Yes, it’s a shock. And I’ll miss trying to figure out how one speaks that way. Still, he departed before he could decide to do something desperately changey and vote for Obama, so that’s some consolation.
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Buckley has a lot to do with my change from a liberal moonbat to the fine conservative woman I am today. The last few years … yes, I found I didn’t always agree with him, but in his defense, he was old. He lost his wife. He was pretty much retired the last 10 years or so anyway, wasn’t he?
He still gets a life-time achievement award from me.
PBS shill. They loved him cause he seemed so much the archetype of their previous conservative wet dream. The whole aristocratic thing and all. Before they started focusing on godbothering rednecks. He’s dead now.
Yes. Jeffrey Hart is going to be lonely.
Rest in peace, Buckley. A new generation will stand athwart history in your stead.
…shouting, “Get offa my lawn!”
RIP, WFB. I always felt that the epitome of a perfect government/loyal opposition would have been Pat Moynihan and Bill Buckley. I shed a bitter tear.
And then there was Derbyshire.
Beautiful country, Derbyshire. Hillocks. Daffodils. Cairns. Asps.
Oh. And I forgot Greenwald, Mona, Henley, and John Cole.
Personally, I feel I’m standing athwart history yelling OUCH!
Oh sigh. Another beloved TV character from my childhood gone.
Yeah, I was the kid-who-watches-Firing Line kid. You hate that kid. You’re right.
People stopped knowing what I was doing when I’d do my (fucking fantastic) impression of him about fifteen years ago, so I thought (without thinking about it) that he was dead already.
Well, shit.
[obligatory “stand athwart the Pearly Gates shouting martini-making instructions at St. Peter” eulo-joke here]
Is it just some sort of urban legend, or does anyone else remember hearing that Buckley developed that unique accent of his from Spanish and French being his first languages, with no formal instruction in English until he was seven or so? I know he was born in NYC, but it seems like the family moved to Mexico, then later to France and the U.K. during most of his early childhood.
Even conservatives  from members of the John Birch Society to disciples of conservative author Ayn Rand to George Wallace to moderate Republicans  frequently pounced on him.
Only in the Times.
Get back on my foot.
I wonder if the Birchers are pro-union.
I’m pretty sure the Birchers are against the North American union.
NOR LUAP!!!
The philosophy of Dwight Eisenhower with the literary gifts of John Updike. And he passed away at his writing table.
Buckley lives on; long live Buckley.
You know why Fargo was such a great movie? It was because of Margie (she married Norm “Sonofa” Gunderson, as it were).
Margie had a lot of Buckley in her.
RIP
yup, pendragon. Very Euro! and Aristocratic. His dad helped make Mexico what it is today.
Unlike psycho, I watched Firing Line a lot and didn’t become conservative…maybe due to opinions like this: http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2008/02/buckleys_dead_and_consveratism.html
A great many Americans died, including my mom’s only brother, fighting fascism in the forms of Franco, Mussolini and Hitler, and if we’d stopped them in Spain, then maybe just maybe democracy would have prevailed earlier in Europe.
Dan’s given a fair appraisal of Buckley’s obit in the NYT. A lot of bad with the good. Fascinating that Buckley wanted to take the right of voting away from both Blacks and Poor Whites in the 50’s. That’s Conservatism.
Now, off to the wood chipper on a nice bright sunny snow laden day…nice memories, easyliving, but Margie didn’t sleep around.
“A great many Americans died, including my mom’s only brother, fighting fascism in the forms of Franco, Mussolini and Hitler, and if we’d stopped them in Spain, then maybe just maybe democracy would have prevailed earlier in Europe.”
I trust you were in favor of war with Iran in 1979, then, yes? Or a more vigorous prosecution of the Gulf War? Or, at least, the continuance of American aid to South Vietnam following the ’73 Peace Accords?
