Enforcing illegal immigration laws = enforcing runaway slave laws, according to Latino Movement USA’s Juan Jose Gutierrez (not surprisingly, a hard-core Marxist).
Which, I guess the quickest way to pawn yourself off as the Latino Frederick Douglass is to set up the rhetorical conditions for your own reluctant self-importance, profess outrage on behalf of “your” people, then let a fawning press sympathetic to the strained historical analogies pushed by grievance groups take care of the rest.
— Athough, come to think on it, simply being Hispanic and changing your name to “Frederick Douglass” would work just as well — albeit the groupie situation wouldn’t be nearly so plum, I don’t imagine.
Unless you add a beret or something.
(h/t Eric A.)
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update: While we’re on the subject…
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update 2: Allah asks, “Is Elvira Arellano more like Harriet Tubman or Rosa Parks?”
To which I’d answer there’s really no contest. She’s more like Rosa Parks, only the crackers on her bus were made from the body of Christ, not stuffed with white bread, canned beer, and Alabama-style hate.
Still, the similarities are striking.
“Enforcing illegal immigration laws = enforcing runaway slave laws”
Doesn’t this mean that Mexico is now a slave state.
“Planning continued for a major demonstration Sept. 12 on the Mall in Washington to highlight the plight of illegal immigrants, Lozano said. Calling it “A Day Without (Illegal) Immigrants,” Lozano said the protest would revolve around a national boycott in which (illegal) immigrants would be called on to stay away from their jobs and classrooms and refrain from making any purchases.”
There. Fixed that for ’em. Probably not their fault, ESL and all that.
“Enforcing illegal immigration laws = enforcing runaway slave laws”
Wow – that’s about as wrong as one can get in attempting to construct an analogy.
Perhaps Mr. Gutierrez should be given some sort of prize for squeezing that one out?
So I guess all the latinos who played by the rules and came here legally, like my wife, mother, aunt, and grandmother, are just Uncle Toms then? What makes this guy think he is above the law?
I actually think that a case could be made for the policy we have towards Cubans escaping Cuba is close to the Fugitive Slave laws. But Mexicans leaving Mexico for here?, not at all.
An absolutely moronic thing to say. I can’t even think of any missing context that that asshole could say was missing from that quote. Some of the commenters in UBM’s thread were pretty funny, too. When does it all end? I think all single cell creatures, the world over, are owed reparations or land grants of some sort.
Let’s not forget the plight of anaerobic bacteria 3 billion years ago, OI…
It’s insane, but not perfectly so.
Mexico, like pretty much everywhere outside the U.S., is about as “structurally,” if not legally, racist as the early-1900s U.S. was. There’s a hell of a lot of “white” Mexicans, but we don’t get those up here, because they don’t have any reason to dive the Rio.
If leftists allowed themselves to call any nation but the U.S. and Israel racist (well, the ones in the U.K. can say the U.K. is racist, but Americans have to say it’s not), they could make a good case for the “black” Mexicans we get up here being freedom-seeking refugees. But they just can’t.
So…this crap.
I don’t get it at all.
This seems to more of a bid to radicalize illegal immigrants, in fact or in perception, than an instance of an Argument from Intimidation like what Ardsgaine was talking about, however much it feels like that. I guess it could be both, but this seems a counterproductive stance to take if your goal is to get society to adapt a more welcoming stance towards illegal immigrants.
BTW: Does this mean I can stop, y’know, paying my gardener and just flog the lazy bastard occasionally?
So why don’t they just keep on moving until they’re up in Canada?
And, yeah, he just called Mexico a slave state. Anyone want to bet the Mexican government ignores it?
Now, let’s see what happens if Tancredo said the same thing…
I mean, I like our illegal immigrant friends, but I like them less after Juan Jose goes there with the modern-day slaves business. It makes me start thinking maybe this is all sort of getting out of hand. Like the guys at the In ‘n Out is going to go all Nat Turner at any moment. Juan Jose may not like the status quo, but that’s a step backwards if you ask me.
