think the way he keeps bringing it up draws more attention to it.
I look at the left-leaners in my family, and almost every one of them secretly believes that the TANG stuff was real, it’s just that Dan Rather had forged documents of the real thing. Most of them think Gore really won Florida. There’s just no getting ideas out of people’s heads sometimes. So you make your case and move on.
I don’t think any of the people that get the emails about Obama and find them an excellent source of truth are going to go out and vote for him anyway. Just like my left-leaning relatives were never going to vote for Bush.
“Saddam was the “elected leader of his people—
With 99.999999% of the vote.
Actually, I’m not. I’m concerned with the trend that one is not allowed to criticize teh O! This is simply one more instance.
It will be better than education. It will be re-education.
Darleen has a good point. The article is far more damaging to Obama with his base.
Since I haven’t noticed any flying pigs, I suspect The New Yorker is still in the tank for Hillary.
I still expect a floor fight, especially now that the “new messiah smell” appears to be wearing off of O! and he’s starting to look like the standard-issue cheap Chicago machine pol that he actually is.
Bush was “selected, not electedâ€Â
Just read it this morning at the DU. They’re not known for their originality.
Mostly MayBee I think this is for when people hear hey did you know Baracky Hussein was endorsed by Hamas … they’re a bunch of terrorists and they think he’s their guy … people are supposed to say hahaha you can’t fool me I mock your overwrought fears.
N.O’Brain: ““Saddam was the “elected leader of his peopleâ€Ââ€Â
With 99.999999% of the vote.”
Number one with a bullet, you might say…
Darleen has a good point. The article is far more damaging to Obama with his base.
Ha! Perhaps the idea is to get a boycott of the issue going, so the base doesn’t read the article.
That’s what I was thinking, Maybee. Attack the cover, and get people to ignore the article.
Ha! Perhaps the idea is to get a boycott of the issue going, so the base doesn’t read the article.
Could be. As others have pointed out, the NASCAR folks aren’t big New Yorker readers, in general.
Mostly MayBee I think this is for when people hear hey did you know Baracky Hussein was endorsed by Hamas … they’re a bunch of terrorists and they think he’s their guy … people are supposed to say hahaha you can’t fool me I mock your overwrought fears.
Yeah, I know that’s what the New Yorker wanted. Obama wants everyone to love him.
Mostly, though, I think he wants nobody to read the article so he’s whining about the cover.
The article has his response to 9/11 (we need more intelligence, we need to find the source of the hatred blah blah blah) and says he had to be against the Iraq war because that’s what his district would expect. It also says he never got much done as a Community Organizer ™.
So what to do? Make it a cause to not even pick up that racist issue.
But even accepted as clever clever parody, this cover totally underscore the idea that duh everyone knows all muslims are terrorists. So when are those CAIR people gonna issue a statement? When Baracky kicked those muslim chicks off his stage so they wouldn’t be in the camera shot with him, CAIR said…
The New Yorker’s satire thinger only works if it’s predicated on an understanding that if Baracky was a for real muslim well duh he would be marginalized from the country’s political process simply because of his faith. It’s just silly to even imagine one of those wacky muslim people in the oval office is what this cartoon is saying.
What does a community organizer do anyway?
I didn’t think the cartoon was tasteless…I thought it was pretty funny, and reveals the contempt the bienpensants have for those knuckle draggers who won’t be voting for the Obamamessiah. But, I’m pretty shallow myself, so don’t hold it against me. Or denounce me. Aw, heck, I denounce myself.
Well I answered my own question by typing “community organizer” into the keyword search on Monster. Here is the first listing to pop up. It seems like you can get paid 10.40 an hour to be a left wing activist, who knew. Also funny to note they realize their activists will not want to get to work before noon.
Company: Working America Location: Milwaukee, WI 56387
Status: Full Time, Employee Job Category: Other
Occupations: Other
Job Description
Community Organizer
Work for CHANGE!
Work with Working America, a community affiliate of the AFL-CIO, and fight to take back power for the working class! Fight for issues such as health care for all, good jobs and a quality education. Now hiring concerned citizens full-time to educate and empower working families.
1:30-10 pm M-F. $10.41 /hr to start. Full time employment with Full Benefits. Experience not required. Women and people of color encouraged to apply.
