September 6, 2007
Hey, Jeff! [Dan Collins]

What does the Editor & Publisher review of “Until Proven Innocent” say?

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  1. Comment by SteveMG on 9/6 @ 6:40 pm #

    Greg Mitchell reviewed it and said, “The press must do everything they can to stop Bush and the neocons from continuing the war in Iraq and also from attacking Iran.”

    Not sure how that relates to the subject matter in the book; but then again, it is Mitchell talking.

  2. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/6 @ 7:34 pm #

    Did they run one, Dan? I couldn’t find it. Of course I’m not a subscriber, and I rarely visit the site so I don’t really know where to look.

    Point me at it and I’ll give it a whirl. I don’t speak Leftish, but I can generally puzzle it out with a bit of difficulty.

    Regards,
    Ric

  3. Comment by Diana on 9/6 @ 7:44 pm #

    Dan … aren’t you supposed to be in the pub?

  4. Comment by cynn on 9/6 @ 8:22 pm #

    Cagey — looks like an attack on Iran is imminent. Congrats, guys; it’s the end of the world as you know it.

  5. Comment by cynn on 9/6 @ 8:26 pm #

    on the other hand, people tend to get trigger-happy this time of year, so it’s best to sit and wait.

  6. Comment by happyfeet on 9/6 @ 8:51 pm #

    No place for hidin’ baby
    No place to run
    You pull the trigger of my
    Love gun

  7. Comment by Drumwaster on 9/6 @ 9:10 pm #

    Cagey — looks like an attack on Iran is imminent.

    ‘Bout fucking time, too.

    In case you missed it, you moron, we have been in a State of War with Iran since November 4, 1979, when they attacked our embassy and captured our citizens, and held them right up until a Republican took office.

    There was a shooting phase of this ongoing war during the early 80’s, when we decimated their Navy.

    They have been sending troops and equipment to kill our troops for the past few years, despite claiming to be neutral. We have actually caught them doing so.

    So your faux concern would be yet another display of your utter ignorance of the facts. One would think that you would have caught on that we are not laughing with you, but at you.

    NTTAWWT

  8. Comment by psychologizer on 9/6 @ 9:30 pm #

    I haven’t seen it either, but I’m sure the E&P review says that the difference between internet and print coverage of the case was one of several textbook play-outs of Hayek’s thesis of competition-as-discovery, because E&P is nothing if not a fearless weekly examination of the journalistic self.

    And there’s probably some Kiss lyrics and bomb-Iran shit in there, too.

  9. Comment by McGehee on 9/6 @ 9:58 pm #

    looks like an attack on Iran is imminent.

    Cynn, you have to stop listening to the pink elephants.

  10. Comment by Jeff G. on 9/6 @ 11:16 pm #

    Haven’t seen it, Dan.

  11. Comment by mojo on 9/7 @ 12:17 am #

    Hey, looks like Normie Hsu turned up, on a train headed to Denver.

    Got sick, it seems. Bulgarians, no doubt.

  12. Comment by Sean M. on 9/7 @ 1:30 am #

    Read the reviews on the Amazon page for the book and try not to piss yourself while laughing about what the ACLU’s president has to say about it.

    Why, I’m sure she was right behind the defendants from the start!

  13. Comment by The Thin Man on 9/7 @ 4:15 am #

    We need to clean out our academic stables, ’cause the stench of the horsesh*t wafting in from there is just too much.

    “House Unamerican Activities II – Identity and Gender Politics”
    Starring George Clooney as Mike Nifong, Whoopi Goldeberg as Wahneema Lubiano, Sean Penn as Richard Brodhead and Jane Fonda as the Ghost of Feminists Past

  14. Comment by Dan Collins on 9/7 @ 4:43 am #

    Sorry, Ric. It appears there is no E&P review of the book.

  15. Comment by Ardsgaine on 9/7 @ 4:53 am #

    Cagey — looks like an attack on Iran is imminent.

    Don’t tease me unless you mean it.

  16. Comment by Major John on 9/7 @ 6:08 am #

    “Cagey — looks like an attack on Iran is imminent.”

    Huh? I would say “nope”, but I am sure cynn’s intel is better than any dumb field grade like me would get…

  17. Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/7 @ 6:16 am #

    Odds are cynn’s basing her assessment on the nutroots rumor mill. Maybe even on the anonymous reports on Kos.

    If not, well, sure would be nice if she showed her sources.

  18. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/7 @ 7:10 am #

    Cynn really isn’t all that mysterious. Mojo’s comment (#11) is the Clew here.

    The money not only went to Democrats, it went to Clintons. Look forward to the Press and the Left frantically reacting like a cat that’s shit on the rug, looking for anything, anything at all, that might cover up or distract from the Hsu story and shrieking hysterically any time they find a scrap. Look! Over there! Attack on Iran! Hurricane coming! Dog bites man child! We have to cover that story, because it’s neeeeeeeeewsworthy! Send Katie! Send Geraldo! (Hsu? H’u he?)

    Regards,
    Ric

  19. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 7:23 am #

    Well, cynn’s probably been reading our friend Larry Johnson, who says:

    Why the hubbub over a B-52 taking off from a B-52 base in Minot, North Dakota and subsequently landing at a B-52 base in Barksdale, Louisiana? That’s like getting excited if you see a postal worker in uniform walking out of a post office. And how does someone watching a B-52 land identify the cruise missiles as nukes? It just does not make sense.

