March 13, 2016

#TrumpRally observations [Darleen Click]

Huckabee was never on my radar for President, but I have to say, he really can nail an issue to the wall in interesting ways:

Posted by Darleen @ 12:35pm
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  1. Hucktrollio.

  2. Just gonna leave this right here.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    March 7 at 4:45am ·
    The *establishment* composed of journos, BS-Vending talking heads with well-formulated verbs, bureaucrato-cronies, lobbyists-in training, New Yorker-reading semi-intellectuals, image-conscious empty suits, Washington rent-seekers and other “well thinking” members of the vocal elites are not getting the point about what is happening and the sterility of their arguments. People are not voting for Trump (or Sanders). People are just voting, finally, to destroy the establishment.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-12/nassim-taleb-sums-americas-election-17-black-swan-words

  3. serr8d – I think that’s it. My husband never votes, prefers to bury his head in the stock market and ignores politics. for 30 years this worked for him. I only recently quit the news in the last few years because I finally realized- the establishment just keeps themselves in power.
    this is the first election where my husband is talking about voting. And it’s not because we think Trump is an awesome guy, we don’t worship him like the idiots who voted for Barack.
    this is about destruction.

  4. Anger is fuel for an emotional engine that can destroy or build. The choice is whether to destroy with Trump, or build with Cruz.

    I respect builders, not destroyers.

  5. we find Cruz to be preachy and not inspiring confidence. Plus he is backed by the same people that gave us McCain and Romney. This does not feel like building anything – it’s just more of the same. ? I did sit out the last election and I don’t regret it. Hopefully the last 4 years of total shit from Obama will stop Hillary’s comeback.
    I think dh was sold on Trump’s idea about FSA accounts. I don’t think Trump’s a genius (understatement)
    and I’m from the midwest where I watched unions destroy a lot of business, so this catering to the union workers kinda sucks.

    not really sure what we will end up doing.

  6. and maybe someone will correct me here because I am not old enough to remember the 70s. But wasn’t Carter an idiot and people were waiting in line for gas rationing (something along those lines?)
    and then some *actor* got elected in a landslide?
    I can’t say I have that much hope for Trump, but still. I don’t think this is unprecedented .

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  8. [i]and then some *actor* got elected in a landslide?[/i]

    Between acting and the Presidency, he was also a union boss, a developer, a Republican Party Chairman, and Governor of the largest state.

    That said, I understand the Trump movement. Votes for Trump–and votes for Ted Cruz–were and are smacks at the GOP Globalist Establishment, who tried to foist first Jeb and then Marco upon us.

    But it does sadden me terribly to see Trump and Cruz tear at each other. Yes, I know only one can be President…..

  9. Between acting and the Presidency, he was also a union boss, a developer, a Republican Party Chairman, and Governor of the largest state.

    ok well then. there’s that.
    but… union boss too? I guess that was before unions sat around collecting $100k paychecks for doing nothing. ( I say this because I witnessed it: tool and die maker in the delphi plant used to show me his paycheck proudly bc he didn’t do much)

    “hope and change” is permanently dead to me, at least coming from politicians. Thank goodness they’re not our messiah. Maybe that’s why I’m not terrified of seeing Trump stomping on the establishment like a deranged hippo – it’s a cheerful thought.

  10. but… union boss too? I guess that was before unions sat around collecting $100k paychecks for doing nothing. ( I say this because I witnessed it: tool and die maker in the delphi plant used to show me his paycheck proudly bc he didn’t do much)

    Well, a Hollywood union (the Screen Actors Guild) but a union nonetheless. Apparently, his seeing Communist infiltration in said union turned him rightward.

  11. copy pasta of my comments left over at Bob’s Place (forgive the lack of desktop – style formatting; this is a teeny Smartphone)..

    I’m not hesitant to admit my support for Donald Trump. Why, you ask?

    Because DT is not a politician. Because DT has never held elective office. Because DT, like me, is a businessman, well-versed and preferring life outside the corrupt confines of Washington DC, where even good people go to lose their souls.

    What Mr. Trump is doing is exposing with glee the crony corruption of the Ruling Class, UniParty system that’s hijacked everything good about the political process of this Republic; not that there’s been much of anything good about it of late.