Call 320-260-2696 or email cjens@working america.org or www. workingamerica.org
Mr. Pink: “What does a community organizer do anyway?”
Think “commissar.”
And also not to be provocative but for reals this is one of those topics where I’d be really interested to hear Scott Eric’s point of view I think. Sometimes his take is interesting and surprising and contrary to anything anybody has already said.
Back for a second due to meeting cancellation by annoying faculty member (praise Jeebus because I was not looking forward to it):
How is it that you can sit around criticizing Obama and then complain that no one is allowed to criticize him? That is like the nutroot dorks who complain that they have no freedom of speech and the Bush Admin are a bunch of jackbooted Nazis (not noticing that they are very freely sitting around complaining about the Bush Admin being jackbooted Nazis while remaining unmolested by said jackbooted Nazis).
Being criticized by him for criticizing him is not “not being allowed to criticize him”. That is just him criticizing you for criticizing him. Wtf, do you think he is not allowed to criticize his critics? I am sure that one can go all day criticizing one’s critics and one’s critics doing likewise.
And yes, most clever people will get the New Yorker parody. However, lots of people will not. Again, the New Yorker is not obligated to be helpful to the O-Machine, however, O himself is allowed to express his unhappiness with the timing (hopefully without oppressing you too much). Melissa M. puts it this way:
Yeah, I get that it’s satire. But, ya know, maybe it’s, um, a little ahead of its time, given that approximately half the country would forward this picture to a relative with the note: “Even the New Yorker thinks they’re black power terrorists!†without a trace of irony.
I find it interesting that the New Yorker would depict Obama as a muslim and his wife as a terrorist…It makes me want to open up the magazine and see what they are saying…However, I am an educated person…Others may not have the same perception and believe this to be a true to life depiction…as far as people saying that you are not allowed to criticize Obama…I think the criticism have been steady and far more damaging..While McCain is lambasted for being weak on the economy..Obama and his wife are said to be unpatriotic…McCain is called old…Obama is a secret terrorist agent..I think criticisms are one thing…but what Obama is going through is more of a light lynching
Well Dread I do realize I should probably just not bother applying for the job when I read “Women and people of color encouraged to apply.” My application will mysteriously make its way into the trash can.
Yeah, I get that it’s satire. But, ya know, maybe it’s, um, a little ahead of its time, given that approximately half the country would forward this picture to a relative with the note: “Even the New Yorker thinks they’re black power terrorists!†without a trace of irony.
No offense Lisa, but so the fuck what. Are we now supposed to not say anything that could be misconstrued? Are we to live our lives totally at the whim of the least common denominator?
Lisa: did you read the article?
The old term for it was “rabble rouser”.
Karl – I am jealous. I thought Lisa wanted me ;-)
Oh Chuck, I hear you. It is very painful to watch the brave Baracky awash in travails of oppresseyness. We can only pray and hope that somewhere he’ll find a new way of living, he’ll find a way of forgiving… somewhere… but right now I can only weep.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 7/14 @ 9:09 am #
Notice that a “community organizer” doesn’t actually, you know, create jobs or anything that actually creates wealth.
Great timing! I was just about to hit “Send” on my forward to everyone for whom I have email addresses – how would you suggest I word the message? I was really hoping to draw attention to the article which lays out the utter shallowness of Obama’s lack of character, so keep that in mind as you make your suggestion.
Speaking of the least common denominator, thanks for showing how it’s done chuck. Lynching? Really? I wonder how you can type when you are obviously to stupid to breathe.
Lisa: “How is it that you can sit around criticizing Obama and then complain that no one is allowed to criticize him?”
Given your reaction to the New Yorker’s light satire, you ask this? Oy…
Lisa: “Being criticized by him for criticizing him is not “not being allowed to criticize himâ€Â. ”
It is implicit (and in some cases, explicit) in his counter-criticisms and speeches that criticizing the Obamessiah is wrong. Indeed, he has warned the faithful that his perfidious opposition would make issue of his lack of experience, as if this were some trifling matter not worthy of their consideration.