    So I called a old friend and retired B-52 pilot and asked him. What he told me offers one compelling case of circumstantial evidence. My buddy, let’s call him Jack D. Ripper, reminded me that the only times you put weapons on a plane is when they are on alert or if you are tasked to move the weapons to a specific site.

    Then he told me something I had not heard before.

    Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping off point for Middle East operations. Gee, why would we want cruise missile nukes at Barksdale Air Force Base. Can’t imagine we would need to use them in Iraq. Why would we want to preposition nuclear weapons at a base conducting Middle East operations?
    His final point was to observe that someone on the inside obviously leaked the info that the planes were carrying nukes. A B-52 landing at Barksdale is a non-event. A B-52 landing with nukes. That is something else.

    Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.

    I mean, fucking genius!

    After all, who could possibly think that just because the 2nd Bomb Wing is centered at Barksdale, and the 5th centered at Minot, that there just might be storage of nuclear weapons at both places? There is, too; close to a thousand in both places.

    Larry Johnson, I add for the n++th time, is an idiot. Nuclear weapons, if flown out of Barksdale for Iran, wouldn’t be flown in from Minot, they’d be taken out of inventory at Barksdale. And, I’m guessing, they wouldn’t be affixed to weapons stations at Barksdale or Minot, they’d be affixed at some staging point like Diego Garcia or some airbase in Europe.

    Have I mentioned that Larry Johnson is an idiot?

    n++;

  20. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 7:24 am #

    Somehow my link to Super Larry got eaten, so here it is in all of its non-htmlish glory:

    http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2007/sep/05/staging_nuke_for_iran

  21. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 7:29 am #

    The above, of course, completely ignores Larry’s idiocy in other, related matters within the same article. Like: the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. Marvel at the shiny, multifaceted idiocy just in that one statement.

  22. Comment by Alice H on 9/7 @ 7:32 am #

    See? I’m telling you, the aliens are dropping all the missing people back in Colorado. Fossett’ll turn up here next, just you watch.

    On a surprisingly on-topic side note, today is Mike Nifong’s one day in jail.

  23. Comment by McGehee on 9/7 @ 9:00 am #

    Well, cynn’s probably been reading our friend Larry Johnson

    Okay, then Larry needs to quit listening to the pink elephants.

  24. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 9:04 am #

    Larry’s made a whole second career of listening to the pink elephants. Second, after his brief stint at the CIA, I mean.

  25. Comment by Karl on 9/7 @ 9:09 am #

    As you never know who knows LJ’s backstory, it’s always good to specifically remind people that the reason people think Larry Johnson is an idiot begins with his July 10, 2001 NYT op-ed, “The Declining Terrorist Threat,” which specifically disclaimed the threat of Islamist terrorism to the US.

  26. Comment by JD on 9/7 @ 9:16 am #

    Karl – The reason people think that Larry Johnson is an idiot is because he is, in fact, an idiot.

    I hope he threatens me.

  27. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 9:25 am #

    I blame the pink elephants for that op-ed, Karl.

  28. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 9:26 am #

    Actually, the pink elephants ghost-wrote that op-ed.

  29. Comment by JD on 9/7 @ 9:43 am #

    Maybe it was one of Gleeeen’s sock-puppets, Thomas Ellers, perhaps.

  30. Comment by BJTexs on 9/7 @ 9:49 am #

    It was me, sockpuppeting JD.

    Or was it…

  31. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/7 @ 10:04 am #

    <fx: heavy sigh>

    I despair.

    The Press, the Democrats, and the Left [pretending, for the moment, that they are distinct groups] will do anything, anything at all, to avoid investigating, or tolerating the discussion of, the most important political question of this year: Where the Hell did Norman Hsu’s money come from? Even as we speak, there are teams of journalists and DNC staffers assembled in basements with candles and pentacles, imploring everybody from Baron Samedhi to Nyrlahotep for a Cat 5 hurricane and simultaneous tsunami, with landfall at approximately the Fontainebleu at Miami Beach. Hsu? Aw, shoo. Hillary’ll have that little problem cleared up by the weekend… one way or another.

    And you guys are falling for it. Look! Over yonder! Nukular weppons! The horror! The horror! And off you go, yakking about Larry Johnson as if he was worth a fart in a nor’easter.

    Regards,
    Ric

  32. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/7 @ 10:11 am #

    Actually, Ric, I was yakking about him as if he weren’t worth a fart in a nor’easter.

    But, to the yakking charge, I plead gilty.

  33. Comment by cynn on 9/7 @ 8:38 pm #

    OK, we’ll see. What say you, big general dude>?

  34. Comment by cynn on 9/7 @ 9:05 pm #

    ric: I don’t give a damn where hillary’s bux came from. I want to knlw how the right-wing brain trust will bail us out of this pink elephant misery. Be very afraid when certain of us finally wake up.

  35. Comment by Slartibartfast on 9/8 @ 11:26 am #

    Ah, but there was a great deal of interest where Abramoff’s clients’ “bux” came from.

    Interesting, that.

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