    Please read, if you haven’t, already Dr. Angelo Codevilla’s “The Ruling Class”. While it does seem Mr. Trump to be as acidic as, say, Barack Obama, he has a lifetime of business successes to draw from.

    Don’t compare Donald Trump to Ted Cruz. Cruz never had a chance to get the nomination; if not for Trump ‘breaking the ice’, we’d be staring at Jeb Bush as nominee already, and the Ruling Class settling down for another meaningless ‘race’ in November.

    Donald Trump has stirred this nation more than Ted Cruz could ever have done; Ted lacks the charismatic capacity to stir more than a small handful of dedicated voters. If that’s untrue, then why didn’t he, why can’t he, draw many supporters until after Donald Trump cleared out the deadwood?

    I see Donald Trump as the only 4500-ton icebreaker in the GOP field, driving against Establishment Ice that’s held captive the nomination process for decades now. And even with so many supportive voters behind him, he’s struggling mightily.

    Ted Cruz? Not even an icebreaker. He would be stuck fast, immobile; if not for The Donald having crashed the party and broken up the ice, he’d not have budged in the process.

    Of course, that’s speculation. But as it stands today, Cruz is puttering about only because he’s had the ice broken by Donald Trump.

    We should credit DT with Jeb’s scalp (figurative speaking, of course), at the very least.


    So. Perhaps DT is a “bad tool”, a non-perfect “Covservative” (whatever that means anymore). He is the Tool we have, and by gosh we must use him.

    The lineup of establishment forces against him (including George Soros) should be telling.

    heh. Cruz and Soros on the same team. Who would’ve thunk it?

  12. I get it but I am afraid that because Trump is such a blowhard people will vote for Hillary :(

    It’s one thing to overthrow the overlords, it’s another to attempt a coup and then be stuck with a French economy forever. this is why I am still nervously on the fence. (I’m in SC.. I didn’t vote in the primaries.. I wonder if my vote would matter anyway)

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  14. Takes courage to “come out” as a Trump supporter. When you do, everyone not a Trump supporter will heap abuse on you.

    I think it’s plain, IMHO, Trump has the best shot at winning the general, for the reasons Serr8d outlined. HOWEVER, what has also become plain is he will not only be going against the Democrat in the general, but the GOPe also. They have made it clear they would rather lose to Hillary than win with Trump. Then they will blame Trump and his voters to keep any future thoughts of fighting the establishment a non-starter.

    It’s where we are now, which is why I think a Trump victory in Novemmber is our last and only chance to rescue this sick and dying country. Lose, and America will just become another globalist appendage no different than any other western nation, which incidentally, themselves are about to become indistinguishable from any other given shithole in the world.

    The really sobering thought is even if Trump wins,and to a lesser extent Cruz who is in the same boat but with a less likely chance to win, the GOPe will fight him harder than they have Obama, especially on controlling the boarder and negotiating better trade deals. Is why I remain mostly pessimistic regardless who wins, Reagan with the mandate of a landslide election couldn’t even cut the DepEd 35 years ago, now they have their own SWAT team, and the prospect is infinitely harder. Public unions and lobbyists have more power to influence policy than a president without the full support of his party, and no one outside the ruling elite will have that.

    In short, we average patriotic Americans are in quite the picks.

  15. Pickle

  16. Trump is the establishment’s Black Swan event. There’s not a pundit alive who could’ve predicted this scenario whilst sober…

    You can only agree or disagree with Trump in a general sense, because there are no real specifics or track record to assess. Slogans and broad pronouncements don’t change how a country is governed. That is beneficial for his candidacy, as emotion and the mood of the country are driving his support. He has capitalized on the anger, disillusionment, and cynicism of the public to propel a campaign that can’t be stopped by the establishment. The linear thinkers in the establishment are dumbfounded by this staggering turn of events. Their protected, isolated, posh lives are being turned upside down. Trump is the large deviation black swan ruining their bell curve lives.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-14/voting-destroy-establishment

    I’ve got a bad feeling about this. My mind keeps going back to summer 1968, Sirhan Sirhan ends RFK’S inevitably. Not a conspiracy theorist, but if something happens to Trump, the short list of masterminds prolly attended that AEI shindig last week.