Yeah, I get that it’s satire. But, ya know, maybe it’s, um, a little ahead of its time, given that approximately half the country would forward this picture to a relative with the note: “Even the New Yorker thinks they’re black power terrorists!†without a trace of irony.
The circulation is less than 1 million. I don’t think half the country would see the cover, although attention is certainly being drawn to it now. It isn’t like it’s one of the magazines in the checkout stand at the Pick N Save.
As I said, I understand their complaining, I’m just not sure it was the smart choice. The no comment thing was better, I think.
‘Light lynching’, yeah, like having to put on a nice silk necktie this morning, maybe one of those his kids gave him last Christmas.
N. O’Brain: “Notice that a “community organizer†doesn’t actually, you know, create jobs or anything that actually creates wealth.”
In some cases, they manage to destroy all of the above, albeit in small regions. To truly foul things up, you need unions and single party rule — think Michigan.
Lisa,
My response is mostly what EG says at #96, though I would again emphasize that the underlying topic here is the attempt of some to control the meaning of what others say, contrary to the plain meaning. As a political matter, I totally get why Obama wants to do it, but that makes it no less dangerous (whether it’s done by Obama or anyone else).
OK, I think I remembered a parallel case of Bush going after tasteless critics. Remember the NAACP ad saying Bush didn’t do enough about hate crimes, particularly the horrific murder of James Byrd? You know, the guys who didn’t get hate crimes charges, but did get the death penalty?
Well, Bush lashed back. He didn’t go speak to the NAACP.
RC: “Well, Bush lashed back. He didn’t go speak to the NAACP.”
And they whined that he didn’t, now didn’t they…
It isn’t like it’s one of the magazines in the checkout stand at the Pick N Save.
What, it’s not usually found between Soap Opera Digest and Monster Trucks Illustrated?
Obama’s campaign is making a MAJOR blunder here.
Lots of people are going to see the cover (and read the article) who otherwise wouldn’t have.
I hadn’t read The New Yorker in years, personally.
” To truly foul things up, you need unions and single party rule  think Michigan.”
Or Philadelphia.
I think we can all agree their is too much “denouncing” going on for everyone’s taste this election season. Both campaigns should just have a morning presser every day and read lists of all the people they “denounce”.
Yes, and what EG says at #96 is what people mean by “not allowed to criticize Obama”. Not that it’s illegal or that the jackboots will get us. Just that we will be told it isn’t good to do because it might be misconstrued and Candidate/President Obama is in a very delicate position. He could be misunderstood. He could be assassinated. It might look racist.
Remember how the left just howled when Ari Fleisher said, after 9/11, that ‘people need to watch what they say’? They took it out of context and everything, just to prove how bad watching what you say is, as a concept.
Mr. Pink- they should send a pageboy out to read it off a scroll.
, given that approximately half the country would forward this picture to a relative with the note: “Even the New Yorker thinks they’re black power terrorists!†without a trace of irony.
Half the country? Good thing we’re not exaggerating or anything.
Comment by MayBee on 7/14 @ 9:37 am #
Mr. Pink- they should send a pageboy out to read it off a scroll.
Starting off with Hear ye Hear ye?
Honestly, it’s the slow creep of dumbing-down political discourse. Couch any criticism of Obama’s progressive ideology under the banner of “America Hating” and you’ve got yourself a good strawman.
I denounce you for that.
From Wikipedia: “She is currently Professor of History of Consciousness at the University of California and Presidential Chair at the University of California, Santa Cruz.”
Sucking down tax dollars quite comfortably, thank you, and making big bucks from deep-pocketed guilt-ridden liberals from speechifying. “History of Consciousness” – you can’t make this crap up – but you can create a chair and put a radical horse’s ass in it. Ye, sir.
Maybee, you are right now that I think about it. They should have left it to the people who actually read the New Yorker (like my clever self).
I was reacting to Karl’s supposition that Obama was mau-mauing New York Magazine by expressing unhappiness over the cover. I don’t think reacting to something when it makes fun of the folks in the flyover states – um, the ones you are having trouble with in the first place – is Mau Mauing. Either way, it is unfortunate for Obama. Either the people he is trying to win over are going to say “Oh snap, the New Yorker thinks his a muslim too!” or they are going to say “oh, I see. I am a stupid bigot. That is what you are making fun of? I am worried about the rumors and now I am a stupid bigot? Fuck you guys and the muslim terrorists you rode in on!”
