That’s right, we said it. AND HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR PATRIOTISM FOR QUESTIONING HIS PATRIOTISM!
From Iraq War vet Pete Hegseth, executive director of Vets for Freedom, writing in the Weekly Standard:
[…] as General David Petraeus provides his Iraq assessment to Congress — the antiwar group MoveOn.org is running a full-page advertisement in the New York Times [today] under the headline: “General Petraeus or General Betray us? Cooking the books for the White House.”
Let’s be clear: MoveOn.org is suggesting that General Petraeus has ‘betrayed’ his country. This is disgusting. To attack as a traitor an American general commanding forces in war because his ‘on the ground’ experience does not align with MoveOn.org’s political objectives is utterly shameful. It shows contempt for America’s military leadership, as well as for the troops who have confidence in him, as our fellow soldiers in Iraq certainly do.
General Petraeus has served this country for over 35 years with honor, distinction, and integrity. And this is not just about General Petraeus. After all, if General Petraeus is “cooking the books,” then the entire military chain of command in Baghdad, and all the staff, military and civilian, who have been working with General Petraeus are complicit, since Petraeus did not write his report in isolation. They are all, apparently, ‘betray[ing] us.’
MoveOn.org has been working closely with the Democratic congressional leadership –as an article in today’s Sunday New York Times Magazine makes clear. And consider this comment by a Democratic senator from Friday’s Politico: “‘No one wants to call [Petraeus] a liar on national TV,’ noted one Democratic senator, who spoke on the condition on anonymity. ‘The expectation is that the outside groups will do this for us.’
Ah. But those long posts I keep writing about orchestrating narratives and ideological complicity? Just so much rightwing conspiracy mongering.
Personally, I don’t know which is more shameful: the craven streak exhibited by Congressional Democrats who rely on the “unified narrative” of their benighted ideological groupies to do their political dirty work for them; or the cynicism they convey simply by knowing that they command a band of buffoons willing to launch such smears, then sitting back and luxuriating in it.
(h/t Darleen)
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update: Just got an email from a guy at Moveon.org who wanted me to remind you that they love the troops.
Traitorous, water-carrying, bloodthirsty killbots that they are.
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update 2: George J. emails:
Jeff — In case you didn’t already know, before she was Jim Webb’s Communication Director and Spokeswoman, Jessica Smith was the Chief Spokeswoman for MoveOn.org. In light of today’s NYT ad, how can Webb get away with keeping her on staff?
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All day, bloggers have been asking if Dems will denounce MoveOn, and the answer is clearly “No” because of incestuous relationships like this. And it’s all the more important because Webb is viewed as a moderate, the most credible anti-war critic and top option for VP. Shouldn’t somebody ask him, what’s more important condoning MoveOn or independence of thought?
i was wondering when they’d start calling him “Betray Us.” that’s too easy a smear for the smallest of minds.
They can do things like this but still claim that they are “oppressed by the Bush Regime.”
We are dealing with children. Children who apparently have half the country agreeing with the content of their tantrums.
> the antiwar group MoveOn.org
They’re not an antiwar group, they’re an anti-Republican group. In fact, they’re a being-anti-Republican-supercedes-any-form-of-patriotism group; heck, being anti-Republican supercedes anything including rational thought and logic group.
I wonder what that’s like? The ability to stare blankly at a never ending ocean of retarded monkeys and with a simply wave of a hand, command them to start flinging poo at whatever target you choose and still be able to say, with a straight face, “Hey, I didn’t fling anything”?
It’s somewhat comforting to know that we’re not imagining this stuff. To see it presented in black and white, in all its full-page glory, is enough to make one’s head spin.
Of course, for as nice as it is to see one’s hypotheses confirmed, the ramifications are dire. It would be a lot nicer to be right about something that wasn’t so awful.
I think I need a distraction. Is there any chance that we’ll get to see what The Narrative is like after it finds the red pills behind the sofa cushions?
I think it was Nietzche who said that if you stare into an ocean of retarded monkeys, the ocean of retarded monkeys will stare back at you.
Lantos just used his time to tell Petreaus and Crocker that he’s not going to believe anything he they say. Thanks for coming though.
It’s not as nice as you’d think. Of course, you have to remember, retarded monkeys have short attention spans and great difficulty following commands in the first place.
Yeah. Isn’t wonderful to live in interesting times?
From the Politico story:
The hell with what she thinks! We paid, and now we want some freakin’ SERVICE! So we’re not her constituents, so what?
I’d lay big money the “activist” from Code Pinko was Medea Benjamin.
Mmmmm… Pie!
Lesser men (such as myself) would have stood up and walked out.