  17. >{8}Ideology is a specious way of relating to the world. It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them. As the repository of something suprapersonal and objective, it enables people to deceive their conscience and conceal their true position and their inglorious modus vivendi, both from the world and from themselves. It is a very pragmatic but, at the same time, an apparently dignified way of legitimizing what is above, below, and on either side. It is directed toward people and toward God. It is a veil behind which human beings can hide their own fallen existence, their trivialization, and their adaptation to the status quo. It is an excuse that everyone can use, from the greengrocer, who conceals his fear of losing his job behind an alleged interest in the unification of the workers of the world, to the highest functionary, whose interest in staying in power can be cloaked in phrases about service to the working class. The primary excusatory function of ideology, therefore, is to provide people, both as victims and pillars of the post-totalitarian system, with the illusion that the system is in harmony with the human order and the order of the universe. . . .

    {9}The post-totalitarian system touches people at every step, but it does so with its ideological gloves on. This is why life in the system is so thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government; the working class is enslaved in the name of the working class; the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his ultimate liberation; depriving people of information is called making it available; the use of power to manipulate is called the public control of power, and the arbitrary abuse of power is called observing the legal code; the repression of culture is called its development; the expansion of imperial influence is presented as support for the oppressed; the lack of free expression becomes the highest form of freedom; farcical elections become the highest form of democracy; banning independent thought becomes the most scientific of world views; military occupation becomes fraternal assistance. Because the regime is captive to its own lies, it must falsify everything. It falsifies the past. It falsifies the present, and it falsifies the future. It falsifies statistics. It pretends not to possess an omnipotent and unprincipled police apparatus. It pretends to respect human rights. It pretends to persecute no one. It pretends to fear nothing. It pretends to pretend nothing.

    {10}Individuals need not believe all these mystifications, but they must behave as though they did, or they must at least tolerate them in silence, or get along well with those who work with them. For this reason, however, they must live within a lie. They need not accept the lie. It is enough for them to have accepted their life with it and in it. For by this very fact, individuals confirm the system, fulfill the system, make the system, are the system. <

    havel

  18. “Plus [Cruz] is backed by the same people that gave us McCain and Romney.”

    Links, please.

  19. Links

    That ain’t how identity politics is done guins. Never has been.

  20. links — sorry I was assuming that Cruz was another Romney just because it appeared the GOP were supporting Cruz (from what we saw)- as I said at the outset, me and dh are just now tuning into this carnival and that was our impression after that horrible debate and a few interviews we watched. Combined with Cruz’s irritating style, and the fact that we couldn’t bear to listen to any of his stump speeches all the way through, we figured he was being pushed from behind. I didn’t realize Marco and Jeb were the actual annointed ones until this thread.

    This week we’ve been discussing what will happen to the stock market if Hillary wins, and if this means we are moving to Latin America so that dh can retire before he dies from stress. yay.

  21. If the Establishment wanted Cruz, Rubio and Kasich would have been out before Super Tuesday.

    They’re not trying to figure out how to wrest the nomination away from Trump at the convention because they’re fans of Cruz.

  22. >Combined with Cruz’s irritating style, <

    fu news

    Ted Cruz urged to apologize for attacks against Mitch McConnell

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/15/politics/ted-cruz-mitch-mcconnell-super-tuesday/index.html

  23. If Cruz is smart, he’ll demand Mitch McConnell apologize to him.

    And if the GOPe is really as afraid of Trump as they appear to be, McConnell would be smart to do it.

  24. wasn’t Carter an idiot and people were waiting in line for gas rationing (something along those lines?)
    and then some *actor* got elected in a landslide?

    That “actor” was also a two-term governor who came a damn sight closer to taking the nomination away from the sitting President of his party than Teddy Kennedy ever did.

    Reagan’s also the guy who used to joke about how the Democrats were like the dead husband of the eighty year old virgin widow –all he ever did was stroke her thigh and tell her how good it was going to be.

    That remind you of anyone?

  25. It does remind me of someone.

    The modern Republican party.

  26. A little humor.

    Either Mike Huckabee decided at that point in his campaign that “there’s no such thing as bad press”, or he’s a really good sport, but he elected to have “Triumph”, the Insult Comic Dog, mentor and coach him in Iowa.

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