How many times do I have to say this to you before you get it?
I am actually a subscriber to New York Magazine and I get the satire. I agree with Camp O that it was not the greatest timing and will probably add to the bullshit rather than cleverly skewer it in most people’s minds. But it is what it is. And Maybee has a good point that complaining about it probably is unhelpful as well.
Obama’s Terrorist Cover Story Controversy…
Notice the demonization of conservartives at Daily Kos: Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell are “slaves”? Joseph Lieberman and his wife are “JDL terrorists”? And John McCain’s a “Nazi fire-bomber”?…
Geezer I guess if you survived the 60s, you need to try to peice together the History of Those Who Were Conscious While You Were Completely Fucking Stoned.
This from the campaign of a man who sat in a church for 20 years that painted a caricature of my country that was alot more offensive than this cartoon. That church he wouldn’t denounce until after 20 years, plummeting opinion polls, and three speeches. Meanwhile this he denounces within 24 hours. I think he can take his denouncing and shove it up his ass.
wha?
LOL, that is funny as hell though “History of Consciousness” indeed.
But remember, California spends money on bridges for frogs to cross the I-5 (I am sure they did several studies that explored why the frogs were still getting run over instead of crossing the bridge). So paying for the tenure of one crank is small potatoes.
I dressed up as the chick from “Get Christie Love” one halloween and everyone kept mistaking me for Angela Davis. I forgot that they both favored huge afros and fashionable Halston suits.
I’m just going to go ahead and denounce all of you. And you, over there. Yeah, you. You’re denounced as well.
Either the people he is trying to win over are going to say “Oh snap, the New Yorker thinks his a muslim too!†or they are going to say “oh, I see. I am a stupid bigot. That is what you are making fun of? I am worried about the rumors and now I am a stupid bigot? Fuck you guys and the muslim terrorists you rode in on!â€Â
Most of the people that would read it on their own aren’t the people he is trying to win over from these rumors. I actually think most people on the subscription list would say “Heh heh heh. This is indeed making fun of the rubes that think these things. More brandy please, Smithers.”
And hey! What’s with saying it’s the right-wing critics trying to create this caricature?
What’s up with this shit?
After Obama clinched the nomination wasn’t the healing supposed to begin?
Didn’t he say that in his speech?
My take: This shit happens in political campaigns. It always has. Sometimes it’s counterproductive to the intent, as it clearly was in this case.
Is it really worth a 122-comment thread to argue about what it means? Here’s what it means:
People to whom shit like this matters too much, will overreact to it.
Nuance.
Lisa: “But remember, California spends money on bridges for frogs to cross the I-5 (I am sure they did several studies that explored why the frogs were still getting run over instead of crossing the bridge). So paying for the tenure of one crank is small potatoes. ”
Money wasted is money wasted, be it for frogs or moonbats.
Likewise, keeping terrorist-enablers firmly ecsconced in academia serves a small positive effect on society — idle hands and all that.
Every time the BO campaign reacts in the worst possible way. They just draw more attention to how worthless a candidate he is. The only problem that I see is that Johnny Mac is almost as thin skinned.
A caraciture of some rural Americans as “bitter, clinging to guns, religion, and hatred of people that do not look like them” is ok, but caracitures of Saint Obama are off limits. Ok got it.
True McGehee. I am more annoyed with the idea that he can’t say anything without oppressing someone’s right to criticize him or some stupid shit. It is a bullshit meme that really annoys me. I really don’t care about the dumb cover.
But I don’t even know why I bothered. This shit is fucking standard operating procedure. Obama is “too thenthitive” just like Kerry was a windsurfing dilettante and flip-flopping fake veteran (okay he really was a windsurfing dilettante), and McCain is a crazed and angry old fart (and a RINO to boot).
If The Hills were the nominiee, by now she would be the “shrill, angry, oversensitive, ball-shriveling hag” and anything she said would be just more post menopausal kvetching. We do this to our candidates then wonder why only the most narcissistic and venal of our American citizens bother to run for office.
I figured once Baracky was done stopping the oceans from rising, he would start in on the healing.