One thing further: Democracy had already “prevailed” in Europe in the 20’s, and been rejected by a variety of socialists, for socialist reasons. Some of those socialists were nationalist types and joined Franco and the other bad guys. Some of them were internationalist types and took their marching orders from Moscow. But stalwart defenders of democracy in Europe in the 1930’s were few and far between. It was a massive case of “Better Hitler than Blum,” and no amount of doubtless-Bogeyesque lefties gallantly sacrificing themselves in Madrid would have made the slightest difference. Sorry for your uncle, old sport, but that’s the truth of it.
Blum was such a scary guy I am sure*. But all of Europe was in a Depression too and a “united front” was needed but the hard core Right was afraid to share their monopoly of wealth to the countries disadvantage. People here just don’t know how RightWing the Aristocratic Oligarchy is in France. (e.g.* “On 13 February 1936, shortly before becoming Prime Minister, Blum was dragged from a car and almost beaten to death by the Camelots du Roi, a group of anti-Semites and royalists. The right-wing Action Francaise league was dissolved by the government following this incident, not long before the elections that brought Blum to power. [1]) That is how the Right typically operates. In the 1870s, they turned on their own countrymen and invited the Germans in to help slaughter the social democrats and the “Gauche” working class. France’s Right is just as Nazi-like as the German’s were.
Domestically, it was “down with the New Deal and the WPA” and just let a third of Americans starve; that was the attitude then in the 30s as Buckley’s wealth protected him within the confines of elite tutors and prep schools. That’s the Buckley way. Sorry, can’t be gentle into the night. We’re facing a possible new Depression due to the lot of credit b.s. that’s been going on. Even from a Libertarian’s perspective we could be going into some hard times again. I hope not and am not a seer. Progressives tend to be more hopeful than libertarians but their is a consensus about over use of credit on the left and right. Fortunately we do have a more modern view of govt. and economics than the conservative Republican of the 1920s although Reagan reverted to that mindset. And don’t expect the inherited wealthy to help the lot of us. They didn’t in the late 20s and 30s and neither they will in the future. I know too many of them to know how self-important and smug they are …. and that’s the hardcore ‘country club’ Republican who usually has inherited much of his status and income. The one’s who worked them selves up from the bottom tend to be more liberal.
btw: To clarify, my uncle died in the Battle of the Bulge not in Spain..but it was the same enemy more or less. People think that ww2 started at Pearl Harbor, imo it was Spain and maybe Ethiopia. Hitler made no bones about his admiration of Mussolini, who was a former socialist and atheist but renounced both as he saw his power and paycheck coming from the Conservatives: (i.e. extreme nationlists, Fiat, arms manufacturers and other oligarchists, inherited wealthy, carlists, and probably the “Blue Army” militarists of extreme Catholic sensibilities.).
I don’t want to leave this thread w/o tipping my hat to ol’ Ducky. Heard a rerun of a Terry Gross interview in ’98 or ’99 and he sounded great. I’ll miss him.
Think about diabetes prevention as he suffered from it and I can’t see any other reason why he passed away too young.
I don’t expect the inherited wealthy to help the lot of us. I don’t expect anything of them but to obey the law and run just enterprises. I don’t see anything in your “more modern” view of government that I like (Mussolini thought his government was Modern, too). And your statement to the effect that work-up-from-the-bottom types are liberal could use a touch of corroboration, given that the super-rich, from Soros to that chap from Microsoft all seem to be lefty squishes. BTW, getting upset about “inherited wealth” in the 21st century, when the vast majority of millionaires and CEO made their money themselves is a BIT 19th Century.
As to what happened to Blum (and Dreyfus, for that matter) I’ll see you and raise you all the leftoid violence of the last century, from President McKinley’s assassination on down. How anyone can say “the Right typically operates this way” as though the Bolsheviks and Red Guards never happened is beyond me. It isn’t the Right that operates that way, it isn’t even the Left that operates that way. It’s anyone who thinks politics justifies bloodshed that operates that way. Take this argument and ram it home where it belongs. It’s not even a semblance of serious.