Search






Jeff's Amazon.com Wish List

Archive Calendar

November 2024
M T W T F S S
 123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
252627282930  

Archives

Whatever My Spiritual Mentor Says That’s Racist, Anti-American, or Just Plain Insane, I Disagree With [Dan Collins]

I mean, you’re not going to make me address these charges individually, are you? 


Q:
 I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but it’s all over the wire today (from an ABC News story), a statement that your pastor (the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s South Side) made in a sermon in 2003 that instead of singing “God Bless America,” black people should sing a song essentially saying “God Damn America.” 
A: I haven’t seen the line. This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.
Q: What about this particular statement?
A: Obviously, I disagree with that. Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor. There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it’s important to judge me on what I’ve said in the past and what I believe.  [emphasis mine]    

Translation: Oh, no, I hadn’t heard anything about those statements till this very moment. It’s important that you believe me when I state my beliefs regarding my belief, because . . . I’m believable. And now, whenever I’m asked about any of this, I can simply state that I’ve already addressed those concerns on the record.

Well the South Side of Chicago
Can be dang’rous if you’re white.
And if you go down thereYou’d better just beware
Of the Rev Jeremiah Wright.
The Reverend, he a black man
Though his skin is rather light
But if you say that, Jack
You’d better take it back
Or get yourself prepared to fight

Cuz he’s black, black Reverend Wright
Celebrities think that he’s out of sight
Badder than a-Malcolm X
And leftier than old TRex

Now the Reverend, he a preacher
And he’ll tell you what he knows
About the racist crackers and their corporate backers
And how Republicans are hos
He got a megacongregation
That like to come and hear his views
About the USA having created AIDs
Under the thumb of Nazi Jews

And he’s mad, mad Reverend Wright
Boosting black folk by denouncing whites
Badder than a-Malcolm X
And nastier than Spitzer sex

Well ABC less than a week ago
When the Reverend feeling nice
Got hold of tapes of the Reverend’s japes
And oh! those tapes ain’t right
Cuz the Reverend is a racist
And he’s anti-US, too
And he touts Obama from the pulpit, mama
Now the IRS is checking, too

And he’s bad, bad Reverend Wright
Why you righties have to be uptight?
Tying him to Farrakhan
And smearing our boy Obam?

40 Replies to “Whatever My Spiritual Mentor Says That’s Racist, Anti-American, or Just Plain Insane, I Disagree With [Dan Collins]”

  1. Rob Crawford says:

    I love it. Especially the bit about cherry-picking from a 40-year career. Um, Obama, you’ve been in this jerk’s congregation for half that time. Didn’t these statements bother you? Didn’t the frequency of their appearance bother you?

    Or are you just desperate not to reveal what you truly believe?

  2. cranky-d says:

    This stuff isn’t going to stick, I don’t think. Religion is passe’ to the left, except as a lever against the right. Besides, when brown people say these kinds of things, the left knows they’re just venting and don’t really mean it.

  3. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body

    He said that in 2006?

    So Condi is actually just cooking, cleaning, and providing sexual favors around the White House, and before that as Provost at Stanford?

    Really? Who knew?

  4. daleyrocks says:

    Barry, tell us about your moral compass, dude. What points do you take from the Rev. and which ones do leave? I mean, if I take a look at the Rev.’s compass and compare it to your’s, where do they overlap? Is your’s a 360 degree Wright compass or a 270 degree Wright compass? What degrees are left out?

  5. Cave Bear says:

    I caught a bit of Limbaugh yesterday, and heard some of the audio clips of this Wright character railing on about this and that. When it comes to pure bigotry and wild-assed paranoia, this guy makes your average hardcore Kluxer (not that there are all that many of them left) look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms.

    Limbaugh did make a salient point yesterday; this is the same pastor and church that Baracky and his harridan of a wife have been going to for over 20 years. He and his wife were married by this guy, his children baptized by him, etc, etc. And if anyone thinks this preacher started up with this sort of hate rhetoric recently is deluding themselves. It says an awful lot about Obama and his family that he would attend such a church for so long…

  6. sashal says:

    I think this time it will stick to Obama.
    This thing what Wright had said is radioactive.
    It will be a miracle if Barak will be able to force it go away

  7. Cowboy says:

    After watching that video, I can’t help imagining Baracky sitting in the congregation. When Wright was making comments such as this, what do you think BHO’s reaction was? Was he sitting stoically, was he clapping, or was he standing with one arm raised?

  8. Cincinnatus says:

    There’s not much point in him assuring us that he’s a Christian, not a Muslim.

  9. Scape-goat Trainee says:

    So I know that Obama is all about hope for America and all, but after he’s been there sitting and listening to this guy for the last 20 years, I gotta ask:

    What exactly is it that Obama hopes happens to America?