Pink you are all about the drama arent you? You have played the race card, the saint card, the rural gun clingers card….you are totally running out of cards.
I would not hold our military, our resources and our foreign policy hostage to a misguided desire to maintain permanent bases in Iraq.
That’s kind of odd. The day after the New Yorker does its cover Baracky is talking about not holding things hostage. He’s definitely rattled I think.
Btw, Hi JDizzle! Good to see you!
Sugartits @ 134 – That was a good description of Hill/Bill.
The more I think about it the more this pisses me off. This guy and his wife obviously hold caracitures of middle America. We are bitter, downright mean, we hate people that do not look like us (black people). Any caraciture though that is done with him in it, even though this is done again caracituring people like me, is off limits. This dude disgusts me more and more every day. If there is any justice in the world he will lose in a landslide and his wife can go back to not being proud of her country again.
Comment by Lisa on 7/14 @ 10:16 am #
Pink you are all about the drama arent you? You have played the race card, the saint card, the rural gun clingers card….you are totally running out of cards.
How is repeating what he said a card? So are you saying I should just discount what he has said, and what he has endorsed and participated in?
Mr. Pink, when did he say you hate people who don’t look like you? I usually don’t ask for links because I figure we can all look shit up for ourselves. But um, do you have a link?
Mr. Pink is sounding like ConservativeHero, aka, ProggHero. I call bullshit!
“Lisa – link please of an incident when the Bush administration openly rebuked a cartoon.”
I’d also like any link to any Democrat denouncing the endless and ugly ‘satire’ generated towards not only President Bush, Vice President Cheney but Dr. Rice, Michael Steele, Joe Leiberman, the US Armed Forces, the ‘bitter clinging to guns and religion’.
How is repeating what he said a card? So are you saying I should just discount what he has said, and what he has endorsed and participated in?
Your conclusions are what are problematic. You seem to have a flair for making hacktastic assessments based on sketchy analysis.
But whatever. Far be it from me to step in the middle of a man/woman and his or her righteous indignation. Please do continue, sir or madam.
Mr Pink, you don’t have to find that link. Lisa never linked those White House condemnations of Bush parody/criticisms.
#144: Hi strawman. I was wondering when you would show up.
Here you go.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
So, the take-away from this is that Baracky shouldn’t be so thin-skinned, and us rubes should not believe what the New Yorker and their ilk think we believe.
That is a caraciture of middle Americans, or Americans in small towns. If you do not think so you are willfully blinding yourself. Soko though, I have already digested the fact that any criticism of Obama is a distraction or card of some sort that should be overlooked.
That is different from “they don’t look like them”. That adds a whole new element to the statement.
Oh, I forgot the most important take-away – If Baracky starts organizing your community, sell immediately. Property values tend to decline where Baracky organizes communities.
Oh, and sugartits. But not satire.
Consider yourselves denounced and condemned.
Mr. Pink you are being tho thenthitive!!! Like, totally get over yourthelf!
Sorry I couldn’t resist. Look this is kind of a ridiculous argument. I take responsibility for getting the ball rolling. If Karl weren’t so delightfully annoying and good at activating the troll in me, we would not be here, completely bored and unsatisfied at #151 posts.
Lisa you might have a point if he didn’t make references like this.
Obama “The choice is clear. Most of all we can choose between hope and fear. It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy. We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/06/obama_at_fundraiser_says_gop_w.html
That’s the quote I was thinking of too but I was too lazy to google.
“If Karl weren’t so delightfully annoying and good at activating the troll in me”
It’s what I like about karl, he’s delightful and hot!
And recall, please that, just after libs have destroyed the family structure, duped yutes of all races to abandon all moderation, subsidized crime rates into space, they build themselves gated communities where they can be safe. The values go up after walled gentrification moves in. You know, like where Obama’s reverend is retiring.
Mr. Pink wrote:
Lisa replied:
Well, “don’t look like them” is undeniably a subset of “aren’t like them.” I think it’s legitimate to assume “don’t look like” is included.