I’ve already called Boxer and Feinstein, and they are apparently running for cover over this one.
I wonder when they’re going to start going after the congressmen who confirmed Petraeus’s rise from Lt. General to General, back in January? I think if Moveon.org is going to slam Petraeus, they should put their money where their mouth is and refuse to support any candidate that confirmed Petraeus. It’s Congress’s fault that he is where he is, after all.
It has been said that civilizations are rarely destroyed from without…they rot from within. And for at least the last 40 or so years the Left has ratcheted up its attempts to destroy America in order to rebuild it in their own image.
MoveOn is just the latest group in that effort. They don’t care about US troops and obviously don’t care about any Iraqi that welcomed the fall of Saddam. MoveOn is anti-American and an American defeat in Iraq, regardless of outcome, is their most important goal.
We now have a good measure of the intellectual and emotional maturity of the left. They are 4th graders age 10 yrs. Spank them and send them to bed early without any supper.
Heh…seems that MoveOn’s frontal attack on Petraeus is even a little too hot for “Iraq is Lost” Reid
of course, Reid’s not saying he disagrees with MoveOn, just that it’s “distracting” and taking the limelight from when he gets to have camera face time to insult and disparage Petraeus.
Question #1 if I were moderator of the next Democratic presidential debate:
“Do you believe that General Petraeus lied to Congress and the American people? Yes or no?”
Jeez, I think I’d better stop reading about this for an hour or three. I am getting so steamed, people might think I am having a stroke over here in my cube…
I am willing to question the patriotism, partisanship and lithium intake status of MoveOn.org.
I am going to, literally, bet my life that things are as being reported by those on the ground and in command, rather than as Tom Lantos and Joe Biden and MoveOn say they are.
“of course, Reid’s not saying he disagrees with MoveOn, just that it’s “distracting†and taking the limelight from when he gets to have camera face time to insult and disparage Petraeus.”
Of course, Darleen. Reid is the same imbecile who declared the surge a failure before the increase of troops was even completed. God, these people are beyond ridicule.
Reid’s just upset that MoveOn is saying in plain English what he wants to say in politico-speak. “Blast it all! Will you clowns please learn to dissemble and obsfucate?”
If Pinch had even a speck of a testicle left, he’d have told those assholes to take their treasonous ad and shove it up George Soros’ most ample traitor ass.
Just despicable.
You can read a very good account of General Petraeus and the 101st Airborne during the invasion of Iraq in Rick Atkinson’s In The Company Of Soldiers. Atkinson is an antiwar journalist with the WaPo, but he is an honest reporter and a very good writer.
In an effort not to be so angry, I offer the following:
#6 (Sean) It has been a while since I read ol’ Fred – and only one work did I actually read in English, so if this is off, blame my German abilities. I believe the exact quote was “should you stare into an ocean of tertiary syphilis suffering monkeys, an ocean of syphilltic simians buys a political advertisement in a major newspaper.”
Again, it has been a while since I read him in the original German. I may be a little bit off.
Major John, I’m afraid you’re right; that’s not what Freddie actually says.
Of course, if you follow the rest of the passage about syphilitic poo-flinging monkeys, it’s a fairly obvious corollary, so you didn’t really misunderstand.
Regards,
Ric
Major John wrote:
That might be a good idea. The only alternative is to keep reading and hope you gain something like pyrokinesis and/or telekinesis and use it to smite the losers. Very unlikely, but you never know…
This just in: Senator Harry Reid’s pants spontaneously combusted today. In related news, Senator Charles Schumer was flung by an unseen force into every wall, ceiling and piece of furniture in the Senate chambers. Film at eleven…
Can anybody, anybody tell me if there has ever been anything like this personal attack upon the honor and integrity of a commanding general in wartime that is anything close to this abomination?
I’m usually the first guy to shush anyone who starts talking in terms if the Crazee lefties and insane progressives but this is just bug eyed, batshit, ripping up the trolley tracks loony.
There, I sald it. And then I weep…
“If Pinch had even a speck of a testicle left, he’d have told those assholes to take their treasonous ad and shove it up George Soros’ most ample traitor ass.”
I guess you don’t read the NYTimes. Pinch loves Soros. Agrees with him on everything.
oh crap…. can someone who might be watching the testimony tell me what happened at about 11 am (PDT)… I was listening to the radio (taking the twins to kindergarten) and heard a report of a bunch of hysterical females being removed from the chambers for shouting/screaming/making asses of themselves.
BTW, does anyone know where St. Amanda is today?
what we are witnessing is the end of the countertrend move in the (larger) trend set in place from the New Deal through the Warren Courts. That is (as said above); the lefts stready destruction of the productive class through marxism and socialism manifest through identity politics.