  10. Techie says:

    To steal from Ace, they love their country, it’s just Ike Turner patriotism.

    He loves America, he just can’t stop beating the shit out of it, that’s all.

  11. A fine scotch says:

    If David Duke or Bobby Byrd were to run for President, would anybody believe the “I just sat in on the meetings. I don’t espouse all of their beliefs. You’re taking a 200+ year old institution and cherry picking certain passages to make it and me look bad” defense?

  12. psycho... says:

    after he’s been there sitting and listening to this guy for the last 20 years

    He wasn’t listening. He’s spinning, but he’s not lying. But what’s he going to say?

    “Listen. I was new in town, a white-bread Harvard interloper looking to be a mover, and I needed some south side cred to get over on these chumps, because Jesus, look at me. So I signed up with the church that has it. I was only there to show my face, get my name in the circulars. When these crazy ghetto people were yelling about Jews and AIDS and 9/11 and shit, I was daydreaming about mayonnaise sandwiches and hoping my wife wouldn’t slap me in front of everybody. You know how it is. I’m just an emcee hustlin’.” [dorky dance]

  13. Drumwaster says:

    This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.

    Follow up questions, Senator… Have you ever actually brought any of your “profound disagreements” up to Reverend Wright’s attention? If not, why not?

    And that “on the brink of retirement” line was priceless. Is he saying that Wright has a lifetime of experience, therefore he knows what he wants to say, and how best to phrase it to accomplish the emotional result intended? Or is he trying to hint that the old boy might not be quite right in the head after so many years?

  14. McGehee says:

    So, this speeded-up early nominating process — which just happens to leave insufficient time to vet candidates before they’ve nearly clinched the nomination — how’s that working out for the Democrats, d’you think?

  15. Sean M. says:

    This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.

    But the ones that sound a little less offensive, well, I just use those as the titles for my books. Yeah.

    (Suckers.)

  16. Jeffersonian says:

    The idea that these comments are an aberration is ludicrous. Just glance at TUCC’s website and you’ll see the racialist obsession, the lunatic exhortations, the appeals to Black Nationalism. This isn’t some sort of departure from an otherwise pastoral, contemplative tone – it’s the core belief of this man and this church…and Baracky picked it above all the others, then stayed there for 20 years.

  17. Sean M. says:

    I mean, The Audacity of Selling Crack to Poor People and Giving Them AIDS on Purpose just doesn’t have the same ring to it, you know?

  18. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – The question you have to ask is why would the extremists let lose a torrent of off the wall insanity at such a key moment in his nomination bid. I mean, ok, maybe he never really had a ligitimate crack at the big cantelope, but this sort of crap could very well doom his potential for the future. Is anyone talking to Wright. It all seems so delf destructive.

    – Maybe we are getting some insight as to just WHY some groups are so easily victimized.

  19. Jeffersonian says:

    “Of course I disavow this comment. I’m more of a ‘let’s bomb America’ kinda guy, like my pal Bill Ayers.”

  20. Mikey NTH says:

    #14 McGehee, it is working great! There is plenty of time now to carefully go over the candidates and if any major defects of a Titanic nature are found, then the primaries can be re-run to get someone with a less dramatic list of friends and family!

  21. McGehee says:

    then the primaries can be re-run

    Ah! So Michigan and Florida were a test-run!

    And here I was thinking they’d just follow the Torricelli model.

  22. Pablo says:

    Maybe it would be easier for Barry to just tell us the stuff he agrees with Wright about and admires him for.

  23. Radish says:

    no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body

    Didn’t Obama meet Oprah at that church?

  24. Percy Dovetonsils says:

    On the bright side, this sort of nonsense absolutely guarantees that Obama will be a senator-for-life of this freakshow of a state.

  25. B Moe says:

    This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.

    Heh.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/13/144147/075/528/447963

  26. B Moe says:

    So Condi is actually just cooking, cleaning, and providing sexual favors around the White House, and before that as Provost at Stanford?

    I was wondering what Michelle Obama must have been doing to earn that $350k at the hospital?

  27. baldilocks says:

    One of Obama’s Real Problems: Jeremiah Wright

    The racist rhetoric espoused by Senator Barack Obama’s pastor of twenty years and spiritual mentor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, has finally come under the large-scale scrutiny that it deserves. Wright, the retired pastor of Trinity United Church of Chr…

  28. Kevin says:

    Why do you keep attacking Obama? He answered like 8 questions last week. Give the guy a break!

  29. kelly says:

    I was wondering what Michelle Obama must have been doing to earn that $350k at the hospital?

    As a lawyer, no less. Man, does this country suck or what?

  30. B Moe says:

    Okay, I think I found partly what Michelle’s job was:
    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/michelle_obamas_hospital.html

    Maybe Brother Jeremiah is on to something. Just sayin’…

  31. Drumwaster says:

    I was wondering what Michelle Obama must have been doing to earn that $350k at the hospital?