Lisa – Bored and unsatisfied? Give me a call ;-)
Yeah but that is true though. As we get closer to November we are going to see all manner of cards whipped out. Now of course he is not going to mention that he is also going to be pulling shit out of his skinny black ass to smear the other side. However, he is not wrong in assessing that there is going to be some crazy madrassa/Osamatastic scary violent black guy stuff popping up – definitely not from McCain. But you know how crazy those 527s are. I know you haven’t forgotten how much pure craziness that MoveOn and the Swifties injected into the campaign.
Now I thought that the hip, arugula eating, pinot grigot drinking set were the “gentrifiers” of blighted urban landscapes (okay lets just put aside that the reason the landscape is blighted is because of craptastic 60s lib policies).
Where the hipstery O-bots go, so go the newly renovated ghettos with their Urban Outfitters, Anthropologie stores, Fair Trade Coffee shops, and overpriced brownstones. I know this because I live in one.
Comment by Lisa on 7/14 @ 10:50 am #
I know you haven’t forgotten how much pure craziness that MoveOn and the Swifties injected into the campaign.
Hi strawman, I was wondering when you would show up.
Yeah Lisa, those Swifties were crazy. Kerry keeps promising to kick their butts once and for all. I’ve stopped holding my breath.
Chicks dig me.
Gentrification is just people want the neighborhood where they live to be nice. It’s got bad connotations for some reason.
Lisa – Did Obama ever announce the results of the AIDS test he got on his trip to Africa? Now that’s a legitimate campaign issue that concerned voters want to hear about.
Not trying to get into the argument if the Swiftboat Vets were a “smear”. I was referring to words that have came out of the candidates mouth. Words in which he expresses a caraciture of small town Americans. That is not a 527.
Pink that is not a strawman. It is simply what is. Don’t misuse my snark in an unclever way.
I know Daley. Kerry was the opposite of Obama in that he responded to everything with a deafening silence and a deer-in-the-headlights expression.
He had some delayed reaction where he finally decided that he should respond to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth 6 months after Bush was inaugurated for his second term. If he weren’t so depressingly disappointing as a politician, he would be funny.
I loved this cover. I thought it was funny. The Obamas don’t like it because the truth hurts. I think alot of people view them this way, especially Michelle.
#165: I agree Happy. I see nothing wrong with having a nice Safeway or a Whole Foods as opposed to a liquor store and a Dollar General. I don’t understand how a neighborhood becomes annoyingly inauthentic because the crackwhores and nightly shootings are gone (or at least significantly reduced – you will never separate Baltimore from her crackwhores).
But I still have to make fun of my fellows thinking they are different from the suburbs and their supposedly generic communities. Most gentrified neighborhoods have a pretty generic assortment of vegan restaurants, hip overpriced stores, and wine bars. So it is a little ironic.
#166: Whatchoo talkin’ ’bout, Willis?
[…] it is not surprising that the Obama campaign would prefer that people argue over whether the New Yorker cover — which mocks Obama’s opponents — is somehow offensive to Obama. It is — […]
I agree, Lisa, but the overlooked thing I think is that “gentrified” neighborhoods are ones where you don’t have to go out of your zone to spend your money. It’s a for real dynamic of prosperousness.
The complaint against gentrification that I understand is that the neighborhood improvements can raise property taxes to the point long-time homeowners can’t afford them.
I remember, though, when Guiliani cleaned up Times Square and all the celebrities complained that it had lost it’s grit (aka criminal element). It’s the noble savages thing, isn’t it? These people that keep half their living room on their front porch and never paint their house, they are our interesting culture like the people who poop in the woods for Drew Barrymore.
Do they sell ho cakes in “gentrified” neighborhoods? Just asking!
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Lisa, my sweet, upon whose satirical spit I dread to be placed (but what the hell), Hill was that looooong before “by now.”
Just ask Bill.
From #66: It is as if he can’t stand having someone think something about him he doesn’t want them to think.
Yes, it sure is. This is a telling trait, and one which gives legitimate cause for concern.
Comment by SevenEleventy on 7/14 @ 11:26 am #: LOL! Denounce!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by TheGeezer on 7/14 @ 11:46 am #: LMAO! So true. I do, however, denounce you with the fierce heat of a thousand hotflashes!