We had 28 years of right wing revolution beginning in 1979 and carried through the 90s on the foundation laid by a dead man (Reagan) upto and including the Chiperors tax cuts and free market policies. This is all coming to an end. The war, the sub-prime mess is all blending into a perfect storm for the left and 2008 is theirs to lose.
What the left will bnever understand is that you can never make a dynamic economy by taking away incentove from the productive class. For all their knee-jerky totalitarian insticts, even the chinese understand this and thus are more capitalistic than us. They should reap the rewards.
Only a miracle can save us (the west) now.
Darleen: That was the Code Pink loonies who, despite being admonished by Elkton, continued to disrupt Patraeus’ testimony until, finally, the Dem committee chair grew a set and had them tossed out. They were chanting something like “General Petraeus, the country doesn’t believe you anymore.”
Fraggin’ wackjobs.
Twas Saint Cindy, beleive it or not…
“Sheehan was the face of the anti-war movement before saying in May of this year that she would “retire†from the cause. Shortly thereafter, she announced that she would seek the congressional seat of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).”
Somebody needs to explain to the poor dear that she has to get elected first, then she can have her seat.
I don’t quite understand why they left anyone with a pink tiara on in the hall after the first couple outbreaks. Skelton instructed security to escort the whole group out. or is there some new fashion trend I’m missing?
Saint Cindy of the Perpetual Saggy Boobs
update: Just got an email from a guy at Moveon.org who wanted me to remind you that they love the troops.
Yes right. What bullshit.
Well, after Lantos told Crocker and Petraeus that nothing positive they might say would be believed code pink should be hosting a frozen yogurt buffet for him.
Support the Base!!!
BJ, I think you’d have to go back to the Civil War and the attacks on Grant and McCellen.
Techie:
Oh, great! Let’s go back to the rabid yellow journalism of the Civil War. That’ll help!
BJ
Calling C***Pink “wackjobs” is an insult to honest wackjobs everywhere.
I believe Keith Slobbermann has even them beat on the way to the bottom with hysterical hyperbole* heh.
BJTexs asked,
“Can anybody, anybody tell me if there has ever been anything like this personal attack upon the honor and integrity of a commanding general in wartime that is anything close to this abomination?”
Yes — Gen U.S. Grant was treated the same way by the Copperheads (drunkard ring a bell), because they thought he might win the war and they couldn’t allow President Lincoln to hang his hat on a victory.
This is nothing less than Frankenstein’s monster turning on its creator. The Democrats have cultivated and courted this lunatic gaggle, now it has broken free of its restraints and is running wild.
“update: Just got an email from a guy at Moveon.org who wanted me to remind you that they love the troops.”
OK. Give ’em my @us.army.mil address and have ‘im send me a little note.
Whoda thunk that calling elected officials “poo-flinging monkeys” could be a subtle understatement?
Look at it this way, either the Dems are digging their own political graves, or the kids of South Park grotesquely under-estimated the percentage of developmentally disabled people in the general population.
Cranky-d kind of nailed it, however – we live in a rare time and place where you can become an adult without even trying to grow up.
No trolls yet?
Those free thinkers must still be occupied waiting for the approved and focus tested set of talking points…
Heh – from my mouth to Fred’s ears. Although Fred’s idea is better. Between returning moveon donations and Chinese laundry money, there’s going to be no Democratic money yet.
Oh, yeah. I bet they crawl out of the woodwork like roaches sometime this afternoon.
Didn’t someone in MoveOn claim that they owned the Democrats? I guess he wasn’t lying.
I would guess that no one in the Democrat spin machine has yet stumbled upon the obvious talking point, which is to say “I condemn the Swift-boating of Gen. Petraeus in the strongest terms possible.” John McCain took a stab at it this morning on NPR, but no one seems to have run with it. Because Democrats, the poor dears, just love to lose.
I guess it took winning in 2006 to remind them of that. Rove, you magnificent bastard!
Well they technically won, but they haven’t been able to exercise their will in any meaningful way, so what have they really gained? I guess you could say they’ve stopped the bleeding, but calling it “winning” still seems a little inappropriate. Like another conflict I could name.
A reminder of how much easier life is when they don’t actually have to do anything or make any difficult decisions?
Democrats: The Slacker Party.™
McGehee – I heard a similar argument pushed by timmah the other day. He actually argued that the Dems do not control Congress, and it is dishonest to even assert that absent a filibuster-proof majority. Odd, that.
JD, yeah — but anything the Republicans did between 2002 and 2006 was at will and utterly free of interference from the Democrats, am I right?