    Hell, that’s just a two-a-week at the Emperor’s Club, once you include the “big-name politician” discount. Maybe Caligula (as played by Malcolm McDowell) had the right idea…

    (Hey, his preacher said it first!)

  32. Darleen says:

    ohmylord

    The Nation

    The Nation — Sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ, otherwise known as Barack Obama’s pastor, are circulating wildly around the internet the last 24 hours. They show Wright passionately denouncing racism against blacks in America, in sometimes sharp language, and pointing out the ills of American foreign policy pre-9/11. Fox News and the right-wing blogosphere are outraged, the mainstream media is eagerly amplifying the selected sermons and the Clinton campaign is delighting that Obama’s Chicago ties are receiving serious scrutiny.

    Unreal.

    And, by the way, how come righteous Republicans are rarely asked about the views of their spiritual advisers? Or why wasn’t George W. Bush (and the presidents preceding him) forced to distance himself from the anti-semitic comments of Billy Graham?

    the sound you just heard was me picking my jaw off the floor.

  33. B Moe says:

    And, by the way, how come righteous Republicans are rarely asked about the views of their spiritual advisers?

    I have been looking for Hillary’s Feminist Religious Leadership Committee or McCain’s Old White Dude’s Religious Leadership Committee to try to figure out who the members are and the levels of denunciation and can’t find anything. What are they trying to hide?

  34. Jeffersonian says:

    The trick, Darleen, is to climb to a height sufficient to blur the facts into a bland, anodyne smudge.

  35. Jim in KC says:

    Good reason to stay out of churches, if you ask me.

  36. Sean M. says:

    Hmmmm…isn’t it convenient how that piece from the Nation Darleen linked to doesn’t, you know, actually quote anything Wright said?

  37. Drumwaster says:

    Isn’t it against the law to be speaking politics from the pulpit? And hasn’t the IRS been threatening churches who do things like this?

  38. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – Obama dropped the ball on this way back, so its just another case of “chickens coming home to roost”, which I find sad, simply bcause I didn’t want to win this election by default, and secondly it maybe shows that as rascist as it might sound, the black community, not any one individual, is just not tempermentally ready to lead the country. You can chew on that but heres a few observations.

    – Why would the black cummunity condone the very existance of a Black sepratist at any point in at least the last few years? It defies explaination. Is it a self loathing approach to insured failure? Is it an out of control core group of leaders that are so in love with their on celebrity that they care nothing for the future of the success of their own race? What could motivate any group to commit political suicide on the very eve of their first opportunity to seriously change the political landscape?

    – Is there a much larger group of Black Americans that are even now shaking their heads collectively, realizing the chane is slipping through their fingers, sinking soley because of the extreme views of men and woman whos stock in trade is Black apartheid? Or are this larger group lining upp to simply declar the entire mess as merely another example of the futility of the victimized minorities?

    – Again, its profoundly sad, and btw, anyone that thinks this is a free pass for Hillery isn;t paying attention. To wit.

    – If Hillery would have gone on to win the primaries straight up, there no doubt would have been a great deal of grumbling and hard feelins, but in the end the Blacks would have rallied around her. The way things stand now, particularly in view of Wrights words regarding the Clintons, its inescapable that the Black American voting block will refuse to vote her ticket, a block that she cann;t hope to win without.

    – For Obama’s part, after caefully listening to his response on FOX did not say anything that would explain how and why such an individual as Rev. Whright could even exist in a prominent part of his campaign, or for that matter the Sebators daily life. Hes just not ging to make it, and in many ways thats a shame. theres simply no way to temporize association to such an extent with a man who has uttered the vicious, anti-white comments his Pastor has.

    – I don’t like McCains politics in many ways. I don’t like having a Rino shoved down my throat. The Dem side of things is such a mess its looking simply as a no starter.

    – In my view we should start both primaries all over again, and this time REQUIRE that all candidates attend all state votes.caucuses, and all states votes and delegates count, and totally eliminate free rance pols known as super delegatse, and the two sides decide once and for all if its proportional or winner takes all, and both sides play by the same rules. This election cycle is not a tyrainwreck loaming, it already is a train wreck.

  39. Darrius McDowell says:

    This is all just extremely unpleasing. You guys are just all out trying to ruin Obamas campign. Please just let him be and don’t throw negative comments at someone if you don’t like them. Take it out in the voting polls, VOTE!.

  40. Spirituality Movies…

    Dear admin… I tried the same procedure as presented and I was successful until uploading the ASDM bin file. I’ m experiencing when I tried to access using Firefox 3. 0. 1. The browser is able to contact the PIX however it is not able to download ASDM. …

Comments are closed.