Ha ha ha ha ha:
As a PROUD African American I am utterly disappointed about this cover.It is clearly racist and tasteless to say the least!.Obama has many faults along with his wife Michelle,but to only make jest of the stereo-types applied to all African Americans only shows that the artist and editor can’t see past his race.even if it was a joke(there’s a lot of truth in a lil jest) it only goes to show how SECRETLY racist American politics are!.Obama is a Hero to this nation,a American dream come true!.McCain struck another senator,cursed another out,lost his temper countless times in the media’s spotlight *plus* his wife was been indited for (suspicions of)stealing drugs out a clinic but all America wants to talk about is “IS OBAMA PATRIOTIC ENOUGH?” ….and thats just a buzz word statement to say “Can we trust this Nigger”.thats it plain and true!,if Ebony magazine showed McCain in a Klan uniform they would be out of business.It’s ironic but this cover is not meant to insult African Americans,no it’s meant to invoke fear in the brain washed Anglo American masses!.And to put it blunt;if you (Anglo Americans)fall for the “okie doke” this time you deserve nothing better than another 4 years of a ReaganBush neophyte ….Wake up!(peace comes in many colors).North Cali Rules :)
Why didn’t you just draw a picture of poop and leave it as your comment?
This whole campaign started with the media doing the is he black enough thing for whatever reason. I think back then the answer was yes. Hillary’s blackness was found a lot lacking though.
Prentice916 do you mind if I nominate you for the troll Hall of Fame?
prentice916: you have all of the wit of a toaster oven.
IS OBAMA PATRIOTIC ENOUGH?†….and thats just a buzz word statement to say “Can we trust this Niggerâ€Â.thats it plain and true!,if
How did prentice see through our facade? FOILED again.
That might have caused my balls to shrivel, but thanks to Man Magazine (January, 1956, the one with the Nazis dragging a blond in a low-cut brunch coat out of cave in the Andes) I acquired a mail-order HormoniHeat-BallShield™ via mail order from some place in New Jersey. It came with a handy pair of x-ray eyeglasses, too.
Does peace come in lavender? Because lavender is a pretty soothing color. If it does, I’ll take 3.
you have all of the wit of a toaster oven
…with the bottom element burned out.
Whirled peas are green, EG.
Generating plenty heat but little light in the visible wavelengths. Pretty apt, Lisa.
P.S.- what’s the ‘okie doke’ in this context?
No pink. He is kind of a sucky troll. He should have posted 6 or 7 times by now (pointless links included). This guy is a loser. He only half-heartedly placed the race guilt thing (I give him points for implying that anyone who does NOT find this thing wildly offensive is either not a proud black or a secret racist – that was impressive) but he provided few hysterics, didn’t use ‘you people’ ‘Hitler’ and only invoked the KKK once.
Amateur hour.
I just think prentice should have taken a picture of his poop and then linked to it. It would have been much simpler than typing 4 paragraphs worth of excrement and would have gotten the point across in a better fashion.
This is what happens when the label says “Take one (1) pill three (3) times daily,” and you figure, “Ah, hell, I’ll just take all three when I wake up. Then I won’t have to worry about the Jimmy Beam running empty before lunch.”
Crap. Just what I need. Something else to worry about.
I’m just disappointed at the low-level of troll.
It’s ironic but this cover is not meant to insult African Americans,no it’s meant to invoke fear in the brain washed Anglo American masses!.And to put it blunt;if you (Anglo Americans)fall for the “okie doke†this time you deserve nothing better than another 4 years of a ReaganBush neophyte ….Wake up
I mean, it’s ironic that it wasn’t meant to insult African Americans or invoke fear in the brain washed whitey masses. And “to put it blunt” – if you’re this stupid, perhaps our country is better served if you stayed home this election cycle?
Comment by Lisa on 7/14 @ 12:23 pm #
prentice916: you have all of the wit of a toaster oven.
prentice needs to empty out the crumb tray!
Hell, he wouldn’t even need to take a picture of his own poop. This is the internet, if you can’t pictures of someones excrement, you aren’t trying hard enough. Or so I’ve heard.
You are right EG.
http://www.smellypoop.com/greeting_cards.php?dogpoop
Laughs hard @ 192-198: Outstanding.
On a given day – hell a given thread – I can honestly say:
“I laughed! I cried! It was better than ‘Cats’!”