I was assuming the analogy was to people running away from Mexico but the quote seems to be comparing illegal workers here to slaves, which would mean he wasn’t talking about people running away from Mexico at all.
I’m very confused.
Fools. You’re not supposed to interpret his meaning based on the denotation of the words that he uses. You’re supposed to tune in to the connotation of the term “slaves.”
Like this.
Then you can accuse your opponents of being guilty of the denotation.
Economical, see? And it produces no more CO2 than telling the truth.
Jeez, why didn’t she just crank out an anchor baby like everyone else…Or is she one of those “feminist illegal immigrants” cause we gotta keep those chicks out. I mean, they lez up the feminists that american feminist won’t lez.
“Is Elvira Arellano more like Harriet Tubman or Rosa Parks?â€Â
She claims to be railroaded so maybe Harriet Tubman. But with so many illegals in this country maybe Rosa Parks because some busing to Mexico is needed to achieve diversity.
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I’m thinkin’ more like Lucile Ball. Elvira! Jou got som splainin to do! What the hell did she think would happen?
Hmmm. Tubman or Parks? Elvira is standing up for her right to…what, live in whatever country she wants and to disobey any of its laws, if it makes her happy? I’m glad Parks is not alive today to see her name invoked in such a false fashion.
Actually, this “movement” seems to be the end game of protest itself. All the rhetoric, the emotionalism, the signs and signifiers are all there, only meaning is absent, completely. It is a Grand March for the sake of the Grand March.
“Is Elvira Arellano more like Harriet Tubman or Rosa Parks?â€Â
Hows come she is not in that beacon of progress: CUBA!
So they are like slaves? They voluntarily ran from Mexico to enjoy slavery in the United Staes of America?
(1) Just how bad is Mexico anyway that a Mexican would rather be a slave here; and (2) Does that mean we’re supposed to think Mexico is a North American Sudan and the illegals are Darfurians?
I ask that because my self-proclaimed moral betters say the USA is supposed to fix Darfur, and I wonder if that means we’re supposed to invade Mexico and fix their lousy Spanish-inherited social system and governmental problems. Or does that mean Spain is supposed to intervene and fix the problems they created in fifteen-oh-something?
I’m so confused.
Of course, if you’re a Guatemalan or Salvadoran immigrant; you face the hard edge of the Mexican Army bayonet. Hypocrisy is the vice of the Mexican ruling class; they sheltered the Castro brothers after the attack on the Moncada Barrack; where Raul hung out with the KGB’s Leonov; than sent him on his way back to Cuba in 1956. They did the same with the Salvadoran and Guatemalan guerillas; however for Mexicans who pull this trick;hell even uppity students they get the round of buckshot.(re battle of Tlatelolco). A generation later; a pen pal of Global Exchange & Code Pink; Sub Commander Marcos; another pampered prince playing Che Guevara, pulled off the same trick; and his followers didn’t fare so well. Not to mention; when there have been instances of Cuban nationals trying to seek
asylum in their embassy; they have not been reluctant to send them back.
Lozano said the protest would revolve around a national boycott in which (illegal) immigrants would be called on to stay away from their jobs and classrooms and refrain from making any purchases.â€Â
They did this in 2006. No one missed them.
“Is Elvira Arellano more like Harriet Tubman or Rosa Parks?â€Â
Hey, I’m from Alabama and I was usually stuffed with ribs, not hate. But then what do I know. I wasn’t raised where the biggest export was human capital.
I’m wearing my way-off-topic baseball cap, so here you: If Elvira Arellno was your after hours office cleaning lady, would you Castanza her?
I, umm, yeah, why not. She haw a wild Zapotec look about her and the steady sway in her gait speaks of years carrying large objects on her head, besides I’m a little tired of the White Mountain Apache women I’ve been mounting of late.