I think the Oreo thing is funny, especially on this thread, because it always comes from people that supposedly know how black people think because they are black. They are generally staunch anti-racists.
Too bad the New Yorker couldn’t have incorporated the Oreo into it’s cover, but maybe that parodies the wrong people.
[…] the comments to Karl’s earlier post on this subject, Lisa writes: Yeah, I get that it’s satire. But, ya know, maybe it’s, um, a […]
I had too much to say and link to respond here, so I made a separate post.
Lisa: “Now I thought that the hip, arugula eating, pinot grigot drinking set were the “gentrifiers†of blighted urban landscapes (okay lets just put aside that the reason the landscape is blighted is because of craptastic 60s lib policies). ”
Bulldozing public housing faster than than they could build it will do that…
Lisa: “prentice916: you have all of the wit of a toaster oven.”
Alas, only half, Lisa,only half…
Obama has more in common with Dukakis — when challenege, the Duke would say “quit the finger-pointing.” Ironically, the more one complains and tells folks not to look at the distractions, they will look at the distractions.
syn,
I’m feeling too lazy to link, but here’s one: When Chavez followed Bush at the UN and called him the devil and told us he could still smell the sulfur, lots of major Dems denounced it. Rangel and Pelosi come immediately to mind. So, that’s one and you can Google it. After that, I got nothin’.
I’m just saying that when it actually happens, it can be noted. It doesn’t happen often, tho.
I know everyone’s moved to the Jeff post, but Pablo:
I distinctly remember that episode, and I even more distinctly remember (though not word-for-word) Rangel’s (who I rarely agree with) response; something on the order of, “It’s all right for US to denounce our President, but you FOREIGNERS need to STAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!!”
[…] image is a beloved leftist mock-up of Bush as a Talib.) If you missed Jeff Goldstein’s and Karl’s takes on the left’s agony over this, treat yourself now. This from JG: The irony here  and […]
NO! I have a life! Im not going sit and post all day nor will I defend my opinion by verbally attacking any of you.it’s your right to speak your mind and I enjoy you exercising it(really I do) and for your info Im only half troll!….ha ha ha! …. “it is what it is”, Im just glad the world once again can see how two faced America politics has become!.they don’t question a black soldiers patriotism who lay down their lives at the command of OUR President(commander and chief) but they question a standing Senator’s to suit their needs ….Obama is no Neophyte! after years of poker faced liars you cant recognize a real leader!.so go call your someone a troll who cares!.God bless you!.
JIHAD CANDIDATE . How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States ?
As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota ?
The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit ?
The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America ?
The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as ‘chaplains’?
Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a ‘freedom fighter’ when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya ’s history.
Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa , a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile.
Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barak Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of ‘racism’.
Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies.
Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa .
Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as ‘bigoted racism’; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts.
Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.
Where is the bloodhound American ‘free press’ who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case?
Why haven’t ‘newsmen’ pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries?
Where are the stories about this candidate’s cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa ? (WHOM OBAMA WENT TO KENYA TO CAMPAING FOR)
Why haven’t the press regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this ‘out of nowhere’ Democrat candidate or that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his ‘close pastor friend and mentor’ met with Middle East terrorist Moammar Gaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)?
Why isn’t the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?
Why isn’t our media connecting the dots with Islam? There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barak Hussein Obama to peek the curiosity of any reporter.
WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?
A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohamed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. ‘The process of settlement’ of Muslims in America , Akram explained, ‘is a civilization jihad process.’ This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in ‘America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.’
There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful.
Where is our investigative press?
Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings-forth a volley of ‘racist’ from the left-wing Democrat crowd. Lies and deception behind a master plan – the ingredients for ‘The Manchurian Candidate’ or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation’s White House?
Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States ?
Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations? Change for America?
What change? To become another ‘nation of Islam’?
Rich Carroll 2008 printed by permission
How often do you yourself Windsurf or do you just write about it?
Can I ask though – how did you get this picked up and into google news?
Very impressive that this blog is syndicated through Google and is it something that is just up to Google or you actively created?
Obviously this is a popular blog with great data so well done on your seo success..
Windsurfing greats you should write about next.